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Ozzie Guillen's Quick Hook Costs Sox

It says a lot about the year Ozzie Guillen is having as a manager that I don't think I have complained loudly about his decision making in a single recap this season. I might have voiced a difference of opinion on occasion, but until tonight, the most egregious decision I've seen from Guillen was over the use of Pablo Ozuna, whose presence alone was questionable. Perhaps I've mellowed, or perhaps, Guillen should be in contention for manager of the year honors. (He's not. The award already has Joe Maddon's name engraved on it.)

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This is going to be one of those entries. Ozzie's decision to turn to Ehren Wasserman and Horacio Ramirez in the 7th inning was the defining moment of the game. While he didn't guarantee a Sox loss with the move, it set into motion a series of events that made a White Sox victory extremely unlikely.

I didn't listen to Ozzie's post-game press conference--I switched the TV immediately to Monday Night Football--so I don't know what his rationale was for turning to double barreled suck, as 3e8 put it, out of the bullpen in the 7th. Buehrle was only at 101 pitches through 6. Based on my best estimate of the Sox rotation picture, he only has 2 guaranteed starts remaining (@ KC & @ MIN), with the possibility of throwing on short rest in the makeup game with Detroit.

I'm not even going try to make the argument that Ozzie turned to the wrong reliever, because let's face it, they've all been various degrees of terrible lately. Though I have to admit after Mike MacDougal failed to appear in Sunday's doubleheader, I thought Monday would be a good opportunity to roll the dice by giving him some high-leverage work. I'm simply going to ask this; how bad does Mark Buehrle have to be feeling, how many runs does he have to give up, how many pitches does he have to throw to make the decision to pull him in favor of Wasserez?

Wait. Don't answer too fast. Keep in mind that there are (12 or) 13 games remaining on the season, and that a run here in the 7th all but guarantees your offense will have to face the two-headed monster of Joba Chamberlain and Mariano Rivera for the final 6 outs. Don't forget Wasserman entered the game with a WHIP of 2.05, and Ramirez has been even worse (2.23) while in Chicago. Oh, and Buehrle has thrown over 110 pitches 42 times (only 2 this year) with Guillen as his manager, so there's a precedent for letting him work a high pitch count.

If ever there was a reason to ride your starter deep into a game, this was it. The entire complexion of the game changes if the Sox are able to get out of the bottom of the 7th unscathed. I'm not quite sure of the bullpen tendencies of Joe Girardi, but I have to believe he'd be much less inclined to turn to the Joba-Mo tandem in a tie game, even though that would be the right call.

I could go on and on about the suck that is the White Sox bullpen right now, and especially Ramirez, whom I greeted to the south side noting his special variety of suck, but I'm not a masochist. If the Sox are going to win this division, it's going to be on the strength of it's starters, with some strong performances by the offense (You're doing great Dewayne.) and maybe a surprise arm out of the bullpen (I'm still looking at you, MacDougal.). Now is not the time to count on the bullpen, let alone the back of the bullpen, late in a tie game.

I missed the first 5 innings of the game, so if it seems like this recap focused only on Ozzie's bullpen management, it's because that was the game for me.

Staters Games w/ 110+ pitches

Year Games
2004 53
2005 37
2006 40
2007 36
2008 13

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I was about to post this as a comment, but it's too important to the discussion at hand to hide from our RSS readers or those who don't bother to venture deeper than the front page. Ozzie Guillen has become more dependent on his bullpen in his tenure as White Sox manager. He used to let his pitchers get over 100 pitches regularly, but rarely let them top 115, and almost never 120. Now 100 is the rarity, with 110 being the "almost never." It's quite obvious that he Sox would be a better team right now if he reverted to his '04-'07 hook.

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Excellente, Senor Christopher Michaels.

Everyone get down on their knees tonight.........

and say a little (or maybe a medium sized) prayer for the Sox bullpen. Call in some chits.

by ballyb on Sep 15, 2008 11:20 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

2008 pen usage....

I have to think part of the reason for the precipitous drop this year is protecting Danks and Floyd (and Contreras to some extent). That actually just underscores that Buehrle should have stayed in the game.

Moreover, how can Ozzie throw “double-barreled suck” out there at this point in the season? I’ve liked Wasserman (you know…last year) but he’s shown he shouldn’t be pitching now. If Ozzie wants to gamble, I think MacDougal & Richard should be his mid-inning L/R duo. I’d rather not see them much either. But Mac hasn’t sucked completely in the last week and I think Richard could probably get a lefty or two out pitching from the pen.

Taking a step back, I have trouble getting too angry. With Contreras, Crede, Konerko, and Q out and Linebrink still hurting it will obviously be…unexpected…if the Sox manage to win Central. Sheesh. 14 games to go….

by hitlesswonder on Sep 15, 2008 11:50 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

14?

you’re planning on playing 163?

by Christopher Michaels on Sep 16, 2008 12:02 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

not outside the realm of possibility

I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.

by thatshortkid on Sep 16, 2008 12:27 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

what bally said.

last night yanking danks was the right call; tonight, aside from mb begging out of the game or somebody noticed an injury issue, removing buehrle was indefensible.

three cheers for wu, the all-time leader in opos+.

by Toonderstrook on Sep 15, 2008 11:56 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Linebrink and Dotel were signed with the new usage in mind

I have to think this is a systematic move from the top down. There’s probably some significant evidence that the Sox are acting on to make this change.

Or, I suppose, it could be random.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Sep 16, 2008 12:18 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't know if I'm just at a point where I'm too indifferent, but...

I didn’t really have a problem with him pulling Buehrle. With the situation the Sox are in (only having four good starters and still needing that fifth guy for a game, maybe two), Ozzie’s gotta balance walk a fine line between keeping the starters (somewhat) fresh so he has the option of bringing them back a day early and handing the ball off to the shaky bullpen.

My disagreement came with going to Wassermann rather than MacDougal to start the seventh. At this point MacDougal is throwing the ball better than any right-hander in the bullpen. If his past is any indication this may or may not last for a long time so I’d like to see MacDougal put in some higher leverage situations while he’s actually hitting the strike zone.

And I have to admit some channeling some my inner SSH and yelling at the TV in the first inning when OC was caught stealing. Cripes, man, you have your 3 and 4 hitters coming up, and — especially considering the Sox have had so much trouble scoring runs — the reward isn’t close to being worth the risk.

I will say though that at this point, any day in which we shave a game off the magic number is quite alright. It may be a stumble to the finish but flying a flag at season’s end (regardless of what happens in the playoffs) would be very satisfying and would be a nice accomplishment for the organization.

by CWSKeith on Sep 16, 2008 1:17 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Interesting to hear the response here

As I am sort of in the same boat. With everything that went on last season, where this team was on September 16th, 2007, I just can’t get too upset down the stretch here. Sox are a great pennant race, and it’s hard to ask for much more. The future looks a lot brighter than it did last year, and this division is probably locked up if Linebrink is healthy all season, and Crede had his back hold out.

Lets shave off a few digits from that magic number tomorrow.

by Tony82087 on Sep 16, 2008 1:32 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Bullpen? What bullpen?

I was at the game, and the 7th started and out trotted Wasserman, I turned to the people around me and said there goes the game. 2 Rows in front more sox fans, threw up their hands in disgust and yelled ‘why don’t we just give it away’. Also, here should be a rule of any GM never to take on a pitcher from Kansas City. They’re bred to lose.

by Shakey on Sep 16, 2008 7:23 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

So where is this Kansas City labratory

where they’re creating pitchers with nasty stuff but don’t know how to win? And who is in charge of the breeding? If your a pitcher that wasn’t bred in the KC genetics lab but then are sent there, do they then take control of your mind and brainwash you to become like them? I have so many questions.

by El Duque's Raft on Sep 16, 2008 8:39 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

answers

in the farm system, bo jackson, yes. anymore?

by Shakey on Sep 16, 2008 9:02 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He pitched in the Mexican Baseball League

they worked hard on his mental fitness, preventing the brain washing

"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."

by U-God on Sep 16, 2008 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wonder if Ozzie was surprised to see MB still effective?

maybe Game 1 was a throwaway (we’re lousy on the road this year, as is MB, save the arms for Minny, just played a late doubleheader, and it’s our first game of the road trip, the Yankees starter was someone we generally would not hit, their bullpen is terrific and ours sucks, etc.). Awful if that were even considered, but Waterman and HorribleRam coming in first looked like a “what will be, will be” effort by Ozzie.

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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Sep 16, 2008 7:55 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."

by U-God on Sep 16, 2008 8:39 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I didn't understand the move at all...

Save the bum relievers for when the Sox are losing big in a game or two of this series because you know it’s going to happen.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Sep 16, 2008 10:04 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The problem is...

aside from Jenks and Thornton, the Sox don’t have any non-bum relievers.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on Sep 16, 2008 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

MacDougal isn't any great shakes either...

but I’d rather see him in there over Wassermann and Ramirez, just based on stuff alone. Don’t throw him in there when the true bums have already choked up the lead.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Sep 16, 2008 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

brian anderson would've caught that...

by BuehrleMan on Sep 16, 2008 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i think 82% of clowns are molesters

just by random sampling as a kid.

by Trooper on Sep 16, 2008 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh dear.

fight like a cat: paws up. - ozzie

by larry on Sep 16, 2008 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

analysis too pedestrian?

three cheers for wu, the all-time leader in opos+.

by Toonderstrook on Sep 16, 2008 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

too personal.

fight like a cat: paws up. - ozzie

by larry on Sep 16, 2008 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You were molesting people even as a kid?

I knew you were sick, Trooper, but this…

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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Sep 16, 2008 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i used to screw around on the metra tracks off of foster and nw highway

me and another kid, it was our hangout. we never questioned why there were chairs up there. the last time we went there we were pissed that some homeless dude had moved in on our territory.

by Trooper on Sep 16, 2008 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Have you guys seen those new e-trade commericals with the talking baby (first creepy mistake)?

The first time I ever saw it, I said within the first 10 seconds of talking baby, “Shit, this is creepy.” There was a clown making balloon animals in the background of the baby’s room. icky.
At the end of the commerical, the baby says, “I hired a clown,” or something, and then, “I didn’t realize it was going to be so creepy.”

That line redeemed the commercial for me.

The most recent one I saw, the baby is talking and talking, creepy creepy creepy, and then after he “trades,” he just throws up.

It’s fucking disgusting.

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Sep 16, 2008 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

those commercials are hilarious!

i still like the first one from the super bowl where he’s got the girl calling him. yeah, clowns are creepy, but that kid is the best thing since those kung-fu hamsters.

by Trooper on Sep 16, 2008 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's been on at least since the Super Bowl this year. Where have you been?

“I really underestimated the creepiness” is the line, I believe.

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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Sep 16, 2008 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow. Just saw them last week for the first time...

I don’t actually watch tv.

The games are on mlbtv, so I only gots the albino guy.

Didn’t watch the Superbowl….

outta the loop.

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Sep 16, 2008 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

(crickets)

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Sep 16, 2008 10:42 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

here are some pettitte numbers i found interesting
  • in his last 4 starts over 22.7 IP he has allowed 36 hits and 6 walks
  • ERA before ASB 4.03— after ASB 5.43
  • career BAA/OPS vs RHB .271/.728, vs LHB .271/.712
  • 2008 BAA/OPS vs RHB .323/.843, vs LHB .207/.542
  • sox batters with an OPS over .900 vs pettitte— AJ, griffey, konerko, owens, swisher, ocab(ocab, swish and owens with 6 or fewer ABs) dye has an OPS of .893.
  • of any player to bat against pettitte, scott podsenik has the 3rd highest OPS at 3.333. (brad eldred is 5th at 2.667)
  • harold baines has more ABs aginst pettitte than joe crede
  • horacio ramirez has a 1.000 OPS against pettitte

brian anderson would've caught that...

by BuehrleMan on Sep 16, 2008 10:57 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Gotta win tonight...

The Twins have Liriano goes against 0-3 Zach Jackson.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Sep 16, 2008 11:14 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

liriano sucks...no slider.

three cheers for wu, the all-time leader in opos+.

by Toonderstrook on Sep 16, 2008 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If the Sox can win the next two games...

They can probably get a 2.5 game lead. The Twins will probably win tonight but lose tomorrow against Cliff Lee.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Sep 16, 2008 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Here I thought I was being rational, reasonable, and positive...

Guess not.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Sep 16, 2008 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

actually i thought that was a pretty good point

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Sep 16, 2008 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lance Broadway @ Phil Hughes tomorrow should be interesting though...

I doubt anyone wants to see the porn star facing the Yankees’ lineup.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Sep 16, 2008 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

agreed

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Sep 16, 2008 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Liriano isn't a lock - remember last week's prediction? -

but the odds are you are correct.

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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Sep 16, 2008 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ozzie is right though...

The Sox just need to win and shouldn’t have to be worrying about the Twins losing, even though it is a nice side benefit.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Sep 16, 2008 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Isn't that what the OPOS here has been saying?

Win and the rest takes care of itself. It’s be great to have a 3+ lead on the Twinkerbells in Minny.

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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Sep 16, 2008 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

thank you for the lack of absolutism

i might have made up a word, but it does help to get your point across by just using the word probably

brndnprkns: I'm pretty sure the "badass" value of your life is closer to Gigli than The Dark Knight

by whitesoxmatt on Sep 16, 2008 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

pick one:

boosh.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Sep 16, 2008 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

good one, hoodie!

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Sep 16, 2008 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You looney Brit!

:)

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Sep 16, 2008 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rec'd.

You have taken long enough to get creative. Better late than never, mate!

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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Sep 16, 2008 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great quote by Ozzie...

Link:

“We have to win,” Guillen said after the Sox’s shortcomings resurfaced in a 4-2 loss to the Yankees. “We don’t have to hope for somebody to beat Minnesota.”

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Sep 16, 2008 1:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

And another...
There was a twinkle in Guillen’s eye as he continued to joke about whether the Sox could make one last push away from Minnesota and win the division with 13 games left.

“Those little piranhas are out of teeth now,” quipped Guillen, referring to the nickname he gave the Twins two years ago for their pesky style. "I got the feeling they don’t have any teeth left. They’ve been fighting and grinding all year long. They should have little teeth now.

“It’s time for us to pull them out and win it. Hopefully we stay in the pennant race.”

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Sep 16, 2008 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I LIKE THIS

In response to this thread . . . .

“I don’t want to lose confidence in those guys, but they have to do it,” said Guillen, who is forced to lean on his relievers while opting for a four-man rotation down the stretch. “If I get paid by each visit to the mound, I won’t need a salary.”

by Option27 on Sep 16, 2008 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tonight's starters -- Jesse is BACK!!!
The offense should be fortified Tuesday by the expected return of Paul Konerko from a strained right knee ligament. And Guillen plans to rest Ken Griffey Jr., who made three exceptional plays in center, and Nick Swisher on Tuesday and play Jerry Owens and Brian Anderson in an attempt to generate more offense against left-hander Andy Pettitte.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Sep 16, 2008 1:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

So tonight's lineup is probably something like this?

SS Cabrera
CF Anderson
RF Dye
DH Thome
1B Konerko
2B Ramirez
3B Uribe
C Hall
LF Owens

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Sep 16, 2008 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

thats a thing of beauty

brndnprkns: I'm pretty sure the "badass" value of your life is closer to Gigli than The Dark Knight

by whitesoxmatt on Sep 16, 2008 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, Griffey is absolutely pathetic against lefties so I don't mind seeing him benched tonight...

At least the outfield defense should be good. And Jerry Owens has a 2.000 OPS against lefties this season, haha.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Sep 16, 2008 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

griffey is 17 for 50 with a .941 OPS against pettitte

thome is 6 for 25 with a .641 OPS.

brian anderson would've caught that...

by BuehrleMan on Sep 16, 2008 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hmmm...

Looks like Griffey at DH with Thome sitting might be the best option. Although, Griffey definitely ain’t the player he was when he was raking Pettitte.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Sep 16, 2008 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i think griffey has had some decent ABs lately

but i wish he would stop posing after he hits a double to the gap or flies out to medium deep center.

brian anderson would've caught that...

by BuehrleMan on Sep 16, 2008 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

and thome has been better this year against lefties

with a .906 OPS vs a career .766

brndnprkns: I'm pretty sure the "badass" value of your life is closer to Gigli than The Dark Knight

by whitesoxmatt on Sep 16, 2008 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't understand Owens starting...

He’s another lefty and he has no chance to steal any bases against Pettitte (although this is probably a good thing).

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Sep 16, 2008 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Swish needs a week off.

Hasn’t there been enough carping about backwards "K"’s and called 3rd strikes? And his footwork and throwing at 1B have not been especially stellar. I have no prob sitting him.

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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Sep 16, 2008 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Glorious!

Uribe whispered, "My precious child, I love you and will never leave you, never, ever, during your trials and testings. When you saw only one set of footprints, It was then that I carried you."

by thecip on Sep 16, 2008 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lookin' good, lookin' good.

SSH, you are the bearer of great news….

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Sep 16, 2008 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

....as always.

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Sep 16, 2008 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

quantifying what you already knew
Accounting for the base-out situations which they’ve inherited and bequeathed, White Sox relievers have allowed in excess of six runs per nine innings in the second half, the third-worst mark in the majors. Bobby Jenks (3.22 FRA in the second half) and Carrasco (3.42) have been solid, but Dotel (7.14), Matt Thorton (5.26), and Logan (18.80, albeit in just nine innings) appear to be dousing themselves in gasoline as part of their regular warm-up routines.

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=8082

fight like a cat: paws up. - ozzie

by larry on Sep 16, 2008 1:44 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

ouch

i saw that one coming but it still stings when you see it quantified.

by onlysoxfaninboston on Sep 16, 2008 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

BTW, this thread (except for hoodie) blows chunks, me included.

Everyone asleep today, or has the big, bad bear depressed everyone?

(Or is it our starting lineup? Either way, WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Sep 16, 2008 2:41 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The Waterman looks like he'd just had a colorectal exam.

Horrible-Ram looks like he just did it.

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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Sep 16, 2008 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

he's got a point

nice play, WU

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Sep 16, 2008 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you are on fire today

"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."

by U-God on Sep 16, 2008 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That is why I (cricketed) earlier.

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Sep 16, 2008 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

A-Rod to the White Sox?

I noticed that the numb-nut Yankees fans boo A-Rod when they aren’t happy with him.

If he’s so awful, I’d like to suggest trading Juan for him straight up.

"There will be surgery. It will heal. It will heal fast."- Carlos Quentin on NBC 5 News Chicago (9/5/08)

by tailgater on Sep 16, 2008 3:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The Sox would never pick up his contract...

Remember when Reinsdorf wanted to personally talk to A-Rod without Boras around? But maybe he can lure A-Rod here with Benny the Bull.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Sep 16, 2008 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for picking up the slack

with my usual surfing time today spent avoiding the dullness that is this thread, I ventured over to Don Guillote’s adventures earlier in the day and, to my dismay, noticed that there were several pieces that hadn’t been fanshotted (nice verb, hoser).

Of course, I did nothing to help the situation and thus thank you, HSA, for doing the community yet another valuable service.

Three cheers for HSA, the greatest port slut around SSS today!

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Sep 16, 2008 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

hip hip hoooray!

oh wait, I’m not supposed to cheer for me.

I think I’ve posted all of the ones that have gone by since Wiz’s passing, and haven’t been posted by others…
I keep up with that.

Oh, and glad you liked my verb. I thought someone might appreciate the past verb tense of fanshot, a word that doesn’t even exist in its root form.

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Sep 16, 2008 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought the usage was excellent

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Sep 16, 2008 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

since it is dead around here and I know kenwo will appreciate it, I will post one of his finest comments from the Reifert blog

Ozzie’s cavalcade of corkscrew bullpen sucked grapefruits again. Ehren Wasserman and Ramirez are worse than some little leaguers. This situation needs to be rectified or we will not make the postseason.
By kenwo4life@aol.com on September 15, 2008 10:12 PM

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Sep 16, 2008 4:46 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

4life means forever, bitch.

three cheers for wu, the all-time leader in opos+.

by Toonderstrook on Sep 16, 2008 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And no one can say Kenwo doesn't know Little Leaguers.

I think you know what I am sayin’.

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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Sep 16, 2008 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

5 championships, 4 in a row

that’s more in a row than MJ, so you better respect.

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Sep 16, 2008 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And get your mind out of the gutter, you OPOS!

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Sep 16, 2008 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kenwo

IS
Little League.

That league hasn’t been the same since Kenwo.

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Sep 16, 2008 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

well then, hello to you Toonder as well...slut

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Sep 16, 2008 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Man, if you took away both coasts' comments today

there’d be about 5 posts. WTF is going on in the Midwest today? THERE’S A GAME IN AN HOUR! IT’S AGAINST THE YANKEES! WE’RE IN FIRST PLACE IN SEPTEMBER! WTF?!

REFUND?!

"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Sep 16, 2008 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

there's a game today?

but seriously WU, not enough interesting stuff to talk about. also, too bust trying to find a sub for work tonight so i can go play 16" softball. no such luck.

"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."

by U-God on Sep 16, 2008 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yankees?

Never heard of ’em.

by ReservoirDog on Sep 16, 2008 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

well, the midwest has lost 1 (which means a gain for the coast)

As I’m packing up from school and back from a birthday hiatus to Madison

by jeeves on Sep 16, 2008 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

west coast sox fans are the best.

three cheers for wu, the all-time leader in opos+.

by Toonderstrook on Sep 16, 2008 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

seconded.

I was holding up the Pac NW fort today, as always.

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Sep 16, 2008 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

thirded

oh look, another sunny day in the low 80’s

I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.

by thatshortkid on Sep 16, 2008 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know - I have watched all of the last month of baseball outside, in the sunset, admiring the Cascades.

It’s coming to an end here in Sea-town at least….

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Sep 16, 2008 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

fannies - great big hairy ones

good, now I have your attention can someone be so kind as to post tonight’s lineup.

many thanks

....fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts

by hoodlight on Sep 16, 2008 5:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

ssh did above...hours ago.

three cheers for wu, the all-time leader in opos+.

by Toonderstrook on Sep 16, 2008 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

it would have been just as easy to cut and paste then

I can’t be arsed reading all that bollocks above, I ask a question, I want fucking answers

....fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts

by hoodlight on Sep 16, 2008 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I did answer that question

at least I think I did my old pal. But I guess Timothy Taylors is the best, I can drink it till it comes out of my ears

link

....fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts

by hoodlight on Sep 16, 2008 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

which in particular? or all equally fantastic?

three cheers for wu, the all-time leader in opos+.

by Toonderstrook on Sep 16, 2008 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

the best bitter is the best

to me anyway, Landlord is the most popular. I very much doubt you’d get it in the states, it goes off after about a week and if they were shipping it over there they would probably send you all the shit anyway. I guess it’s like having a burger in england, will never be the same as in the states, well it’s the same with the beer, you want it good, get yourself over here, to the north of england.

....fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts

by hoodlight on Sep 16, 2008 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

and how about a pint i can get in the states?

three cheers for wu, the all-time leader in opos+.

by Toonderstrook on Sep 16, 2008 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice sig, POS.

But a great crossword.

"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Sep 16, 2008 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That lineup was not official...

I was just guessing.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Sep 16, 2008 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

general soreness can has cleanup? yikes.

three cheers for wu, the all-time leader in opos+.

by Toonderstrook on Sep 16, 2008 5:19 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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