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Danks Blanks Royals, We Look Ahead

While I was busy watching the Bears snatch defeat from the jaws of victory at a balmy Soldier Field, Dewayne Wise, Paul Konerko and John Danks filled the White Sox highlight reel, as the Sox took the rubber match in Kansas City. More importantly, they maintained their 2.5 game lead over the Twins as they head for a season-deciding 3-game set in the Humpdome on Tuesday.

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The working margin is extremely important, as the Sox have struggled in domes this season (2-12, including 1-5 against Minnesota) and traditionally have folded in September against the Twins. [Looking it up, that appears to be a Jerry Manuel era trait. Ozzie Guillen's Sox have fared much better in late season matchups with the Twins (13-9 after Aug 31st).]

The White Sox Magic Number sits at 5, which means that 2 wins in Minnesota essentially eliminates the Twins; since they'd have to win out and have the Sox lose out just to force a 1-game playoff. 1 win in Minnesota lowers the Magic Number to 3, and makes for an uncomfortable final weekend; but a final weekend that probably comes out in the Sox favor. Essentially, the Sox are just looking to avoid a sweep. Though, I'd prefer 2 out of 3 just to get this thing finished.

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furbs is weally weally excited for da next series

takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm

by furby2056 on Sep 21, 2008 10:59 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Did anyone listen to Hawk today?

It only took him until game #155 to question the offense.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Sep 21, 2008 11:04 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Quit your complaining

The Sox took 2 out of 3 on the road from the Royals, which is what they needed to do in this series.

Pitching will win you games – Danks/Thorndog/Jenks only needed 1 run.

Just like there are no moral victories there are no “amoral losses.”

Just win.

So, please, STFU.

White Sox, that’s baseball.

by vince_ on Sep 21, 2008 11:10 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I am happy about the win...

I just thought it was funny that Hawk finally called out the offense. I thought he was still waiting for this team to hit their stride in game #155, lol.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Sep 21, 2008 11:16 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm fascinated to know what rhythm or stride Hawk is looking for.

He always talks about this and how the Sox haven’t hit it on a yearly basis. Is it some magical time when they win every game by at least 6 runs, the pitchers throw a shut out, and the defense plays flawless?

by El Duque's Raft on Sep 21, 2008 11:23 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

/jumps into the room in a chicken suit.

Did somebody say rhythm?!?

/Dumbfounded looks from other SSS posters

/Awkwardly retreats

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Sep 22, 2008 11:42 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Daggumit

Taking anything Harrelson said seriously… lol

by 815Sox on Sep 22, 2008 8:00 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ev'rybody funny.

"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Sep 22, 2008 9:47 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

"finally"?

i realize that one normally doesn’t listen to hawk but, if that’s the case, you probably shouldn’t be commenting on what he says when you do manage to hear.

fight like a cat: paws up. - ozzie

by larry on Sep 22, 2008 10:36 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

guess how many offense in the AL have scored more runs per game to date.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Sep 22, 2008 9:53 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

In context...

Both Hawk and DJ were bemoaning the failure to score w/ RISP — particularly w/a man on 3rd and less than two out. DJ then gave out a stat that something like 47% of our runs have come via long ball. Hawk said something like ’that’s just who we are right now."

by RoyEgan on Sep 21, 2008 11:24 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah, #1 OPS in the league w man on 3rd and less than 2 out by a big margin

We’re pathetic.

Team OPS man on 3rd/ < 2 out : 1.112

White Sox, that’s baseball.

by vince_ on Sep 21, 2008 11:33 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Further thought

Its hardly like I think the Sox are perfect. There are obvious holes on this team (cough cough bullpen), particularly with Q down. But if people are going to complain about the Sox, at least complain about something they are actually bad at!

White Sox, that’s baseball.

by vince_ on Sep 21, 2008 11:39 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Totally agree

why has it become an issue again that hitting home runs is the sin of all sins? I’ll blame Hawk and DJ for this.

by El Duque's Raft on Sep 21, 2008 11:45 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And since everyone is in the mood to bring up comparisons to the '05 team tonight

that team scored 42% of their runs via the long ball. So while the revisionist history of that team had them scoring all their runs from sac flies and suicide squeezes, it wasn’t much different from any of the Sox teams of this decade, offensively speaking.

by El Duque's Raft on Sep 21, 2008 11:49 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Scoring runs by HR is dirty

Its not like hitting a HR is the best possible outcome a batter can have in an at bat or anything.

White Sox, that’s baseball.

by vince_ on Sep 21, 2008 11:50 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

this all reminds me

of an argument i had with one of my roommates last year about baseball. he played in high school, i didn’t, so i knew i had no chance at changing his opinion. but he was convinced that a double was better than a homerun in late innings becasue it “starts a rally”. never mind that hitting a homerun scores a run instantly, he said that made the nxext batter fel like they had to start all over again from scratch.

this is the same kid who called me after our first test in asian mythology and asked me what the bhagdivad gita was though

"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."

by U-God on Sep 22, 2008 7:51 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Fucking idiot.

Didn’t know who / what the bhagavad gita was

Everyone get down on their knees tonight.........

and say a little (or maybe a medium sized) prayer for the Sox bullpen. Call in some chits.

by ballyb on Sep 22, 2008 7:54 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm sure you could find hundreds of people

Who don’t know what the Torah or the Koran are, either.

"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"

by Ozzie Montana on Sep 22, 2008 1:22 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hopefully not AFTER the first 6 weeks and midterm in a class on judaism or islam.

"i would like to take this opportunity to formally apologize for the events of the night of the twenty-third. i am not accustomed to drinking alcohol."

by Toonderstrook on Sep 22, 2008 1:26 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

thank you

"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."

by U-God on Sep 22, 2008 1:33 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The sot speaks!

How was your weekend? Are you doing the remake of “No One Gets Out Of Here Alive”, Lizard King?

;)

"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Sep 22, 2008 2:05 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i'm taking a detox day. 'nuff said.

"i would like to take this opportunity to formally apologize for the events of the night of the twenty-third. i am not accustomed to drinking alcohol."

by Toonderstrook on Sep 22, 2008 2:15 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Voluntary or "suggested"?

I’m watching A&E tonight. I fully expect your Mom to be on, crying, as you stick a rig in your arm.

(Mom): “NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! No more I can’t watch you do this to yourself!!!!!!!!”
(Toonder, crying, yet clearly agitated): “I’m OK! Really. I love you, Mom!”
(Therapist): “Toonder, if you really love her you’ll stop killing yourself.”
(Toonder, snaps angrily): “I know my limits! Who the eff are you????” (Pushes needle into vein, releases rubber hose from around his arm. Audibly sighs as he smiles.)
(Therapist): “Just someone who cares about you, son.”

All on “Intervention”, 9 PM EST. On A&E.

"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Sep 22, 2008 3:01 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

voluntary. wayyyyyyyyyyy too much magner's yesterday.

"i would like to take this opportunity to formally apologize for the events of the night of the twenty-third. i am not accustomed to drinking alcohol."

by Toonderstrook on Sep 22, 2008 3:06 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I have no idea what that is.

"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Sep 22, 2008 3:08 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

irish cider.

the problem is there was much beer on saturday and on sunday at 9 (you have to get to the bar early to get a good seat at the bears’ tv) cider sounded good. and it was until double-digit pints.

"i would like to take this opportunity to formally apologize for the events of the night of the twenty-third. i am not accustomed to drinking alcohol."

by Toonderstrook on Sep 22, 2008 3:09 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Magners is about as Irish as I am

....fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts

by hoodlight on Sep 22, 2008 3:13 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it's shit in the end regardless.

"i would like to take this opportunity to formally apologize for the events of the night of the twenty-third. i am not accustomed to drinking alcohol."

by Toonderstrook on Sep 22, 2008 3:13 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yes, you are dead right on that one

....fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts

by hoodlight on Sep 22, 2008 3:14 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

dr dre's new album dropped?

"term: pussy, user: larry, count: 11

term: pussy, user: all, count: 83" - wiz

by Where Triples Go to Die on Sep 22, 2008 3:47 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sadly

I doubt many people know what the gita is, but if you decide to take an Asian Myth class you prob. should

by 815Sox on Sep 22, 2008 7:56 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

thats the thing

i don’t expect a random honky off the street to know it, but when its a focal point of the class?

"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."

by U-God on Sep 22, 2008 12:09 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

bhagdivad git-out-of-here!

Really? No?

Retreats out of room slowly.

White Sox, that’s baseball.

by vince_ on Sep 22, 2008 12:34 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nice OPOS reference.

"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Sep 22, 2008 12:54 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

took it last fall

her name was Pandharipande

"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."

by U-God on Sep 22, 2008 3:05 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

when?

"i would like to take this opportunity to formally apologize for the events of the night of the twenty-third. i am not accustomed to drinking alcohol."

by Toonderstrook on Sep 22, 2008 3:06 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit. you're almost as old as wu!

"i would like to take this opportunity to formally apologize for the events of the night of the twenty-third. i am not accustomed to drinking alcohol."

by Toonderstrook on Sep 22, 2008 3:08 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

not quite, but it is scary that i have something in common

with the goddamn meddlin’ kids that pollute sss.

hey u-god, you know 5-style??

by onlysoxfaninboston on Sep 22, 2008 3:12 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

can't say that i do

"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."

by U-God on Sep 22, 2008 3:13 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that was buehrleman dude

"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."

by U-God on Sep 22, 2008 3:23 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeah, that was me

i probably saw them at least 10 times between champaign and chicago. leroy bach (from wilco) used to have a band called uptighty that was awesome and when he started 5ivestyle with bill dolan they used to open for uptighty.

brian anderson would've caught that...

by BuehrleMan on Sep 23, 2008 7:55 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeah i was still a student when

5style was based in chicago, so i only got to see them a couple times when they were in c-u. bill dolan is a guitar virtuoso, heroic doses were pretty good too…

by onlysoxfaninboston on Sep 23, 2008 8:26 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

She sounds divine, almost Greek.

"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Sep 22, 2008 3:06 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

far from divine

really boring

"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."

by U-God on Sep 22, 2008 3:14 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

On Sept. 21, 2005...

The Sox were 91-60 and 2.5 games ahead of Cleveland.

Division lead symmetry…catch it!

This whole “we can’t win in a dome” nonsense perplexes me. Is it too noisy? Is the lighting bad? Is the turf not to their liking? Is the pre-game buffet not up to snuff? Boo hoo…time to buck up and take care of business.

I’ve got tickets for next Saturday which I hope to be a fun and relaxing evening, not a “do or die” nightmare.

I think the Sox have a better than fair chance at taking 2 of 3 in MN…especially with Buehrle and Floyd going…Javy is always an adventure, so we’ll see how it all shakes out.

After we get to The Promised Land, the real fun begins. Are we really pinning our hopes on DeWayne Wise being a “difference maker”? Then again, we did have good old Geoff Blum back in ’05, right?

Please God, send your magic healing powers to Q! I’ll promise to stop sticking pins in my Derek Lee voodoo doll…I swear!

"There will be surgery. It will heal. It will heal fast."- Carlos Quentin on NBC 5 News Chicago (9/5/08)

by tailgater on Sep 21, 2008 11:25 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't know if it's so much the Sox...

as it is the Twins who are probably the Sox’ equal or thereabouts (I’m talking about a Q-less Sox team, mind you). I also don’t know how much significance should be placed in home/road splits (especially when applying it to one series), but the Twins have been much better at home and the Sox have been much worse at home. And then there’s that whole Sox’ record on turf this year. That’s not to say that all of these are relevant and/or should hold statistical significance… it’s just (personally speaking) where that ‘uneasiness’ comes from.

I am pretty confident, though, in who the Sox are sending to the hill versus Minny’s group. I’m glad that we get to see Blackburn as he appears to be tiring quite a bit (17 runs allowed in his last four starts covering just 19 IP). Slowey and Baker should be tough, but again, I’m confident in the Vazquez-Buehrle-Floyd trio with all three back on normal rest. If I were a betting man I’d bet on Minny taking two of three, but a lot would have to go wrong for Minny to take all three.

by CWSKeith on Sep 22, 2008 12:31 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

At the beginning of the season,

who woulda thunk that Floyd’s name would be part of a “I’m confident in the …….. trio” in perhaps the deciding series of a pennant race?

Everyone get down on their knees tonight.........

and say a little (or maybe a medium sized) prayer for the Sox bullpen. Call in some chits.

by ballyb on Sep 22, 2008 7:58 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Kenny Williams

Sure proved me wrong though. That getting lucky for a month or two really changed his game. For a head case with good stuff that’s all it takes to build up his confidence I guess.

by Grinder in Training on Sep 22, 2008 8:26 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

typo: sox have been much worse at home

twins have a 49-26 record and sox have a 51-26 record, typo probably…

by onlysoxfaninboston on Sep 22, 2008 8:30 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Adjustable HVAC.

Everyone get down on their knees tonight.........

and say a little (or maybe a medium sized) prayer for the Sox bullpen. Call in some chits.

by ballyb on Sep 22, 2008 7:49 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wise...

Had some great baserunning in the first. His hustle and smarts turned into a run. How else do you tag up and score on a popup into shallow left field?

"Why don't you go back to your home on whore mountain?"

by thekever on Sep 22, 2008 8:30 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it was very good baserunning

but he never would have gotten to third if not for dejesus in left. and then he wouldn’t have scored from third if not for dejesus in left. on dye’s single dejesus didn’t go after the ball aggressively, allowing wise to take advantage. if thome’s popup to short left is caught by the left fielder even usain bolt wouldn’t score from third, but dejesus just stood there and made the SS and 3B decide who would catch it. (if the third baseman catches it i’m not sure if wise scores as he didn’t seem to have nearly as much momentum towards the outfield)

i think if joe maddon was managing that team he would have pulled dejesus.

brian anderson would've caught that...

by BuehrleMan on Sep 22, 2008 8:57 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Agree to all of that...

…nevertheless, it was all great baserunning. The kind of which we have not seen in quite a while.

"Why don't you go back to your home on whore mountain?"

by thekever on Sep 22, 2008 2:57 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Is there ANY CHANCE, HOWEVER SLIGHT

that Griffey returns next year?

Everyone get down on their knees tonight.........

and say a little (or maybe a medium sized) prayer for the Sox bullpen. Call in some chits.

by ballyb on Sep 22, 2008 7:46 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

no

"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."

by U-God on Sep 22, 2008 7:52 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

"I hope not"

That’s what worries me.

Everyone get down on their knees tonight.........

and say a little (or maybe a medium sized) prayer for the Sox bullpen. Call in some chits.

by ballyb on Sep 22, 2008 7:59 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

On that inside the park,

Griffey was never in the picture, NEVER.

Dye falls down, ball caroms back to RF, Dye recovers and throws home.

When Dye threw the ball, the camera shot showed 20 – 30 yards to his right, towards center. Griffey wasn’t even in the picture. Where the fuck was he? Not like it was a slow developing play.

Is there ANY DEFENSE (cept being slow, 50 lbs. overweight, etc.)?

Everyone get down on their knees tonight.........

and say a little (or maybe a medium sized) prayer for the Sox bullpen. Call in some chits.

by ballyb on Sep 22, 2008 8:16 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No.

He can’t jog over to the general vicinity of the play?

Everyone get down on their knees tonight.........

and say a little (or maybe a medium sized) prayer for the Sox bullpen. Call in some chits.

by ballyb on Sep 22, 2008 9:39 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

any chance whatsoever that Griff starts in CF in the Terrordome?

I can see that being very very ugly.

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Sep 22, 2008 8:31 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i'd have a hard time envisioning that

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Sep 22, 2008 9:58 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

but he might be the next Sandy Alomar/Carl Everett maybe?

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Sep 22, 2008 9:59 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sox are 6-6 in the Dome since Ozzie took over

after Aug. 31st. This includes being swept there in ‘04. While everyone has the right to feel uneasy about this upcoming series, this isn’t like the Sox heading to the Coliseum in a must win set. I believe much of the angst is still left over residue from the Manuel era.

by El Duque's Raft on Sep 22, 2008 8:29 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's basically a "don't get swept" series...

Two wins is preferable but one win is a must.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Sep 22, 2008 9:08 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

good title

how well will the Sox do in the Don’t Get Swept series? find out next!

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Sep 22, 2008 10:00 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Pitching matchups?

Who are the starting pitchers for the series against the Twins? Is Liriano expected to start in the third game?

"Why don't you go back to your home on whore mountain?"

by thekever on Sep 22, 2008 8:32 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think the biggest thing taken for granted is after this series

It is highly doubtful that Minn sweeps KC. I don’t know if it really matters about full rest for Minn starters. They have definitely hit the wall and are just plain tired.

The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.

by Tdogg on Sep 22, 2008 10:17 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This series ought to be a gut-churner, anyway.

If we at least play them tough, and take one game, it just might wear them out. Their bullpen is on fumes even more than the starters.

"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Sep 22, 2008 10:33 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i don't want to eff with our pen either though

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Sep 22, 2008 10:36 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

my stomach is already in a knot!

hheeeeeeheeeeeeeeeee….tomorrow night seems so far away!!!!! i cannnn’t waaiiiiiiittt!

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Sep 22, 2008 12:12 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

burn, bitches, burrrrrrnnnn!!!!!

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Sep 22, 2008 12:23 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

fireworks and balloons! yay!

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Sep 22, 2008 12:25 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

for those you who were interested in the pedro alvarez thing.

call it a draw. he signs majo league deal.

Depending on one’s perspective, this can be seen as a victory for either side: The Pirates might maintain that, because Alvarez’s bonus is spread over twice as many years as the original, the actual guaranteed value of the deal, when weighing interest and inflation, actually is $5.67 million in total. The Alvarez side might maintain that the major league contract will bring Alvarez more money sooner, perhaps $900,000 more than in the original.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08266/914155-63.stm

fight like a cat: paws up. - ozzie

by larry on Sep 22, 2008 10:43 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Boras wins. Pedro gets the highest bonus in the draft, one of only two or three ML deals, more cash guaranteed than in first deal, and higher upside than first deal.

by VictorB on Sep 22, 2008 11:13 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

not the highest bonus.

fight like a cat: paws up. - ozzie

by larry on Sep 22, 2008 11:16 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It is more guaranteed.

You are getting caught up in the NPV calcualation, which is valid, but could be dwarfed by the newly created upside ($8.0MM).

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/unfiltered/?p=1026

by VictorB on Sep 22, 2008 1:05 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i got what you meant after i posted.

of course i’m getting caught up in that. it’s cute that he gets “more” money. i’d be caring, though, what the actual value of that money to me is. maybe pedro doesn’t care and boras probably doesn’t.

fight like a cat: paws up. - ozzie

by larry on Sep 22, 2008 1:13 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Looks like a Mexican standoff to me.

"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Sep 22, 2008 11:35 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   1 recs

boras gets to tell future clients he got a major league deal for another player. that's about the only salient difference.

looking at the deal from an economic reality persepctive, while having more bells and whistles, this is basically the same deal as before.

fight like a cat: paws up. - ozzie

by larry on Sep 22, 2008 11:51 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Si, senor.

"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Sep 22, 2008 11:52 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i hope it was worth it for boras.

because if i were any other agent competing with boras, i’d be sure to be grabbing every article on this topic that states “boras is only/real winner in alvarez fiasco” and keeping that in my file. like you said, everyone sort of looks like an equal loser in this one.

fight like a cat: paws up. - ozzie

by larry on Sep 22, 2008 11:56 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He's not had a great year - I wonder if he overreached a bit here

to get a “W” in the Boras column.

"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Sep 22, 2008 12:00 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

certainly looks that way.

as i said when this all started, i wasn’t really sure who would benefit from this whole fiasco. as it turns out, no one has – at least no one of the immediate parties. this sure has all the hallmarks of a “whoops, same deal as before but let’s just change some terms to make it seem like it’s different” and permitting all parties to save as much face as possible.

fight like a cat: paws up. - ozzie

by larry on Sep 22, 2008 12:04 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And it certainly was not the precedent-setting

event I believe some called it to be – no “Boras Loopehole/Exception” ever anon.

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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Sep 22, 2008 12:06 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

nope. i'm guessing the grievance will be dropped.

i’m sure the deadline will be viewed more strictly by teams and agents now but, again, i’m not sure that really changes the game all that much for anyone.

fight like a cat: paws up. - ozzie

by larry on Sep 22, 2008 12:10 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

wrecked

ROFL!

That comment is an excellent non sequitur from the previous two or three comments. Fucking brilliant.

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Sep 22, 2008 11:51 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

isn't this contract after the august 15 deadline?

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Sep 22, 2008 8:40 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

BTW, didn't Danks have help in blanking said Royals?

Perhaps “Danks and bullpen skanks blank Royals”?

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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Sep 22, 2008 11:51 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Sep 22, 2008 11:52 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Danks and Bullpen Ranks Shank Royal Skanks?

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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Sep 22, 2008 12:00 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Too jewish

(blazing saddles reference, for those not in the know)

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Sep 22, 2008 12:02 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You can never be too Jewish.

You bigot.

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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Sep 22, 2008 12:05 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thanks for noticing

OPOS

/channeling Rabbi Hyman Krustofski

But you can suggest something too Jewish for the occasion, can you not?
Would not a menorah be out of place at a Catholic wedding? Oy, veh!

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Sep 22, 2008 12:12 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Agree on SSH's point that this is a "Don't get swept series"

"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"

by Ozzie Montana on Sep 22, 2008 1:01 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

While the track record against the Twins in September isn’t too bad, I’m scared to death about Griffey playing CF in that shit dome.

"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"

by Ozzie Montana on Sep 22, 2008 1:02 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Say it with me:

GIMME A B! GIMME AN A! WHAT’S THAT SPELL?

VICTORY!!! VICTORY!!!

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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Sep 22, 2008 1:03 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We should outscrap those Twinnies

Wise and BA in the lineup all 3 days

"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"

by Ozzie Montana on Sep 22, 2008 1:04 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

As Rocky said to Adrian: "Absolutely."

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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Sep 22, 2008 1:05 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

laughable.

(beats head on desk)

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Sep 22, 2008 1:10 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

OT - Eddie Vedder Has Jumped the Shark

CHICAGO (AP) — A note from Eddie Vedder: The Cubs are still alive.

The Pearl Jam front man has released a song for the Chicago baseball team at the request of Cubs great Ernie Banks. It’s called “All the Way.”

Vedder made the song available on Pearl Jam’s Web site this week. It’s been buzzing on radios in Chicago and in bars near Wrigley Field.

HSA, time to burn “Ten”.

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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Sep 22, 2008 1:01 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Journey is so much better when comparing bands I have no use for making theme songs for Chicago baseball

I’m hoping for a Kanye West/Common/Lupe Fiasco joint coming if the Sox clinch, perhaps an Obama speech?

"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"

by Ozzie Montana on Sep 22, 2008 1:03 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That would sure beat the crap out of anything Vetter could put together

has anyone heard “all the way”. Does it suck as bad as I assume it does?

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Sep 22, 2008 1:06 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

PS Is the buzzing from radios around Wrigley

or from the flies on that piece of crap?

I mean, pick Sinatra if you want “All the Way”. Fer Chrissakes.

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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Sep 22, 2008 1:09 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good question, WU

Shit flies can be quite noisy, as evidenced by the crowds at Wrigley. ;)

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Sep 22, 2008 1:58 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I heard some of it on tv.

It’s accoustic and dramatic (cheesy) sounding. I’m sure he compares the players to soldiers at war at some point in the song or something equally stupid. His is the voice I hate most in rock history. It grates on my nerves like you wouldn’t believe.

The Twins are not good, please stop posting their score.

by defensive indifference on Sep 22, 2008 1:35 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

acoustic guitar. enough said.

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Sep 22, 2008 1:57 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I would love a Kanye/Lupe/R.Kelly joint

I know in the “This is why i’m cold” remix R.Kelly has a line “South Side baby Kells rooting for THE SOX”

I know R. Kelly is an actual Sox fan, not sure about the other 2. The Game I am pretty sure is a Sox fan too as he has mentions in one of his songs.

by JoeCoolMan24 on Sep 22, 2008 2:57 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

"loose trixies"

brought to you by the department of redundancy department

I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.

by thatshortkid on Sep 22, 2008 1:32 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm a graduated frat boy

Frat boys hang out in Bridgeport too. Being in a fraternity does not have anything to do with how you act in public.

www.stallingtheman.blogspot.com

by Raf on Sep 22, 2008 2:42 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

sorry for touching a nerve, chad.

the difference between a twins homer and a communist is that the communist knows what he's doing.

by larry on Sep 22, 2008 2:43 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

LOL.

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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Sep 22, 2008 2:45 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it totally doesn't brah

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Sep 22, 2008 3:54 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This is disgusting. I want no part.

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Sep 22, 2008 1:12 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it was time to burn Ten

in 1991.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Sep 22, 2008 2:01 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Potential theme songs for the 2008 Chicago White Sox playoff push

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPtwFMOo-9M Bone Thugs N Harmony ft. Tupac-Thug Love

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ic7KH1PpbMY Dr. Dre ft. Snoop Dogg-Bitches Ain’t Shit

"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"

by Ozzie Montana on Sep 22, 2008 1:17 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   1 recs

Shit almost forgot

A.R. Rahman-Chaaiya Chaaiya from the movie Dil Se!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_2gW3zwMMQ

"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"

by Ozzie Montana on Sep 22, 2008 1:19 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Sep 22, 2008 1:22 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

am I the only one bothered by

the Score using a Hold Steady song as bumper music during Sox broadcasts? Nothing against their music, but they are huge Twins fans. Karma ‘n’ all that.

vanillablue.wordpress.com

by vanillablue on Sep 22, 2008 1:36 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

shit.

this new fact causes me to revise my views. twins win the division by ten games.

fight like a cat: paws up. - ozzie

by larry on Sep 22, 2008 1:38 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

why are you revising your views as to something that happened in may?

"i would like to take this opportunity to formally apologize for the events of the night of the twenty-third. i am not accustomed to drinking alcohol."

by Toonderstrook on Sep 22, 2008 1:39 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i'm not revising.

see? that’s where the joke is.

fight like a cat: paws up. - ozzie

by larry on Sep 22, 2008 1:42 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hold on Loosely

That’s my suggestion for the final week

by Christopher Michaels on Sep 22, 2008 1:41 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

twins homers should stop running white sox blogs.

go back to TI.

fight like a cat: paws up. - ozzie

by larry on Sep 22, 2008 1:43 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Another commie uncovered by larry!

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Sep 22, 2008 2:00 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

there is at work in the U.S. an active, aggressive, malignant thing—conspiratorial communism, coupled with rabid twinism—which must be rooted out. it is fairly easy to recognize it in men like christopher michaels.

fight like a cat: paws up. - ozzie

by larry on Sep 22, 2008 2:06 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

But don't let go.

.38 Special! I bet they’re not too busy to come to a rally.

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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Sep 22, 2008 2:06 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

for all those who thinks it's "very easy" or "very realistic" that the sox lose the division.
Here’s how the reality of the situation plays out…

Twins Get Swept, 0 games to 3: White Sox increase division lead to 5.5 games. Season over. Like a Band-Aid, clean off. Painless it would be not…but done it would be.

Twins Lose Series, 1 game to 2: Season over. Those results move the Twins from a 2.5 game gap to a 3.5 game gap, and with just three games left on the schedule the math just doesn’t work out. That’s elimination.

Twins Win Series, 2 games to 1: Cutting into the gap by a game, the Twins would still have to pick up two games on the White Sox. This means Minnesota would need to sweep the Royals in the final three games of the season, while the White Sox, at a minimum, drop two of three to Cleveland. In this scenario the Twins would have to go 5-1 to finish the season, while the Sox go no better than 2-4, in order to win the Central crown for the 5th time in seven years.

Twins Sweep Series, 3 games to 0: This is the best possible outcome, because in reality it’s the only outcome in which the Twins would still have a good chance of winning the division. To retain that slim 0.5 game lead, they’d need to win at least as many games as Chicago over the last three. If the Sox win one, the Twins would have to win one; you get the idea. In this case, the best the White Sox could do and still NOT win the division would be 2-4…which of course means the Twins would have to go 5-1.

As it stands, the Twins have roughly a 13% chance of making the playoffs, which is technically a generous estimate since I’m rounding up. This is a dire situation, and I have no delusions about this being a severe and obstacle-ridden climb, but even with just six games left on the schedule the Minnesota Twins are still in the hunt for October.

And I can’t give up yet.

http://www.twinkietown.com/2008/9/21/618890/playoffs-the-twins

the difference between a twins homer and a communist is that the communist knows what he's doing.

by larry on Sep 22, 2008 3:14 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It’s time to put up or shut up but the Twins should feel good about where they are going to have this rumble. I hope this team shows up, I hope their show fight, as in bleeding knuckles and not a clean uni in the dugout fight. (not getting into a real fight though, you guys know what I mean don’t ya?)

If Torii was on this team you know this is the kind of series he’d be pumped for. He’d be getting into everyone’s faces to get up for this, hell maybe even take another swing at Morneau. Gawd I hate to say this but I don’t know who is going to do that on this team. Who is going to smash a chair in the tunnel and come out and hit a game winning home run. Who is going to fire this club up? Will this team show that they believe this division is theirs? Will they force Chicago to play the best 3 games of their season? Man, I want to believe in this team.

the difference between a twins homer and a communist is that the communist knows what he's doing.

by larry on Sep 22, 2008 3:22 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Can we add Peanut Tillman

to the roster for 4 days?

Everyone get down on their knees tonight.........

and say a little (or maybe a medium sized) prayer for the Sox bullpen. Call in some chits.

by ballyb on Sep 22, 2008 6:50 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The 2nd one is not even correct

If the Sox finish with a .5 game lead, the Sox have to play the last game vs. Detroit to see if the Sox win the divison, or go into a tie with the Twins.

And the last one dosen’t make sense either because if the Twins sweep us, they still have to win 1 more game than we do in the last 3 games or else, again, the Sox have to play the game vs. Detroit.

by JoeCoolMan24 on Sep 22, 2008 8:42 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Exactly...

You beat me to it.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Sep 22, 2008 10:02 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hence the post:

"twins fans are apparently just as incapable as sox fans. "

the difference between a twins homer and a communist is that the communist knows what he's doing.

by larry on Sep 23, 2008 10:21 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

anybody heard the new tv on the radio record?

"i would like to take this opportunity to formally apologize for the events of the night of the twenty-third. i am not accustomed to drinking alcohol."

by Toonderstrook on Sep 22, 2008 3:48 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i dled it

but i haven’t given it a spin yet. thoughts?

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Sep 22, 2008 3:56 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

dress it in skinny jeans and some aviators

and i’m guessing that number will go as high as you want.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Sep 22, 2008 4:02 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

alternative answer:

isn’t that a sufjan stevens outro?

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Sep 22, 2008 4:05 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

haven't gotten it yet. was thinking about running over to amoeba shortly to grab it.

"i would like to take this opportunity to formally apologize for the events of the night of the twenty-third. i am not accustomed to drinking alcohol."

by Toonderstrook on Sep 22, 2008 3:57 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

never mind on that. guess only available by dl until tomorrow.

"i would like to take this opportunity to formally apologize for the events of the night of the twenty-third. i am not accustomed to drinking alcohol."

by Toonderstrook on Sep 22, 2008 3:59 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

tuesdays = release days

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Sep 22, 2008 4:01 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i know that. but there was some confusion about the release date and usually you can't dl it on itunes until official release date, either, no?

"i would like to take this opportunity to formally apologize for the events of the night of the twenty-third. i am not accustomed to drinking alcohol."

by Toonderstrook on Sep 22, 2008 4:03 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you can dl it on itunes already?

that’s bizarre…i think?

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Sep 22, 2008 4:04 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

on itunes it shows release date sept. 16; on amazon you still have to pre-order and on amoeba's site it shows a sept. 23 release.

"i would like to take this opportunity to formally apologize for the events of the night of the twenty-third. i am not accustomed to drinking alcohol."

by Toonderstrook on Sep 22, 2008 4:07 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

so it is. weird.

i think i might listen to the album now.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Sep 22, 2008 4:14 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

let us know what you think later.

"i would like to take this opportunity to formally apologize for the events of the night of the twenty-third. i am not accustomed to drinking alcohol."

by Toonderstrook on Sep 22, 2008 4:27 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i haven't yet.

i saw them in west virginia, they rocked!! they’re touring with the dirtbombs (who also rock), pretty sure they’re hitting boston..

by onlysoxfaninboston on Sep 22, 2008 3:56 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sox World Series "worth" $72 million to Chicago economy

Cubs-Sox World Series would be worth $154 million

link

A World Series featuring the Chicago Cubs could generate almost $100 million for Chicago’s economy, while the Chicago White Sox making the Fall Classic would pull in an estimated $72 million, according to a study by a local turnaround consultant.

Should the teams play each other in the series, the impact could reach $154 million, says Tim Mahon of Chicago-based MDS Group LLC, which advises underperforming corporate clients.

The projections are based on each team playing the maximum number of home games in the World Series and in two qualifying series.

I always love these “economic impact” estimates of big sporting events and such, but I take them with a huge grain of salt, since I don’t see how these could be very accurate.

White Sox, that’s baseball.

by vince_ on Sep 22, 2008 3:57 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i can't imagine it's that hard to come up with a ballpark estimate

there’ve been plenty of world series played now, i’m sure they’ve got a handle on how that impacts tourism and the like.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Sep 22, 2008 4:03 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

As one in the travel and tourism biz

$1 spent in tourism ultimately equals $4 in the local economy.

The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.

by Tdogg on Sep 22, 2008 4:10 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

$61 million of the $72 million

would be from additional parking tickets, towed cars and Denver Boot revenue.

Everyone get down on their knees tonight.........

and say a little (or maybe a medium sized) prayer for the Sox bullpen. Call in some chits.

by ballyb on Sep 22, 2008 6:53 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Is it Tuesday yet????????

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Sep 22, 2008 4:18 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

not in seattle.

"i would like to take this opportunity to formally apologize for the events of the night of the twenty-third. i am not accustomed to drinking alcohol."

by Toonderstrook on Sep 22, 2008 4:20 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

depends on how you interact in and with space-time.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Sep 22, 2008 4:20 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The new TVotR

I’m three songs in on a first listen. So far it’s been a lot more accessible, which is not to say the masses of layers have been cut down. The main riffs and melodies seem a lot…simpler? More upfront? Also, so far there’s been a pretty noticeable funk influence…but far from overbearing.

So far there hasn’t been a song that’s made me go “whoa,” which happened for me on song 1 and kept going on Cookie Mountain.

But, again…only 3 songs in.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Sep 22, 2008 4:31 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Here's a song to make you go whoa:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzFrLZaS5Ds&feature=related
It’s my boy’s track and was featured on the most recent episode of Entourage.
Unrelated, I know, but couldn’t help the shameless plug.

by Crede's Crew on Sep 22, 2008 4:37 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Song 4 was pretty great.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Sep 22, 2008 4:37 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

pitchfork evidently gave it a 9.2

fwiw…which may well be nothing. i dn, so far i’m a little bored by it with 3 songs left on the album.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Sep 22, 2008 4:52 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

what say you about the fleet foxes?

"i would like to take this opportunity to formally apologize for the events of the night of the twenty-third. i am not accustomed to drinking alcohol."

by Toonderstrook on Sep 22, 2008 4:54 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i dn they're alright

they kinda strike me as being a blend of assorted indie trends. that jim james-esque vocal turn, the layers and folk/americana reference points and all that. but…it does sound pretty good. when i do actually get around to listening to it.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Sep 22, 2008 5:00 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

EP better than LP, imo.

Though LP shows a growth in the right direction….

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Sep 22, 2008 5:39 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Pitchfork sucks.

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Sep 22, 2008 5:38 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i guess?

i dn, i think they serve a function and the writing has gotten better this year. i don’t read it enough to really care. they’re highly canon-oriented, which makes for snootiness, but the music fest they run in chicago has been really fun every time ive gone.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Sep 22, 2008 5:40 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I stopped reading a few years ago, so I guess I may be missing something over there now.

But I always hated how their writers wrote, and thought they were the authority on all.

I can see how you’d enjoy the music festival they put together – there is usually some good stuff on there….I know you’re into that indie shit.

:)

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Sep 22, 2008 6:14 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah I'm a big indiefuck...but I've been giving less and less a shit about stuff coming out now

Also: you’re exactly right about their writing a few years ago. Brent DiCrenwhatever et al. were turds.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Sep 22, 2008 10:49 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

canon oriented?

Not sure about that. They are pretentious. Fine. I guess I might differ with the “cannon” def. I remember when I first started looking at them in 2004 and reading about how they gave fucking Madvillainy like 9.5 and how that Album was the shit. That album is about as far as you can from any sort of hip-hop cannon.

They also are made up of privileged ass white kids with connections writing really shitty hip hop reviews for those same people in college. But We were all there once. I’m really not sure how Madvillain pulled such a high review.

I still remember when they gave Radiohead 10.0 and I pretty much gave up on them. Not solely because of that, but after awhile your circle of friends and your circle of Internet sources (mp3 blogs, torrents, etc) sort of supercedes any real need for Pitchfork.

And then we had Oink, which made reading Pitchfork seem like winning a blue ribbon at the Iowa county fair — quaint, funny, something sneered at.

And then we lost Oink! just as it came emerged.

But whatevs. I get most of my music from a) friends, b) mp3 blogs (3hive, captain’s crate, g vs b, said the gramaphone, etc) and shit I hear randomly in NYC.

Pichtfork is what it is I guess. It’s at the same stage Rolling Stone was at one point.

I’m continuing my Jay D fixation lately, also pulling out some old Magnetic Fields albums.

I think that most people here would appreciate some Magnetic Fields. It’s kinda like a Gen X and Y version of the Smiths and Morrisey — with everything — from the self-consciousness self consciousness to the style (from electronic to prog rock) that comes with it.

And my drunk ass is OVAH!

by madvillian on Sep 22, 2008 9:43 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I love the Mag Fields

I played “California Girls” when I went out to visit UCLA and my brother just to be stupid.

And they see themselves as canon establishers. Hence the profusion of lists. Best of 60’s, 70’s, 80’s, 90’s, etc. etc. etc. That’s why the author of the review is hidden at the bottom. It’s a collective ordering of all music they deign to review.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Sep 22, 2008 10:57 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Still just a first listen, but overall the stuff that's new sounding is not especially compelling.

There were a number of instances of seriously cliché strings being draped over the songs and not to especially interesting effect. They didn’t seem to have…I guess I would say…a point? or direction? as my ears heard it.

I’m way more into these last 3 songs; they sound like they could have come from the same sessions as Cookie Mountain and have the direction and atmosphere that the songs before seemed to be lacking.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Sep 22, 2008 5:06 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

much thanks.

"i would like to take this opportunity to formally apologize for the events of the night of the twenty-third. i am not accustomed to drinking alcohol."

by Toonderstrook on Sep 22, 2008 5:07 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

who?

....fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts

by hoodlight on Sep 22, 2008 5:43 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

tv on the radio. hey, hoodie, what have you been listening to lately that we might be able to get our grubby hands on?

"i would like to take this opportunity to formally apologize for the events of the night of the twenty-third. i am not accustomed to drinking alcohol."

by Toonderstrook on Sep 22, 2008 5:45 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i really have no idea what to guess HL's music tastes are like

i just know that he’s been extremely disparaging toward anything we’ve mentioned that he knows.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Sep 22, 2008 5:48 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

never heard of them

I’ll look them up though, I’m listening to a lot of On-u sound stuff at the moment, I love that London reggae stuff. and Ladytron too, they are the dogs bollocks. I don’t like boring guitar music, like Pearl Jam ‘above’ man I hate that kind of shit.

....fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts

by hoodlight on Sep 22, 2008 5:49 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I like American Music Club

you heard of them, like a Californian Country rock band, I love their stuff

....fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts

by hoodlight on Sep 22, 2008 5:51 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

not like sorry

they are a Californian Country rock band

....fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts

by hoodlight on Sep 22, 2008 5:52 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

mark eitzel fan...interesting.

"i would like to take this opportunity to formally apologize for the events of the night of the twenty-third. i am not accustomed to drinking alcohol."

by Toonderstrook on Sep 22, 2008 5:53 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

why interesting?

....fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts

by hoodlight on Sep 22, 2008 5:56 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

because i said so, hoodie. now get me a pint of timothy taylor!

"i would like to take this opportunity to formally apologize for the events of the night of the twenty-third. i am not accustomed to drinking alcohol."

by Toonderstrook on Sep 22, 2008 5:59 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I had the day off today and went for a walk

at Otley Chevin, I had a couple of pints in the Junction, and it was like nectar. It’s bottled now, so we can maybe get some Taylors to middle America.

regrads ‘sic’

....fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts

by hoodlight on Sep 22, 2008 6:16 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

this is nice pic

of the place

....fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts

by hoodlight on Sep 22, 2008 6:18 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

very nice.

"i would like to take this opportunity to formally apologize for the events of the night of the twenty-third. i am not accustomed to drinking alcohol."

by Toonderstrook on Sep 22, 2008 6:22 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Boring. All I see are rocks.

unless those are crack rocks…in that case, I need to get myself to England ASAP!

Clearly.

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Sep 22, 2008 7:43 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Very gestalt-like.

Everything looks like crack to you. Must be jonesing bad.

What is it about you Gay-area guys and your obsessions?

"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Sep 22, 2008 7:46 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

and everything looks like gestalt psychology to you, Mr. WU

What’s your excuse? Hmmm….OPOS?

;)

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Sep 22, 2008 8:35 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

/looks around to make sure no one noticed that he just tried to change the subject.

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Sep 22, 2008 8:36 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

brooklyn based former indie now major label band TV on the Radio

critical darlings and well liked by those who are aware they exist. got some radio play for “wolf like me” the single from their album before this new one called Return to Cookie Mountain.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Sep 22, 2008 5:46 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

For reference:

Wolf Like Me

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Sep 22, 2008 5:50 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

sounds like the Cure from about 20 years ago

with a worse singer and that’s saying something

....fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts

by hoodlight on Sep 22, 2008 5:55 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

...i don't hear that at all, but ok?

in any case, you can say you heard the single.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Sep 22, 2008 6:02 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yes, i heard it

surely there must be something a bit more modern or experimental to listen to? It’s not exactly cutting edge is it? it sounds like a thousand bands that have gone before

....fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts

by hoodlight on Sep 22, 2008 6:06 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it's a single.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Sep 22, 2008 10:58 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I have an ftp server at home

with lots of good music on, mail me at my name at my name @googlemail.com and I’ll send you the address if you want to grab some stuff

regards

....fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts

by hoodlight on Sep 22, 2008 6:00 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

the difference between a twins homer and a communist is that the communist knows what he's doing.

by larry on Sep 22, 2008 6:32 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

lol, I like that

....fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts

by hoodlight on Sep 22, 2008 6:35 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

the difference between a twins homer and a communist is that the communist knows what he's doing.

by larry on Sep 22, 2008 6:42 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

OK....

Twins to get Davies, Duckworth and Meche…..

I’d love for KC to skip Duckworth and make it Davies, Meche, Greinke….ain’t gonna hapeen though.

by stanchar on Sep 22, 2008 6:27 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

anyone else notice tony kornheiser's comb-over?

"term: pussy, user: larry, count: 11

term: pussy, user: all, count: 83" - wiz

by Where Triples Go to Die on Sep 22, 2008 7:38 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Anyone watching WGN tonight?

Sox/Cubs “All Access”. Not bad. Checking out the wives right now. Gavin’s babe – gggggggggggrrrrrrrrrrrr.

How is Getz getting so much air time? WTF?

"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Sep 22, 2008 7:40 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Floyd has a nice bird?

I bet he pulled her after he got his head shaved

....fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts

by hoodlight on Sep 22, 2008 7:41 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Kittle and Pudge! Good times.

"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Sep 22, 2008 7:41 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Isn't Pudge on the payroll as a Sox "Ambassador"?

How does he earn that dough, exactly?

TV is kind of dull tonight, but the Mrs. does have Dancing with the Stars on and I did catch Brooke Burke’s performace…yowza! She’s got legs for days.

All you groovy kids posting tonight have to list some more bands/tunes for us geezers to check out. I know he’s ancient news, but the new Matthew Sweet album is pretty good.

Anyone who presents some good selections is welcome to drop by my place and check out my new Doors 8-track cassette.

"There will be surgery. It will heal. It will heal fast."- Carlos Quentin on NBC 5 News Chicago (9/5/08)

by tailgater on Sep 22, 2008 9:01 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

your earlier white castle ruse failed to net any victims, huh?

"i would like to take this opportunity to formally apologize for the events of the night of the twenty-third. i am not accustomed to drinking alcohol."

by Toonderstrook on Sep 22, 2008 9:03 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

harold

from ozzie’s sporting news interview:

SN: You drive in with Harold Baines, your former White Sox teammate and now one of your coaches, to games sometimes. What’s the most that quiet man ever talked on a car ride?

GUILLEN: We went one day from Milwaukee to Chicago • he only said three things: “What’s up?” “I need a Diet Coke.” And, “What time you pick me up tomorrow?”

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Sep 22, 2008 9:10 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ps. does cowley know of the big jim-orca altercation?

he can write more like this

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Sep 22, 2008 9:59 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ozzie said "JD" reporter assumed he said "JT" and thouht he meant Thome

/and with that I’m headed back to sleep. I’m sick. Fell asleep at 8 PM tonight, woke up 5 minutes ago, and I’m headed right back to bed.

by Christopher Michaels on Sep 22, 2008 10:50 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

back in the day

veeck had me hangin’ w/ harold when he first came up…to show him the town, etc. i always tyook along thad bosley otherwise’d i’d set myself on fire from boredom.

by RoyEgan on Sep 22, 2008 10:59 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So how many times does Ozzie IBB Punto in this series...

and let Mauer and Morneau beat him?

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Sep 22, 2008 10:53 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

73.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Sep 22, 2008 10:59 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

As long as Carlos Gomez doesn't continue to kill the Sox...

when he sucks against everyone else.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Sep 22, 2008 11:15 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Whomever theses pussies are, please get them off the team, Kenny...

Link:

’’It’s just another place,‘’ Pierzynski said. ’’We can’t worry about that. We have to go in and play our game, do what we do well.

‘’Some guys get caught up in, ’Oh, my God, it’s the Metrodome,’ instead of going in there with the mind-set of, ’We’re going to go in there and kick their ass.’ That’s the mind-set it takes, and if we do that and it works out, great; if not, we move on. But we have to go in there looking to play confident and not scared.’’

Pierzynski didn’t go into specifics on which of his teammates have had shaky knees entering the Metrodome in the past, but he didn’t need to at this point. That might be conversation for another day.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Sep 22, 2008 11:18 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

1st inning, Wise gets on, steals 2nd

and then scores on a Konerko single when he obliterates Mauer (no injury), knocking the ball loose.

Benches clear.

Everyone get down on their knees tonight.........

and say a little (or maybe a medium sized) prayer for the Sox bullpen. Call in some chits.

by ballyb on Sep 23, 2008 7:25 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Don't like injuries.

Everyone get down on their knees tonight.........

and say a little (or maybe a medium sized) prayer for the Sox bullpen. Call in some chits.

by ballyb on Sep 23, 2008 9:50 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

:)

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Sep 23, 2008 9:57 AM CDT