Horacio Ramirez is the Worst Reliever in White Sox History
I've made no secret my disdain for Horacio Ramirez. When the Sox acquired him, I simply stated that he "sucks." I didn't think the acquisition needed much more than that extemporaneous analysis. It's not like he was going to stick around. He was just a temporary fix to a problem that would surely be temporary. It's not like he was going to see much action; right?
And yet, here we are, a month later. Ramirez has appeared 15 games, allowing a baserunner in 14 of those outings. He's universally horrible. Lefties hit him well; so do righties and switch hitters. He can't strike anyone out; only 2 of the 65 batters he's faced have gone down via the strikeout. He hasn't carried over his control from Kansas City; 8 of the 65 batters he's faced have reached base via the walk. He's a pitcher with zero redeeming qualities.
That headline is not an exaggeration. There have been a total of 15 players in baseball history to pitch in 15 or more games in a season while posting a WHIP of 2.5 or greater. Horacio Ramirez just pitched in his 15th game with the White Sox; he has pitched 11.1 innings and allowed 30 baserunners, for a WHIP of 2.65.
Congrats, Horacio. You're #16.
In all of baseball history there have been only 15 other pitchers so inept, so putrid. In all honesty, I'm was surprised there wasn't more. But the truth is, if you've proven yourself this horrible over the span of 15 games, you get your walking papers. And yet, there is Ramirez, still on the team, a team fighting for a playoff spot, getting higher-leverage work than half the bullpen, hiding the occasionally useful Adam Russell. It's time we blow the horn on this joke. There's no reason we should ever see this guy on the mound again.
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Yes, he does...
but what about the offense? They have almost reached Horacio Ramirez levels of suck these days.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on
Sep 18, 2008 10:02 PM CDT
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Its simple, September spelled backwards is April
12th in the AL in BA with a .250BA
Last in the AL with a .306 OBP
11th in slugging
11th in runs scored in the AL
12th in hits in the AL
8th in doubles
10th in XBH
The only team that hasnt recorded a triple.
I found our offensive superstat. Wait for it. Wait for it.
We hit homers, so 5th in the AL in homers
by southsideirish71 on
Sep 18, 2008 10:45 PM CDT
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September offensive numbers that is.
by southsideirish71 on
Sep 18, 2008 10:47 PM CDT
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With all that badness
it will probably only take 5 more wins to cinch it up
by El Duque's Raft on
Sep 18, 2008 10:50 PM CDT
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Yeah, but can the awful offense score enough to win 5 games?
If they don’t score on Brian Bannister tomorrow, I think I will stop watching the games.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on
Sep 18, 2008 11:46 PM CDT
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I'm trying to find the phrase...
Ah, yes, blessing in disguise. Will not watching keep you from posting as well?
by Craig Grebeck on
Sep 18, 2008 11:55 PM CDT
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But these guys aren't swinging for the fences in every situation.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on
Sep 19, 2008 12:03 AM CDT
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I defy you to tell me whether you could tell me if someone was "swinging for the fences"
in a sample of various hitters from across the league combined with sox hitters. and how do you know whether it’s bad or good? it’s bad when you don’t like the results and it’s good when you do? that’s insane.
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
by colintj on
Sep 19, 2008 12:56 AM CDT
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logic. dead. remember?
brndnprkns: I'm pretty sure the "badass" value of your life is closer to Gigli than The Dark Knight
by whitesoxmatt on
Sep 19, 2008 8:22 AM CDT
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i always forget.
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
by colintj on
Sep 19, 2008 9:52 AM CDT
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Sadly
HoRam’s KC time will keep him from making that list. And Stu Flythe was awful. Worst pitcher in MLB history it appears.
by Bull Pain on
Sep 18, 2008 10:35 PM CDT
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Don't forget
Horacio Ramirez is the worst reliever in history because before he put a White Sox uniform on, he wore a Royals one. Before he was with KC, he was a Cy Young candidate and first ballot Hall of Famer…wait what’s that, oh, he sucked before he played for the Royals, well let’s blame Dayton Moore anyways.
by El Duque's Raft on
Sep 18, 2008 10:35 PM CDT
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The real blame is on Boone Logan for turning into a pile of suck...
Then it’s Kenny’s fault for not having any better options to call up as a replacement. And also his fault for thinking that Ramirez would be a good addition to the bullpen.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on
Sep 18, 2008 11:48 PM CDT
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yeah i can't believe we don't have a LOOGY
what a huge oversight
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by colintj on
Sep 19, 2008 12:57 AM CDT
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this is one brutal day.
i actually was briefly trying to defend him, even though i know he sucks, because when he came in with 2 out and the bases loaded in the 4th and down 4-1 he got abreu to hit a medium speed ground ball between the first and second basemen that could have resulted in an out if it was hit a few feet in either direction then got arod to hit a grounder right at alexei.
anyway, i agree with you. i never want to see him on the mound again.
i still remember the acrimony at lookout landing when seattle traded rafael soriano for him and also remember his performance in seattle and how crazy they went when he sucked.
brian anderson would've caught that...
by BuehrleMan on
Sep 18, 2008 10:38 PM CDT
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one cannot defend Dye
showing inordinate amounts of suckitude. He will always watch the first strike go by, followed by a weak swing at the off-speed pitch and finds himself in a Konerko-like hole —either 0-2, or 1-2. I suppose we should consider ourselves grateful that we’ve even gotten this far. Unless we sweep this weekend and the Twins drop a couple, look for a very anxiety producing, make it or break it week ahead.
by RoyEgan on
Sep 18, 2008 10:54 PM CDT
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a) what did what i say there have to do with dye? are you following me from the gamethread?
2) are you talking about the same dye that is second on the white sox, behind only Q!, with a 130 OPS+?
dude, you’re crazier than ssh. dye is also second on the white sox in HR, RBI, BA, OPS+, SLG %, and hits. and 1st in doubles and triples.
i think i see what’s going on here. you’re just fucking with me.
i roll for disbelief.
brian anderson would've caught that...
by BuehrleMan on
Sep 18, 2008 11:34 PM CDT
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And what are they doing in crunch time?
Choking.
Put up or shut up. This is the same shit that the Sox always seem to do down the stretch (minus 2005).
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on
Sep 18, 2008 11:49 PM CDT
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"Sox always seem to do"
So, there’s something about the uniform that makes them choke? Because the players on the team actually change year-to-year.
by hitlesswonder on
Sep 19, 2008 12:12 AM CDT
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Extra starch in the collars.
"would've been a sweep if pablo was here" -Kenwo-
by Hazymania on
Sep 19, 2008 10:14 AM CDT
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who is they? and what do you mean about crunch time?
i merely stated that jermaine dye is probably the second best offensive player on the white sox this year and is not the player someone should be looking to blame, unless that person is insane of course.
brian anderson would've caught that...
by BuehrleMan on
Sep 19, 2008 12:13 AM CDT
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Dye's line this month: .250 / .328. / .317 / .645
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on
Sep 19, 2008 12:30 AM CDT
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relevance of Dye's monthly line = ???
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
by colintj on
Sep 19, 2008 12:58 AM CDT
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"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."
by U-God on
Sep 19, 2008 8:09 AM CDT
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Choking in the home stretch.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on
Sep 19, 2008 10:11 AM CDT
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You're such a cliche.
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
by colintj on
Sep 19, 2008 10:14 AM CDT
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he'd be perfect for Baseball Tonight though
"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."
by U-God on
Sep 19, 2008 11:12 AM CDT
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sample size = WHAT YOU SAY?!
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by colintj on
Sep 19, 2008 12:58 AM CDT
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Whatever you want to call it...
Good players and teams come through when it matters. The Sox are limping to the finish line.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on
Sep 19, 2008 1:04 AM CDT
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OMG I CAN'T BELIEVE WE LOST 3 OF 4 TO THE YANKEES
by Craig Grebeck on
Sep 19, 2008 7:52 AM CDT
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at yankee stadium
"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."
by U-God on
Sep 19, 2008 8:10 AM CDT
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yea
fuck a-rod with his unclutchness. dude blows. i wouldnt want his 40 homers, 120 RBIs a year on my team
brndnprkns: I'm pretty sure the "badass" value of your life is closer to Gigli than The Dark Knight
by whitesoxmatt on
Sep 19, 2008 8:26 AM CDT
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Holy crap
Didn’t Dye win the WS MVP in 2005? He’s performed well in “clutch” situations before. So your choices to explain his performance now are:
1) Suddenly has become a choker
2) Is in a slump because slumps happen, semi-random fluctuation of luck, he’s 90 years old….your choice.
But no, anyone that is playing badly right now = choker. Got it.
What a bunch of bunch of balless bastards. How dare they let us down like this.
by hitlesswonder on
Sep 19, 2008 8:59 AM CDT
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There's hundreds and hundreds of good players
that have gone through weeks or months of suck. It’s called baseball. It’s what happens.
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by colintj on
Sep 19, 2008 9:53 AM CDT
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Choking?
Please — spare us that bullshit. It’s obnoxious and is a term that is thrown around much too often.
The Sox were had the deck (somewhat) stacked against them heading into this series, having to throw out Richard as well as Vazquez. Oh, and they’re going up against a team that is probably their equal, especially when one team is playing without its best player. Losing three in New York doesn’t really surprise me… not that I’m happy about it, but it is what it is.
Time to head to KC and do what they’ve seemingly done all season long — beat the team that you’re supposed to beat.
by CWSKeith on
Sep 19, 2008 1:10 AM CDT
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Sure...
Anything less than 2 of 3 from the Royals would be a massive disappointment.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on
Sep 19, 2008 1:12 AM CDT
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I'll keep this in mind when...
We win 2 of 3 and you rail them for not sweeping.
by Craig Grebeck on
Sep 19, 2008 7:53 AM CDT
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If the Sox could skip this weekend and get an automatic 2 of 3...
I would be ecstatic. The lead would likely raise a game, possibly two, with the Twins playing the Rays.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on
Sep 19, 2008 10:13 AM CDT
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eat your stats
u got all pissy when i suggested that HoRam was a POS during the game… that he’s allowed runs in every appearance (i should have said MOST because u had such a fit at my liberal use of language)…only to have my point proven by his dreadful performance . And BTW your stats are meaningless in defense of dye or anyone else. .. there are intangible such as not sucking during big games …and dye folded in this series. do u see the connection? Sox failing? .
by RoyEgan on
Sep 19, 2008 4:52 AM CDT
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"eat your stats" / "your stats are meaningless"
you must be new here….
I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.
by thatshortkid on
Sep 19, 2008 7:45 AM CDT
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yeah, you're right. dye sucks in big games.
he should give that world series mvp award back.
oh, fuck it. why do i bother?
brian anderson would've caught that...
by BuehrleMan on
Sep 19, 2008 8:12 AM CDT
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interesting that you dodged the issue.
by RoyEgan on
Sep 19, 2008 8:53 AM CDT
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yeah, fucking fascinating isn't it?
brian anderson would've caught that...
by BuehrleMan on
Sep 19, 2008 8:55 AM CDT
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what issue?
you’re an idiot? that issue?
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by colintj on
Sep 19, 2008 9:54 AM CDT
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you said
what i was thinking.
brian anderson would've caught that...
by BuehrleMan on
Sep 19, 2008 9:55 AM CDT
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Why do you guys have to resort to personal attacks?
Because you can’t prove your point?
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on
Sep 19, 2008 10:15 AM CDT
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Pot and kettle here.
Chip, chip, chip, chip.
Sox Machine
by Sox Machine on
Sep 19, 2008 10:20 AM CDT
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Pot?
i thought i smelled something funny here being cooked
brndnprkns: I'm pretty sure the "badass" value of your life is closer to Gigli than The Dark Knight
by whitesoxmatt on
Sep 19, 2008 10:22 AM CDT
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beat me to it.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on
Sep 19, 2008 10:22 AM CDT
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By the way
This is classic Mariotti behavior. Like when he called Frank Thomas “The Big Skirt” for years then pleaded for pity when Ozzie insulted him.
Chip, chip, chip, chip.
Sox Machine
by Sox Machine on
Sep 19, 2008 10:28 AM CDT
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can you imagine Frank Thomas in a skirt?
that’s comedy
"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."
by U-God on
Sep 19, 2008 11:13 AM CDT
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I love Frank but he sure as hell didn't show up in the 2000 playoffs.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on
Sep 19, 2008 11:29 AM CDT
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no one did
let it the fuck go
"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."
by U-God on
Sep 19, 2008 11:32 AM CDT
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No, no, no you are confusing that with your style....
I think they are ignoring proving the “point” because it’s irrelevant.
Dye had nothing to do with BM’s original comment. Maybe Roy accidentally replied instead of creating his own comment….
But nobody was defending HoRam last night – Roy was just exceptionally negative, as always, about the situation – his “Go Angels” exit was questioned – not his testament to HoRam sucking. Nobody here is disagreeing with that.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on
Sep 19, 2008 10:22 AM CDT
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roy was definitely responding to me
albeit from the game thread where i said (in response to him and someone else regarding dye being in a slump) , essentially, dye is not someone we should be blaming.
he also seemed to take issue because when he said,“HoRam has given up a run in every appearance.” it was supposed to be understood that he didn’t mean it literally, so when i said he was wrong he thought i was fucking with him, when in reality i thought he meant what he said.
brian anderson would've caught that...
by BuehrleMan on
Sep 19, 2008 10:43 AM CDT
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you son of a bitch.
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
by colintj on
Sep 19, 2008 10:43 AM CDT
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call me crazy.
brian anderson would've caught that...
by BuehrleMan on
Sep 19, 2008 10:45 AM CDT
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how could you not know what a man two time zones over was thinking
you’re clearly no KenWo
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by U-God on
Sep 19, 2008 11:14 AM CDT
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to roy?
what point was i making to him? i interjected on behalf of reason and sanity.
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by colintj on
Sep 19, 2008 10:23 AM CDT
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Sox friends
I love my team. Born on the south side in the 50’s. Season’s tix for 20+ years when I still lived in the city. Huge fans still now that I’m on the left coast. Written for the Trib, the Sun Times, the NY Times, LA Times re: Sox. My loyalty is unquestionable. I admit I get emotional on this subject. I let my id run way ahead of my logic when it comes to the Sox. You stat guys always want to counter an emotiona argument w/ numbers. Doesn’t work for me. As for my Angels comment… not truly a fan but I enjoy watching them. what I was saying was that at least I’ll have someone to cheer for in the post season. Apologies to all who were ticked off.
by RoyEgan on
Sep 19, 2008 11:44 AM CDT
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I knew you were a fellow OPOS.
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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT
by winningugly on
Sep 19, 2008 1:50 PM CDT
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you just get back from the denny's early bird senior lunner?
the legend of wu, the all-time leader in ypos+, pos+, opos+, and soon to be ropos+, grows.
by Toonderstrook on
Sep 19, 2008 1:52 PM CDT
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No, I am actually meeting with people who have had their
heads spun around by this market and are trying to figure out when they can retire. You know, working.
But this is quite entertaining. It took – what – < week for the doubleheader glow from Sunday night to become carping and sniping (mostly 2 posters dragging everyone into the muck). I prefer to remain above the fray for the time being. Will get dirty tonight.
Another liquid lunch on tap in 5 minutes, Kelsey Grammer?
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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT
by winningugly on
Sep 19, 2008 1:56 PM CDT
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i could drink frasier under the table. and no, i am a model employee and wouldn't dare of imbibing spirits at lunch.
the legend of wu, the all-time leader in ypos+, pos+, opos+, and soon to be ropos+, grows.
by Toonderstrook on
Sep 19, 2008 1:58 PM CDT
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What does Dye's WS MVP from 2005 have to do with 2008?
He is sucking when it counts this month. So are many other hitters. So is the bullpen.
They are collectively choking.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on
Sep 19, 2008 10:15 AM CDT
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Choking implies that they are feeling the pressure and wilting
so unless you can somehow throw in some evidence that that’s true, you should probably use a word that actually reflects reality.
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
by colintj on
Sep 19, 2008 10:24 AM CDT
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Of course I can't prove it...
But when even Ozzie is questioning the team’s effort…
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on
Sep 19, 2008 10:30 AM CDT
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...he definitely isn't trying to motivate them or anything.
Chip, chip, chip, chip.
Sox Machine
by Sox Machine on
Sep 19, 2008 10:31 AM CDT
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Yeah Ozzie's never done that before.
He certainly wouldn’t be using the same motivational tactics that he’s been using all season. C’mon. It’s like you don’t even try to think shit through.
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
by colintj on
Sep 19, 2008 10:33 AM CDT
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Doesn't the fact that Ozzie has to motivate his team in a fucking division race...
prove my point?
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on
Sep 19, 2008 10:35 AM CDT
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No.
Ozzie is always doing this. This is par for the course. Every time the team slumps he does this and then media either says “Team responds to Ozzie’s call!” or “Team sucks despite Ozzie’s outburst!”
Pay. Attention.
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by colintj on
Sep 19, 2008 10:38 AM CDT
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managers in tight races do that kind of thing
its what they’re paid for
"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."
by U-God on
Sep 19, 2008 11:15 AM CDT
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Because players never, ever, ever lose their motivation?
Sorry, Joe Schmo but they’re athletes nearing the end point of a ridiculously long and, at times, monotonous season. They will lose their focus, as every division leading team has this month. Whether the players right the ship themselves, or their manager gives them a kick in the balls, who gives a shit as long as it results in production. You equate months atop the Central Division as “choking”, I call it playing above expectations, and now just trying to persevere due to some ill-timed injuries.
"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"
by Ozzie Montana on
Sep 20, 2008 3:01 AM CDT
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all this and my softball team loses in extras to be eliminated from the playoffs
worst day ever
"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."
by U-God on
Sep 18, 2008 11:18 PM CDT
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can you hit or field? hit a cut off man? do you live near bolingbrook?
lost first 3 games by 1 run in the last inning. tonight we got smashed like 30 something to 10.
"term: pussy, user: larry, count: 11
term: pussy, user: all, count: 83" - wiz
by Where Triples Go to Die on
Sep 18, 2008 11:32 PM CDT
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when i'm not at school, yes, i do live near bolingbrook
I can field and hit the cutoff man. My hitting is basically limited to singles with the occasional double.
"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."
by U-God on
Sep 19, 2008 8:12 AM CDT
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CM
rec’d, i could go out there and get more guys out topping out at 60mph.
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term: pussy, user: all, count: 83" - wiz
by Where Triples Go to Die on
Sep 18, 2008 11:34 PM CDT
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well, you won 4 championships in a row
thats more than michael jordan. dont compare yourself to mortals like horacio
brndnprkns: I'm pretty sure the "badass" value of your life is closer to Gigli than The Dark Knight
by whitesoxmatt on
Sep 19, 2008 8:28 AM CDT
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WTGTD =/ Kenwo.
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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT
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Sep 19, 2008 8:39 AM CDT
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i dont know why i read that wrong
i’m a moron
brndnprkns: I'm pretty sure the "badass" value of your life is closer to Gigli than The Dark Knight
by whitesoxmatt on
Sep 19, 2008 8:41 AM CDT
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"term: pussy, user: larry, count: 11
term: pussy, user: all, count: 83" - wiz
by Where Triples Go to Die on
Sep 19, 2008 9:42 PM CDT
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Although WTGTD and KenWo = ratings
Why so serious?
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Sep 19, 2008 9:32 AM CDT
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"term: pussy, user: larry, count: 11
term: pussy, user: all, count: 83" - wiz
by Where Triples Go to Die on
Sep 19, 2008 9:42 PM CDT
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who the fuck are you?
what the fuck are you talking about?
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term: pussy, user: all, count: 83" - wiz
by Where Triples Go to Die on
Sep 19, 2008 9:42 PM CDT
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stop whining, sox fans.
cannot wait to see how sox finish the season. go home or make the playoff. very curious.
by zj-uic on
Sep 19, 2008 12:12 AM CDT
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go back to hell.
brian anderson would've caught that...
by BuehrleMan on
Sep 19, 2008 12:13 AM CDT
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i can't believe how much bitching and moaning there already is in this thread
and cheat put up such a solid recap too.
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
by colintj on
Sep 19, 2008 1:00 AM CDT
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Because everyone already knows that Ramirez sucks...
The real story is the brutal offense. As awful as Ramirez was, it didn’t really matter because the offense only scored two runs. So it’s not like Ramirez spoiled a possibility of a tie or a lead by the Sox. Why scapegoat one crappy reliever when we have a whole lineup of suck that should be bashed?
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
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Sep 19, 2008 1:15 AM CDT
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Because whereas the team hitting has been anywhere from average to above average
the entire year, Horacio Ramirez has not shown he can be that. So when I see a slump from an offense that’s worked before and just so happens to be missing its biggest contributor, I say, “Hey! You know what, Colin? These boys done done it before! I reckon this here’s just a slump!”
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by colintj on
Sep 19, 2008 9:57 AM CDT
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How many games has Ramirez cost the Sox?
How many games has the crappy offense cost the Sox?
Ramirez is definitely not the bigger story.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on
Sep 19, 2008 10:17 AM CDT
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The crappy offense that's been average to above average all year?
Fail.
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by colintj on
Sep 19, 2008 10:25 AM CDT
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Not lately.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on
Sep 19, 2008 10:26 AM CDT
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Attn:
This is reality, not some magic abstraction where everything functions at a constant rate so you can understand it more easily.
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Sep 19, 2008 10:28 AM CDT
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do you really say reckon to yourself?
"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."
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all the damn time
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No lie. Nice way to wake up.
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you ain't kiddin' yo
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Good to see Ozzie questioning the team's effort...
“Horrible,” manager Ozzie Guillen summed up. "We don’t pitch well. We don’t hit at all. We don’t have anything going forward right now. If we want to get to where we want to get, we better start playing better. In general, offensively, defensively, pitching, the relievers, it’s going to be tough for us to compete.
"Everyone has to push as hard as we can and as long as we can. We only have 11/2 weeks left. We fight all the way to now. Why do we have to lay down now? We have to get up and keep fighting because nobody said it was going to be easy, especially here. But we have to realize that.
“Right now we aren’t playing like we’re in the pennant race.”
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
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Sep 19, 2008 1:23 AM CDT
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I love that line...
“Right now we aren’t playing like we’re in the pennant race.” I could not agree more. Still, I am very hopeful about the KC series.
"What now? Let me tell you what now. I'ma call a coupla hard, pipe-hittin' n*****s, who'll go to work on the homes here with a pair of pliers and a blow torch. You hear me talkin', hillbilly boy? I ain't through with you by a damn sight. I'ma get medieval on your ass."
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Sep 19, 2008 8:32 AM CDT
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"I've made no secret my disdain for Horacio Ramirez. When the Sox acquired him, I simply stated that he'sucks'."
link?
imposter!
’’We have the horses. Everyone has to stay positive and keep grinding." -Kenny
"Its almost gotten to be obscene that we cant get a man in from third base." -Hawk
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They’ve traded Paulo Orlando, who sucks, and was probably one of the prospects Wilder used to skim money from the Sox, for Kansas City’s Horacio Ramirez, who also sucks, but has found success by throwing junk in the strike zone out of the Kansas City pen.
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Sep 19, 2008 8:02 AM CDT
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wow, shitty reliever acquired hastily for crap from a last-place scrap heap performs like shit. film at 11.
i’m more concerned with what the fuck has been going on with javy all damn year. i know he was on short rest for this game but damn, what a shitty outing and season-long mastery of inconsistency.
I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.
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Javy Dent is Javy Dent.
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Sep 19, 2008 9:58 AM CDT
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I'm more concerned about what the fuck Ozzie is thinking in sending HoRam out to the mound every time there are RISP and we need a goddam out.
A 3-run deficit is not impossible to overcome, and it seems like if Ozzie had any interest in us winning the game, he should turn to a more reliable reliever (which, at this point, is ANY OF THEM, INCLUDING BOONE FUCKING LOGAN). I would have bet the barn that HoRam was going to come in and give up runs. He needed ONE OUT.
What’s Ozzie’s email, seriously, I feel compelled to use it this time.
More concerned about where the hell Russell is? Or Carrasco?
When was the last time we saw Nessie do anything but warm up in the bullpen?
My most untrusted relievers (I don’t look at stats), in the order of who gives me the worst bellyache when he trots out of the pen:
HoRam
Wasserman
Logan
Dotel (he can be good, at times, and when we have room to give up a homer or two)
Why does it seem that these are the 4 guys who take the mound every game?
ugggggh.
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Sep 19, 2008 8:35 AM CDT
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If *I* were manager
I’d have BA in CF a lot over the remaining games. Given his glove I think he’d provide more of what the Sox need than KGJR (i.e. run prevention). It’s not like Jr. is knocking the cover off the ball.
For LF…Wise? Has the pixie-dust worn off? I wouldn’t be upset if Ozzie played Swisher the next few ganmes. He’s been sucking hard, but the offense is so bad you almost have to take a chance that he’ll break out because he’s the only potential plus offensive player on the bench right now.
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Sep 19, 2008 9:05 AM CDT
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pixie dust still in effect.
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Sep 19, 2008 11:22 PM CDT
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3 run difference with the bases juiced and how many outs?
our expected win percentage had to be no better than 30% there. It’s not the worst move ever, really.
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Sep 19, 2008 10:00 AM CDT
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i think ozzie figured
that with the bullpen being so horrible lately, they’d eventually have someone give up a few more runs over the last five innings, so the game was probably already a lost cause. no need to waste someone functional when another pitcher will blow any good done by the one positive inning. Save the good arms for games you can win.
This does not mean I find Horacio to be something other than a giant turd with a glove.
brndnprkns: I'm pretty sure the "badass" value of your life is closer to Gigli than The Dark Knight
by whitesoxmatt on
Sep 19, 2008 10:07 AM CDT
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Right
Ozzie did that all the time (well I thought so) in 2005. If Vizcaino came in, it was because the came was done, however seemingly close, and we needed an inning of shitty pitching.
That guy was my least favorite player on the entire team that year until the playoffs.
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by colintj on
Sep 19, 2008 10:16 AM CDT
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How does that logic factor into the fact that every game is essential? You think Ozzie glanced at the Twins losing score and opted for HoRam?
DJ and Nessie haven’t seen an inning in as far back as I can remember. How are they not rested? And how many games have other members of the bullpen pissed away in the meantime?
You steal whatever momentum from a 3-run game via pitching craptastic pitchers, and what motivation does our struggling offense have left for the rest of the game?
Not saying that our offense is to be trusted with a 3-run deficit these days. But digging the hole doesn’t help them either….
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by homesickalien on
Sep 19, 2008 10:18 AM CDT
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every game isn't essential
and cutting your losses means more effiicient deployment of resources
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by colintj on
Sep 19, 2008 10:22 AM CDT
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I kinda feel like we should try to win every game at this point. I don't think a couple innings on DJ or Russell's arms are going to wear them out for the "big games."
If I see HoRam make one appearance in the Twins series, by this logic, I will burn down Chicago.
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by homesickalien on
Sep 19, 2008 10:26 AM CDT
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It's just a matter of knowing when you're beat
4-1 with the bases juiced usually entails such.
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by colintj on
Sep 19, 2008 10:28 AM CDT
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He needed ONE OUT. Tell me another member could not have gotten out of that inning without runs scoring?
seriously…. the bases juiced should have nothing to do with it – other than to say, “Hey, this is a horrible time to bring in the Horrible!”
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by homesickalien on
Sep 19, 2008 10:34 AM CDT
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One out is actually a pretty easy feat for even the worst pitchers
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by colintj on
Sep 19, 2008 10:37 AM CDT
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Should be, Colin......should be.......not what I've seen from Ramirez so far. I wouldn't trust him with a 5-run lead at this point.
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by homesickalien on
Sep 19, 2008 10:42 AM CDT
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Even if you give up a run every three outs
doesn’t that mean there was a 66% chance he would record an out there?
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by colintj on
Sep 19, 2008 10:44 AM CDT
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Do you put him in with the bases loaded to let him try?
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by homesickalien on
Sep 19, 2008 10:47 AM CDT
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I might given the circumstances
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by colintj on
Sep 19, 2008 10:55 AM CDT
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you're such a fucking asshole.
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by homesickalien on
Sep 19, 2008 11:25 PM CDT
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that's not how probability works, Colin
Why so serious?
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Sep 19, 2008 11:04 AM CDT
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i figured there was a decent chance i was wrong there
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by colintj on
Sep 19, 2008 1:35 PM CDT
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at least you figured that correctly.
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by homesickalien on
Sep 19, 2008 1:36 PM CDT
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it not about "big games"
its about using them in games where the Sox are more likely to win. Every game is a big game but my belief is that maximize the team’s chances of winning the most games is the best strategy. Using the more reliable resources there wouldn’t give them that opportunity in an unlikely win situation anyways.
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by whitesoxmatt on
Sep 19, 2008 10:30 AM CDT
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So what about the first game against the Yanks (iirc), when it was tied 2-2?
Who’d we throw in there in that unlikely win situation?
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by homesickalien on
Sep 19, 2008 10:33 AM CDT
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Matt did a good job of clarifying
but for the record, I’m only talking about this particular usage and the theory in general. Apply it elsewhere and you may find Ozzie’s fucked up.
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by colintj on
Sep 19, 2008 10:34 AM CDT
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I agree, and I have argued this point before (against larry, nonetheless).....
I just don’t consider a 3-run deficit game ovaahhh yet.
Those 3 guys on the bases were not guaranteed runs – it wasn’t quite time to hang it up and get HoRam in.
And if that was really his thought pattern (“this game is lost, let’s use the worst of the worst”), then why not have HoRam finish the damn game, let the Yanks have some batting practice, let that guy get another home run ball to right field, and let others get some souvenirs they CAN take from the park, and make HoRam so definitively unusable, that the rest of us don’t have to get that sinking feeling anymore when he gets called from the pen?
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by homesickalien on
Sep 19, 2008 10:42 AM CDT
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It's frustrating for sure
and keep in mind I didn’t actually see the game, so the specifics aren’t exactly clear to me. But by and large Ozzie does a good job handling the staff. I’ll take that over a night’s frustrations.
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by colintj on
Sep 19, 2008 10:54 AM CDT
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I agree - I have defended him at many turns. But lately, for several reasons, it's been tougher to stand up for him.
I love the guy and ultimately trust him.
But he’s testing my patience. Not just last night’s game…
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by homesickalien on
Sep 19, 2008 10:56 AM CDT
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AND ONE MORE THING -
I nearly cried when BA came in and hit a double – to send Mussina to the dug-out.
WHY DIDN’T BA START INSTEAD OF GRIFFEY?
This will be my subject line of the email to Ozzie.
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by homesickalien on
Sep 19, 2008 8:36 AM CDT
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plz to be posting the content of said email
remember to make fun of venezuela.
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by colintj on
Sep 19, 2008 10:00 AM CDT
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I don't think we are done, but shit needs to come together quick. Offense and pitching namely (amazing that our defense is the one thing that isn't totally suck lately). Ozzie needs to pull his head out of his ass too.
It’s amusing how volatile this thread is today. It’s evident that we are all a little edgy after the latest ugly loss. (And the 9th-inning Twins finish against the Rays last night didn’t help our spirits either, I imagine).
Hopefully we can prove ourselves in the final week and not limp into the playoffs.
This was a tough series and we didn’t have our stuff – let’s move on and beat up KC, as we know we can do (just not the last time we went to KC).
:)
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Sep 19, 2008 9:04 AM CDT
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2005
In 2005, as all of you can remember, the Sox limped along until the last two weeks of the season. As much as momentum is disregarded in baseball, there was a turning point when Crede hit a big time homerun (Can’t remember specifics, no time for research). The Sox need that spark. Something to get their blood pumping. Unfortunately, the Twinkies may have found theirs last night.
"Why don't you go back to your home on whore mountain?"
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Sep 19, 2008 9:09 AM CDT
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Exactly what I was thinking!....that the Twins just got a surge while the Sox were scraping their bodies off of the field at Yankee Stadium.
I won’t give up hope or believing until it’s over….
But we definitely need that spark.
I can’t help but wonder how deflated the team feels when Ozzie chooses the worst reliever to enter a game that isn’t yet lost? As a player, I would not really feel inspired at that point….the spark is being suppressed by Ozzie’s shitty managing at the moment.
And to not start BA – a guy who has consistently hit in every game he weasels into and has a great record against the Sox-killing starting pitcher?…..spark suppression.
We are lucky to have this 4-game series (albeit the Royals are on a tear of their own lately) and not facing an AL East team this weekend instead. I just hope we can USE the Royals to get that spark lit, to carry into the Terrordome next week…..for the ultimate of penultimates series! :)
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Sep 19, 2008 9:34 AM CDT
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AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHhh
season ovah
takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm
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Sep 19, 2008 9:31 AM CDT
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FFS - stop bloody moaning
Still massive favs to make the playoffs, so what they looked knackered, they’ll be better against KC I’m betting we start to see the ball get twatted out of the park again tonight.
....fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts
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Sep 19, 2008 9:34 AM CDT
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twatted.
heh heh.
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by homesickalien on
Sep 19, 2008 9:38 AM CDT
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Kansas City has won 7 in a row...
Granted, against Cleveland and Seattle (that was my preseason ALCS matchup—FAIL), so this series won’t be easy by any stretch of the imagination.
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by UribeAuction on
Sep 19, 2008 10:00 AM CDT
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they are due a loss then
....fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts
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Knackered - rec'd again, even though it's already green.
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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT
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Sorry I'm in a bit of a long-winded rant mode this morning.....as opposed to normal when I am into the whole brevity thing......
:)
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by homesickalien on
Sep 19, 2008 9:51 AM CDT
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you're only brief in email.
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by colintj on
Sep 19, 2008 10:02 AM CDT
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People seem to forget that the Sox sucked it up down the stretch in 2005
It was pretty hairy there, worse even because unlike this year, the Sox let a huge lead dwindle to a game or two.
Does this mean the sox are an absolute lock to make the playoffs? No. But I like our chances.
Anyway, just chill out and enjoy relevant September White Sox baseball, peeps.
White Sox, that’s baseball.
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Sep 19, 2008 10:01 AM CDT
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I AM!
Enjoying my coffee…..
enjoying my coffee…..
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Sep 19, 2008 10:07 AM CDT
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I'm sick of the excuses...
“But the Royals have won seven in a row…”
Fuck that, they are still an awful last place team and anything less than winning two of three against them would be a massive disappointment.
If we have to worry about the freaking Royals, why even worry about getting to the playoffs?
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on
Sep 19, 2008 10:22 AM CDT
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And why even watch baseball for that matter!?
booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by homesickalien on
Sep 19, 2008 10:23 AM CDT
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You counted out this Sox team in April
Why are you even watching still?
White Sox, that’s baseball.
by vince_ on
Sep 19, 2008 10:24 AM CDT
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I expect the Sox to beat the Royals two of three in every series against them...
They fucking suck.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
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Sep 19, 2008 10:25 AM CDT
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Why is it that when the Royals go on a streak they suck in spite of it
but when the Sox go on a slump, that’s actually what they are?
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by colintj on
Sep 19, 2008 10:26 AM CDT
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touche.
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by homesickalien on
Sep 19, 2008 10:27 AM CDT
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The Royals do suck, though.
Hopefully a little more than we do!
:P heeeheeeheeeeheeehee
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Sep 19, 2008 10:28 AM CDT
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Thank you...
Royals streak or no streak, the Sox should win two of three this weekend.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on
Sep 19, 2008 10:29 AM CDT
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Did I say the Royals don't suck?
Who the hell thinks the Royals are good? Approximately no one outside Royals Review.
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by colintj on
Sep 19, 2008 10:31 AM CDT
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i don't even think they believe
"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."
by U-God on
Sep 19, 2008 11:22 AM CDT
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So you are actually going to tell me that the Royals are a good team, streak or no streak?
More preemptive excuses in case the Sox blow against the Royals…
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on
Sep 19, 2008 10:27 AM CDT
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Is that the point you think I'm trying to make?
I’m just looking for some logical consistency from you. It isn’t clear why I ask this since at every turn you non sequitur your way through any and all arguments.
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Sep 19, 2008 10:30 AM CDT
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Should the Sox win two of three this weekend?
and if they don’t win the series this weekend, will it be a huge disappointment?
Yes and yes.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on
Sep 19, 2008 10:31 AM CDT
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I don't get hugely disappointed by baseball
but I think they are good to win 2 of 3.
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by colintj on
Sep 19, 2008 10:34 AM CDT
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Why even bother?
I liked this site when it was about the White Sox.
Now it’s become a site about psychoanalyzing SSH. Which is fucking Boring
White Sox, that’s baseball.
by vince_ on
Sep 19, 2008 10:32 AM CDT
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Well, we all have to look at your awful avatar so let's call it even.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on
Sep 19, 2008 10:33 AM CDT
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Your attacks are Fucking Boring, too
White Sox, that’s baseball.
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Sep 19, 2008 10:34 AM CDT
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Avatars are tiny
Retardation is by far the bigger issue.
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by colintj on
Sep 19, 2008 10:35 AM CDT
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Retards don't contribute to society...
Hmmm…
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
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Sep 19, 2008 10:40 AM CDT
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Describe for me in exquisite details the exact nature of the software you
are responsible for maintaining? Something something golf tee times?
Way to keep the world turning, slugger.
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Sep 19, 2008 10:42 AM CDT
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Says the guy with no job...
who probably still mooches off his parents? Give me a fucking break, son.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
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Sep 19, 2008 10:43 AM CDT
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I have a job and go to one of the best schools in the world
and am clearly in line to actually contribute to society. I’ll take wealthy and loving parents and a glut of opportunity over PPD, tee times and shit filled diapers any day of the week.
But hey, yours was clever too.
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"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on
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you just aren't funny or clever
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I think it's hilariously fitting.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
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yeah. see above.
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yeah. look at the picture.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on
Sep 19, 2008 10:57 AM CDT
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by colintj on
Sep 19, 2008 11:00 AM CDT
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Looks more like you fialed...
Haha.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on
Sep 19, 2008 11:01 AM CDT
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You're still using the 'college kid, no job, mooching off the parents' as a serious insult? Seriously?
Lame.
by CWSKeith on
Sep 19, 2008 12:16 PM CDT
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He called me a retard...
I responded in kind.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on
Sep 19, 2008 12:19 PM CDT
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So, I should respond to you by posting your baby registry?
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Sep 19, 2008 12:28 PM CDT
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Go for it...
Do you actually think I did that? Haha, that’s all my wife.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on
Sep 19, 2008 1:00 PM CDT
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I think his statement was a way of demonstrating how your perception of our sucking, er, sucks. Not a set-up for excuses....
Teams are allowed to play imperfectly. We’ve taken some major hits in the second half of our season – but the Sox are still the better team. We do not suck.
We are sucking, presently, with the potential, talent, and team to fix it.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on
Sep 19, 2008 10:31 AM CDT
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happy friday.

that was for consistency’s sake. and it’s all i got. it’s sunny and in the 60s and 70s here all weekend. tonight is my morning jacket outdoors at the greek. tomorrow is hiking and three breweries in sonoma and marin. sunday is football all day at kezar. it’s going to be a good weekend, regardless of what the “chokers” do. (also, just wondering, if choking is about pressure, how is it guys can perform one night and then not the next against the same team in the same stadium? whoops, my bad…logic butchered and wood chippered).
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by Toonderstrook on
Sep 19, 2008 10:45 AM CDT
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I'll be in KC this weekend
Tonight and Sunday’s Sox games, with the Mizzou game in between. And it’ll be a good weekend no matter what the Sox do, because I get to hang out with some friends I haven’t seen since graduation. Apparently, I’m not much of a fan.
Chip, chip, chip, chip.
Sox Machine
by Sox Machine on
Sep 19, 2008 10:48 AM CDT
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FUCK LOGIC GIMME SOME BEER TITTAYS
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by colintj on
Sep 19, 2008 10:51 AM CDT
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Well, I'm afraid the weather has finally broken up here. Onto a winter of gloooomm....
I’ll be spending my weekend at the coast, surfing in the rain, and not watching the games.
I will still be channeling my positive vibes, though, and checking in if/when I can…
Enjoy MMJ – last I saw them was outside in Milwaukee a few years back. Great live show. Jim James really sounds like that…
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on
Sep 19, 2008 10:54 AM CDT
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MMJ?
i thought you didn’t like big hip indie bands??!
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by colintj on
Sep 19, 2008 10:57 AM CDT
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remember this comment? it applies to other music as well.
it’s one of my favorite albums too, when i’m not being a dead/phish hippie fuck.
by Toonderstrook on Sep 12, 2008 12:40 PM PDT on Shaun Marcum is Built to Beat the White Sox
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Sep 19, 2008 10:59 AM CDT
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i don't remember anything
i live in the moment.
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by colintj on
Sep 19, 2008 1:36 PM CDT
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you and ssh both.
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Sep 19, 2008 1:37 PM CDT
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Toonder -- may I recommend "The Enemy (UK) - We'll Live and Die in These Towns". Not quite Arctic Monkeys level ass kicking, but still a relatively decent amount of ass kicking.
by CWSKeith on
Sep 19, 2008 11:32 AM CDT
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you may and i will heed your recommendation.
also, spoon here for three nights next week. chicago is a great music town, but nothing like the quantity and quality of acts that are out here on a regular basis.
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Sep 19, 2008 11:57 AM CDT
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warning: I saw Spoon in 2003 or 2004 in Chicago...Riv, I believe...
I was there, ready to party and dance and enjoy some fun music…
But I was the only one apparently.
The crowd was so freaking lame, it was unreal – just a bunch of white people sitting, yes sitting, around, maybe nodding their heads when “The Way We Get By” was played. Not even some excitement for the amazing live rendition of “My Mathematical Mind,” which blew me away.
BOOOO white people at concerts, you lame-ass mother-fuckers!
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
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Sep 19, 2008 12:02 PM CDT
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i woulda bopped with you
Spoon is really fun to rock to. even better with all those crazy drugs on the west coast i imagine.
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by colintj on
Sep 19, 2008 1:38 PM CDT
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no no no no no
there’s absolutely no comparison between Chicago and SF for live music. I’d much rather be at the Hideout block party this weekend than watching Lynyrd Skynyrd wannabes in Berkeley (though the amount of weed smoked at that gig will be astounding).
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Sep 19, 2008 1:12 PM CDT
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then this is a good weekend for you! have a blast.
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by Toonderstrook on
Sep 19, 2008 1:14 PM CDT
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would be good if...
I lived in Chicago. Can’t really complain about living in SF though, on balance.
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Sep 19, 2008 1:29 PM CDT
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true indeed for that. yes sir.
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by Toonderstrook on
Sep 19, 2008 1:37 PM CDT
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who's playing the block party?
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by colintj on
Sep 19, 2008 1:40 PM CDT
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Neko Case headlining Saturday
Full lineup here
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Sep 19, 2008 2:06 PM CDT
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i thought the new pornos were involved in that shit
i am jelis
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by colintj on
Sep 19, 2008 2:15 PM CDT
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Geez...I drop in to find lots of folks with sand up their bikini bottoms
Allow me to paraphrase from Goodfellas…“The Sox are big boys, they know what they’re doing.”
The bottom line is the Sox continue (at least for now) to control their destiny. So, they can continue to have cold bats and a GFS bullpen, or they can buck up like men, light a fire under their collective asses and put this thing away.
If not, they deserve to watch the playoffs on TV, or go golfing, or fishing, or join a wrestling league, etc.
On a more upbeat note…Happy 78th birthday Adam West!

"There will be surgery. It will heal. It will heal fast."- Carlos Quentin on NBC 5 News Chicago (9/5/08)
by tailgater on
Sep 19, 2008 11:03 AM CDT
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excellent.
And I am at least picking the sand out….
It was a rough night.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on
Sep 19, 2008 11:15 AM CDT
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Pick those crabs out while you're at it...
joking, haha.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on
Sep 19, 2008 11:27 AM CDT
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It's Friday
and that means chili for lunch
hooray
"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."
by U-God on
Sep 19, 2008 11:24 AM CDT
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are you in prison or something?
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by homesickalien on
Sep 19, 2008 11:26 AM CDT
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we have pizza fridays
dominicks has 5 dollar pizzas and someone goes and picks them up. its a big ordeal
brndnprkns: I'm pretty sure the "badass" value of your life is closer to Gigli than The Dark Knight
by whitesoxmatt on
Sep 19, 2008 11:28 AM CDT
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Yeah, my office does pizza and beer Fridays...
Someone orders Ledo’s Pizza from Countryside and someone goes to Jewel or Binny’s for beer.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on
Sep 19, 2008 11:32 AM CDT
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i wish we did beer fridays
but i have a feeling that some parents would frown on the thought of their children’s teachers drinking at school
brndnprkns: I'm pretty sure the "badass" value of your life is closer to Gigli than The Dark Knight
by whitesoxmatt on
Sep 19, 2008 11:33 AM CDT
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what do you do for a living
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by U-God on
Sep 19, 2008 11:34 AM CDT
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I work for a golf software company.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on
Sep 19, 2008 11:35 AM CDT
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changing the world
one old rich person with 8 woods in their bag at a time.
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by colintj on
Sep 19, 2008 1:42 PM CDT
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I am scared, SSH.
I used to frequent the Ledo’s in Countryside.
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by homesickalien on
Sep 19, 2008 11:48 AM CDT
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Not as much as the Beef n Brandy, though. mmmmmmmmmmm......3 AM B&B......
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on
Sep 19, 2008 11:53 AM CDT
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Maybe we had a one night stand and don't even remember it?
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on
Sep 19, 2008 11:56 AM CDT
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fuck no.
ewww.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on
Sep 19, 2008 11:59 AM CDT
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how would you know if you don't remember it? just sayin'...
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by Toonderstrook on
Sep 19, 2008 12:01 PM CDT
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I have never had a one-night stand. Nor have I ever been so drunk that I can't recall events. So the two together lead me to believe this did not occur.
:P
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by homesickalien on
Sep 19, 2008 12:03 PM CDT
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i don't believe you, at least on the second point. but well played, regardless.
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Sep 19, 2008 12:03 PM CDT
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Absolutely the truth. I have not given this site a reason to think I have been dishonest about anything I've ever said (that was not already a joke to begin).
So that’s the truth – I have been sick due to alcohol 5 times in my life – mostly because I stupidly mixed. Only one of those times gave me a hangover (a full bottle of chardonnay, consumed at home with my family).
Another one of those times was 3 weeks after I moved here, when Chiburb visited me. He and I drank so much over dinner that night, and I was so emotionally wrought with homesickness, that I went home and puked through tears. :)
Still to this day – one hangover in my life, and never so out of it that I forgot events. Seriously. I don’t really like the feeling of being drunk drunk…so I control it very well.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on
Sep 19, 2008 12:10 PM CDT
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very admirable.
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by Toonderstrook on
Sep 19, 2008 12:16 PM CDT
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C'mon baby...
We can change that. You never woke up not remembering or being embarrassed about what you did the night before? You don’t know what you are missing…
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on
Sep 19, 2008 12:17 PM CDT
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you are one creepy man
"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."
by U-God on
Sep 19, 2008 12:18 PM CDT
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You are invited too, U-God.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on
Sep 19, 2008 12:19 PM CDT
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TMI.
"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT
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Sep 19, 2008 1:57 PM CDT
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:)
You are TMI!
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by homesickalien on
Sep 19, 2008 1:59 PM CDT
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me neither!
this was meant to be. three way with SSH!
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by colintj on
Sep 19, 2008 1:42 PM CDT
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yikes
and yikes.
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by homesickalien on
Sep 19, 2008 1:49 PM CDT
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I used to get a $5 takenbake from Dominicks every Friday when I lived in Chi!
now….I have Safeways.
They suck.
And do not have $5 takenbake.
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by homesickalien on
Sep 19, 2008 11:47 AM CDT
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no...theirs are like $7. goi.
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by Toonderstrook on
Sep 19, 2008 11:58 AM CDT
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those are not that tasty as i recall
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Sep 19, 2008 1:41 PM CDT
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The Sox should be all over this guy in the offseason and see if Cooper can fix him...
Orioles placed RHP Daniel Cabrera on the 15-day disabled list, retroactive to Sept. 14, with a right medial elbow sprain.
Cabrera is done for the season and may be finished in Baltimore if the Orioles choose not to tender him a contract via arbitration. His age-27 campaign ends at 8-10 with a 5.25 ERA and 95/90 K/BB ratio in 180 innings.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on
Sep 19, 2008 11:38 AM CDT
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there is no fixing him
"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."
by U-God on
Sep 19, 2008 11:40 AM CDT
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If he comes cheaply, he would be worth a shot...
People said the same thing about Thornton, I’m sure. I didn’t think he could be fixed either.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
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Sep 19, 2008 11:41 AM CDT
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So are you saying we should turn him into a reliever?
cuz Leo Mazzone couldn’t even fix Cabrera
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Sep 19, 2008 11:45 AM CDT
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i take him every year with one of my last picks in the fantasy draft
and usually end up dropping him after his first 7 walk outing.
brian anderson would've caught that...
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Sep 19, 2008 11:48 AM CDT
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you brought this up earlier in the year when we talked about trading for roberts....
and the possibility of trading for them both….
i would like to see what cooper can do with him
takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm
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Sep 19, 2008 12:11 PM CDT
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yeah i think he'd be a great pickup
but i wonder if he’ll actually be under the radar. he’s had a high profile arm for a long time.
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by colintj on
Sep 19, 2008 1:44 PM CDT
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greg walker wants his props
http://www.baseball-reference.com/sotd/archives/773
darrin jackson? not so much…
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on
Sep 19, 2008 12:31 PM CDT
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make that darrin jackson too!
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on
Sep 19, 2008 12:32 PM CDT
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Wiz!
I didn’t welcome you back. And I hope whatever it is that was keeping you away (mom locked the basement? i know how that goes) has stopped doing that.
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Sep 19, 2008 1:44 PM CDT
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quick survey my US pals, what soccer team do you support?
and if you don’t support one, then what excuse have you got for not supporting Leeds Utd.
regards
....fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts
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Sep 19, 2008 12:34 PM CDT
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celtic
barcelona, too.
i’ve never been able to pick a premier league side, but among the top 4 i would first root for liverpool and always against chelsea. i’ve got a friend who is a baggies supporter so i follow them as well.
celtic looked awful in the old firm match and are going to get their asses handed to them by ManU in the champions league.
brian anderson would've caught that...
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Sep 19, 2008 12:53 PM CDT
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Celtic are a massive club
but they suffer from playing in a league with only competition from one club, the Old Firm have been desperate to join the EPL for years now, but it will never happen
....fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts
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