Gavin Floyd Has Big Hairy Balls
It's rare that you get to watch a pitcher grow up right in front of your eyes, and even rarer when you can pin point the exact at-bat when he goes from boy, an oft-maligned headcase with good stuff and no idea what to do with it, to man, an incredibly confident complete pitcher who refuses to give in to one of the game's best. In the 5th inning Tuesday night, Gavin Floyd became a man, a real major league pitcher you'd send to the mound with confidence in a playoff game. Ozzie agrees:
"I think that's when this kid starts to be a man now," said White Sox manager Ozzie Guillen of Floyd fanning Giambi to end one of the Yankees' biggest threats on Tuesday. "He never gave up or gave in."
Gavin Floyd needed to work deep into this game. The bullpen is a mess and Ozzie knows it. With only 13 games left, the 4 (real) starters need to head to the mound for 100 pitches, and then run back out there for another inning. So, when Floyd found himself in trouble in the 5th inning--the bases loaded, Jason Giambi, who had just launched a moonshot in his last at-bat, strolling to the mound--it wasn't looking good for the Sox or their beleaguered 4th starter.
But Floyd didn't waver. He didn't back down, even when he dug himself a 2-0 hole. He battled back to even up the count at two, before throwing pitch #6 of the at-bat for ball three.
It's at this point the old Floyd--I'm not even talking about the Philly Floyd, the one who was referred to as "she" by members of the media and lacked so much confidence that he responded to all of his interviewers by staring at their feet and mumbling, but the Chicago Floyd, who would look you in the eye when he spoke, but was still so sure that he wouldn't win even 12 games that he bet his hair on it--would have given in; either missing the strike zone badly and walking in a run or grooving a mistake pitch, as he had on 3-2 to Giambi in his previous at-bat.
So, on 3-2, bases loaded, Sox up by 2, Floyd and Giambi waged a battle in which neither was willing to blink. For 6 straight pitches, with the runners in motion getting huge jumps--a single might have scored all three--Floyd threw strikes, good strikes, to Giambi and challenged him to do something with them.
Slider; foul. Slider; foul. Slider; foul. Changeup; foul. Fastball; foul. Slider; STRIKEOUT!
Floyd's 12th pitch of the at-bat was his best, a slider that I thought was a changeup while watching it live, breaking straight down out of the zone. Giambi was out in front, guessing fastball.
But Floyd wasn't done there. The Sox still needed him to get deep into the game despite his now elevated pitch count. He breezed through the 6th after the offense had a quick 1-2-3 top-half. Ozzie sent Floyd back out for the 7th even though he had thrown 97 pitches, and he promptly gave up a 400-foot ground-rule double to Brett Gardner. Normally, this is where Ozzie would jump out of the dugout and yank his young starter, but with the pen in a sorry state, and after that Giambi at-bat, Ozzie was giving him some extra rope. He needed another 12 pitches to get Johnny Damon and Derek Jeter to line out to second, before Ozzie popped out of the dugout.
Matt Thornton, the lone seemingly reliable reliever in the Sox pen was warm. Floyd was at 112 pitches, and had left-hander Bobby Abreu coming to the plate. I wouldn't have complained in the slightest if Ozzie pulled Floyd there. But when Ozzie got to the mound, Floyd sent him back. He was going to finish this inning; 4 pitches later he did on a fly out to center.
Gavin Floyd has balls; big, hairy balls that would put even Cisco Adler's* to shame.
* Go ahead, look it up. But be forewarned, the results of your search will not be pretty.
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Awesome
maybe the best recap of the year and really captures the moment.
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
by colintj on
Sep 17, 2008 12:57 AM CDT
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Colin,
after reading the recap, before looking at the posts, I’m writing -
“Best recap of the year.” BMTI.
But Cheat, you pretty much always get to the kernel. I always enjoy what you write and I can’t begin to tell you how much I’ve learned about the Sox (and baseball) from you.
Thanks.
Everyone get down on their knees tonight.........
and say a little (or maybe a medium sized) prayer for the Sox bullpen. Call in some chits.
by ballyb on
Sep 17, 2008 7:06 AM CDT
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confusionville
From your comment, is Christopher Michaels a new handle for The Cheat? If not, where is The Cheat?
I was at a crowded bar watching the game and half-mindedly playing a trivia game. i saw the whole at-bat and I got the same feeling then even though I didn’t have the full context of the game. Seeing the score and knowing the bullpen is gassed made it clear that Floyd needed to go deep and keep the lead in this game.
by FAQ on
Sep 17, 2008 8:26 AM CDT
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Christopher Michaels is his porn name.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on
Sep 17, 2008 8:30 AM CDT
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his dog's name is christopher and he lives on michaels st?
by onlysoxfaninboston on
Sep 17, 2008 9:34 AM CDT
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Call me Cole Stoughton
"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."
by U-God on
Sep 17, 2008 12:11 PM CDT
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"bullpen is gassed"
I wish that was the problem.
Everyone get down on their knees tonight.........
and say a little (or maybe a medium sized) prayer for the Sox bullpen. Call in some chits.
by ballyb on
Sep 17, 2008 9:14 AM CDT
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Suck up.
this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry
by rhythm on
Sep 17, 2008 1:19 PM CDT
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Agreed.
But whatthehell, bally is back to posting, and I’ll take that.
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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT
by winningugly on
Sep 17, 2008 1:37 PM CDT
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Dude's balls are saggier than winningugly's...
Don’t ask me why I know this.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on
Sep 17, 2008 1:00 AM CDT
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or I could ask....
why do you know this?
I wish he was in my fantasy league. id bury that cocksucker- KenWo4Life
by Hawk is God on
Sep 17, 2008 1:40 AM CDT
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I was duped
And looked it up. Mistake. But, if you’re so inclined then click here.
by FAQ on
Sep 17, 2008 8:27 AM CDT
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It looked to me like Floyd didn't have a good feel for his curveball yesterday...
which makes his outing all the more impressive.
The Floyd-Giambi battle was awesome and one of the many reasons I love baseball oh so much. Giambi rips the 2-0 pitch about 350+ feet and yet — on the very next pitch — Floyd throws the same fastball, catching the inside half of the plate and evening up the count at 2-2. What a great moment.
I recall Garland having a similar “he’s a big boy now!” moment versus the Orioles in 2005. It was a close game in the 7th inning and Garland had an epic battle against Miguel Tejada, finally getting Tejada to swing and miss on a sinker (or changeup) down-and-in.
Also, +1 for the “balls” tag. For comedy’s sake I certainly hope that’s not the last time we see it.
by CWSKeith on
Sep 17, 2008 1:10 AM CDT
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Last weekend we had a "mother nature is a cunt" tag
And here’s the Garland game to which you’re referring. I was gonna link it, but I wanted this post to be just about Gavin.
by Christopher Michaels on
Sep 17, 2008 1:17 AM CDT
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ah, the memories
that may have been one of the first posts i read here. your recaps were my crack.
by Trooper on
Sep 17, 2008 1:24 AM CDT
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have you moved on up
to real crack now? I highly recommend it.
…can I get a rock?
this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry
by rhythm on
Sep 17, 2008 1:35 AM CDT
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I was thinking exactly the same thing about that Garland AB
Though that was more of a “he’s not really this good, is he? wow, maybe he is” and early in the season. I definitely give Floyd the BiggerBalls award for the atmosphere.
by Trooper on
Sep 17, 2008 1:20 AM CDT
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ha i remember that pitch
and i believe it was a 3-2 changeup
by Jbasic89 on
Sep 17, 2008 1:24 AM CDT
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didn't see this ^
"term: pussy, user: larry, count: 11
term: pussy, user: all, count: 83" - wiz
by Where Triples Go to Die on
Sep 17, 2008 1:38 AM CDT
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3-2 changeup
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term: pussy, user: all, count: 83" - wiz
by Where Triples Go to Die on
Sep 17, 2008 1:37 AM CDT
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THat swing and miss of Tejada was 2005 for me
when I think of that world series year, that is the first image. Such an awesome moment.
Lurking since 2006
by boyonthedock on
Sep 17, 2008 3:07 PM CDT
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an awesome moment that for me led to an interesting night which led to a lot of awkwardness at work for awhile. whoops.
three cheers for wu, the all-time leader in opos+.
by Toonderstrook on
Sep 17, 2008 3:09 PM CDT
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it's always about you, isn't it, toonder?
;)
this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry
by rhythm on
Sep 17, 2008 3:20 PM CDT
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The more things change...
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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT
by winningugly on
Sep 17, 2008 3:22 PM CDT
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yeah. i feel like i'm in a constant state of deja vu lately. fucking glitches in the matrix.
three cheers for wu, the all-time leader in opos+.
by Toonderstrook on
Sep 17, 2008 3:24 PM CDT
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All over again. Read into it what you will, Yogi.
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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT
by winningugly on
Sep 17, 2008 3:28 PM CDT
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I was not a poster then, and neither were most of you.
3 comments? One about Ron Santo? And some guy named “shaftr”? The site has less traffic than SoxMachine, fer Chrissakes.
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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT
by winningugly on
Sep 17, 2008 3:20 PM CDT
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off topic
To preface, I am a fantasy owner who was lucky enough to draft Brady. I am being offered Jericho Cotchery and Kurt Warner for Steve Smith (Panthers). My QB right now is JT O’sullivan. I have M. Harrison, Lee Evans, David Patten. Do I pull the trigger?
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term: pussy, user: all, count: 83" - wiz
by Where Triples Go to Die on
Sep 17, 2008 1:41 AM CDT
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absolutely
are you insane? how could you not???
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
by colintj on
Sep 17, 2008 1:46 AM CDT
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Yes, make that trade and watch the waiver wire for an upgrade to Patten as your third WR.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on
Sep 17, 2008 7:37 AM CDT
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Patten would become his fourth
"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."
by U-God on
Sep 17, 2008 8:07 AM CDT
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Oops, yeah I'm stupid...
But yeah, his top three WR’s ( Harrison, Evans, and Cotchery ) would still be good enough to make it worth giving up Steve Smith to upgrade from O’Sullivan to Warner at QB.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on
Sep 17, 2008 8:13 AM CDT
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I think so too
(not about the stupid part)
(on this)
"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."
by U-God on
Sep 17, 2008 8:30 AM CDT
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But I guess, before I made the trade...
I would want to know what QB’s are available on his waiver wire.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on
Sep 17, 2008 8:33 AM CDT
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Easy there Tex.
Do you get 6 points or 4 for a TD? It matters. I love Warner but he is not likely to play a whole season and a O’sullivan paired with another another QB might be decent. Smith is a stud when a healthy Delhomme is qbing.
Im not resold on Harrison yet and Evans and Patten will be decent but inconsistent.
The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.
by Tdogg on
Sep 17, 2008 7:51 AM CDT
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6 points for a td regardless of position.
Warner is very intriguing considering the targets he has to throw to. JT will probably be throwing an awful lot this year playing catch-up and he could be that guy who comes out of nowhere. JT also looked good with his back up against the wall this past weekend. The Cardinals could win 9 games playing in that piss poor division. The next best QB option would be Chad Pennington. As far as ozzie goes, Lee Evans will end up being a stud for me this year. Harrison WILL start getting targeted more. I am not worried about them. Cotchery could be a HUGE sleeper considering Favre and Coles are not on the same page. Favre seems to target 1 guy and get him the ball all season ala Greg Jennings :) last year. Is it worth the risk of getting rid of a top 10 fantasy contributor for 2 top 20 guys. One more point. O’sullivan will face some piss poor pass defenses the next 2 weeks… Q HELP ME!
"term: pussy, user: larry, count: 11
term: pussy, user: all, count: 83" - wiz
by Where Triples Go to Die on
Sep 17, 2008 4:06 PM CDT
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and currently JT is actually rated higher than Warner
"term: pussy, user: larry, count: 11
term: pussy, user: all, count: 83" - wiz
by Where Triples Go to Die on
Sep 17, 2008 4:08 PM CDT
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You're a fool for having both Lee Evans and Marvin as starting WRs in the first place
If anything, try and dump Harrison (the Colts look awful and Gonzales is slowly taking catches away from him) for something of value. If not, then accept that trade fa sho. Cotchery is way underrated.
"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"
by Ozzie Montana on
Sep 17, 2008 11:22 AM CDT
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Well who knew that Marvin would bounce back?
Lee Evans came on extremely strong last year. I passed on Jennings thinking he would be the same with out favre. If I had a cristobal I would have known not to draft brady either.:/
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term: pussy, user: all, count: 83" - wiz
by Where Triples Go to Die on
Sep 17, 2008 4:26 PM CDT
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would not *
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term: pussy, user: all, count: 83" - wiz
by Where Triples Go to Die on
Sep 17, 2008 4:26 PM CDT
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Not to get all Matthew Berry
But the odds of Brady having such another insane year were pretty slim (though I would have picked him were I in the 5-7 range). He was probably going to have another great year, probably the best fantasy QB, but the difference between him and Romo or Brees wouldn’t have been that astronomical.
"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"
by Ozzie Montana on
Sep 17, 2008 10:07 PM CDT
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That's what I figured as well...
which is why I waited and grabbed Brees later. It has paid off so far.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on
Sep 17, 2008 11:22 PM CDT
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concur
Floyd’s got the biggest balls of them all
I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.
by thatshortkid on
Sep 17, 2008 2:56 AM CDT
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Floyd
Great post. This was my exact point a few days ago in regards to the starting pitching. Danks has to step up and do the same. Its money time.
The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.
by Tdogg on
Sep 17, 2008 7:52 AM CDT
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Good thing...
that Floyd had a good night last night, what with Francisco Liriano absolutely shutting down the Tribe last night.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on
Sep 17, 2008 8:12 AM CDT
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Yeah, Liriano sucks...
Worst starter in the league. Bring back Haeger. He is owning with the Padres.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on
Sep 17, 2008 8:14 AM CDT
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lol
You mean that Liriano that ruled over the great offenses he faced. The only incapable of losing?
The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.
by Tdogg on
Sep 17, 2008 8:15 AM CDT
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That was his first bad start since returning to the Twins...
I wish our starters only had one bad start out of nine.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on
Sep 17, 2008 8:21 AM CDT
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Our starters are fine
My point was that in watching Liriano he wasnt nearly as dominant in his starts as his numbers suggested and would likely have some struggles in a bad setting with a decent team.
The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.
by Tdogg on
Sep 17, 2008 8:50 AM CDT
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He already pitched well against both Cleveland and Detroit since coming back...
There aren’t too many pitchers that will have nine good outings in nine starts.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on
Sep 17, 2008 9:07 AM CDT
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It was eight not nine
Regardless there are many pitchers who have had a good stretch, a couple on the White Sox. Let me put it another way Twin boy. THIS year I wouldnt take Liriano over any of our Top 4.
The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.
by Tdogg on
Sep 17, 2008 9:37 AM CDT
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Yeah, 8 good starts...
You wouldn’t take Liriano over Vazquez?
Ridiculous.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on
Sep 17, 2008 9:44 AM CDT
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This year?
No. I guess Im ridiculous then.
The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.
by Tdogg on
Sep 17, 2008 9:50 AM CDT
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You are the one who is ridiculous
Vazquez has made 30 starts this year.
Liriano has made 12.
So you’d rather have 12 starts of Liriano + 18 starts of Clayton Richard over 30 starts of Vazquez.
Smart plan.
White Sox, that’s baseball.
by vince_ on
Sep 17, 2008 9:53 AM CDT
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I dont think he meant it that way
Ill give him the benefit of doubt. More like in general. And no I would still take Javy this year.
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by Tdogg on
Sep 17, 2008 9:57 AM CDT
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He needs to learn to read, because you clearly said "this year"
I’d need to see another 3 months of Liriano next season before I would make a call on whether to swap him with Javy.
White Sox, that’s baseball.
by vince_ on
Sep 17, 2008 9:58 AM CDT
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Of course,
tonight is Cliff Lee vs. Scott Baker, which means the Twins will win 7-1.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on
Sep 17, 2008 9:09 AM CDT
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That Giambi at-bat was so incredibly fun to watch, so torturously fun. Awesome recap, Cheat. I might buzz this shit right up.
My other favorite moment was the IBB to Che.
I love that Alexei is so intimidating with his paper-thin stature….he’s a scrapper!
And since there is a new number to love today….

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on
Sep 17, 2008 9:09 AM CDT
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Also....just to top off the night, I had the pleasure of mlbtv-ing right over to the Twins/Indians game, and finishing my evening on the porch with a rising red moon over the mountains and a Twins loss!
oooh, I CAN’T STAND IT!
(in a good way)
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on
Sep 17, 2008 9:18 AM CDT
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Ozzie Guillen indicated Tuesday that Swisher will see reduced playing time...
With Paul Konerko back in the lineup, manager Ozzie Guillen indicated Tuesday that Nick Swisher will see reduced playing time.
The Chicago Sun Times speculates that Swisher “has been thrown into the mix with "Brian Anderson, Dewayne Wise and Jerry Owens for playing time.”
Source: Chicago Sun-Times
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by SSH2005 on
Sep 17, 2008 9:22 AM CDT
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Thanks for the reminder!....
Another fun bit of the game – seeing Paulie return and do a little damage.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on
Sep 17, 2008 9:29 AM CDT
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Reminder?
I figured that Swisher would still start everyday in LF with Griffey in CF and Konerko at 1B. But I guess he really has been sucking lately. Not that I want to see Owens ever start over Swisher…
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on
Sep 17, 2008 9:33 AM CDT
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I think...
that, whatever you or Hawk think of him, DeWayne Wise will be playing against most right-handed pitchers. I’m not sure what Guillen is trying to accomplish with Owens.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on
Sep 17, 2008 9:34 AM CDT
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Owens v. Swisher
Granted, Swisher has been terrible lately, but even if you believe in streaks, is it ever justifiable to play Owens over him? Maybe Jerry is an occasionally useful thing to have on the bench, but to start him? Bleah.
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Sep 17, 2008 9:38 AM CDT
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Yeah, I wasn't being sarcastic. You reminded me of Paulie being back in the line-up by posting that.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on
Sep 17, 2008 9:44 AM CDT
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Our little Floyd's all growns up now!
Sniff
White Sox, that’s baseball.
by vince_ on
Sep 17, 2008 9:27 AM CDT
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Well Done x 2
Really, a fine outing by Gavin, one worth remembering. Even though his ERA has been ticking up, I think he’s actually gotten better as a pitcher as the year has gone on. In April, I think he was kind of lucky. Now, he’s earning those outs. Good for him.
Also, well done to Cheat/Chris. I agree with all the other fan-boys who enjoyed this write-up. It seems like these days you’re more comfortable writing narrative story than sabermetric-tinged analysis. Perhaps that’s the cure for your occasional Sox-malaise. For me, the real through-line of being a Sox fan over the decades is the stories. Watching Greg Walker come up as a strong young hitter, seeing him succeed and fail, worrying about him when he had that seizure, welcoming him back as a coach. Ozzie Guillen going from a hyperactive, skinny kid shortstop to a proud veteran who left with hard feelings to the wily lunatic manager who brought us a flag. Or AJ becoming our personal Bill Laimbeer, hated by everyone almost as much as he is beloved by us. Those kinds of tales, that take years to unfold, are the real heart of my being a fan. Gavin Floyd had a pretty good chapter in his own tale last night and had the good fortune to have you recognize it and write it up for him. He, and we, are fortunate that you did. Thanks.
by Landfill on
Sep 17, 2008 9:36 AM CDT
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MGOBLOG is the best at narrative / analysis
And of course the best posts are not the UFRs or the recruiting breakdowns, but the kind he wrote after Bo’s death and before OSU, and such like that.
Back to the Sox…
Jerry Owens was horrible last night. Everything from failing to get the runner over (and then running himself into an easy out with a poorly thought out steal) to striking out with runners on. I don’t care how bad Swisher is scuffling there is no way Owens brings anything more than Swisher. Owens is horrible and has proved it over and over.
Cabrera’s defense continues to be excellent. He made numerous tough plays look easy ranging into the hole and saved a run on the A-Rod ball. With him and Uribe on the left side of the infield I feel confident that pretty much everything hit over that way will be sucked up.
Call me crazy but I probably wouldn’t mind a Fields/Uribe combo at 3rd next year with Uribe as the supersub.
Floyd’s battle with Giambino was a classic, he threw that slider 4 times in a row (or maybe one was a change) and Giambi kept fouling it away weakly, finally got him to swing and miss. The fist pump from AJ was great to see.
by madvillian on
Sep 17, 2008 9:44 AM CDT
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Owens was a hot mess.
And I agree that I’d rather see a slumping Swish than a normal Owens. Sometimes, a little pressure to compete for a position is what a slumper needs to get back on track. So maybe Swish will be so inspired by NOT wanting Owens to be in, that he’ll come around (I speak of this as though there are still 50 games left or something).
What is the likelihood of a Uribe/Che left side, and Fields at 2B in ‘09? Don’t mess with a good thing?
I don’t know, I have big hopes and expectations for the little man, and I can see trusting him at SS someday.
Plus, it would be simply physically comical to watch Fatty Boombatty and Missile stand beside each other out there.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on
Sep 17, 2008 9:55 AM CDT
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If fields doesn't play good D at 3B
he’d be an utter disaster at 2B.
White Sox, that’s baseball.
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Sep 17, 2008 9:57 AM CDT
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But ok at SS?
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Fields? Are you kidding?
White Sox, that’s baseball.
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Well, ignore who we are talking about specifically...hypothetically....
How is it that a player who sucks at 3rd would be a disaster at 2B automatically?
I am just missing the logic, forgive my ignance.
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The difficulty of fielding of the positions is different
SS and 2B are more difficult than 3B.
Not to say its not possible at all for a 3B to play SS, but usually if they are good enough to play a premium defensive position then they’ll be playing that position (unless someone way better is there). So its more like a SS would be slumming it at 3B (re: Uribe) than a 3B would play SS.
White Sox, that’s baseball.
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Swish needs a day or two off - doesn't matter if he's better than JO.
He looks out of it, afield and at bat. Rest the boy.
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why does he need a day off?
he’s already taken the last 28 days off. hardy har har.
but seriously, over the last 28 days…. .135/.207/.378. 29 Ks, 7 BB. mercy.
brian anderson would've caught that...
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I definitely understand the difference in positions - I was a SS for 10 years, but have also played 3rd a few times.
I guess I’ve never perceived 2B to be more difficult than 3B….maybe out of my empirical bias.
I see what you mean…just never thought of 2B as more difficult.
I’m sure there is a way to look this up – but I would be interested in knowing the average percentage of hits to 3rd, vs hits to 2B.
Not to prove anything, because I’m sure it’s a greater number to 2nd – but just to see how different the number really is.
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by homesickalien on
Sep 17, 2008 10:40 AM CDT
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In little league
I got to play 3B/1B and some outfield. I was no kenwo.
White Sox, that’s baseball.
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Sep 17, 2008 10:42 AM CDT
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"hey vince, pull your pants up and stop picking your nose!"
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Sorry, girl baseball doesn't count.
Haha.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
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I realize the differences...and agree that my sport almost does not apply here...even if you are kidding.
About 90% of balls hit in my game, were to the left side – SS or 3B. SS was easily the most important and difficult spot on the field.
2B was the position where you stuck the worst girl on the team (that and RF) since she had less room to mess things up there.
So yeah – I know it “doesn’t count.” Just presenting why I have the mindset I do.
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Sep 17, 2008 10:59 AM CDT
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Yeah
That and he’s a dick :-P
"would've been a sweep if pablo was here" -Kenwo-
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Sep 17, 2008 11:06 AM CDT
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That is eternally implied in the text of whatever responses he gets. No need to even say so.
:)
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Sep 17, 2008 11:07 AM CDT
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I actually feel the same way...to some degree
I think a lot of the athletic, weak hitting types like Pedro Feliz and (okay I can’t think of anyone else off hand) could probably become somewhat effective 2B…despite a total lack of evidence.
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Sep 17, 2008 10:47 AM CDT
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But you are...a GIRL!
I mean, how aggressively were you taken out at 2B on the DP?
(Insert obvious PS joke here.)
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his problem is range and some lackluster hands
given that the second baseman (iirc) fields more balls per year than the third baseman, that would only exacerbate his issues.
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if we make the playoffs, we will be fortunate to have cabrera. my gut says he'll be clutch
but i look at his post-season stats, and they’re quite lack luster. perhaps my memories of his 2004 post season performance (i just moved here and watched every single game) are clouding my judgement.
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either that or the whippits.
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hehehehehehehehehehe
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when i worked at a coffeehouse back in college
i would raid the whipped cream supplies, haha
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and me when i worked at a grocery store in high school.
it’s like i’ve known you my whole life, osfib!
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*osfib proceeding to pack a bowl, cueing ali farka toure record*
ozzie is like so crazy dude
by onlysoxfaninboston on
Sep 17, 2008 12:41 PM CDT
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crazy awesome is more like it. now where's my strobe light???
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Sep 17, 2008 12:50 PM CDT
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I also spent a great deal of time as an employee of a coffee shop.
And I was privy to the chargers winding up in the backpacks of several employees as well.
I cannot personally claim to participate in such things.
Though I did have the local steakhouse bartender fill a large company cup with Amaretto Stone Sours for my closing shifts…at least that can’t be considered theft.
:)
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Sep 17, 2008 1:01 PM CDT
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let's go outback tonight...life will still be there tomorrrrrrrow.
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Sep 17, 2008 1:02 PM CDT
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whhhhhhheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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Great recap, as usual.
Intertesting that ESPN had Jeter as the lead, and the longest highlight was the 3-2 series to Giambi (though had the cameras focused on A-Rod going on the pitch during each foul ball, and how gassed he got from running – HAW HAW, God forbid they actually focus on the mano-y-mano action more).
Great night. And a great morning – financial markets crashing all over the place, firms going belly-up, and yet you can come to SSS for some love?
The world, she IS changing.
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Sickening coverage, as usual. I bet they didn't even mention Floyd's big balls.
How sad that Jeter’s stupid hit came off of an “error” by Uribe.
I would’ve liked to see Juan eat him up on that play.
May have even been an error that got called a hit for the sake of the story.
Who knows, I didn’t get a good glance, as my mlbtv was out to get me last night.
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Sep 17, 2008 9:59 AM CDT
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elo and pecota playoff odds jump 10% for sox
79% for elo and 87% for pecota. woohoo
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Does that lower our magic number?
No? Then I don’t care.
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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT
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eyes on the prize. very nice.
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Good point.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
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i just looked at our schedules
twins get 4 with tampa bay this weekend and we get 3 with KC.
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As long as they don't play as shitty as they did last time in K.C.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
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Sep 17, 2008 10:32 AM CDT
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yep. a 1-2 series in kc again would be unfortunate.
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Sep 17, 2008 10:36 AM CDT
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that could be a serious fuck up
we need a buffer going into the last 6 games.
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Sep 17, 2008 10:37 AM CDT
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nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
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lol
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term: pussy, user: all, count: 83" - wiz
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As long as the team splits the final 2 in New York
1-2 in KC is not a disaster.
The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.
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Sep 17, 2008 10:40 AM CDT
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is any of that analysis dependent on how the twins play between now and sunday?
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Sep 17, 2008 10:41 AM CDT
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Absolutely
Its a numbers game at this point. Look at the schedules and project. When I did it I actually gave the Sox a 1-2 record at KC. They really need to go 4-6 on this road trip. It will still be up to them at that point the last 3. 5-5 would be huge and probably would make it a done deal.
The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.
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Sep 17, 2008 10:45 AM CDT
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darth vader on chisox.com schedule last night with tag line "the force unleashed" = nice way of predicting floyd would show off big hairy balls last night
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any chance the Twins bring Liriano back on 3 days rest?
he only threw 72 pitches last night, so maybe they bring him back early on Saturday? In order to get him into the Sox series?
Or do they not mess with his schedule?
I'm like a laser, six-string razor. I've got a mouth like an alligator
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it's hard to say what the twins will do
it’s dependent upon how committed they are to this push relative to how to protect their investment in liriano. when the playoffs are this close, it’s easy to forget about the long term.
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I doubt it
They have protected him since returning, even to the point of losing some games. It would be strange for them to throw him on short rest.
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I think they might....
In their division position, it wouldn’t kill them to pull all-stops at this point.
If he had pitched a full, quality game last night, I would say no. But they may want to try and get another one out of him to make up for last night’s loss.
Tough to say though, since, as Tdogg pointed out, they have been protective thus far.
If they did get into the post-season, they might pay for their decision to start him on short rest, even if it helped them get there…
Tricky question there, Nord.
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Sep 17, 2008 11:05 AM CDT
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Sweet recap pseudo-Cheat
Despite the team attempting to make winning the AL Central look like a retarded baby attempt to walk, this has been a fantastic season.
Naturally, they’ll lose 21-1 today, Derek Jeter will ascend to the heavens and the Bronx-dwellers will finally get to tear A-Rod’s flesh apart.
Oh, and as I mentioned last night, it’s time we raise funds to get some ladies of a certain profession to Nick Swisher’s crib. He’s in some kind of funk that only the allure of a cheap whore can cure.
"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"
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Who's buying my plane ticket?
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Sep 17, 2008 11:19 AM CDT
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Greyhound, latch on underneath like in Cape Feare
"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"
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Sep 17, 2008 11:22 AM CDT
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One of my favorite episodes ever.
rake. (shudder)
rake. (shudder)
rake. (shudder)
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Sep 17, 2008 11:35 AM CDT
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(Homer aside to FBI Agent)
“I think he’s talking to you.”
Maybe the hardest I have ever laughed at a TV show.
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Where the fuck have YOU been, AEG?
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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT
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Great recap
....fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts
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and here's the twins' randy ruiz
on his visit to his little sister’s middle school….
“It was amazing. I knew there were a couple kids in there that I touched.”
UH OH.
brian anderson would've caught that...
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Show me on the bobble-head where the bad man touched you
White Sox, that’s baseball.
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Sep 17, 2008 11:39 AM CDT
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ha!
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american nightmare not joining the tribune
Uribe whispered, "My precious child, I love you and will never leave you, never, ever, during your trials and testings. When you saw only one set of footprints, It was then that I carried you."
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ESPN: Bastions of hard-hitting sports analysis
In the middle of the fourth inning the Yankees public address announcer implored fans to treat Yankee Stadium “respectfully over the final five games, and warned that anyone caught trying to take momentos from the ballpark would be arrested and prosecuted.” The Yankees will have extra police, including federal officers, in the stands Sunday. … Olympic silver medalist Dara Torres threw out the ceremonial first pitch, and Henry Kissinger, North Carolina basketball coach Roy Williams and Hillary Duff were at the game.
"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"
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Actually I could have a better title as the thought of guidos from Staten Island stealing shit from Yankee Stadium is more comical
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Giving the ball to Richard...
Risky proposition, Yankees, pennant drive… Lots of pressure. Let’s see the kid nut it up. Go Sox.
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Sep 17, 2008 11:59 AM CDT
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remember when we trotted out neal cotts a few years ago to start against the yankees instead of burls
brings back memories….neal cotts you’re not clayton…don’t piss down your leg
takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm
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Sep 17, 2008 12:14 PM CDT
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I do remember that wonderful event.
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by homesickalien on
Sep 17, 2008 12:28 PM CDT
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It was RE-TAR-DED, IIRC
2003 with Manuel at the helm. Thankfully, those days are long gone.
this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry
by rhythm on
Sep 17, 2008 1:42 PM CDT
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I believe that cost Manuel his job with the white sox.
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term: pussy, user: all, count: 83" - wiz
by Where Triples Go to Die on
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From Aaron Gleeman chat on Liriano
12:07 [Comment From Matt]
What’s up Aaron. I don’t get to watch the twins a lot, so I’m curious, especially after last night’s debacle, as to how you think Liriano has progressed since his second comeback. Where does his stuff now compare to his ‘06 stuff, and do you think he’ll improve further next year?
12:08 Liriano’s performance since rejoining the team has been tremendously encouraging and impressive, although he hasn’t pitched as well as the win-loss record and ERA indicate. HIs velocity remains down significantly from his pre-surgery levels and his breaking stuff is nowhere near as nasty. He’s made major strides and is clearly capable of being a very valuable pitcher right now, but he’s still a long way from where he was.
The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.
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can someone please tell me
what in the fuck the dude who sponsors buehrle’s BR page is talking about?
brian anderson would've caught that...
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Sep 17, 2008 12:20 PM CDT
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what the hell is a miseracordia
"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."
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well, it's a university in dallas, pennsylvania
and also a charity in chicago, but my point is more what in the motherfucking hell does “THE LEFTY FROM THE BRONX BABY” mean.
brian anderson would've caught that...
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it means "i paid to sponsor this page so i can say whatever the fuck i want"
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Sep 17, 2008 12:41 PM CDT
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I like the guy that sponsors Gavin's page
Gavin, I find his site to be quite hilarious
-Jeeves Life in the Cell
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Don't deny my Qunicorn?
White Sox, that’s baseball.
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Yeah - that was a really long and creepy missive.
Who the hell is Jessica? And why does he wait in her closet?
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Sep 17, 2008 3:42 PM CDT
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have a great wednesday, everyone.

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Alkie.
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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT
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A hot chick with massive stein of beer...
I don’t think I could possibly get any harder.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
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Sep 17, 2008 1:18 PM CDT
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don't worry. reardenmettle will be here soon to tell you she's not hot.
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The blonde, or the one guzzling faster than her friends?
You, sir, probably want a peer, so take the one on the left.
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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT
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I never said Keeley wasn't hot
I just said that her face wasn’t anything special.
Why so serious?
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sheeesh, no forgiveness for a man who has a different opinion....
You’d all be diverting your eyes to her mondo rack if you caught Keeley without make-up at any point….
you know, in case your eyes were not already on her mondo rack, which I am sure they would be.
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I feel like you posted this just for me, Toonder...
finally, a girl who is naturally pretty – drinking my proclaimed favorite beer.
Cheers!
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Sep 17, 2008 1:48 PM CDT
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um, yes, i posted it for you. uh huh.
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I like the one in the foreground
the one with the nice titties. Wouldn’t mind giving her a pearl necklace to add to her collection.
this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry
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Sep 17, 2008 3:23 PM CDT
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I think you just did.
2-D doesn’t count. Has to be 3-D.
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No way man, I don't want to get the screen all dirty
which makes me think of another way…to the color printer!
this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry
by rhythm on
Sep 17, 2008 3:25 PM CDT
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Your classiness oozes off the screen.
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and on it!!!
"would've been a sweep if pablo was here" -Kenwo-
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and on the color picture I printed out!!!
this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry
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You think you're better than me?
this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry
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mandelbaum!!!
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that beer goes straight to their....
you guessed it! must be specially formulated.
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term: pussy, user: all, count: 83" - wiz
by Where Triples Go to Die on
Sep 17, 2008 4:13 PM CDT
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oh man this looks so sweet. just look at her breats, from this angle they look almost perfect. Ah cheers to you too girly
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Matchup preview
Matchup: White Sox (84-66) at Yankees (80-71), 7:05 p.m. ET
Probable Starters: Lance Broadway (145 IP, 5.40 RA, 1.45 WHIP, 101 K—Triple-A) vs. Philip Hughes (22, 9.41, 2.14, 13)
Pythagorean Record: Chicago, 84-66 (755 RS, 661 RA); New York, 79-72 (725 RS, 694 RA)
Hit List Rankings: Chicago, #6; New York, #10
Prospectus: The Yankees won’t make the playoffs this season for the first time in 14 years, but at least Bomber fans can take heart in the fact that their Triple-A affiliate in Scranton Wilkes-Barre advanced to the postseason and took home the International League title. The upstart Rays have buried New York in the AL East standings, but Scranton took revenge in a best-of-five series by beating Tampa Bay’s top affiliate Durham for the title. The championship push was largely dependent upon Hughes, who made two strong starts in the playoffs. The righty tossed eight shutout innings against Pawtucket on September 7, giving up four hits and no walks while fanning 11 in a game that Scranton won 2-0 in 10 innings to advance to the Governors’ Cub Championship against the Bulls. Hughes then served as the ice man last Friday night, going five innings while giving up one run and striking out 12 in a 20-2 blowout that clinched the title. It has been a very poor season for Hughes in the big leagues, as he had to spend three months on the shelf with a rib-cage stress fracture after being beaten around during April, and then went through a couple of rough outings in Triple-A upon his return to form last month. With just four runs allowed and 38 strikeouts over his last 25 innings, it seems as if Hughes might be regaining his old dominance. Just as they wished from him this year, the Yankees will need Hughes to be a major part of their rotation next year, and a good start or two in these final weeks could help build his confidence towards that end.
In last night’s loss, Derek Jeter picked up two singles and passed Lou Gehrig to become the all-time leader in hits at Yankee Stadium. Jeter has been trying to catch up after a poor first four months of the season; since August 12 he has hit .397 in 138 plate appearances. Jeter’s overall numbers are still his worst since 1997, but it has been such a down year for American League shortstops that he still tops his junior circuit positional brethren with a VORP of 41.9. American League shortstops as a group are hitting .265/.317/.370, with an OPS below 700 for the first time since 1995.
The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.
by Tdogg on
Sep 17, 2008 12:40 PM CDT
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The Yankees have only themselves to beat.
"would've been a sweep if pablo was here" -Kenwo-
by Hazymania on
Sep 17, 2008 1:38 PM CDT
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I apologize if this has been posted...
but the tentative 2009 schedule is up.
Sox to open the season at home vs. KC, finish up with three in Cleveland and three in Detroit.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on
Sep 17, 2008 1:34 PM CDT
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Oh, and...
NL opponents -
PIT
@MIL
@CIN
LAD
by The Jerry Royster Experience on
Sep 17, 2008 1:36 PM CDT
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Prospective meet up in Milwaukee
Let’s get that ball rolling now.
"would've been a sweep if pablo was here" -Kenwo-
by Hazymania on
Sep 17, 2008 1:37 PM CDT
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Awwwwwww shit!
You guys can all hang at my cool two-bedroom apartment. I’ll bring the crack pipe, you guys bring the kegs and we’ll have a fuckin’ weekend!
by CWSKeith on
Sep 17, 2008 1:56 PM CDT
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Now we're talkin'!
Sign me the fuck up!
this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry
by rhythm on
Sep 17, 2008 1:59 PM CDT
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Excellent
Nothing like a herd of 20-60 year old men all packed in an apartment, ingesting chemicals of varying degrees of legality!
A finer time was never had!
"would've been a sweep if pablo was here" -Kenwo-
by Hazymania on
Sep 17, 2008 2:56 PM CDT
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60? Eff that?
Keep those OPOS’ the hell away from me.
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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT
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Sep 17, 2008 2:58 PM CDT
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I was allowing for the 50-59ers to come have a beer, complain that it's past their bed time, and head back to their hotel by 9.
If I’d left that demo out there would be screams of age discrimination
"would've been a sweep if pablo was here" -Kenwo-
by Hazymania on
Sep 17, 2008 3:02 PM CDT
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Not from me. I look 40 (well, maybe 45) and act 18. I can pass.
bally and the corpse of Chiburb, however…
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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT
by winningugly on
Sep 17, 2008 3:04 PM CDT
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those rec specs do make you look quite young.
three cheers for wu, the all-time leader in opos+.
by Toonderstrook on
Sep 17, 2008 3:05 PM CDT
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the act 18 part, I can believe
;)
this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry
by rhythm on
Sep 17, 2008 3:24 PM CDT
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great
Sox finally play in Milwaukee juuuuust after I will (tenatively) graduate. THis is bullshit.
Lurking since 2006
by boyonthedock on
Sep 17, 2008 3:40 PM CDT
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Stay in school
No jobs in the economy anyway. :P
White Sox, that’s baseball.
by vince_ on
Sep 17, 2008 3:41 PM CDT
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gotta get a job.
student loans don’t pay themselves
Lurking since 2006
by boyonthedock on
Sep 17, 2008 3:42 PM CDT
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Eh, just default
I mean, the gov will pick up the tab.
Oh wait, you’re not a billion-dollar corporation. Sorry, out of luck.
White Sox, that’s baseball.
by vince_ on
Sep 17, 2008 3:44 PM CDT
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Hate to break it to you...but neither do post-college jobs.
eff this shit.
I’m incredibly bitter.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on
Sep 17, 2008 3:44 PM CDT
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this is disheartening
Lurking since 2006
by boyonthedock on
Sep 17, 2008 3:56 PM CDT
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it depends on what field you go into
but my friends who signed with lehman bros expecting to make 6 figures are now unemployed 3.5 months after graduation.
Why so serious?
by reardenmettle on
Sep 17, 2008 4:09 PM CDT
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have you tasted their tears?
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
by colintj on
Sep 17, 2008 4:11 PM CDT
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They taste like Dom, from what I hear
Up theirs!
this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry
by rhythm on
Sep 17, 2008 4:13 PM CDT
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Cristal, actually.
Since iBankers are generally all about style over substance.
Why so serious?
by reardenmettle on
Sep 17, 2008 4:18 PM CDT
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Yeah, I'm a smart cookie, and not. doing. well.
The inflation this year is about 5% higher than the raise I am scheduled to get.
Field and degree matter, of course, but without the experience in your field, it is difficult to get the job that pays well – so you pretty much have to eat shit for years upon years, until you have that experience to put onto your resume.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on
Sep 17, 2008 4:18 PM CDT
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port slutting is a cut throat industry
by Christopher Michaels on
Sep 17, 2008 4:19 PM CDT
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I am so glad I could bring this little-heard perspective to the world of SSS.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on
Sep 17, 2008 4:21 PM CDT
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the jobs that DO pay well are usually in volatile industries like finance.
What is the average salary for someone right out of college, anyhow?
Why so serious?
by reardenmettle on
Sep 17, 2008 4:33 PM CDT
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Who knows...? I'm sure it's searchable on the internetz.
I’d guess $20,000-$30,000
?
But then again – how many people with degrees are even going into their field right away?
Not I. Or rather – mine doesn’t pay me yet – it’s my hobby while I do a job that provides me with health insurance.
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by homesickalien on
Sep 17, 2008 4:51 PM CDT
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The average starting salary depends a lot on what field you're going into.
I have found industry-specific averages, but no blanket overall average.
I could also be experiencing googlefail.
Why so serious?
by reardenmettle on
Sep 17, 2008 5:45 PM CDT
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Ugh -- don't say that
I’m hoping to major in accounting and tag along economics as well, and I’m starting to hear that people who passed the CPA are still having a tough time finding work. That’s rather discouraging, because one of the reasons I got into accounting was because the supposed need for accountants (and the nice check that comes with it).
by CWSKeith on
Sep 17, 2008 5:10 PM CDT
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It's brutal out there
I graduated in December and it’s been rough. I interned at The Onion and worked as a grant writer at a non-profit to pay the bills, but I HATE grant writing. Anyone hiring?
www.stallingtheman.blogspot.com
by Raf on
Sep 17, 2008 5:17 PM CDT
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are you good at ironing? any references?
three cheers for wu, the all-time leader in opos+.
by Toonderstrook on
Sep 17, 2008 6:00 PM CDT
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Accounting seems much more stable than like investment banking.
Why so serious?
by reardenmettle on
Sep 17, 2008 5:40 PM CDT
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So flunk/drop classes, already.
You have your whole life in front of you. Priorities, man.
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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT
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Sep 17, 2008 3:41 PM CDT
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it is great
they play milwaukee the weekend after my 21st
"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."
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Sep 17, 2008 4:05 PM CDT
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Looking closer...
two ten-game road trips. One in April doesn’t look too bad (3 @ DET, 4 @ TB, 3 @ BAL), but a real killer one at the end of August (4 @ BOS, 3 @ NYY, 3 @ MIN).
Only one series in Oakland, but two in Anaheim and two in Seattle.
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Sep 17, 2008 1:47 PM CDT
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big A in may and sept
WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.
by thatshortkid on
Sep 17, 2008 1:49 PM CDT
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TWO IN SEATTLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?
HHHHHHHALLLLLLLLLLLEEEELLLLLLLLLUUUUUUUUUJJAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
FIIINNNNNNALLLLLLLLYYYYYY!
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on
Sep 17, 2008 1:50 PM CDT
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yeah, but they're both weekday series
booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.
by thatshortkid on
Sep 17, 2008 1:51 PM CDT
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Don't matter - I am a block away from the park. I will work short days and scoot on over....
See you in left field?
:)
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on
Sep 17, 2008 1:55 PM CDT
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that's why i'm booing
weekday series means no way of making it up to safeco. i get shit in terms of vacation days.
now, the oaktown series, on the other hand….
I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.
by thatshortkid on
Sep 17, 2008 3:41 PM CDT
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boooooooooo
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on
Sep 17, 2008 4:05 PM CDT
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boooo yourself
Ms. non-cumming on the screen
;)
this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry
by rhythm on
Sep 17, 2008 4:14 PM CDT
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bring it on up here, tsk.
three cheers for wu, the all-time leader in opos+.
by Toonderstrook on
Sep 17, 2008 4:10 PM CDT
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Hells yeah!
this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry
by rhythm on
Sep 17, 2008 4:14 PM CDT
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That first 10 game stretch could be bad too
If the Tigers improve from this year and the Rays don’t regress, that could be pretty bad too
-Jeeves Life in the Cell
by jeeves on
Sep 17, 2008 2:20 PM CDT
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Tiggers are old, old, old.
Not worried about them (depth is a problem, too), but (surprised I am saying this, are you?) the Rays will be better.
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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT
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I'm mostly in agreement with you WU
but you never know. Tampa Bay should be better, but they just might regress like we’ve seen the Bulls do (young team, playing way better than expected, and then fell back to earth though most people thought they would be even better).
In the case with the Tigers, a lot of people thought our Sox were old, old, old coming into this year (granted, the Sox also had a lot of untested/?‘s involved with their young players). I’ve come to the point now, where I’ll rarely write off a team prior to the start of the season…unless they play in Pittsburgh or something
-Jeeves Life in the Cell
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Sep 17, 2008 2:39 PM CDT
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Full year of Price? Full year of a matured Longoria? An actual closer
perhaps? Upton staying awake for >65% of his innings? They. Will. Be. Awesome. And. Scary. For. Us.
Tiggers may come back when healthy, sure. I guess I worry more about our age than theirs.
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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT
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Upton staying awake >65%?
Now you’re just being greedy WU!
-Jeeves Life in the Cell
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Sep 17, 2008 3:04 PM CDT
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Thanks, Jer.
Tampa in April. Now THAT’s some scheduling. Sign me up.
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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT
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moar detailz
WHITE SOX ANNOUNCE 2009 REGULAR-SEASON SCHEDULE
CHICAGO – The Chicago White Sox have announced the club’s tentative 2009 regular-season schedule, with the White Sox opening at U.S. Cellular Field on Monday, April 6, vs. the Kansas City Royals. It is the club’s fourth Opening Day at home over the past five seasons. The other two games of the opening series are scheduled to be played on April 8 and 9.
The White Sox will take on the division-rival Minnesota Twins in the second series at home (April 10-12) and begin the road portion of the schedule at Comerica Park vs. the Detroit Tigers on April 13.
The White Sox and Cubs continue their interleague rivalry for the 13th straight season, with the Sox traveling to Wrigley Field (June 16-18) and the Cubs visiting U.S. Cellular Field (June 26-28) in a three-game weekend series. The White Sox-Cubs all-time regular season series record currently is tied 33-33.
The White Sox will start interleague play at home when they face the Pittsburgh Pirates (May 22-24). The first interleague road opponent will be the Milwaukee Brewers (June 12-14). It is the Sox first trip to Milwaukee’s Miller Park since the ballpark’s inaugural season in 2001. The White Sox also will visit the Cincinnati Reds (June 19-21) and are scheduled to host the Los Angeles Dodgers (June 23-25). The 2009 season marks the 50th anniversary of the 1959 World Series between the American League pennant-winning “Go Go Sox” and the Dodgers, which Los Angeles won four-games-to-two over the White Sox.
The White Sox will face Boston eight times in 2009, including a four-game set at U.S. Cellular Field (September July 4-7). The New York Yankees also will visit U.S. Cellular Field for a four-game series (July 30-August 2). The final home series of the season is a three-game set vs. Detroit (September 25-27).
The longest homestand is 11 games, with series vs. Oakland (four games), Cleveland (three games) and Detroit (four games) between June 1-11. The longest road trip is 10 games, which occurs twice (April 13-23 and August 24-September 2).
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on
Sep 17, 2008 2:24 PM CDT
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any reason why
the season starts a week later next year? this season’s first game was 3/31.
vanillablue.wordpress.com
by vanillablue on
Sep 17, 2008 3:57 PM CDT
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my guess is the WBC
I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.
by thatshortkid on
Sep 17, 2008 4:00 PM CDT
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and maybe planning for weather
"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."
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Sep 17, 2008 4:05 PM CDT
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Where the eff is larry?
Is he having to actually WORK now that the global financial system is melting down?
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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT
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I think he's in New York attending the game
So, not sitting in his office now.
brndnprkns: I'm pretty sure the "badass" value of your life is closer to Gigli than The Dark Knight
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Sep 17, 2008 1:42 PM CDT
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I was wondering the same thing....I thought he might have to be in court or something lawyer-like.
Even then, I kinda picture him on his laptop at SSS during trials.
He’s a multi-tasker, that one.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
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Sep 17, 2008 1:50 PM CDT
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looking at porn and masturbating at the same time counts as multi-tasking, correctt?
cause I think everyone on SSS has mastered that one.
this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry
by rhythm on
Sep 17, 2008 2:01 PM CDT
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correctt - sorry, had me a WU moment.
this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry
by rhythm on
Sep 17, 2008 2:02 PM CDT
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Please...I'm enjoying the larry-free quiet
He’ll be back after he enjoys his luxury suite at Yankee Stadium.
Until then here’s a larry fix:
“My point was that your point isn’t valid, since you completely dismissed his OPS and are only looking at his batting average, which is absurd and idiotic, and I wish you were never born. Now go away and leave me alone.”
There…feel better?
"There will be surgery. It will heal. It will heal fast."- Carlos Quentin on NBC 5 News Chicago (9/5/08)
by tailgater on
Sep 17, 2008 2:51 PM CDT
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and i wish you were never born
classic
by onlysoxfaninboston on
Sep 17, 2008 2:56 PM CDT
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Um, sure I feel better, but I'm confused
why was that a reply to me?
I was changing the subject from larry to masturbation, always an excellent topic in a sausage-fest, make a poke at WU, and here you go changing it back to be about larry.
tailgater, come clean now, is there something you want to tell us about you, larry, BAzzles, and Azzles?
this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry
by rhythm on
Sep 17, 2008 3:30 PM CDT
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i've been training my stand-ins. unfortunately, none of them quite capture the joie de vivre of my posts. they should take some pointers from tailgater, who came close.
fight like a cat: paws up. - ozzie
by larry on
Sep 17, 2008 10:28 PM CDT
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Because he directly copied one of your posts.
There can be only one.
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just noticed this in the tribune
Also, left-hander John Danks will be available in relief Wednesday night.
it’s at the bottom of this article.
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Sep 17, 2008 2:43 PM CDT
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would today be a normal side session?
and the Sox are piggybacking him in the game instead? that’s pretty sweet.
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
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I know the schedule doesn't match up
but I’d be more comfortable with them doing that with Vazquez or Buehrle, rather than a 23 year old who has never thrown 200 IP in the bigs.
White Sox, that’s baseball.
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Sep 17, 2008 3:12 PM CDT
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side session is side session vince
He has to get his throwing in. No harm if its the game.
The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.
by Tdogg on
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I stand by my statement.
White Sox, that’s baseball.
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Stubbornness. An admirable trait. Occasionally.
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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT
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What are standing by?
You don’t want him to do his work? Or you somehow think its more taxing because he is in a game? My understand its not.
The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.
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I would rather they make this experiment with a more veteran pitcher
who isn’t in danger of hitting The Wall in IP and who isn’t below in the injury nexus for a pitcher.
Because if Danks hits the Wall (which he probably would have anyway, although I do think game innings are probably more stressful than side session innings), it will get blamed on this experiment.
White Sox, that’s baseball.
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Basically I'm saying I'm in favor of using starters' side sessions as bullpen days
but I’d prefer they use veteran guys for it.
White Sox, that’s baseball.




