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Figgins Rumors Won't Dye

According to a major-league scout, the Angels are the latest team to express interest in acquiring Jermaine Dye now that the Mark Teixeira ship has set sail to New York. Unlike the talks with the Reds that stalled during the Winter Meetings, the Sox and Angels actually have a fit.

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I wish these rumors would just Dye

None of the proposed trades intrigue me enough to trade Jermaine. I am sick of hearing about Figgins…by the time we acquire him he will have lost his speed for goodness sake. I say stick with Dye for this year….see how he does…if he does well pick up the option in 2010 and let him DH.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Jan 12, 2009 5:41 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I heard on XM that the trade will be dye and macdougal for kotchman and figgins

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jan 12, 2009 5:43 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

They'd have to throw in Orlando Hudson before I would consider this.

And by “they”, I mean both the White Sox and the Angels.

Recap: Cowley is Chessfu is Jammer is Finkel is Bono (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/11/opinion/11bono.html?_r=3&ref=opinion).

by The Actual El Guapo on Jan 12, 2009 5:46 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

STFU.

You cannot just waltz in here every three months and make off with the thread, DB. We are not presenting enough of a challenge to you, are we?

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Jan 12, 2009 8:40 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Uh-oh, looks like grandpa found the key to the liquor cabinet again.

He always was a mean drunk. Ramblings about Sacco-Vanzetti starting in 3 … 2 … 1 …

by The Actual El Guapo on Jan 13, 2009 12:04 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Affection taken.

It is just too easy for you. That last sentence in your original post is pure genius.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Jan 13, 2009 7:14 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

this douchebag says the big hurt is just "even money" for the HOF

http://www.rrstar.com/sports/columnists/x1017436078/Mike-Nadel-Grace-isnt-Hall-worthy-so-who-is

he’s a lock, douchebag

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jan 12, 2009 5:52 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

"The only way Thomas doesn't make it is if voters show an extreme anti-DH bias. "

That’s wrong how?

EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine

by Sox Machine on Jan 12, 2009 5:59 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

oops

I didn’t see that

damn, mea culpa…

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jan 12, 2009 6:05 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ps

how did I miss it? I mistook ‘Thomas’ for ‘Thome’

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jan 12, 2009 6:15 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

she fits neatly into the barbie model

of distinguishing people by giving them distinctly colored hair.

by baby_jamie on Jan 13, 2009 8:46 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Is her hair "magenta"?

"There will be surgery. It will heal. It will heal fast."- Carlos Quentin on NBC 5 News Chicago (9/5/08)

by tailgater on Jan 13, 2009 11:44 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

For the graphic designer crowd...

I believe it would be in the neighborhood of a PMS 207.

"There will be surgery. It will heal. It will heal fast."- Carlos Quentin on NBC 5 News Chicago (9/5/08)

by tailgater on Jan 13, 2009 11:59 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I know Figgins can play several positions.....

where is he best at? worst? adequate?

Glad the Sox are atleast part of some rumors…..it’s been boring.

I am intrigued by a Dye-Figgins trade and then signing Dunn to play RF for 1 year and then DH him in 2010.

by stanchar on Jan 12, 2009 6:36 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Though KW has expressed the White Sox wish to be "financially

responsible" in 2009 with the econonmy, etc….we have already off a chunk of payroll this year….and then DOTEL, JC, THOME, DYE off the books after this year (-40ish)……though I realize Quentin, Danks, Jenks, Floyd will receive bumps soon enough…..it makes sense to spend some $$$$$ now with it being a pretty good buyer’s market whereas I think next year’s FA crop is thin.

by stanchar on Jan 12, 2009 6:42 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

isn't dunn a bigger butcher at right than left?

I see a -64 UZR150 at RF and a -9.6 at LF

http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=319&position=OF

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jan 12, 2009 6:44 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

espn classic is showing game 7 of the 91 world series now

rookie chuck knobloch….good ole kirby and smoltzy! (a young one!)

takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm

by furby2056 on Jan 12, 2009 7:18 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Right aboutthe year of your birth, ain't it, furbs?

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Jan 12, 2009 8:41 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

abouts 2 years afters

takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm

by furby2056 on Jan 12, 2009 9:10 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

CHOCK KNA-BLOCK!

also, no smoking in the Metrodome, NO SMO-KANG!

I'm like a laser, six-string razor. I've got a mouth like an alligator

by Nordhagen on Jan 12, 2009 11:47 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I wish someone would have smoked and burned that dump down.

Is anyone with me that the Twins will not be as good as they are once they move outdoors?

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Jan 12, 2009 11:48 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Knoblach was Punto before there was a Punto.

He was the Marburg to Punto’s Ebola, or Kaiser Wilhelm II to Punto’s Hitler.

by The Actual El Guapo on Jan 13, 2009 12:06 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   1 recs

Looks like someone has been hitting the hukkah again...

I dig the Hunter S. Thompson Stream of Consciousness thing.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Jan 13, 2009 7:16 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yes, but its not the outdoors

currently, their team is based around excellent fielders for very fast turf. the turf is going to be gone. I can’t remember the study, but they have a significant home advantage they are going to lose.

so, hurrah!

by coffeepac on Jan 12, 2009 11:50 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

d'oh!

reply fail. this was supposed to be in response to KenWo, re: burning down the baggy dome.

by coffeepac on Jan 12, 2009 11:51 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

must be nice...

when your team signs free agents and stuff like that.

by Hatchetm on Jan 13, 2009 10:31 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Their rotation sure looks better now that Javy is not the #2.

Dammit. Javy will be used properly and will give a great return. And no one will complain.

DAMMIT!

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Jan 13, 2009 11:21 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Javy wasn't our #2 either.

Not a great return.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jan 13, 2009 11:29 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

But more was expected out of him than a #3.

He was a good #3. He is frustrating because he looks like he should do better. He will be used perfectly in ATL, just like Erstad was used perfectly in HOU and had a good year after we all hated him in ’07.

Put a man in position to succeed, and if he is capable, he will. Set him up to fail and he will.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Jan 13, 2009 12:30 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He did succeed last I checked?

He had a couple bad outings that happened to come at the end of the season, otherwise he earned his money here. Just because he wasn’t an ace doesn’t mean we didn’t get a fair return out of the guy. There is a reason we got a guy like Tyler Flowers for him, he did succeed, regularly for the White Sox. You can’t say he had an awful career here just b/c he failed in his most important / recent starts.

by Grinder in Training on Jan 13, 2009 12:34 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You are missing my point. Your assertion is correct, yet you don't see that

I agree he succeeded here. The expectations after the 2nd half of ’07 were so elevated that his reversion to the mean was deemed “underperformance”. Most every poster wanted him gone after flaming out at year-end, but I beleive there were good arguments made that he did exactly what was expected of him, and was paid fairly for doing so.

Perhaps I should’ve posted “More was expected out of him by many others, but not by me”.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Jan 13, 2009 12:43 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He was paid

to be a solid pitcher. Too pitch well in big games – I’m not saying he needed to be a shutdown starter, but he had to keep the team in the game. He couldn’t do that at the end of 2008 – his confidence was shot.

He turned “yella”.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jan 13, 2009 12:46 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If baseball was a 5-inning game

I’d hire Javy to be my ace.

"There will be surgery. It will heal. It will heal fast."- Carlos Quentin on NBC 5 News Chicago (9/5/08)

by tailgater on Jan 13, 2009 12:57 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'd agree

or if you were the GM of the Pirates or Nationals.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jan 13, 2009 1:03 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You're saying he was setup

to fail in TB last year?

The guy has fail written all over his face in any big game or under any pressure. Sucked in NY, sucked in 2006 when we needed something out of him, sucked during crunch time at the end of last season.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jan 13, 2009 12:43 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Me thinks you're remembering incorrectly...

Down the stretch in 2006 Vazquez was one of the few players worth a damn — 3.86 ERA in his final 12 starts that season.

by CWSKeith on Jan 13, 2009 1:12 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

From July 1, 2006 through the end of the 2006 season

Javy had 3 wins and 8 losses.

That isn’t good.

His ERA for the year was 4.84. That isn’t good.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jan 13, 2009 1:27 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

flacco may not have the gaudy stats,

but he just. wins. games.

ben sheets: will throw baseball for food.

by larry on Jan 13, 2009 1:36 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

"paniagua".

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Jan 13, 2009 1:38 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

They were not on short rest

if you consider javy had 4 days of rest in between starts 18 times that season, compared to 5 days of rest 11 times.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jan 13, 2009 1:30 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And the vitriol apparent just makes my point more valid.

CC Sabathia just got a farking HUGE contract, and his post-season numbers suck. Javy is a good #3 pitcher. That’s it.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Jan 13, 2009 1:39 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

All of this Javy love

has made me constipated.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jan 13, 2009 1:48 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

valuing type A compensation
If teams decide to put a a value on draft picks they may receive for a Type A free agent, there are a lot of probabilities they’ll need to calculate. Given the uncertainty of off season events, it can be rather difficult in estimating these probabilities. Because of this, I feel that the most reasonable projection for the value of Type A draft picks would be something between $3-5 million.

http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/valuing-the-draft-part-one/

ben sheets: will throw baseball for food.

by larry on Jan 13, 2009 10:02 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

can you answer me a question about Baseball Prospectus please pal?

When they do the game previews (that you often paste the quotes on here) do they also give percentage probabilities on individual game results based on their internal projection systems? Similar to what fangraphs do I guess.

ta

number one when it mattered!

by hoodlight on Jan 13, 2009 10:06 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i don't recall. i don't think they do.

ben sheets: will throw baseball for food.

by larry on Jan 13, 2009 10:10 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

no

"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."

by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."

by Tdogg on Jan 13, 2009 3:06 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

DEAR ABBY: You’re in a position to do young people a great service by educating a generation that has grown up in a casual-dress world that there’s a line between how one dresses in one’s personal life and how one dresses for work. Cross it, and it could negatively affect your career.

I work for a large multinational company, and I am often shocked at the way people dress. Although there are clear business/casual guidelines, these lines are crossed by men and women alike. Talks behind closed doors have no effect. Sending out the corporate dress code to the staff has yielded no change in behavior.

I finally consulted the HR department and came up with an approved solution. The dress code was again sent out to all employees in my department, with the warning that the next violation would mean being sent home and deducting the time as a vacation day.

Sure enough, “Disco Dolly” showed up in a sheer, low-cut, sleeveless blouse with a micro-mini skirt and strappy sandals. When I sent her home, she complained that she was saving her vacation days. I told her she had violated the company’s dress code — again.

I also pointed out that her chances of promotion were now compromised thanks to the demonstration she had given that following simple instructions was beyond her capabilities. If you want to be regarded as a serious professional, dress like one! Some “suggestions”:

1. DRESS FOR SUCCESS, not sex. Women should not dress like streetwalkers. Leave the sexy, short, filmy dresses, cleavage-baring blouses and spaghetti straps for your personal life. This is an office, not a cocktail party.

2. COVER UP. No sandals or designer flip-flops. We don’t want to see your pedicure, your toe rings, the crust on your heels, or smell your feet.

3. MAKE IT FIT. Anything that hugs the body too tightly is not right for the office. We have a woman working here who looks like a sausage stuffed in a floral polyester casing. It’s hard to take her seriously. The same goes for a man whose pants are so tight that you can tell his religion. Ditto for pants that are so loose and low-slung you can see his underwear or her thong.

4. DON’T POLLUTE. By this I mean go easy on the fragrance. Some people have breathing problems and allergies. Do not pollute the office with a scent that arrives 10 minutes before you do and lingers hours after you’ve gone. This applies to men as well as women.

5. BATHE. There seems to be a new “natural” cult popping up whose adherents believe that washing removes vital oils from the skin and should be avoided. This phenomenon is more often, but not always, a male habit. Anyone in close contact with others should bathe or shower DAILY. — TRYING TO RUN A BUSINESS IN FLORIDA

DEAR TRYING: I’m willing to wager that your letter will be posted on millions of bulletin boards in the business world. Your “suggestions” make good sense. While many companies allow employees to dress down on “casual Fridays,” any business that wants the people it hires to be taken seriously should impress upon them that they must present themselves in a professional manner. Some companies do this in the form of an employee manual that lays it out in black and white. Because your directive was ignored, you were right to let “Disco Dolly” know there would be a penalty for noncompliance.

ben sheets: will throw baseball for food.

by larry on Jan 13, 2009 10:10 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nice sig.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Jan 13, 2009 11:23 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I work for a large multinational company

Well of COURSE you shouldn’t dress slutty at the Vatican! Though I’m surprised anyone even noticed Disco Dolly there…

Then there’s my office: Where the men are men, and the girls are too.

"A good cigar is like a beautiful chick with a great body who also knows the American League box scores. "
Klinger

by Chiburb on Jan 13, 2009 11:36 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

sheets

with lowe getting 4/$60M, what do you see sheets getting? he’s younger and better, but that injury history is scary. fangraphs estimated about 3/$45M, which seems about right. i would think that players that are still floating around looking for work would be more wililng to accept a shorter contract in the hope that the next time they hit free agency the economy isn’t in the shitter.

but would the sox go for it? they like short contracts for pitchers and have a good history of keeping guys healthy, but is it enough of a bargain for KW to pounce? i’d do it, but it’s not my money.

by Ryno on Jan 13, 2009 11:43 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What to say to the heavily perfumed...

“I love that scent…must you marinade in it?”

Don’t even get me started on large-office bathroom etiquette. It can be frightening.

"There will be surgery. It will heal. It will heal fast."- Carlos Quentin on NBC 5 News Chicago (9/5/08)

by tailgater on Jan 13, 2009 11:56 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I work for a large multi-national company,

But, I work as an analyst, not in a position where I will ever work with a customer. I understand not wanting “sexy” our “revealing” or lude dress that may insult others, but I’ll never understand why I have to wear nice clothes to work.
Who am I impressing? My spreadsheets? SAP? I don’t think SAP could care less what I wear, I’d much rather show up in Jeans, gym shoes, and a hooded sweatshirt. If I was more comfortable I’d be more productive. And I’d waste a lot less money on clothes.

Why is Business or Business Casual wear expected for positions that don’t work externally? I just don’t understand the benefit of it, never have. Why do I have to waste money on nice clothes that no one but my co-workers will ever see? What is the point?

by Grinder in Training on Jan 13, 2009 12:31 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Actually here no, although I was working at a bank in an IT department where I literally saw no more then three people a day and it was expected, which was even more ridiculous. I guess I should quite my whining when I look back at that.

by Grinder in Training on Jan 13, 2009 12:35 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The consultancy work I am doing at the moment

The clients dress very casually, but I always make sure I polish my shoes, never wear jeans, and always wear a shirt. I just wouldn’t feel professional enough otherwise, very few people in Engineering wear ties any more, in fact the only people I know that still wear them for work are solicitors and accountants.

number one when it mattered!

by hoodlight on Jan 13, 2009 12:41 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

"Solicitor" = hooker?

(I know, I know.)

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Jan 13, 2009 12:46 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If I worked with clients I’d expect to wear nice clothes too, that’s a different situation in my opinion. I work as a financial analyst (internal), zero clients worked with or seen.

by Grinder in Training on Jan 13, 2009 12:56 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Atmosphere. Have you ever read "dressed for success"?

It is perception. If all your workers dressed like they just got off the boat they just might perfom that way. I see no reason to wear a suti/sportcoat and tie, but it “feels” different when you get dressed, like putting on the uni, as opposed to just being the knucklehead “you” we all are.

Gird your loins, man.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Jan 13, 2009 12:35 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm not saying come in to work in sweatpants, torn T-shirt and flip flops

But I’m not going to put together a savings program any better just b/c I have some nice slacks on vs. a nice pair of Jeans and some comfortable decent looking gym shoes.

by Grinder in Training on Jan 13, 2009 12:37 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Maybe check if Google or Microsoft are accepting applications

"There will be surgery. It will heal. It will heal fast."- Carlos Quentin on NBC 5 News Chicago (9/5/08)

by tailgater on Jan 13, 2009 12:38 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Again, a nice shirt and a decent pair of slacks isn't over the top.

You are a professional and want to be taken seriously. Act/dress like it. Fer Chrissakes. Casual Friday is over when there is a recession and the possibility of layoffs is staring most folks in the face.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Jan 13, 2009 12:45 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Around here, during the summer, a few of the more rebellious gals

wear open-toed shoes and no stockings.

They are promptly taken out back and beaten by the Fashion Police.

"There will be surgery. It will heal. It will heal fast."- Carlos Quentin on NBC 5 News Chicago (9/5/08)

by tailgater on Jan 13, 2009 12:52 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

With layoffs and a recession, I’d suggest that’s even more of a reason to not waste money on nice clothes that no one will see. Just seems pointless to me.

I’m clearly in the minority here, and I’m sure you have a lot more experience in regards to the business world, so I won’t say I’m right. Personally, I can do professional work in any attire, I’d just prefer to be comfortable while I do it. Maybe that’s just me and not that you care, but my dad worked from home, so it’s probably just my own life experience that has led me to feel like a dress code is a waste (in situations where there is no client contact) and that professional work can be done in casual wear.

by Grinder in Training on Jan 13, 2009 1:03 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

agreed and i think the younger generation would agree with you as well...

as long as you’re doing your work and doing it well, I don’t care what the hell you look or dress like.

by CWSKeith on Jan 13, 2009 1:16 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And the business world agreed with you when everyone was employed,

labor was scarce, and returns were clicking along at 20% annually. Now your boss/clients want to look at someone who takes life, and their position, seriously (and I don’t agree that everyone, no matter the job, needs to be in a coat and tails). But it is what it is.

Perhaps Obama will fix this.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Jan 13, 2009 1:44 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

(Responding to the two of you here...)

that’s fine — if I like a company enough and they want to hire me, I’ll adhere to any and all dress code regulations that they set forth.

I’m just teasing that notion of ‘professionalism’ a bit… I think that’s pretty phony (channeling some of the Holden Caulfield in me), especially with regards to dress. I’ll take people seriously who know what the fuck they’re doing and talking about, not based on whether they have a tie on.

by CWSKeith on Jan 13, 2009 1:50 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it's a short cut.

like everything else in life, i and other people i encounter don’t necessarily have time to thoroughly evaluate every person. welcome to life. more often than not, this is how you’re judged. if you can’t take things seriously enough to dress serious, you’re not going to be taken seriously. sorry. maybe it’s phony but it’s also efficient.

ben sheets: will throw baseball for food.

by larry on Jan 13, 2009 1:54 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My work is enough for me to be taken seriously. I’m not applying for a job, I already have it, I do it well, no one is judging my appearance at this point.

by Grinder in Training on Jan 13, 2009 2:01 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ah, but everyone is now needing to retain their employment.

Ain’t no tenure any more. What have you done for me today?

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Jan 13, 2009 2:07 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And if you want to wear gym shoes to work . . .

Sally across the hall is going to want to wear her ‘dress’ sandals and then Steve down the hall doesn’t like gym shoes, he likes to wear flip flops and then Beth doesn’t like T-shirts, she’d rather wear her pajamas into work . . . you have to draw a line somewhere with a dress code. It just can’t be a free for all of ‘whatever I feel comfortable in’. I am sure your work is valued regardless of how you dress, just doesn’t mean you can and/or should dress in any manner that suits you.

by jc2313 on Jan 13, 2009 2:15 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well most places have a casual Friday, so clearly it’s not too hard to outline what is acceptable for casual wear when so many places able to have one in place. We have no issues with that, for our casual day’s when we have one.

by Grinder in Training on Jan 13, 2009 2:17 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So you believe

in some form of a dress code? Just one that suits your comfortability? And your casual Friday’s allow you to wear a sweatshirt into work?

by jc2313 on Jan 13, 2009 2:21 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No, casual at my work is jeans, but button up / polo /sweater. No T-Shirts / Sweatshirts. Other people I know have different policy’s for “casual”. Some are allowed T-shirts / shorts basically anything goes. Others all that means is business casual instead of a Tie / overcoat.

I believe in a casual dress code that would allow wear that isn’t insulting to other people (i.e. revealing or tight clothing, unclean clothing). I see no reason anything else would hinder me or anyone else while working.

If you work with clients / customers or see them, I’d expect a higher standard.

by Grinder in Training on Jan 13, 2009 2:27 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm like a laser, six-string razor. I've got a mouth like an alligator

by Nordhagen on Jan 13, 2009 3:42 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You can't get a leadoff hitter like Figgins for a plodder like Dye

Look how few true leadoff men are around these days. If the Sox want Figgins, they would need to sweeten the pot. Maybe Dye and Poreda and the Sox take back the GMJr contract as well. Something like that….

by hitlesswonder on Jan 13, 2009 3:51 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The job I want

Is the job I have, but at a place where they have a casual dress code.

by Grinder in Training on Jan 13, 2009 4:04 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I would state a similar wish

same job, but instead of here I would request my office be transfered to the Maldives where I would have 3 bikini clad ladies as my personal assistants.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jan 13, 2009 4:09 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'd just be happy with a job

Replacing "Chicago Tough" with "Cuban Pride"

by Brush Back on Jan 13, 2009 9:43 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Larry stole a bit of my thunder on his reply

but that is just the way the human psyche works. Within seconds of meeting someone, you will have formed opinions on them based on how you look, dress, talk, shake hands, etc.

by jc2313 on Jan 13, 2009 2:11 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The thing is

I’m not meeting these people, we’ve met, numerous times, on a daily basis. It’s people I work with every day. They aren’t forming an opinion of me, they already have.

I agreed with those who work with clients, that you would want to wear business attire.

by Grinder in Training on Jan 13, 2009 2:18 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So, impose a dress code

for ‘new employees’ and one for employees that have been at the company for x years?

by jc2313 on Jan 13, 2009 2:20 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Bait and switch, eh?

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Jan 13, 2009 2:29 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Why would a man that milks

cows for a living wear a suit to a job interview?

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jan 13, 2009 2:36 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That's what I did.

Jeans, shirt with a collar, ballcap every day.

EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine

by Sox Machine on Jan 13, 2009 3:29 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I 'think' I would be part

of the younger generation and could not agree with WU more. Sure, I would be more comfortable wearing jeans and a t shirt, but who would take me seriously within the office. Certainly not any of my superiors. I only work ‘internally’ as well, but there aren’t many jobs where you don’t have ‘customers’ even within your own business. I have seen people come to work with gym shoes and a pair of jeans . . . hard to take them seriously and of the ideas they present. It is a professional setting, dress professionally. Especially when in the business casual world we have today, a pair of dockers and a golf shirt is ‘dressed up’.

by jc2313 on Jan 13, 2009 1:44 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I say..."White Sox Zubas for everyone!"

"There will be surgery. It will heal. It will heal fast."- Carlos Quentin on NBC 5 News Chicago (9/5/08)

by tailgater on Jan 13, 2009 2:19 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I would be onboard for that,

working in the Northern suburbs, I am severely outnumbered and would find it quite funny to see some of my Cub fan coworkers in White Sox zubaz.

by jc2313 on Jan 13, 2009 2:23 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

from www.zubaz.com....
In the fall of 2007 Zubaz made their proud return, featuring classic patterns and bold colors, just like you always remembered. With only slight refinements, our Zubaz pants are ready for the next generation.

Somehow, I must have missed the Great Zubaz Revolution….

I'm like a laser, six-string razor. I've got a mouth like an alligator

by Nordhagen on Jan 13, 2009 2:31 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Every company is different

I work at a video game publisher, and outside of marketing/sales/corporate, it is all casual all the time. In fact, if you showed up in business attire you would get strange looks. Most other software companies I’ve been at are the same. You kind of have to go with the flow.

It was a good season.

by vince_ on Jan 13, 2009 5:31 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Right - the culture of your industry is such

that your “uni” is very casual. When in Rome…

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Jan 13, 2009 5:36 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i clean poop

so they let me wear jeans

In exchange, Galindo was to pay Martinez $16,000 and provide him with 160 cases of beer, 100 cases of soda, 50 cases of Gatorade, two cases of wine, and six cases of meat, Greenfield Police Chief Joe Grebmeier told CNN.

by U-God on Jan 13, 2009 5:41 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I remember those days -

I was peed on numerous times when cleaning the lower cages – the itty-bitty dogs in the upper cages would exhibit their disdain for me by urininating on my head like Donny Ballgame on a bar wall.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Jan 13, 2009 5:46 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

honestly

hearing other people’s horror stories from working in shelters kill me every time

In exchange, Galindo was to pay Martinez $16,000 and provide him with 160 cases of beer, 100 cases of soda, 50 cases of Gatorade, two cases of wine, and six cases of meat, Greenfield Police Chief Joe Grebmeier told CNN.

by U-God on Jan 13, 2009 5:54 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Agreed

though I could see Washington overpaying for his services.

by jc2313 on Jan 13, 2009 1:50 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

if he's DHing, he's probably worth roughly that.

whether he should/will get paid that is another thing.

ben sheets: will throw baseball for food.

by larry on Jan 13, 2009 1:40 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Lunatic.

Can he pitch? Then he needs to STFU and read the market. See, this is the bad attitude he is alleged to display.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Jan 13, 2009 12:36 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nice. You been hitting the pipe again/still?

MIA lately. Get with the off-season program!

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Jan 13, 2009 4:07 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I've been busy

More or less paying attention, but not participating.

Too much to do at work and home to play a role in this soap opera ;)

You are right. But larry is actually a prick too.
- HSA 01/07/09

by rhythm on Jan 13, 2009 4:12 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Developed the "Toonderitis" illness, have you?

It must be sweeping the West Coast. Hasn’t reached FL yet…

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Jan 13, 2009 4:17 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

OT - MLBN

Only 4 days until 2005 WS highlights on MLBN.

I hope that the audience isn’t confused when teams other than the Yankees and Red Sox are featured.

I love the way it’s being promoted…“Watch Ozzie Guillen and his no name White Sox take on the Houston Astros.”

Huh? Timo Perez, a no name? Come on!

"There will be surgery. It will heal. It will heal fast."- Carlos Quentin on NBC 5 News Chicago (9/5/08)

by tailgater on Jan 13, 2009 1:04 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Holy Shit!

That’s really how they’re hyping it?

You have your own network now. You control the message (as they do with MLB.com). You have the power to make stars, or at least give the illusion of stars….

“Ozzie Guillen and his no-name White Sox”

Jesus

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Jan 13, 2009 1:09 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

How dare they call a team with The Legend a no name team!

"There will be surgery. It will heal. It will heal fast."- Carlos Quentin on NBC 5 News Chicago (9/5/08)

by tailgater on Jan 13, 2009 1:20 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

they also say something like

“against the star-studded Astros” as they show shots of clemens, pettitte, berkman, and biggio. how did we ever beat those guys?

by Ryno on Jan 13, 2009 1:38 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Like a drum, mostly

"There will be surgery. It will heal. It will heal fast."- Carlos Quentin on NBC 5 News Chicago (9/5/08)

by tailgater on Jan 13, 2009 1:43 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah, that sweep proved we DOMINATED.

The aggregate 6 run difference in the 4 games means we SMOKED ’em.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Jan 13, 2009 1:50 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

They didn't dominate Houston,

but they did make Brad Lidge a very sad man.

However, over the course of the 11 wins in the playoffs, they certainly did dominate overall – great pitching and clutch hitting.

"There will be surgery. It will heal. It will heal fast."- Carlos Quentin on NBC 5 News Chicago (9/5/08)

by tailgater on Jan 13, 2009 2:05 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It was sliced about as thinly as it could be -

which is why KW decided wholesale changes needed to be made in ‘06. We were destiny’s children that year, I believe.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Jan 13, 2009 2:18 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Definitely...the word "overachievers" comes to mind

But what a rollercoaster ride!

"There will be surgery. It will heal. It will heal fast."- Carlos Quentin on NBC 5 News Chicago (9/5/08)

by tailgater on Jan 13, 2009 2:22 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Eddy Curry

I think I might be a little late too the party if this was already mentioned, but it looks like Isiah wasn’t the only Knick swinging from both sides of the plate.

http://a1022.g.akamai.net/f/1022/8160/5m/images.newsday.com/media/acrobat/2009-01/44492975.pdf

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jan 13, 2009 2:08 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Factual Allegation 20

I’m speechless.

"There will be surgery. It will heal. It will heal fast."- Carlos Quentin on NBC 5 News Chicago (9/5/08)

by tailgater on Jan 13, 2009 2:15 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah, that one caught my eye, too.

Although the “white devil” paragraph was interesting, too.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Jan 13, 2009 2:20 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I hope he saved a towel, so he can present his own "Monica Lewinsky" case

"There will be surgery. It will heal. It will heal fast."- Carlos Quentin on NBC 5 News Chicago (9/5/08)

by tailgater on Jan 13, 2009 2:25 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah - paints an ugly picture of Eddy

Just roaming around his house (or maybe his limo??) naked, a 7 foot 300lb man, just “nutting” all over towels and what not.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jan 13, 2009 2:27 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Some would describe it as "colin's dorm room".

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Jan 13, 2009 2:29 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Colin's roommate is a 7 foot black man?

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jan 13, 2009 2:31 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

His "roommate"? Is that who he is?

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Jan 13, 2009 2:34 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Or in Ireland they call him the

“Human Chimmney Sweep”

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jan 13, 2009 2:37 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

White Sox sign Faust to 2-year deal

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/quickhits/1372599,CST-SPT-1hit12.article

3B or CF?

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jan 13, 2009 2:29 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What, no color?

Jeez, you are slipping.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Jan 13, 2009 2:35 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Internet access is heavily monitored here in Cellblock 2J on Tuesdays.

The guards make exceptions for commenting on Dye-For-Guy-Who-Is-Not-As-Good-As-Dye trade rumors, however, so I eagerly await the next of those.

by The Actual El Guapo on Jan 13, 2009 2:38 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nice to see the Sox concentrating on the important signings

"There will be surgery. It will heal. It will heal fast."- Carlos Quentin on NBC 5 News Chicago (9/5/08)

by tailgater on Jan 13, 2009 2:31 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

(Cough)
He’s regarded as a solid defender…

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jan 13, 2009 3:33 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The haunting memories of lost love.
Our eyes met across the crowded baseball diamond. I, a rich ballclub owner, and he a coquettish rightfielder. Oh, I pursued and he withdrew, then he pursued and I withdrew, and so we danced. I burned for him, much like the burning during urination that I would experience soon afterwards.

ben sheets: will throw baseball for food.

by larry on Jan 13, 2009 3:36 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   1 recs

is that from "The Notebook"?

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jan 13, 2009 3:37 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I read that in "Helter Skelter". Charlie Manson is to die for.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Jan 13, 2009 3:57 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Just ask Sharon Tate

Oops…can’t…never mind.

"There will be surgery. It will heal. It will heal fast."- Carlos Quentin on NBC 5 News Chicago (9/5/08)

by tailgater on Jan 13, 2009 4:11 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

dye
The White Sox have been asking teams for top pitching prospects for Dye but aren’t necessarily insisting that those prospects be within a year of the big leagues, as teams often do when they dangle stars. But no one has bitten yet. The Chicago Sun-Times reported the Angels could now be in the mix for Dye.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/jon_heyman/01/13/scoop.young

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jan 13, 2009 6:21 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Atlanta

With the Braves signing Lowe, saying again “we are serious this year”, shouldn’t they look hard at Dye again?

"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."

by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."

by Tdogg on Jan 13, 2009 7:08 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Kotchman, Garland, Figgins.

I don't need to look at fancy stats

to see if a guy is good or not. You might have to.

by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 30, 2008 4:16 PM CST

by omnipotent grab on Jan 13, 2009 7:57 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you forgot Juan Pierre

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jan 13, 2009 8:08 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No, we get Gathright as a PTBNL.

I don't need to look at fancy stats

to see if a guy is good or not. You might have to.

by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 30, 2008 4:16 PM CST

by omnipotent grab on Jan 13, 2009 9:01 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

young pitching

if I am to believe that is what KW is asking for. Jo Jo and some combo maybe?

"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."

by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."

by Tdogg on Jan 13, 2009 9:07 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I really think with those peripherals,

Vazquez can blossom into an ace here in Chicago. Bet on it.

www.stallingtheman.blogspot.com

by Raf on Jan 14, 2009 1:29 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

NICE!

I don't need to look at fancy stats

to see if a guy is good or not. You might have to.

by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 30, 2008 4:16 PM CST

by omnipotent grab on Jan 18, 2009 4:03 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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