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White Sox About to Sign Colon, For Reals

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WSChamps05 can rest easy tonight. The Sox have apparently made a free agent move, signing the oft-injured, and perpetually overweight Bartolo Colon to a contract of indeterminate value.

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Sox fans should be very familiar with Colon, having watched him as a member of the Sox in '03, during which he posted a 3.87 ERA over a career-high 242 innings pitched. The Sox wanted to keep him around, offering him the longest, richest contract they had ever offered to a pitcher at that point. But they may have dodged a bullet, even though Colon would go on to win a(n undeserved) Cy Young award in '05, as Colon fell apart in his final two seasons in Anaheim. He has battled back issues over the past three years, logging just 195 innings since winning the Cy Young.

A year ago, after pitchers and catchers had already reported to camp, Impacto Deportivo reported the Sox to have signed Colon pending a physical. Ozzie Guillen had personally scouted Colon in winter ball, but the Sox denied the reports. A week or two later, Colon signed with Boston on a split contract which allowed for him to become a free agent once again if he wasn't in the Red Sox starting rotation by mid-May.

Colon was said to be topping out at about 90 MPH in those winter outings, but he picked it up to the low-90's in his extended spring training with the BoSox. By the time he got the call from the big club, Colon was sitting in the low-90's and touching mid-90's, topping out at 96MPH.

Colon's back problems returned when he swung a bat in his 6/16 start, where the velocity readings in the chart below are skewed as MLB Gameday classified all of his fastballs as changeups. He was placed on the 60-day DL, and made only one more start for the Sawks, leaving the team when they wanted to move him in the bullpen.

Bartolo Colon's '08 GameLog

Date IP H R BB K Avg Velo
5/21 5 6 2 2 4 92.1
5/26 7 5 1 1 4 93.6
6/1 6 7 4 2 5 92.8
6/6 5 8 6 1 2 92.1
6/11 6 5 1 1 7 91.6
6/16 4 6 4 2 4 82.4*
9/13 6 7 5 1 1 91.4

I haven't mentioned Colon in this space, but he was second (behind Pedro Martinez) on my own internal list of a low-salary, low-risk, high-reward type of pitchers available on the free agent market. I have mentioned a few times that the Sox were in need of someone to fill the '05 Orlando Hernandez role of old, good-when-healthy pitcher who can keep a spot in the rotation warm for the return of Jose Contreras or the eventual rise of Aaron Poreda.

Yes, Colon will most likely get injured in '09. But he's a far better pitcher (when healthy) than [Starter Candidate 5], and any move that pushes [Starter Candidate 5] farther down the depth chart is a good move in my book. I feel a lot more comfortable in the Sox rotation today than I did yesterday even though it still contains a few too many question marks for my liking and I'm not 100% confident in Colon himself.

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Jenks vs Colon

Cannonball contest? Veeck woulda done it!

Bloggin'

http://bierjournal.blogspot.com/

by Six Pack on Jan 14, 2009 11:57 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it's a triple threat.....coop is in on this too

takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm

by furby2056 on Jan 15, 2009 12:01 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

thirded.

takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm

by furby2056 on Jan 15, 2009 12:01 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

4thed

And he helps to fill the Uribe void. So to speak.

by palehose67 on Jan 15, 2009 9:07 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I am a fan of Colon.

If we could sneak a season out of him I think we could have just hit the jackpot. He pitched pretty well for the Red Sox in his limited time last year. He used to be a horse…Maybe he has another year in him.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Jan 15, 2009 12:23 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

EPL shows how to spend money

Manchester City are reportedly on the verge of signing Kaka for $150 million, and that’s before they pay him any wages which is gonna be a four year deal at a million dollars a week, that’s a $350 million dollar investment (in total) on one player.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_city/7830199.stm

number one when it mattered!

by hoodlight on Jan 15, 2009 5:05 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

what a great last name

In exchange, Galindo was to pay Martinez $16,000 and provide him with 160 cases of beer, 100 cases of soda, 50 cases of Gatorade, two cases of wine, and six cases of meat, Greenfield Police Chief Joe Grebmeier told CNN.

by U-God on Jan 15, 2009 6:44 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hey, I have a Kaka AC Milan jersey

I picked up in Rome last year. It gets the occasional snicker.

I'm like a laser, six-string razor. I've got a mouth like an alligator

by Nordhagen on Jan 15, 2009 10:51 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he rejected that offer.... he said he wanted to play the rest of his career at milan

larry has that system down to a science. Especially with the way the economy is….big wigs like larry coming in dressed in their mink coats and 24k gold cigarrete holders with pockets lined with coke make for a large draw during shift changes.
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs

by Jbasic89 on Jan 15, 2009 7:06 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

nope, this news is post that statement
Bowen revealed: "I’ve read a lot about his love of AC Milan – and that goes without saying – but even when people said the deal was dead, that was not our understanding.

"We are still hopeful of still signing Kaka.

"The situation has been a surprise to everyone but obviously negotiations have been going on for a fair while.

number one when it mattered!

by hoodlight on Jan 15, 2009 7:15 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

didn't Kaka turn down offers from Real and Chelsea?

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jan 15, 2009 1:12 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it's not up to him

If Real accept the bid, he will go

number one when it mattered!

by hoodlight on Jan 15, 2009 1:15 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

sorry Milan

number one when it mattered!

by hoodlight on Jan 15, 2009 1:15 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

r u sure?

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=609872&sec=transfers&campaign=rss&source=soccernet&&cc=5901

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jan 15, 2009 2:18 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Keehrist, stay away from money issues, Wiz. 107 million pounds is about $160MM.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Jan 15, 2009 3:14 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

wiz 'hearts' google

:p

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jan 15, 2009 6:14 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh, my bad. Wrong issue.

Lo siento. Carry on.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Jan 15, 2009 3:15 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

just been on the wireless

they have made an official bid of $160 million, there’s no way that Milan will turn that kind of money down.

number one when it mattered!

by hoodlight on Jan 15, 2009 1:20 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

is that euros, pounds, or dollars?

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jan 15, 2009 1:36 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

dollars that's why I used a dollar sign

the last time I did pounds on here people complained, so I did the conversion for you

number one when it mattered!

by hoodlight on Jan 15, 2009 1:44 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

thanks hoodie

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jan 15, 2009 2:18 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

are those blokes any good/reliable?

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/football/view/65966/Kaka-See-you-in-the-summer/

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jan 15, 2009 6:41 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This is exactly the kind of thing I was looking for

Some low risk veterans to fill the holes for a year until we get rid of payroll and we know which young players are going to be legit replacements. I really like what KW has done this offseason. So what does everyone think we need to do? Assuming no major moves like trading Jermaine Dye, this is all I see left:

-Add another pitcher (similar to a Pedro / Colon)
-Back up catcher
-CF Depth, if there is an injury prone CF / or guy on his last year of a deal I think he’d be a good fit, but not sure besides maybe Mike Cameron, there are many guys out there who fit this role. If I knew for sure I could trust Ozzie to go with Anderson instead of Owens I wouldn’t think this is a need.
-Most important, a more Relaxed Dress code.. baseball players hit better in sweat pants, long hair, bad facial hair and a T-Shirt. Reinsdorf needs to get off his high horse.

by Grinder in Training on Jan 15, 2009 8:47 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Why not just sign

 Everett, Sandy Alomar and Robbie Alomar while were at it. That should all of our holes and maybe we can get more insight from Carl on dinosaurs, the moon, etc.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jan 15, 2009 9:25 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And that foot is you.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Jan 15, 2009 5:36 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Id be happy with

Garcia
Blanco
I dont see any option I like for CF depth outside of trade

"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."

by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."

by Tdogg on Jan 15, 2009 9:37 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Jim Edmonds?

Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.

by colintj on Jan 15, 2009 9:41 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I thought about him but might he ask for too much?

What’s his defense like these days?

"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."

by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."

by Tdogg on Jan 15, 2009 9:48 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

not good.

"When I began playing the game, baseball was about as gentlemanly as a kick in the crotch."

by larry on Jan 15, 2009 9:55 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I just looked it up

no thanks.

"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."

by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."

by Tdogg on Jan 15, 2009 9:56 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You know what burns me a little?

I will beat a dead horse again, but erase the Swisher trade.
Sign Colon and Garcia and I am extremely happy.

"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."

by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."

by Tdogg on Jan 15, 2009 10:01 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

when i dumpster dive in this environment, i'd expect to get something a little fresher.

"When I began playing the game, baseball was about as gentlemanly as a kick in the crotch."

by larry on Jan 15, 2009 10:02 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

curious

What do you think Jones signs for and does he go back to the Braves.

"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."

by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."

by Tdogg on Jan 15, 2009 10:02 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

league minimum. no one is going to claim him or anything and there's really no incentive to pay him more.

"When I began playing the game, baseball was about as gentlemanly as a kick in the crotch."

by larry on Jan 15, 2009 10:04 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

by the way, diving into some prospect reading in the next couple weeks

I’d like to become a bit more knowledgeable here. Which book would you recommend if I bought just one? Anyone who have read them in past what do you think?

"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."

by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."

by Tdogg on Jan 15, 2009 10:10 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i read sickels' book and deric mckamey's book.

probably the former if just one.

"When I began playing the game, baseball was about as gentlemanly as a kick in the crotch."

by larry on Jan 15, 2009 10:12 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

baseball america is a joke.

all you need to do is look at who evaluates the white sox prospects for them.

"When I began playing the game, baseball was about as gentlemanly as a kick in the crotch."

by larry on Jan 15, 2009 2:39 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I agree....

but is it REALLY JUST rOGERS? i MEAN, DOESN’T ba HAVE TO SIGN OFF ON IT….I MEAN, IT’S THEIR PUBLICATION ON THE LINE. i DO KIND OF AGREE THAT IT SUCKS, THOUGH, WHEN i THINK ABOUT rOGER’S TOP 30 OVER THE YEARS…..THEN AGAIN….MOST TEAMS MIGHT LOOK THE SAME WAY…..IT’S REALLY TOUGH ONCE YOU GET BY ALMOST ANY ORGANIZATION’S TOP 10.

by dantesox on Jan 15, 2009 2:42 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Where exactly do you look while you type?

EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine

by Sox Machine on Jan 15, 2009 3:15 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   1 recs

It's like reading A Clockwork Orange.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Jan 15, 2009 3:16 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

the sox could sign willie mays to the minimum, too.

i’d bet trotting him out there would put a lot more asses in the seats, too, regardless of production. because it’s willie fucking mays.

you’re obviously in the camp of andruw jones still has something left. seems specious to me but we’ll see, i’m sure.

"When I began playing the game, baseball was about as gentlemanly as a kick in the crotch."

by larry on Jan 15, 2009 2:43 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Honestly, I don't have a clue if he does.

But, christ, he’s only what, 32? And when I saw highlights of him with the Dodgers yesterday, he didn’t look nearly as fat as I thought. And, yes….he would slightly, I think, help with interest and attendance. I f the Sox brass think there’s even a remote chance, I’d be all for it.

by dantesox on Jan 15, 2009 2:45 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i do enjoy watching fat people try to play sports.

"When I began playing the game, baseball was about as gentlemanly as a kick in the crotch."

by larry on Jan 15, 2009 2:46 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

With Colon and Garcia, you're about ot be able to.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Jan 15, 2009 3:00 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

pitching isn't really a sport.

i want to see them run around and chase after things and stuff.

i will no longer laugh at the directions for a water landing.

by larry on Jan 15, 2009 3:02 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You don't like bowling, then?

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Jan 15, 2009 3:03 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

no.

i will no longer laugh at the directions for a water landing.

by larry on Jan 15, 2009 3:04 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

YOU WANT ANDRUW? YOU CAN HAVE 'IM!

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/9034420/Dodgers-release-Andruw-Jones

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Jan 15, 2009 8:03 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

players come back

I’d say it is open to debate

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jan 15, 2009 6:16 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Man I don't think so dante

He was freaking brutal last year and was a serious hindrance to LA

"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."

by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."

by Tdogg on Jan 15, 2009 2:46 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you'd have to think you can fix him.

first, you’d have to know you could get him back into shape. i’m not sure the white sox are the organization for him to best do that – seems like maybe atlanta would be, though i don’t have any particular insight. second, you’d have to think that you can fix whatever the problem beyond fitness was – because the issue was certainly more than his weight and his knees. with greg walker in charge, i’m not sure i buy that either.

"When I began playing the game, baseball was about as gentlemanly as a kick in the crotch."

by larry on Jan 15, 2009 2:49 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

But I think only because of the salary.

Look, I ain’t clamoring for hiM. I’m just sayin’…

by dantesox on Jan 15, 2009 2:49 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

after the house cleaning of attitude problems this offseason

i’m having trouble envisioning this working.

"When I began playing the game, baseball was about as gentlemanly as a kick in the crotch."

by larry on Jan 15, 2009 2:50 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeah. exactly.

Why deal with it? I get the cheap part, but I’m afraid of the real damage he’d do in his limited abs. Hell he WORSE than Owens last year. lol.

"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."

by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."

by Tdogg on Jan 15, 2009 2:53 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Rickey still wants to play ball.

WTF! I bet he’s cheap.

Fer Chrissakes. We’re moving to let the young ones in – you want Jones, who hasn’t had a thing to offer in 2 years, over BA or Owens? Quit looking at the baseball card picture and LOOK AT THE GUY!

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Jan 15, 2009 3:05 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Andruw Jones doesn't have abs at all, fool.

They disintegrated from all the gat damned tacos.

by Daniel Berlyn on Jan 17, 2009 3:13 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

so you don't think a 400 PA/300 PA Edmonds/Anderson platoon would be a

decent investment?

Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.

by colintj on Jan 15, 2009 10:19 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you're running the team now, huh.

good luck displacing owens.

"When I began playing the game, baseball was about as gentlemanly as a kick in the crotch."

by larry on Jan 15, 2009 10:23 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i'll do my damndest

Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.

by colintj on Jan 15, 2009 10:24 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

lol

No need to the groin will take him out!

"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."

by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."

by Tdogg on Jan 15, 2009 10:27 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well its better than Owens/Anderson

But assuming Dye stays I don’t think I’d want to give much money to Edmonds.

"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."

by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."

by Tdogg on Jan 15, 2009 10:26 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i think the word is out that old people aren't worth it

so i think there may well be surplus value there. otoh, he played pretty well for the Cubs last year and traditionally the “what have you done for me lately” attitude was the dominant theme.

Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.

by colintj on Jan 15, 2009 10:29 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

with anderson, owens, and wise

i don’t see the sox signing another outfielder, perhaps even if dye is moved.

"When I began playing the game, baseball was about as gentlemanly as a kick in the crotch."

by larry on Jan 15, 2009 10:30 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

plz no owens

:(

Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.

by colintj on Jan 15, 2009 10:39 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

XBH

and lots of em!

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Jan 15, 2009 10:41 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think that's probably right

I think Owens is the plan. And if Dye is traded, I think the Sox like Wise a lot as a starting corner OF for a year.

Honestly, if the Sox sign Garcia I think they are done acquiring major league players this offseason. Although Dye and/or Fields could still get moved, it will be for prospects I think.

by hitlesswonder on Jan 15, 2009 10:59 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Don't have they have to sign a catcher?

They can’t go into the season with what they have can they?

by Grinder in Training on Jan 15, 2009 11:36 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

they could

just wouldn’t have the traditional R/L platoon . . . I am sure they have liked what they have seen with Armstrong and very well may be willing to give him a shot.

by jc2313 on Jan 15, 2009 11:41 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

backup catchers are overrated.

i don’t recall the white sox even carrying one the past few seasons. maybe ozuna? but certainly not after he was released.

"When I began playing the game, baseball was about as gentlemanly as a kick in the crotch."

by larry on Jan 15, 2009 11:46 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

from what I've read about Cole's defense

he’s probably replacement level even with his shitty bat. but i would like to take some at bats away from AJ if a better alternative to could be found.

Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.

by colintj on Jan 15, 2009 11:52 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well, maybe....

If the Sox were close to contending for a playoff spot, I’d really like to see a righty C that could hit a little picked up. AJ is on the precipice of being bad and someone to shore up the position even a little over a .600 OPS backup would be great.

But the Sox aren’t realistically close to competing for the playoffs, so I can see just punting on a backup C and saving money.

And historically, the Sox have been happy with pretty bad backup Cs. I fondly remember when they went into a season with a non-Molina brother Molina as backup…

by hitlesswonder on Jan 15, 2009 12:52 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeah actually

it might make more sense to get as much out of AJ’s contract as we can. his biggest asset right now is his durability.

Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.

by colintj on Jan 15, 2009 1:02 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I agree. AJ's value is somewhat immeasurable.

What happened to T-Flo?
Wasn’t he our up n coming back-up/catcher?
I probably missed something, and YES larry, I am commenting here before doing any research.
:)

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Jan 15, 2009 2:06 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he's the catcher of the future

but he hasn’t played an inning in AA yet. armstrong will be a solid backup by the time (if/when) flowers is ready. if he sticks at catcher, i bet he’ll see some DH too.

Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.

by colintj on Jan 15, 2009 2:16 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I am the Chef of the Future.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Jan 15, 2009 3:05 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You are an old man, sir.

Good on you.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Jan 15, 2009 3:35 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Can you

sharpen a knife?

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Jan 15, 2009 5:37 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hoytsstash will 2nd that....

"wow, yeah. cubs ST should be awesome. have a great time."
-by Larry on Jan. 9, 2009 3:09 PM PST

by Hoytsstash on Jan 15, 2009 8:33 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Joe Biemel

would be a nice addition

by jc2313 on Jan 15, 2009 10:08 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Last graf - yes! I'd rather put my trust into an injured but powerful veteran, over Starter Candidate 5.

I feel more secure in our rotation now too. Experience, control, and some heat.

Let’s hope he can stay healthy until our other old guy comes back to us.

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Jan 15, 2009 8:59 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Let's just sign all the old guys with something left in the tank that aren't type A.

And we’ll just have a 9 man rotation throw 3 IP and then stretch them out as we get casualties. The survivors get the most IP. This way we max the upside, protect Danks and have the most entertaining rotation since Smoltz-Maddux-Glavine-Avery

Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.

by colintj on Jan 15, 2009 9:18 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

for reference:

CHONE free agent starters sorted by R/9. cot’s has FA type.

Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.

by colintj on Jan 15, 2009 9:21 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'd like to have Colon step on a scale before giving Hosannas

to the signing. If he gives us 3-4 QS’s at the start of the season and then gets hurt all of these wondrous “what a great signing – let’s just get him to June” comments will morph into “IDIOTS! WHY DID WE SIGN THIS COW!”

Let him do a couple of sit-ups first, and sign a clause stating that he won’t touch a bat, and I’ll be more sanguine.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Jan 15, 2009 10:02 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I heard he gets a Wii Fit game after his physical.

"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."

by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."

by Tdogg on Jan 15, 2009 10:04 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

"IDIOTS! WHY DID WE SIGN THIS COW!"

LOL!

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jan 15, 2009 1:52 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

re: CG

i got around to it yesterday and found out the recording is totally fucked up. a perfect coda to my semester. let the hail of boos commence. and seriously. chris getz is not anywhere chopped up in a basement. that wouldn’t be an efficient use of space. jerry owens needs to go somewhere.

Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.

by colintj on Jan 15, 2009 10:27 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I am shocked we will not be reading the interview.

My faith in humanity is destroyed.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Jan 15, 2009 10:53 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

FAIL

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jan 15, 2009 10:53 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Lessons learned

1) Always take notes, because
2) Recorders are great until they don’t work.
3) Turn it around immediately so you can CQ the info.

EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine

by Sox Machine on Jan 15, 2009 11:00 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ya think

"When I began playing the game, baseball was about as gentlemanly as a kick in the crotch."

by larry on Jan 15, 2009 11:13 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I learned all that shit in Intro to Journalism.

WTF, Colin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!????
You need to smoke less dope. (ctj, not you, Jim).

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Jan 15, 2009 11:17 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

cocaine is a hell of a drug

Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.

by colintj on Jan 15, 2009 11:36 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Someone Twitter Joe Cowley

I’m not sure if he knows all of this.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jan 15, 2009 11:19 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

getztease

I was in the shit too!

by thecip on Jan 15, 2009 11:27 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

umm . . .sure.

2 months and that is the creative story we get? C’mon, try harder and give us something good.

by jc2313 on Jan 15, 2009 11:45 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

nope

Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.

by colintj on Jan 15, 2009 11:53 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you'll never make it in this business if you can't concoct elaborate lies.

"When I began playing the game, baseball was about as gentlemanly as a kick in the crotch."

by larry on Jan 15, 2009 11:59 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Now that I've stopped "booing"......

How did it take you 3 or 4 months to simply figure out the recording was whack???

:)

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Jan 15, 2009 2:08 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

see above.

cocaine. strippers. the usual distractions.

Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.

by colintj on Jan 15, 2009 2:17 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

colin can always secure employment at Bank of America or Citi.

"These loans are gold! GOLD! Wait ’til you see them in a month, Mr. Paulson!

Um, they’re really worthless. Can I have my taxpayer-funded bonus now?"

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Jan 15, 2009 7:48 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The only thing worse than making mistakes,

is making excuses.

So, if I am reading the two options correctly . . .
we can either a) keep dye or b) trade dye . . . is that you Phil Rogers?

by jc2313 on Dec 11, 2008 4:53 PM CST up reply recommended Unrec 1

by Where Triples Go to Die on Jan 16, 2009 8:28 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

so true.

Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.

by colintj on Jan 16, 2009 10:13 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I hear Ozzie has also been scouting David Wells and Esteban Loaiza

so look out A.L. Central!

"There will be surgery. It will heal. It will heal fast."- Carlos Quentin on NBC 5 News Chicago (9/5/08)

by tailgater on Jan 15, 2009 11:24 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Am I the only idiot that is less than thrilled with Freddy + Bart

and would rather have either Smoltz or Penny? Are we taking a large pass on 2009, waiting for our farm to hopefully sharpen the skills of our young talent?

It’s gonna be a long summer if we are dancing with only these pieces. Of course, I said the same thing last year (until Che was signed – but even then only thought we were .500 material).

Also, is it about time to start the “what’s our record in 2009?” predictions, akin to last year’s contest? I bet WTGTD is still waiting for his 2008 prize.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Jan 15, 2009 11:24 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hey, at least DJ is oughta the TV Booth.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jan 15, 2009 11:32 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i think there's probably a little cognitive dissonance going on

but there are a lot of acceptable directions Kenny could go in. i think there’s still more to do but this in isolation is a fine move and it easily fits into a number of different plans. for one, i think they’re waiting to see what happens with OC. and I’m sure they’re trying to see what kind of value JD can be had for. WOTS is they want young pitchers. it really does make sense to trade JD if this team isn’t definitely going to compete in the Central. get prospects, sign his approx equiv to play right in Dunn or whoever.

this team was getting bloated and trending badly as far as dollars/win go. i mean the Twins are spending half of what we are for the same performance.

Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.

by colintj on Jan 15, 2009 11:35 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

and those rays!

mark buehrle costs more than the entire franchise is worth. or thereabouts.

"When I began playing the game, baseball was about as gentlemanly as a kick in the crotch."

by larry on Jan 15, 2009 11:39 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

(Turns Southward and gazes. Turns back to the cold, unforgiving, tightwad North. Shoulders droop.

Turns back to the South. Smiles.)

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Jan 15, 2009 11:45 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that man was nice.

"When I began playing the game, baseball was about as gentlemanly as a kick in the crotch."

by larry on Jan 15, 2009 11:47 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Given the likely $ involved . . .

I would rather not have Smoltz or Penny.

by jc2313 on Jan 15, 2009 11:47 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I guess ugly

But Boston is flush with cash and take those type of chances. I wouldn’t give five million to Smoltz, no way.

"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."

by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."

by Tdogg on Jan 15, 2009 11:48 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I hope Smoltz'z shoulder finds its way through a wood chipper

I might throw up a little bit every time I look at his B-R page and see the blemish of “2009 42 BOS AL 0 1 3” or something

by Daniel Berlyn on Jan 17, 2009 3:25 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think 2009 is being punted on...

But the Sox can’t make that clear publicly.

On the plus side if Bart has a good run he can be flipped for a prospect to a contender probably….

by hitlesswonder on Jan 15, 2009 12:56 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Signing aging, injured

formerly good SPs to one year flier deals is not usually a sign of a team punting on a season. If that was really the belief, they would be better served stashing the money until next year or investing it in the draft.

Therefore, his would be an awful signing if that was truly the internal position.

by jc2313 on Jan 15, 2009 1:14 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's basically a rebuild on the fly

if everything goes right — Danks and Floyd don’t drop off, Colon/Contreras/Richard/Marquez prove to be able to be decent fourth and fifth starters, Quentin and Che continue their greatness, none of the old offensive core declines significantly — I can see them competing in the AL Central, but not much beyond that. They’re still significantly behind all three of the AL East teams, worse than the Halos and arguably behind Toronto and Oakland, too. That doesn’t even mention the four other teams in our division.

My focus this year will be moreso on the guys in the minors — Flowers and Beckham need to kick some ass and it’d be nice if Viciedo and Allen did the same. It’d also be nice if someone went from the category of ‘interesting’ (Shelby, Danks, one of those pitchers we drafted last year whose names I can’t think of right now) had a breakout year to shoot up the list and distinguish themselves.

by CWSKeith on Jan 15, 2009 1:51 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah...that's what I was trying to say...

The Sox can’t nakedly abandon 2009, but they are clearly rebuilding. They aren’t making trades for the benefit of 2009. They aren’t going out and trying to sign Ben Sheets. A signing like Colon helps there be some chance of being competitive this season and he isn’t blocking anyone and may be flippable. It’s fine but signing a guy like that to be your #4 starter isn’t the move a contending team makes.

I think Kenny knows he’s going to have to compete with lower payrolls going forward and acquiring Flowers and pouring more money into the draft and Viciedo are a result of that. I think Williams will be focussed on the minors as well…

by hitlesswonder on Jan 15, 2009 2:12 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No I don't think so....

By “punting” I didn’t mean that they were doing a Marlins-style rebuild. I meant they they weren’t putting much effort into making the 2009 team competitive. They have dealt Swisher and Vazquez for prospects, making the 2009 team worse for the sake of the future. I did say they can’t go Marlins because the press would flay them. Rebuilding “on the fly” fits that pretty well I thought, but maybe it means something different.

by hitlesswonder on Jan 15, 2009 2:38 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Swisher wasn't dealt for prospects . . .

Betemit is clearly not a prospect and they clearly think Marquez is MLB ready as well. I consider punting a season giving up any hope of competing . . . maybe I’m in the minority there, just don’t think that is the sentiment at all and signing a 1 year flier on an aging SP would make little sense in that scenario.

by jc2313 on Jan 15, 2009 2:50 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

marquez is a prospect. what are you going on about.

"When I began playing the game, baseball was about as gentlemanly as a kick in the crotch."

by larry on Jan 15, 2009 2:53 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You obviously are out of the loop

and forgot after his first side session in the Spring Ozzie will exclaim, “man his stuff looks great.”

By the way in advance. Colon looks unreal after his spring side session, “what a bargain!”

"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."

by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."

by Tdogg on Jan 15, 2009 3:07 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he's in the best shape of his life.

i will no longer laugh at the directions for a water landing.

by larry on Jan 15, 2009 3:08 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Obviously, not interested in watching him play sports.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Jan 15, 2009 3:08 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

JC

U stay keeping it real!

So, if I am reading the two options correctly . . .
we can either a) keep dye or b) trade dye . . . is that you Phil Rogers?

by jc2313 on Dec 11, 2008 4:53 PM CST up reply recommended Unrec 1

by Where Triples Go to Die on Jan 16, 2009 8:31 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

They are rebuilding on the fly as most have said

Nope not punting. Just heard Verducci on the radio on my way to the bank. Actually one of the few times he made sense or sounded intelligent. He made the correct point about building the team to win the division not the World Series. The Central is winnable. It is possible for KW to “get away” with trying this with the competition. If the pale hose were in the East, cancel Christmas.

"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."

by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."

by Tdogg on Jan 15, 2009 3:00 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I disagree

I think the Sox know they are going have trouble competing in 2009 and have known so for a while based on their budget. Having $10M on the shelf in Contreras and the Tucson money plus having to contract payroll a little makes it hard to fill holes without a bunch of star minor leaguers available.

Signing Colon does 2 things:

1) It allows the Sox to plausibly claim they are competing to the media and the general fanbase.
2) Williams wants to give the Sox a small chance to compete if everything breaks right and they know Marquez isn’t going to offer them that chance.

If the Sox really thought they had a strong team this season, they wouldn’t be willing to trade Dye for pitchers there are still far from the majors. They wouldn’t have traded Vazquez for a package including no major league players. They aren’t going for it this season, but they can’t publicly doing anything that will look like a go with the kids Marlins sell-off.

by hitlesswonder on Jan 15, 2009 2:06 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Really?

Signing Colon allows them to state that? I think the people are few and far between who actually believe this signing has somehow taken them from a non competing team to a competing team. Do you really think there is a large group of people out there thinking . . . wow, thought they were punting this season . . . now they are competing! Don’t see it. And that would just strenghen my point that this would be an idiotic signing if they were thinking this was a season being punted. Catering to the ‘public’ with a signing such as this would be detrimental to the future of the team and contradict their very goals of competing in said future.

Additionally . . . trading Dye for pitchers far from the majors?? Must have missed that deal. The only ‘supposed’ deal that close to going down was the Homer Bailey deal and he is MLB ready, not far from the majors. Anyway, all unsubstantiated rumors, so kind of hard to just blindly state that Kenny would trade Dye for pitchers far from the majors.

Finally, Vazquez was as good as gone after the final few weeks of the season . . . so, Kenny traded him for the best value he could which happened to be a package centered on Flowers.

by jc2313 on Jan 15, 2009 2:35 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We've established we disagree...

I not going to find the link, but someone wrote recently that Dye was being shopped for young minor league pitching. Just a rumor so you could be right. But Vazquez in all likelihood could have been traded for major league talent…the Sox supposedly passed on Reyes being included in the deal. Kenny has stated that trading Swisher allowed them to sign Viciedo. The reality is that they have made 2009 weaker for the sake of the future…what does make it seem like the plan is?

You seem to think that signing Colon implies the Sox are competing, so apparently that move is working from a PR standpoint.

by hitlesswonder on Jan 15, 2009 2:47 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think we only disagree based on the verbage used . . .

punting vs rebuilding on the fly. And your Colon comment makes no sense based on what I have stated. They aren’t competing BECAUSE they signed Colon and I never stated such. My position is simply they think they are competing, I can understand that position and signing Colon makes sense under that plan and the rebuilding on the fly plan.

by jc2313 on Jan 15, 2009 2:54 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

geeeeeeeeeeettttt eeeeemmmmmmmmmmm!!!!!!!

So, if I am reading the two options correctly . . .
we can either a) keep dye or b) trade dye . . . is that you Phil Rogers?

by jc2313 on Dec 11, 2008 4:53 PM CST up reply recommended Unrec 1

by Where Triples Go to Die on Jan 16, 2009 8:32 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

get em!!!

So, if I am reading the two options correctly . . .
we can either a) keep dye or b) trade dye . . . is that you Phil Rogers?

by jc2313 on Dec 11, 2008 4:53 PM CST up reply recommended Unrec 1

by Where Triples Go to Die on Jan 16, 2009 8:31 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

the flier deals are patches keeping the hull from breaching a la 2007

i’m in favor of it. adds some flavor to the season.

Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.

by colintj on Jan 15, 2009 2:29 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The point is if you don't think you are competing

this signing makes no sense. Kenny thinks he can compete this year and at the same time load up for a couple years down the road. They are not punting this season is the bottom line.

by jc2313 on Jan 15, 2009 2:37 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you're on the coke and strippers diet too?

Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.

by colintj on Jan 15, 2009 3:20 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

just keeping it real

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jan 15, 2009 6:19 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hey look everyone!!!!

Coling failing at another attempt of humor!

So, if I am reading the two options correctly . . .
we can either a) keep dye or b) trade dye . . . is that you Phil Rogers?

by jc2313 on Dec 11, 2008 4:53 PM CST up reply recommended Unrec 1

by Where Triples Go to Die on Jan 16, 2009 8:35 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

geeeeeeeeet emmmmmmmmmm!!!!!

So, if I am reading the two options correctly . . .
we can either a) keep dye or b) trade dye . . . is that you Phil Rogers?

by jc2313 on Dec 11, 2008 4:53 PM CST up reply recommended Unrec 1

by Where Triples Go to Die on Jan 16, 2009 8:33 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The difference between this year and last is not the aging of the offense, nor the loss of Vazquez nor the "inevitable regression" from Floyd.

No, the difference is that either Thornton, Linebrink or Dotel, maybe all three, is going to lose 1-2 MPH on their fastball, or just blow out their arm, and the difference will be not making it to game 163. I hope it doesn’t come to that, but it’s being overlooked.

by Daniel Berlyn on Jan 17, 2009 3:31 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Personally I believe it is more likely

that past stars recapture their magic than unproven jabronies like Jeff Marquez to ever get any magic at all.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Jan 15, 2009 6:18 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   1 recs

81 days til Opening Day.

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Jan 15, 2009 11:36 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

can Obama get us at least that far?

Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.

by colintj on Jan 15, 2009 11:36 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

sickels review of top 50 hitting prospects of 2004

white sox related:

10) Jeremy Reed, OF, Chicago White Sox, Grade A- Couldn’t sustain the high batting average. Didn’t pay enough attention to BABIP.
26) Jayson Nix, 2B, Colorado Rockies, Grade B+: Undone by poor strike zone judgment. Bust.

http://www.minorleagueball.com/2009/1/15/724771/top-50-hitting-prospects-o

"When I began playing the game, baseball was about as gentlemanly as a kick in the crotch."

by larry on Jan 15, 2009 11:38 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Just twist the knife already.

This + new 201k + Garolon hybrid = The Great Depression of 2009.

Come on, 2010!

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Jan 15, 2009 11:48 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Colon - we'll never see him pitch

He’ll be lucky to get out the Golden Corral Buffet and Grill door by the time the season starts

Replacing "Chicago Tough" with "Cuban Pride"

by Brush Back on Jan 15, 2009 12:00 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

http://glendale.arizona.com/ypcyellow/restaurants.html

"A good cigar is like a beautiful chick with a great body who also knows the American League box scores. "
Klinger

by Chiburb on Jan 15, 2009 12:04 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

On the plus side

At least there is plenty to make him want to go to camp, even if we can get him to leave it.

by Grinder in Training on Jan 15, 2009 12:12 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thx for reminding me...

somebody, as a matter of courtesy, should post SOMETHING in Joescoolboy’s
Fanpost. I’ll go give him this link.

"A good cigar is like a beautiful chick with a great body who also knows the American League box scores. "
Klinger

by Chiburb on Jan 15, 2009 12:16 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

price per pound doesn't seem too bad

van dyck says 1-2 mil. total.
so i figure somewhere between 3500-7000/lb.

brian anderson would've caught that...

by BuehrleMan on Jan 15, 2009 12:36 PM CST reply reply actions actions   1 recs

what was that saying of your I liked so much last year?

during game threads, usually directed at SSH?

"A good cigar is like a beautiful chick with a great body who also knows the American League box scores. "
Klinger

by Chiburb on Jan 15, 2009 12:42 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yours

"A good cigar is like a beautiful chick with a great body who also knows the American League box scores. "
Klinger

by Chiburb on Jan 15, 2009 12:42 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it was probably either

pound sand or go back to hell.
good times.

brian anderson would've caught that...

by BuehrleMan on Jan 15, 2009 12:52 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ah. go back to hell. Love it.

"A good cigar is like a beautiful chick with a great body who also knows the American League box scores. "
Klinger

by Chiburb on Jan 15, 2009 1:12 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If you can't get what you want in quality,

make up for it in volume. I’m sure there are a number of other retreads we could cart in. Hell, Paul Byrd says he’s available the 2nd half of the year!

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Jan 15, 2009 12:42 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm with you. Can't wait to see Pecota for this season.

"A good cigar is like a beautiful chick with a great body who also knows the American League box scores. "
Klinger

by Chiburb on Jan 15, 2009 12:45 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

lol

Posted in error by itself (amused me though)

Replacing "Chicago Tough" with "Cuban Pride"

by Brush Back on Jan 15, 2009 12:43 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Lol!

Replacing "Chicago Tough" with "Cuban Pride"

by Brush Back on Jan 15, 2009 12:42 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

MLBN Correction

A few days ago I posted that MLBN was promoting tomorrow’s 2005 WS highlights show as “Ozzie Guillen and his no-name White Sox…”

In actuality, it is being promoted as “Ozzie Guillen and his group of unknowns…”

Yep…Jermaine Dye, Mark Buehrle, Paul Konerko, AJ, Joe Crede…never heard of ’em.

I regret the error.

"There will be surgery. It will heal. It will heal fast."- Carlos Quentin on NBC 5 News Chicago (9/5/08)

by tailgater on Jan 15, 2009 1:03 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yes...people all across the globe scratching their heads and saying...

…“Who ARE these guys?!”

"There will be surgery. It will heal. It will heal fast."- Carlos Quentin on NBC 5 News Chicago (9/5/08)

by tailgater on Jan 15, 2009 1:10 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I know the Braves will be scratching their heads in about 3 months...

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Jan 15, 2009 1:20 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Worst damn team to ever win a series

Such an anomaly I don’t know if it even counts….

Seriously, a team wins a world series for a city that hasn’t won one in a combined 188 years or whatever and “no names” is how they market it? Brilliant.

by hitlesswonder on Jan 15, 2009 2:16 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ozzie, Pods, and the Grinder Ninjas

Vinny Del Negro interviewed for the job today. I mean come on! Nobody else thinks this is nuts?
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 6, 2008 4:21 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs

by Ozzie Montana on Jan 15, 2009 3:02 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

how i long to be considered a grinder ninja

brndnprkns: I'm pretty sure the "badass" value of your life is closer to Gigli than The Dark Knight

by whitesoxmatt on Jan 16, 2009 8:59 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Colon

$1 million Guaranteed??

Colon, White Sox agree to contract
 Associated Press

CHICAGO — Free agent Bartolo Colon, a former Cy Young Award winner and two-time All-Star, agreed Thursday to a $1 million, one-year contract with the Chicago White Sox.

A two-time 20-game winner, Colon could earn an additional $2 million based on innings.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jan 15, 2009 1:25 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Will he still be around at the All-Star break?

Discuss.

"There will be surgery. It will heal. It will heal fast."- Carlos Quentin on NBC 5 News Chicago (9/5/08)

by tailgater on Jan 15, 2009 1:35 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He will still be round

does that count?

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Jan 15, 2009 1:36 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Any metion of Colon's personal barber? Is he part of the deal?

It’s not just ANY barber that can get that Chico Marx haircut just right, ya know?

"There will be surgery. It will heal. It will heal fast."- Carlos Quentin on NBC 5 News Chicago (9/5/08)

by tailgater on Jan 15, 2009 1:38 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ugh..."mention"

"There will be surgery. It will heal. It will heal fast."- Carlos Quentin on NBC 5 News Chicago (9/5/08)

by tailgater on Jan 15, 2009 1:38 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Same as Maggs' and Doc Brown's.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Jan 15, 2009 1:42 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

not guaranteed
His contract is not guaranteed, so Colon, who turns 36 on May 24, finds himself in the mix with young hurlers such as Clayton Richard, Jeff Marquez, Aaron Poreda and Lance Broadway for the fourth and fifth starter slots.

http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090114&content_id=3744571&vkey=news_cws&fext=.jsp&c_id=cws

press release
http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/news/press_releases/press_release.jsp?ymd=20090115&content_id=3745095&vkey=pr_cws&fext=.jsp&c_id=cws

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jan 15, 2009 9:43 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

When has Konerko ever won a batting title?
Sift through the pile of stats coming out of the Dominican League, and it’s almost too good to be true.

Pablo Ozuna, a 34-year-old third baseman, must have found the fountain of youth. What else to make of his time there? When the playoffs got under way, he was the regular-season batting champ and led in on-base percentage and was third in slugging in finishing .390/.467/.568.

http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/prospects/?p=2042

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Jan 15, 2009 1:26 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Did Pablo

personally email this to you?

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jan 15, 2009 1:29 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think he's available to catch behind AJ.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Jan 15, 2009 1:32 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i'm stunned he only got a minor league deal after this performance.
Pablo Ozuna, a 34-year-old third baseman, must have found the fountain of youth. What else to make of his time there? When the playoffs got under way, he was the regular-season batting champ and led in on-base percentage and was third in slugging in finishing .390/.467/.568.

http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/prospects/?p=2042#more-2042

i will no longer laugh at the directions for a water landing.

by larry on Jan 16, 2009 10:24 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Any chance we can sign T. Owens for CF

I think the Cowboys are going to cut him.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jan 15, 2009 1:53 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sure would be fun to watch him work with Orton.

Wouldn’t last a week of practice before Owens would kill him.

by Grinder in Training on Jan 15, 2009 1:59 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Jerry? Would kill him?

I think Bobby mentioned “CF” somewhere in his ‘clearly’ post.

"A good cigar is like a beautiful chick with a great body who also knows the American League box scores. "
Klinger

by Chiburb on Jan 15, 2009 2:01 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yes, CF

TO’s antics would kill Virginia McCaskey.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jan 15, 2009 2:34 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

where's TAEG to explain it to me?

"A good cigar is like a beautiful chick with a great body who also knows the American League box scores. "
Klinger

by Chiburb on Jan 15, 2009 2:42 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

lying in the weeds

getting ready to pounce…or was that smoking weed and watching the Big Lebowski?

One of those two.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jan 15, 2009 2:44 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Clearly he did

But since that would never happen, him coming to a Chicago team that does have a spot for Terrell Owens would still bring hilarious results. I realize Kyle Orton was not signed by the White Sox recently.

by Grinder in Training on Jan 15, 2009 3:17 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

oh. ok.

"A good cigar is like a beautiful chick with a great body who also knows the American League box scores. "
Klinger

by Chiburb on Jan 15, 2009 3:21 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Plane down in Hudson river about 40 minutes ago

Appears to be controlled and people off

Replacing "Chicago Tough" with "Cuban Pride"

by Brush Back on Jan 15, 2009 3:06 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Around 146 passengers + crew

Replacing "Chicago Tough" with "Cuban Pride"

by Brush Back on Jan 15, 2009 3:07 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Rec'd.

Schadenfreude is fun.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Jan 15, 2009 3:09 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

42 degrees in the water

Replacing "Chicago Tough" with "Cuban Pride"

by Brush Back on Jan 15, 2009 3:09 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

HYPO-FUCKIN-THERMIA IN TEN MINUTES

IT’S OVAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

i will no longer laugh at the directions for a water landing.

by larry on Jan 15, 2009 3:10 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

10 minutes? I'd give them 11

it is open to debate

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jan 15, 2009 6:22 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I hope the rescue boats can find them.

James Cameron is cleaning his video lens.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Jan 15, 2009 3:10 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

she's going under!

i will no longer laugh at the directions for a water landing.

by larry on Jan 15, 2009 3:12 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm flying out there

if any woman is going down indiscriminately.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Jan 15, 2009 3:13 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Larry is filing papers and your shorting the airline

typical lawer and trader

Replacing "Chicago Tough" with "Cuban Pride"

by Brush Back on Jan 15, 2009 3:15 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

she got everyone off a half hour ago or something.

all birds need to die.

i will no longer laugh at the directions for a water landing.

by larry on Jan 15, 2009 3:15 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Was Colon on the plane?

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jan 15, 2009 3:18 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i don't think he was optioned to charlotte.

i will no longer laugh at the directions for a water landing.

by larry on Jan 15, 2009 3:19 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Why do you think it went down?

Weight.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Jan 15, 2009 3:19 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Colon and Uribe were both on the same side of the aisle

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jan 15, 2009 3:22 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I will be surfing in water about that, if not a couple degrees colder, this weekend.

Of course, I have 6 mm of neoprene encasing me….
But shit’s still cold as hell after an hour or two.

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Jan 16, 2009 9:49 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I lauged out loud

And green reminds me of warmer times…

"would've been a sweep if pablo was here" -Kenwo-

by Hazymania on Jan 15, 2009 6:13 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Go crazy, New Yorkers, go crazy!!!!!!!

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Jan 15, 2009 3:08 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i don't think eating the survivors is an appropriate response.

i will no longer laugh at the directions for a water landing.

by larry on Jan 15, 2009 3:08 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you lack perspective

Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.

by colintj on Jan 15, 2009 3:21 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you lack compassion

i will no longer laugh at the directions for a water landing.

by larry on Jan 15, 2009 3:22 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you uptight lawyer types

you just want to rein in my experiences, man.

Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.

by colintj on Jan 15, 2009 4:24 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i don't care if you fuck men, colin.

you have me confused with what you think your father would disapprove.

i will no longer laugh at the directions for a water landing.

by larry on Jan 15, 2009 4:36 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Jan 15, 2009 5:20 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   1 recs

This is the best site on the Internet.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Jan 15, 2009 4:58 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

larry invented the internet

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jan 15, 2009 5:06 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Off topic (it wouldn't have to be if we had a music thread up! Garrrhhh!)...

anybody ever see a show at Der Rathskeller in Madison (where’s toonder when he’s needed)? I’m thinking of going to see Los Campesinos when they’re up there in February…

by CWSKeith on Jan 15, 2009 5:10 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

tremendous place

the memorial union has got the beer hall/dungeon look down. Tons of atmosphere. College girls too. Two thumbs way up.

I'm like a laser, six-string razor. I've got a mouth like an alligator

by Nordhagen on Jan 15, 2009 8:11 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Go

Its awesome! As Nordhagen stated, the local scenery is great.

the union is by far one of my favorite places to see a show in the summer. Plus they are free. Word of warning though, if you are under 21 don’t drink. They are pretty hardcore on the IDs there.

I lived in Madison for a year, so if you have any questions feel free to ask.

by 815Sox on Jan 15, 2009 9:29 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He read our site and figured he has it pretty good in TX

and would NEVER make it in the pressure-cooker of a pennant race.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Jan 15, 2009 5:22 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

(colin's head just arose from his somnambulistic reverie.)

Again, he reads our site. Robin’s thrashing at the hands of an over-60 guy made Young wet his pants.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Jan 15, 2009 5:33 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Realized playing third is better then losing your starting job to Chris Getz a month into the season.

by Grinder in Training on Jan 15, 2009 5:35 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Getz is in colin's meat locker.

(“Layla” starts playing.)

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Jan 15, 2009 5:36 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

unless one is better than the other at defense

it doesn’t matter. young isn’t likely to be a plus anything defender.

Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.

by colintj on Jan 17, 2009 11:29 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think that the arm strength factor would at least save a few runs.

Young at 3B could be comical with his arm strength. Or maybe I need to stop playing MVP 05. Anyway, they’re both pretty mediocre so I just think that their respective tools would suit them better where I said.

by Daniel Berlyn on Jan 18, 2009 4:13 PM CST to parent up