There is no Joy in Soxville, The Mighty Kaptain is out
We've already had a couple of tongue in cheek entries titled "Worst Game of the Season" and "The Day the White Sox Lost the Central," but if ever there was a time for hyperbolic headlines, this is it.
Everything that could go wrong did go wrong in Tuesday's double header. Paul Konerko might be lost for the season. Javier Vazquez pitched just well enough to lose, and just long enough to make a Lance Broadway start on Saturday a distinct possibility. Clayton Richard still doesn't have a second or third major league pitch, and doesn't belong on the mound starting games for a playoff contender. The Sox drop two games in a single day, scoring just 3 runs in the process. Oh, and The Twins win to pick up a game and a half in the standings. It would have been difficult for the South Side to have a worse day overall.
Sox fans have experienced a broad range of emotions in the last 5 days. From Q!s season ending injury and surgery, to a solid win against the Angels, a marathon affair on Saturday followed by a blown lead on Sunday, I was actually feeling pretty good about the Sox chances.
The White Sox had been in first or within a half game of first every day since May 16th. The Twins weren't exactly playing good baseball the last two weeks. I figured the Sox didn't exactly have to play their best baseball down the stretch to make the playoffs, slightly over .500 figured to be enough. Even my favorite postseason odds simulation was finally starting to run in the Sox favor. ELO had the Sox making the playoffs 70% of the time before Tuesday's series of unfortunate events.
I should know better than to get my hopes up. Every time I've written about feeling good about the Sox this season, they go in the tank for an extended period of time. No more positivity from me, I promise.
Recapping the Nightcap
I don't think there's much to say other than the Sox got their collective butts kicked by a better team right now. Actually, dantesox' comment, and the discussion that followed, about Brian Little and the Blue Jays being the best team in baseball right now, received a lot of play on Blue Jays sites the last couple of days. They certainly have a better pitching staff than the Sox, and now with Quentin and Konerko on the shelf their offense looks to come out on top as well. The Jays have really taken it to the Sox this year, winning all 6 meetings and holding the Sox to 3 or less in every game.
The Sox had 1 hit with runners in scoring position Tuesday (across two games), upping their season total to 3 in 6 games against the Blue Jays. 3 hits with runners in scoring position in 6 games against the Jays. Think about that. The Jays had that in the 5th inning.
There is something about dome teams from the AL East that makes the White Sox bats go flaccid. The Sox didn't manage a 2-out hit w/RISP against the Rays until their 10th meeting this season, and remember it was last season in Toronto where there Sox upped their 1-for-60-something streak against opponents bullpens.
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abandon all hope
I just wish we can hold off the Tigers for 2nd in the Central
I wish he was in my fantasy league. id bury that cocksucker- KenWo4Life
From a personal standpoint...
this season has been a little different for me in that going back to my pre-season expectations for the 2008 club has tended to ‘ground’ me when the times have gotten tough. I don’t know if I put an actual number on it but I’m fairly certain that — in a poll on Soxtalk — I voted for the 78-81 wins option (or thereabouts). I’m usually not one to root for the the future (talking a few years down the road), but I think I’m more excited that Kenny has rebuilt a new core of mainstays that looks pretty damn good (Quentin and Danks, mainly, but also Floyd, Ramirez and — hopefully returning to Oakland levels — Swisher). Hell, even there’s even some good stuff to talk about down on the farm, and it looks like we’ll be getting a couple of more high-end picks from Cabrera’s departure.
Talking about the rest of the season, though… yeah, things look pretty bleak. The rotation is going to have to carry the load, and someone other than Clayton Richard needs to take the ball every fifth day. I don’t know who that is, unfortunately — I’d love to see Poreda get a chance but I trust the Sox’ judgment. If they thought he could help out — even if only in a LOOGY role — he’d be up here. That being said, I still think the Sox should be in a position to make the playoffs when they head up north for the series in that POS dome — it’d be tough for me to see Minny really pull away in the next two weeks (as both Perkins and Blackburn have already past their career highs in IP, and Baker and Slowey are relatively close, although I admit that this is a real quick-and-dirty, not-completely-correct way of assessing things). All told, you’re looking at two a-tad-better-than-average teams who are battling to be first-round underdogs. And that’s not an indictment on the Sox — at this point I’d expect a first-round lost (especially without a healthy Q) but just want the Sox to get there for any added revenue they’d pull in from the one or two playoff games.
Ehh, this was too long-winded but whatever. The real thing we need to keep our eye on the rest of the way is the Sox’ team OPS+ and JRE and my corresponding bet. Will the Sox be able to stay above the 100 nexus? They’re at 105 but may move down a point because of today’s suckfest. It might be a photo finish (although I’d certainly hope not)…
Motivation
Why is it that the Sox appear that they need some motivation? Why is it that they seem so disinterested? Isn’t winning the division a big enough carrot? Who is going to step up?
"What now? Let me tell you what now. I'ma call a coupla hard, pipe-hittin' n*****s, who'll go to work on the homes here with a pair of pliers and a blow torch. You hear me talkin', hillbilly boy? I ain't through with you by a damn sight. I'ma get medieval on your ass."
chins up, boys
"Difficulties show men what they are. In case of any difficulty remember that God has pitted you against a rough antagonist that you may be a conqueror, and this cannot be without toil." — Epictetus
"The greater difficulty, the more glory in surmounting it. Skillful pilots gain their reputation from storms and tempests." — Epicurus
“I get knocked down, but I get up again.” — Chumbawamba
that said, holy shit am i glad today’s over. a one-game lead is still a lead.
I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.
by thatshortkid on Sep 10, 2008 1:09 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I was bummed until the chumbawumba quote inspired my spirits to soar through the roof.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Sep 10, 2008 8:47 AM CDT up reply actions
he drinks a whiskey drnk
he drinks a vodka drink
-Jeeves Life in the Cell
Pissing the night away...
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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT
Postseaon odds
BP still has us at %69 to make the playoffs, which I’ll take.
But the team looked knackered yesterday, it was a very hard day to take as a fan.
Still, first is better than anywhere else no matter how small the lead.
Sox fan from England, marching on together
They probably aren't factoring in Konerko likely being done for the season.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
Which just shows the weakness of that particular metric
ELO’s at 52% after yesterday, which feels much more realistic, although still high given the losses of Q! and Kong
AIM: SouthSideCheat
i'm not sure i'd call that a weakness per se, though i do agree that it's probably closer to 52% than 69%
i think that difference just illustrates the rather large difference a disagreement over whether a team is likely to be an 88 or 89 win team provides. one game is huge at this point in the year. i mean, really, flip a coin whether you think the twins will go 9-9 or 10-8. who the fuck knows.
fight like a cat: paws up. - ozzie
The word "knackered" should be used more often.
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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT
Seconded.
Actually, I think it should be a permitted action for responding to posts. Rec’d, Flagged or Knackered.
by The Actual El Guapo on Sep 10, 2008 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Clayton Richard is awful...
I don’t want to see the guy ever again. He can’t even make a routine play of throwing a runner out at first base. How pathetic is that?
The Sox can’t bunt so why keep trying it? And they seem to fail with runners on base all the time. It’s awful to watch. And watching Wise / Anderson in the outfield is going to be even worse when you realize they will be playing LF with Griffey in CF.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
What happened on that play?
I was at the game and could not tell. Did he miss the tag or what?
"Baseball is 90% mental -- the other half is physical."
Yes...
He knew he couldn’t make a simple throw to first base so he tried to tag the runner and whiffed. Pretty embarrassing.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
Doesn't say much about Richard's brainpower...
That was an easy little league play. Defensive pitching fundamentals are pretty basic.
"Baseball is 90% mental -- the other half is physical."
not sure it's brainpower.
the guy has repeatedly fucked up the throw to first so he tried something else, presumably out of a fear of fucking up again.
fight like a cat: paws up. - ozzie
Well now he's got the tagging option to fear fucking up in the future...I wonder if he'll just try running the ball over himself next time.
How the hell does a pitcher mess up a throw to first?
I just don’t get it.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Sep 10, 2008 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions
The guy has enough things to fear...
like only being able to throw one pitch and giving up runs because he sucks.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
I. Do. Not. Know.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Sep 10, 2008 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions
Michigan quarterbacks only know 1 way to throw.
Rear back and throw as hard and far as you can. Seriously, we haven’t had a guy who can throw a screen or a shuffle pass since Bo was coach.
by The Actual El Guapo on Sep 10, 2008 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Brady threw the screen well
so did Griese and Henson. But that was almost 10 years ago and before that, not so much. Basically, if Anthony Thomas was in the backfield, screens and swings were decent.
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
And right after this terrible day of baseball...
we get to see the Sox face Roy Halladay while the Twins face some Royals bum starter. Should be fun…
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
Hell, just sign Bonds at this point for his bat...
Throw him in LF and pray that most balls are hit right to him and Griffey.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
If the Sox sign Barry Bonds...
that would be my last day as a Sox fan.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on Sep 10, 2008 7:54 AM CDT up reply actions
New Line-Up?
With both Kornerko and Quenton out is there any indication what the line-up will be? Will Ozzie move Ramirez up?
"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt." - Bertrand Russell
Quenton is the robot version of Q!?
I AM QUENTON.
by The Actual El Guapo on Sep 10, 2008 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions
does he fight THORNTON?
Uribe whispered, "My precious child, I love you and will never leave you, never, ever, during your trials and testings. When you saw only one set of footprints, It was then that I carried you."
More like the alien version of Q!
See: Clin-ton.
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
Why not move JD into LF? BA/Wise in CF. Griff into RF. JD's been making some pretty great plays in RF lately - while I don't want to mess with a mojo, I have more confidence with him in LF.
I know most of us have extreme feelings about Griff not being in CF, which have been expressed since his acquisition. But seriously…when will Ozzie/KW learn?
They even surprised us last night by playing Griff in both games! I was semi-kidding when I suggested that I was hoping to see him benched in game 2. Alas…
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
PS...Ohh Paulie.........

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Sep 10, 2008 8:55 AM CDT up reply actions
Konerko in the first
Was an omen for the rest of the game. First and second, none out. Bases loaded, one out. GIDP, No runs. The Sox absolutely needed to put some runs on the board in the first yesterday. Once the Jays regained the lead, the Sox lost any life.
One bright spot, however, was the cross marketing with the Blackhawks. Hawks season ticket holders paraded on the warning track before the game. Many Hawks players (minus Toews and Kane) walked to near the Sox dugout and signed autographs and took pictures with the fans. Patrick Sharp used a stick to wrist shot the “first pitch” to Buerhle. Finally, during the typically lame-ass promotion of throwing out tee shirts, the Hawks players helped out and threw the shirts deep into the crowd. I’m sure it’s something both teams will try to repeat.
"Baseball is 90% mental -- the other half is physical."
And Hawk/DJ were wearing their very own Hawks jerseys in the booth.
I wonder how Hawk is doing after yesterday’s games and the fall of Kong….he was so noticeably upset by the day’s events.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Sep 10, 2008 9:07 AM CDT up reply actions
Strike Zone
I’m sure Hawk had plenty of ball and strike calls to bitch about, too…
"Baseball is 90% mental -- the other half is physical."
what we need to win
Jerry Owens will steal 50 bases…IN EACH GAME!
Toby Hall will hit a homerun…WEEKLY!
Juan Uribe will carry this team…TO POSTSEASON GLORY!
Nick Swisher will watch a third strike… SAIL INTO THE OUTFIELD BLEACHERS
Uribe whispered, "My precious child, I love you and will never leave you, never, ever, during your trials and testings. When you saw only one set of footprints, It was then that I carried you."
I still think...
that Clayton Richard will be able to carve out a major-league career. Just not right now.
We’ll see how all this plays out. It’ll be interesting, that’s for sure.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on Sep 10, 2008 9:24 AM CDT reply actions
not writing off a player based upon performances when they obviously weren't ready?
that’s not the SSS way.
fight like a cat: paws up. - ozzie
Yeah...
I hope he can go back to the minors for a couple more seasons and learn a second pitch.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
bullshit
"Clayton Richard is awful…
I don’t want to see the guy ever again."
by Craig Grebeck on Sep 10, 2008 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions
That was sarcasm...
I do think he blows. He has no second pitch or balls.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
Clearly he has no balls...
Sarcasm? You are not capable of sarcasm. Your sense of humor is on par with a monk’s.
by Craig Grebeck on Sep 10, 2008 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions
a chick as hot as ashley isn't going to marry a guy with no balls.
fight like a cat: paws up. - ozzie
absolutely
She stopped me at Logan in Boston when she saw my Kanny shirt. I’m still not completely sure what I said.
by Craig Grebeck on Sep 10, 2008 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions
I asked Larry this in another thread but is this her?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/breiny/2702837900/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/breiny/2702017709/
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
Well, you guys were talking about how hot she is...
Had to see it for myself. Google is great.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
you certainly don't quit when you get fixated. seems like it would take some pretty aggressive googling to find those.
fight like a cat: paws up. - ozzie
Not really...
It took about two minutes. I even found a picture of you in leather chaps.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
yeah but you have no work ethic
or maybe i’m thinking of someone else…
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
Cheat the next time you spread good feelings on this site about the season
Im blowing your freaking house up.
The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.
Amazing news on Konerko...
According to the Chicago Sun Times, Paul Konerko (knee) could return as soon as Friday.
That would be amazing given how bad the injury looked, but the newspaper reports that Konerko “merely suffered a slight sprain to the right knee.” Jerry Owens figures to pick up playing time for however long Konerko is out.
Source: Chicago Sun-Times
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
I wondering where you got the likely out for rest of season
I heard that news last night
The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.
Rolling on the ground
It sure looked like the injury was much more serious. If he was a football player, I’m sure they would just shoot him.
"What now? Let me tell you what now. I'ma call a coupla hard, pipe-hittin' n*****s, who'll go to work on the homes here with a pair of pliers and a blow torch. You hear me talkin', hillbilly boy? I ain't through with you by a damn sight. I'ma get medieval on your ass."
no pain tolerance?
maybe he was just over exaggerating because he was fearful he tore his acl
i played on a Company soccer team and this girl got a ball kicked into her face. she immediately started to cry thinking she broke her nose, not because it actually hurt that much but bc she thought it for sure was broken. this fact she admits
“All I could think about on the ground was, ‘Is that what it feels like when you blow your knee out?’” said Konerko, speaking in front of his locker after the game. "It scared me more than anything.
“It did hurt, but the pain went away. That almost scared me more, because you hear how it doesn’t hurt when you blow something out.”
often described as a shot of extreme pain.
which subsides quite a bit after a few minutes to a rather weird feeling in the area. today his knee is probably quite swollen today but with little pain.
fight like a cat: paws up. - ozzie
The "scared" repetition is not what you want to hear from your El Capitan
Have to agree with SSH. Wuss. No problem with the exclamation of “AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH” as it happens but in the interview tent afterward you STFU about “fear”.
I bet every player getting a single to right now makes the wide turn at first, daring Paulie to try and catch him in a rundown. I would. “Come get me, Captain! Unless you are a WOMAN!”
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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT
"I also gave him a full, lush head of hair."

Uribe whispered, "My precious child, I love you and will never leave you, never, ever, during your trials and testings. When you saw only one set of footprints, It was then that I carried you."
Jerry Owesn, huh?
Not surprising in the least.
Canadian broadcasters
Up here on Canadian TV what a joy it was to listen to the game without the Hawk and DJ. The announcers were reasonably analytical on the play of both teams throughout the game and it was apparent from their comments that they had done their homework on the recent play of individual Sox players. They were also even handed in their discussion of both teams which made it “Canadian nice”.
P.S. Ozzie’s using too many players (September call ups), particularly relief pitchers. McDougall in the 9th of a close game yesterday afternoon – barfffff…
Looks like Alexei is finally hitting a slump.
by Dick Allen's batting helmet on Sep 10, 2008 11:03 AM CDT reply actions
willis and garcia to start for tigers next tuesday and thursday respectively
http://detroit.tigers.mlb.com/schedule/index.jsp?c_id=det
fight like a cat: paws up. - ozzie
We should expect two wins right there then...
Willis can’t throw strikes and Garcia throws 87 MPH.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
huh?!?! the sox still are playing games?
Matchup: Blue Jays (78-66) at White Sox (80-64), 7:11 p.m. CT
Probable Starters: Roy Halladay (218 IP, 3.10 RA, 1.04 WHIP, 185 K) vs. Mark Buehrle (185 1/3, 4.66, 1.34, 117)
Pythagorean Record: Toronto, 83-61 (642 RS, 546 RA); Chicago, 80-64 (722 RS, 635 RA)
Hit List Rankings: Toronto, #9; Chicago, #8
Prospectus: Games lasting less than two hours are all but extinct nowadays thanks to the explosion of offense and the increased emphasis on deep counts (and big bullpens), but tonight’s contest could well challenge that fabled mark, as it features two of the fastest-working starters in the game. White Sox games started by Buehrle this season have averaged two hours and 37.4 minutes, the shortest duration for any starter in baseball (minimum 10 starts). Since 2001, the year Buehrle became a full-time member of Chicago’s rotation, games he has started have averaged an even 2:40, the quickest amongst all pitchers with at least 50 starts in that span. The only active pitcher that checks in with quicker game times is Francisco Liriano, who has brought about an average of 2:34.9 in his 30 career starts. Halladay does not work quite as fast, but this year his average game time is 2:42, seventh quickest in the majors among pitchers with at least 10 starts, and his average since 2001 sits at 2:42.5, sixth among pitchers with 50+ starts. The last time these two matched up was on July 28 of 2007, when Buehrle threw eight shutout innings to beat Halladay, who earned a tough complete-game defeat in a 2-0 Chicago win that took only 2:07 to complete. The fast-working pair beat that low mark by a wide margin in their first meeting of last year, on May 31—on that occasion it was Halladay who pitched seven shutout innings, and Buehrle who took the complete-game loss in a 2-0 Toronto win, which was over in an extremely snappy 1:50.
Halladay will look to turn in a repeat performance in order to give Toronto its 11th straight win, the most since the Jays took 11 in a row late in the 1998 season. He will be pitching against a ChiSox lineup that suffered its second major blow this month in yesterday’s game, when Paul Konerko was carried off the field after collapsing while trying to execute a run-down play. It appears that Konerko’s injury is a mild sprain of the MCL of his knee, not as bad as was originally feared, but an injury that could still put him on the shelf for a bit.
fight like a cat: paws up. - ozzie
ssh + jre logic dictates that the division will be tied following tonight's play and it may just be better to forfeit the game to save pitchers for this weekend.
"the most important thing to remember about drunks is that drunks are far more intelligent than non-drunks."
by Toonderstrook on Sep 10, 2008 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions
You must be thinking the same thing to post that...
I don’t know about saving pitchers but I definitely wouldn’t be surprised to see the Sox and Twins tied for first place after tonight. These guys couldn’t hit Burnett or Litsch but they are going to hit Halladay? Meanwhile, the Twins will probably destroy whatever bum starter the Royals are throwing at them.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
For what it's worth...
it’ll be Kyle Davies pitching for the Royals.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on Sep 10, 2008 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions
win expectancies will favor the blue jays and twins today, i have no doubt. but going into the day accepting those things as true takes all the fun out of baseball.
"the most important thing to remember about drunks is that drunks are far more intelligent than non-drunks."
by Toonderstrook on Sep 10, 2008 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions
no, i'm not. i was just playing off of the title to larry's post.
your logic about not hitting burnett or litsch but hitting halladay is a lot like the logic that says belmont beat duke and duke beat north carolina, so belmont must be better than north carolina. it’s especially egregious when you can look at the white sox schedule and see they’ve hit really poorly against some shit pitchers and hit really well against some very good pitchers. your argument would make more sense if you based it solely on sox hitters’ pasts against halladay, not how they fared yesterday. as far as the royals/twins go, you don’t have much credibility there after your predictions for the last time the twins went out west to face the mariners and a’s (and hey, i know the twins are at home this time, but you knew they were on the road when you predicted doom for the mariners).
"the most important thing to remember about drunks is that drunks are far more intelligent than non-drunks."
by Toonderstrook on Sep 10, 2008 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions
How is it poor logic?
Burnett and Litsch are good pitchers.
Halladay is even better.
The Sox couldn’t hit Burnett or Litsch.
The Sox will have a harder time hitting against Halladay.
The logic is fine. It is not 100% to be the true outcome but I ain’t putting any money on it and I’m sure you wouldn’t either.
Bold prediction — Hawk will once again be bitching about the ump’s calls / strike zone because the Sox lineup will be getting dominated by Halladay.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
here we go again. digging up the corpse of logic and skull-fucking it.
can’t we just let logic rest in peace? can’t we just honor its memory by not abusing it? can’t we all just get along?
fight like a cat: paws up. - ozzie
Hmmm...
Premise – Sox can’t hit Litsch
Premise – Sox can’t hit Burnett
Premise – Halladay is better than Litsch or Burnett
Conclusion – Sox can’t hit Halladay
Logic seems sound.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on Sep 10, 2008 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions
there you go again. dredging up logic.
it’s dead, people. just leave it out of your arguments, okay?
fight like a cat: paws up. - ozzie
Must be some joke...
I missed out on.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on Sep 10, 2008 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions
it's criminal.
Judge: sex-with-corpse case can be prosecuted
"the most important thing to remember about drunks is that drunks are far more intelligent than non-drunks."
by Toonderstrook on Sep 10, 2008 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions
The Twins aren't playing that great, either.
I’m not too thrilled with the current situation, but the Twins are definitely still beatable.
After this series with KC is over, they go on the road and play three in Baltimore, three in Cleveland, and four in Tampa Bay. The Orioles still suck, but the Indians are playing very well recently, and the Rays will be putting everything into winning those games.
It’ll be close until the Sox get to Minnesota that last week. We’ll see what happens then.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on Sep 10, 2008 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions
That four game Rays series is huge for the Sox and may be the reason they win the division.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
Our bats are due.
Halladay will get his head ripped off.
And our collective offense will shit down his neck.
In the name of Q.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Sep 10, 2008 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions
I'll say the Sox
are NOT NOT NOT tied for 1st place after tonight’s action.
Pitching, defense and oh, shit.
Do the next right thing.
Win today's game.
i tell ya feisty, this has been the worst umpiring i've ever seen in all my years in baseball
anwyay, the sox are going to claw halladay’s eyes out tonight

brian anderson would've caught that...
Not sure if this was mentioned yet, but Hawk predicted a Sox/Cubs WS
during the 8th inning of the nightcap last night. Were they serving ice cold Falstaff up on the Fan Deck?
"There will be surgery. It will heal. It will heal fast."- Carlos Quentin on NBC 5 News Chicago (9/5/08)
I am almost certain they were taking bong hits at the commercial break.
Hawk came back from the break cackling into the night (sarcastically) and DJ continued the crazy where Hawk left off. There was something funny going on.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Sep 10, 2008 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions
they couldn't just be drinkin excessively?
west coast bias indeed.
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
Not West Coast bias...
a knowing DJ bias.
:)
cuz I know DJ personally and all…and he keeps his 3-footer in the box with them. Hawk just doesn’t usually partake.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Sep 10, 2008 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions
3 footer??!
DJ got mad skillz.
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
adorable
Uribe whispered, "My precious child, I love you and will never leave you, never, ever, during your trials and testings. When you saw only one set of footprints, It was then that I carried you."
coincidentally, that is not what the cat was thinking.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Sep 10, 2008 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions
TO: Greg Walker FOR: Immediate Distribution
See guys? So easy a kid can do it!
It was truly embarrassing to watch major leaguers fail time and time again at getting a bunt down yesterday…and I witnessed it in person. Sure, the sparse crowd meant no line at “Beers Around The World,” but that didn’t make up for the lousy performance.
"There will be surgery. It will heal. It will heal fast."- Carlos Quentin on NBC 5 News Chicago (9/5/08)
i think that's kent gerst
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
I said it yesterday...
and I’ll say it again. You want players to execute on bunts? Get players who are good at bunting – in other words, players who are currently not on the Sox roster. The idea that suddenly AJ Pierzynski will get good at bunting by practicing is as ridiculous as expecting Alexei Ramirez to start walking eighty times a season.
The problem is Guillen insisting that the Sox try to bunt. Just let them swing the bat – they’ll have a better chance of doing something productive.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on Sep 10, 2008 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Good point...
Ozzie being so insistent on bunting is ridiculous. It almost never works for the Sox and even if it does, it’s just one less out for the Sox to use to hit a homer with since this is pretty much how they score runs.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
Agreed (although it doesn't make up for the fact that an MLB player can't bunt)
Alexi should have been swinging away in his last at bat and then ended up in an 0-2 hole.
In Chicago, they run Sox TV promos featuring AJ refusing to bunt…until Mayor Daley insists…hilarious!
Let’s abandon the bunt and swing free like Juan Uuuuuuuribe!
"There will be surgery. It will heal. It will heal fast."- Carlos Quentin on NBC 5 News Chicago (9/5/08)
don't the sox have nearly the fewest sac bunts in the league?
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Ozzie has tried it several times the past few games...
He should know by now that his team is horrible at bunting and he should stop trying it.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
he generally does it as little as any manager in the game
be happy with that
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Why is Eckstein wearing a jersey that says "Gerst"?
by The Actual El Guapo on Sep 10, 2008 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions
On the planet Small he goes by that name.
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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT
Kent Gerst and David Eckstein have never been seen in the same room together, now have they?
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What's the word on Q!?
It’s been a full 48 hours since the surgery. I’ll give him 1 solid week to heal, but that’s it!
"There will be surgery. It will heal. It will heal fast."- Carlos Quentin on NBC 5 News Chicago (9/5/08)
“Guillen not counting on Quentin’s return to White Sox lineup”
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
Because he doesn't want to get his hopes up
However, on WSCR this morning, on one of the quick updates, whoever it was said very off-handedly, “Carlos Quentin, who may be back in time for the playoffs…”
So, who knows? Who among us dares to question Q’s! healing abilities?
"There will be surgery. It will heal. It will heal fast."- Carlos Quentin on NBC 5 News Chicago (9/5/08)
Carlos Quentin hopes he's a quick healer: Hopes to get the OK to swing bat in 2 weeks
One day after undergoing surgery on his right wrist, Carlos Quentin said he and the White Sox’s medical staff were exploring various ways to accelerate the healing of the fractured bone.
In other words, anything that might hasten his return to the lineup.
“It’s nothing crazy, but anything we can think of and brainstorm to heal faster,” Quentin said Tuesday morning, his arm in a sling.
Uribe whispered, "My precious child, I love you and will never leave you, never, ever, during your trials and testings. When you saw only one set of footprints, It was then that I carried you."
One suggestion

"There will be surgery. It will heal. It will heal fast."- Carlos Quentin on NBC 5 News Chicago (9/5/08)
Asian "healer"
"There will be surgery. It will heal. It will heal fast."- Carlos Quentin on NBC 5 News Chicago (9/5/08)
They come highly recommended by Linebrink.
"I'll take one in the mouth over the eyes anyday." - AJ
by omnipotent grab on Sep 10, 2008 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions
I like our chances tonight. MB's gonna come up big.
And Doc is hittable. 3 runs will do it. You heard it here first. Ridicule away.
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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT
Bring me the head of Gregg Zaun!
Uribe whispered, "My precious child, I love you and will never leave you, never, ever, during your trials and testings. When you saw only one set of footprints, It was then that I carried you."
Halladay has only given up three runs in two of his last nine starts.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
I'm OK with that.
Time for a rebound. We like good pitchers. We have had some success v. Doc, yes? (At work, no time to look this up, but IIRC we’ve done OK the last 2-3 years against him. Might be totally off base. I don’t care. We win if we score 3.)
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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT
it was a bomb, too.
You're on thin fucking ice my pedigree chums, and I shall be under it when it breaks. Now, fuck off.
This year and last year the Sox have sucked against Halladay...
In 2006, they beat up on him.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
Sorry, "earned runs"...
http://mlb.mlb.com/stats/individual_player_gamebygamelog.jsp?playerID=136880&statType=2
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
nobody who is anybody uses earned runs anymore.
poor, arbitrary measure. RA is much better.
fight like a cat: paws up. - ozzie
The Egyptian Sun God.

Don’t you read Baseball Prospectus?
by The Actual El Guapo on Sep 10, 2008 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions
excellent thread
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
I haven't got a subscription
and I’m not going to pay for one either if it means I start serving up crappy jokes like that one.
regards
Sox fan from England, marching on together
Man, no appreciation on this site for Ra or Quetzlcoatl.
I’m starting to think there is a serious bias against sun gods.
by The Actual El Guapo on Sep 10, 2008 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Aton was my favorite.
Apollo was cool too
Uribe whispered, "My precious child, I love you and will never leave you, never, ever, during your trials and testings. When you saw only one set of footprints, It was then that I carried you."
The English are not known for their subtle humor.
Benny Hill/Monty Python/Fawlty Towers, sure. Cross-dressing and screaming always gets a laugh. Not “Sun God” similies. (Though we Italians are the masters of understated humor. Take “Goodfellas” or “"My Cousin Vinnie” as exhibits 1 and 2.)
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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT
hardest laugh for me in goodfellas is when they eat dinner at pesci's mom's house
and they talk about the painting of the man on a rowboat with 2 dogs. hilarious. i laugh every time i think about that scene.
You're on thin fucking ice my pedigree chums, and I shall be under it when it breaks. Now, fuck off.
"Hey ma! I gotta borrow this knife, OK?"
"There will be surgery. It will heal. It will heal fast."- Carlos Quentin on NBC 5 News Chicago (9/5/08)
My Grandmother (GRHS) was just like Pesci's Mom.
“Oh, you just knocked over a liquor store? Come, have some breaded steak and ziti. So what if it’s 3 AM? You’re hungry.”
I loved that woman.
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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT
you have no idea
Benny Hill – fat pervert, not fucking funny
Monty Python – English public schoolboys, not fucking funny
Fawlty Towers – not fucking funny
regards
Sox fan from England, marching on together
Queen/Prince Charles, though:
Absolutely effin’ hysterical in underplaying their roles. Brilliant.
Elton John: Devastatingly ironic.
Amy Winehouse: Brutally sarcastic and witty.
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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT
I don't like most comedians to be honest
they don’t make me laugh
Sox fan from England, marching on together
I find it funny that lots
of Americans think English humour revolves around Benny Hill and Monty Python, when nobody I knock about with would think that kind of thing has any value at all.
regards
Sox fan from England, marching on together
Many of us grew up on it in the States
in the ’70’s. No offense – it’s what was big here.
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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT
Monty Python...
…was shown on public broadcasting in Chicago back in the 70s. Every now and then you were treated to a breast shot…which was a big deal to a 9-year old.
"There will be surgery. It will heal. It will heal fast."- Carlos Quentin on NBC 5 News Chicago (9/5/08)
eh, not for everyone
but i never cared for benny hill or python…
by onlysoxfaninboston on Sep 10, 2008 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions
do you like anything?
blue collar hee haw or what?
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i don't know much about sun gods, but when the sun burns out we're all gonna be in big trouble.
You're on thin fucking ice my pedigree chums, and I shall be under it when it breaks. Now, fuck off.
I was always a fan of the mummy Ra-Amen-Ka.
Does that count?
by ReservoirDog on Sep 10, 2008 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions
I've found it
on the old fashioned site, so I now understand why Floyd has an ERA of 3.72 and an RA of 4.66.
regards
Sox fan from England, marching on together
There you go.
Ra is proud.
"I'll take one in the mouth over the eyes anyday." - AJ
by omnipotent grab on Sep 10, 2008 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Injuries everywhere! Q! Paulie, Crede...
I thought God was a Sox fan.

"There will be surgery. It will heal. It will heal fast."- Carlos Quentin on NBC 5 News Chicago (9/5/08)
God is a Pablo Ozuna fan
Uribe whispered, "My precious child, I love you and will never leave you, never, ever, during your trials and testings. When you saw only one set of footprints, It was then that I carried you."
Alexei is devout in following "thou shall not steal."
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Sep 10, 2008 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Thou shalt not make the 3rd out at 3rd base?
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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT
Konerko sprain confirmed
By Mark Gonzales, 2:03 p.m.
Results of an MRI have confirmed that White Sox first baseman Paul Konerko has a sprain of the medial collateral ligament in his right knee.
Konerko will be evaluated day to day, although White Sox manager Ozzie Guillen already ruled Konerko out of Wednesday 7:11 p.m. game against Toronto.
Konerko suffered the injury in the fifth inning of Tuesday night’s 8-2 loss. Konerko is hitting .356 (31-for-87) in his last 28 games.
fight like a cat: paws up. - ozzie
“Brewers acquire Coffey from Reds
Milwaukee picks up right-handed reliever off waivers”
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
i thought todd coffey was dead
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Oakland's #2 and #3 hitters against the Tigers today...
Aaron Cunningham
Ryan Sweeney
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
awesome
takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm
when trading for prospects goes wrong!
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Mike Cameron was the CF pickup of the offseason...
Mike Cameron broke a 3-3 tie by singling in Ryan Braun in the bottom of the eighth Wednesday in the Brewers’ win over the Reds.
Salomon Torres protected the 4-3 lead in the top of the ninth. Cameron also walked in the game. He’s hitting .259/.339/.512 and still playing quality defense in center field at age 35. He’s clearly worth the $10 million the Brewers would have to pay to keep him for 2009.
An .851 OPS center fielder for $7 million? Not bad.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
I so badly wanted Cameron in a Sox uniform again....
At least he’s getting to an age where KW would consider him a valuable center fielder…
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Sep 10, 2008 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions
he was the one i wanted of the CF FAs
how many runs above average would 1 month of BA and 5 months of MC be?
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Vazquez is coming back a day early, pitching Saturday. Lance Broadway is starting Sunday. 18 minutes ago
fight like a cat: paws up. - ozzie
javy has started on 3 days rest twice in his career
both times with good results. i was surprised at that considering javy is reputedly the sox pitcher who most likes to stay on a strict schedule.
fight like a cat: paws up. - ozzie
he's a goddamn whiner who doesn't know what's good for him
by onlysoxfaninboston on Sep 10, 2008 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions
For what it's worth
the weather forecast I saw this afternoon for Saturday is calling for rain most of the day.
by El Duque's Raft on Sep 10, 2008 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Awesome lineup tonight...
Cabrera, SS
Wise, LF
Dye, RF
Thome, DH
Ramirez, 2B
Pierzynski, C
Swisher, 1B
Uribe, 3B
Owens, CF
Dammit, [i]someone[/i] is going to lay down a fucking bunt, if it takes all night.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on Sep 10, 2008 5:39 PM CDT reply actions
Free Brian Anderson.
Pitching, defense and oh, shit.
Do the next right thing.
Win today's game.
Christ, JRE, Jim (of the lightly traversed www.soxmachine.com)
had this on the same GD thread about 5 hours ago. Wake up, already.
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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT
Reference
Owens hit his only career homer off him. Chip, chip, chip, chip.
Sox Machine
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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT
I read every post?
Who does?
by The Jerry Royster Experience on Sep 10, 2008 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, if you are going to post information,
rather than looking like a boob, perhaps at least read the thread above your post and see if you have a new idea. We all have time constraints, you know. Redundancies slow down the flow.
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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT
Someone's in a shitty mood today.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on Sep 10, 2008 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions
I was joking, bro.
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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT
How many bonehead plays could be made today?
With AJ, Wise, and Che in the lineup.
"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"
by Ozzie Montana on Sep 10, 2008 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions
it's amazing how quickly the best outfield in the league
becomes one of the crappiest
/let’s see what happens when i don’t look shit up first
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by vorp or winshares
did we really have one of the best? 2/3 were mighty fine, that’s for sure, just wondering if swish knocked us down a couple slots in the rankings
by onlysoxfaninboston on Sep 10, 2008 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions
I hate Jerry Owens
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He's going to steal 10 bases tonight
How he gets on base is still up in the air, however.
"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"
by Ozzie Montana on Sep 10, 2008 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes, at the top of each inning, and the bottom of the ninth,
he’s stealing 2nd base on his way to or from CF.
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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT
even though the season is over
will the game thread be posted tonight?
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