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Ozzie Guillen Speaks the Truth

Nick Blackburn did not pitch well on Wednesday night. But White Sox' hitters were unable to make him pay for what could have been his third straight shellacking. Ozzie is tired of it, and he's not going to go out of his way to praise a pitcher who is made to look good by the dormant Sox offense.

"I don't give credit to the guys that don't deserve credit,'' Guillen said of Blackburn. "Believe me, I give credit to the pitcher when they deserve it. We didn't get the clutch hit, it wasn't because of the way he pitched.''

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Yep, Blackburn threw junk over the plate and hung a lot of pitches...

I’m glad Ozzie is saying this, not that it will do any good.

But I’m sure the offense will do better against Slowey tomorrow. Afterall, sweeps are like the hardest thing in baseball to do. It’s even hard to sweep a bad team like the Royals.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Sep 25, 2008 1:30 AM CDT   0 recs

correct me if i'm wrong...

did you not say last week that 2/3 against the royals would be a success? so…why are you still on this?

by Craig Grebeck on Sep 25, 2008 9:31 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Royals have won 11 of 13,

runs -— 85 – 35.

Yep, It’s even hard to sweep a bad team like the Royals.

Yeah, SSH2005, you are a sorry loser.

by ballyb on Sep 25, 2008 9:44 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I was told that it's hard to sweep any team...

Meaning the Sox should not get swept tonight.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Sep 25, 2008 9:50 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

well...

looking at percentages, which i’m sure you so often don’t , i’d say the vast majority of series in mlb do not end in sweeps. is that tough to understand?

by Craig Grebeck on Sep 25, 2008 9:57 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Fine, and I was told that by many of you guys...

which is why we shouldn’t be worried about tonight.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Sep 25, 2008 9:59 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I don't worry about baseball...

I’m in college. I have concerns beyond 25 men tossing a ball around a dome. I enjoy it, I watch it, I root for the Sox and I spend a whole hell of a lot of time reading about it, but I’m not going to sit around and fret all day. If we win tonight, great. If we lose, shit. Life goes on.

by Craig Grebeck on Sep 25, 2008 10:03 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Of course life goes on

but if you get pissed when your team loses, victory is so much sweeter. Not caring about losing is a Cubs fan mentality. The Sox aren’t going to ruin your life, but you should still care for the games as a true fan.

www.stallingtheman.blogspot.com

by Raf on Sep 25, 2008 10:19 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I care about the games...

I am not going to throw myself into a tizzy because we lost. It doesn’t mean I don’t care. Sure, victory may be sweeter if losses make you kick holes in the wall.

Living past 45 is something I’m shooting for.

by Craig Grebeck on Sep 25, 2008 10:22 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Also, I'm kinda resigned to the fact...

That we may very well lose tonight. We’re asking a ton of Gavin.

No matter what, the sun will rise tomorrow. Except wherever the fuck SSH lives.

by Craig Grebeck on Sep 25, 2008 10:27 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

2 things,

1. In ’05, I would have been very, very, very,very pissed and hurt had we not made the playoffs. We were consistently in the top couple of teams in MLB. We were really, really good.

This year we are not that good, never (except for a few small streaks) have been. We should make the playoffs (statistically, it’s still true). If we’re not, it was a season that was better than myself and 90%+ ever expected.

2. A recent (and only in my lifetime) World Series win puts a lot of salve on perspective.

Que sera, sera.

Yeah, SSH2005, you are a sorry loser.

by ballyb on Sep 25, 2008 10:39 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

indeed.

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Sep 25, 2008 10:39 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Well said, speaks for me perfectly.

Though I’m surprised you remember ’05…

In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.

by Chiburb on Sep 25, 2008 10:44 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Who dat?

"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Sep 25, 2008 10:53 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I guess that makes it official:

This sub thread is now a park bench!

OK, I’m outta here. Too much SSHit already.

In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.

by Chiburb on Sep 25, 2008 10:57 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Don't feed the pigeons!

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Sep 25, 2008 10:59 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Touche.

Welcome back, CP. I missed you.

Yeah, SSH2005, you are a sorry loser.

by ballyb on Sep 25, 2008 11:03 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Funny how people weren't saying this last week...

when the Sox had a decent lead and people still expected them to win the division.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Sep 25, 2008 10:45 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I do remember your posts about how the Sox lead was virtually unblowable...

and how you laughed at any poster who thought it was possible.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Sep 25, 2008 10:50 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

LOL.

Describing SSH’s head?

"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Sep 25, 2008 10:53 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

reading comprehension = your strong suit

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Sep 25, 2008 2:51 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm sure some of us were still thinking it.

There wasn’t as much need to say shit like this last week, now was there?

Context, dude. Situation has changed, dude. Adapt.

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Sep 25, 2008 10:54 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

The situation changed because the Sox are choking...

not because the Twins went on some ridiculous hot streak like the Indians or Royals. How would that make anyone content with the season? That’s the same defeatist attitude that our team apparently has.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Sep 25, 2008 10:57 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

is that true

that’s kinda awesome

"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."

by U-God on Sep 25, 2008 12:07 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I don't play for the Sox...

and therefore, I can’t impact their performance. However, the team’s own defeatist attitude can affect their own performance.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Sep 25, 2008 11:04 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

elephants are the only mammals that can't jump.

i lack the discipline to want it more.

by larry on Sep 25, 2008 11:07 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Another personal attack...

that doesn’t even pertain to the subject at hand. Good one.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Sep 25, 2008 11:10 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Listen, SSH,

whether the Sox win or lose tonight., your little boy is going to wake up tomorrow morning, catch sight of you and smile.

That’s what’s important.

Yeah, SSH2005, you are a sorry loser.

by ballyb on Sep 25, 2008 11:13 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

cry

In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.

by Chiburb on Sep 25, 2008 11:17 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I should be able to have both though.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Sep 25, 2008 11:23 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

then get out there and do something

you act like you have no control over the situation. geez

by Illini0509 on Sep 25, 2008 11:24 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Life's a bitch.

You only get one that assured.

Yeah, SSH2005, you are a sorry loser.

by ballyb on Sep 25, 2008 11:29 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

If $3000 fall out of the sky right now an landed at my feet, I'd be happy

If that doesn’t happen, I’m not going to get pissed off about it.

by hitlesswonder on Sep 25, 2008 10:25 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

choker.

i lack the discipline to want it more.

by larry on Sep 25, 2008 10:25 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

There's a reason people disagreed with you...

The chances that most teams win at least one game against most other teams on the road is very high but this is the Sox with their defeatist attitude and psyche playing at the Metrodome. Big difference and this series is proving it.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Sep 25, 2008 10:36 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah, you sure are showing them why now, huh?

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Sep 25, 2008 10:40 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Matt Murton might be able to get a clutch hit against the Twins...

cuz our guys sure can’t.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Sep 25, 2008 10:43 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I am still licking my imagined wounds.

Matt Murton is a future HOF’er and a difference-maker in a barnburner of a pennant race.

"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Sep 25, 2008 10:56 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

So is Dewayne Wise.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Sep 25, 2008 10:58 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah...

I wish I could be right 100% of the time like you, haha.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Sep 25, 2008 11:03 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

you really don't read anything, do you?

i’ve never claimed to be right 100% of the time. i go with the probabilities. duh.

i lack the discipline to want it more.

by larry on Sep 25, 2008 11:06 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

blind squirrel gets an acorn sometimes.

if people want to bet on unlikely events occurring, go right ahead. simply because they win two times out of ten doesn’t make it any less idiotic.

i lack the discipline to want it more.

by larry on Sep 25, 2008 10:44 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

The Sox losing at the Twinkiedome...

is like a blind squirrel finding an acorn? I think not.

What was the Sox record at the Twinkiedome this season before this series started?

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Sep 25, 2008 10:47 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

0-0

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Sep 25, 2008 2:53 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Ummm, no.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Sep 25, 2008 3:25 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

sigh.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Sep 25, 2008 3:36 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Yep,

I’ve been bearish on the market since 1984 and the past week was the 2nd week that I’ve been right.

Yeah, SSH2005, you are a sorry loser.

by ballyb on Sep 25, 2008 11:07 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

just keep doubling down.

i lack the discipline to want it more.

by larry on Sep 25, 2008 11:08 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Martingale!

Fun but not an optimal strategy….

by hitlesswonder on Sep 25, 2008 11:18 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I got B Stearns-like leverage already.

Yeah, SSH2005, you are a sorry loser.

by ballyb on Sep 25, 2008 11:22 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Chances are much higher that a team with a 2.5 game lead...

doesn’t blow it with six games left to play than $3,000 dollars falling from the sky.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Sep 25, 2008 10:27 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

colin, check his math.

"you threw it like a fucking hydrogen bomb."

by Toonderstrook on Sep 25, 2008 10:33 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

lol.

i lack the discipline to want it more.

by larry on Sep 25, 2008 10:33 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I think we've been through this before

Statistically sweeps are unlikely — you shouldn’t expect them to happen in general, which is NOT THE SAME as saying a sweep will not happen.

Moreover, at this point with one game left to play, the statistical likelihood of a team sweeping a 3 game series has no impact on the chances of the Twins completing a sweep tonight (that’s like thinking that a bad run in a casino has to stop because long bad runs are unlikely — Gambler’s Fallacy).

The chances of the Twins completing a sweep tonight are the same as the chances of them winning this one game.

But I think you know all that, and for some reason just choose to twist people’s words because you are pissed the Sox are losing and you just want to point out that the Sox are as lousy of a team as you said they were. No one I know said that there was no way the Sox wouldn’t get swept. So stop pretending like that’s what anyone said.

by hitlesswonder on Sep 25, 2008 10:08 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

no fresh artichokes? reach for frozen.

i lack the discipline to want it more.

by larry on Sep 25, 2008 10:09 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Not that I'm amazing at probability

but yeah. Not exactly. The Twins, like they’ve been for every game so far, will be favored to win. 60% is the high end of that. Each game is more or less an independent event (barring a few carryover issues like injuries and bullpen usage).

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Sep 25, 2008 2:49 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

it's always brutal to watch those games were it feels like the sox are constantly on the verge of busting it open with a big inning and it just doesn't happen.

looking at the scoreboard and watching the opportunities dwindle.

You're on thin fucking ice my pedigree chums, and I shall be under it when it breaks. Now, fuck off.

by MarketMaker on Sep 25, 2008 1:47 AM CDT   0 recs

I wonder how Swisher would have fared in Wise's place in the same situations...

He has sucked this season but it still sucks to think about now.

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Sep 25, 2008 2:05 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Buehrle called the Twins "shit-heads" instead of "piranhas"...

And some of you will love this quote by Ozzie…

Link:

“Defense and pitching, that’s the philosophy I believe in,” added Guillen of Gomez’s catch. “The Ozzie Guillen philosophy worked for somebody else tonight.”

"god, you’re fucking stupid."
-- Larry

by SSH2005 on Sep 25, 2008 2:12 AM CDT   0 recs

Which is why Griffey was in CF.

"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Sep 25, 2008 8:07 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs