"[W]e don't act like we are in first place. We don't look like the team to beat. It seems like we are hoping for a win every day, and I don't think that that's the right attitude. Once the other team scores before us, that's what it seems like.
"One of the things we are missing right now is we don't know how to trail," Cabrera said. "Once the other team scores before us, it seems like we lose hope.
"I saw that yesterday. It was really pathetic,"
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three games in loss column. no way they can hold off the twins. jump now and save yourself the misery of watching the sox win the division.
fight like a cat: paws up. - ozzie
by larry on Sep 21, 2008 5:48 PM CDT 0 recs
he's right
Still, a playoff berth will make me really happy, regardless of what happens in the playoffs.
I’ll be at the Thursday Twins/Sox game.
by shaftr on Sep 21, 2008 5:51 PM CDT 0 recs
OC's comments -- An honest assessment by a guy who's been solid for us all season
by RoyEgan on Sep 21, 2008 5:58 PM CDT 0 recs
i suppose it's interesting to hear it from a player.
but this isn’t anything groundbreaking. tallest midget contest.
fight like a cat: paws up. - ozzie
by larry on
Sep 21, 2008 6:00 PM CDT
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k, ssh.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on
Sep 21, 2008 6:01 PM CDT
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I likes it.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on
Sep 21, 2008 6:00 PM CDT
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can i rec oc?
anyone want to resign this guy yet? I DO and DID way before Phil Rogers said it.
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term: pussy, user: all, count: 83" - wiz
by Where Triples Go to Die on
Sep 21, 2008 7:19 PM CDT
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NEVER, NEVER, NEVER!!!!!
Everyone get down on their knees tonight.........
and say a little (or maybe a medium sized) prayer for the Sox bullpen. Call in some chits.
by ballyb on
Sep 21, 2008 9:08 PM CDT
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As larry rightly points out, 3 in the L column
with 7 (?) to play is huge. Not saying it’s a lock, but they would literally have to blow it.
They’re certainly capable of doing so, but so what? They make the playoffs or they don’t.
Of course I’m into every pitch of every remaining game, but considering our best projections before this marathon started, who, besides the aSSHole can complain?
Note to the former Cheat: if he’s negative enough to reference in a game recap, why is he still allowed to pollute the site?
In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.
by Chiburb on Sep 21, 2008 6:04 PM CDT 0 recs
word who cares what ssh says neways
anyone want my playoff predictions?
"term: pussy, user: larry, count: 11
term: pussy, user: all, count: 83" - wiz
by Where Triples Go to Die on
Sep 21, 2008 7:22 PM CDT
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Twins basically have to sweep...
if they want to win the division. That’s certainly a possibility (terrible things have happened in that ballpark before), but the Sox are definitely in the driver’s seat. If the Sox win even one game, they still are in control going into the final weekend, and if they win two or more, it’s all over.
I don’t know what it means to “lose hope” once they fall behind. Do the hitters fall victim to despair and are unable to make solid contact?
by The Jerry Royster Experience on Sep 21, 2008 6:09 PM CDT 0 recs
it's about saying "it's not my fault they quit"
heading into free agency.
In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.
by Chiburb on
Sep 21, 2008 6:11 PM CDT
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i think it's an atmospheric thing. right up your alley.
fight like a cat: paws up. - ozzie
by larry on
Sep 21, 2008 6:23 PM CDT
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Maybe "losing hope"...
is why Dye and Griffey look like they have concrete shoes on while they’re running around out there. They’re too despondent to run fast.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on
Sep 21, 2008 6:25 PM CDT
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old, stale atmosphere.
fight like a cat: paws up. - ozzie
by larry on
Sep 21, 2008 6:27 PM CDT
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Very important to take at least one
or you can envision the collar tightening a bit. “Mo” would be with the Twinkerbelles if they sweep the Sox (no guarantee, since the Sox would only be down 1/2 game, but the trend wold not be our friend).
One game – not imperative, but surely needed. Two games, sing Sniff ‘n the Tears ("Driver’s Seat", for those not coming of age in the ’70’s).
"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT
by winningugly on
Sep 21, 2008 6:24 PM CDT
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great tune
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PykVUnlTqXE
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on
Sep 21, 2008 6:38 PM CDT
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Just one of three in Minny...
Subjectively speaking, I think Cabrera’s comments make sense as the offense has looked rather ‘lethargic’ (again — completely subjective) the past week or two. But lethargic usually means not scoring runs and as such I’m not sure that a statement like his holds much water going forward. They’re slumping a bit, and it doesn’t help that the offense’s best player is out, but even without Q the Sox still have an average-ish (maybe a tad below) offense.
So yeah… get one in the POS dome. That’s pretty reasonable.
BTW, it was nice to see dominant Jenks return — good fastball, good curve and that nice little cutter/slider. His performance was very encouraging.
by CWSKeith on Sep 21, 2008 6:22 PM CDT 0 recs
No, Jenks sucks. Get rid of him. He can't close.
"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT
by winningugly on
Sep 21, 2008 6:25 PM CDT
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lets trade him this offseason!
oh wait… that guy stopped posting here! bobbysouthside?
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term: pussy, user: all, count: 83" - wiz
by Where Triples Go to Die on
Sep 21, 2008 7:25 PM CDT
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I think we really caught a break by getting to miss Liriano....
he looked very good today and he would have faced us without us having the benefit of having seen him earlier in the year.
I am looking forward to having Javy back on regular rest Tuesday night…….
The attitude can’t be let’s just steal 1 of 3…..we need to win the series.
by stanchar on Sep 21, 2008 6:29 PM CDT 0 recs
Depends on what you mean by "need to win"...
the series.
If you mean they literally need to win the series, no. Unless the Sox get swept, they’ll probably still win the division.
If you mean it would be bad atmospherically if the Twins win the series, well, maybe.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on
Sep 21, 2008 6:35 PM CDT
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Say the Twins win 2 of 3...then it's at 1.5.....
I think it’s then very realistic to think that they sweep KC…..and CLE takes 2 of 3 from us….then we fight for survival against Det….then hopefully force the playoff against MIN….
by stanchar on
Sep 21, 2008 6:42 PM CDT
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It's also realistic to think we take 2 of 3 from CLE
by El Duque's Raft on
Sep 21, 2008 6:44 PM CDT
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nice fantasy baseball name
“the Elduque’s raft’s”
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term: pussy, user: all, count: 83" - wiz
by Where Triples Go to Die on
Sep 21, 2008 7:26 PM CDT
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NICE
“El Duque’s raft mates” would be good too.
"term: pussy, user: larry, count: 11
term: pussy, user: all, count: 83" - wiz
by Where Triples Go to Die on
Sep 21, 2008 8:42 PM CDT
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lol.
“very realistic”. only in the minds of crazy sox fans.
fight like a cat: paws up. - ozzie
by larry on
Sep 21, 2008 6:44 PM CDT
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"Very realistic"?
The scenario you describe basically forces the Twins to sweep in the final weekend. Sweeps are pretty rare, even at home against 70-win teams.
Any scenario where the Twins have to win their series AND the Sox have to lose their series means the Sox probably win the division.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on
Sep 21, 2008 6:45 PM CDT
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Right....KC can hopefully take 1 of 3......I feel very good about the fact that Banister won't be pitching in Minneapolis.
by stanchar on
Sep 21, 2008 6:46 PM CDT
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here's the "very realistic" scenario for you, stan.
sox clinch on saturday.
fight like a cat: paws up. - ozzie
by larry on
Sep 21, 2008 6:50 PM CDT
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the sox don't necessarily have to win in order to clinch, do they stan.
fight like a cat: paws up. - ozzie
by larry on
Sep 21, 2008 6:55 PM CDT
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save?
because i have to point out the obvious?
fight like a cat: paws up. - ozzie
by larry on
Sep 21, 2008 6:58 PM CDT
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no because you didn't realize we were facing C Lee....
by stanchar on
Sep 21, 2008 6:59 PM CDT
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irrelevant for the analysis.
fight like a cat: paws up. - ozzie
by larry on
Sep 21, 2008 6:59 PM CDT
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your problem, like many others, is too look so closely at the matchups that you miss the forest for the trees.
fight like a cat: paws up. - ozzie
by larry on
Sep 21, 2008 6:59 PM CDT
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at least we are 2-1 in our last 3 road games
=X
"term: pussy, user: larry, count: 11
term: pussy, user: all, count: 83" - wiz
by Where Triples Go to Die on
Sep 21, 2008 7:27 PM CDT
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BTW....in case it gets there.....
the Sep 29th game against Detroit would be Buehrle vs Robertson
by stanchar on Sep 21, 2008 6:30 PM CDT 0 recs
I thought Robertson got taken out of the rotation, no?
by El Duque's Raft on
Sep 21, 2008 6:32 PM CDT
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well....i see him listed as wednesday's starter....
it acutally i think will be Galaragga
by stanchar on
Sep 21, 2008 6:35 PM CDT
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i guess if the tigers want to destroy the arm of their only bright spot in the rotation, sure.
fight like a cat: paws up. - ozzie
by larry on
Sep 21, 2008 6:39 PM CDT
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to el duque. david. not nate.
fight like a cat: paws up. - ozzie
by larry on
Sep 21, 2008 6:34 PM CDT
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Do the Twins have any one going on 3 days rest in this series?
by El Duque's Raft on Sep 21, 2008 6:39 PM CDT 0 recs
Was anyone else surprised at how much Tampa celebrated clinching a playoff spot?
I understand that the organization has been through a lot and this is a big step in the right direction, but they’re still in a tight race for the division. Certainly grabbing a spot in the playoffs is nothing to scoff at. It seemed like it was a bit over the top.
by El Duque's Raft on Sep 21, 2008 6:53 PM CDT 0 recs
perhaps it goes to show how teams view the difference between the division and wild card as being not particularly relevant.
fight like a cat: paws up. - ozzie
by larry on
Sep 21, 2008 6:56 PM CDT
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First playoff berth in franchise history?
Means a little don’t you think?
I was a little surprised at how much the Cubbies celebrated yesterday. Though it may have been moreso for the fans (spraying them with champagne=aiding to frat boy’s date rapes), winning a division shouldn’t matter much to them. That being said, I still would love to see the Sox have some fun after clinching the Central, perhaps burning an effigy of Punto.
"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"
by Ozzie Montana on
Sep 21, 2008 7:03 PM CDT
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No I agree, it does
I just thought it was a bit over the top considering the division is still on the line. Maybe it’s more like what larry said and teams really don’t care what they win as long as they’re in.
by El Duque's Raft on
Sep 21, 2008 7:05 PM CDT
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i think that's the case.
now, if they celebrate as much/more if and when they clinch the division, i’ll be with you.
fight like a cat: paws up. - ozzie
by larry on
Sep 21, 2008 7:06 PM CDT
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My Sox '09 lineup
3B C Figgins
CF R Baldelli
LF Q
DH Thome
RF Dye
1B Swisher
SS Alexei
C AJ
2B Uribe/A Kennedy platoon
by stanchar on Sep 21, 2008 6:58 PM CDT 0 recs
to the pitching for a sec.....
my destination for Mr. Jenks is Tampa Bay
by stanchar on
Sep 21, 2008 7:02 PM CDT
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For Baldelli?
I’m something of a believer in trading relievers at their peak, because they’re so volatile, but I wouldn’t give up anything of value for Baldelli. He’d be worth a flyer as a free agent, but I’m not convinced that he’ll ever be productive and healthy for any length of time.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on
Sep 21, 2008 7:07 PM CDT
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If they were to trade Jenks anywhere
I’d prefer the NL
by El Duque's Raft on
Sep 21, 2008 7:09 PM CDT
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why would the sox trade for a free agent.
fight like a cat: paws up. - ozzie
by larry on
Sep 21, 2008 7:09 PM CDT
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I don't know if Baldelli is a free agent...
or not. I just saw Baldelli’s name in Stanchar’s lineup.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on
Sep 21, 2008 7:11 PM CDT
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I think Rocco is a FA...not sure....
definitely enough young talent in that organization to find a match for Bobby…..they need a proven closer and of course will not sign KROD…..
by stanchar on
Sep 21, 2008 7:10 PM CDT
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Zobrist, Sonnanstine, C Bradford, and a
significant AA or AAA prospect for Bobby would do it for me.
by stanchar on
Sep 21, 2008 7:11 PM CDT
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It would for me, too.
I don’t think it would do it for the Rays, though.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on
Sep 21, 2008 7:13 PM CDT
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I think it would.....
Bradford means nothing to them….but gives us another veteran arm in our pen.
Sonnanstine has had a nice season…..but they can just plug in Price to go with Kaz, Shields, Jackson, etc…
Zobrist isn’t that valuable to them either…
by stanchar on
Sep 21, 2008 7:15 PM CDT
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I don't think they give up Sonnanstine...
he’s more valuable than Jenks by himself.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on
Sep 21, 2008 7:18 PM CDT
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yea i would give up jenks
for Sonnanstine straight up
by Jbasic89 on
Sep 21, 2008 8:27 PM CDT
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Kennedy is due to make about 3 mil or so next year.....and the Cards will dump him...most Sox would
have to pay is about a mil….and he’s had a couple of down years….but I think he’s a pretty decent 9 hitter and has a decent glove.
by stanchar on
Sep 21, 2008 7:01 PM CDT
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They already have Chris Getz.
There’s no reason to bring in the 2B version of Darin Erstad.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on
Sep 21, 2008 7:03 PM CDT
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broken wrist doesn't bode well for early season success.
fight like a cat: paws up. - ozzie
by larry on
Sep 21, 2008 7:06 PM CDT
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Oh yes there is
This team lacks hustle.
"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"
by Ozzie Montana on
Sep 21, 2008 7:04 PM CDT
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i like the idea.
eminently disposable if getz outplays him and wins the job. adam is a good glove to have, especially with my reservations about ramirez at SS.
fight like a cat: paws up. - ozzie
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