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Buehrle Picks Sox Up Off the Mat

The White Sox needed a big performance from one of their starters to get back on track. Mark Buehrle gave them just that Wednesday night at The Cell, snapping a 3-game losing streak overall and a 7-game skid against the Blue Jays.

It was oddly reminiscent of a start just a month ago against the Red Sox when Buehrle helped erase the memories of 4-game sweep/massacre that succinctly defined the 2007 season. The Sox jumped out to an early lead and Buerhle held 'em scoreless until turning it over to the pen late.

The offensive tone was set early in this game, when Jim Thome and AJ Pierzynski each came up with a rare hit with a runner in scoring position. The Sox entered the game with just 3 hits with RISP in their first 6 games against the Jays this season. By games end, the Sox had added 5 more, an offensive explosion. Pierzynski also came up with another one, a 2-run double to start the scoring in the Sox 3-run 6th.

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It wasn't a pretty lineup that Ozzie ran out there, but, at least for one night, it was effective. As somebody pointed out, it looked a little too much like a 2007 line-up without Konerko, Quentin, Crede and General Soreness. But Dewayne Wise, Jerry Owens and Brian Anderson were each productive in their own way. Owens turned his speed into an infield hit and a stolen base, which didn't amount to any runs on the scoreboard, but really came through in a big way with a squeeze bunt* to plate--yeah, I'm using it as a verb again--the Sox 5th run of the game. Anderson, who replaced Owens when the Jays turned to lefty reliever, came through with a 2-out RBI single, which didn't seem that big at the time.

But when Bobby Jenks started throwing batting practice, that run would loom large. Jenks showed maybe the best curveball we've seen from him early in his extended outing, but after he used it to punch out Gregg Zaun leading off the inning, he reverted to mostly fastballs. The Blue Jays were not fooled. Thanfully, he was able to find his slider when Alex Rios strolled to the plate with the tying run just 90 feet from home. It would have been a demoralizing loss if the Sox couldn't hold on to a 5-0 lead after 7.

It was a big win, maybe the biggest of the season. I don't think that's the last time I'll be trotting out that cliche. But when you've got a one game lead on the division, every win is your biggest win until the magic number, or conversely, the tragic number, reaches zero.

* I'm a huge fan of the squeeze bunt. It's easily my favorite play in baseball. But the Sox aren't exactly equipped with the type of lineup that can be counted on to get a bunt down in a situation like that. I think their only attempt of the season was Anderson's failed attempt in the three-month long game. Of course, as I write this Big Papi lays down a sacrifice bunt--he wasn't even trying to beat the shift--in the bottom of the 12th inning.

* * * * *

This afternoon, Joe Cowley twittered that Javier Vazquez would be starting on short rest Saturday, with Lance Broadway--oh, joy--getting the start on Sunday. Vazquez has previously started on short rest twice in his career, with the last time coming during his stellar first half in New York. Broadway is getting the start over Clayton Richard because Ozzie wanted to throw a right-handed pitcher against a Detroit team that ranks among the best in baseball against lefties.

One is left to wonder--those of us prone to wondering, that is--why not throw Vazquez on regular rest with Broadway going on Saturday? Though I now see that's exactly how it's listed on the ChiSox.com probable starters, so Ozzie may have changed his mind, or Cowley misunderstood him (easy to do), or ChiSox.com is wrong (all possibilities). I'll take the wait and see approach until we get confirmation one way or the other.

[Update by The Cheat, 09/10/08 11:56 PM CDT ]: The Daily Herald's Scott Gregor is confirmation enough for me. Looks like Vazquez will start on Saturday, though he doesn't really explain why. Does Vazquez get one extra start, the 5th starter one less, this way? I don't really want to go through the trouble of counting it all out.

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According to my calculations, this would not give Vazquez another start

unless he skipped over someone else in the future, which could happen on the Sept. 22 off day.

Nice summary, btw, Mr. Michaels, as I was not able to keep up with the game this evening…but what have you done to cheat? ;)

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Sep 11, 2008 12:15 AM CDT   0 recs

There is no Cheat, only Zuul

White Sox, that’s baseball.

by vince_ on Sep 11, 2008 12:19 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Whats with the Ghostbusters references tonight?

Earlier Vigo, from part 2, was referenced.

"I'll take one in the mouth over the eyes anyday." - AJ

by omnipotent grab on Sep 11, 2008 12:45 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

When you say Vigo, i'm assuming that you're referring to

Vigo The Carpathian, Vigo The Cruel, Vigo The Torturer, Vigo The Despised, Vigo The Unholy, the Scourge of Carpathia, and the Sorrow of Moldavia.

Or did you have some entirely other Vigo on your mind?

You're on thin fucking ice my pedigree chums, and I shall be under it when it breaks. Now, fuck off.

by MarketMaker on Sep 11, 2008 12:51 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

"I'll take one in the mouth over the eyes anyday." - AJ

by omnipotent grab on Sep 11, 2008 1:00 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Many Shuvs and Zuuls knew what it was to be roasted in the depths of the Slor that day, I can tell you!

Uribe whispered, "My precious child, I love you and will never leave you, never, ever, during your trials and testings. When you saw only one set of footprints, It was then that I carried you."

by thecip on Sep 11, 2008 8:43 AM CDT to parent up   1 recs

schedule

i thought i read that it was so javy would be ready for thursday @ the bronx on regular rest

I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.

by thatshortkid on Sep 11, 2008 1:00 AM CDT   0 recs

You do know he pitched yesterday right?

"I'll take one in the mouth over the eyes anyday." - AJ

by omnipotent grab on Sep 11, 2008 1:02 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

now you done made me look it up

from scott luvrug:

Judging by manager Ozzie Guillen’s pregame comments on Wednesday, Vazquez will get the call on Saturday. Lance Broadway then will make start No. 2 this season in Sunday night’s series finale, with Guillen wanting to go with a right-hander against the Tigers’ power supply of Miguel Cabrera and Magglio Ordonez.

Starting Vazquez on Saturday means he will come back on regular rest in next Thursday’s final contest played by the White Sox at Yankee Stadium. But Guillen indicated he will use some of his starters outside of their regular five-day rotation over the final 13 games.

I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.

by thatshortkid on Sep 11, 2008 1:07 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Didnt look at the schedule, you should have said next Thursday.

"I'll take one in the mouth over the eyes anyday." - AJ

by omnipotent grab on Sep 11, 2008 5:41 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I was bored and went through this tonight

Floyd is scheduled to get four more starts from here on out but from there it gets a little dicey. If you don’t include the final two games of the season, Danks, Vazquez and Buehrle each have three starts the rest of the way, with Broadway/random-guy-off-the-street/Egg getting at least two more.

The last two games is where it gets a bit crummy. The Sox are going to have to attack those last two games with two of the ‘big four’ going on short rest. It figures that the guy who would be going on three days rest for that second-to-last game is Danks.

Can’t the Sox extend Poreda for a couple of three inning ‘piggyback’ starts, seeing that we’re so short-handed? (Don’t answer that, it’s mostly rhetorical and just me whining.)

by CWSKeith on Sep 11, 2008 1:04 AM CDT   0 recs

I love this picture from early tuesdays game.

"I'll take one in the mouth over the eyes anyday." - AJ

by omnipotent grab on Sep 11, 2008 1:04 AM CDT   0 recs

Was that the "catch" sans ball?

ah yes…there’s the ball under his leg.
He hit that wall comically hard.

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Sep 11, 2008 8:25 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

jim

you need to make a t shirt with that cat holding that belt….please

by Jbasic89 on Sep 11, 2008 2:08 AM CDT   0 recs

they weren't fooled by bobby

i know in a previous thread some weeks ago it was discussed that perhaps the big boy is not throwing the slider effectively for strikes, and thus ignoring it altogether. did he even try to throw it last night??? i could check gameday, but skipped out after the 6th last night.

by onlysoxfaninboston on Sep 11, 2008 7:31 AM CDT   0 recs

or you could just read cheat's recap...

fight like a cat: paws up. - ozzie

by larry on Sep 11, 2008 8:18 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

that's true,, my bad

is regaining his slider something that’s easier said than done (for the remainder of the season)? if the jays had him figured out, last night will repeat itself..

by onlysoxfaninboston on Sep 11, 2008 9:14 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Rios, who had been on fire all game.

Saved it for when he truly needed it.

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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Sep 11, 2008 10:11 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

i would imagine this is the "modified 4 man rotation" thing ozzie promised to implement.

echoing what you said the other day, cheat, clayton richard should not be pitching for a contending team. obviously the DH fucked things up some but the move to broadway over richard against detroit makes sense under the circumstances, as you point out.

fight like a cat: paws up. - ozzie

by larry on Sep 11, 2008 8:22 AM CDT   0 recs

Im curious Larry or anyone for that matter

With the talk of importance in setting up rotation or playoffs, what order would you like to see in the promised land on the road. Assuming of course, the team is lucky enough to steal the division away from the division winning Twins?

This I know is irrelevant as they won’t be able to set up their rotation.

The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.

by Tdogg on Sep 11, 2008 8:36 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

that may well depend upon how danks looks.

but, in an ideal world where everyone is pitching basically like they’ve done over the course of the season, i’d want to go MB, javy, danks, floyd. however, even if the sox were setting things up, it might be difficult to get things that way considering how they’re set up now. i’d note, though, that my back of the envelope makes it seem more likely that it would be a javy, MB, floyd, danks set up, which is also fine. i’m not sure there’s that huge of a difference between the starters that you’re really all that concerned. 1-4 the sox are pretty solid overall (who is the #1? who is the #4? you’re get lots of different answers, unlike some other teams).

fight like a cat: paws up. - ozzie

by larry on Sep 11, 2008 8:49 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah I figured as much.

Of the 4 only Danks has done better on the road this year (weird). Buerhle has done substantially better at home but Ozzie would be beat up if he held Mark out till game 3. The second best pitcher on the road is Floyd. Either way I’d like to see Danks get 1 of the road starts if they made the playoffs.

The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.

by Tdogg on Sep 11, 2008 9:12 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

does anyone know where i can find the results from the rays-red sox series that i think occurred this week? there was some guy on here who was incessantly gloating over another of his rays predictions and was providing an hourly update but he’s gone quiet. link? sorry for asking on here but my secretary isn’t at her station. probably checking where i stand in the receptionist fantasy baseball league.

fight like a cat: paws up. - ozzie

by larry on Sep 11, 2008 9:23 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Oh thats low.....

The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.

by Tdogg on Sep 11, 2008 9:28 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

probably.

we’ll see. still a long way to go and plenty of time for an overhaul by the sawks. you may still be right. no need to be daily scoreboard watching on this one.

fight like a cat: paws up. - ozzie

by larry on Sep 11, 2008 9:30 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Stats vs Rays (a likely 1st round opponent)

Mark B
3 starts
19 2/3 IP 25 h, 4.58 era 0-1

Vazquez
3 starts
20 1/3 IP 16h, 3.54 era 1-2

Danks
3 starts
19 1/3 IP 16h, 1.86 era 2-1

So in fantasyland
Vaz, Danks,Buer and then Floyd

The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.

by Tdogg on Sep 11, 2008 9:26 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

interesting numbers. thanks.

given up on the red sox already? mumbles something about a three game lead not being that big when you still have three games against that opponent.

fight like a cat: paws up. - ozzie

by larry on Sep 11, 2008 9:28 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Don't I have to?

I actually watched the last half of both games. The Red Sox should have won both and should be in 1st. But if I was a chick I’d be my neice’s aunt. As I said I rooting for the Rays though.

The playoffs, as everyone has stated are a bit of a crapshoot but that would be the best case “real” scenario for our boys.
Sox at Rays
Bsox at Angels.

The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.

by Tdogg on Sep 11, 2008 9:34 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

you've just kept coming up with predictions about how the rays would falter.

“no, really guys. this time it’s gonna happen.” i thought you were made of stronger stuff than this, tdogg. your pussy friends rubbing off on you? fight until the last man! you’re right until they’re mathematically eliminated! and, even then, it’s not because you were wrong! you were right – they were wrong!

fight like a cat: paws up. - ozzie

by larry on Sep 11, 2008 9:39 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

lol

The BSox are a better team than the Rays. Funny thing though, the Rays don’t know it!

The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.

by Tdogg on Sep 11, 2008 9:47 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

now you're cookin'

the old “they’re too young to realize it” argument.

fight like a cat: paws up. - ozzie

by larry on Sep 11, 2008 9:52 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Rays using the Sox' 2005 script.

Let ’em get to a 1/2 game out, then rip their hearts out in dramatic fashion(JOE! CREDE PENA!)

Goddammit, I am going to see a Sox/Rays playoff game down here yet!

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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Sep 11, 2008 10:27 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

no way

they will just tarp off seats to make the stadium look full (cheap shot at the Oakland A’s)

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Sep 11, 2008 6:28 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I agree except I'd flip Floyd and Danks.

I actually trust Gavin more right now, though it would break up your L/R/L/R rotation.

MM needs to admit that MB is the “big game” pitcher, not Danks. (We conversed about this a couple months ago.) Mark and Gavin = “stoppers”.

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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Sep 11, 2008 10:51 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

carrasco more valuable in bullpen. and, good lord, poreda shouldn't be starting for a contender, either. especially against a lefty killer lineup.

nothing like sending a guy out for his major league debut against a team he’s unlikely to have any success against.

fight like a cat: paws up. - ozzie

by larry on Sep 11, 2008 10:50 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Both are likely to be awful

one is expendable.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Sep 11, 2008 11:39 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

i'd be more than willing to bet that broadway would do far better against the tigers than poreda.

he should not be starting. neither should broadway. but at least lance is right-handed and has multiple pitches. and adding poreda to the 40 man roster at this point for a single start and maybe some bullpen work is getting close to silly. the sox decided to stick with poreda as a starter, which is why he’s going to AFL to get his innings pitched up. he likely has not been throwing at the necessary level and intensity since his last start. it makes no sense, and is likely destructive to his development, to change the plan now.

fight like a cat: paws up. - ozzie

by larry on Sep 11, 2008 11:45 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

That makes sense...

Do you still want Poreda in the bullpen though?

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Sep 11, 2008 11:47 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I kinda do

but I’m willing to accept that the Sox’ judgment here is very probably better than mine.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Sep 11, 2008 11:53 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

not anymore. that decision should have been made last month if it was going to be made.

he should have been up in mid august if that’s what they were going to do. again, screwing with him by telling him you’re a starter, you’re going to the AFL, back off for a couple weeks before going to the AFL as a starter – oh, wait, now we want you to play for the big club out of the bullpen….not a good idea. the sox made a decision. i don’t agree with that decision. but i disagree more with not sticking with whatever course they decided to set him upon.

i will note, however, that the choice the sox made helps him be a starter – and potentially with the white sox as a starter – next year. the bullpen choice would have significantly impeded that progress, especially because he wouldn’t be getting his innings up sufficiently this year (leaving him open to that whole rule of 30 thing next year). i would have sacrificed that progress for 1.5 months or so of regular season work out of the bullpen and usage in the playoffs. but, again, that ship has long since sailed.

fight like a cat: paws up. - ozzie

by larry on Sep 11, 2008 11:55 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

The Contreras injury and the realization that Richard is not ready...

probably made up the Sox mind about Poreda for them. They will need another starter for next season.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Sep 11, 2008 12:11 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Lets worry about that next year.

On the bright side Im sure even you feel 10x as good about the rotation in 09 than you felt about 08 coming in.

The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.

by Tdogg on Sep 11, 2008 12:16 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

perhaps. but, just like with all pitchers, you should pretty much assume they are starters, and act accordingly, until they prove otherwise.

i’m a big fan of the “have your best 11/12 pitchers on the big league club and the roles will sort themselves out” instead of the usual “we have 11/12 roles to fill, let’s find players who we think, a priori, fit those roles”. i’d argue that poreda is one of the 11 or 12 best pitchers in the organization. however, it’s also kind of glib to just throw out long term development altogether in order to achieve my belief in how a team should fill their staff. so i think you have to modify my belief to use a little nuance and common sense – you know, does a guy still have a lot to gain from pitching in the minors in a starting role as opposed to in the majors in a limited role? if there’s still a lot to be gained, leave him in the minors, even if he’s easily one of your top 11 pitchers. and there’s a whole lot to be gained with poreda.

fight like a cat: paws up. - ozzie

by larry on Sep 11, 2008 12:20 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I don't know if you've noticed...

but I think the shine is off DJ Carrasco. He hasn’t pitched very well recently.

And I don’t know anything about Aaron Poreda, or whether or not he’s ready to jump into a September major-league start in the middle of a pennant race.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on Sep 11, 2008 10:50 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

that is certainly true re: carrasco.

he was going to turn into a pumpkin at some point. he has looked more orange recently.

fight like a cat: paws up. - ozzie

by larry on Sep 11, 2008 10:52 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Perhaps he's a little beat in his newer role.

Might need a break. Too bad. Start for KC or relieve in a pennant race. I’d suck it up if I were him.

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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Sep 11, 2008 10:52 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

rec'd. his lack of effort and nonchalant attitude is the reason for his fial of late.

"the most important thing to remember about drunks is that drunks are far more intelligent than non-drunks."

by Toonderstrook on Sep 11, 2008 10:53 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

All I'm saying is he might be unaccustomed to this type of work.

The fact that he was basically cut by the Royals (the Royals!) has no bearing.

;)

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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Sep 11, 2008 10:55 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Also I appreciate that you chose that particular post to enter the discussion.

Where TF were you last night? No props for my bold call yesterday? No slack is cut today for the old man?

POS.

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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Sep 11, 2008 10:57 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

drinking copious amounts of boont amber at a dive.

great call. i am in awe of your prescience. btw, have you heard what the logic machine says about tonight’s game?

"the most important thing to remember about drunks is that drunks are far more intelligent than non-drunks."

by Toonderstrook on Sep 11, 2008 11:00 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

An an OPOS, once I was good, now I'm good once.

Hate to say it, but Gavin’s due for a “L”, and we don’t hit Marcum well. Plus, Jays have to be revved about scaring the crap out of us last night.

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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Sep 11, 2008 11:21 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

*As*

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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Sep 11, 2008 11:21 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Not that anyone cares:

1. I like our chances tonight. MB’s gonna come up big.
And Doc is hittable. 3 runs will do it. You heard it here first. Ridicule away.
by winningugly on Sep 10, 2008 3:05 PM EDT

I must amend the formula: MB + OD – BJ = W-2

2. Cheat, thanks for changing the avatar.

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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Sep 11, 2008 8:56 AM CDT   0 recs

'not that anyone cares?'

I even included your prediction in my game wrap-up below!

I always expect the best out of MB (as I have said many times before, even after horrible outings by him), especially in big games against high-caliber pitchers.
Our offense was the sketchy element – but it seems a trend this season to produce against the aces, and allow scrub no-names to shut us down. On that alone, I was expecting a win against Doc last night as well.

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Sep 11, 2008 9:11 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I was a minute ahead of you.

Just like me and my wife.

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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Sep 11, 2008 10:12 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah, but it was writ by the time you posted that....

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Sep 11, 2008 10:14 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Mark Buerhle

Home
10-3 2.74

Road
3-8 4.68

The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.

by Tdogg on Sep 11, 2008 9:14 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

It was a good call...

I didn’t think the Sox had a chance. But the Twins are definitely going to sweep the Royals.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Sep 11, 2008 10:41 AM CDT to parent up   1 recs

I love your "definitely"s.

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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Sep 11, 2008 10:53 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs