White Sox Take Extra Day Off Before Key Twins Series
I don't want to sound too hyperbolic, because a win in tomorrow's game with the Twins puts the White Sox right back at square one, 2.5 games up with 4+ games left to play, but the Sox looked like a team that had already begun to play out the string Tuesday night; like they had conceded the fact that they can't play in domes (4-14 in '08), let alone the Metrodome in September with the season on the line.
Ozzie Guillen issued a challenge to Javier Vazquez this week with some less than flattering comments. Vazquez responded by saying he didn't care, the controversy 'overblown,' then let it slip that he was teething "had an ear infection," or some other infantile malady. Vazquez had the opportunity to prove his detractors wrong; to reinvent himself as an ace, if only for a short time, as Jose Contreras did in late '05. But with the ear infection talk, it was almost as if he was looking for an out, an excuse for his poor performance, even before he threw a pitch.
Vazquez was staked* to early lead thanks to what appeared to be some inspired play by the white, immobile veterans. Jim Thome led off the second inning with a opposite field single to beat the shift, and advanced to third when he got a great read on Paul Konerko's bloop single (Yes, you read that right.). That was the extent of the Sox offensive highlights for the night, however, as Ken Griffey Jr. erased the threat, and gave the Sox the lead, with a routine double play ball.
Vazquez greeted the lead by throwing 6 straight balls to put the go-ahead run at the plate with a hitter's count. Seconds later, Hawk broke into "and we've got ourselves a 2-1 game" about halfway through Jason Kubel's swing on an absolute no-duobter of a homerun on a hanging changeup from Vazquez. In the span of 8 minutes, the Sox had gone from runners on the corners nobody out, to down by 1, and going through the motions.
Kubel led off the bottom of the 4th with a triple beyond the reach of a diving Griffey (read: an out for Brian Anderson), and quickly scored a bloop double that fell in front of Jermaine Dye (poor range again allowing the ball to find safety). What Griffey and Dye lack in range, they've clearly made up for at the plate, especially since Quentin's departure. (.257/.325/.343 6 extra-base hits, 0 HR for Dye; .244/.311/.341 4 XBH, 0 HR for Griffey)
The entire inning was a microcosm of the difference between the two clubs. Minnesota's first two runs of the inning came courtesy of the Sox' poor defense combined with some timely hitting, while their final run crossed home thanks to a stolen base and a suicide squeeze. The Sox showed a faint heartbeat in the top of the fifth, when the first two batters reached on a hit and a walk. The runners would stay right there for two outs, however, and when Orlando Cabrera came up with a clutch hit with a Runner In Scoring Position, the Sox only such hit on the night, Junior was unable to score.
That just about says it all right there. The Sox get a rare hit w/ RISP, nobody scores; and their offensive highlight is a second inning GIDP that plates a run. I suppose you could count Griffey's 9th inning HR as a highlight if 9th-inning-down-by-8-run-homers are your type of thing, but I can't count any play that makes his presence in tomorrow's lineup more likely as a highlight. The Sox finished the game win 1 extra base hit (Griffey's 26th out HR), and only put a runner in scoring position, a laughable term with this team, in the 2nd and 5th innings.
If there was a You-Just-Have-To-Laugh moment in Tuesday night's mess, it had to be the last inning. First it was Horacio Ramirez proving he is good for something; he's good for a perfect inning of work anytime the game has a margin of 8 runs. Seriously, he has two perfect outings in his White Sox career, one in the 9th while up by 8 runs, and Tuesday in the 8th with the Sox trailing by 8. You can't make that shit up. Then it was Griffey, who hasn't homered in over a month, putting one deep over the baggy, all but ensuring he'll see more time in center this series.
Back when I was wondering what the heck the Griffey deal was all about, I never could have imagined that we'd still be complaining about Griffey in center field in the final week of the season... with the Sox holding onto a 1.5 game lead... in a Carlos Quentin-less outfield... with Nick Swisher on the bench. I gave Joe Cowley shit earlier in the year when he called Cabrera the 4th best shortstop on the White Sox--Cabrera's hit .301/.353/.392 since then--but you could honestly make a case for Griffey, who is, without a doubt, a first-ballot HOFer, being the Sox' 4th best CFer right now; even on a night when he drove in all 3 of the Sox runs.
Is it OK for me to use the word staked as a verb here, or does the only acceptable use refer to the act of driving a peg through Vazquez?
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Tomorrow's game is a must-win...
Blackburn has been the Twins second worse starter lately after Perkins. I think we all know what happens in the third game of this series if the Twins win the first two.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Sep 23, 2008 11:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
definitely tomorrow is a must win
and i’m glad to see burls on the mound…let’s get it done
takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm
by furby2056 on Sep 24, 2008 12:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
this comment is giving me some serious déjà vu.
You're on thin fucking ice my pedigree chums, and I shall be under it when it breaks. Now, fuck off.
by MarketMaker on Sep 24, 2008 12:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He realized people would stop going to the game thread, so he had to post it again here to make sure everyone read his doom and gloom scenario.
Why so serious?
by reardenmettle on Sep 24, 2008 12:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
god forbid his words of wisdom did not make it to whatever was the most recent/popular thread.
You're on thin fucking ice my pedigree chums, and I shall be under it when it breaks. Now, fuck off.
by MarketMaker on Sep 24, 2008 12:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So you disagree with the comment?
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Sep 24, 2008 1:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It doesn't matter whether or not we agree with you.
That wasn’t the point.
Why so serious?
by reardenmettle on Sep 24, 2008 1:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just want to tell you both good luck, we're all counting on you.
by The Actual El Guapo on Sep 24, 2008 1:01 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
rec'd.
I am serious. And don’t call me Shirley.
You're on thin fucking ice my pedigree chums, and I shall be under it when it breaks. Now, fuck off.
by MarketMaker on Sep 24, 2008 1:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And you certainly have the drinking problem part down.
Or is that Colin?
by The Actual El Guapo on Sep 24, 2008 1:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
if you're asking me if i have a problem with colin, then the answer is yes. drinking? debatable.
You're on thin fucking ice my pedigree chums, and I shall be under it when it breaks. Now, fuck off.
by MarketMaker on Sep 24, 2008 1:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
looks like i picked the wrong day to stop sniffing glue
Uribe whispered, "My precious child, I love you and will never leave you, never, ever, during your trials and testings. When you saw only one set of footprints, It was then that I carried you."
by thecip on Sep 24, 2008 8:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i keep hearing this line in leslie nielson's voice in my head and grinning to myself.
You're on thin fucking ice my pedigree chums, and I shall be under it when it breaks. Now, fuck off.
by MarketMaker on Sep 24, 2008 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
college messes with my mind....
oh wait that’s the drinking
takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm
by furby2056 on Sep 24, 2008 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Didn't you already say this?
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Sep 24, 2008 8:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, yes you did.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Sep 24, 2008 8:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Record correction:
The Sox are 4-14 in Domes. They took 2 out of 3 against the Rays in Tampa earlier in the year.
(I’d forgotten about it too, until somebody corrected me.)
Chip, chip, chip, chip.
Sox Machine
by Sox Machine on Sep 23, 2008 11:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Modifying the last line from the linked Griffey piece
there was a game last night. And it sucked. And there will be a lot written about momentum, and ejections softball lineups, and stuff being thrown on the field the mentality of playing in the dome… against the Twins… in September. And not a lick of it will have any staying power as a narrative if the Sox rebound and start kicking kick ass over the final two months tomorrow.
by Christopher Michaels on Sep 24, 2008 12:11 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I just don't know...
how a management ‘team’ as intelligent as Ozzie and Kenny can be so stubborn on Griffey playing CF. It has to be the most mind-boggling decision in their (collective) tenure. I can see the case for Griffey playing over Swisher — I’d love to make an argument for Swish but he’s OPSing under .550 in his last 75 PA — but man, why not left field? I don’t know if I can recall seeing something so ridiculously absurd… seriously, was there anybody who thought Griffey could still even fake a CFer, statheads, media pundits and “experts” alike?
I also don’t want to get into the overblown hyperbole that you’re going to see everywhere, but damn if every single facet of this game was discouraging from Vazquez’ miserable performance (how many sliders did he hang in those four+ innings — 10 or more?) to the same, lethargic offense. Dye has been miserable since Q’s injury, and while Thome has stayed steady, he’s no longer the 150 OPS+ guy that can carry the team by his lonesome.
And finally — going off-tangent for a second here — listening to the Twins broadcast made this all the more painful. I want Bert Blyleven so badly to get hit in the groin. I hate having to sit through a game with those two schmucks on the mic.
by CWSKeith on Sep 24, 2008 12:27 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
argh -- that comes off as if I'm singling out Thome.
I’m not — he’s far down the list as far as current problems. Pierzynski has also been complete ass lately, and I think the knee injury took a bit of wind out of Konerko’s hot streak. I’m (quite obviously) not speaking in reality here, but at this point it might be best for Ozzie to just put out the best defensive group he can for these next two games (Wise in left, BA in center) and hope for the best.
by CWSKeith on Sep 24, 2008 12:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just turn the volume all the way down
It’s quite a soothing way to watch a baseball game actually. I had to do it with Hawk tonight. Re: Griffey, maybe Ozzie just doesn’t understand outfield defense. Nobody on their coaching staff (not counting Harold) played in the outfield so maybe nobody knows what the hell they’re looking at. I fully realize how lame this excuse is, but there has to be a reason and that’s the one I’m sticking with.
Also, I would love for the first question to Ozzie and Kenny at Soxfest to be about this. Ozzie demanded his third baseman catch the ball and not worry about hitting which is why Uribe initially played over Fields. So why did he do the opposite in CF.
by El Duque's Raft on Sep 24, 2008 12:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I actually didn't mind when my mlbtv sound kept cutting out last night. Those Twins guys are fucks.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Sep 24, 2008 8:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, please ask at Soxfest. Please show up with burning torches.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Sep 24, 2008 8:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Playing Ken Griffey, Jr. over Nick Swisher or BA
at this point is just plain batshit crazy — until (and if) we clinch, I don’t need to see him in any role other than as a late inning lefty PH. The man is clearly just completely dead. Not just resting, not pining for the fjords; dead. He is an un-parrot. If he really wants to play for a World Series team, he should start by taking himself out of the lineup. Larry’s train wreck posts way back when were obviously spot-on — this is rapidly turning into Erstad-esque debacle.
Not a big point, but was anyone else kind of amazed to see Boone Logan in this game? Sure, the game was sorta out of hand (6 runs and it seemed like more), but good God, the man has sucked as hard as it is possible to suck at every level since freakin’ May, and basically laid down on the job in Yankee Stadium last week. I honestly thought we had seen the last of him in a Sox uniform.
And I’ve said it many times tonight, but I’ll say it again anyway: Javy Vazquez is an annoying, annoying man. 6 straight balls to lead off the 2nd in the biggest game of the year after your team takes the lead on the road? Nice work. No. Seriously. Nice work.
by The Actual El Guapo on Sep 24, 2008 12:32 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
At this point
he should be a pinch hitter in an extra inning game when Thome has been taken out for a pinch runner. That’s his only value.
by El Duque's Raft on Sep 24, 2008 12:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Top 10 current uses for Ken Griffey, Jr.:
10. Pinch hitter in extra inning game when Thome has been taken out for a pinch runner
9. Emergency 7th catcher
8. Emergency team bus driver
7. Designated high-giver/fist-puncher/forearm-basher
6. Foil/straight-man for witty mid-inning repartee between Harold, Herm and Oney
5. Masturbatory device for Hawk and DJ
4. Ballast for team blimp/hot air balloon/see-saw
3. Kindling
2. Bait
1. Shiny new toy for KW
It’s certainly hard to dislike the guy, but this is not the time or place for the gold watch treatment.
by The Actual El Guapo on Sep 24, 2008 12:54 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
No. 5
‘Stretch, get on back there’
by El Duque's Raft on Sep 24, 2008 12:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
question re: #7.
when you say designated high-giver, are you suggesting that he deal drugs to his teammates? or that he be somehow ingested by his teammates in such a way that they get a euphoric feeling?
You're on thin fucking ice my pedigree chums, and I shall be under it when it breaks. Now, fuck off.
by MarketMaker on Sep 24, 2008 1:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
#7 (addition)
ear-grabber
(as in, when BA is actually playing (if that ever happens) and gets an actual timely hit, and actually contributes positively to the team, Griffey can grab his big ol’ ears and shake his head in congratulation…like that one time)
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Sep 24, 2008 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
gold watch treatment?
Maybe we should hide him up someone’s asshole for a couple years….
“I wore this uncomfortable hunk of HOFer up my ass….”
And yes – kindling – excellent.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Sep 24, 2008 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There's a reason...
that Hobby is 12 – 15 this season and 127 – 128 in his career. Wins and losses are normally the worst way to judge a pitcher but Vazquez is just a loser, especially when it comes to big games. No one with his supposed ace-quality stuff should be 127 – 128 in his career.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Sep 24, 2008 12:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And how fitting is it...
that Vazquez had his best season in a long while last year when the Sox were far out of contention?
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Sep 24, 2008 12:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but he was great with Montreal in the late 90's and early 00's, when they were ...
Oh. Right.
I do not buy the “he’s just a loser” argument. I do not buy the “weak psyche” argument. But it doesn’t matter, because at the end of the day you and I come to the same place (gulp).
The fact is that the guy is consistently inconsistent and maddeningly unreliable, particularly against good teams. If we make the playoffs, he’s gotta be the number 4 (and if Contreras were healthy, Javy would be in the bullpen).
by The Actual El Guapo on Sep 24, 2008 1:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I buy the "he's a punk" argument
See below.
White Sox, that’s baseball.
by vince_ on Sep 24, 2008 1:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The "he's a punk" argument?
In what regard, Charlie?
by The Actual El Guapo on Sep 24, 2008 1:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's just a punk
White Sox, that’s baseball.
by vince_ on Sep 24, 2008 1:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
eloquent, yet understated.
You're on thin fucking ice my pedigree chums, and I shall be under it when it breaks. Now, fuck off.
by MarketMaker on Sep 24, 2008 1:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's just one of those guys you know will never pull it together
and live up to his potential.
All the talent in the world and for whatever reason, when things really matter, in the “big games”, can’t play up to that talent level.
He is what he is.
White Sox, that’s baseball.
by vince_ on Sep 24, 2008 1:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think hawk made a pretty poignant comment when he talked about javy's pitch selection issues.
he seems to lack a killer instinct in that regard. he has several good pitches, but there is simply no need to show every batter every one of them, especially in the same at-bat. they can’t hit the fastball? why give them anything else? always try to keep something in reserve. he hangs way too many pitches, too, but i think that ties into pitch selection. it’s difficult to throw several different pitches well and in good locations in an at-bat. by that i mean it’s tough to have a good feel for several different pitches in an outing, let alone constantly interchanging between all of them.
You're on thin fucking ice my pedigree chums, and I shall be under it when it breaks. Now, fuck off.
by MarketMaker on Sep 24, 2008 2:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
how much of this is that asshole behind the plate trying to make him look bad?
"term: pussy, user: larry, count: 11
term: pussy, user: all, count: 83" - wiz
by Where Triples Go to Die on Sep 24, 2008 8:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
in defense of javy
it was a horseshit idea to send him out there against the yankees twice in yankee stadium. short rest, against a team that hits pretty well, that just saw him a few days before is a recipe for disaster.
And now they might use him on short rest again on saturday, putting him at 4 games in 12 days.
Its hard for any pitcher to look good in that situation.
’’We have the horses. Everyone has to stay positive and keep grinding." -Kenny
"Its almost gotten to be obscene that we cant get a man in from third base." -Hawk
by e-gus on Sep 24, 2008 8:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cowley is on this mission to single out the scared players
honestly, who could he mean? It’s no one on the infield. Certainly Thome’s career numbers in the dome don’t seem to indicate he’s shaking in his booties. Dye’s played on the biggest stage. The only people who stand out are Javy and Boone. Is Boone’s mental capacity really going to determine if the Sox win or not. I mean, come on.
by El Duque's Raft on Sep 24, 2008 12:40 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Pierzynski opened the story up...
I would like to know why Buehrle was talking about needing a 2.5 game lead before they get to Minnesota and talking about how they suck at the Metrodome. Gotta love that defeatist attitude by your top players.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Sep 24, 2008 12:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Buehrle is a hick, I'm not too worried about what he has to say
by El Duque's Raft on Sep 24, 2008 12:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Buehrle wasn't the only player to mention the team's weak psyche...
Cabrera and Pierzynski did as well.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Sep 24, 2008 12:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right, who the hell are they talking about?
by El Duque's Raft on Sep 24, 2008 12:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe instead of a new hitting coach
they should have a team therapist. Do these guys really have that short of memories? They won a huge series here in ‘05 and really the last time anything catastrophic to their playoff chances happened was in ’03. And there are exactly two people left from that team on this one. I mean, do you think Swisher and Wise are waxing poetically about that series? There’s no reason for anyone’s psyche to be affected by the dome. The only people who have negative memories with it are the fans and the media.
by El Duque's Raft on Sep 24, 2008 12:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
whoops
meant ‘that long of memories?’
by El Duque's Raft on Sep 24, 2008 12:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The mind is a strange thing, men.
We must begin by asking it "What is losing?
Losing is a disease…
…as contagious as polio.
Losing is a disease…
…as contagious as syphilis.
Losing is a disease…
…as contagious as bubonic plague…
… attacking one…
… but infecting all.
But curable.
Now, I want you to imagine … you are on a ship at sea…on a vast sea…gently rocking.
Gently rocking.
Gently rocking.
Gently rocking.
by The Actual El Guapo on Sep 24, 2008 1:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
4:30 PM., this afternoon.
HERE.
EVERYONE.
You’re the leader, TAEG.
If we all do it together, ………
It’s not going to hurt.
Everyone get down on their knees tonight and say a little (or maybe a medium sized) prayer................that Ken Griffey Jr. is not in the fucking lineup tomorrow. Call in all your chits.
by ballyb on Sep 24, 2008 7:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
should i get my black nikes on?
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Sep 24, 2008 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whatever it takes.
Everyone get down on their knees tonight and say a little (or maybe a medium sized) prayer................that Ken Griffey Jr. is not in the fucking lineup tomorrow. Call in all your chits.
by ballyb on Sep 24, 2008 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
uh el guapos sir
i think my ship is on fire.
’’We have the horses. Everyone has to stay positive and keep grinding." -Kenny
"Its almost gotten to be obscene that we cant get a man in from third base." -Hawk
by e-gus on Sep 24, 2008 8:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
AJ has no room to talk unless he is beating up on himself. That much is true.
He has blown. At bat, on the bases, and behind the plate, through and through.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Sep 24, 2008 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think this automatically implies a "defeatist attitude." It can't just mean he would prefer a cushion heading into the series in a place notorious for shutting us down?
I don’t think I saw the original article, so maybe I’m missing context. But I don’t consider him wanting a bigger division lead, a “defeatist attitude.”
I don’t see what the big fucking deal is with players (ones who are actually showing up and performing for the fucking games ie; OC and MB) making very true statements about the team and the season.
It’s no secret that we have suffered since the loss of Q, whether that is the direct reason is irrelevant….
We are struggling. That’s not defeatist, that is the truth. And I certainly have no problem with the best players on the team acknowledging that.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Sep 24, 2008 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
if sox make it to playoffs
it will be more dome time in tampa bay
by The Scoper on Sep 24, 2008 12:49 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Vazquez is a punk
Vazquez is a punk like Benson was a punk for the Bears.
Worse even because Vazquez is immensely talented but lacks the discipline to actually do anything with that talent when it matters. Ear infection. Please. How ridiculous is that shit – Q fucking broke his arm and the only thing keeping him off the field is Herm saying no.
White Sox, that’s baseball.
by vince_ on Sep 24, 2008 1:17 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
"discipline"
couldn’t it…ah, fuck. why bother? people have taken the “javy has great stuff ergo it must be a mental issue” hawkism hook, line, sinker.
the difference between a twins homer and a communist is that the communist knows what he's doing.
by larry on Sep 24, 2008 8:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You have an alternative explanation?
Then be out with it.
Also not everything Hawk says is false – and to say there is not a mental aspect to the game of baseball would be a pretty ridiculous statement!
White Sox, that’s baseball.
by vince_ on Sep 24, 2008 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i've written enough about javy in the past. people can believe whatever garbage they want.
the difference between a twins homer and a communist is that the communist knows what he's doing.
by larry on Sep 24, 2008 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry I don't feel like searching through Larry's collected works right now
Want to refresh me?
White Sox, that’s baseball.
by vince_ on Sep 24, 2008 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no, not particularly.
apparently i lack the discipline.
the difference between a twins homer and a communist is that the communist knows what he's doing.
by larry on Sep 24, 2008 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Certainly not lacking the holier-than-thou, know-it-all attitude
So if you’re not going to posit an alternative explanation, why not just sit this one out champ?
Thanks.
White Sox, that’s baseball.
by vince_ on Sep 24, 2008 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i've already posited the alternative explanation multiple times in response to the same garbage. i'm pretty sure i said right at the start "why bother?" my thoughts on constructively rebutting the idiocy of sox fans and sports "experts" today are obvious.
the difference between a twins homer and a communist is that the communist knows what he's doing.
by larry on Sep 24, 2008 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, well I'm a little sick and tired of you
coming into a thread, criticizing some statement (without backing it up) and without positing your ideas either.
It’s your version of shitting on a thread.
If you got something to say about my ideas, back it up. Otherwise STFU.
White Sox, that’s baseball.
by vince_ on Sep 24, 2008 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
sorry. i lack the discipline.
i don’t need to back up my criticism when someone posts something so patently meaningless. i’ll exercise my prerogative and simply ridicule it instead of stooping to such a level as to actually discuss it.
the difference between a twins homer and a communist is that the communist knows what he's doing.
by larry on Sep 24, 2008 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And by doing so you weaken your own argument
Which since you won’t spell it out, I’ll just put words into your mouth.
Larry posits that there is no mental aspect to baseball, which is patently ridiculous.
Sabermetrics mostly just explains the what about the player – saying a pitcher has a high GB/FB ratio does not explain why he does. I don’t think you’d find anyone at BP making claims that mechanics or the mental game don’t affect a player’s performance – yet you seem to be. That is a statement that is going out on a huge limb.
White Sox, that’s baseball.
by vince_ on Sep 24, 2008 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
in the time you took to put words in my mouth
you could have just looked up my words. but that would require something, wouldn’t it.
the difference between a twins homer and a communist is that the communist knows what he's doing.
by larry on Sep 24, 2008 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I tried a search.
I came up with a something you quoted comparing Vazquez’s FIP to his ERA (you posted that without comment), and some snarky comments ridiculing people’s questioning Vazquez’s mental toughness. I find no alternative explanation.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on Sep 24, 2008 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
your searching sucks.
perhaps try other words, hmm.
the difference between a twins homer and a communist is that the communist knows what he's doing.
by larry on Sep 24, 2008 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've tried many different search terms.
Nobody knows what the hell you’re talking about but you, larry.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on Sep 24, 2008 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
then "why bother?"
i’m not interested in discussing again and said so from the start.
the difference between a twins homer and a communist is that the communist knows what he's doing.
by larry on Sep 24, 2008 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then just let it go.
If you’re not interested in discussing it, just shut the hell up. Ridiculing other posters doesn’t do anything.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on Sep 24, 2008 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
provides me amusement.
the difference between a twins homer and a communist is that the communist knows what he's doing.
by larry on Sep 24, 2008 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bully for you.
I suppose many people find trolling to be an endless source of amusement.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on Sep 24, 2008 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
as near as i can tell from reading this site, they do.
but, remember, someone has to feed the trolls by responding, don’t they?
the difference between a twins homer and a communist is that the communist knows what he's doing.
by larry on Sep 24, 2008 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
True.
I try to ignore crap like this most of the time, but like you, I don’t always have the discipline.
I read stuff that I don’t agree with all the time. Sometimes I feel like refuting it, sometimes I just ignore it and let it go. I don’t try and belittle people because they have a different opinion than I do, without bothering to try and further the discussion.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on Sep 24, 2008 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yours is the better policy.
i think everyone knows you’re more adult than i am. i’m an asshole and don’t hide it.
the difference between a twins homer and a communist is that the communist knows what he's doing.
by larry on Sep 24, 2008 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gotta admire the honesty.
Props. Like Eddie Vrdolyak, “I don’t stab people in the back, I stab them in the front”. I prefer seeing it coming.
"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT
by winningugly on Sep 24, 2008 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"It's a racial thing. Don't kid yourself.... We're fighting to keep the city the way it is."
probably my favorite quote from fast eddie…i know what you mean, i like to know where people stand instead of pussyfootin’
by onlysoxfaninboston on Sep 24, 2008 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Memorable stuff from the Washington-Epton race
I was covering an Epton rally on the SW side and Bernie showed up to chants of ‘Go get’em Jew Boy!"
by RoyEgan on Sep 24, 2008 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love my city.
“I don’t mean nothin’ by it.”
"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT
by winningugly on Sep 24, 2008 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
if you're interested in knowing more about harold
fire on the prairie is a must read. author was a journalist for the chireader.
by onlysoxfaninboston on Sep 24, 2008 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, it would require you not being too lazy
to defend your own arguments.
The emperor has no clothes.
White Sox, that’s baseball.
by vince_ on Sep 24, 2008 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's true. but why debate with people like you when i can have fun in other ways?
the difference between a twins homer and a communist is that the communist knows what he's doing.
by larry on Sep 24, 2008 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i don't see why you can't pretend this community
offers you something other than a few mental playthings to bat around, tabby.
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
by colintj on Sep 24, 2008 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i do pretend sometimes.
other times i give up and bat them around. as i recall, on this very topic i pretended with you.
the difference between a twins homer and a communist is that the communist knows what he's doing.
by larry on Sep 24, 2008 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Larry, I got you something!!

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Sep 24, 2008 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
fuckin heartwarming
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
by colintj on Sep 24, 2008 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
as flies to wanton boys are we to the gods; They kill us for their sport.
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
by colintj on Sep 24, 2008 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that about sums it up.
the difference between a twins homer and a communist is that the communist knows what he's doing.
by larry on Sep 24, 2008 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
shakespeare rulz
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
by colintj on Sep 24, 2008 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Larry's from the
“Psyche is of little or no import in an athlete’s performance” camp.
Impact of a divorce – forget it.
Pressure on the 1st, 2nd …….18th tee when Joe Badootz paired w/ Tiger Woods in a major – doesn’t exist.
Jenks vs. Linebrink or Dotel – interchangeable.
on and on.
Everyone get down on their knees tonight and say a little (or maybe a medium sized) prayer................that Ken Griffey Jr. is not in the fucking lineup tomorrow. Call in all your chits.
by ballyb on Sep 24, 2008 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no. i'm not.
i’m from the “when there’s another pretty obvious reason, i’m far less inclined to resort to amorphous reasons” camp.
the difference between a twins homer and a communist is that the communist knows what he's doing.
by larry on Sep 24, 2008 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Larry is just getting nervous...
He made numerous posts ripping on anyone who thought that the Sox could blow their division lead to the Twins. He also made a few posts describing how it was near impossible to happen. Meanwhile, Larry forgot how pathetic the Sox are down the stretch and specifically at the Twinkiedome.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Sep 24, 2008 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
another great post from monsignor.
“relating” two points that have nothing to do with one another.
the difference between a twins homer and a communist is that the communist knows what he's doing.
by larry on Sep 24, 2008 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i can see his point. i mean, i see how much being wrong affects ssh.
"you threw it like a fucking hydrogen bomb."
by Toonderstrook on Sep 24, 2008 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I noticed you stopped ripping anyone...
who thinks that the Sox may blow the division after last night’s game.
Where are all the posts now talking about how it is a near impossibility and that some people are being ridiculously stupid?
Oops.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Sep 24, 2008 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i stopped?
like, you mean i haven’t posted repeatedly in the last 12 hours about something i’ve already mentioned a few times before on this site? gosh, why would i do something like that. people might get the impression that my position has changed! i know, i should repeat the same thing over and over on every single thread so i’m absolutely positive that everyone knows my position! great idea! i can’t see why anyone might find something like that, i don’t know, annoyingly ssh2005ish.
the difference between a twins homer and a communist is that the communist knows what he's doing.
by larry on Sep 24, 2008 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So it wasn't annoying and okay for you...
to post it numerous times before last night’s game?
I smell bullshit and back-tracking at the same time.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Sep 24, 2008 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you are clinically insane. and grasping. at nothing.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Sep 24, 2008 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
beautiful.
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
by colintj on Sep 24, 2008 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
did i really post it that much?
if so, all the more reason for me to not continue to post it then, eh?
the difference between a twins homer and a communist is that the communist knows what he's doing.
by larry on Sep 24, 2008 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, we agree there
I’m sure there are players that perform more poorly than others in pressure situations. But skill and physical ability I think are much more responsible for results than “psyche”.
In particular, I think ascribing a “fragile team psyche” to a group of people is silly.
by hitlesswonder on Sep 24, 2008 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"We agree" = me agreeing with larry
In case that was ambiguous
by hitlesswonder on Sep 24, 2008 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
99% of the time I'D agree.
Not in this case. I’ve seen this for 7-8 years now. There are phenomenons like this….often people like to dramatize and jump to these mystical conclusions…..this isn’t one of those times.
by dantesox on Sep 24, 2008 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep, the Sox have some sort of pussy mental block at the Twinkiedome.
I almost feel like not watching the next two games and just check the box scores on Thursday night.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Sep 24, 2008 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I will give you a dollar to do so.
by ReservoirDog on Sep 24, 2008 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think he could make a lot of money in this way.
the difference between a twins homer and a communist is that the communist knows what he's doing.
by larry on Sep 24, 2008 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ok everybody, pass the hat
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I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.
by thatshortkid on Sep 24, 2008 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's not JUST at the Metrodome.
It’s a Twins phenomenon that has gone on in meaningful games played antwhere…..and anyone who doesn’t acknowledge it being a real psychogical phenomenon is just not being very open-minded. This goes back 7 or 8 years. It’s real. It has real energy. And I am not into dramatization.
by dantesox on Sep 24, 2008 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Twins completely out of it. Doesn't count.
Meaningless games for them.
by dantesox on Sep 24, 2008 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
was that sweep at the cell meaningless, too?
the difference between a twins homer and a communist is that the communist knows what he's doing.
by larry on Sep 24, 2008 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Certainly not.
But that was what, May? Early June. Completely different atmosphere, lar, and you know it. You understand my point.
by dantesox on Sep 24, 2008 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You mean one in which they
Have recently played like crap? And now everything will be okay for a magnificent run?
The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.
by Tdogg on Sep 24, 2008 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh, i understand your point.
i’m just questioning the viability of it. like i said, i don’t know the answer or not. but there seems to be plenty of contravening evidence, too.
the difference between a twins homer and a communist is that the communist knows what he's doing.
by larry on Sep 24, 2008 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So the criteria for this "phenomenon" are:
1. Games between the Sox and MN in the last 8 years
2. Late in the year (8/1 and after?)
3. In which both teams are still in contention.
So, 2007, 2005, 2004 (Sox 2nd but well back by the time the 2 teams played), 2002 (same as 2004) and 2001 are all out.
So, basically, it’s 2003, 2006 and this year.
In ’03, the Sox and Twins split a 4 game series at the Cell 9/8-9/11 and the Twins swept 3 games in the Dome 9/16-9/18. The Sox were .5 behind coming in and left 3.5 back. Certainly a bad series.
In ’06, they played 2 series meeting the criteria, and the Twins won 2 out of 3 in both. Note, however, that both teams trailed the Tigers going into both those series, and the Sox were only a whopping .5 games back of the Twins in the wild card (eventually “won” by the Tigers) after the later of the 2 series.
That’s pretty much it.
Sorry, I don’t buy this one bit. This year’s version of the Sox doesn’t play well in MIN, granted. Isn’t it more likely, however, that it’s because (1) they don’t play well on the road generally, and (2) the dome uniquely highlights their weakensses (OF defense/speed) and diminishes their strenghts (power), than some defect in character which somehow only shows up in one place against one team?
by The Actual El Guapo on Sep 24, 2008 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Would you please stick to recaps and philosophy
and stop drawing conclusions? You are out of your comfort zone, sir. (If, in fact, you are a sir.)
"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT
by winningugly on Sep 24, 2008 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
nope, they're chokers. gag gag. insert whatever outrageous personal indictment upon the players. next.
by CWSKeith on Sep 24, 2008 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
if you don't think they are chokers, plain and simple, your're just a homer.
"you threw it like a fucking hydrogen bomb."
by Toonderstrook on Sep 24, 2008 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
1 and 6 at the Twinkiedome...
That is much worse than their road record.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Sep 24, 2008 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and another kitten dies.
the difference between a twins homer and a communist is that the communist knows what he's doing.
by larry on Sep 24, 2008 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
twins 2 and 7 at uscf...
that is much worse than their road record.
"you threw it like a fucking hydrogen bomb."
by Toonderstrook on Sep 24, 2008 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But those were early in the year, when wins only count half as much.
by The Actual El Guapo on Sep 24, 2008 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and whaddya know, so were all but one of the games in minnesota.
"you threw it like a fucking hydrogen bomb."
by Toonderstrook on Sep 24, 2008 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
white sox players molest children.
the difference between a twins homer and a communist is that the communist knows what he's doing.
by larry on Sep 24, 2008 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
white sox players molest children. 8 minutes ago.
fixed.
"you threw it like a fucking hydrogen bomb."
by Toonderstrook on Sep 24, 2008 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
shit, cowley beat me to it?
i guess that’s why i’m not in the newspaper business.
the difference between a twins homer and a communist is that the communist knows what he's doing.
by larry on Sep 24, 2008 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and they're pederasts.
fucking 8 year-olds dude.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Sep 24, 2008 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am not saying the Sox
are chokers, in the general sense. What I’m saying that there is something happening between the Sox and Twins way beyond the numbers, and the Twins are benefitting from the currentpsychological underpinnings, and basically have for several years now. In some way, I guess I am saying the Sox are chokers……in meaningful games vs. the Twins where it would appear they have at least equal talent. You can be as analytical and likely find facts that you could contend refute my claim of said phenomenon….but I could likely come up with other facts supportive of my stance. Separate yourself from that just for a second….do you really think there is nothing to what i say?
by dantesox on Sep 24, 2008 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry if I seemed assholic, it was certainly not my intent.
At the end of the day, neither you nor I nor anyone else on the site (except Kenwo, of coruse) knows why the Sox haven’t played well in the dome this year. I certainly find it tempting to agree with you that there is some subsurface “thing” going on there — that the Sox go in with a defeatist, losing attitude and that plays itself out. It is a tempting thought because it implies that there can and should be some Rocky-like moment where they overcome their fears, and just get their act together and start winning through sheer determination and force of will.
What I always come back to, though, is that these guys are professionals. They have been through unbelievable amounts of pressure their whole lives to get to this point — the very pinnacle of their profession. It seems odd to me that, despite being able to handle all that pressure for all that time and overcoming all of the odds that had to be overcome to get to this point, they suddenly crumble when faced with … what? A hostile crowd? An aggressive team? Don’t they face those things all the time? And is their record against the Twins really that uniquely bad, considering (again) that the park really does not favor their style of play?
Again, I don’t know for sure. Maybe they are playing scared. But, when given the choice, I tend to favor the explanation that seems more tangible/rational. Doesn’t mean I’m right.
by The Actual El Guapo on Sep 24, 2008 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just want to be sure I understand this argument
so the Sox — collectively, despite the fact that many on this particular ballclub have been here, at most, two seasons — have a mental block that won’t allow them to beat the Twins? Does this apply to the World Series team? Or are they mentally strong enough to go 11-1 in the post-season, win 99 regular season games, but — again — not strong enough to win with a roof over their heads?
It can’t just be that the Sox have been playing like crap lately (specifically the offense, who limped through the last two games of the KC series)? It can’t just be that Vazquez has, outside of last year, been this consistent all along?
by CWSKeith on Sep 24, 2008 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
*inconsistent*, rather
and fuck for italicizing that whole first paragraph.
by CWSKeith on Sep 24, 2008 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the dome record overall...
And the Twinkiedome records speak volumes.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Sep 24, 2008 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no, i think you meant consistent.
javy’s results are that of a #3 starter, most especially over the last five seasons. all this talk about ace this and great stuff that and look at those fucking sweet peripherals is bullshit. he’s 32. he’s pitched well over 2000 innings.
by larry on Sep 24, 2008 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wasn't it 3 days of rest?
Either way, not on the regular rotation…
by hitlesswonder on Sep 24, 2008 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It is sickening.
That is, the Javy has such great stuff thing. although, I also believe he could be mentally tougher. It wouldn’t hurt. But, basically I agree with you. The phenomena we AGAIN see before us, though….IS MAINLY a psychological thing…..that is….the Sox psychological impotence in meaningful games with the Twins…..NO MATTER WHERE THE GAMES ARE PLAYED. iT IS 7-8 YEARS OLD. They simply don’t handle the phenomena correctly….long story short…..they need to fess up, admit their powerlessness (ie. being psyched out)…..and go from there. Sounds corny, hah?
by dantesox on Sep 24, 2008 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Someone of stature....
Guillen or Konerko would be great…better Konerko…..should say this to Cowley…..“We are inexplicably totally psyched out by this Twins team…ballpark….organization…..we have to face it….they have it all over us….let’s just admit it. We all have seen it….felt it…lived it. It is what it is. And you can print that.”
by dantesox on Sep 24, 2008 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
setting aside whether your hypothesis is true or not
we all know they couldn’t do that (at least at this point in the season and not publicly). they’d get killed for it. but realizing ones shortcomings and actually considering and attacking the problem is always a good idea.
at any rate, even if the twinks have something over many of the sox, i think they don’t have it over MB. the sox just need one. for those who love looking at matchups, this is the most likely one.
the difference between a twins homer and a communist is that the communist knows what he's doing.
by larry on Sep 24, 2008 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I see the risk, yes.
But nothing else works. I believe it would significantly reduce the tension, even at this time.
by dantesox on Sep 24, 2008 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
winning tends to reduce tension, as well.
it’s not like the sox are the only ones who don’t find much success in the metrodome. i realize most people’s reference point is one team’s performance there but take a look at some other teams’ performance in the dome. not exactly stellar, either. at any rate, who knows. about as good a theory as any.
the difference between a twins homer and a communist is that the communist knows what he's doing.
by larry on Sep 24, 2008 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Umm sorry late to the party
Dante you do realize of the three games, last night was the one “less likely” for the Sox to win right?
The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.
by Tdogg on Sep 24, 2008 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that sounds like defeatism to me. you must be an obama supporter. or white sox player. could be both.
the difference between a twins homer and a communist is that the communist knows what he's doing.
by larry on Sep 24, 2008 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, I don't see that at all.
I see insignificance insofar as any one of these games being more predictable than another. I couldn’t disagree more with your premise that last night’s game was more ‘WINNABLE’ than the other two.
by dantesox on Sep 24, 2008 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well I did.
I thought victory was more likely either tonight or tomorrow. If they are all toss ups, then you should feel comfortable one will go their way.
The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.
by Tdogg on Sep 24, 2008 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think most people did.
Baker has been their ace of late.
by expatnyc on Sep 24, 2008 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My point is the Sox could throw the Lord Jesus Christ
and I don’t think it would matter. They’re not dealing as a unit with what ails. I know this sounds “out there,” but I calls ’em as I sees ’em.
by dantesox on Sep 24, 2008 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm gonna go ahead and say starting jesus would matter.
the difference between a twins homer and a communist is that the communist knows what he's doing.
by larry on Sep 24, 2008 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
Helluva palm ball.
Great control. Really manages the game well. Good under pressure. Good stamina.
He’d be a good #2 pitcher – not a great heater, not the “Ace”. But I’d take Him.
"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT
by winningugly on Sep 24, 2008 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
i heard he rose from the dead on one day's rest.
the difference between a twins homer and a communist is that the communist knows what he's doing.
by larry on Sep 24, 2008 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
that's almost back to back complete game territory
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
by colintj on Sep 24, 2008 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
yeah, but for some reason
youkilis always seems to be able to put good wood on Him
I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.
by thatshortkid on Sep 24, 2008 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Rec'd. ThoughI thought it was Shawn Green.
"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT
by winningugly on Sep 24, 2008 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Youkilis is Greek.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Sep 24, 2008 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he's a member of the tribe
the whole “greek god of walks” thing was just in moneyball. the man is jewish
"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."
by U-God on Sep 24, 2008 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are a goofball.
Wiki it. Tribesman. TSK is an effin’ genius. Rec the GD post.
"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT
by winningugly on Sep 24, 2008 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
thankee
and for your enjoyment, denis leary on youkilis and the tribe/mel gibson during a NESN broadcast.
warning: your sides, they may split.
I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.
by thatshortkid on Sep 24, 2008 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, Lenny Clarke is funner than Leary.
Do you watch them on “Rescue Me”? Excellent stuff.
"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT
by winningugly on Sep 24, 2008 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
nope. just dug on the linked video
I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.
by thatshortkid on Sep 24, 2008 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
his standup is pretty good, too. leary can be funny, but you gotta be in the right mood, otherwise he's just overbearing.
You're on thin fucking ice my pedigree chums, and I shall be under it when it breaks. Now, fuck off.
by MarketMaker on Sep 24, 2008 11:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's fucking outstanding
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
by colintj on Sep 24, 2008 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
here are the 4 moments that i felt defined this loss.
1. sox get thome and pk on 1st and 3rd, respectively, with no outs and junior immediately hits into a dp.
this was a golden opportunity for the sox, yet it almost felt as if they hadn’t even gained the momentum upon scoring.
2. after the sox “stake” javy to a 1 run lead, he immediately walks the leadoff hitter on 4 pitches.
if there is anything to this momentum stuff, then it’s hard to kill it more quickly than javy did with the leadoff walk.
3. with runners on 1st and 3rd and 1 out for the twins, the sox field an easy ground ball to 3rd and use their infamous rundown skills to manage an out yet put runners on 2nd and 3rd.
although the sox managed to pitch out of the inning without further damage, this has just been symptomatic of a team that rarely does anything to help itself out defensively. they execute the rundown like a little league team.
4. after getting runners on 1st and 2nd with nobody out, the sox didn’t manage to move those runners until a 2 out single from OC, which didn’t even manage to “plate” a runner.
3rd base is the only place that we can accurately call scoring position for these sox. 2nd base is barely better than 1st or being at the plate. thank god for the homeruns, because it would take 4 singles in an inning to do any scoring.
i know i reiterated cheat on some stuff here, but i think this game is a perfect example of how the sox lose games.
You're on thin fucking ice my pedigree chums, and I shall be under it when it breaks. Now, fuck off.
by MarketMaker on Sep 24, 2008 1:28 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Also - I don't know the exact amount of times that the Twins had the lead-off man on base....
BUT HOLY SHIT, IT SEEMED LIKE EVERY TIME THEY BATTED, THE LEAD-OFF GUY WAS ON BASE!!!!!!
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Sep 24, 2008 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, there's a special Metrodome-only rule that MLB instituted.
At the end of each inning on defense, the Twins are allowed to choose any one fielder and immediately place him on first base while the rest of the team heads to the dugout.
by ReservoirDog on Sep 24, 2008 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
phew! I missed that rule, but boy do I feel better now.... :)
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Sep 24, 2008 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Q still on the mend
But will it matter?
A heavy workload Tuesday produced the most encouraging results of Carlos Quentin’s rehabilitation from a right wrist fracture.
Although being activated for the first round of the playoffs remains a long shot, Quentin said he will have his wrist examined Friday in Chicago.
“Once it’s looked at, we’ll re-evaluate where I’m at and talk about swinging a bat and exactly what’s the best way of going about it as far as getting back in the swing,” an upbeat Quentin said.
Quentin declined to predict, however, if he could return next week.
“I’d like to throw out a percentage,” he said. "Every day I feel more optimistic about the healing process.
“If you asked me three days ago how I felt about it, I wouldn’t feel as positive. But I feel right now with what I’ve seen over the past couple of days that things are well.”
Quentin, who leads the Sox with 36 homers and 100 RBIs despite fracturing his wrist Sept. 1, said he has noticed the most improvement in his range of motion.
“There’s some pain involved, but with this type of situation, there’s going to be some,” Quentin said. "But afterward, it has bounced back well.
White Sox, that’s baseball.
by vince_ on Sep 24, 2008 1:49 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
he's more machine than man now, twisted and evil

Uribe whispered, "My precious child, I love you and will never leave you, never, ever, during your trials and testings. When you saw only one set of footprints, It was then that I carried you."
by thecip on Sep 24, 2008 8:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The best thing about last night's game
was the new episode of the Shield. The Sox could use a pep talk from Vic Mackey.
"Hell of a situation we got here. Two on, two out, your team down a run and you've got the chance to be the hero on national television... if you don't blow it. Saw your wife last night. Great little dancer. That guy she was with? I'm sure he's a close personal friend, but tell me, what was he doing with her panties on his head?"
by thekever on Sep 24, 2008 7:46 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think thats the best show on television
Uribe whispered, "My precious child, I love you and will never leave you, never, ever, during your trials and testings. When you saw only one set of footprints, It was then that I carried you."
by thecip on Sep 24, 2008 8:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Too bad its almost o-vah
"Hell of a situation we got here. Two on, two out, your team down a run and you've got the chance to be the hero on national television... if you don't blow it. Saw your wife last night. Great little dancer. That guy she was with? I'm sure he's a close personal friend, but tell me, what was he doing with her panties on his head?"
by thekever on Sep 24, 2008 9:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Wire
was the best show on TV until it finished up. The Shield is great, but I think it got way too into plot twists as opposed to issues over the past couple of seasons. I also really like Brotherhood on Showtime, which is kind of like The Wire but with Providence, RI and the Irish mob.
www.stallingtheman.blogspot.com
by Raf on Sep 24, 2008 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Wire
IMHO is the best written show ever. And this is from someone who has been in the trenches for 20-plus years. The Brotherhood or the Shield can’t hold a candle. What comes close? The BBC series MI-5.
by RoyEgan on Sep 24, 2008 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
in the trenches?
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
by colintj on Sep 24, 2008 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
writing for TV
name your fav. dramas of the last two decades. i’ve written/produced half of them, I bet.
by RoyEgan on Sep 24, 2008 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am currently writing a tv script, and I think it is pure brilliance. Been brewing the idea for about 5 years, and putting it on the page now.
My (educational) roots are in tv/film writing above non-fiction, which is what I’ve been doing for the past few years.
Will be aiming for HBO or Showtime.
Absolutely destined to succeed, this show….no joke at all.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Sep 24, 2008 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is it about a ragtag bunch of posters on a local sports team's unofficial message board?
Larry should be played by Russell Crow and SSH by Corky from ‘Life Goes On’.
Uribe whispered, "My precious child, I love you and will never leave you, never, ever, during your trials and testings. When you saw only one set of footprints, It was then that I carried you."
by thecip on Sep 24, 2008 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is Russell the grandson of Jim?
"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT
by winningugly on Sep 24, 2008 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hahahahaaha!
other suggestions:
Larry = Steve Buscemi
SSH = Eric Stoltz, in Mask
MM = that guy who plays Van Wilder
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Sep 24, 2008 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
homesickalien = Gwyneth Paltrow, in "Shallow Hal".
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Sep 24, 2008 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yep, when she's skinny and hot.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Sep 24, 2008 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Proof? Pics, plz.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Sep 24, 2008 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You wish.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Sep 24, 2008 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
can't find pics of a fellow poster?
you’re slipping, dude
I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.
by thatshortkid on Sep 24, 2008 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you are one creepy dude
"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."
by U-God on Sep 24, 2008 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I originally thought SSH should be stoltz from mask.
ha
Uribe whispered, "My precious child, I love you and will never leave you, never, ever, during your trials and testings. When you saw only one set of footprints, It was then that I carried you."
by thecip on Sep 24, 2008 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
excellent.
We should probably start calling him Rocky immediately.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Sep 24, 2008 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
off-topic
why the fuck did the bears release mark bradley? I know he was oft. injured but at least when healthy he was the 2nd best receiver on the team behind lloyd! Sheid is a bum who drops too many passes, and besides Sheid who else do we have? Can I see Earl Bennett stretch a field?
"term: pussy, user: larry, count: 11
term: pussy, user: all, count: 83" - wiz
by Where Triples Go to Die on Sep 24, 2008 8:17 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Bennett can return kicks, so Vasher can stick to playing corner? Just an idea, no clue if that had anything to do with it. Might have nothing to do with Bradley, and something to do with the nickelback situation or Vasher returning punts.
by Grinder in Training on Sep 24, 2008 8:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bradley was a bust
Either the Bears did not know how to use him, or he did not make the best of the chances he was given. Either way, his Bear career added up to bubkus (not Butkus). I really got a good chuckle out of him in the off season when he said he was the #1 receiver.
"Hell of a situation we got here. Two on, two out, your team down a run and you've got the chance to be the hero on national television... if you don't blow it. Saw your wife last night. Great little dancer. That guy she was with? I'm sure he's a close personal friend, but tell me, what was he doing with her panties on his head?"
by thekever on Sep 24, 2008 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
nice headline
whats the Twins magic number?
7 or 8?
also, has anyone seen Jermaine Dye?
I havent seen him in a while.
’’We have the horses. Everyone has to stay positive and keep grinding." -Kenny
"Its almost gotten to be obscene that we cant get a man in from third base." -Hawk
by e-gus on Sep 24, 2008 8:25 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
get Griffey out of this line up
and tell him to take his fat fucking arse with him
....fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts
by hoodlight on Sep 24, 2008 8:29 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
the fear was all over Javy's face
all i could think of -an apples and orange comparison - was Jordan in big games with that ‘just gimmee the ball’ look in the 4th quarter. the hunger, the desire and confidence…
by RoyEgan on Sep 24, 2008 8:35 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
you out pony-shopping today?
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Sep 24, 2008 8:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that pos puts one up in the end of the game, when it means absolutely nothing. did that make you hurt a little? or were you hoping for a pony too?
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Sep 24, 2008 8:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
my 10-year old has been lobbying for some time
she rides, of course, gets all A’s and is the apple of my eye. there’s a sweet little pinto at the stable and it would be my pleasure. still, giffey’s useless.
by RoyEgan on Sep 24, 2008 8:41 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
ah, fabulous for her! you should name the pony General Soreness.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Sep 24, 2008 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Squak and BJ
I know this is a broken freaking record, but does ANY team of announcers ladle on the bullshit like these two when talking about the Twins? These two Twinkie lovers forced me to put the game on mute.
"Hell of a situation we got here. Two on, two out, your team down a run and you've got the chance to be the hero on national television... if you don't blow it. Saw your wife last night. Great little dancer. That guy she was with? I'm sure he's a close personal friend, but tell me, what was he doing with her panties on his head?"
by thekever on Sep 24, 2008 9:05 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
hadn't noticed
"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."
by U-God on Sep 24, 2008 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Off- topic and unreal -- george brett shits his pants
by RoyEgan on Sep 24, 2008 9:11 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
So you feel better now that you have company, OPOS?
"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT
by winningugly on Sep 24, 2008 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't believe RoyEgan needs Depends yet like some posters around here, haha.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Sep 24, 2008 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The best part of the video is how Brett spends three minutes telling his pant-shitting stories...
And then in the last three seconds, he asks, “who’s the pitchers in this game?”
No wonder the Royals suck so bad.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Sep 24, 2008 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mark will pleasure us fans like he pleasures his wife

Uribe whispered, "My precious child, I love you and will never leave you, never, ever, during your trials and testings. When you saw only one set of footprints, It was then that I carried you."
by thecip on Sep 24, 2008 9:16 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Probably kissing his pregnant wife's belly, you perv.
Innocent moment defiled. Thanks.
"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT
by winningugly on Sep 24, 2008 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Removing her navel lint perhaps?
"There will be surgery. It will heal. It will heal fast."- Carlos Quentin on NBC 5 News Chicago (9/5/08)
by tailgater on Sep 24, 2008 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Could not watch the whole thing last night.
Didn’t matter. We have known for a long time that this would pretty much come down to us v. Minny. And I don’t believe when we were discussing the “stopper” person who you want out there in a “must” game anyone picked Javy, for whatever reason. Mine was MB, and he’ll either man up tonight or not. But I’ve got my guy against someone who’s been on fumes lately, and I’m OK with that.
Let’s take it one at a time. We’re still up 1.5 games. We’re not the Rays this year (up 3, playing well down the stretch against good opponents, spanking bad ones) but we’re GD in first. So strap it on for tonight – I have no girls gymnastics practice to detract from the event at hand this evening.
SO GET JACKED UP! QUIT SNIPING! FORM TESTUDO! NO ONE GETS OUT ALIVE!
"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT
by winningugly on Sep 24, 2008 9:56 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Thank you.
I was as excited about the game yesterday as anyone here.
And I was equally disappointed at the series of disasters that occurred throughout the game.
I tried to watch the whole thing, but passed out in the 8th, due to all the damn wine the Sox made me drink. I am sober now – and still not entirely emotionally distraught….
Last night was the game to lose, if any. Sure, it would be nice to take the first game and ride on a little stoke/momentum into the rest of the series.
But it didn’t happen that way because, by some unforeseen miracle, Javy, our defense, and our offense SUCKED!
bally made a good point last night – tonight’s game means a great deal for both teams’ spirits and mentality – more than any other.
MB is the guy who needs to step up. I trust him, regardless of what his history against the Twins shows. I always put faith in MB.
It’s our offense who I have little faith in…..and I can’t shake my utter and complete disagreement of benching BA to start Griffey. Absolute horseshit.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Sep 24, 2008 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"I can’t shake my utter and complete disagreement of benching BA to start Griffey. Absolute horseshit."
I couldn’t have said it better myself.
this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry
by rhythm on Sep 24, 2008 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
addressing a somewhat peripheral point to the overall one.
but it’s rather hard at this point to bench the one guy who actually has been hitting recently.
by larry on Sep 24, 2008 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
are you speaking of BA?
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Sep 24, 2008 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
either is fair.
though one has always been on the bench and the other has always not. magic dewayne rather screws things up.
by larry on Sep 24, 2008 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
MB era against Minny this year = 6.43. Get ready for a sotball game.
by Rick B on Sep 24, 2008 10:03 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Blackburn's last two starts...
0-2, 5.1 innings, 15 hits, 12 earned runs. Let’s hope he keeps this crap up…
"Hell of a situation we got here. Two on, two out, your team down a run and you've got the chance to be the hero on national television... if you don't blow it. Saw your wife last night. Great little dancer. That guy she was with? I'm sure he's a close personal friend, but tell me, what was he doing with her panties on his head?"
by thekever on Sep 24, 2008 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If there ever was
a situation / arena where a team assists the healing of another team, almost “Lazarus like,” it seems like the Sox / Twins in he RollerDome.
Everyone get down on their knees tonight and say a little (or maybe a medium sized) prayer................that Ken Griffey Jr. is not in the fucking lineup tomorrow. Call in all your chits.
by ballyb on Sep 24, 2008 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You might want to look at Mark's career record vs the Twins
As well as his recent performance.
The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.
by Tdogg on Sep 24, 2008 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
dat's what i'm sayin'
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Sep 24, 2008 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was wondering why everyone was excited about Buehrle starting tonight, lol...
I remember him giving up two two-run bombs in the same inning the last time he pitched in the Twinkiedome. The Twins own his shit.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Sep 24, 2008 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
At least this season.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Sep 24, 2008 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
BECAUSE SOME OF US DON'T RELY ON ONE OR TWO CRAPPY OUTINGS AMONG MANY GREAT ONES, WHEN FORMING OUR OPINIONS ON A GUY.
BUERHLE HAS BEEN OWNING EVERYONE HE’S RECENTLY FACED.
He may suck it up tonight just as well – WE’LL HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE.
BUT WHY MUST WE WILL IT TO HAPPEN BECAUSE HE HAD A BAD OUTING EARLIER IN THE SEASON?
geezus, you suck.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Sep 24, 2008 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's either the Twinkiedome effect or the dome effect in general this season...
This team has choked in domes this season and they have a pathetic mental stigma against the Twins at the Twinkiedome.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Sep 24, 2008 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't disagree with the dome thing - but let's not assume MB will suck, when he has given us nothing but gold lately, and for a decade overall.
Why condemn the game before it even starts?
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Sep 24, 2008 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nothing to do with a mental stigma
The fact is, three teams who play in domes also happen to be great at home, and happen to be three of the top teams in the league.
That we have the slowest outfield in the league has something to do with it too.
by Grinder in Training on Sep 24, 2008 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Correction:
That we field the slowest outfield in the league……..
Everyone get down on their knees tonight and say a little (or maybe a medium sized) prayer................that Ken Griffey Jr. is not in the fucking lineup tomorrow. Call in all your chits.
by ballyb on Sep 24, 2008 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm gonna go ahead and say that if the sox fielded their most appropriate outfield, they'd still be the slowest outfield in the league.
the difference between a twins homer and a communist is that the communist knows what he's doing.
by larry on Sep 24, 2008 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
DON'T EVEN WATCH TONIGHT!!!!!!!!!!! WHAT'S THE POINT? I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHY WE ARE SUITING UP IN THE FIRST PLACE!
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Sep 24, 2008 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
now you're talking some sense.
"you threw it like a fucking hydrogen bomb."
by Toonderstrook on Sep 24, 2008 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
On the upside, I may get to see the clincher game on Saturday in person!
After the Kubel dinger, I mostly channel surfed, settling on “The Office” and “Family Guy” reruns on TBS.
When I did switch back to the game, for some reason, I kept hearing circus music in my head.
The Sox, especially Javy, looked like they didn’t want to even be in the stadium. What a suckfest (not the good kind).
"There will be surgery. It will heal. It will heal fast."- Carlos Quentin on NBC 5 News Chicago (9/5/08)
by tailgater on Sep 24, 2008 10:17 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Twins play the Royals for the final series, right?
What are the chances that the Royals, who have nothing to lose, and a grudge against the Sox, just sorta play like shit for the series?
Since we are such a thorn in the collective side of the Royals, it seems like that would be the one way they could harm us without actually playing us (in which we tend to harm them more anyway).
Just speculating….if this Dome series doesn’t yield a Sox win, this weekend is going to be huge for both teams, obviously.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Sep 24, 2008 10:33 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
*just sorta play like shit
= more than the average Royals shit-playing, maybe with some deliberate shit, since nobody would really notice.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Sep 24, 2008 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nah.
Professional athletes don’t do stuff like that.
Particularly teams like the Royals, who are going to field a bunch of young guys who have something to prove.
If the Royals get beat, it’ll be because they’re not a very good team, not because they’re not trying.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on Sep 24, 2008 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, i don't think they'll play like shit deliberately. but you can sandbag it some. look at the mariners for an example.
but it’s a function of who they’re trotting out there. the royals will still be sending their top players out (including pitchers) and it’s not like those guys will want to suck. i wouldn’t want to face meche and greinke in important games at anytime.
the difference between a twins homer and a communist is that the communist knows what he's doing.
by larry on Sep 24, 2008 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
troof.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Sep 24, 2008 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Greinke with the shutout last night, BTW.
"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT
by winningugly on Sep 24, 2008 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would certainly hope not....but it almost seems to easy....
I definitely think my speculation is far-fetched, don’t get me wrong.
But it still is on the back of my mind….I’ll be looking for any appearingly deliberate sucking from the Royals this weekend.
:)
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Sep 24, 2008 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
*too
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Sep 24, 2008 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll be shocked if the Sox don't get swept
The fact is that MN is simply a much better team right now. The wins the Sox can get at this point are when their pitching dominates and that won’t happen with MB on turf and Floyd.
That being said, any team bad and stupid enough to play Griffey in CF repeatedly doesn’t deserve to make the playoffs.
by hitlesswonder on Sep 24, 2008 10:34 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
when did the twins become a much better team right now? hadn't the twins been playing even more poorly than the sox until yesterday?
"you threw it like a fucking hydrogen bomb."
by Toonderstrook on Sep 24, 2008 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
reference point: one game.
the difference between a twins homer and a communist is that the communist knows what he's doing.
by larry on Sep 24, 2008 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Didn't the Twins split against TB on the road?
They have a worse Sept. record, but they have had a less favorable schedule IMO.
The Twins have an offense, unlike the current Sox. With Slowey,Baker, or Liriano on the mound the Twins are a much better team. Blackburn I’m less sure of, but MB on turf against a high contact team I think is bad news.
by hitlesswonder on Sep 24, 2008 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Twins/Rays
Rays could have swept. They should have won game one. Blew it in the 9th. I’m surprised they were even in the building on Sunday (game four) after celebrating the first post season clinch in team history.
"Hell of a situation we got here. Two on, two out, your team down a run and you've got the chance to be the hero on national television... if you don't blow it. Saw your wife last night. Great little dancer. That guy she was with? I'm sure he's a close personal friend, but tell me, what was he doing with her panties on his head?"
by thekever on Sep 24, 2008 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you're right. floyd has just sucked in the metrodome and, fuck it, overall. worst pitcher they could send out there. where's aaron poreda?
the difference between a twins homer and a communist is that the communist knows what he's doing.
by larry on Sep 24, 2008 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
MB and Floyd are not the two most trusted pitchers we have!!!????
The Sox all suck at the Dome, let’s not use Dome stats to predict what will happen in the Dome (that sounds foolish, but I’m serious).
I might worry more about Gavin, sure, for a lack of experience.
But MB’s solid, and has the head to pitch big tonight.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Sep 24, 2008 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
floyd? another guy with a lack of discipline. i hear he's got great stuff but his mind is weak and makes him hang pitches. don't talk about repeatable mechanics, release point, blah blah fucking blah. he's a pussy. and, as you point out, virgin pussy.
the difference between a twins homer and a communist is that the communist knows what he's doing.
by larry on Sep 24, 2008 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sigh...I like Floyd
I think he’s good. But he’s not going to hold the Twins to one run or less in the dome, which is what he would need to do for the Sox to win.
by hitlesswonder on Sep 24, 2008 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol. you guys are something else.
the difference between a twins homer and a communist is that the communist knows what he's doing.
by larry on Sep 24, 2008 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your prediction on the number of runs the Sox score tonight & tomorrow?
by hitlesswonder on Sep 24, 2008 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm going to take the over on your prediction, that's for sure.
the difference between a twins homer and a communist is that the communist knows what he's doing.
by larry on Sep 24, 2008 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, how many runs will they score?
I say three again.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Sep 24, 2008 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i gotta be honest. i think picking scores for individual games is pretty silly, sort of like picking wins in individual games. too many variables. i just don't really do it. i feel comfortable in asserting they'll score more than one, though.
the difference between a twins homer and a communist is that the communist knows what he's doing.
by larry on Sep 24, 2008 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes he is.
The Twins have sucking capacity too. They are not infallible.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Sep 24, 2008 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, but he has brand new big hairy balls.
compliments of Giambi.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Sep 24, 2008 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
that Floyd, mentally he aint got it, just gets very lucky the majority of the times he goes out there. good job he got his head shaved.
regards
....fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts
by hoodlight on Sep 24, 2008 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Speechless
Did you honestly think before you posted this?
The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.
by Tdogg on Sep 24, 2008 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is it that controversial?
I think it’s likely to Sox get swept. Clearly, there’s a significant probability the Sox lose the next 2 games:
— they are on the road
— on turf
— pitching matchups are at best even (Slowey better than Floyd, MB better than
Blackburn BUT a bad matchup for the Twins with the high BA and turf).
— the Twins have a much better offense than the Sox right now.
The Sox could win one or both (and I would be very happy) — I’m not saying they have no chance to do so. Just that I think the chance is small.
So there, I did think some about it before posting. As with most things, it’s quality of thought that’s in dispute, not quantity.
by hitlesswonder on Sep 24, 2008 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Umm yes it is
Likely? Sigh.
1. The Sox have a sizable pitching match up advantage this evening. Blackburn is on fumes.
2. How can you casually say Slowey better than Floyd? I guess its your gut.
Its never likely for any team to sweep a decent opponent period.
Its never likely for a team playing as bad as the Twins have recently to sweep any team. They have been in must win mode for awhile yet somehow failed to sweep Detroit or KC in their last home stand.
Hard for me to understand the reasoning the Twins are better now even though they played worse with an easier schedule recently.
This overreaction is just silly to me. People stop acting like the Sox have been fantastic on the road and they lost this must win game worth 3 games.
The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.
by Tdogg on Sep 24, 2008 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the issue (i hope) is how people are defining "likely".
you appear to mean it in the “is it more likely than not” way. hitless appears to be meaning it in the “it’s a realistic outcome but maybe not arising to the level of 51%”.
the difference between a twins homer and a communist is that the communist knows what he's doing.
by larry on Sep 24, 2008 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How in the hell is it likely that our offense will score any runs the next two days?
Lately, they have been giving out quality starts to mediocre-to-crappy pitchers like it’s candy and they aren’t hitting at The Cell.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Sep 24, 2008 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm your right
They will get shut out over the next 2 games.
The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.

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