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Gavin Floyd Has Big Hairy Balls

It's rare that you get to watch a pitcher grow up right in front of your eyes, and even rarer when you can pin point the exact at-bat when he goes from boy, an oft-maligned headcase with good stuff and no idea what to do with it, to man, an incredibly confident complete pitcher who refuses to give in to one of the game's best. In the 5th inning Tuesday night, Gavin Floyd became a man, a real major league pitcher you'd send to the mound with confidence in a playoff game. Ozzie agrees:

"I think that's when this kid starts to be a man now," said White Sox manager Ozzie Guillen of Floyd fanning Giambi to end one of the Yankees' biggest threats on Tuesday. "He never gave up or gave in."

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Gavin Floyd needed to work deep into this game. The bullpen is a mess and Ozzie knows it. With only 13 games left, the 4 (real) starters need to head to the mound for 100 pitches, and then run back out there for another inning. So, when Floyd found himself in trouble in the 5th inning--the bases loaded, Jason Giambi, who had just launched a moonshot in his last at-bat, strolling to the mound--it wasn't looking good for the Sox or their beleaguered 4th starter.

But Floyd didn't waver. He didn't back down, even when he dug himself a 2-0 hole. He battled back to even up the count at two, before throwing pitch #6 of the at-bat for ball three.

It's at this point the old Floyd--I'm not even talking about the Philly Floyd, the one who was referred to as "she" by members of the media and lacked so much confidence that he responded to all of his interviewers by staring at their feet and mumbling, but the Chicago Floyd, who would look you in the eye when he spoke, but was still so sure that he wouldn't win even 12 games that he bet his hair on it--would have given in; either missing the strike zone badly and walking in a run or grooving a mistake pitch, as he had on 3-2 to Giambi in his previous at-bat.

So, on 3-2, bases loaded, Sox up by 2, Floyd and Giambi waged a battle in which neither was willing to blink. For 6 straight pitches, with the runners in motion getting huge jumps--a single might have scored all three--Floyd threw strikes, good strikes, to Giambi and challenged him to do something with them.

Slider; foul. Slider; foul. Slider; foul. Changeup; foul. Fastball; foul. Slider; STRIKEOUT!

Floyd's 12th pitch of the at-bat was his best, a slider that I thought was a changeup while watching it live, breaking straight down out of the zone. Giambi was out in front, guessing fastball.

But Floyd wasn't done there. The Sox still needed him to get deep into the game despite his now elevated pitch count. He breezed through the 6th after the offense had a quick 1-2-3 top-half. Ozzie sent Floyd back out for the 7th even though he had thrown 97 pitches, and he promptly gave up a 400-foot ground-rule double to Brett Gardner. Normally, this is where Ozzie would jump out of the dugout and yank his young starter, but with the pen in a sorry state, and after that Giambi at-bat, Ozzie was giving him some extra rope. He needed another 12 pitches to get Johnny Damon and Derek Jeter to line out to second, before Ozzie popped out of the dugout.

Matt Thornton, the lone seemingly reliable reliever in the Sox pen was warm. Floyd was at 112 pitches, and had left-hander Bobby Abreu coming to the plate. I wouldn't have complained in the slightest if Ozzie pulled Floyd there. But when Ozzie got to the mound, Floyd sent him back. He was going to finish this inning; 4 pitches later he did on a fly out to center.

Gavin Floyd has balls; big, hairy balls that would put even Cisco Adler's* to shame.

* Go ahead, look it up. But be forewarned, the results of your search will not be pretty.

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Awesome

maybe the best recap of the year and really captures the moment.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Sep 17, 2008 12:57 AM CDT   0 recs

Colin,

after reading the recap, before looking at the posts, I’m writing -

“Best recap of the year.” BMTI.

But Cheat, you pretty much always get to the kernel. I always enjoy what you write and I can’t begin to tell you how much I’ve learned about the Sox (and baseball) from you.

Thanks.

Everyone get down on their knees tonight.........

and say a little (or maybe a medium sized) prayer for the Sox bullpen. Call in some chits.

by ballyb on Sep 17, 2008 7:06 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

confusionville

From your comment, is Christopher Michaels a new handle for The Cheat? If not, where is The Cheat?

I was at a crowded bar watching the game and half-mindedly playing a trivia game. i saw the whole at-bat and I got the same feeling then even though I didn’t have the full context of the game. Seeing the score and knowing the bullpen is gassed made it clear that Floyd needed to go deep and keep the lead in this game.

by FAQ on Sep 17, 2008 8:26 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

"bullpen is gassed"

I wish that was the problem.

Everyone get down on their knees tonight.........

and say a little (or maybe a medium sized) prayer for the Sox bullpen. Call in some chits.

by ballyb on Sep 17, 2008 9:14 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Suck up.

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Sep 17, 2008 1:19 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Agreed.

But whatthehell, bally is back to posting, and I’ll take that.

"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Sep 17, 2008 1:37 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Dude's balls are saggier than winningugly's...

Don’t ask me why I know this.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Sep 17, 2008 1:00 AM CDT   0 recs

or I could ask....

why do you know this?

I wish he was in my fantasy league. id bury that cocksucker- KenWo4Life

by Hawk is God on Sep 17, 2008 1:40 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I was duped

And looked it up. Mistake. But, if you’re so inclined then click here.

by FAQ on Sep 17, 2008 8:27 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

It looked to me like Floyd didn't have a good feel for his curveball yesterday...

which makes his outing all the more impressive.

The Floyd-Giambi battle was awesome and one of the many reasons I love baseball oh so much. Giambi rips the 2-0 pitch about 350+ feet and yet — on the very next pitch — Floyd throws the same fastball, catching the inside half of the plate and evening up the count at 2-2. What a great moment.

I recall Garland having a similar “he’s a big boy now!” moment versus the Orioles in 2005. It was a close game in the 7th inning and Garland had an epic battle against Miguel Tejada, finally getting Tejada to swing and miss on a sinker (or changeup) down-and-in.

Also, +1 for the “balls” tag. For comedy’s sake I certainly hope that’s not the last time we see it.

by CWSKeith on Sep 17, 2008 1:10 AM CDT   0 recs

Last weekend we had a "mother nature is a cunt" tag

And here’s the Garland game to which you’re referring. I was gonna link it, but I wanted this post to be just about Gavin.

by Christopher Michaels on Sep 17, 2008 1:17 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

ah, the memories

that may have been one of the first posts i read here. your recaps were my crack.

by Trooper on Sep 17, 2008 1:24 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

have you moved on up

to real crack now? I highly recommend it.

…can I get a rock?

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Sep 17, 2008 1:35 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Wow

The days of the three comment recaps!

"would've been a sweep if pablo was here" -Kenwo-

by Hazymania on Sep 17, 2008 10:51 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I was thinking exactly the same thing about that Garland AB

Though that was more of a “he’s not really this good, is he? wow, maybe he is” and early in the season. I definitely give Floyd the BiggerBalls award for the atmosphere.

by Trooper on Sep 17, 2008 1:20 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

ha i remember that pitch

and i believe it was a 3-2 changeup

by Jbasic89 on Sep 17, 2008 1:24 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

didn't see this ^

"term: pussy, user: larry, count: 11

term: pussy, user: all, count: 83" - wiz

by Where Triples Go to Die on Sep 17, 2008 1:38 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

3-2 changeup

"term: pussy, user: larry, count: 11

term: pussy, user: all, count: 83" - wiz

by Where Triples Go to Die on Sep 17, 2008 1:37 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

THat swing and miss of Tejada was 2005 for me

when I think of that world series year, that is the first image. Such an awesome moment.

Lurking since 2006

by boyonthedock on Sep 17, 2008 3:07 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

it's always about you, isn't it, toonder?

;)

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Sep 17, 2008 3:20 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

The more things change...

"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Sep 17, 2008 3:22 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

word

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Sep 17, 2008 3:25 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

All over again. Read into it what you will, Yogi.

"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Sep 17, 2008 3:28 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I was not a poster then, and neither were most of you.

3 comments? One about Ron Santo? And some guy named “shaftr”? The site has less traffic than SoxMachine, fer Chrissakes.

"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Sep 17, 2008 3:20 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

off topic

To preface, I am a fantasy owner who was lucky enough to draft Brady. I am being offered Jericho Cotchery and Kurt Warner for Steve Smith (Panthers). My QB right now is JT O’sullivan. I have M. Harrison, Lee Evans, David Patten. Do I pull the trigger?

"term: pussy, user: larry, count: 11

term: pussy, user: all, count: 83" - wiz

by Where Triples Go to Die on Sep 17, 2008 1:41 AM CDT   0 recs

absolutely

are you insane? how could you not???

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Sep 17, 2008 1:46 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Patten would become his fourth

"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."

by U-God on Sep 17, 2008 8:07 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Oops, yeah I'm stupid...

But yeah, his top three WR’s ( Harrison, Evans, and Cotchery ) would still be good enough to make it worth giving up Steve Smith to upgrade from O’Sullivan to Warner at QB.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Sep 17, 2008 8:13 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I think so too

(not about the stupid part)

(on this)

"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."

by U-God on Sep 17, 2008 8:30 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

But I guess, before I made the trade...

I would want to know what QB’s are available on his waiver wire.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Sep 17, 2008 8:33 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

True

I could see Cotchery having a big year this year though

"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."

by U-God on Sep 17, 2008 12:12 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Easy there Tex.

Do you get 6 points or 4 for a TD? It matters. I love Warner but he is not likely to play a whole season and a O’sullivan paired with another another QB might be decent. Smith is a stud when a healthy Delhomme is qbing.

Im not resold on Harrison yet and Evans and Patten will be decent but inconsistent.

The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.

by Tdogg on Sep 17, 2008 7:51 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

6 points for a td regardless of position.

Warner is very intriguing considering the targets he has to throw to. JT will probably be throwing an awful lot this year playing catch-up and he could be that guy who comes out of nowhere. JT also looked good with his back up against the wall this past weekend. The Cardinals could win 9 games playing in that piss poor division. The next best QB option would be Chad Pennington. As far as ozzie goes, Lee Evans will end up being a stud for me this year. Harrison WILL start getting targeted more. I am not worried about them. Cotchery could be a HUGE sleeper considering Favre and Coles are not on the same page. Favre seems to target 1 guy and get him the ball all season ala Greg Jennings :) last year. Is it worth the risk of getting rid of a top 10 fantasy contributor for 2 top 20 guys. One more point. O’sullivan will face some piss poor pass defenses the next 2 weeks… Q HELP ME!

"term: pussy, user: larry, count: 11

term: pussy, user: all, count: 83" - wiz

by Where Triples Go to Die on Sep 17, 2008 4:06 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

and currently JT is actually rated higher than Warner

on www.profootballweekly.com

"term: pussy, user: larry, count: 11

term: pussy, user: all, count: 83" - wiz

by Where Triples Go to Die on Sep 17, 2008 4:08 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

You're a fool for having both Lee Evans and Marvin as starting WRs in the first place

If anything, try and dump Harrison (the Colts look awful and Gonzales is slowly taking catches away from him) for something of value. If not, then accept that trade fa sho. Cotchery is way underrated.

"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"

by Ozzie Montana on Sep 17, 2008 11:22 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Well who knew that Marvin would bounce back?

Lee Evans came on extremely strong last year. I passed on Jennings thinking he would be the same with out favre. If I had a cristobal I would have known not to draft brady either.:/

"term: pussy, user: larry, count: 11

term: pussy, user: all, count: 83" - wiz

by Where Triples Go to Die on Sep 17, 2008 4:26 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

would not *

"term: pussy, user: larry, count: 11

term: pussy, user: all, count: 83" - wiz

by Where Triples Go to Die on Sep 17, 2008 4:26 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Not to get all Matthew Berry

But the odds of Brady having such another insane year were pretty slim (though I would have picked him were I in the 5-7 range). He was probably going to have another great year, probably the best fantasy QB, but the difference between him and Romo or Brees wouldn’t have been that astronomical.

"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"

by Ozzie Montana on Sep 17, 2008 10:07 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

That's what I figured as well...

which is why I waited and grabbed Brees later. It has paid off so far.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Sep 17, 2008 11:22 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

concur

Floyd’s got the biggest balls of them all

I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.

by thatshortkid on Sep 17, 2008 2:56 AM CDT   0 recs

Floyd

Great post. This was my exact point a few days ago in regards to the starting pitching. Danks has to step up and do the same. Its money time.

The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.

by Tdogg on Sep 17, 2008 7:52 AM CDT   0 recs

Good thing...

that Floyd had a good night last night, what with Francisco Liriano absolutely shutting down the Tribe last night.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on Sep 17, 2008 8:12 AM CDT   0 recs

Yeah, Liriano sucks...

Worst starter in the league. Bring back Haeger. He is owning with the Padres.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Sep 17, 2008 8:14 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

lol

You mean that Liriano that ruled over the great offenses he faced. The only incapable of losing?

The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.

by Tdogg on Sep 17, 2008 8:15 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

That was his first bad start since returning to the Twins...

I wish our starters only had one bad start out of nine.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Sep 17, 2008 8:21 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Our starters are fine

My point was that in watching Liriano he wasnt nearly as dominant in his starts as his numbers suggested and would likely have some struggles in a bad setting with a decent team.

The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.

by Tdogg on Sep 17, 2008 8:50 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

He already pitched well against both Cleveland and Detroit since coming back...

There aren’t too many pitchers that will have nine good outings in nine starts.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Sep 17, 2008 9:07 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

It was eight not nine

Regardless there are many pitchers who have had a good stretch, a couple on the White Sox. Let me put it another way Twin boy. THIS year I wouldnt take Liriano over any of our Top 4.

The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.

by Tdogg on Sep 17, 2008 9:37 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah, 8 good starts...

You wouldn’t take Liriano over Vazquez?

Ridiculous.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Sep 17, 2008 9:44 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

This year?

No. I guess Im ridiculous then.

The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.

by Tdogg on Sep 17, 2008 9:50 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

You are the one who is ridiculous

Vazquez has made 30 starts this year.

Liriano has made 12.

So you’d rather have 12 starts of Liriano + 18 starts of Clayton Richard over 30 starts of Vazquez.

Smart plan.

White Sox, that’s baseball.

by vince_ on Sep 17, 2008 9:53 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I dont think he meant it that way

Ill give him the benefit of doubt. More like in general. And no I would still take Javy this year.

The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.

by Tdogg on Sep 17, 2008 9:57 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

He needs to learn to read, because you clearly said "this year"

I’d need to see another 3 months of Liriano next season before I would make a call on whether to swap him with Javy.

White Sox, that’s baseball.

by vince_ on Sep 17, 2008 9:58 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Of course,

tonight is Cliff Lee vs. Scott Baker, which means the Twins will win 7-1.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on Sep 17, 2008 9:09 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Carma

For sure

The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.

by Tdogg on Sep 17, 2008 9:15 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

That Giambi at-bat was so incredibly fun to watch, so torturously fun. Awesome recap, Cheat. I might buzz this shit right up.

My other favorite moment was the IBB to Che.
I love that Alexei is so intimidating with his paper-thin stature….he’s a scrapper!

And since there is a new number to love today….

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Sep 17, 2008 9:09 AM CDT   0 recs

Ozzie Guillen indicated Tuesday that Swisher will see reduced playing time...
With Paul Konerko back in the lineup, manager Ozzie Guillen indicated Tuesday that Nick Swisher will see reduced playing time.
The Chicago Sun Times speculates that Swisher “has been thrown into the mix with "Brian Anderson, Dewayne Wise and Jerry Owens for playing time.”

Source: Chicago Sun-Times

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Sep 17, 2008 9:22 AM CDT   0 recs

Thanks for the reminder!....

Another fun bit of the game – seeing Paulie return and do a little damage.

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Sep 17, 2008 9:29 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Reminder?

I figured that Swisher would still start everyday in LF with Griffey in CF and Konerko at 1B. But I guess he really has been sucking lately. Not that I want to see Owens ever start over Swisher…

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Sep 17, 2008 9:33 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I think...

that, whatever you or Hawk think of him, DeWayne Wise will be playing against most right-handed pitchers. I’m not sure what Guillen is trying to accomplish with Owens.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on Sep 17, 2008 9:34 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Owens v. Swisher

Granted, Swisher has been terrible lately, but even if you believe in streaks, is it ever justifiable to play Owens over him? Maybe Jerry is an occasionally useful thing to have on the bench, but to start him? Bleah.

by Landfill on Sep 17, 2008 9:38 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Our little Floyd's all growns up now!

Sniff

White Sox, that’s baseball.

by vince_ on Sep 17, 2008 9:27 AM CDT   0 recs