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Bobby Jenks' Missing Slider

Inspired by the discussion on whether or not to trade Bobby Jenks--a discussion I rather leave for another day, say, after the season is officially over--because of his decline in velocity and dwindling strikeout rate, I decided to take a look into the Pitch F/X data to see if we could learn anything. If I had chimed in on that discussion, which seemed to center on Jenks' fastball, I would have espoused that it was Jenks' curveball, or lack thereof, that is most responsible for his decline in strikeouts. After examining the data, however, it appears that neither the fastball nor the curveball is the missing pitch; it's his slider.

Here's another link to the data, culled from Josh Kalk's Pitch F/X tool. There are some serious caveats to apply to said data. For example, Kalk's tool only seemed to capture about 1/2 of all pitches last season (the top group in the linked table), and while we know Bobby did throw a cutter last season, Kalk's system either did not recognize them as such or chose to hide them under the greater fastball umbrella. With that in mind, you can take what you wish from the following information.

Jenks' strikes swining numbers are down almost across the board, with his fastball only missing bats on a surprisingly low 3.9% of pitches thrown, down from 7% last season. Those numbers can perhaps be explained by the bottom row of the spreadsheet which combines all types of fastball Jenks has thrown this season, resulting in a 5.8% strike swinging percentage and similar numbers to his '07 fastball in the other categories.

Jenks slider, however, has seen a precipitous drop in his strike swinging percentage that can't be explained away, down to 8.1% this year from 23.1% in '07. And while he's missing fewer bats, he's allowing more hits on balls in play (.571 BABIP in '08 vs. .150 in '07), both of which feel fluky on opposite ends of the spectrum. But, what those two numbers appear to be telling us, is that Jenks had batters off balance and weakly putting his slider in play last season, while this year they don't seem to be fooled at all.

That last thread was so lively, it was slowing down my Commodore 64.

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is regaining an effective slider possible?

i apologize for the silly question. if this is related to deterioration in skills, then fuck, if some team actually blows us out of the water with a great deal (unlikely), then trade him.

that said, i still wouldn’t activitely court the big boy. we still have 3 arbitration eligible years left on him, right, and overall he’s been effect in my seamless head world…

by onlysoxfaninboston on Sep 2, 2008 1:59 PM CDT   0 recs

and larry wins his battle with the cheat over the ten day rule.

Three promotions — Field, Getz and Broadway back with the Sox
By Mark Gonzales, 1:42 p.m.

CLEVELAND – Third baseman Josh Fields and infielder Chris Getz were promoted Tuesday from Triple-A Charlotte to the White Sox.

Fields and Getz are currently taking early batting practice with Jerry Owens and are available for Tuesday night’s game at Cleveland.

Feidls batted .246 with 10 home runs and 35 RBIs in 24 games with the Knights and was 4-for-22 during a promotion last month.

Getz batted .302 with 24 doubles, 11 home runs and 52 RBIs in 111 games and was named to the International League’s mid/post-season All-Star teams. Getz was 2-for-7 during a two-week callup with the Sox last month.

Pitcher Lance Broadway also was called up after a two-day stint on Charlotte’s roster.

The moves expand the Sox’s active roster to 33.
 

by larry on Sep 2, 2008 2:06 PM CDT   0 recs

After looking at our reinforcements it's difficult to believe

we have non-believers on this site. Getz? .286 AVG – stout. Fields at .181? Just getting started. Broadway? Why did they even send him down?

Katy-bar-the-effin-door. We are going all the way. I mean, General Geroge S. Patton would be slapping the $hiite our of the lot of you Nancy boys (and girls) who are losing faith. Do Not Stink Up My Clubhouse With Your Cowardice. It Is A Place Of Honor!

(PS Is it Fields, Feidls, or Field? I have to know how to spell my new hero’s name, fer Chrissakes.)

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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Sep 2, 2008 2:50 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

And it LOOKS like Austria. I KNEW it.

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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Sep 2, 2008 3:03 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Never pictured you as a "Soldier of Fortune" guy, larry.

Which Sox player would be likened to a flying tank? (Uribe can’t fly.)

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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Sep 2, 2008 3:24 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

If I don't buy BP, I don't buy S of F.

But you almost have me talked into subscribing to that White Sox-hating BP.

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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Sep 2, 2008 3:41 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

LOADING"*",8,1

Ha, funny. I’m wearing a Commodore 64 shirt today.

I get all the ladies.

Uribe whispered, "My precious child, I love you and will never leave you, never, ever, during your trials and testings. When you saw only one set of footprints, It was then that I carried you."

by thecip on Sep 2, 2008 2:41 PM CDT   0 recs

Tuesday’s White Sox-Indians lineups
Mark Gonzales, 3:20 p.m.

Tuesday night’s lineups:

SOX
Cabrera ss
Pierzynski c
Quentin lf
Dye rf
Thome dh
Konerko 1b
Swisher cf
Ramirez 2b
Crede 3b
Danks p

CLEVELAND
Sizemore cf
Gutierrez rf
Francisco lf
Peralta ss
V. Martinez dh
Garko 1b
Shoppach lf
Marte 3b
A. Cabrera 2b
Carmona p
 

by larry on Sep 2, 2008 3:30 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

turnabout is fair play?

Carlos Quentin scratched for Jerry Owens because of forearm soreness, and Mark Buehrle had to leave the team to be with his wife. 38 minutes ago

by larry on Sep 2, 2008 4:54 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

September 2, 2008: The Return of Jerry Owens

by larry on Sep 2, 2008 4:58 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Does that picture indicate JR's willingness to be BAzzled in the azzle?

No wonder why he’s called General Soreness.

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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Sep 2, 2008 3:42 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

(Crickets.)

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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Sep 2, 2008 3:56 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

(horseflies).

"maybe we could stop and pick up some tabasco?"

by Toonderstrook on Sep 2, 2008 4:15 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I just wanted to know about the porn mode

and if it rendered the site properly

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Sep 2, 2008 3:59 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

My open-source acolyte friend

is a fan. He persuaded me to download it. Been using it today. Very, very snappy. Can’t find any rendering problems at all. And I like the tabs above the address bar.

by expatnyc on Sep 2, 2008 4:03 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Free porn on SSS?

NOW you’re talking.

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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Sep 2, 2008 4:03 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

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