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"Personally, I think Griffey's done," one scout said emphatically.

"Griffey can be pitched to. And it's going to be fun to watch him play centerfield. I don't think he can. But we're going to find out."

But besides what the former Seattle and Cincinnati star can do or can't do offensively, there is question, frankly, about how hard Griffey wants to compete.

"The wild card in this," said one scout, "is the combination of diminished ability and the fact that he doesn't play. Both are issues.

"Now, if he goes out and busts his butt ... it's different. It may happen for a week or two weeks or three weeks, but at one point in time he's going to get comfortable and go back into being a one-gait player.

"The White Sox may sit him down and say, 'We're not going to prejudge anything or what you've done in the past. But here's why we got you and what we expect from you and we're not going to treat you any differently than anybody else."'

But the scout said that if Griffey, who batted .245 for the Reds, didn't, for instance, run hard to first base to beat out a potential double-play grounder, "the White Sox will get the same thing the Reds had." The second scout also wondered how Griffey, once among the game's greatest defensive center fielders, would play the position now.

"You know he's not going to play left field or right field," the scout said. "And where's (Nick) Swisher going to play? Or if Swisher goes to first base, how about (Paul) Konerko? Somebody's not going to play."

The third scout said, "The one who's going to help the least (of the three) is Griffey because he has deteriorating skills. ... Moving to center field from right field is going to put a lot more pressure on him."

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Wow

“somebody’s not going to play”

“switching to cf is going to put tremendous pressure on him”

”....(griffey) has deteriorating skills”

“personally, I think Griffey’s done”

great insight here.

by madvillian on Aug 4, 2008 12:36 PM CDT reply actions  

Scouts are the window to baseball intellect.

shaftr, the ghost author. cheat, the never-present manager. colin, the obfuscating author. wiz…well. who the fuck knows. at least he shows up to work.

by winningugly on Aug 4, 2008 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

you didn't find the assertion that he was dogging it "insightful"?

i guess you know everything, huh. please share such information with the rest of us in the future, oh great one.

by larry on Aug 4, 2008 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

I might "dog" it for a last-placed team if I were hurting, or bored,

or playing out the string. I’d bet he wasn’t overly motivated.

And it is one guy’s opinion. With his hamstrings I wouldn’t tear down the line, either. He’s effin’ old. He was probably looking for a urinal on the way to first.

shaftr, the ghost author. cheat, the never-present manager. colin, the obfuscating author. wiz…well. who the fuck knows. at least he shows up to work.

by winningugly on Aug 4, 2008 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Being 38 years old might not be "dogging it"...

It could just be declining skills.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Aug 4, 2008 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think it's racism, I tell you.

Thome: 38, Peoria farm boy, white, no Dog. Skilz.
Griffey: 38, Pennsylvania Rust Belt, black, Dog. Declining skilz.

You can’t make this up. This is why 83% of African Americans support Obama.

shaftr, the ghost author. cheat, the never-present manager. colin, the obfuscating author. wiz…well. who the fuck knows. at least he shows up to work.

by winningugly on Aug 4, 2008 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pretty darn soon...you're not giving me the 3 weeks, POS?

shaftr, the ghost author. cheat, the never-present manager. colin, the obfuscating author. wiz…well. who the fuck knows. at least he shows up to work.

by winningugly on Aug 4, 2008 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

just for you

the critics also fail to mention that thome is dumb as shit

this from the dugout is new to me, but thome is a regular character on their threads

He was a catcher with the Orioles back in the day. Sorry looking (expletive). My brother had his card. He looked like this little kid who got left at a bus station by his parents. You know why? Because he had to catch Hoyt Wilhelms knuckle ball five (expletive) years.

by onlysoxfaninboston on Aug 4, 2008 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's pretty GD funny

Poor Jim. Fortunately, it looks like perhaps he can’t read, so “machts nichts”.

shaftr, the ghost author. cheat, the never-present manager. colin, the obfuscating author. wiz…well. who the fuck knows. at least he shows up to work.

by winningugly on Aug 4, 2008 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

haha

i know, poor jim, but at least he comes off as a nice guy (he’s the gentleman masher of course). i also found the jackie robinson one hysterical.

He was a catcher with the Orioles back in the day. Sorry looking (expletive). My brother had his card. He looked like this little kid who got left at a bus station by his parents. You know why? Because he had to catch Hoyt Wilhelms knuckle ball five (expletive) years.

by onlysoxfaninboston on Aug 4, 2008 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

At least 4 of the lines cracked me up. Thanks.

shaftr, the ghost author. cheat, the never-present manager. colin, the obfuscating author. wiz…well. who the fuck knows. at least he shows up to work.

by winningugly on Aug 4, 2008 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Trib or S-T couldn't be bothered to track down a scout?

Let alone what appears to be like 5 or 6.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Aug 4, 2008 11:04 PM CDT reply actions  

beat writers are too busy twittering

He was a catcher with the Orioles back in the day. Sorry looking (expletive). My brother had his card. He looked like this little kid who got left at a bus station by his parents. You know why? Because he had to catch Hoyt Wilhelms knuckle ball five (expletive) years.

by onlysoxfaninboston on Aug 5, 2008 8:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

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