You're Just as Freddy as You Were Back Then
Detroit Tigers @ Chicago White Sox
Freddy Garcia may be a familiar face to those around here, but his repertoire is no longer so familiar. He lost velocity in his final season on the southside, and, in lieu of admitting he had a shoulder issue, attempted to reinvent himself as a junkballer. For the most part, Garcia was largely unsuccessful, save the final month of the '06 season when he emerged with a "new" split-finger pitch. A further drop in velocity (and effectiveness) in '07 with the Phils had Garcia opt for mid-season shoulder surgery, which put him back on the free agent market this August, where the Tigers picked him up.
Garcia now has a fastball that sits at about 88-89 MPH and tops out at about 91. Unfortunately for the Sox, it appears he doesn't throw it nearly as much as when he was in black. He's got a good changeup and about 80 MPH and a slow curveball around 70. His slider and splitter also sit at about the same speed as his change, so for Sox hitters, who've never seen this version of Garcia, the key to knocking out Garcia will come down to pitch recognition. He's only started two games at the majors, and he could be fired up to face off against his old team and the guy he was traded for, so this scouting report comes with a bit of an asterisk.
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"he could be fired up to face off against his old team"

"you think i got kicked out because of just the aquarium? nah, it was the handjob. and you know what else? it was worth it."
by Toonderstrook on Sep 29, 2008 12:15 PM CDT 0 recs
For the younger crowd

"There will be surgery. It will heal. It will heal fast."- Carlos Quentin on NBC 5 News Chicago (9/5/08)
by tailgater on
Sep 29, 2008 12:18 PM CDT
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consider it done
I wish he was in my fantasy league. id bury that cocksucker- KenWo4Life
by Hawk is God on
Sep 29, 2008 12:36 PM CDT
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HA! any time you need two hands to hold a spleef.....
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on
Sep 29, 2008 12:37 PM CDT
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Almost the size of one
back in ’76, on 1st trip to Jamaica (mon).
Pitching and defense win baseball games in September and October.
by ballyb on
Sep 29, 2008 1:35 PM CDT
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Hawk just said on the WGN news at noon
that if up to him Clayton Richard gets the ball in game 1 at Tampa if and when we get there.
That’s why he was GM of the Year.
I wish he was in my fantasy league. id bury that cocksucker- KenWo4Life
by Hawk is God on Sep 29, 2008 12:16 PM CDT 0 recs
a significant part of me agrees with hawk.
i lack the discipline to want it more.
by larry on
Sep 29, 2008 12:21 PM CDT
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Would that be the boner that you have for Clayton Richard, or some other "significant" part?
;)
this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry
by rhythm on
Sep 29, 2008 12:23 PM CDT
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you seem to have me mistaken for tdogg.
i lack the discipline to want it more.
by larry on
Sep 29, 2008 12:25 PM CDT
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because it would then allow us to setup the rotation
and give guys full rest?
brndnprkns: I'm pretty sure the "badass" value of your life is closer to Gigli than The Dark Knight
by whitesoxmatt on
Sep 29, 2008 1:16 PM CDT
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because javy has looked like shit recently. [there isn't going to be a problem setting up the rotation with the off days.]
and the rays don’t handle lefties as well as righties generally. not sure i’d do it – javy has had success against the rays and we are talking about replacing javy with clayton for game 1 of a playoff series (you’d also basically be declaring your intention to dump javy) – but i don’t think the thought is quite as ridiculous as some make it out to be. hawk has obviously lost confidence in javy and it wouldn’t surprise me if that wasn’t shared by certain members of the white sox clubhouse, too. he’s a mechanical mess now.
i lack the discipline to want it more.
by larry on
Sep 29, 2008 1:20 PM CDT
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Um...No
I hate to say it, but as I said in the other thread, I think it has to be Javy. He’d be on full rest, so maybe it’d help him out after the short rest shellackings.
by Crede's Crew on
Sep 29, 2008 12:28 PM CDT
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Short rest vs. Richard
A quick look shows the results of this short-rest thing aren’t too bad, except Javy (MB 2-2, GF 1-1, JV 0-2)
by tommyjoepeters on
Sep 29, 2008 4:31 PM CDT
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Weather map as of 12:05

"There will be surgery. It will heal. It will heal fast."- Carlos Quentin on NBC 5 News Chicago (9/5/08)
by tailgater on Sep 29, 2008 12:17 PM CDT 0 recs
everybody stepping on bally's toes today.
"you think i got kicked out because of just the aquarium? nah, it was the handjob. and you know what else? it was worth it."
by Toonderstrook on
Sep 29, 2008 12:18 PM CDT
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i can confirm
it is raining in dekalb
more importantly they have the tarp on at the Cell
I wish he was in my fantasy league. id bury that cocksucker- KenWo4Life
by Hawk is God on
Sep 29, 2008 12:18 PM CDT
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Dangummit!
"There will be surgery. It will heal. It will heal fast."- Carlos Quentin on NBC 5 News Chicago (9/5/08)
by tailgater on
Sep 29, 2008 12:19 PM CDT
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pokemon-style seizures coming in 5...4...3...
"you think i got kicked out because of just the aquarium? nah, it was the handjob. and you know what else? it was worth it."
by Toonderstrook on
Sep 29, 2008 12:45 PM CDT
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fucking amazing.
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
by colintj on
Sep 29, 2008 1:36 PM CDT
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Let's just hope
Freddy’s good and hung over like when he was wearing the silver and black
"The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote: 'A flute with no holes is not a flute, And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.' He was a funny guy."
by Noce1184 on Sep 29, 2008 12:22 PM CDT 0 recs
you forgot
SWEATY
I wish he was in my fantasy league. id bury that cocksucker- KenWo4Life
by Hawk is God on
Sep 29, 2008 12:22 PM CDT
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Also,
I wouldn’t be sad if the showers/toilets/lights “suddenly” stopped functioning in the visiting clubhouse today.
…as Milli Vanilli once said – “blame it on the rain”
"The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote: 'A flute with no holes is not a flute, And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.' He was a funny guy."
by Noce1184 on Sep 29, 2008 12:24 PM CDT 0 recs
i believe milli vanilli said
“girl you know its – girl you know its- girl you know its- girl you know its”
by BoeJouma on
Sep 29, 2008 3:24 PM CDT
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Ruin a Twins Poll
http://www.twinkietown.com/2008/9/28/623930/twins-sox-win-sox-face-tig
I wish he was in my fantasy league. id bury that cocksucker- KenWo4Life
by Hawk is God on Sep 29, 2008 12:31 PM CDT 0 recs
I don't know if that would be considerered...
‘ruining’ it.
by Daymonster on
Sep 29, 2008 12:34 PM CDT
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done and done.
I like that their results are mostly of the losing nature for them. hahahahahahahaha. makes me laugh…..those twinkies…..
I’m laughing now in case I no longer can after today/tomorrow.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on
Sep 29, 2008 12:39 PM CDT
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minnesota: the land of 10,000 lakes and 1,000 ssh-like twins fans.
"you think i got kicked out because of just the aquarium? nah, it was the handjob. and you know what else? it was worth it."
by Toonderstrook on
Sep 29, 2008 12:42 PM CDT
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did my part
What’s the ultimate fate of the 2008 Minnesota Twins?
37%
Miss post-season by losing to Chi-Town on Tuesday
81 votes
25%
Win division; lose in divisional playoffs
54 votes
16%
Win division; lose in league showdown with Boston or Los Angeles
35 votes
1%
Win division; lose World Series
4 votes
18%
Win division; win World Series
by The Scoper on
Sep 29, 2008 12:48 PM CDT
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Is this the game thread?
In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.
by Chiburb on Sep 29, 2008 12:49 PM CDT 0 recs
it looks like a gamethread....feels like a gamethread.....
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on
Sep 29, 2008 12:50 PM CDT
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But it doesn't. That's why I asked.
Almost like one of those mid-day filler threads.
In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.
by Chiburb on
Sep 29, 2008 12:52 PM CDT
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it smells different in these threads the last couple of days...
"you think i got kicked out because of just the aquarium? nah, it was the handjob. and you know what else? it was worth it."
by Toonderstrook on
Sep 29, 2008 12:51 PM CDT
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you mean sweat instead of vomit?
In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.
by Chiburb on
Sep 29, 2008 12:52 PM CDT
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i was thinking cinnamon, but now that you mention it...
"you think i got kicked out because of just the aquarium? nah, it was the handjob. and you know what else? it was worth it."
by Toonderstrook on
Sep 29, 2008 12:53 PM CDT
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...nag champa? that's what i'm smelling in this one.....could be freddy, though.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on
Sep 29, 2008 12:54 PM CDT
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I think I saw reference to vanilla too
In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.
by Chiburb on
Sep 29, 2008 12:54 PM CDT
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From the people that brought you ruin a Twins poll
It’s ruin a Twins gamethread!!!
http://www.twinkietown.com/2008/9/29/624513/detroit-tigers-chicago-whi
Cheer for us to lose???? Cowards.
I wish he was in my fantasy league. id bury that cocksucker- KenWo4Life
by Hawk is God on Sep 29, 2008 12:52 PM CDT 0 recs
Chicago "Whit" Sox? They can't spell there...
In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.
by Chiburb on
Sep 29, 2008 12:54 PM CDT
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If you plan on being a douchebag on another site, don't plan on posting here anymore
AIM: SouthSideCheat
by The Cheat on
Sep 29, 2008 12:55 PM CDT
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Excuse him, Cheat. He's had a few vinegar and waters.
In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.
by Chiburb on
Sep 29, 2008 12:56 PM CDT
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I don't
The poll was serious. the gamethread is not.
I wish he was in my fantasy league. id bury that cocksucker- KenWo4Life
by Hawk is God on
Sep 29, 2008 12:57 PM CDT
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any word in chicagoland re: whether start time has been pushed back?
"you think i got kicked out because of just the aquarium? nah, it was the handjob. and you know what else? it was worth it."
by Toonderstrook on Sep 29, 2008 12:56 PM CDT 0 recs
they better not, I took the afternoon off for this
"The little things are always in my mind," he said. "I always like to move the guy over, I like to bunt."
by ChicagoPete on
Sep 29, 2008 12:57 PM CDT
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Starting time delayed
Mark Gonzales – 12:48 p.m.
The start of Monday’s White Sox-Detroit game has been delayed by rain. The Sox will provide more information when it becomes available, but no rescheduled starting time was announced.
i lack the discipline to want it more.
by larry on
Sep 29, 2008 12:59 PM CDT
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Radar at 12:54

I wish he was in my fantasy league. id bury that cocksucker- KenWo4Life
by Hawk is God on Sep 29, 2008 1:08 PM CDT 0 recs
Ozzie says the bullpen is READY!
sweet, I’ve been waiting for them to get ready for some baseballz.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Sep 29, 2008 1:09 PM CDT 0 recs
Did he say what they were ready for?
Was it the offseason?
by the wolf on
Sep 29, 2008 1:13 PM CDT
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+1
Nicely done.
"The Sox have a better home record than the Twins, but...we're not at home right now." -DJ
by Joist on
Sep 29, 2008 1:16 PM CDT
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heeeheeehee. I do not believe he specified, but I assume you are correct - they are ready to sit on the couch and get fatter.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on
Sep 29, 2008 1:30 PM CDT
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I'll bet another hour, depending on the southern edge of this crud

"There will be surgery. It will heal. It will heal fast."- Carlos Quentin on NBC 5 News Chicago (9/5/08)
by tailgater on Sep 29, 2008 1:11 PM CDT 0 recs
Meanwhile..."Big Game" is chillin' out

"There will be surgery. It will heal. It will heal fast."- Carlos Quentin on NBC 5 News Chicago (9/5/08)
by tailgater on Sep 29, 2008 1:13 PM CDT 0 recs
Wow, Hawk looks like shit
Haven’t seen his face in awhile, this season has taken a serious toll on him. My guess is he’s up to a fifth of bourbon a day by now.
"The little things are always in my mind," he said. "I always like to move the guy over, I like to bunt."
by ChicagoPete on Sep 29, 2008 1:14 PM CDT 0 recs
Why did Hawk put his sunglasses on?
Hungover?
Go Sox!
by luzinski on
Sep 29, 2008 1:14 PM CDT
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He had to do a few rails to get out of bed this morning
"The little things are always in my mind," he said. "I always like to move the guy over, I like to bunt."
by ChicagoPete on
Sep 29, 2008 1:15 PM CDT
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dude.
fuck the badgers amirite?
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
by colintj on
Sep 29, 2008 1:39 PM CDT
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nice, very nice
the season just got interesting
"The little things are always in my mind," he said. "I always like to move the guy over, I like to bunt."
by ChicagoPete on
Sep 29, 2008 1:40 PM CDT
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He has light sensitivity ever since his eye operations
Anytime he has to face a camera with a light behind it, he has to wear glasses
AIM: SouthSideCheat
by The Cheat on
Sep 29, 2008 1:43 PM CDT
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cold water.
facts, schmacts.
i lack the discipline to want it more.
by larry on
Sep 29, 2008 1:44 PM CDT
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yeah, right
"The little things are always in my mind," he said. "I always like to move the guy over, I like to bunt."
by ChicagoPete on
Sep 29, 2008 1:44 PM CDT
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he was out all night last night with freddy getting drunk
hes doing his job
by The Scoper on
Sep 29, 2008 1:15 PM CDT
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Can't sleep
He said the other day he can’t sleep after losses. I think he takes the losses harder than the team does.
by the wolf on
Sep 29, 2008 1:15 PM CDT
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Coop, gotta love 'im
No lack of confidence for the ole ball coach.
"The little things are always in my mind," he said. "I always like to move the guy over, I like to bunt."
by ChicagoPete on
Sep 29, 2008 1:20 PM CDT
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coop is a hottie
"My eyebrows ain't plucked there's a gun in my truck. Oh,thank god, I'm still a guy." - Paisley
*McCain 08* By Default...
by usualsuspect on
Sep 29, 2008 1:21 PM CDT
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Hawk looks sweet, he's got a hawks hat on, and I love it
"My eyebrows ain't plucked there's a gun in my truck. Oh,thank god, I'm still a guy." - Paisley
*McCain 08* By Default...
by usualsuspect on Sep 29, 2008 1:20 PM CDT 0 recs
Uh oh
“A secondary lobe…”
"would've been a sweep if pablo was here" -Kenwo-
by Hazymania on Sep 29, 2008 1:23 PM CDT 0 recs
i hate those lobes, but i love miller lite
"My eyebrows ain't plucked there's a gun in my truck. Oh,thank god, I'm still a guy." - Paisley
*McCain 08* By Default...
by usualsuspect on
Sep 29, 2008 1:24 PM CDT
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My lobes will get toasted if they wait too long
I jumped the gun and mixed a bloody to get ready for the first pitch. They’re ruining the timing of my buzz, I’ll be a mess by the end of the game now.
"The little things are always in my mind," he said. "I always like to move the guy over, I like to bunt."
by ChicagoPete on
Sep 29, 2008 1:26 PM CDT
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way ahead of you
"My eyebrows ain't plucked there's a gun in my truck. Oh,thank god, I'm still a guy." - Paisley
*McCain 08* By Default...
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