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White Sox Sweep First DoubleHeader Since '01

After the Rain Comes a Rainbow

Record rain fell on Chicago Saturday, postponing the White Sox scheduled doubleheader with the Tigers. Rain fell all afternoon and night on Friday, postponing that scheduled game to after the end of the "regular season." Rain fell all morning and into the early afternoon on Sunday, delaying the start of game one of the doubleheader by 3 hours and 11 minutes. According to head groundskeeper Roger Bossard, US Cellular Field saw about 9.5 inches of rain during the 50 hour span when the ACE hardware tarp saw more TV time than actual players. To his credit, the playing condition of the field was not an issue even with the record-setting rains.

The sun never came out; there wasn't any parting of the clouds, or a rainbow straddling the stadium; but there was baseball to be played. And after two days cooped up in flooded northern Chicagoland, that was good enough for me. With the Twins dropping a game to the faltering Orioles, the Sox had an opportunity to take advantage and pick up the 1.5 games they lost in their last doubleheader effort. And take advantage they did.

Vazquez Victorious, Verlander Vanquished

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The White Sox have an incredible record against Justin Verlander. For some reason, they just seem to have the Detroit ace's number. But for the first half of the opening game, it looked like Verlander might have the Sox number on this night. Thankfully, Javier Vazquez was there to match him pitch-for-pitch.

The offense seemed content to help Verlander out in the early going, making an inning's worth of outs on the basepaths. Juan Uribe singled home Ken Griffey Jr. after he hit a double off the wall to put the Sox on the board after 5. That might have been enough for Vazquez, who altered his side-session schedule to be ready to go on short rest Saturday, but the offense didn't stop there. Alexei Ramirez added a solo-shot. And in the 8th, after Vazquez had been lifted, the Sox strung together a 2-run, 2-out rally.

That 4-0 lead headed to the ninth gave Ozzie Guillen some flexibility. I thought it would be a good time to turn to Scott Linebrink for some easy late-inning work to continue to ease him back into higher leverage situations. But Guillen decided to turn to Bobby Jenks, who has been getting hit around lately. The two runs he allowed were essentially meaningless, but he still brought the tying run to the plate for the second straight time in a non-save situation.

Wise, Thornton Rescue Wobbly Pen

John Danks was originally scheduled to pitch on Friday. In fact, his start was pushed to Sunday because he had gotten warmed up Friday when it still appeared as if the game would be played. So Ozzie had to keep an eye on the 23-year old southpaw who has seemed to tire over the last month. Danks showed no ill-effects from the impromptu side-session, and probably would have gone deeper into the game if not for the lingering concerns about his workload and a seemingly comfortable 7-0 lead. That lead would prove to be much more precarious than it seemed when Danks left the game and especially after ESPN cut the Carlos Zambrano no-hitter.

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With the exception of Matt Thornton, the bullpen has provided no relief lately. In addition to Jenks troubles which I touched on above; the lightning has escaped DJ Carrasco's bottle; Octavio Dotel has allowed 8 homers, including the game-tying grand slam Sunday night, since the All-Star break; Linebrink is understandably rusty, and probably not 100% after spending 2 months on the DL; Ehren Wasserman has sprinkled brief outings of effectiveness in between long periods of awful. I think it says a lot about the shape of the White Sox pen that Mike MacDougal, who spent nearly the entire season wasting away in Charlotte, might be the best available right-hander right now. So, when the Sox managed to blow a 7-run lead over the span of about 25 minutes, it's hard (read: impossible, to those who possess critical thinking ability) to blame Ozzie for the blowup.

As quickly as the Sox lead disappeared at the hands of a grand slam allowed by their bullpen, it was given back by a grand slam off the bat of Dewayne Wise off an equally bad Tigers pen (read: Kyle Farnsworth). Wise, who drove in a key insurance run while starting in LF of the first game, earned himself some more playing time in Konerko's absence with his day of work, culminating in his pinch-hit, eventual game-winning slam and curtain call.

The two victories, which lowered the White Sox Magic Number to 13 and increased their division lead over the Twins to 1.5 games, were the spoonful of sugar to wash down the medicine that is the alarmingly shaky bullpen. The Sox will need to rely heavily on the pen down the stretch, as they eventually plan on throwing some starters on short rest. It goes without saying that the pen can not continue to pitch this poorly if the Sox have hopes of holding off the Twins in the final 13 or 14 games (if necessary).

Meta (Moron Prevention)

We get it. The bullpen blew a lead. Therefore, Ozzie is an idiot. You have AOL--don't they all--and you seem to think it's your god-given right to use it as an avenue to vent your misdirected rage.

Thanks to an influx of, how do I say this nicely--ah, fuck, who cares about being nice--short-bus riding mouth-breathers, who think that the ability to complete the registration process and string together 75 words gives them poetic license to infect this site with their own special blend of ill-informed stupidity, I've implemented a 24-hour waiting period for all new posters. This obviously won't effect any of the regular users here, but it should help curb the mongoloids who wish to misdirect their anger towards Ozzie and other troll-types.

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A few of the sister sites have that 24 hour waiting period

Its a good idea. Dotel’s fastball is just too flat now. That 1st half movement is gone. And JRE aside he scares the hell out of everyone now. Nevertheless huge wins yesterday. And despite all the drama huge props for Javy and Danks.

The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.

by Tdogg on Sep 15, 2008 7:14 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

SP comes up big, old guys holding firm.

HUGE. Let’s keep it rolling.

"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Sep 15, 2008 7:16 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

now, now

remember that you’re supposed to be keeping a lid on it.

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Sep 15, 2008 12:32 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you missing the point (not surprised)

sure it pissed me off, so i turned off my computer instead and read a book.

but to the point, like you, i don’t go off on SSS ‘only’ when the sox performance don’t meet my expectations. your one-dimensional comments are really annoying.

by onlysoxfaninboston on Sep 15, 2008 12:52 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So instead, you stop watching the Sox when they aren't winning anymore?

So that’s how I can be a true fan like you? Ah okay, I get the point now.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Sep 15, 2008 1:01 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nice to throw cold water on a great night, SSH.

Burn down the village to save it. Always a good strategy.

How many contentious discussions can one man have in one/two days?

"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Sep 15, 2008 1:07 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

SSH2005: If you don't badmouth the Sox at every turn, you're a Cubs fan

But if you trash the Sox while going out of the way to laud the Cubs, then you’re a Sox fan.

Chip, chip, chip, chip.
Sox Machine

by Sox Machine on Sep 15, 2008 1:13 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I hate the Cubs...

Fuck Zambrano and his garbage no-hitter against a garbage lineup.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Sep 15, 2008 1:16 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The only reason I can get on board with abandoning the game, is because it was gameday you were watching, and that alone can escalate frustrations.

But it was still a tie!!
I didn’t think we were certain to lose just cuz they tied!! I wasn’t game ovaaa-ing because the game tied! If they gained 5 runs on us….sure….maybe…..
But don’t leave during a tie!
You missed Dewayne hitting a grannie! Jane Austen can wait!

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Sep 15, 2008 1:06 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You sure that's a female?

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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Sep 15, 2008 1:22 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nehru (or at least the actor who played him in "Gandhi").

"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Sep 15, 2008 1:32 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i'd just like to give a shout-out to shuhana khan.

she’s one of our newer employees but she’s really taken to the character of “SSH2005”. her timing yesterday was indeed immaculate. she knows full well that SSH doesn’t post when things are going well but will rush to a computer, blackberry, palm pilot – anything with internet access – the moment things begin to look grim for the white sox. and then will just go on with some diarrhea-like whining. we gave her a bonus for her work yesterday: a goat.

fight like a cat: paws up. - ozzie

by larry on Sep 15, 2008 12:51 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   1 recs

i'm a victim of circumstance.

by Toonderstrook on Sep 15, 2008 12:56 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If only my stand-in was so good...

Can I get an upgrade?

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Sep 15, 2008 12:58 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

One who likes baseball, preferably?

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Sep 15, 2008 12:58 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

no. you aren't essential for operations.

we prefer posters who increase, not decrease, traffic and posting.

fight like a cat: paws up. - ozzie

by larry on Sep 15, 2008 1:12 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

and don't write about what they did with their weekend.

You're on thin fucking ice my pedigree chums, and I shall be under it when it breaks. Now, fuck off.

by MarketMaker on Sep 15, 2008 1:13 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If anyone else had written that, I'd say something to the effect of, "sounds like a sweet night."

I thought it was a pleasant story – I’m not accustomed to getting hosted in such a lovely manner. Very rare, actually. I posted it in a crappy expired post too…

If you had told us about the crater-faced stripper at Blue Ballz over the weekend, I would not have given you shit about it.

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Sep 15, 2008 1:16 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

but i did not. see the difference? or are you still thinking about how uninteresting no-hitters are?

You're on thin fucking ice my pedigree chums, and I shall be under it when it breaks. Now, fuck off.

by MarketMaker on Sep 15, 2008 1:18 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Aw, your first fight.

When does the predictable ending happen (Now go make me a sandwich!)?

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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Sep 15, 2008 1:19 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

when the back of my hand makes an appearance.

she’s soft. gotta toughen her up.

You're on thin fucking ice my pedigree chums, and I shall be under it when it breaks. Now, fuck off.

by MarketMaker on Sep 15, 2008 1:20 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No, just contemplating how much I hate baseball on the whole.

no-no’s are the least of my problem, let me tell you.

yaaaawwwwwwn to this sport.

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Sep 15, 2008 1:25 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well I know that ain't true. It is proven that SSH decreases traffic and posting...

unless you count all the compaining about him. In which case, yes, comments are through the roof.

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Sep 15, 2008 1:14 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Aw, throwing him under the bus.

Bad form. Stand tall on your own.

"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Sep 15, 2008 1:15 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

At least I am not saying that I am better for the site than SSH because he's negative.

I am fluff. Fluff of the Mountain!

You POS.

"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Sep 15, 2008 1:17 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You are better for the site...

because you serve up the aged cock-meat sandwiches.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Sep 15, 2008 1:22 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Fortunately the family-oriented employer I toil for

allows me no access to that site. I’m sure it’s safe for your kid to see, though.

"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Sep 15, 2008 1:24 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He's too young to know what daddy is doing...

when he’s serving up a cock-meat sandwich to mommy.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Sep 15, 2008 1:25 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sorry.... ahem.

I AM essential to this site – without me, there’d be no estrogen representation. Like it or not!
This place would turn into the equivalent of a virtual prison and you’d all have dicks in your ass by the end of the night, if it weren’t for me reminding you that women exist out there.
And I don’t mean the ones you post in slutty pictures on the site…real ones…who has something to say every now and then, who appreciates and shares a passion with you, and who keeps a little positivity rolling when SSH has taken over the site with his bullshit.

Also noted – I am one of the people who will tell SSH, in very articulate terms, why he is an aSSHole – Jim is another one….meaning, we take the time to show him why he sucks, in hopes that he might wake up and become a little more tolerable, rather than continue to taint an environment he SEEMS to love. That requires some respect when I could just otherwise ignore him and let him run amok – which I do most of the time only because I find our advice to him to be a complete waste of time.

If nothing else, I am an example of a bitch who can shut him up from time to time.

Essential to site value.

I shall read all the new comments since I began writing this now….

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Sep 15, 2008 1:24 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

tee hee

you said ‘taint’

I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.

by thatshortkid on Sep 15, 2008 1:25 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i'm a victim of circumstance.

by Toonderstrook on Sep 15, 2008 1:26 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

too long.

this isn’t high school english. go for pith.

fight like a cat: paws up. - ozzie

by larry on Sep 15, 2008 1:27 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I am catering to the American audience.

Those of you above the reading comprehension of what I just wrote (I am regretting not including pictures), I probably shouldn’t need to build a case to my essentiality. It is there…between the lines….
I’m the bitch that keeps Raul Ibanez in spirits between RBI’s against the Twins.

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Sep 15, 2008 1:38 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

if you can't fit it in the title line then you're writing too much.

You're on thin fucking ice my pedigree chums, and I shall be under it when it breaks. Now, fuck off.

by MarketMaker on Sep 15, 2008 1:41 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

know what i's saying? ;)

You're on thin fucking ice my pedigree chums, and I shall be under it when it breaks. Now, fuck off.

by MarketMaker on Sep 15, 2008 1:42 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

rammin' deep?

You're on thin fucking ice my pedigree chums, and I shall be under it when it breaks. Now, fuck off.

by MarketMaker on Sep 15, 2008 1:47 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

flagged. and i think she makes a strong case for why she should be banned.

You're on thin fucking ice my pedigree chums, and I shall be under it when it breaks. Now, fuck off.

by MarketMaker on Sep 15, 2008 1:27 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

finally a gentleman who understands.

You're on thin fucking ice my pedigree chums, and I shall be under it when it breaks. Now, fuck off.

by MarketMaker on Sep 15, 2008 1:42 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Toonder would have your dinner ready

and your bath drawn.

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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Sep 15, 2008 1:43 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i'm a victim of circumstance.

by Toonderstrook on Sep 15, 2008 2:17 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

OMG.

Edge. You’ve gone over the rainbow.

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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Sep 15, 2008 2:55 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

worlds are colliding, toonder.

You're on thin fucking ice my pedigree chums, and I shall be under it when it breaks. Now, fuck off.

by MarketMaker on Sep 15, 2008 1:33 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ssh2005 = ratings?

You're on thin fucking ice my pedigree chums, and I shall be under it when it breaks. Now, fuck off.

by MarketMaker on Sep 15, 2008 1:17 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I am like a freak-show...

I bring in the crowds.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Sep 15, 2008 1:18 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That's hot.

"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Sep 15, 2008 1:19 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

so you post a picture of wiz?

You're on thin fucking ice my pedigree chums, and I shall be under it when it breaks. Now, fuck off.

by MarketMaker on Sep 15, 2008 1:20 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

r.i.p.

i'm a victim of circumstance.

by Toonderstrook on Sep 15, 2008 1:20 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

( pours a little out of the 40 )

I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.

by thatshortkid on Sep 15, 2008 1:27 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

a little dom p for the man who linked himself to death.

You're on thin fucking ice my pedigree chums, and I shall be under it when it breaks. Now, fuck off.

by MarketMaker on Sep 15, 2008 1:31 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I've only got coffee...

will black coffee do?

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Sep 15, 2008 1:32 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

pike's place?

i'm a victim of circumstance.

by Toonderstrook on Sep 15, 2008 1:32 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

then pour out a little coffee for the motherfucker.

You're on thin fucking ice my pedigree chums, and I shall be under it when it breaks. Now, fuck off.

by MarketMaker on Sep 15, 2008 1:34 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I just fucking did....

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Sep 15, 2008 1:39 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Actually, I didn't

I was busy yesterday, and I’ll take your word that he was at his best, but fer chrissakes, ignore the fool.

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Sep 15, 2008 12:55 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i turned off my gameday after the meltdown

that was a huge, huge win. i’m concerned about the bullpen, but what can ozzie do? that thornton trade looks better and better each time he takes the mound. did ozzie drag the bp under the bus during post-game interviews?

by onlysoxfaninboston on Sep 15, 2008 8:48 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You guys forgot...

the most exciting thing about last night – Alexei Ramirez drew a walk! You don’t see that too often.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on Sep 15, 2008 8:53 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And he tired Rogers by threatening to steal...

little did Rogers know, he shoulda just let him go and there would have been the easy out at second.

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Sep 15, 2008 8:58 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

too true, too true

;)

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Sep 15, 2008 12:33 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Crazy night

I am heavily invested in a 21 person/team football pool with a weekly payout of $100 and a massive $3200 payout to distribute to 1st, 2nd, and 3rd at the end of year. With action on the Steelers (god damnit another meaningless Romeo Crennel FG to cover the spread) I was only glancing in at the Sox after they went up 7-0.

I turned back in time to see Thames hit that shot and then back again in time to see Wise hit his. I’m glad I wasn’t around for the in between parts.

Does this stagger to the finish really surprise anyone? I just want to see some more baseball, I have no expectations of the Sox doing anything in the playoffs, but to lead the division for the stretch they have and lose it at the end would be bitter indeed.

Danks was great and got out after only 6 innings. I guess that’s both a positive and a negative. Oh well, great day for the Sox!

by madvillian on Sep 15, 2008 9:09 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He could have thrown another inning

But there was no reason for him do that (at least thats what Ozzie thought). Hell like you said just get to the playoffs. Im not as worried about the bullpen there as Ozzie should hopefully extract decent innings from the starters in the post season.

The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.

by Tdogg on Sep 15, 2008 9:25 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

no he couldn't have.

let’s all remember the law of 2008 danks: do not send him out of for the 7th inning. punishable by multiple runs.

fight like a cat: paws up. - ozzie

by larry on Sep 15, 2008 9:32 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Considering less than 2 weeks ago he appeared to be hitting the wall

I’d agree with the decision to pull him. Hope to God he doesn’t have to go on 3 days rest.

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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Sep 15, 2008 9:35 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Im not

And I agree with the decision. My point was as we come down the stretch or in the context of the playoffs, Danks could have thrown another inning if he had to. He didnt.

The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.

by Tdogg on Sep 15, 2008 9:39 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

no. he couldn't have.

law of 2008 danks.

fight like a cat: paws up. - ozzie

by larry on Sep 15, 2008 9:42 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No he couldn't. Yes, he could.

Water under the bridge. How’s your bank? Who are we playing tonight? What’s our magic number? THESE are the important questions today.

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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Sep 15, 2008 9:53 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i would think the abilities of one of our starting pitchers is a rather important question. it's not a joke that danks should not pitch after the 6th inning. and the law isn't suspended because the sox are in a pennant race or something.

this is a problem with a bullpen that apparently can’t hold a lead. a couple weeks ago i would have suggested using carrasco almost exclusively as a caddy for danks and the fifth starter. now i don’t know what to do since the bullpen is a mess. at this point, the sox basically need to get 7 innings or more out of their starters. and they have two starters who are incapable of doing so and obviously can expect other starters to not be able to do it in some starts, as well. the loss of jose the innings eater contreras looms large.

fight like a cat: paws up. - ozzie

by larry on Sep 15, 2008 9:58 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You overstate things

If that is a playoff game I really dont get your resistance to the notion that Danks could have thrown another inning. I won’t argue about it though we just have to disagree.

The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.

by Tdogg on Sep 15, 2008 10:07 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No joke. What I am suggesting is that you are engaged in a purely theoretical

discussion that has an answer that cannot possibly be divined, which is “could he have thrwon another inning last night”? Maybe yes, maybe no. Can he throw into the 7th in the future? Doubtful, based upon previously asserted info, but again, who knows? He might be a better 7th inning option than our relievers Gasoline, Kerosene, and Nitroglycerine. IF there is a decision to be made I’m sure it’ll be made on an inning-by-inning basis. (And I am on record agreeing with you, remember. Times is different now, though, because of our “thinness”.) There are probably no hard and fast rules presently. We’re looking at 1930’s type situations (pitchers might have to pitch longer, on fewer days rest) because of our lack of depth. Might also be a good time for a young pitcher to step up like our 30 year old late-inning scrub hero has.

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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Sep 15, 2008 10:07 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My point

“He might be a better 7th inning option than our relievers Gasoline, Kerosene, and Nitroglycerine.”

The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.

by Tdogg on Sep 15, 2008 10:08 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

lol

Right because in no game does it make sense. Give me a break. You just feel like arguing today?

The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.

by Tdogg on Sep 15, 2008 10:12 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i've gone over this one before ad nauseum. ozzie has tried it. it hasn't worked. unless the entire bullpen has been killed in a freak meteorite strike during the game, he should not pitch past the 6th.

it’s not good for the team and it’s certainly not good for danks. i’ve said a couple times now this isn’t a joke. as you well know, i rarely make categorical statements. i’m making one now.

fight like a cat: paws up. - ozzie

by larry on Sep 15, 2008 10:15 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

larry is serious as a heart attack.

You have been warned. He has his finger on the button. Do not trifle. I categorically mean it.

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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Sep 15, 2008 10:48 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Loss of Contreras has never not loomed large, imo. Of our 4 fallen soldiers, he is the hardest loss to stomach, even more so than Q.

I have to agree with larry on this one – pull him before his illustrious 7th inning work. Our bullpen has enough trouble getting outs without runners on base, waiting for them.

DJ looked like a nice bullpen option to relieve Danks. Past tense. So did Linebrink. Past tense. I haven’t given up entirely on DJ yet, but obviously he ain’t to be completely trusted.

So currently, it appears Thorny is the only one to be trusted out of that pen. And he can work more than one inning (and more than one game per day!). As long as we have him working, let’s use him for a long relief and get our starters out and rested. It’s not ideal, but it is utilizing what we’ve got – which is a shaky 4-man rotation.

I admit I was not fond to see Dotel pitching, but it seems like a 5-run lead is a pretty damn good time to put him in, if ever. Sadly, he could not even keep that lead for Danks. That grand slam was incredibly predictable – I saw it happen before he even pitched the damn ball…unfortunately right after a really nice pitch to strike out Sheffield too – I momentarily thought Dotel was going to get out of that….

It took us 11 runs to win this ballgame -and in a sense, we needed every last one of them.

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Sep 15, 2008 10:26 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

*shaky 4-man rotation, with tired pitchers who we will hopefully need in October.

….I should say.

I think our starters have really done exceptionally overall…but we can’t abuse them if we want them to continue performing beyond their experience.

Danks is now into more starts than ever before in his career.
Let’s play it smart – especially when we have a huge lead and don’t “need” him to keep going.

How could any of us really disagree with getting bullpen in with a 7-run lead last night?

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Sep 15, 2008 10:30 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Agree with Larry on what?

Did you even read the exchange? No one wanted Danks in the game after the 6th last night. That is so not the point and Danks has not been close to being abused.

The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.

by Tdogg on Sep 15, 2008 10:42 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

well, i agree the sox have treated him with kid gloves to the fullest extent possible.

and you’re generally “abusing” pitchers to one degree or another simply by sending them out to do something which is anatomically inadvisable. all that said, in a vacuum, at this point danks is starting to be “abused” by simply being used. while he’s pitching better since what i would call a dead arm period, his mechanics have been slightly altered. i don’t know if this is a conscious thing by coop and danks based upon something they saw or if this is a more unconscious thing because of fatigue or, god forbid, injury. and there’s no way around the sox using danks for the rest of the year because this is a pennant race and the sox have no one who can come even close to providing what he does. but this is a razor’s edge situation. how guillen treats him over the next month may well be the difference between danks pitching 30 games next season or pitching 10. results aside, i’m extremely concerned by what i’ve seen over the last five starts from him.

fight like a cat: paws up. - ozzie

by larry on Sep 15, 2008 10:50 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

merrill lynch!

You're on thin fucking ice my pedigree chums, and I shall be under it when it breaks. Now, fuck off.

by MarketMaker on Sep 15, 2008 1:16 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

How's it feel to be part of history, MM?

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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Sep 15, 2008 1:20 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

exciting. and stressful. getting a lot of texts from family and friends asking what the hell is going on.

i’ve traded more volume already today than i’ve ever done in one day before.

You're on thin fucking ice my pedigree chums, and I shall be under it when it breaks. Now, fuck off.

by MarketMaker on Sep 15, 2008 1:23 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

taking a break right now. i'm drained.

You're on thin fucking ice my pedigree chums, and I shall be under it when it breaks. Now, fuck off.

by MarketMaker on Sep 15, 2008 1:23 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

so i guess ssh can stop ragging on hawk for saying dewayne wise would play a big role down the stretch.

if he doesn’t do anything else, his performance in the two games yesterday was big.

like i said during the first game, i could almost like wise if he could just play defense. it’s pretty hard to argue, however, with the 6.8 VORP he’s put up in just 91 PAs.

fight like a cat: paws up. - ozzie

by larry on Sep 15, 2008 9:26 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If the bullpen wasn't so terrible, Wise's granny isn't needed there...

Also, if Quentin and Konerko don’t get injured, Wise doesn’t get any playing time. It’s not like Hawk knew that both would get injured and Wise would end up seeing a lot of playing time.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Sep 15, 2008 11:02 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Forget it, he's on a roll.

"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Sep 15, 2008 11:25 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

"There will be surgery. It will heal. It will heal fast."- Carlos Quentin on NBC 5 News Chicago (9/5/08)

by tailgater on Sep 15, 2008 11:25 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

is it time to go solo?

brndnprkns: I'm pretty sure the "badass" value of your life is closer to Gigli than The Dark Knight

by whitesoxmatt on Sep 15, 2008 11:26 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i just now read this, but know that i appreciate it. and i was given that tape at my 5th grade b-day party.

and also, i’m havin’ a roni.

You're on thin fucking ice my pedigree chums, and I shall be under it when it breaks. Now, fuck off.

by MarketMaker on Sep 15, 2008 1:30 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Share, pls, for the oldsters. What am I missing?

(Yawning opening here.)

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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Sep 15, 2008 1:33 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

vanilla ice

brndnprkns: I'm pretty sure the "badass" value of your life is closer to Gigli than The Dark Knight

by whitesoxmatt on Sep 15, 2008 1:34 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you said the first part and wsmatt completed the rest of a vanilla ice line.

You're on thin fucking ice my pedigree chums, and I shall be under it when it breaks. Now, fuck off.

by MarketMaker on Sep 15, 2008 1:35 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Got it - thanks.

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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Sep 15, 2008 1:38 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You know the line. It was appropriate in its context. Who cares what you meant?

’Gater gets it. You POS.

;)

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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Sep 15, 2008 11:49 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Bluto says...

"There will be surgery. It will heal. It will heal fast."- Carlos Quentin on NBC 5 News Chicago (9/5/08)

by tailgater on Sep 15, 2008 1:26 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i'm a victim of circumstance.

by Toonderstrook on Sep 15, 2008 1:26 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hawk was wrong...

Wise was not needed at the time and was not going to get any playing time in the future. Hawk did not know that both Quentin and Konerko (who were healthy at the time he made the comment) were going to get injured and that Wise would then get a lot of playing time.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Sep 15, 2008 11:49 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nope...

Unless Hawk thought / knew that both Quentin and Konerko would get injured, his guess that Wise would be huge down the stretch was based on nothing more than the hot air that comes out of his mouth and his ass. Wise is collecting splinters in his ass if either one or both of Quentin and Konerko stay healthy. It was a ridiculously stupid comment then that looks good now because both Quentin and Konerko got injured.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Sep 15, 2008 11:58 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you know, it's okay to utilize the old adage of the blind squirrel.

i thought it was laughable when hawk said it, too. but his “feeling” was right.

fight like a cat: paws up. - ozzie

by larry on Sep 15, 2008 12:03 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I will just call it horribly lucky.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Sep 15, 2008 12:18 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

no predictions can ever be right unless you know exactly what will happen in the future. got it.

You're on thin fucking ice my pedigree chums, and I shall be under it when it breaks. Now, fuck off.

by MarketMaker on Sep 15, 2008 1:33 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Did anyone expect two major injuries like that?

No and neither did Hawk.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Sep 15, 2008 1:34 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Jim, as long as we are getting into the futuristic thing,

how many visitors will you have after tonight’s game? And how many will you have solicited to the site?

Hooh-a.

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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Sep 15, 2008 1:40 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hawk is also the same guy...

who said that Carlos Gomez was one of the best young players in baseball. Meanwhile, he is getting less AB’s and was dropped from the leadoff spot to ninth in the Twins lineup.

Grasping at straws? Ummm, no.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Sep 15, 2008 1:40 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

How is this meaningful to the discussion?

Bringing up an instance of Hawk being wrong doesn’t automatically make him wrong in this.

brndnprkns: I'm pretty sure the "badass" value of your life is closer to Gigli than The Dark Knight

by whitesoxmatt on Sep 15, 2008 1:42 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Unless...

…you want to invite people to bring up your repeated assertions that KW was stupid for not signing Andruw Jones every time you try some seat-of-the-pants analysis.

Chip, chip, chip, chip.
Sox Machine

by Sox Machine on Sep 15, 2008 1:44 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Whatever...

You are going to waste time defending a stupid, insane old homer because you want to argue with me. Go try to get laid sometime.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Sep 15, 2008 1:52 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You wish Jim had a problem getting laid!

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Sep 15, 2008 1:58 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ah yes, another personal attack in lieu of actual substance for the topic at hand.

Congratulations for branching out, though. It’s slightly less creepy than searching for pictures of me.

Chip, chip, chip, chip.
Sox Machine

by Sox Machine on Sep 15, 2008 2:08 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Don't make me post the photo again...

It is all the proof I need. Pretty gay photo.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Sep 15, 2008 2:17 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Please.

Jim is the BA of SSS.
Keeps the honies happy.

don’t playa-hate.

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Sep 15, 2008 2:31 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Get back in the kitchen, woman.

Less talkin’, more cookin’.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Sep 15, 2008 2:33 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

the wit is white hot in here tonight

....fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts

by hoodlight on Sep 15, 2008 2:34 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

denard span.

You're on thin fucking ice my pedigree chums, and I shall be under it when it breaks. Now, fuck off.

by MarketMaker on Sep 15, 2008 2:19 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

so your problem is that you feel hawk was right for the wrong reasons?

and even though no one else cares other than to say that hawk was right, you still feel the need to argue that it doesn’t count?

You're on thin fucking ice my pedigree chums, and I shall be under it when it breaks. Now, fuck off.

by MarketMaker on Sep 15, 2008 1:39 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The point is...

anyone who fluffs every damn Sox player like Hawk does each and every night is going to be right when one of them is finally successful. He also thought Pablo Ozuna was a key part of the team. Meanwhile, where is Ozuna now? The guy is like that roadie chick who wants to eat every member of Metallica’s cock-meat sandwich. He is a shill who thinks that every player in the Sox organization has great promise.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Sep 15, 2008 1:46 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

A team that has...

Griffey and Dye on it maybe shouldn’t be shocked if someone gets hurt, and should probably keep some extra outfielders around.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on Sep 15, 2008 1:40 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

At the time, both Quentin and Konerko were healthy...

and the Sox already had an extra outfielder with Griffey around.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Sep 15, 2008 1:41 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

*sigh*

I really hate spelling things out.

With an outfield of Quentin, Griffey, and Dye, and Paul Konerko on the verge of playing himself out of the lineup (before he got hot a few weeks ago), whoever the fourth outfielder is was likely to get a lot of playing time. Considering that Brian Anderson is on the team’s shit list for whatever reason, there was no reason why Wise wouldn’t get playing time.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on Sep 15, 2008 1:47 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not really

Even more breakdown

1. Q! (which I dearly miss typing) had never played a full major league season.
2. JD is kinda old and needs days off to keep healthy.
3. Swish isn’t that great in the OF and needs days at 1B to stay sane.
4. Griffey is Griffey.
5. Kong was hurt and not doing much until his recent tear, which ended with an almost tear.
6. BA hit on KW’s wife or something and isn’t allowed to play often.
7. Thome is also old and shouldn’t play 1B too often.

Breaking all that down, it sure is nice to have Wise around. While no on could have predicted the exact injuries or slumps that happened this year, planning ahead is what you are supposed to do and it looks like KW did a solid job of this by landing Wise.

"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."

by U-God on Sep 15, 2008 3:14 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well, sure, he's a Big Ten guy.

What do you expect?

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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Sep 15, 2008 3:20 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think he's talking about KW

"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."

by U-God on Sep 15, 2008 3:21 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think you are correct,

but I’d still take it as a compliment.

"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Sep 15, 2008 3:21 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Kind of a backhanded one

and can’t you hate on the Pac-10, ACC, or Big east? they suck

"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."

by U-God on Sep 15, 2008 3:22 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm a Pur-don't guy

Not hating. You are being defensive, sir.

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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Sep 15, 2008 3:25 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

O

Well with all the shit we get from the media and from my non-Big Ten friends, yeah, I slip into defense mode pretty quick.

"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."

by U-God on Sep 15, 2008 3:26 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The Swisher trade doesn't look too hot these days...

Sweeney is almost matching Swisher’s OPS.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Sep 15, 2008 3:22 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

swisher isn't hot in 2008

but i’m still going to wait until next year’s performance before i evaluate the trade. haven’t followed gio much this year, how is he doing?

by onlysoxfaninboston on Sep 15, 2008 3:24 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hopefully, next season...

Swisher will stop whiffing and missing changeups and curveballs by two feet.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Sep 15, 2008 3:34 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you suck at analysis.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Sep 15, 2008 3:35 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

"horribly"

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Sep 15, 2008 3:39 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

in a way that's meaningful to talk about?

i have no idea. i don’t see why it’s relevant. your brain malfunctions any time it runs into a pertinent question, apparently. its next choice inevitably is to spew out some weird seemingly related but actually completely unimportant pointed question. hence Monsignor Non Sequitur.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Sep 15, 2008 3:43 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

maybe if you did a detailed analysis

of his problems with curves and changes last year versus this year, appropriately contexualized them and threw up a fanpost, i might be inclined to give two fucks about the things you say. frame of reference means nothing to you.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Sep 15, 2008 3:54 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What does it matter?

The trade is a bust so far because of Swisher’s performance on its own.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Sep 15, 2008 3:57 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Swisher's performance on his own

are you fucking kidding me?? A trade involved two teams dumbass. You have to analyse the impact of all players involved (on their respective teams) before evaluating.

by onlysoxfaninboston on Sep 15, 2008 4:38 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Neat,

nice hindsight.

Sweeney was also DL’d for quite some while. Man, we sure could have used that, a hurt De Los Santos, and Gio’s sweet 46 ERA+.

"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."

by U-God on Sep 15, 2008 3:28 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

where the hell did this come from?

and seriously. who is going to be the better player next season? holy hell.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Sep 15, 2008 3:35 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

JRE, I forgot your nickname is "Rooster".

In 1976, after Ted Turner — another antiestablishment owner — purchased the Braves, that team became home to some of the most colorful jersey names in baseball. There was Roadrunner (Ralph Garr), Knucksie (Phil Niekro), Cannon (Jimmy Wynn) and Rooster (Jerry Royster).

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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Sep 15, 2008 1:42 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So are you saying that Hawk was 'Wise after the event'?

....fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts

by hoodlight on Sep 15, 2008 1:46 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

nice

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Sep 15, 2008 1:49 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

clever twat ;-)

I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.

by thatshortkid on Sep 15, 2008 1:57 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Mr. Michaels, great recaps. Thank you.

Didn’t have time to post/watch yesterday.

PS What is this “SoxMachine” site of which you (generic "you") are speaking? I must click on it one of these days.

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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Sep 15, 2008 9:54 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

have you heard of the band 'Soft Machine'?

the singer broke his back after falling through a hole whilst tripping on Acid. He’s now in a wheelchair.

regards

....fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts

by hoodlight on Sep 15, 2008 10:03 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

"Don't Do Drugs"...good lesson for the kids.

When I hear those stories I think, “What a dumbass.”

"There will be surgery. It will heal. It will heal fast."- Carlos Quentin on NBC 5 News Chicago (9/5/08)

by tailgater on Sep 15, 2008 10:06 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hey Hey DeWayne!

Hey Hey Rerun!

"There will be surgery. It will heal. It will heal fast."- Carlos Quentin on NBC 5 News Chicago (9/5/08)

by tailgater on Sep 15, 2008 10:06 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'll take a rerun of last night any night the rest of this month.

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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Sep 15, 2008 10:08 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Minus the bullpen

"There will be surgery. It will heal. It will heal fast."- Carlos Quentin on NBC 5 News Chicago (9/5/08)

by tailgater on Sep 15, 2008 10:11 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Screw it, even with the bullpen

as long as they keep winning, I don’t give a fuck.

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Sep 15, 2008 12:45 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Anyone with a quick primer on the Aceves fella we face tonight?

Colin?

//insert joke about it being 10:20 a.m. and colin most certainly not being up yet

by CWSKeith on Sep 15, 2008 10:20 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he's good.

quick enough?

fight like a cat: paws up. - ozzie

by larry on Sep 15, 2008 10:22 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I suppose that'll work, but...

hard-thrower? Soft-tosser with a good change? I’d “do some fucking research” myself but — coincidentally enough — I’m headed to my business law class in about a minute.

by CWSKeith on Sep 15, 2008 10:49 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

fastball in low 90s, cutter, change, curve.

all average to plus.

fight like a cat: paws up. - ozzie

by larry on Sep 15, 2008 10:51 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Is that a 2-hit shutout I smell?

"There will be surgery. It will heal. It will heal fast."- Carlos Quentin on NBC 5 News Chicago (9/5/08)

by tailgater on Sep 15, 2008 11:14 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nope...that smells like Cheetos

"There will be surgery. It will heal. It will heal fast."- Carlos Quentin on NBC 5 News Chicago (9/5/08)

by tailgater on Sep 15, 2008 11:49 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sorry to hear that.

Mine smells like my wife.

AAAAAHHHHHHHHHH. Once a month.

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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Sep 15, 2008 11:51 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

my mate richard

got a gammy lip from licking out a prossie in Bradford, the dirty bastard, it took ages to heal up as well.

regards

....fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts

by hoodlight on Sep 15, 2008 11:53 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   1 recs

Yeah, financial meltdown of the CENTURY and I'm in the sack with the wife.

(I can’t even type the next lie. OK, I showered! GD it, Toonder, I see why Uncle Sugar hired you. I must tell the truth! Happy now? You POS.)

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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Sep 15, 2008 12:32 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's about time

they let one of these banks go bust instead of shovelling tax money at them in a futile attempt to keep them afloat.

....fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts

by hoodlight on Sep 15, 2008 12:38 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

in 2008, shovelling money = Locke's invisible hand

didn’t you get that memo?

tax money used to help bail out the wealthy = good = free market capitalism

tax money used to help non-wealthy = bad = communism

;)

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Sep 15, 2008 12:50 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

fight like a cat: paws up. - ozzie

by larry on Sep 15, 2008 12:53 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So, it's the red M & M's that are taking over this site

good to know. Those bastards are going down!

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Sep 15, 2008 12:56 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I never did get that

is that’s what’s called a paradox?

....fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts

by hoodlight on Sep 15, 2008 12:53 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nope, it's American capitalism

keep lobbing them up there, hoodie!

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Sep 15, 2008 12:57 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm not joking either

We’ve got a bank here ‘Northern Rock’ bailed out to the tune of around 80 billion quid of our tax money, it’s a fucking disgrace

....fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts

by hoodlight on Sep 15, 2008 12:57 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it's is a disgrace, but I see the British gov't been a bit more up front with the people

about social / corporate welfare than the American gov’t.

I’ll end it there so this doesn’t tailspin into a political discussion.

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Sep 15, 2008 12:59 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

reading comprehension is not your strong point, is it?

I’m a columnist, not a communist

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Sep 15, 2008 1:47 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i'm a victim of circumstance.

by Toonderstrook on Sep 15, 2008 2:15 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Exactly!

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Sep 15, 2008 2:24 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You're a "pillar" of the community

"would've been a sweep if pablo was here" -Kenwo-

by Hazymania on Sep 15, 2008 2:25 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Once a month? Good for you!

"There will be surgery. It will heal. It will heal fast."- Carlos Quentin on NBC 5 News Chicago (9/5/08)

by tailgater on Sep 15, 2008 1:02 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He just got called up

so he isn’t in the database as of yet. I’d never even heard of the guy until now.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Sep 15, 2008 11:48 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Liking the matchups

Looking at the 4 game set, this guys is the best we’ll face. Then we get Petitte, Hughes of his 9.00 ERA and Pavano with his 5+ ERA. Going to the game tonight, hope Buerhle tosses another gem and we can spread our lead. Plus, Minny gets Cliff Lee, so we got that going for us, which is nice.

by Shakey on Sep 15, 2008 10:55 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

God will strike Cliff Lee down with a well placed meteorite before He lets him pitch against the Twins

It would risk God being wrong and that goes back to the whole infalliable thing from Dogma… world ending and crap

brndnprkns: I'm pretty sure the "badass" value of your life is closer to Gigli than The Dark Knight

by whitesoxmatt on Sep 15, 2008 11:25 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Pavano left the game yesterday injured, I believe.

"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Sep 15, 2008 11:25 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sweet Mother

That guy is made of glass. Hopefully we’ll get another callup to smack around.

by Shakey on Sep 15, 2008 11:30 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He was booed off the mound in the 6th, IIRC.

"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Sep 15, 2008 11:49 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Troof.

That was funny as hell. No love, no love.

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Sep 15, 2008 1:08 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And it was his left hip, iirc.

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Sep 15, 2008 1:08 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You sure about that?

On ESPN.com it says we’re slated to face Mussina on Thursday.

by CWSKeith on Sep 15, 2008 12:20 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

probably looking at mlb probables.

http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/news/probable_pitchers.jsp?c_id=cws

mussina would be thursday. pavano pitched yesterday and, even if he weren’t hurt, he sure wouldn’t be coming back on short rest.

fight like a cat: paws up. - ozzie

by larry on Sep 15, 2008 12:26 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Paul Konerko (7 DXL)
It’s taking a bit longer than any of us expected to get Konerko back on the field. The Sox have taken the long view and been very conservative with him. He’s expected to return on Monday weather permitting, but even then, sources tell me that the Sox are planning on giving him more offdays, especially if they’re able to clinch a playoff spot. Konerko shouldn’t have any problems playing with the knee in terms of risking further damage. The concern is how the knee will respond to playing—the possible onset of any swelling or pain—and whether the bracing he’ll need will limit his mobility. The knee will likely not need off-season surgery; MCLs are not normally repaired since there are adequate secondary stabilizers in most cases.

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=8076

fight like a cat: paws up. - ozzie

by larry on Sep 15, 2008 11:39 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

"and whether the bracing he’ll need will limit his mobility."

Because if you take Konerko’s speed out of his game, really, what does he have left?

White Sox, that’s baseball.

by vince_ on Sep 15, 2008 4:32 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Matchup: White Sox (83-65) at Yankees (79-70), 7:05 p.m. ET
Probable Starters: Mark Buehrle (192 2/3 IP, 4.53 RA, 1.33 WHIP, 123 K) vs. Alfredo Aceves (14, 1.29, 0.86, 9)
Pythagorean Record: Chicago, 83-65 (747 RS, 655 RA); New York, 78-71 (719 RS, 686 RA)
Hit List Rankings: Chicago, #6; New York, #10
Prospectus: New York welcomes the White Sox into Yankee Stadium for the final time tonight, the start of the second-to-last series that will ever played in the venerable old ballpark. Even though the Yankees won’t be sending the House that Ruth Built out with any playoff games, they have managed to summon the old legends during this final homestand. Derek Jeter went 3-for-4 in yesterday’s victory over the Rays to tie Lou Gehrig for the most hits at Yankee Stadium, 1,269 in all, although he still stands 191 hits behind the Iron Horse for the all-time franchise mark. Alex Rodriguez contributed to Sunday’s win as well, hitting a grand slam, the 17th of his career. Only Manny Ramirez has more among active players, with 20; Gehrig owns the all-time mark, with 23. The long ball was the 34th of the season for A-Rod, and one more will give him a 12th season with 35 or more, moving