What Is The Moment in Baseball History You Most Want to See Replayed on MLBTV?
Yes, I am officially MLBTV gay. And I don't care who knows it. Part of it is all baseball, all of the time. But after watching history tonight (yes, Yankee history, but that's only an irritant) I started thinking about the games - thousands upon thousands of them - I'd never seen. Important games. Record-breaking games.
So here are the parameters to the question above - the game/moment can't be one you've seen as it's happened, or that you've seen on tape. It has to be one you've not witnessed. What moment do you most want to see for the first time in its entirety?
Mine's easy - I want to see Willie Mays' "The Catch" in 1954's World Series. Yeah, yeah, there are replays, but I've never seen it in context, and how it broke the back of the Indians' rally. What is your never-before-seen moment you'd like to see?
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Can I get a made-for-tv Moneyball, plz?
Maybe some dramatic readings from the Thinking Fan’s Guide to Baseball?
I saw a video of this game a few years ago and it was pretty great:
June 28: Fidrych was in the spotlight, as the Tigers faced the Yankees on Monday Night Baseball. In front of a crowd of 47,855 at Tiger Stadium and a national television audience, “The Bird” talked to the ball and groomed the mound, as the Tigers won, 5-1 in a game that lasted only 1 hour and 51 minutes. After the game, the crowd would not leave the park until Fidrych came out of the dugout to tip his cap. In his book “No Big Deal,” Fidrcyh said: “Everyone picks out that game. Why? Why is that game — just ‘cause it’s on national TV and I won? Say it was national TV and I lost. Right?” Mark Fidrych, “No Big Deal” (1977), p. 149.
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by defensive indifference on
Jan 1, 2009 9:47 PM CST
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Does it have to be games on film?
Because I’d like to see the 1919 World Series to try to spot how apparent the cheating was.
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by Sox Machine on
Jan 1, 2009 10:06 PM CST
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Hahahahahaha...
of maybe some video evidence proving whether or not Abner Doubleday invented baseball!
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by defensive indifference on
Jan 1, 2009 10:13 PM CST
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I'll take any of the old rain delay clips
The old clips they used to run in the 70’s – I remember Letterman doing that on his old NBC show once – came out then switched to a rain delay filler for the show… it was awesome
Replacing "Chicago Tough" with "Cuban Pride"
by Brush Back on
Jan 1, 2009 10:28 PM CST
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I don't think my answer meets all of your qualifications, but off the top of my head, some things I'd like to see...
- Kerry Wood’s 20 K game. I don’t remember the game but people say his stuff that day was absolutely disgusting. Somewhere on the internets there’s a clip of all the pitches that ended up K’ing the batter, but I haven’t seen the game in full.
- I want some vintage Pedro. I wasn’t all that interested (and somewhat young, too) in baseball during his two year stretch of amazing from 2002-2003, so seeing a couple of his more dominant performances would be pretty sweet.
Mainly I want to see some of the nasty pitchers who I was never able to see… Nolan Ryan, Dwight Gooden and Koufax are a couple of others (there’s obviously a bevy more who I’m not thinking about, but you get my point).
by CWSKeith on
Jan 2, 2009 3:44 AM CST
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okay, wu. this channel has been on for, like, almost a day now.
i think it’s time you start using the appropriate acronym already.
by larry on
Jan 2, 2009 10:03 AM CST
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MLBN?
I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT
by winningugly on
Jan 2, 2009 12:38 PM CST
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maybe MLB.NET
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on
Jan 2, 2009 6:57 PM CST
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i would like to see Dock Ellis' acid no-no
and i agree with Keith on the vintage Pedro. though i definitely remember watching him in his prime and marveling. i’ve never seen someone more dominant, outside of that 20 K Wood game.
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
by colintj on
Jan 2, 2009 10:49 AM CST
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seconded
if anything but to see who later would kick themselves for not being able to hit a guy for whom the walls are dripping
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by thatshortkid on
Jan 2, 2009 12:22 PM CST
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And whose bats look like flaming spears.
(How cool would THAT be?)
I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT
by winningugly on
Jan 2, 2009 12:31 PM CST
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i was under the impression that that's what Q! uses regardless
I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.
by thatshortkid on
Jan 2, 2009 1:27 PM CST
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It was a gift from his brother Hephaestus.
How much is that Uribe in the window?
by thecip on
Jan 2, 2009 2:26 PM CST
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also the Nolan Ryan - Robin Ventura game
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
by colintj on
Jan 2, 2009 10:52 AM CST
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Jackie Robinson's MLB debut
I would have said Hank Aaron breaking Ruth’s record, but they show the clip of him actually hitting the home run all the time.
Vinny Del Negro interviewed for the job today. I mean come on! Nobody else thinks this is nuts?
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by Ozzie Montana on
Jan 2, 2009 11:17 AM CST
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i recall a certain broadcast on september 9, 2003 that would be pretty amusing to see again.
by larry on
Jan 2, 2009 12:01 PM CST
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I never saw it - Paniagua?
Who busted a nut that day?
I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT
by winningugly on
Jan 2, 2009 12:38 PM CST
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do tell. Sox histoire says it was just another routine Twins-beating, and it was too early for the Flubs to be flubbing in the play-offs on Sept 9th.
Speaking of – wasn’t 2003 also Sammy’s corked-bat game? I’d love a replay of that, though I don’t think MLB would really get as much satisfaction from it…
Unless! They had a special on baseball scandals over the years.
Now THAT is a show I’d like to see.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on
Jan 2, 2009 2:23 PM CST
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routine twins-beating?
this game is etched in white sox lore. i’m stunned that you don’t recognize it. wu said it above.
by larry on
Jan 2, 2009 2:29 PM CST
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OK. "Routine" is a strong word. His 108 ERA posted that game? 4 runs in 1/3 inning? Is that what makes it amusing? Was there some great defensive moment that prevented the Twins from getting 6 in the 9th?
I think Neil Cotts had a worse game than that in 2003….
yep… 1/3 inning….4 walks, 3 hits, 5 ERs
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on
Jan 2, 2009 3:02 PM CST
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are you just fucking around or something?
if you don’t know what the significance of paniagua and that game is in white sox lore, you may want to talk to dad.
by larry on
Jan 2, 2009 3:08 PM CST
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Is 'dad' code for 'google?' I cannot remember where I was this fateful night, but I know I only missed watching about 10 games that whole season (this must be one of them because you'd think I would remember the gesture that ended his Sox career).
Terribly sorry, larry-san.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on
Jan 2, 2009 3:19 PM CST
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ask your dad. i'm betting he's watched white sox broadcasts over the last five years.
the internet would not do this event and its afterglow justice.
by larry on
Jan 2, 2009 3:26 PM CST
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Search "Paniagua" on this site
and you’ll get some his-to-ree on it.
I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT
by winningugly on
Jan 2, 2009 6:28 PM CST
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Courtesy of the Chicago Tribune archives...ah, memories...
White Sox 8, Twins 6
Sox keep on chuggin’
Bullpen nearly blows 6-run cushion; Twins fall 2 games behind
By Teddy Greenstein
Tribune staff reporter
11:38 PM CDT, September 9, 2003
Perhaps the White Sox can blame it on the full moon.
They nearly blew a six-run lead in the ninth inning Tuesday night before escaping with an 8-6 victory over the Twins.
“That was a big win,” Mark Buehrle said after the Sox extended their lead in the American League Central to a season-high two games. “If we had lost, the momentum would have gone right back to them.”
The Sox barely survived after Jose Paniagua entered the game with an 8-2 lead in the ninth.
The 30-year-old right-hander, in his first major-league appearance since Sept. 5, 2002, gave up three hits and a walk while retiring one batter. Then things got even uglier.
As he walked toward the dugout after being removed from the game, Paniagua ripped into home plate umpire Mark Carlson and appeared to make an obscene gesture, drawing an ejection.
“That’s something we definitely don’t condone and definitely have to address,” manager Jerry Manuel said.
Paniagua declined comment.
Summoned to protect a four-run lead with two runners on, closer Tom Gordon walked Torii Hunter before giving up a sacrifice fly and a single.
With the potential go-ahead run at home plate, Gordon blew a fastball past Michael Cuddyer to end the game.
“They might get a little confidence knowing they battled back,” Buehrle said. “But they still lost.”
The bizarre ninth overshadowed a mammoth power display in the seventh inning that resembled batting practice.
With two outs and the Sox up 4-2, Roberto Alomar clubbed a home run over the Twins’ bullpen in right field, allowing the Sox to join Texas and Boston as the only American League teams with 200 homers.
Frank Thomas then lined a double to left-center. Right-hander Grant Balfour replaced Rick Reed, but things got worse for the Twins.
Magglio Ordonez stroked an RBI single to center and Carlos Lee followed that with a towering home run down the left-field line.
It was Lee’s 28th homer and it gave him a career-high 100 RBIs.
“It’s encouraging and rewarding to see a young player come through the system and reach that plateau,” Manuel said.
Buehrle improved to 12-13 despite laboring through six innings.
He needed help to protect a 3-2 lead in the sixth. After Corey Koskie led off with a double, Hunter chunked a grounder into the dirt near home plate.
Sandy Alomar Jr. threw to third to nab Koskie, drawing an impassioned argument from third-base coach Al Newman. Replays showed Koskie was safe.
After hitting A.J. Pierzynski with a pitch, Buehrle picked him off first for the second out, bringing an already lively home crowd of 27,623 to its feet.
“That’s the loudest I’ve ever heard this place,” Buehrle said.
The Sox had an uneasy feeling entering the game, like a ship approaching icy waters without radar.
They had no video of Twins left-hander Carlos Pulido, a soft thrower making his first major-league start since 1994.
“The key for us is to be patient,” Manuel said. “I think we have enough veteran-type hitters to grasp that philosophy.”
Manuel was right. Pulido needed 24 pitches to retire the Sox’s four hitters in the first.
The Sox jumped on him in the second. Joe Crede broke a scoreless tie by driving in Lee from third base. Alomar Jr. added a sacrifice fly and Tony Graffanino drove in Crede with jam shot past first baseman Doug Mientkiewicz.
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by tailgater on
Jan 2, 2009 11:41 PM CST
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thanks!
I do remember this happening now (still think it was one of the games I missed, but I recall hearing about it), but I suppose my context of the division race was forgotten too…
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on
Jan 3, 2009 10:21 AM CST
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i realize you're out of town
but it would be almost impossible to be a regular watcher of sox broadcasts and not have heard about this.
by larry on
Jan 3, 2009 11:02 AM CST
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Yes, obviously. And I was very much "in town" until 2007 anyway.
On my drive home yesterday, old conversations about it with my best friend in Chicago suddenly warshed over me and I remembered it occurring. Just did not recall it right away, nor the dude’s name.
I probably took offense to his gesture and deliberately suppressed the memory.
:P
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by homesickalien on
Jan 3, 2009 11:10 AM CST
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How about April 22, 2000?
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CHA/CHA200004220.shtml
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by Sox Machine on
Jan 2, 2009 12:25 PM CST
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I’d like to see some of the big time hitters that aren’t in that Aaron, Mantle group that get’s replayed all the time. Willie Stargell, Dick Allen for a couple names off the top of my head. Was it Stargell who warmed up with a sledgehammer?
by Grinder in Training on
Jan 2, 2009 1:02 PM CST
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Add to that
Vlad & Andrew Dawson in their Expo days. I want to see just how good this arm of Dawson’s was.
by Grinder in Training on
Jan 2, 2009 1:43 PM CST
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Frank's 2-out walk-off in the 12th (and Paulie's 11th inning, 2-out homer that kept them in the game) to complete the Twins sweep at home in 2003.
This game is etched in my memory.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on
Jan 2, 2009 2:16 PM CST
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July 12, 2009 is the 30th anniversary of Disco Demolition
While it was a black eye for the Sox at the time (resulting in a forfeit of game 2), it makes me feel nostolgic as I was but a lad of only 16 years of age at the time. What fun it would be to hear Jimmy Piersall losing his mind just one more time.
Here’s a taste of the news coverage that night:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpQfCcsqQ0E
You will likely see a couple of my Bridgeport cousins being dragged into meat wagons by the cops. One report even features game 1 highlights with the great Rusty Torres rounding third and scoring!
Ah, great memories indeed.
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by tailgater on
Jan 3, 2009 12:17 AM CST
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98 cents to get in - standing behind home plate taking it all in - Priceless!
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by Brush Back on
Jan 3, 2009 6:05 PM CST
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How 'bout a double header:
Ted Williams enters the last day of the 1941 season batting exactly .400.Manager Joe Cronin asks Ted if he wants to sit out the twin bill to keep the avg. at .400.Ted says (insert expletives here) and proceeds to go 6 for 8 and finishes the season at .406.And,as we all know,it was the last time anyone hit .400.I would love to see both games.
Footnote:Williams was not the league’s MVP that year.That would be Joe DiMaggio who hit in 56 straight that year.
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Jan 3, 2009 11:02 AM CST
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