Ozzie Guillen Speaks the Truth
Nick Blackburn did not pitch well on Wednesday night. But White Sox' hitters were unable to make him pay for what could have been his third straight shellacking. Ozzie is tired of it, and he's not going to go out of his way to praise a pitcher who is made to look good by the dormant Sox offense.
"I don't give credit to the guys that don't deserve credit,'' Guillen said of Blackburn. "Believe me, I give credit to the pitcher when they deserve it. We didn't get the clutch hit, it wasn't because of the way he pitched.''
Comments
Yep, Blackburn threw junk over the plate and hung a lot of pitches...
I’m glad Ozzie is saying this, not that it will do any good.
But I’m sure the offense will do better against Slowey tomorrow. Afterall, sweeps are like the hardest thing in baseball to do. It’s even hard to sweep a bad team like the Royals.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Sep 25, 2008 1:30 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
correct me if i'm wrong...
did you not say last week that 2/3 against the royals would be a success? so…why are you still on this?
by Craig Grebeck on Sep 25, 2008 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Royals have won 11 of 13,
runs -— 85 – 35.
Yep, It’s even hard to sweep a bad team like the Royals.
Yeah, SSH2005, you are a sorry loser.
by ballyb on Sep 25, 2008 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was told that it's hard to sweep any team...
Meaning the Sox should not get swept tonight.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Sep 25, 2008 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well...
looking at percentages, which i’m sure you so often don’t , i’d say the vast majority of series in mlb do not end in sweeps. is that tough to understand?
by Craig Grebeck on Sep 25, 2008 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fine, and I was told that by many of you guys...
which is why we shouldn’t be worried about tonight.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Sep 25, 2008 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't worry about baseball...
I’m in college. I have concerns beyond 25 men tossing a ball around a dome. I enjoy it, I watch it, I root for the Sox and I spend a whole hell of a lot of time reading about it, but I’m not going to sit around and fret all day. If we win tonight, great. If we lose, shit. Life goes on.
by Craig Grebeck on Sep 25, 2008 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of course life goes on
but if you get pissed when your team loses, victory is so much sweeter. Not caring about losing is a Cubs fan mentality. The Sox aren’t going to ruin your life, but you should still care for the games as a true fan.
www.stallingtheman.blogspot.com
by Raf on Sep 25, 2008 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I care about the games...
I am not going to throw myself into a tizzy because we lost. It doesn’t mean I don’t care. Sure, victory may be sweeter if losses make you kick holes in the wall.
Living past 45 is something I’m shooting for.
by Craig Grebeck on Sep 25, 2008 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also, I'm kinda resigned to the fact...
That we may very well lose tonight. We’re asking a ton of Gavin.
No matter what, the sun will rise tomorrow. Except wherever the fuck SSH lives.
by Craig Grebeck on Sep 25, 2008 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
2 things,
1. In ’05, I would have been very, very, very,very pissed and hurt had we not made the playoffs. We were consistently in the top couple of teams in MLB. We were really, really good.
This year we are not that good, never (except for a few small streaks) have been. We should make the playoffs (statistically, it’s still true). If we’re not, it was a season that was better than myself and 90%+ ever expected.
2. A recent (and only in my lifetime) World Series win puts a lot of salve on perspective.
Que sera, sera.
Yeah, SSH2005, you are a sorry loser.
by ballyb on Sep 25, 2008 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
indeed.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Sep 25, 2008 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well said, speaks for me perfectly.
Though I’m surprised you remember ’05…
In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.
by Chiburb on Sep 25, 2008 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who dat?
"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT
by winningugly on Sep 25, 2008 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess that makes it official:
This sub thread is now a park bench!
OK, I’m outta here. Too much SSHit already.
In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.
by Chiburb on Sep 25, 2008 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't feed the pigeons!
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Sep 25, 2008 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Funny how people weren't saying this last week...
when the Sox had a decent lead and people still expected them to win the division.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Sep 25, 2008 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
funny how ssh2005 doesn't remember posts from even a week ago.
i lack the discipline to want it more.
by larry on Sep 25, 2008 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I do remember your posts about how the Sox lead was virtually unblowable...
and how you laughed at any poster who thought it was possible.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Sep 25, 2008 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the surface area of an average-sized brick is 79 cm squared.
i lack the discipline to want it more.
by larry on Sep 25, 2008 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL.
Describing SSH’s head?
"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT
by winningugly on Sep 25, 2008 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
reading comprehension = your strong suit
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
by colintj on Sep 25, 2008 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sure some of us were still thinking it.
There wasn’t as much need to say shit like this last week, now was there?
Context, dude. Situation has changed, dude. Adapt.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Sep 25, 2008 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The situation changed because the Sox are choking...
not because the Twins went on some ridiculous hot streak like the Indians or Royals. How would that make anyone content with the season? That’s the same defeatist attitude that our team apparently has.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Sep 25, 2008 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
isaac asimov is the only author to have a book in every dewey-decimal category.
i lack the discipline to want it more.
by larry on Sep 25, 2008 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
is that true
that’s kinda awesome
"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."
by U-God on Sep 25, 2008 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
how ironical that the most defeatist of all posters has identified the defeatist attitude as the difference maker.
"you threw it like a fucking hydrogen bomb."
by Toonderstrook on Sep 25, 2008 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't play for the Sox...
and therefore, I can’t impact their performance. However, the team’s own defeatist attitude can affect their own performance.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Sep 25, 2008 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
elephants are the only mammals that can't jump.
i lack the discipline to want it more.
by larry on Sep 25, 2008 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no, but i'm sure your rosy attitude about the sox mirrors your attitude in connection with the rest (if there is one) of your life.
"you threw it like a fucking hydrogen bomb."
by Toonderstrook on Sep 25, 2008 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Another personal attack...
that doesn’t even pertain to the subject at hand. Good one.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Sep 25, 2008 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Certainly you're above that sort of nonsense.
Chip, chip, chip, chip.
Sox Machine
by Sox Machine on Sep 25, 2008 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Listen, SSH,
whether the Sox win or lose tonight., your little boy is going to wake up tomorrow morning, catch sight of you and smile.
That’s what’s important.
Yeah, SSH2005, you are a sorry loser.
by ballyb on Sep 25, 2008 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I should be able to have both though.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Sep 25, 2008 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
then get out there and do something
you act like you have no control over the situation. geez
by Illini0509 on Sep 25, 2008 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Life's a bitch.
You only get one that assured.
Yeah, SSH2005, you are a sorry loser.
by ballyb on Sep 25, 2008 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm still waiting to figure out what the ranters get at season's end if the Sox blow it.
Surely they’ll get rewarded for it somehow.
Chip, chip, chip, chip.
Sox Machine
by Sox Machine on Sep 25, 2008 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
self-satisfaction at knowing they didn't waste their time over the first 156 games of the season like the rest of us losers.
"you threw it like a fucking hydrogen bomb."
by Toonderstrook on Sep 25, 2008 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If $3000 fall out of the sky right now an landed at my feet, I'd be happy
If that doesn’t happen, I’m not going to get pissed off about it.
by hitlesswonder on Sep 25, 2008 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
choker.
i lack the discipline to want it more.
by larry on Sep 25, 2008 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"for all those who thinks it's "very easy" or "very realistic" that the sox lose the division."
http://www.southsidesox.com/2008/9/21/619075/danks-blanks-royals-we-loo#8919359
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Sep 25, 2008 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
right. simply because an event occurs does not mean it was probable. i'll always stick with the probabilities over a lottery ticket mentality.
i lack the discipline to want it more.
by larry on Sep 25, 2008 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There's a reason people disagreed with you...
The chances that most teams win at least one game against most other teams on the road is very high but this is the Sox with their defeatist attitude and psyche playing at the Metrodome. Big difference and this series is proving it.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Sep 25, 2008 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
uh huh. the reason people disagreed with me is because they're idiots.
i lack the discipline to want it more.
by larry on Sep 25, 2008 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, you sure are showing them why now, huh?
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Sep 25, 2008 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it reminds me of the time when you proved winningugly wrong about matt murton.
"you threw it like a fucking hydrogen bomb."
by Toonderstrook on Sep 25, 2008 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Matt Murton might be able to get a clutch hit against the Twins...
cuz our guys sure can’t.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Sep 25, 2008 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am still licking my imagined wounds.
Matt Murton is a future HOF’er and a difference-maker in a barnburner of a pennant race.
"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT
by winningugly on Sep 25, 2008 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So is Dewayne Wise.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Sep 25, 2008 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the Neanderthal's brain was bigger than yours is.
i lack the discipline to want it more.
by larry on Sep 25, 2008 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah...
I wish I could be right 100% of the time like you, haha.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Sep 25, 2008 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you really don't read anything, do you?
i’ve never claimed to be right 100% of the time. i go with the probabilities. duh.
i lack the discipline to want it more.
by larry on Sep 25, 2008 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
blind squirrel gets an acorn sometimes.
if people want to bet on unlikely events occurring, go right ahead. simply because they win two times out of ten doesn’t make it any less idiotic.
i lack the discipline to want it more.
by larry on Sep 25, 2008 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Sox losing at the Twinkiedome...
is like a blind squirrel finding an acorn? I think not.
What was the Sox record at the Twinkiedome this season before this series started?
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Sep 25, 2008 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
don't forget the horseradish this time. it makes the meal.
"you threw it like a fucking hydrogen bomb."
by Toonderstrook on Sep 25, 2008 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it begins with a slow dance of turning leaves, and crescendos in a trillion trees aflame.
i lack the discipline to want it more.
by larry on Sep 25, 2008 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep,
I’ve been bearish on the market since 1984 and the past week was the 2nd week that I’ve been right.
Yeah, SSH2005, you are a sorry loser.
by ballyb on Sep 25, 2008 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
just keep doubling down.
i lack the discipline to want it more.
by larry on Sep 25, 2008 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Martingale!
Fun but not an optimal strategy….
by hitlesswonder on Sep 25, 2008 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I got B Stearns-like leverage already.
Yeah, SSH2005, you are a sorry loser.
by ballyb on Sep 25, 2008 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chances are much higher that a team with a 2.5 game lead...
doesn’t blow it with six games left to play than $3,000 dollars falling from the sky.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Sep 25, 2008 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
colin, check his math.
"you threw it like a fucking hydrogen bomb."
by Toonderstrook on Sep 25, 2008 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think we've been through this before
Statistically sweeps are unlikely — you shouldn’t expect them to happen in general, which is NOT THE SAME as saying a sweep will not happen.
Moreover, at this point with one game left to play, the statistical likelihood of a team sweeping a 3 game series has no impact on the chances of the Twins completing a sweep tonight (that’s like thinking that a bad run in a casino has to stop because long bad runs are unlikely — Gambler’s Fallacy).
The chances of the Twins completing a sweep tonight are the same as the chances of them winning this one game.
But I think you know all that, and for some reason just choose to twist people’s words because you are pissed the Sox are losing and you just want to point out that the Sox are as lousy of a team as you said they were. No one I know said that there was no way the Sox wouldn’t get swept. So stop pretending like that’s what anyone said.
by hitlesswonder on Sep 25, 2008 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no fresh artichokes? reach for frozen.
i lack the discipline to want it more.
by larry on Sep 25, 2008 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not that I'm amazing at probability
but yeah. Not exactly. The Twins, like they’ve been for every game so far, will be favored to win. 60% is the high end of that. Each game is more or less an independent event (barring a few carryover issues like injuries and bullpen usage).
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
by colintj on Sep 25, 2008 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's always brutal to watch those games were it feels like the sox are constantly on the verge of busting it open with a big inning and it just doesn't happen.
looking at the scoreboard and watching the opportunities dwindle.
You're on thin fucking ice my pedigree chums, and I shall be under it when it breaks. Now, fuck off.
by MarketMaker on Sep 25, 2008 1:47 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I wonder how Swisher would have fared in Wise's place in the same situations...
He has sucked this season but it still sucks to think about now.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Sep 25, 2008 2:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Buehrle called the Twins "shit-heads" instead of "piranhas"...
And some of you will love this quote by Ozzie…
“Defense and pitching, that’s the philosophy I believe in,” added Guillen of Gomez’s catch. “The Ozzie Guillen philosophy worked for somebody else tonight.”
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Sep 25, 2008 2:12 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Which is why Griffey was in CF.
"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT
by winningugly on Sep 25, 2008 8:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ozzie guillen should really find a team to manage that fits his philosophy.
i lack the discipline to want it more.
by larry on Sep 25, 2008 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ozzie can shut the hell up about defense
WU is right…you play Griffey in CF as much he is has, you shouldn’t mouth off about defense.
by hitlesswonder on Sep 25, 2008 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
GRIFFEY IN CENTER??!?!
must…not…choke a bitch
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
by colintj on Sep 25, 2008 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Quotes for the day...
“The great thing about baseball is that there’s a crisis every day.” ~Gabe Paul
"Give me a White Sox fan any day. There’s a team that has hosed its fans more completely than nearly any other, and that includes two terms under the best and most fan-friendly owner in history, Bill Veeck.
Do you hear them whining endlessly about how God wants them to suffer? Do they bore you with tales of Shoeless Joe Jackson, or Luke Appling, or Wild Bill Dietrich, and how each one has cursed them from beyond the grave? Do they go on and on about Arnold Rothstein and Charlie Comiskey and Chick Gandil and how they robbed their great grandfather of a two-day bender back in ’19?
Of course not. They say, "The Sox? They stink. Another beer over here, Hap.‘’ They don’t long-suffer, and if they do, they don’t do it loud enough for the rest of the neighborhood to hear. " — Ray Ratto
by hitlesswonder on Sep 25, 2008 9:57 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
awesome.
Proud to endure….
and still have my chin up.
(while my heart is breaking)
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Sep 25, 2008 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who the fuck
is Ray Ratto?
Yeah, SSH2005, you are a sorry loser.
by ballyb on Sep 25, 2008 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm not your friend, buddy
I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.
by thatshortkid on Sep 25, 2008 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was always fond of both
“If there is any justice in this world, to be a White Sox fan frees a man from any other form of penance.” Bill Veeck
and this Nike ad from right before the WS in 05
"There are two baseball teams in Chicago.
One is loved not just in Chicago, but nationally. A fan base as far and wide as this great country. Then you have this other team in the Southside. Whose fan base is just the Southside.
The Southside White Sox are not a popular team. You don’t see kids wearing their baseball caps in N.Y. and L.A. and London. They are blue collar. Nothing fancy. No frills. Just a bunch of small ballers and outcasts that found a hom eon the other side of town.
They are a team of their people and that’s the way they play- with all heart and more heart and just when you think they’ve given you all the heart they have, they give you a little more. That’s the Southside for you.
So when you’re watching this Series you’re not just watching a baseball team. You’re watching the collective soul of a few hundred-thousand people on one side of town.
World, meet the Southside White Sox"
"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."
by U-God on Sep 25, 2008 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here is what I believe
I believe that the White Sox have suspended hitting so they can devote their full attention to the looming crisis on Wall Street.
White Sox, that’s baseball.
by vince_ on Sep 25, 2008 9:59 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Here is what I believe.
Q’s injury should not have been terribly detrimental to this team.
Sure, he was our best hitter, but there was a time when our 1-9 batters (give or take a couple) could get the job done. We didn’t NEED Q, for all intents and purposes. When he was benched for forearm soreness, our offense continued to dominate.
However, the need for Q has become apparent. He has been gone since the first week of September, and we are all aware of what September has looked like.
Q’s absence has not only removed a big bat from our line-up, but it has sucked the soul out of the team.
Watching them play each night is like observing at a dead body in a coffin – you recognize the figures, but something definable is absent.
I cried a lot on September 5th (Black Friday) when Q’s wrist news broke. I even wrote a fanpost that night to ease my mind (and maybe others’).
I loved to believe that the team could carry on, and maybe that spark is still on the verge of being lit (runnnnning out of time here, fellas!)….my hope hangs on til the last fucking pitch….(not to say my purple blanket and kool-aid will not be pressed, mixed, and ready)….
But at the root of it all, Q took the team’s soul and all the magic with him.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Sep 25, 2008 10:38 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It's even more frustrating knowing that the guy injured himself and hurt the Sox playoff hopes...
But regardless of Quentin, they shouldn’t blow a 2.5 game lead with six left to play.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Sep 25, 2008 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Regardless of Q, they probably SHOULD HAVE had a bigger lead going into the last 6 games, if you must be that way, which I know you must.
c’est la vie.
quel dommage.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Sep 25, 2008 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't you blaspheme about Q in here
That bat was out to get him.
White Sox, that’s baseball.
by vince_ on Sep 25, 2008 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not, haven't since September 5th....not even losing it all at this point could make me cry again, I don't think. I am content and at peace with this season, no matter what.
Still hopeful…but maybe feeling more like we are undeserving if anything. Of late, we are undeserving. But overall, this has been, and should be our division to take.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Sep 25, 2008 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
sox aren't playing like they deserve to be in playoffs
are you one of those girls that cries a lot over stupid things?
by The Scoper on Sep 25, 2008 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no. I am not.
I get the feeling I have bigger cojones than several of the dudes around here, in fact.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Sep 25, 2008 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
some guys are in to that sort of thing ;)
by The Scoper on Sep 25, 2008 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
lucky for me! phew.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Sep 25, 2008 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ever been to the Baton Club?
Yeah, SSH2005, you are a sorry loser.
by ballyb on Sep 25, 2008 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I founded it.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Sep 25, 2008 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cheat, we need another one day timeout.
Yeah, SSH2005, you are a sorry loser.
by ballyb on Sep 25, 2008 11:04 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You are the one with the personal attack in your signature.
Hypocrisy?
You can put it on the board… Yes.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Sep 25, 2008 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rebut the post where the signature originated.
Yeah, SSH2005, you are a sorry loser.
by ballyb on Sep 25, 2008 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have no clue where that thead is at this point...
Regardless, the Sox are the ones who are choking. Be mad at them, not me.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Sep 25, 2008 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Most of us have mastered control of our emotions.
And don’t find it necessary to be mad at all, douchenozzle.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Sep 25, 2008 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You have mastered control of your emotions so well that you are crying about things?
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Sep 25, 2008 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol. you seriously cannot read. fucking hilarious.
i lack the discipline to want it more.
by larry on Sep 25, 2008 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
She said that she was crying about Quentin's injury...
Probably a joke but…
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Sep 25, 2008 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
whoosh.
the sound of yet another piece of plain english writing going right over SSH2005’s head.
i lack the discipline to want it more.
by larry on Sep 25, 2008 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not, haven’t since September 5th….not even losing it all at this point could make me cry again, I don’t think. I am content and at peace with this season, no matter what.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Sep 25, 2008 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
verb tenses are really fucking hard.
i know i hard trouble figuring them out in the second grade. but i managed.
i lack the discipline to want it more.
by larry on Sep 25, 2008 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I did cry. I got sad seeing our magical man get hurt in such a mortal manner; and all that meant for him and his MVP season, as well as the potential for what it meant for the team's season.
I have cried over trades in the past too. Ventura? Cried.
Certain things can make me cry. I am human. And a woman! Imagine that! Isn’t that all we do?
But seriously, you are the only person around here who allows his lack of emotional control dictate everything you say, the way you treat the site in general, and the way you perceive the sport, team, and the outcome on the whole.
I don’t think anyone needs to tell me to chill out, ever.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Sep 25, 2008 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
my sister cried about robin too
and when we traded black jack when i was 6, i cried.
then when i was 17 i got to meet him in joliet at a menards. it was awesome.
"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."
by U-God on Sep 25, 2008 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
sexism is a blast, amirite?
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
by colintj on Sep 25, 2008 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Matchup: White Sox (86-71) at Twins (86-72), 7:10 p.m. CT
Probable Starters: Gavin Floyd (194 2/3 IP, 4.67 RA, 1.24 WHIP, 133 K) vs. Kevin Slowey (156 2/3, 3.91, 1.14, 120)
Pythagorean Record: Chicago, 86-71 (777 RS, 696 RA); Minnesota, 87-71 (813 RS, 726 RA)
Hit List Rankings: Chicago, #7; Minnesota, #12
Prospectus: This is the one race left in the American League with some drama attached to it—as much as Rays fans may want the division title, calling their race to remain ahead of the Red Sox dramatic is overdoing it, seeing as they already have a seat in October reserved for them. This is also the final game between these two on the schedule, and with the White Sox losing the first two games of the series, they have seen their lead cut to just a half-game. Things won’t get any easier for the Sox this weekend, as they’ll face off against the Indians for a three-game set; during the first half, that was the stuff that cakewalks were made of, but with the Tribe posting a 38-26 record (and plus-36 run differential) since the All-Star break to get their record back to .500 just in time to try for a winning season, the White Sox may have their work cut out for them.
As far as tonight’s game goes though, the implications are huge for Minnesota’s own chances. Their playoff odds sit at 38.4 percent against the White Sox 61.6; with the wild card coming out of the AL East, it’s win or miss October for both of these clubs. If they were to lose tonight, giving the Pale Hose a 1½-game lead in the Central, their weekend against the Royals would become that much more difficult. After all, the Twins are one back in the loss column to the White Sox, and Chicago may have to play a makeup game against the Tigers that could factor into the division race; if the Twins were to lose tonight, that would make the White Sox’s job easier, while a Twin win would not only put Chicago behind, it would mean we would get a chance to see some Monday regular-season baseball with playoff implications. The teams have been evenly matched all year, with the White Sox winning eight and the Twins taking nine of the 17, with Minnesota winning the last three, and five of six during the second half of the season. Look no further than Chicago’s inability to sustain their first-half success against their rivals for the reason they are in this position tonight.
by Illini0509 on Sep 25, 2008 11:10 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Those playoff percentage odds have to be wrong, no?
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Sep 25, 2008 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
if you subscribe to this stellar analysis, sure.
Chances are much higher that a team with a 2.5 game lead…
doesn’t blow it with six games left to play than $3,000 dollars falling from the sky.
“god, you’re fucking stupid.”
— Larry
by SSH2005 on Sep 25, 2008 10:27 AM CDT
i lack the discipline to want it more.
by larry on Sep 25, 2008 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Obviously, it was a joke...
Just like the Sox performance at the Twinkiedome this season.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Sep 25, 2008 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, I suspect they are not.
Keep in mind, even if the Sox lose tonight, they still control their own destiny.
BP’s odds apparently do not take into account the fact that the Sox are weak, disturbed and do not care about winning while the Twins are mentally strong, stalwart and cutthroat competitors. Go figure.
by The Actual El Guapo on Sep 25, 2008 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wish there was no truth to that second part but at this point...
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Sep 25, 2008 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
In the immortal words of Jake Taylor: Well, I guess there's only one thing left to do.
Win the whole f-cking thing.
YEAH!
"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT
by winningugly on Sep 25, 2008 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
so jermaine just needs to say fuck you jobu and he'll start hitting again?
or should we sacrifice a chicken
"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."
by U-God on Sep 25, 2008 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He damn sure can't hit a curveball... just like Pedro Cerrano.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Sep 25, 2008 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
certainly not
same profession though
by Illini0509 on Sep 25, 2008 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
larry = twins2010
Yeah, SSH2005, you are a sorry loser.
by ballyb on Sep 25, 2008 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lineup released.
Sox to go with 7 infielders to combat the speedy Twins and all of their ego deflating infield singles.
Griffey to man the outfield solo.
Yeah, SSH2005, you are a sorry loser.
by ballyb on Sep 25, 2008 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
perfect! couldn't have planned it better myself.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Sep 25, 2008 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just actually visualizing this is very amusing (for those of us still able to make light of the season).....
Not only would a short-center be implemented….
But we should have an exclusive bunt-fielder….just hanging out on the grass, between the pitcher and the plate.
And an additional man (I’m thinking Thome since he’s not doing much else) who is there solely to beat the shit out of Punto whenever he is in the basepath.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Sep 25, 2008 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
"bunt-fielder"
in armor.
Yeah, SSH2005, you are a sorry loser.
by ballyb on Sep 25, 2008 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
why cant today be a day game
i need to know now if the sox are going to win or not
by The Scoper on Sep 25, 2008 11:25 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The Sox will score 10 runs against Slowey tonight and win easily.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Sep 25, 2008 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The outcomes of the first two games mean that tonight’s contest takes on a season’s worth of importance to the two squads. Right now, the Sox still have an edge on the Twins—they hold a 61.6 percent chance of winning the division, and the Twins are at 38.4 percent. That number doesn’t mean much, though, because we know that tonight one of the teams has to win, and the other lose.
If White Sox win: White Sox 86.4 percent, Twins 13.6 percent
If Twins win: Twins 62.6 percent, White Sox 37.4 percent
This may be the biggest game of the season in terms of playoff expectation; it’s certainly the biggest game left between contenders, short of a potential one-game playoff next week. If the White Sox win, they become about a 7-1 favorite to hang on and win the the division. If they lose, the Twins swing to about a 3-2 favorite; I suspect that’s even a bit low, as the system isn’t capturing that this Twins team is better than the “full-season” version that was leading off Carlos Gomez, playing Michael Cuddyer, and starting Livan Hernandez.
In any case, tonight’s game is must-see baseball. With Gavin Floyd facing off against Kevin Slowey, the pitching matchup is even, although the Sox could benefit from Slowey being a fly-ball pitcher, one who’s also a bit homer-prone. They also have a very fresh bullpen, with neither Matt Thornton nor Bobby Jenks having pitched since Sunday. Really, though, the game is a coin flip, and one with tens of millions of dollars on the line.
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=8119
i lack the discipline to want it more.
by larry on Sep 25, 2008 11:35 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I thought last night was the biggest game of the season?
That’s how I approached it.
Damn, now I have to get all mentally charged for this one too?
sheesh. This is demanding, this season.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Sep 25, 2008 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
go to nicks in pb. $5.50 large pitchers. six flat screens... watch the game and get wasted
thats what i used to do
by The Scoper on Sep 25, 2008 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
pb? where dat?
they broadcast Sox?
also, I prefer to get drunk at home, where I don’t have to drive anywhere.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Sep 25, 2008 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
pacific beach
nicks is a bar…they got the baseball package
good idea on not drinking and driving
by The Scoper on Sep 25, 2008 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's in Seattle? We have beaches here? :)
remember, I am not one of the many Cali homos around here….
(just kidding, Cali homos!)
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Sep 25, 2008 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
sorry, got you confused with someone else from sd
by The Scoper on Sep 25, 2008 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
thought so. Toonder and I look very much alike. He's quite effeminate.
;p
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Sep 25, 2008 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
but i'm not in san diego, dammit!
"you threw it like a fucking hydrogen bomb."
by Toonderstrook on Sep 25, 2008 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
:) i know.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Sep 25, 2008 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you're thinking of 'eastbaysd'
a recent development, SSS now has a small handful of regular/semi-regular female posters to break up the sausagefest.
the number of posters that regularly get sand in their vaginas, however, is staggeringly higher
I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.
by thatshortkid on Sep 25, 2008 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well really she just replaced
pierzynskirules, so we’re at 2 still.
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
by colintj on Sep 25, 2008 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
exactly
if you plan on panicking hold off until after this game, thats if the sox lose.
by Illini0509 on Sep 25, 2008 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wonder if the Seattle fans we've been making sport of on the Mariners' site
have been yukking it up reading ours over the past 12 hours.
BWAHAHAHA!
"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT
by winningugly on Sep 25, 2008 11:47 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Mariners fans I know too busy celebrating their 100 loss season.
White Sox, that’s baseball.
by vince_ on Sep 25, 2008 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We all have goals.
"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT
by winningugly on Sep 25, 2008 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Being in first place for most of the season and blowing it right at the end...
is probably just as frustrating.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Sep 25, 2008 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Go have a drink.
I suggest an Appleton Gold and Coke.
Yeah, SSH2005, you are a sorry loser.
by ballyb on Sep 25, 2008 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not going to bother to watch the game tonight...
I will check the score at some point and then check it again at the end of the game.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Sep 25, 2008 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
is that a promise of no posting?
"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."
by U-God on Sep 25, 2008 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If they win, I will be here after the game...
If they choke, I will be here after the game.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Sep 25, 2008 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
so your special brand of fandom
is the third constant behind death and taxes?
"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."
by U-God on Sep 25, 2008 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
either way, it'll be negative
Sox lose: copy and paste earlier discussion
Sox win: no excuse, division should have been put away a long time ago, blah blah, i’m never happy
by Illini0509 on Sep 25, 2008 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i can't wait til next year
when i’m old enough to go to the beer and chili festival
"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."
by U-God on Sep 25, 2008 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and note
he didn’t say “if they lose”, he said “if they choke”. so it’s either win or choke as the only 2 possibilities in ssh-land.
brian anderson would've caught that...
by BuehrleMan on Sep 25, 2008 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you honestly think the Sox win the division if they lose tonight?
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Sep 25, 2008 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
do you honestly think
that your reply to my comment has any relevance to my comment?
brian anderson would've caught that...
by BuehrleMan on Sep 25, 2008 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, it does...
If the Sox lose tonight, I don’t think they win the division. This is why I think if they lose tonight it will be a choke.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Sep 25, 2008 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i've said it before, and i'll say it again
you think strange things.
brian anderson would've caught that...
by BuehrleMan on Sep 25, 2008 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What is strange about it?
If the Sox lose tonight, the Twins will have a 0.5 game lead.
Meanwhile, they will be facing Davies, Meche, and Duckworth and the Sox will be facing Scott Lewis, Zach Jackson, and Cliff Lee. The Twins will have a big advantage, IMO.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Sep 25, 2008 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
what's strange about it is
A) you seem to think that if a team loses a game it must mean that they choked.
2) you also seem to be assuming what i think the sox chances of making the playoffs would be when i made absolutely no statement regarding that subject.
brian anderson would've caught that...
by BuehrleMan on Sep 25, 2008 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Getting swept in a situation when you only need one win is a choke...
Hate to break it to ya.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Sep 25, 2008 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i have no response to that
and, in fact, there is no possible response to that.
brian anderson would've caught that...
by BuehrleMan on Sep 25, 2008 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
doesn't the accuracy of this statement depend a bit on how you define a choke?
it seems that you define a choke as losing any critical game or series of games, regardless of how the games actually play out.
others might define a choke as failing to perform due to an inability to deal with pressure.
"you threw it like a fucking hydrogen bomb."
by Toonderstrook on Sep 25, 2008 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A win is a win, a loss is a loss...
It doesn’t matter how the game actually plays out — just fucking win one.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Sep 25, 2008 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This from the guy
Who bitched to high heaven about how the Sox won those Royals games.
I’m sure you’d take one of those wins now!
White Sox, that’s baseball.
by vince_ on Sep 25, 2008 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I bitched about the Sox offense...
only scoring a few runs off of mediocre to bad pitchers like Kyle Davies and Brandon Duckworth. I remember saying that if they can’t score many runs against these guys, how will they score any runs against better pitchers like the Twins’ staff?
Well, looks like I was right.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Sep 25, 2008 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
this is serious. why are these guys who haven't been chokers in their careers now choking?
and you can’t limit this strictly to the twins series because you’ve talked about it for weeks prior as well.
"you threw it like a fucking hydrogen bomb."
by Toonderstrook on Sep 25, 2008 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's a question that only the players can answer...
And while you are at it, ask our 3-4-5 why they have been 3 for 22 in this series.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Sep 25, 2008 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
do you think maybe it isn't choking under the pressure?
but they’re older and just not hitting well right now?
"you threw it like a fucking hydrogen bomb."
by Toonderstrook on Sep 25, 2008 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe there's apill for them?
Pitching and defense win baseball games in September and October.
by ballyb on Sep 25, 2008 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
a pill
Pitching and defense win baseball games in September and October.
by ballyb on Sep 25, 2008 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Go ask Alice.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Sep 25, 2008 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
when she's ten feet tall?
"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."
by U-God on Sep 25, 2008 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
or when she was just small.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Sep 25, 2008 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
if you bitch about enough things, you're bound to end up right sometime, squirrel.
i lack the discipline to want it more.
by larry on Sep 25, 2008 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Go back to months ago...
When you and Colin assured everyone that the Twins were not a threat to the Sox and would fall off eventually.
Sorry Larry, I know it must pain you deeply but you aren’t infallible.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Sep 25, 2008 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Predictions based on
the presence of a healthy Q.
The Twins did fall off. But so did the Q-less Sox.
White Sox, that’s baseball.
by vince_ on Sep 25, 2008 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nope...
I remember Larry even saying that the loss of Quentin wouldn’t be enough to make that big of a difference.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Sep 25, 2008 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well I never said such a thing about Q's loss
White Sox, that’s baseball.
by vince_ on Sep 25, 2008 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i still would consider the contreras injury the critical blow, as i said at the time.
i lack the discipline to want it more.
by larry on Sep 25, 2008 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i define choking as having an obstruction in the airway that leads to
good old u-god giving abdominal thrusts
"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."
by U-God on Sep 25, 2008 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it hasn't happened yet.
if it does, i’m sure i won’t lose any sleep.
i lack the discipline to want it more.
by larry on Sep 25, 2008 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You obviously just don't care about winning.
by The Actual El Guapo on Sep 25, 2008 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i lack the discipline.
i lack the discipline to want it more.
by larry on Sep 25, 2008 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
not chicago tough
World, meet the Southside White Sox.
by Illini0509 on Sep 25, 2008 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
if the twins lose tonight, under your definition, they will have choked, right?
"you threw it like a fucking hydrogen bomb."
by Toonderstrook on Sep 25, 2008 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There's a difference between being 2.5 games back...
and being 2.5 games ahead and only needing to win one game. I know it and you know it.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Sep 25, 2008 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no, i'm talking about tonight now.
the twins, at home, against a team on the ropes, a team psychologically battered, full of chokers, with a chance to take the division lead with kc rolling into town. wouldn’t that make them chokers if the lose tonight?
"you threw it like a fucking hydrogen bomb."
by Toonderstrook on Sep 25, 2008 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, after everyone repeatedly told me...
how tough it is to sweep a team after the Royals series, how can anyone expect the Twins to win tonight?
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Sep 25, 2008 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
just ignore him
he’s been given the answer numerous times
World, meet the Southside White Sox.
by Illini0509 on Sep 25, 2008 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think there's about a 30-40 percent chance that they do.
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
by colintj on Sep 25, 2008 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wrong...
If the Sox win tonight, it will be the biggest game of the entire season and I will be impressed that they didn’t choke.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Sep 25, 2008 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ok, so here's the deal
they win tonight, no negative comments from you all night.
"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."
by U-God on Sep 25, 2008 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed, I would splooge if the Sox win tonight.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Sep 25, 2008 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well i'm holding you to it then
a win= no negativity
"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."
by U-God on Sep 25, 2008 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hold me to it...
Cheers.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Sep 25, 2008 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
unrelated note...this too funny not to pass along
Police Allege Flatulence Battery
SOUTH CHARLESTON, West Virginia (AP) — A West Virginia man who police said passed gas and fanned it toward a patrol officer has been charged with battery on a police officer.
Jose A. Cruz, 34, of Clarksburg was pulled over early Tuesday for driving without headlights, police said. According to the criminal complaint, Cruz smelled of alcohol, had slurred speech and failed three field sobriety tests before he was handcuffed and taken to a police station for a Breathalyzer test.
As Patrolman T.E. Parsons prepared the machine, Cruz scooted his chair toward Parsons, lifted his leg and ‘passed gas loudly,’ the complaint said. Cruz, according to the complaint, then fanned the gas toward the officer.
‘The gas was very odorous and created contact of an insulting or provoking nature with Patrolman Parsons,’ the complaint alleged.
He was also charged with driving under the influence, driving without headlights and two counts of obstruction.
Cruz acknowledged passing gas but said he didn’t move his chair toward the officer nor aim gas at the patrolman. He said he had an upset stomach at the time, but police denied his request to go to the bathroom when he arrived at the station.
‘I couldn’t hold it no more,’ he said.
by The Scoper on Sep 25, 2008 11:48 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
This guy needs to be one of our buntfielders.
by The Actual El Guapo on Sep 25, 2008 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're mind is like
Firesign Theater.
Yeah, SSH2005, you are a sorry loser.
by ballyb on Sep 25, 2008 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Merge left.
Yeah, SSH2005, you are a sorry loser.
by ballyb on Sep 25, 2008 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can we have like a Citizen's Timeout?
Cheat has not acted and we need to pull a Barney Fife w/ the 1 day timeout.
Yeah, SSH2005, you are a sorry loser.
by ballyb on Sep 25, 2008 12:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Why?
Because you are depressed with the Sox and want to take it out on me?
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Sep 25, 2008 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Best day I've had in awhile.
Accepted my powerlessness.
Looking forward to the Winter Classic. You a Hawks fan?
Yeah, SSH2005, you are a sorry loser.
by ballyb on Sep 25, 2008 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
weren't they initially going to play it
in Soldier Field? I’d be more inclined to go had they kept it there.
by Illini0509 on Sep 25, 2008 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Never.
Yeah, SSH2005, you are a sorry loser.
by ballyb on Sep 25, 2008 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah sorry, was only speculation
http://ballhype.com/story/blackhawks_may_lace_up_at_soldier_field_chicago_sun/
World, meet the Southside White Sox.
by Illini0509 on Sep 25, 2008 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's been my attitude
If the Sox don’t make it to the playoffs, then I’ve got some Blackhawks home games to watch.
White Sox, that’s baseball.
by vince_ on Sep 25, 2008 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why keep asking for the timeout or a ban?
how about just ignoring him? There’s a reason he got banned at two separate places and is one of the few (only?) who Cheat has banned for a day. Just fucking ignore the guy and let him piss all he wants into the wind or respond to him with non-topical jargon like larry did above. Cripes, this day-to-day shit is getting obnoxious. There’s no rhyme, reason or logic to his ways, and responding to him is like continually pounding your head into a brick wall.
by CWSKeith on Sep 25, 2008 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Point well taken.
I very seldom do respond, but the insanity the last 2 days has been taken to new heights.
Pitching and defense win baseball games in September and October.
by ballyb on Sep 25, 2008 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
From the AP wires
Cliff Lee to pitch all 3 games of the weekend series.
;( ;( ;(
Yeah, SSH2005, you are a sorry loser.
by ballyb on Sep 25, 2008 12:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
what happens on here during the offseason
this being my rookie year, i was just kinda wondering
"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."
by U-God on Sep 25, 2008 12:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Overreacting
Except it’s to speculation, not actual events.
Chip, chip, chip, chip.
Sox Machine
by Sox Machine on Sep 25, 2008 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
k
"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."
by U-God on Sep 25, 2008 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Andruw Jones happens here in the offseason.
by Grinder in Training on Sep 25, 2008 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's a good thing Kenny did much better and got Swisher...
He has been a stud this year. He rallies the team by sitting on the bench and high-fiving his own cardboard cutout when he’s not in games taking backwards K’s or missing curveballs or changeups by two feet.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Sep 25, 2008 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
sucks that swisher
is signed to a reasonable contract for the foreseeable future. he clearly will not play any better next season.
World, meet the Southside White Sox.
by Illini0509 on Sep 25, 2008 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I will believe it when I see it...
So far, it looks like Beane knew when to dump him.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Sep 25, 2008 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
something about BABIP/LD rates/actually doing research before posting mindless bullshit
by Craig Grebeck on Sep 25, 2008 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
right
this has been discussed all season
World, meet the Southside White Sox.
by Illini0509 on Sep 25, 2008 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry, that may have flown earlier in the season but not lately.
Swisher was legitimately sucking before he got benched.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Sep 25, 2008 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So it flew earlier in the season...
And we’re talking about his performance throughout this season. Relevant, no?
He did suck in September, as streaky hitters so often do.
by Craig Grebeck on Sep 25, 2008 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right, career over
How old is Swish? thirty – eigh… twenty eight. what makes you think he’s going to completely fall apart as a player when he is in his prime years?
World, meet the Southside White Sox.
by Illini0509 on Sep 25, 2008 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think his career is over...
I just don’t think that Kenny got what he expected. He got an .800 OPS corner outfielder / first baseman.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Sep 25, 2008 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wrong?
Swisher is not a CF’er just because the Sox throw him out there. He can play LF, RF, and 1B, which is his best position. And his career line is .244 / .355 / .452 / .807.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Sep 25, 2008 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am of course SHOCKED that you resorted to career numbers. Don't look at OPS+, too confusing. Don't bother looking at his progression as a hitter, or the fact that he's been unlucky this year. Keep rolling with the punches, Rosenbloom.
by Craig Grebeck on Sep 25, 2008 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
His progression must have ended this year, haha.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Sep 25, 2008 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha, ssh again fails at reading.
words are tough.
i lack the discipline to want it more.
by larry on Sep 25, 2008 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Go bash some more posters who saw this series coming...
while you laughed it off.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Sep 25, 2008 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm still laughing at them.
blind squirrels are funny.
i lack the discipline to want it more.
by larry on Sep 25, 2008 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, the Sox sucking at the Metrodome...
is exactly like a blind squirrel finding a nut.
The Sox record there sure indicates that.
Give me a break.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Sep 25, 2008 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
they find acorns.
i know stats don’t mean anything to you. that’s why you, like those blind squirrels, make so many dumb assertions on here.
i lack the discipline to want it more.
by larry on Sep 25, 2008 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So even if you are proven wrong tonight...
they are the dumb ones?
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Sep 25, 2008 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you. just. don't. get. it.
World, meet the Southside White Sox.
by Illini0509 on Sep 25, 2008 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"proven wrong"
i go with the probabilities. i never said the probability was zero. i said it would take some ridiculous (i.e., unlikely) string of events to occur.
i lack the discipline to want it more.
by larry on Sep 25, 2008 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And my point is...
that the Sox getting swept in the Twinkiedome would not require some ridiculous and unlikely string of events to occur.
Well, in your opinion, what are these ridiculous and unlikely events that have happened thus far?
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Sep 25, 2008 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
BP playoff odds for the Sox
before Twins series = ~90%, hence unlikely
World, meet the Southside White Sox.
by Illini0509 on Sep 25, 2008 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i don't recall talking about the sweep scenario alone.
i recall talking about the likelihood of the sox losing the division.
i lack the discipline to want it more.
by larry on Sep 25, 2008 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The acorn is neither a pea nor a nut.
Wait … what?
by The Actual El Guapo on Sep 25, 2008 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Pope shits in the woods.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Sep 25, 2008 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no chance of an increase in those numbers
due to playing half his games in the Cell as opposed to Coliseum/McAfee/Cisco/whatever they’re calling it…
World, meet the Southside White Sox.
by Illini0509 on Sep 25, 2008 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So far, he has failed in a much better offensive ballpark.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Sep 25, 2008 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
right
since one season is enough to gauge the projection of his career
World, meet the Southside White Sox.
by Illini0509 on Sep 25, 2008 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
if he got an .800 OPS corner outfielder / first baseman
what was he expecting?
i lack the discipline to want it more.
by larry on Sep 25, 2008 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
An .850 - .875 OPS player.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Sep 25, 2008 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
why is one of the most fundamental discoveries
in baseball (the importance of BABIP) not part of your analysis?
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
by colintj on Sep 25, 2008 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He has sucked for most of the season...
No one is that unlucky.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Sep 25, 2008 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yawn. disproved. do some research.
i lack the discipline to want it more.
by larry on Sep 25, 2008 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
fav post of the day
World, meet the Southside White Sox.
by Illini0509 on Sep 25, 2008 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
pfft. pedestrian analysis of the day's posts
I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.
by thatshortkid on Sep 25, 2008 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm into the whole brevity thing
World, meet the Southside White Sox.
by Illini0509 on Sep 25, 2008 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's hsa's m.o.
"you threw it like a fucking hydrogen bomb."
by Toonderstrook on Sep 25, 2008 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
colin's too
brndnprkns: I'm pretty sure the "badass" value of your life is closer to Gigli than The Dark Knight
by whitesoxmatt on Sep 25, 2008 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes. no baseball player has had an outlier season.
"you threw it like a fucking hydrogen bomb."
by Toonderstrook on Sep 25, 2008 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
why don't you have any curiosity about whether these things you assert to be true
actually are? research has actually been done on this shit.
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
by colintj on Sep 25, 2008 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'd understand this more if he were a philosopher or something, not a computer guy.
"you threw it like a fucking hydrogen bomb."
by Toonderstrook on Sep 25, 2008 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
all the computer nerds i know
have a myriad of different interests and pursue them fairly intellectually. but they’re all michigan undergrads for the most part, so that’s probably part of it.
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
by colintj on Sep 25, 2008 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i resemble that remark!
I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.
by thatshortkid on Sep 25, 2008 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So what is Swisher's adjusted line this season...
had he not been “unlucky”?
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Sep 25, 2008 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's tough to do that exactly
but there’s a predicted OPS stat that I think THT does (prOPS for short) that had him in the .850 – .875 range. you have to remember that he had a ton of line drives go for outs. when those get caught in the OF, that often means losing out on extra bases. in fact, according to Dan Fox’s blog (pretty sure I posted this a while back, but I can probably find it if you’re interested) but line drives fall for base hits about 75% of the time and SLG is something like .750 for them. In order to derive the number, he gathered up three years of batted ball data (all that was available at the time) and looked at the results. so assuming this sample (and we’re talking nearly every batted ball over a 3 year span, so a huge sample) is useful in describing what you should expect from batted ball types, we should be able to get a lot out of that data.
the thing that hasn’t been done is investigate “subtypes” so to speak of the basic batted ball categories (GB/FB/LD/PU). Obviously velocity and angle play a big part of this and it’s the sort of data that, right now, is being mined in assessing fielding. if you looked at bases per batted ball versus velocity and angle, you could get a very precise expectation. we’re not there yet, but what we have is pretty robust.
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
by colintj on Sep 25, 2008 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
a guy with a 21% line drive rate should not have anywhere near to a .250 babip.
he should be at .850. easy.
i lack the discipline to want it more.
by larry on Sep 25, 2008 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the strikouts, larry!!! the strikeouts!!!
oh, those aren’t factored into babip?
well, he still sucks anyways cause my eyes tell me so
brndnprkns: I'm pretty sure the "badass" value of your life is closer to Gigli than The Dark Knight
by whitesoxmatt on Sep 25, 2008 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I am so happy with his performance this year...
He has been so great he is collecting splinters in his ass on the bench.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Sep 25, 2008 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
there's nothing wrong with his k rate.
i lack the discipline to want it more.
by larry on Sep 25, 2008 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
trying to be over the top sarcastic, guess i failed
in all honesty though, what would be an “acceptable” range for a k rate? 22% would seem high to me.
brndnprkns: I'm pretty sure the "badass" value of your life is closer to Gigli than The Dark Knight
by whitesoxmatt on Sep 25, 2008 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
depends upon the hitter, really.
thome’s always been around 30% and he’s quite valuable. this is obvious, but for the squirrels, guys who get on base a lot and hit for power can have higher k rates. swisher has always been around 25% or so.
it’s pretty much the hits that haven’t been falling in. and with a line drive rate that i think is the highest in his career, something is seriously not computing.
i lack the discipline to want it more.
by larry on Sep 25, 2008 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Twinkie magic dust
The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.
by Tdogg on Sep 25, 2008 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
career K rate: 25.5%
this year: 25%
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
by colintj on Sep 25, 2008 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
correction: 27%
and in the last 3 years (when his walk rate become truly elite), he’s averaged 26.2%. so he’s right in line with his norms.
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
by colintj on Sep 25, 2008 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Where's Chicago Pete to discuss how Thome's
BB/K rates are falling off a cliff?
Oh, they’re not? Really…
"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT
by winningugly on Sep 25, 2008 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How is that different than during the season season?
White Sox, that’s baseball.
by vince_ on Sep 25, 2008 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This offseason will be different.
Q!, Q!, all Q!.
Yeah, SSH2005, you are a sorry loser.
by ballyb on Sep 25, 2008 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dodgers looking for Dye...
Coletti wanted him 2 years ago. After Rent-a-Manny is over who knows?…
by RoyEgan on Sep 25, 2008 12:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
what could we be looking at as a possible return?
I’m sure Kershaw is out of the question, right?
World, meet the Southside White Sox.
by Illini0509 on Sep 25, 2008 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hahahahahaaa.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Sep 25, 2008 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't understand the hilarity
we cannot get Kershaw for Dye, I don’t see them giving up Kemp, Ethier, etc when they come much cheaper than Dye, so I was asking what our return would be
World, meet the Southside White Sox.
by Illini0509 on Sep 25, 2008 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Look at the Dodgers' roster...
http://losangeles.dodgers.mlb.com/team/roster_active.jsp?c_id=la
Why would they trade for an outfielder? They already have two outfielders that I would rather have than Dye and a couple others under contract for 2009.
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