"Going into Spring Training, we don't have a leadoff hitter and Jerry [Owens] is considered to be a leadoff hitter. It's math, not magic. It's going to be tough for me, going in [to Spring Training] and knowing that if I play clearly above the rest, my only reward is a platoon situation. It's not something I want."
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I say give the man a fair chance to win the job
We didn’t have a leadoff hitter all of last year and we somehow made it.
larry has that system down to a science. Especially with the way the economy is….big wigs like larry coming in dressed in their mink coats and 24k gold cigarrete holders with pockets lined with coke make for a large draw during shift changes.
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Which man?
BA can screw up just as badly as Owens, and he never pulls a groin.
I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT
screw up what?
larry has that system down to a science. Especially with the way the economy is….big wigs like larry coming in dressed in their mink coats and 24k gold cigarrete holders with pockets lined with coke make for a large draw during shift changes.
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
There is a reason he is appoaching 28 years old
and has never played a full season in the majors. And it isn’t his injuries.
Fer Chrissakes.
I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT
the CF prospect we got in the Swisher trade
what, we didn’t get one? nevermind…
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
You think someone is going to not only give up a great player like Marquez, but throw in a CF prospect too? Get real.
by Grinder in Training on Jan 16, 2009 2:47 PM CST up reply actions
speaking of Marquez
Either way, Colon’s presence probably means Jeff Marquez (acquired from the Yankees in the Nick Swisher trade) is likely headed for Class AAA Charlotte, which is the right spot.
http://blogs.dailyherald.com/node/1248
h/t Jim
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
BULLSHIT
larry has that system down to a science. Especially with the way the economy is….big wigs like larry coming in dressed in their mink coats and 24k gold cigarrete holders with pockets lined with coke make for a large draw during shift changes.
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
kenny is sharpening his pencil!
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
wow. what a shocker.
the guy with 80 unimpressive IP at AAA is going to start in charlotte. who could have possibly seen this one coming. boy, that colon signing sure has wide-ranging ramifications.
i will no longer laugh at the directions for a water landing.
wide-ranging
i see what you did there.
"A good cigar is like a beautiful chick with a great body who also knows the American League box scores. "
Klinger
i dont know ive learned to not question decisions this team makes with
people they acquire from other teams albeit most of the other ones have better track records than marquez but still
larry has that system down to a science. Especially with the way the economy is….big wigs like larry coming in dressed in their mink coats and 24k gold cigarrete holders with pockets lined with coke make for a large draw during shift changes.
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
masset sucked.
marquez is spanish for masset.
i will no longer laugh at the directions for a water landing.
masset is a unique element
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
like boron?
"A good cigar is like a beautiful chick with a great body who also knows the American League box scores. "
Klinger
boron van masset!
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Jan 16, 2009 3:22 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
masset van benschoten
I hope he never reaches the majors with us, if only because the stitching of his name will bankrupt the team
by Daniel Berlyn on Jan 17, 2009 3:59 AM CST up reply actions
This was posted yesterday, Wizard, IIRC.
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by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT
par for the course
I’m speaking for me!
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
I did like the link provided to Van Dyke's article:
Basically, the Sox replaced the relatively guaranteed victories that came with Javier Vazquez—who was traded to Atlanta for catching prospect Tyler Flowers, infielder Brent Lillibridge and others—for the “what-if” of Colon.
“Relatively guaranteed victories”, eh? Interesting.
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by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT
Relatively guaranteed victories
Must mean Phat Phreddy…
Isn’t he Ozzie’s wife’s sister’s Uncle or something?
"A good cigar is like a beautiful chick with a great body who also knows the American League box scores. "
Klinger
niece's husband?
I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.
by thatshortkid on Jan 16, 2009 6:38 PM CST up reply actions
I think those are explained here
http://nybaseballdigest.com/?p=6402
AIM: SouthSideCheat
by The Cheat on Jan 16, 2009 3:15 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd.
Wow. He gets a vote?
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by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT
yea wiz
whaddya thinkin?
\\
larry has that system down to a science. Especially with the way the economy is….big wigs like larry coming in dressed in their mink coats and 24k gold cigarrete holders with pockets lined with coke make for a large draw during shift changes.
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
par for the course...
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
Good for BA.
I’d rather see him speak his mind, get shipped out, and get a chance elsewhere. Perhaps he’ll never be more than a 4th OF, but he deserves to find out.
Written as a BA fan. BoyCrush and all..
"A good cigar is like a beautiful chick with a great body who also knows the American League box scores. "
Klinger
i've long stated my preference for brian
and jerry to fight to the death for centerfield. at least a roster spot would be cleared.
i will no longer laugh at the directions for a water landing.
watch. he'll get shipped to the Yankees and he and Swisher will
fight it out for 4th OF.
"A good cigar is like a beautiful chick with a great body who also knows the American League box scores. "
Klinger
damn right
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
I say
let BA play cf, and if we don’t find any sort of leadoff type, let getz have it, so what if he is young and inexperienced, its not like if we don’t win this year, were going to look bad,the cubs wont even do it haha
ideally thats what i have been hoping for
but how often do you see a rookie leading off for a team trying to contend
larry has that system down to a science. Especially with the way the economy is….big wigs like larry coming in dressed in their mink coats and 24k gold cigarrete holders with pockets lined with coke make for a large draw during shift changes.
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Any idea what a team would have to trade for Brian Anderson?
by Grinder in Training on Jan 16, 2009 3:13 PM CST reply actions
I’d sure take Anderson over a lot of other options if that’s all it takes. Surprised no one really has shown interest (publically at least).
by Grinder in Training on Jan 16, 2009 3:26 PM CST up reply actions
Am I just a biased idiot
To think Brian Anderson should be a starting CF somewhere? I just think some team out there could use a gold glover with decent power / speed considering the low cost in this economy.
by Grinder in Training on Jan 16, 2009 3:50 PM CST up reply actions
I think you kind of exaggerated all of his traits there.
Plus he can’t hit a high fastball.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jan 16, 2009 4:01 PM CST up reply actions
He doesn’t have decent power / speed? He could probably hit 20 HRs as a starter that seems like decent power to me. His base running is solid. His glove is gold glove caliber in my opinion.
I’m not sure where I really reached?
by Grinder in Training on Jan 16, 2009 4:06 PM CST up reply actions
He had the starting CF job in 2006
he then lost it. Still had 365 PA with 8 HR’s. Most he has ever had at any level is 16. I don’t see him as a 20-Hr guy. Probably 10-15.
Baserunning is average. He has 10 SB’s in his ML career and been caught 8 times. most he had in the minors was 13 in 2004.
His a good defensive CF’er. Gold glove? I don’t know about that…
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jan 16, 2009 4:16 PM CST up reply actions
he's at his power peak now.
i wouldn’t call 20 home runs an exaggeration for full-time play, especially in a favorable ballpark. and considering all he said was “decent”, seems like average for baserunning and 10-15 home runs would suffice. and michael young won a gold glove.
I'm just saying historically he hasn't done any of it
gold glove, maybe if he played everyday…
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jan 16, 2009 4:24 PM CST up reply actions
Historically - lol
Replacing "Chicago Tough" with "Cuban Pride"
all the more reason to let him play
he might acquire some value
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
don't you remember ozzie's great 'rob mackowiak in CF' experiment
I lost a lot of hair during it
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
My favorite part was when Rob said he wasn't comfortable
playing CF – and Ozzie still kept putting him out there. I still remember 2 fly balls going over his head then one over Gload’s head – only to watch Freddy lose it and KC blow them out of the game. All this while sitting behind the foul pole in the upper right field deck. Such fond memories.
Replacing "Chicago Tough" with "Cuban Pride"
He really is a down to earth guy
was just put in a situation in which he couldn’t win and angered a lot of fans
Replacing "Chicago Tough" with "Cuban Pride"
Actually
I usually get lambasted when I proclaim my hatred for him (On this site, Rieferts site, at the park, with my friends). I think a lot of fans still like him….Why I don’t know. Maybe he blew them. To each their own I suppose.
Kenwo4life=ratings
someone with equal cockmanship
larry has that system down to a science. Especially with the way the economy is….big wigs like larry coming in dressed in their mink coats and 24k gold cigarrete holders with pockets lined with coke make for a large draw during shift changes.
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Peerless. Which is why, barring JO's groin regressing, he has no shot.
Here’s BA’s thought bubble:
“Let’s see – I am a white West-Coast dude who is a major babe hound. My competition is an African-American ex-football player (sound like anyone in a decision-making capacity with my team?) and my manager is a crazy Hispanic who hates the Left Coast attitude. Oh, and who is getting inagurated as President next week? That’s right. It is the Year of the Person of Color. I am yesterday’s news. So I am going to love it up as much as I can and cash that paycheck for as long as I can.”
(Signed, BSS’ Semi-Racist Uncle)
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by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT
by winningugly on Jan 16, 2009 3:25 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
His name is Clayton Bigsby, you POS!
Now that Brad Penny is on the east coast, who is BA gonna mack on babes with?
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jan 16, 2009 3:39 PM CST up reply actions
Lillibridge?
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by SullyBaseball
Who wins, places, shows and brings up the rear
from first to second?
Post Position 1: Colon
Post Position 2: Contreras
Post Position 3: Konerko
Post Position 4: Thomer
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
Count has no Achilles on one side.
So he’s at least 3rd.
You are leaving out AJ? You POS.
I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT
Well, I thought about AJ
and he sometimes gets confused on the basepaths and I thought he might f*ck up the whole race by cutting across the infield or geting halfway there and deciding to turn back. So I left him out.
I see Count at possibly 2nd. No Achillies and all…
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jan 16, 2009 3:57 PM CST up reply actions
Felix Pie?
The Cubs have basically 6 OF right now (Soriano, Fukudome, Bradley, Taguchi, Gathright, Pie), if you don’t count Hauifpower (sp?). What are the feelings towards acquiring Pie from the Cubs? Has been a bust so far in the pros, but had good minor league stats and is still 23 years old.
Why not
add another young speedster who can’t hit a lick.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jan 16, 2009 4:00 PM CST up reply actions
he can hit enough for a CF . ..
a little different than our current options and he isn’t really a ‘speedster’ in that he is an Owens type. Isn’t a basestealer really . . . maybe you have someone else in mind. I would rather have him than Anderson or Owens, that is for sure.
His MLE based on his 07 and 08 seasons
is 265/310/400 at age 24, think he can improve on that. Also based on some reports I have read, just think he is better than his 08 season (and not as good as his 07), maybe a change of scenery guy.
Plus, the guy had testicular surgery before the season . . . has to be Chicago Tough to play a week later.
If it means I won't have to see JO - KW should go for it!
Replacing "Chicago Tough" with "Cuban Pride"
Cubs won't trade Felix Pie
to the Chicago White Sox.
"I am not going out like SSH. "
by WTGTD, 12/3/08
Why not - perhaps they could use Owens
Replacing "Chicago Tough" with "Cuban Pride"
They will trade him to Baltimore
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3842286
Vinny Del Negro interviewed for the job today. I mean come on! Nobody else thinks this is nuts?
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 6, 2008 4:21 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Ozzie Montana on Jan 18, 2009 1:43 PM CST up reply actions
We have 3 too!
“We said we were really going to emphasize defense, and it’s hard to imagine a better defensive outfield in the game than Pie, [Adam] Jones and [Nick] Markakis. It really gives us three center fielders”
Replacing "Chicago Tough" with "Cuban Pride"
JO is a career .291 minor league hitter
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
he also saved 34 kittens from being euthanized last season alone.
i will no longer laugh at the directions for a water landing.
When JO was 24
he hit .331 with a .396 OBP and had 38 SB’s in AA Birmingham.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jan 16, 2009 4:11 PM CST up reply actions
guys who spend three years in AAA tend to not, as well.
i will no longer laugh at the directions for a water landing.
There is a reason Hendry
has gone out and gotten so many OF’s while having Pie on the roster with zero ML options left. The reason is he doesn’t think Pie has it.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jan 16, 2009 4:18 PM CST up reply actions
That or they still think they can get Peavy.
by JoeCoolMan24 on Jan 16, 2009 4:20 PM CST up reply actions
Or the pressure for the Cubs
to win NOW is huge. No time to let a rookie develop . . . can’t afford any growing pains with the money being spent and the expectations that have been set.
I don’t think you have a superstar in Pie, but it iwould be an upgrade, imo. He may have spent 3 seasons in AAA, but is only 24 this year . . . first AAA season was at 21 (and it was successful), not a lot of guys do that either.
win, place, show
Alexei – win
Anderson – place
JO – show
Pie – glue factory
This is what I love about White Sox fans... You guys have so much fun venom!
by SullyBaseball
when i was seventeen
i drank a very good beer
a very good beer i purchased
with a fake i.d.
my name was brian mcgee
i stayed up listening to queen
when i was seventeen
I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.
by thatshortkid on Jan 16, 2009 6:56 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Excellent. You been hiding this week, POS.
I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT
goodbye my darlin', hello vietNAMM
trade show this week, which means lots of work work work work work in the weeks leading up. such it is.
on the upshot, TWC turned on my MLBN and MLBNHD stations. i have finally found out why man invents technology: purely as a progression towards this channel. it really is the best thing ever.
I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.
by thatshortkid on Jan 17, 2009 4:05 AM CST up reply actions
No argument there.
The wife has hired an attorney.
I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT
it broke the Bartolo news about a day late
and I want to watch old TWIBs but yeah, its good.
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by SullyBaseball
I wonder if there at all interested
in the Cuban outfielder who is supposedly “major league ready.” Haven’t heard much about him or his defector pitching buddy.
They weren't officially tied to an agent as of last week
They were featured in a story on Newday, along with a video where they mentioned Jamie Torres and the White sox (because of Count/Che/Vice), but nothing appeared imminent.
/they will now sign with Sox within the hour
AIM: SouthSideCheat
Both are intriguing.
The outfielder, I wanna say, was described as a speed guy capable of playing centerfield.
I got a hunch
maybe we’ll see him, Freddy and maybe Blanco round out the offseason activity.
Blanco makes a lot of sense too.....how much are we thinking.....
he’d be a great guy to help shut down the Twins’ running game.
Henry
will have to accept a paycut, though.
blanco
Cubs notes from Bruce Miles of the Daily Herald…
* The Cubs are unlikely to re-sign Henry Blanco, but Paul Bako remains on the radar.
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2009/01/cubs-rumors-wol.html
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
I want Valentin
as the back up backstop
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by SullyBaseball
What about Ivan Rodriguez?
Supposedly, he’ll take a minor-league deal. He hits right. How is his defense?
www.stallingtheman.blogspot.com
In terms of need they certainly both make a lot of sense....
and if White Sox indeed are interested with $$$$$ comparable to other offers…….then with the three Cubans already on board…..well Sox make a lot of sense for both.
Hard to say what prices would be and what Sox would have to sacrifice given KW’s insistence that any roster moves would have to be on a “dollar for dollar” exchange basis.
Speaking of centerfielders....
any of you boys see Jones working out with Chipper….footage on MLB network…..he looked to be in good to very good shape…..that’s one obstacle down….I know there’s likely a complicated mechanical/psychological component to his fall, but, still…..
I kinda know what you're saying....
I couldn’t tell if there was a bit too much gut yet…..at least, relative to the last couple years…..he looked better….My immediate reaction, though, was “wow….he looks pretty good.”
And by pretty good...
…you mean in the voluptuous sense, right?
EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine
Moobies?
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by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT
i agree with BA
i wish we were rid of jerry ownes and dewayne wise to start this year, both are waste of roster spots because their fast, each plays a bad centerfield and has no arm.
by BestKosherPolish on Jan 16, 2009 6:50 PM CST reply actions
wise plays a good cf
larry has that system down to a science. Especially with the way the economy is….big wigs like larry coming in dressed in their mink coats and 24k gold cigarrete holders with pockets lined with coke make for a large draw during shift changes.
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
anybody else watching mlb network?\
larry has that system down to a science. Especially with the way the economy is….big wigs like larry coming in dressed in their mink coats and 24k gold cigarrete holders with pockets lined with coke make for a large draw during shift changes.
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Who's on?
I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT
2005 world series film
larry has that system down to a science. Especially with the way the economy is….big wigs like larry coming in dressed in their mink coats and 24k gold cigarrete holders with pockets lined with coke make for a large draw during shift changes.
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Thanks. I'm there.
I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT
k were already into the world series though
larry has that system down to a science. Especially with the way the economy is….big wigs like larry coming in dressed in their mink coats and 24k gold cigarrete holders with pockets lined with coke make for a large draw during shift changes.
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I LOVE PAULIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is better than sex. It is. I’ve not ever teared up during sex. My women have, but not me.
I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT
I sure do love AJ quotes though.
Break their hearts twice.
by Grinder in Training on Jan 16, 2009 7:52 PM CST up reply actions
I LOVE PODS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OZZIE IS CONNIE MACK!!!!!!! I LOVE THESE GUYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I LOVE MLBN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT
The astro's love to jump out in front.
Expert analysis as always.
by Grinder in Training on Jan 16, 2009 7:59 PM CST up reply actions
I LOVE AJ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT
I LOVE BLUM!!!!!!!!!!
larry has that system down to a science. Especially with the way the economy is….big wigs like larry coming in dressed in their mink coats and 24k gold cigarrete holders with pockets lined with coke make for a large draw during shift changes.
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
ZOMG ACE IN THE HOLE!
larry has that system down to a science. Especially with the way the economy is….big wigs like larry coming in dressed in their mink coats and 24k gold cigarrete holders with pockets lined with coke make for a large draw during shift changes.
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
How can you not love Mark Buehrle?
by Grinder in Training on Jan 16, 2009 8:09 PM CST up reply actions
I LOVE MB.
No. really, he’s gotta be my favorite Sox pitcher of all time.
I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT
MINES CARL EVERETT
larry has that system down to a science. Especially with the way the economy is….big wigs like larry coming in dressed in their mink coats and 24k gold cigarrete holders with pockets lined with coke make for a large draw during shift changes.
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
This is why we need freddy back
larry has that system down to a science. Especially with the way the economy is….big wigs like larry coming in dressed in their mink coats and 24k gold cigarrete holders with pockets lined with coke make for a large draw during shift changes.
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Same.
Face of the franchise post Frank Thomas.
by Grinder in Training on Jan 16, 2009 8:13 PM CST up reply actions
Not to mention
Anyone who makes fun of Brandon Backe is good by me.
by Grinder in Training on Jan 16, 2009 8:14 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd.
BB: What a douchebag. “Hey, he might be a gamer.” Hilarious.
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by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT
I do miss me some Willie Harris.
by Grinder in Training on Jan 16, 2009 8:17 PM CST up reply actions
That was a perfect season.
I really liked seeing MB, Legend, Frank, etc. all getting a little lump in their throats talking about it. Especially since I cry every time I see the last out.
Magic.
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by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT
Thanks for reminding us, JB89. You da man.
I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT
Jim would've posted a reminder if he had a blog
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
What pisses me off the most about our CF options
is having to discuss (again) our CF options. This is, like, at least 2-3 years old, and it hasn’t changed. Fer Chrissakes, BA is not going to become 30 year old Jim Edmonds, and Jesse isn’t going to morph into Upton.
Goddammit anyway. They is who they is – cheap 4th-5th OF’s. Not good enough to start except in our lovely situation.
I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT
Thanks for reminding us this is the same thread that has been running for 2-3 years now
Replacing "Chicago Tough" with "Cuban Pride"
Agreed, agreed
as hoytsstash says about the CF options with these clowns — what’s nothin’ times nothin’
"wow, yeah. cubs ST should be awesome. have a great time."
-by Larry on Jan. 9, 2009 3:09 PM PST
but now we're talking about felix pie, another probable fourth outfielder!
i’m all for wasting a roster spot on a guy who doesn’t have any options left who doesn’t seem to be any better than any of the three current options on the current roster. that’s smart baseball management there, folks.
hoytsstash thinks we're gonna lowball the hell outta opposing teams....
shit Larry, they won’t know who to expect in the outfield on any given day….
It’ll keep opposing managers up all night….
They won’t know whether there’s gonna be a guy out there batting .234, .245, .215, or .228….
hoytsstash says fuck it, lets throw Rock Raines into the mix.
"wow, yeah. cubs ST should be awesome. have a great time."
-by Larry on Jan. 9, 2009 3:09 PM PST
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The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
Robothal on jose, freddy and our ever-elusive 2Bman
Encouraging news for the White Sox: Right-hander Jose Contreras, recovering from a ruptured left Achilles tendon, has lost 25 pounds and already is throwing off a mound. Contreras was expected to miss at least nine months after undergoing surgery in August. His timetable could be accelerated.
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The White Sox are willing to offer free-agent right-hander Freddy Garcia a spot in their rotation even after signing another physically questionable pitcher, Bartolo Colon. The Mets, too, envision Garcia as a potential starter even if they re-sign lefty Oliver Perez; they could move another recent addition, righty Tim Redding, to the bullpen. The Rangers also are in the Garcia sweepstakes, and the pitcher’s decision likely will hinge on which team offers him the best opportunity and best contract. Garcia would prefer a major-league deal, which would guarantee him termination pay if he were released in March, but he could accept a minor-league deal if he receives a better chance to start.
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The seeming lack of interest in free-agent second baseman Orlando Hudson has been one of the biggest mysteries of the offseason, but it’s still too soon to jump to conclusions. The Indians explored signing Hudson before trading for Mark DeRosa to play third base. The Nationals, White Sox and Giants all have needs at second base, whether they admit to them or not.
http://foxsports.com/mlb/story/9090020/
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
It seems like just yesterday
That it seemed like everyone was calling for Contreras to move to the bullpen so B-Mac could pitch. I don’t recall him being impressive prior to going down last year either. I’m really not sure when he came back to being the top or mid-rotation guy.
Replacing "Chicago Tough" with "Cuban Pride"
Just a note - I hope he is... but I won't be holding my breath waiting
Replacing "Chicago Tough" with "Cuban Pride"
How about May?
3-1, 7 innings a start, 2.09 ERA.
By definition, his ERA last season qualifies as “middle of the rotation.”
EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine
by Sox Machine on Jan 16, 2009 10:39 PM CST up reply actions
Contreras has done more the past few years than good ol B-Mac
Hell i think I may have done more the last few years than B-Mac.
Kenwo4life=ratings
Perhps this will help
His value for his contract was there even in a shortened season. He had quite a bit to do with the team’s success.
http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=1660&position=P
"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."
by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."
I suppose - I'm just not putting a lot of faith on his return
He had a drop in velocity – seemed to be giving up a fair number of runs. Perhaps an improved defense behind him would help – for that matter would help the whole staff – but we don’t know what kind of defense we’ll have this season.
I’m not saying B-Mac is or was better – I just recall the clammer to get him out of there and in the BP. In some ways my gut says Colon will perform better than him (if only for a short period before getting hurt). But you never know – all that Cuban pride on the team may cause him to raise his game somehow.
Replacing "Chicago Tough" with "Cuban Pride"
That wouldnt surprise me either
I was merely commenting on his performance last year.
"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."
by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."
Rick Peterson speaks
Posted by Dave Studeman
Former A’s and Mets pitching coach Rick Peterson will be sharing his pitching thoughts with Full Count Pitch twice a month. Here is the first installment, in which he talks about four basic areas of pitching: the pitch count, evaluating pitchers, getting ahead of hitters, and the makeup of a successful pitcher.
http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/blog_article/rick-peterson-speaks/
here’s a bit:
But, which is more important, swings and misses or inducing groundballs? Coach Peterson explains, "If you had to choose, inducing groundballs is more important. Consider that the batting average of a ball put in play on a 0-0 count is over .325. If the count moves to 1-0 or even 1-1, it jumps to over .500. It only makes sense that you want the ball to get hit on the ground."
http://fullcountpitch.com/2009/01/16/pitching-perspectives-with-rick-peterson/#more-1373
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
Maybe I'm goofy or Tim McCarver
But like if they swing and miss with 2 strikes they are like out.
"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."
by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."
Thanks, Wiz.
Great article.
"I am not going out like SSH. "
by WTGTD, 12/3/08
what?
larry has that system down to a science. Especially with the way the economy is….big wigs like larry coming in dressed in their mink coats and 24k gold cigarrete holders with pockets lined with coke make for a large draw during shift changes.
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The “then this” what is this referring to?
by Grinder in Training on Jan 17, 2009 2:02 PM CST up reply actions
yeah
larry has that system down to a science. Especially with the way the economy is….big wigs like larry coming in dressed in their mink coats and 24k gold cigarrete holders with pockets lined with coke make for a large draw during shift changes.
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Then this =
knowing that if I play clearly above the rest, my only reward is a platoon situation. It’s not something I want."
twinkies don't like the new advanced stats
# Not only did the new Mariners front office create a “statistical research and analysis department” run by SABR member Tony Blengino and bring on friend of AG.com Tom Tango as a consultant, they use The Hardball Times’ defensive stats. On a related note, during a KFAN radio appearance last month my comment that the Twins are one of the increasingly rare MLB teams without any sort of department focused on statistical analysis apparently drew the ire of the front office.
Assistant general manager Rob Antony brought up my comment on the air a few days later while being interviewed by LaVelle E. Neal III and noted that the Twins do in fact use stats in their decision-making. However, my suggestion was never that the Twins completely ignore stats, because that would be silly. Rather, my point was that for better or worse they don’t employ the more advanced statistical tools that have become available recently and are now in fairly wide use among other teams (like the Mariners).
In other words, my point was about things like PitchFX and Zone Ratings rather than home-road splits and fielding percentages. There’s a big difference, so in an effort to clear the air I sent Antony an e-mail. To his credit he responded with an explanation of the Twins’ stance on the issue, but also confirmed that they indeed “do not have a department devoted to statistical analysis” and are not using the type of advanced tools I was talking about. Whether that’s good or bad is up for debate, but it’s definitely true.
http://www.aarongleeman.com/2009_01_11_baseballblog_archive.html#7883616173876104289
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
So what are the Mariners using the stats for - can't be player evaluation
At least not players for their organization anyways!
Replacing "Chicago Tough" with "Cuban Pride"
Raines belongs in Hall
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/hof09/columns/story?columnist=law_keith&id=3825493
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
BABIP’s relationship to hitters
Part of most everybody’s method of hitter evaluation includes a look at the player’s BABIP. “Were they lucky or unlucky?” is the typical question trying to be answered. Is the BABIP above or below league-average, their career BABIP, or some expected BABIP?
That’s good and all, but today I want to discuss a new idea to consider when looking at BABIP. Here’s my hypothesis:
Hypothesis
Some hitters are more reliant on their BABIP than others. Remembering that BABIP stand for Batting Average on Balls In Play, reminds us that BABIP only accounts for balls put into play—balls between the foul lines and in front of the fence. Some hitters, like Adam Dunn for example, rarely put the ball in play and therefore are not as reliant on their BABIP’s as hitters who make their living punching the ball in play, such as Juan Pierre.
As you would expect, the Adam Dunn’s of baseball have lower values in the denominator of their BABIP equation because, well, the bottom half of the BABIP ratio is balls in play and we established before that these hitters do not hit a lot of them. Lower values in the denominator means more fluctuation; think about it.
Let’s say two hitters both have 100 hits and get their one-hundred and first hit in the same game (none of the hits are home runs). Hitter A is primarily a ball in play hitter and has 800 balls in play, while Hitter B is more of a true outcome hitter (because his plate appearances often result in what are known as the three true outcomes: walks, strikeouts, and home runs) and only has 400 balls in play. If you calculate the effect the added hit has on each player’s BABIP, you will realize that it has a larger effect on Hitter B’s BABIP, by .0007 to be more specific.
In this example the difference in BABIP appears statistically insignificant, but with real numbers perhaps a meaningful difference will be realized. Let’s see if this theory—and remember it is still just a theory—hold true when tested by the numbers. …
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
Sickels on Carter
Dexter Carter, RHP, Chicago White Sox
Bats: R Throws: R HT: 6-6 WT: 195 DOB: February 5, 1987
SLEEPER ALERT!! Dexter Carter pitched horribly for Old Dominion during the spring of 2008, but the White Sox saw potential and selected him in the 13th round anyway. They made some mechanical adjustments, then sent him to the Pioneer League, where he was a completely different pitcher. His command was awful in college, but it was much better at Great Falls, as he threw strikes much more consistently with his 90-93 MPH fastball. His curveball and changeup still need some work, but the turnaround was impossible to ignore, and he was particularly effective in his last few starts, giving up just one run in his last 18 innings. Carter will have to prove he can maintain this at higher levels, but he’s definitely a pitcher of interest. I don’t want to go higher than Grade C without more data, but he’s certainly got higher potential and should be on your sleeper list.
http://www.minorleagueball.com/2009/1/17/726778/some-book-excerpts#comments
nice
dexter is a sweet name
larry has that system down to a science. Especially with the way the economy is….big wigs like larry coming in dressed in their mink coats and 24k gold cigarrete holders with pockets lined with coke make for a large draw during shift changes.
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
funny that you mentioned it
i added it to my netflix queue earlier today
larry has that system down to a science. Especially with the way the economy is….big wigs like larry coming in dressed in their mink coats and 24k gold cigarrete holders with pockets lined with coke make for a large draw during shift changes.
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Bring it to the top of the queue ASAP
Why so serious?
by reardenmettle on Jan 17, 2009 11:20 PM CST up reply actions

























