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All-Time White Sox Left Fielder

We've finally made it out of the infield and this week will be voting on our All-Time outfielders.  Robin Ventura ran away with the last vote, so our current roster is as such: DH-Frank Thomas, C-Carlton Fisk, 1B-Paul Konerko, 2B-Nellie Fox, SS-Luke Appling, and now 3B-Robin Ventura.  After we have the position players finished, I'm going to make a topic in which everyone can propose batting orders.  Then we'll move on to pitchers and the manager.  Neat.  So we have five choices for left fielder today, and I decided Albert Belle won't be in the running.  Yeah he beasted in 98, and 97 was still good but he doesn't get the Dick Allen exception.  Deal with it KenWo.  On to the picks:

 

 Joe Jackson

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Shoeless Joe may have very well been a Hall of Famer.  The Sox got him from Cleveland during the 1915 season.  All he did from then til 1920 was rake.  And get involved in the Black Sox scandal.  Jackson was one of the eight players implicated and ultimately banned for life.  Seems like bullshit to me, but all I have are his numbers from that series(.375/.394/.563), you'd have to ask WU if it looked like he was throwing it.  Oh well.  He ranks first in franchise history in batting average, second in on-base, third in ops, and second in ops+.  His numbers: 648 games, 396 runs, 829 hits, 139 doubles, 79 triples, 30 homers, 426 RBI, 64 stolen bases, and a slash-line of .340/.407/.499/.906.

Bibb Falk

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And onto his replacement, a man named Bibb.  Apparently Bibb was the old team's A.J., as he earned the nickname Jockey for his merciless riding of other teams.  Nifty.  And that's right, this is the man I picked over Albert Belle.  He was a league-average fielder.  He is fifth in franchise history in batting average.  Here are his numbers from his 9 seasons with the Sox: 908 games, 1220 hits, 526 runs, 245 doubles, 50 triples, 50 homers, 627 RBI, and a slash-line of .315/.345/.442/.787.

Minnie Miñoso

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Minnie is probably the coolest old person ever.  Thanks to the great Bill Veeck, Minnie got to play major league baseball in five decades.  He was also the first black player to suit of for the Sox (1951).  His number 9 is retired and he has a statue out on the concourse.  In yet another show of Hall of Fame douchebaggery, Minnie still isn't in.  In 2005 when they made that committee to vote on Negro League players being inducted, Minnie was one of the few living players on the ballot.  He didn't make it.  Because baseball historians suck ass.  Apparently, Minnie is also a friendly enough guy that he went to Ernie Banks' statue unveiling on the other side of town.  Also, seven time All-Star.  Minnie ranks fifth in franchise history in OBP, RBI, walks, and runs.  He ranks sixth in OPS and triples.  He's fourth in OPS+, and ranks first in HBP and power/speed number.  Here are his numbers: 1,117 games, 1434 hits, 258 doubles, 78 triples, 134 homers, 802 RBI, 197 stolen bases, and a slash-line of .305/.397/.468/.865.

Tim Raines

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Meet Rock.  He played left for five seasons and then went on to first base and bench coach for us.  He's yet another White Sox left fielder being fucked over by the Hall of Fame (yeah he wouldn't go in as one of us, but he should be in).  Anyways, here's his numbers: 566 games, 130 stolen bases, 628 hits, 84 doubles, 24 triples, 44 homers, 253 RBI, and a slash-line of .283/.373/.402/.775.  Steve Phillips just said Raines shouldn't make the HoF because Brian Giles had a better OBP and is not a HoFer.  He then proceeded to say Dawson should be.  My brain just exploded.

Carlos Lee

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El Caballo went yard in his first at-bat in the majors.  He would continue to do so, ending up eighth in franchise history in home runs.  Carlos was traded for the almighty duo of Scott Podsednik and Luis Vizcaino.  Carlos was fun to watch and murderized the Cubs.  Here are his numbers: 821 games, 904 hits, 183 doubles, 141 homers, 506 RBI, and a slash-line of .288/.341/.487/.828.

 

Poll
Who is our All-Time Chicago White Sox Left Fielder?
Joe Jackson
112 votes
Bibb Falk
1 votes
Minnie MiƱoso
43 votes
Tim Raines
4 votes
Carlos Lee
4 votes

164 votes | Poll has closed

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Great El Caballo shot, UG.

(And the Minnie commentary.) Thanks for all the time you’ve put into this – it’s making the winter blow by.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Jan 13, 2009 5:51 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

thanks WU

totally makes up for you voting no when i asked if i should do this

In exchange, Galindo was to pay Martinez $16,000 and provide him with 160 cases of beer, 100 cases of soda, 50 cases of Gatorade, two cases of wine, and six cases of meat, Greenfield Police Chief Joe Grebmeier told CNN.

by U-God on Jan 13, 2009 5:55 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Fish in a barrell, fer Chrissakes.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Jan 14, 2009 11:42 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Doesn't make it less funny.

And speaking of fish in barrels…

BARREL

opos

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Jan 14, 2009 12:40 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

because otherwise it wouldn't be a poll

In exchange, Galindo was to pay Martinez $16,000 and provide him with 160 cases of beer, 100 cases of soda, 50 cases of Gatorade, two cases of wine, and six cases of meat, Greenfield Police Chief Joe Grebmeier told CNN.

by U-God on Jan 13, 2009 6:12 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Joe Jackson

can you replace his name with:

The Man, the Myth, the Legend: “Shoeless” Joe Jackson

:p

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jan 13, 2009 6:25 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yup

In exchange, Galindo was to pay Martinez $16,000 and provide him with 160 cases of beer, 100 cases of soda, 50 cases of Gatorade, two cases of wine, and six cases of meat, Greenfield Police Chief Joe Grebmeier told CNN.

by U-God on Jan 13, 2009 6:33 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

awesome!

thanks

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jan 13, 2009 6:38 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

oops, now that I think it again

I find it awesome but better take it down so it doesn’t give the impression of there being favoritism towards one of the candidates

sorry for all the trouble UG

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jan 13, 2009 8:04 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it's cool

In exchange, Galindo was to pay Martinez $16,000 and provide him with 160 cases of beer, 100 cases of soda, 50 cases of Gatorade, two cases of wine, and six cases of meat, Greenfield Police Chief Joe Grebmeier told CNN.

by U-God on Jan 13, 2009 8:06 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You are an attorney.

You have no emotion other than “schadenfreude”.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Jan 13, 2009 8:17 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

cry about it.

(hold the calls, larry’s secretary!)

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Jan 14, 2009 9:43 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Tough call

went with Minoso because cheaters are icky.

by dtv on Jan 13, 2009 6:48 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What about idiot savants?

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Jan 13, 2009 7:49 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I meant Jackson.

Stupid and he tried to rectify his error. Didn’t even get his share. From Wiki:

In recent years, evidence has come to light that casts doubt on Jackson’s role in the fix. For instance, Jackson initially refused to take a payment of $5,000, only to have Lefty Williams toss it on the floor of his hotel room. Jackson then tried to tell White Sox owner Charles Comiskey about the fix, but Comiskey refused to meet with him. Also, before Jackson’s grand jury testimony, team attorney Alfred Austrian coached Jackson’s testimony in a manner that would be considered highly unethical even by the standards of the time, and would probably be considered criminal by today’s standards. For instance, Austrian got Jackson to admit a role in the fix by pouring a large amount of whiskey down Jackson’s throat. He also got the nearly illiterate Jackson to sign a waiver of immunity. Years later, the other seven players implicated in the scandal confirmed that Jackson was never at any of the meetings. Williams, for example, said that they only mentioned Jackson’s name to give their plot more credibility.

A vote for Shoeless Joe is a vote for Justice.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Jan 13, 2009 8:16 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I got 2 words for shoeless joe.....

SUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK ITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Jan 13, 2009 8:17 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he sure played awful in the series.

clearly throwing it.

ben sheets: will throw baseball for food.

by larry on Jan 13, 2009 8:21 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It is interesting to note

that on the same Wiki page it mentions that there were an inordinant amount of triples hit to LF during the Series (implying he may have been jacking around out there) and he did a lot of his hitting when the Sox were way behind.

Sounds like JD and Thome, combined.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Jan 13, 2009 8:24 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i was sort of kidding.

i think one might notice a pattern about his play.

ben sheets: will throw baseball for food.

by larry on Jan 14, 2009 10:20 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I know.

After 30K posts you still don’t get my drift?

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Jan 14, 2009 11:28 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If you are going to support Shoeless Joe

Then you should support Pete Rose, Barry Bonds, Mark McGwire, Roger Clemens, Rafael Palmeiro, Sammy Sosa and any other goof in a scandal.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Jan 13, 2009 8:24 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I can live with that

because my heart is made of dead kittens

by Daniel Berlyn on Jan 13, 2009 8:39 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

except that Shoeless Joe can be defended

In exchange, Galindo was to pay Martinez $16,000 and provide him with 160 cases of beer, 100 cases of soda, 50 cases of Gatorade, two cases of wine, and six cases of meat, Greenfield Police Chief Joe Grebmeier told CNN.

by U-God on Jan 13, 2009 8:46 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

From what I recall, Eliot Asimof made a pretty convincing case for Jackson's involvement

in the book 8 men out. Here’s an anti-Jackson site with some of the eivdence against him http://www.roadsidephotos.com/baseball/shoelessjoe.htm

Jackson’s grand jury testimony:

  Q. Did anybody pay you any money to help throw that series in favor of Cincinnati?

A. They did.

Q. How much did they pay?

A. They promised me $20,000, and paid me five.

Q. Who paid you the $5,000?

A. Lefty Williams brought it in my room and threw it down.

Q. What did you say to Williams when he threw down the $5,000?

A. I asked him what the hell had come off here.

Q. What did he say?

A. He said Gandil said we all got a screw through Abe Attell. Gandil said that we got double crossed through Abe Attell, he got the money and refused to turn it over to him. I don’t think Gandil was crossed as much as he crossed us.

Jackson’s grand jury testimony and signed confession weren’t the only evidence against him. Even Jackson’s supporters admit that he received, and kept, $5,000, money he knew came from gamblers who bribed the Sox to throw the Series. Pitcher Ed Cicotte, whose confession broke the scandal wide open, identified Jackson as one of his co-conspirators. So did ringleader Chick Gandil, when he told his story for the first time thirty years later. These men had no reason to lie, but in their rush to paint Jackson as an innocent victim of The Evil Judge Landis, Jackson’s apologists completely ignore their statements.

by dtv on Jan 13, 2009 8:37 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

wasn't he coached on what to say?

In exchange, Galindo was to pay Martinez $16,000 and provide him with 160 cases of beer, 100 cases of soda, 50 cases of Gatorade, two cases of wine, and six cases of meat, Greenfield Police Chief Joe Grebmeier told CNN.

by U-God on Jan 13, 2009 8:47 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm not sure why he would have been coached to admit taking a bribe.

By all accounts I’m aware of, Jackson’s lawyer protected Chuck Comiskey first and foremost, but I can’t think of any motive for his lawyer to coach Jackson to falsely admit to the things Jackson testified to during his grand jury testimony. Nobody gained by Jackson admitting to taking money.

On a side note, I was leafing through Eight Men Out and came across a quote by Jackson to the press immediately after testifying. You don’t hear teammates talk like this about each other very often.

" Now Reisberg threatens to bump me off if I squawk. That’s why I’ve got the bailiffs with me… But I’m not going to get far from my protectors until this thing blows over. Swede is a hard guy."

by dtv on Jan 13, 2009 10:19 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Where is Ron Kittle and Albert Belle?

Bibb Falk and Tim Raines? Seriously?

I went with C Lee. Probably should have went with Minoso. Jackson threw the world series- fuck that guy

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Jan 13, 2009 8:08 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

well i explained albert belle in the opening paragraph

and ron kittle? really? here are his numbers as a LF

337 games, 276 hits, 44 doubles, 78 homers, 193 RBI, .230/.304/.467/.771.

that is bad and does not warrant a paragraph.

In exchange, Galindo was to pay Martinez $16,000 and provide him with 160 cases of beer, 100 cases of soda, 50 cases of Gatorade, two cases of wine, and six cases of meat, Greenfield Police Chief Joe Grebmeier told CNN.

by U-God on Jan 13, 2009 8:50 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

140 to be exact.

he is in the top 10 all time for white sox home runs, slugging percentage, home runs/at bat and of course strike outs. He won the 83 rookie of the year and was an all star. He is still a fan favorite and people have heard of him unlike Bibb Falk….. He also laid the smackdown on Barry Bonds and wrote a pretty good read on the White Sox.

And Albert Belle holds all of the single season records that are of any importance.

Maybe next time we do this we get someone who knows what the hell he is talking about to take care of it for crying out loud.

not that i don’t appreciate the effort.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Jan 13, 2009 11:12 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

FLAGGED

you should be banned for life after that comment.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Jan 14, 2009 12:32 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Why is he a douche...

He spends a lot of time on charity’s, always appears at sox events, always has seemed nice when I have met him….maybe YOU are the douche……douche.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Jan 14, 2009 5:33 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I have to say - from personal experience only last year -

he’s a good guy. On what do you base your assessment?

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Jan 14, 2009 6:42 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

the few times i've been around him he's seemed pretty self-important

above and beyond the normal, “i play/played in mlb” type of attitude expected.

by Craig Grebeck on Jan 15, 2009 12:31 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think he's just ADD-AHAD, and I'm serious.

Garralous, loves to tell stories, the most accessible guy I met last year (we still keep in touch via e-mail periodically). I don’t see the arrogance you describe at all.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Jan 15, 2009 6:55 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

uhhhhh go fuck yourself

if you are going to constantly whine and bitch about who is not on and who is…..do your own damn thing….i’m going to call randy orton and have him punt you in the head

takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm

by furby2056 on Jan 14, 2009 12:06 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I should have!

It would have been a hell of a lot better! its like comparing the work of Ultimate Warrior to Hogan….. And I of course am Hogan…..Brother!

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Jan 14, 2009 12:31 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

not while playing as a LF

half of his career was as a DH. I’m using P-I on B-R to sort players statistics into what they hit at the position that is being mentioned in each post. Those are Kittle’s numbers as a LF. He sucked big fat donkey balls. And thank you for appreciating the effort.

In exchange, Galindo was to pay Martinez $16,000 and provide him with 160 cases of beer, 100 cases of soda, 50 cases of Gatorade, two cases of wine, and six cases of meat, Greenfield Police Chief Joe Grebmeier told CNN.

by U-God on Jan 14, 2009 6:36 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

and here's a taste of his stats as a LF

http://www.baseball-reference.com/pi/shareit/7MJ9

In exchange, Galindo was to pay Martinez $16,000 and provide him with 160 cases of beer, 100 cases of soda, 50 cases of Gatorade, two cases of wine, and six cases of meat, Greenfield Police Chief Joe Grebmeier told CNN.

by U-God on Jan 14, 2009 6:42 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Fuck.

I should have voted Minoso. Maybe.

by Daniel Berlyn on Jan 13, 2009 9:25 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nah.

Bunch of rubes in the early days. Comiskey, like the other owners forever in this town, was a tightwad and didn’t even follow up on his owm players telling him the fix was in. I’d give him more rope than any of the other fucksticks KenWo mentioned, who had just a little more going for them (like, actual salaries commensurate with their revenues generated).

Apologist, but whatthehell.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Jan 14, 2009 6:11 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's just that Jackson was better with Cleveland

than he was with us… he was 2008 Pujols or better for several years with them, and for more time than with us, IIRC. Minoso has the counting stats and the coolness. He was our guy.

by Daniel Berlyn on Jan 14, 2009 7:49 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So I found a website

that once we have our nine hitters, I can just plug their names, obp, and slg in and it will make the best lineup for us by r/pg. I messed with it a little last night throwing in who I figured to win the next two races and we’re on pace to crack 900 runs. With two player swaps, we could have cracked 1000.

In exchange, Galindo was to pay Martinez $16,000 and provide him with 160 cases of beer, 100 cases of soda, 50 cases of Gatorade, two cases of wine, and six cases of meat, Greenfield Police Chief Joe Grebmeier told CNN.

by U-God on Jan 14, 2009 6:39 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Would one be Eddie Collins for Nellie Fox?

Hmmm.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Jan 14, 2009 7:13 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

perhaps

In exchange, Galindo was to pay Martinez $16,000 and provide him with 160 cases of beer, 100 cases of soda, 50 cases of Gatorade, two cases of wine, and six cases of meat, Greenfield Police Chief Joe Grebmeier told CNN.

by U-God on Jan 14, 2009 2:29 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

not exactly a poor defensive team.

ben sheets: will throw baseball for food.

by larry on Jan 14, 2009 10:22 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

grossly.

ben sheets: will throw baseball for food.

by larry on Jan 14, 2009 12:29 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

in every lineup the site made

he bats ninth

In exchange, Galindo was to pay Martinez $16,000 and provide him with 160 cases of beer, 100 cases of soda, 50 cases of Gatorade, two cases of wine, and six cases of meat, Greenfield Police Chief Joe Grebmeier told CNN.

by U-God on Jan 14, 2009 2:30 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Collins was a solid defender as well

so not really

In exchange, Galindo was to pay Martinez $16,000 and provide him with 160 cases of beer, 100 cases of soda, 50 cases of Gatorade, two cases of wine, and six cases of meat, Greenfield Police Chief Joe Grebmeier told CNN.

by U-God on Jan 15, 2009 6:41 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he was reputed to be far more than solid.

and he’d have had to have been pablo ozuna in the field to make it even close considering his offense.

"When I began playing the game, baseball was about as gentlemanly as a kick in the crotch."

by larry on Jan 15, 2009 9:46 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

MADE IT MA! TOP OF THE WORLD!

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Jan 15, 2009 4:58 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I remember that. Because he'll see more fastballs, right?

"A good cigar is like a beautiful chick with a great body who also knows the American League box scores. "
Klinger

by Chiburb on Jan 14, 2009 12:23 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

whats that website?

it might be worth a look.

This is what I love about White Sox fans... You guys have so much fun venom!
by SullyBaseball

by e-gus on Jan 14, 2009 12:35 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

here you go

http://www.baseballmusings.com/cgi-bin/LineupAnalysis.py

it’s pretty fun

In exchange, Galindo was to pay Martinez $16,000 and provide him with 160 cases of beer, 100 cases of soda, 50 cases of Gatorade, two cases of wine, and six cases of meat, Greenfield Police Chief Joe Grebmeier told CNN.

by U-God on Jan 14, 2009 2:30 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Should keep in mind

Minnie probably lost some very good productive young seasons due to race, so his stats skew older (worse) than a comparable white player of his same age/ability/era, though I suppose that doesn’t really matter when only considering his career with the sox

by HAR--OLD on Jan 14, 2009 9:18 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Rob Neyer took a look at this

and ran the projections to add in the extra seasons he would have missed. If minoso has been honest about his age, he’s probably a hall of famer. However, he was lying about his age (and admited it), so he most likely missed his “developing” years where he wouldn’t have aided his slash stats and would not have poured much into his counting stats.

It is a crime he lost those seasons, but they are not as valuable as originally thought.

by coffeepac on Jan 14, 2009 12:52 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i have a question:

where is Q! ?

This is what I love about White Sox fans... You guys have so much fun venom!
by SullyBaseball

by e-gus on Jan 14, 2009 10:07 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

By the same token,

how about the Road Runner, Ralph Garr? I loved that guy for one season.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Jan 14, 2009 11:32 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

retired to Ron Blumberg's rocking chair.

"A good cigar is like a beautiful chick with a great body who also knows the American League box scores. "
Klinger

by Chiburb on Jan 14, 2009 11:39 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

seriously though re Garr...

I remember being excited about him coming to the Sox. The I saw him try to beat out a bunt and was amazed at how slow he appeared going to first. Sorry we got him too late…

"A good cigar is like a beautiful chick with a great body who also knows the American League box scores. "
Klinger

by Chiburb on Jan 14, 2009 11:42 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

thanks man

In exchange, Galindo was to pay Martinez $16,000 and provide him with 160 cases of beer, 100 cases of soda, 50 cases of Gatorade, two cases of wine, and six cases of meat, Greenfield Police Chief Joe Grebmeier told CNN.

by U-God on Jan 14, 2009 2:31 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No love for Rudy Law, huh?

Remember: They’re not booing, they’re chanting Ruuu … oh, wait, actually they are booing. Carry on.

by The Actual El Guapo on Jan 14, 2009 2:47 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I can't even vote Scottie 2 Hottie!?

All he ever did for for the franchise was CARRY IT ON HIS BACK TO A WORLD SERIES. Christ on a bike.

If you have nothing to add to the discussion. Continue sniffing glue.

by defensive indifference on Jan 14, 2009 10:27 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Note: I voted Bibb Falk in protest.

If you have nothing to add to the discussion. Continue sniffing glue.

by defensive indifference on Jan 14, 2009 10:27 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   2 recs

Rec'd.

Bibb = Ralph Nader.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Jan 15, 2009 6:56 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Huzzy

What about Carlos May? Too few games in left?

by Dick15 on Jan 14, 2009 10:50 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

nah he played about half a season more than Raines worth of games

he just would have had a lower ops than everyone else on here. it was just kind of an oversight. i really wanted to write about raines the day after the HoF fucked him

In exchange, Galindo was to pay Martinez $16,000 and provide him with 160 cases of beer, 100 cases of soda, 50 cases of Gatorade, two cases of wine, and six cases of meat, Greenfield Police Chief Joe Grebmeier told CNN.

by U-God on Jan 15, 2009 6:44 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hey guys

the CF installment is gonna be late. turns out i have a sinus infection and have been asleep for 5 hours and i’m really not feeling up to it. i promise i’ll have it up tomorrow afternoon

In exchange, Galindo was to pay Martinez $16,000 and provide him with 160 cases of beer, 100 cases of soda, 50 cases of Gatorade, two cases of wine, and six cases of meat, Greenfield Police Chief Joe Grebmeier told CNN.

by U-God on Jan 15, 2009 6:33 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

don't sweat it U-God

just don’t pull a colin on us!

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jan 15, 2009 6:56 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

U-God

still got the green boogeys or what?

Hopefully you havent run out of kleenex and are almost back in action.

This is what I love about White Sox fans... You guys have so much fun venom!
by SullyBaseball

by e-gus on Jan 19, 2009 1:30 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ralph Garr not even on the ballot?

well, i know you can’t put freaking everybody on the ballot, but he was sure fun to watch…kind of a carlos lee light when it came to fly balls

by Serpiente on Jan 19, 2009 3:56 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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