Ozzie Guillen Speaks the Truth
Nick Blackburn did not pitch well on Wednesday night. But White Sox' hitters were unable to make him pay for what could have been his third straight shellacking. Ozzie is tired of it, and he's not going to go out of his way to praise a pitcher who is made to look good by the dormant Sox offense.
"I don't give credit to the guys that don't deserve credit,'' Guillen said of Blackburn. "Believe me, I give credit to the pitcher when they deserve it. We didn't get the clutch hit, it wasn't because of the way he pitched.''
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Yep, Blackburn threw junk over the plate and hung a lot of pitches...
I’m glad Ozzie is saying this, not that it will do any good.
But I’m sure the offense will do better against Slowey tomorrow. Afterall, sweeps are like the hardest thing in baseball to do. It’s even hard to sweep a bad team like the Royals.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Sep 25, 2008 1:30 AM CDT 0 recs
correct me if i'm wrong...
did you not say last week that 2/3 against the royals would be a success? so…why are you still on this?
by Craig Grebeck on
Sep 25, 2008 9:31 AM CDT
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Royals have won 11 of 13,
runs -— 85 – 35.
Yep, It’s even hard to sweep a bad team like the Royals.
Yeah, SSH2005, you are a sorry loser.
by ballyb on
Sep 25, 2008 9:44 AM CDT
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I was told that it's hard to sweep any team...
Meaning the Sox should not get swept tonight.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on
Sep 25, 2008 9:50 AM CDT
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well...
looking at percentages, which i’m sure you so often don’t , i’d say the vast majority of series in mlb do not end in sweeps. is that tough to understand?
by Craig Grebeck on
Sep 25, 2008 9:57 AM CDT
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Fine, and I was told that by many of you guys...
which is why we shouldn’t be worried about tonight.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on
Sep 25, 2008 9:59 AM CDT
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I don't worry about baseball...
I’m in college. I have concerns beyond 25 men tossing a ball around a dome. I enjoy it, I watch it, I root for the Sox and I spend a whole hell of a lot of time reading about it, but I’m not going to sit around and fret all day. If we win tonight, great. If we lose, shit. Life goes on.
by Craig Grebeck on
Sep 25, 2008 10:03 AM CDT
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Of course life goes on
but if you get pissed when your team loses, victory is so much sweeter. Not caring about losing is a Cubs fan mentality. The Sox aren’t going to ruin your life, but you should still care for the games as a true fan.
www.stallingtheman.blogspot.com
by Raf on
Sep 25, 2008 10:19 AM CDT
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I care about the games...
I am not going to throw myself into a tizzy because we lost. It doesn’t mean I don’t care. Sure, victory may be sweeter if losses make you kick holes in the wall.
Living past 45 is something I’m shooting for.
by Craig Grebeck on
Sep 25, 2008 10:22 AM CDT
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Also, I'm kinda resigned to the fact...
That we may very well lose tonight. We’re asking a ton of Gavin.
No matter what, the sun will rise tomorrow. Except wherever the fuck SSH lives.
by Craig Grebeck on
Sep 25, 2008 10:27 AM CDT
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2 things,
1. In ’05, I would have been very, very, very,very pissed and hurt had we not made the playoffs. We were consistently in the top couple of teams in MLB. We were really, really good.
This year we are not that good, never (except for a few small streaks) have been. We should make the playoffs (statistically, it’s still true). If we’re not, it was a season that was better than myself and 90%+ ever expected.
2. A recent (and only in my lifetime) World Series win puts a lot of salve on perspective.
Que sera, sera.
Yeah, SSH2005, you are a sorry loser.
by ballyb on
Sep 25, 2008 10:39 AM CDT
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indeed.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on
Sep 25, 2008 10:39 AM CDT
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Well said, speaks for me perfectly.
Though I’m surprised you remember ’05…
In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.
by Chiburb on
Sep 25, 2008 10:44 AM CDT
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Who dat?
"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT
by winningugly on
Sep 25, 2008 10:53 AM CDT
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I guess that makes it official:
This sub thread is now a park bench!
OK, I’m outta here. Too much SSHit already.
In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.
by Chiburb on
Sep 25, 2008 10:57 AM CDT
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Don't feed the pigeons!
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on
Sep 25, 2008 10:59 AM CDT
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Touche.
Welcome back, CP. I missed you.
Yeah, SSH2005, you are a sorry loser.
by ballyb on
Sep 25, 2008 11:03 AM CDT
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Funny how people weren't saying this last week...
when the Sox had a decent lead and people still expected them to win the division.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on
Sep 25, 2008 10:45 AM CDT
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funny how ssh2005 doesn't remember posts from even a week ago.
i lack the discipline to want it more.
by larry on
Sep 25, 2008 10:46 AM CDT
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I do remember your posts about how the Sox lead was virtually unblowable...
and how you laughed at any poster who thought it was possible.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on
Sep 25, 2008 10:50 AM CDT
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the surface area of an average-sized brick is 79 cm squared.
i lack the discipline to want it more.
by larry on
Sep 25, 2008 10:52 AM CDT
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LOL.
Describing SSH’s head?
"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT
by winningugly on
Sep 25, 2008 10:53 AM CDT
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reading comprehension = your strong suit
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
by colintj on
Sep 25, 2008 2:51 PM CDT
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I'm sure some of us were still thinking it.
There wasn’t as much need to say shit like this last week, now was there?
Context, dude. Situation has changed, dude. Adapt.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on
Sep 25, 2008 10:54 AM CDT
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The situation changed because the Sox are choking...
not because the Twins went on some ridiculous hot streak like the Indians or Royals. How would that make anyone content with the season? That’s the same defeatist attitude that our team apparently has.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on
Sep 25, 2008 10:57 AM CDT
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isaac asimov is the only author to have a book in every dewey-decimal category.
i lack the discipline to want it more.
by larry on
Sep 25, 2008 10:58 AM CDT
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is that true
that’s kinda awesome
"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."
by U-God on
Sep 25, 2008 12:07 PM CDT
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how ironical that the most defeatist of all posters has identified the defeatist attitude as the difference maker.
"you threw it like a fucking hydrogen bomb."
by Toonderstrook on
Sep 25, 2008 11:01 AM CDT
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I don't play for the Sox...
and therefore, I can’t impact their performance. However, the team’s own defeatist attitude can affect their own performance.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on
Sep 25, 2008 11:04 AM CDT
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elephants are the only mammals that can't jump.
i lack the discipline to want it more.
by larry on
Sep 25, 2008 11:07 AM CDT
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no, but i'm sure your rosy attitude about the sox mirrors your attitude in connection with the rest (if there is one) of your life.
"you threw it like a fucking hydrogen bomb."
by Toonderstrook on
Sep 25, 2008 11:08 AM CDT
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Another personal attack...
that doesn’t even pertain to the subject at hand. Good one.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on
Sep 25, 2008 11:10 AM CDT
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Certainly you're above that sort of nonsense.
Chip, chip, chip, chip.
Sox Machine
by Sox Machine on
Sep 25, 2008 11:10 AM CDT
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Listen, SSH,
whether the Sox win or lose tonight., your little boy is going to wake up tomorrow morning, catch sight of you and smile.
That’s what’s important.
Yeah, SSH2005, you are a sorry loser.
by ballyb on
Sep 25, 2008 11:13 AM CDT
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cry
In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.
by Chiburb on
Sep 25, 2008 11:17 AM CDT
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I should be able to have both though.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on
Sep 25, 2008 11:23 AM CDT
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then get out there and do something
you act like you have no control over the situation. geez
by Illini0509 on
Sep 25, 2008 11:24 AM CDT
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Life's a bitch.
You only get one that assured.
Yeah, SSH2005, you are a sorry loser.
by ballyb on
Sep 25, 2008 11:29 AM CDT
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I'm still waiting to figure out what the ranters get at season's end if the Sox blow it.
Surely they’ll get rewarded for it somehow.
Chip, chip, chip, chip.
Sox Machine
by Sox Machine on
Sep 25, 2008 11:00 AM CDT
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self-satisfaction at knowing they didn't waste their time over the first 156 games of the season like the rest of us losers.
"you threw it like a fucking hydrogen bomb."
by Toonderstrook on
Sep 25, 2008 11:02 AM CDT
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If $3000 fall out of the sky right now an landed at my feet, I'd be happy
If that doesn’t happen, I’m not going to get pissed off about it.
by hitlesswonder on
Sep 25, 2008 10:25 AM CDT
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"for all those who thinks it's "very easy" or "very realistic" that the sox lose the division."
http://www.southsidesox.com/2008/9/21/619075/danks-blanks-royals-we-loo#8919359
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on
Sep 25, 2008 10:29 AM CDT
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right. simply because an event occurs does not mean it was probable. i'll always stick with the probabilities over a lottery ticket mentality.
i lack the discipline to want it more.
by larry on
Sep 25, 2008 10:33 AM CDT
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There's a reason people disagreed with you...
The chances that most teams win at least one game against most other teams on the road is very high but this is the Sox with their defeatist attitude and psyche playing at the Metrodome. Big difference and this series is proving it.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on
Sep 25, 2008 10:36 AM CDT
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uh huh. the reason people disagreed with me is because they're idiots.
i lack the discipline to want it more.
by larry on
Sep 25, 2008 10:38 AM CDT
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Yeah, you sure are showing them why now, huh?
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on
Sep 25, 2008 10:40 AM CDT
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it reminds me of the time when you proved winningugly wrong about matt murton.
"you threw it like a fucking hydrogen bomb."
by Toonderstrook on
Sep 25, 2008 10:41 AM CDT
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Matt Murton might be able to get a clutch hit against the Twins...
cuz our guys sure can’t.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on
Sep 25, 2008 10:43 AM CDT
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I am still licking my imagined wounds.
Matt Murton is a future HOF’er and a difference-maker in a barnburner of a pennant race.
"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT
by winningugly on
Sep 25, 2008 10:56 AM CDT
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So is Dewayne Wise.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on
Sep 25, 2008 10:58 AM CDT
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the Neanderthal's brain was bigger than yours is.
i lack the discipline to want it more.
by larry on
Sep 25, 2008 10:59 AM CDT
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Yeah...
I wish I could be right 100% of the time like you, haha.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on
Sep 25, 2008 11:03 AM CDT
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you really don't read anything, do you?
i’ve never claimed to be right 100% of the time. i go with the probabilities. duh.
i lack the discipline to want it more.
by larry on
Sep 25, 2008 11:06 AM CDT
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blind squirrel gets an acorn sometimes.
if people want to bet on unlikely events occurring, go right ahead. simply because they win two times out of ten doesn’t make it any less idiotic.
i lack the discipline to want it more.
by larry on
Sep 25, 2008 10:44 AM CDT
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The Sox losing at the Twinkiedome...
is like a blind squirrel finding an acorn? I think not.
What was the Sox record at the Twinkiedome this season before this series started?
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on
Sep 25, 2008 10:47 AM CDT
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don't forget the horseradish this time. it makes the meal.
"you threw it like a fucking hydrogen bomb."
by Toonderstrook on
Sep 25, 2008 10:48 AM CDT
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it begins with a slow dance of turning leaves, and crescendos in a trillion trees aflame.
i lack the discipline to want it more.
by larry on
Sep 25, 2008 10:49 AM CDT
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0-0
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
by colintj on
Sep 25, 2008 2:53 PM CDT
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sigh.
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
by colintj on
Sep 25, 2008 3:36 PM CDT
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Yep,
I’ve been bearish on the market since 1984 and the past week was the 2nd week that I’ve been right.
Yeah, SSH2005, you are a sorry loser.
by ballyb on
Sep 25, 2008 11:07 AM CDT
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just keep doubling down.
i lack the discipline to want it more.
by larry on
Sep 25, 2008 11:08 AM CDT
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Martingale!
Fun but not an optimal strategy….
by hitlesswonder on
Sep 25, 2008 11:18 AM CDT
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I got B Stearns-like leverage already.
Yeah, SSH2005, you are a sorry loser.
by ballyb on
Sep 25, 2008 11:22 AM CDT
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Chances are much higher that a team with a 2.5 game lead...
doesn’t blow it with six games left to play than $3,000 dollars falling from the sky.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on
Sep 25, 2008 10:27 AM CDT
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colin, check his math.
"you threw it like a fucking hydrogen bomb."
by Toonderstrook on
Sep 25, 2008 10:33 AM CDT
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I think we've been through this before
Statistically sweeps are unlikely — you shouldn’t expect them to happen in general, which is NOT THE SAME as saying a sweep will not happen.
Moreover, at this point with one game left to play, the statistical likelihood of a team sweeping a 3 game series has no impact on the chances of the Twins completing a sweep tonight (that’s like thinking that a bad run in a casino has to stop because long bad runs are unlikely — Gambler’s Fallacy).
The chances of the Twins completing a sweep tonight are the same as the chances of them winning this one game.
But I think you know all that, and for some reason just choose to twist people’s words because you are pissed the Sox are losing and you just want to point out that the Sox are as lousy of a team as you said they were. No one I know said that there was no way the Sox wouldn’t get swept. So stop pretending like that’s what anyone said.
by hitlesswonder on
Sep 25, 2008 10:08 AM CDT
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no fresh artichokes? reach for frozen.
i lack the discipline to want it more.
by larry on
Sep 25, 2008 10:09 AM CDT
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Not that I'm amazing at probability
but yeah. Not exactly. The Twins, like they’ve been for every game so far, will be favored to win. 60% is the high end of that. Each game is more or less an independent event (barring a few carryover issues like injuries and bullpen usage).
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
by colintj on
Sep 25, 2008 2:49 PM CDT
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it's always brutal to watch those games were it feels like the sox are constantly on the verge of busting it open with a big inning and it just doesn't happen.
looking at the scoreboard and watching the opportunities dwindle.
You're on thin fucking ice my pedigree chums, and I shall be under it when it breaks. Now, fuck off.
by MarketMaker on Sep 25, 2008 1:47 AM CDT 0 recs
I wonder how Swisher would have fared in Wise's place in the same situations...
He has sucked this season but it still sucks to think about now.
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on
Sep 25, 2008 2:05 AM CDT
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Buehrle called the Twins "shit-heads" instead of "piranhas"...
And some of you will love this quote by Ozzie…
“Defense and pitching, that’s the philosophy I believe in,” added Guillen of Gomez’s catch. “The Ozzie Guillen philosophy worked for somebody else tonight.”
"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry
by SSH2005 on Sep 25, 2008 2:12 AM CDT 0 recs
Which is why Griffey was in CF.
"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT
by winningugly on
Sep 25, 2008 8:07 AM CDT
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ozzie guillen should really find a team to manage that fits his philosophy.
i lack the discipline to want it more.
by larry on
Sep 25, 2008 9:11 AM CDT
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