Jenks avoids arbitration, inks $5.6MM deal
I believe the $5.6MM is a record for a first-year-eligible reliever, breaking Gagne's previous mark of $5MM. K-Rod and Gagne are Jenks closest comps in their first 3 sesaons, with those players earning $3.75/7/10 and $5/8/10, respectively, in their arb years.
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Not bad
larry has that system down to a science. Especially with the way the economy is….big wigs like larry coming in dressed in their mink coats and 24k gold cigarrete holders with pockets lined with coke make for a large draw during shift changes.
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
by Jbasic89 on Jan 19, 2009 3:38 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
sure it is
Can the Sox afford Jenks @ nearly $9M next year?
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by The Cheat on Jan 19, 2009 3:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
no thats why you trade him
larry has that system down to a science. Especially with the way the economy is….big wigs like larry coming in dressed in their mink coats and 24k gold cigarrete holders with pockets lined with coke make for a large draw during shift changes.
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
by Jbasic89 on Jan 19, 2009 3:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know why he got this much.
Very surprising to me, especially in this market and the rest of KW’s moves this offseason.
by Daniel Berlyn on Jan 19, 2009 3:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Am I wrong in thinking...
it’s because he’s GOOD?
If you have nothing to add to the discussion. Continue sniffing glue.
by defensive indifference on Jan 19, 2009 3:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
there really is so other explanation
larry has that system down to a science. Especially with the way the economy is….big wigs like larry coming in dressed in their mink coats and 24k gold cigarrete holders with pockets lined with coke make for a large draw during shift changes.
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
by Jbasic89 on Jan 19, 2009 3:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That 41 straight outs thing was decent.
Saving the World Series clinching game was okay.
If you have nothing to add to the discussion. Continue sniffing glue.
by defensive indifference on Jan 19, 2009 3:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
In comparison to other relievers
especially first year relievers, he’s set a record. I think we can agree he hasn’t been the best reliever in the history of the arbitration era, and the economy makes it look worse.
by Daniel Berlyn on Jan 19, 2009 3:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It may be as simple as
he has more saves than any of them. The arbitration process is not supposed to be the most advance when it comes to compensating these guys.
Getting the last out in 2005 also has to be worth something.
by VictorB on Jan 19, 2009 3:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Who got the last out last year in the playoff?
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by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT
by winningugly on Jan 19, 2009 4:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
you're right.
uribe was overpaid last season.
Jerry [Owens] is considered to be a leadoff hitter.
by larry on Jan 19, 2009 4:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No, that would be Paulie.
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by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT
by winningugly on Jan 19, 2009 4:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I've seen this coming for years
and have written about it numerous times
it’s about saves… you get paid for the useless stat, and Jenks has more saves than anyone entering arbitration ever (I think)
Papelbon has 113, Jenks 117
Kaz Sasaki is the only one with more entering his arb years, and I don’t know if he actually went to arb.. His first three years weren’t at near-minimum, so he’s not a good comp anyway
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by The Cheat on Jan 19, 2009 3:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Not with K-Rod, et.al. getting $10-13MM/year contracts it isn't.
Although if we are a .500 team this year one might argue we’d have been better off selling high, since saves won’t be quite as important as when you are in a one-game playoff for the division championship. Maybe KW is convinced we can still contend. And who’s to say he’s wrong?
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by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT
by winningugly on Jan 19, 2009 3:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
he's not expensive this year.
it’s next year. trade him midseason if you’re out of contention. gagne trade anyone?
Jerry [Owens] is considered to be a leadoff hitter.
by larry on Jan 19, 2009 4:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
it doesn't seem like theres a big market for closers
larry has that system down to a science. Especially with the way the economy is….big wigs like larry coming in dressed in their mink coats and 24k gold cigarrete holders with pockets lined with coke make for a large draw during shift changes.
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
by Jbasic89 on Jan 19, 2009 4:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
which would be why you trade at midseason and not now, no?
Jerry [Owens] is considered to be a leadoff hitter.
by larry on Jan 19, 2009 4:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
There is for good ones.
I don’t consider Fuentes in Jenks’ league.
I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT
by winningugly on Jan 19, 2009 4:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Midseason is the best time to trade a closer
and he would be worth more than Gagne was if he maintains
by Daniel Berlyn on Jan 19, 2009 4:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
attrition is the white sox' friend.
Jerry [Owens] is considered to be a leadoff hitter.
by larry on Jan 19, 2009 4:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You think?
He’s worth more if he doesn’t maintain. Gagne was questionable because of his (alleged) use of steroids and injury history.
I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT
by winningugly on Jan 19, 2009 4:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
he was lights out prior to the trade
I never thought this day would ever happen. I won't have to worry about putting gas in my car. I won't have to worry about paying my mortgage.
by larry on Jan 19, 2009 4:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
To TX, or to BOS?
Agreed he looked unhittable when at TX.
I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT
by winningugly on Jan 19, 2009 4:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
he's only been traded once.
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by larry on Jan 19, 2009 4:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh - I looked on BR and saw 3 teams in 2007.
Was he waived?
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by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT
by winningugly on Jan 19, 2009 4:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
you're doing it wrong.
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by larry on Jan 19, 2009 4:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
(There isn't a team called Total)
EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine
by Sox Machine on Jan 19, 2009 5:12 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
lol
I don't need to look at fancy stats
to see if a guy is good or not. You might have to.
by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 30, 2008 4:16 PM CST
by omnipotent grab on Jan 19, 2009 6:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Funny, Jim.
I thought it was a mistake and he was with LA to start the season. But thanks for the helpful feedback.
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by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT
by winningugly on Jan 19, 2009 7:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
maybe there wasn't a market for him this year
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Jan 19, 2009 5:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Papelbon will make more as a first-time eligible reliever this year according to AP.
by VictorB on Jan 19, 2009 3:42 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
i would assume hes better than jenks
larry has that system down to a science. Especially with the way the economy is….big wigs like larry coming in dressed in their mink coats and 24k gold cigarrete holders with pockets lined with coke make for a large draw during shift changes.
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
by Jbasic89 on Jan 19, 2009 3:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
cy de la rosa signs for $2M
pours vinegar on ground for SSH.
http://blogs.denverpost.com/rockies/2009/01/19/de-la-rosa-avoids-arb-with-2-million-deal/
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by larry on Jan 19, 2009 4:25 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Wow.
That’s a lot of jack for someone who had no business beating us.
I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT
by winningugly on Jan 19, 2009 4:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i know.
2.5 wins. $11M+. no clue how he managed to beat the white sox. i’m glad the sox refused to accept the al central trophy.
http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=2047&position=P#value
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by larry on Jan 19, 2009 4:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
guy had 94 mph gas as an LHP and was starting
and SSH can’t figure out why he just might have some promise. ftw.
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
by colintj on Jan 19, 2009 9:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
like clayton richard?
larry has that system down to a science. Especially with the way the economy is….big wigs like larry coming in dressed in their mink coats and 24k gold cigarrete holders with pockets lined with coke make for a large draw during shift changes.
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
by Jbasic89 on Jan 19, 2009 9:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
not really.
like with an out pitch. and clayton isn’t going to sit 92-94.
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
by colintj on Jan 19, 2009 9:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
no he does sit at 94mph
larry has that system down to a science. Especially with the way the economy is….big wigs like larry coming in dressed in their mink coats and 24k gold cigarrete holders with pockets lined with coke make for a large draw during shift changes.
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
by Jbasic89 on Jan 19, 2009 10:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
normally, "for the win"
but there, it’s really “fuck the what”.
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
by colintj on Jan 19, 2009 9:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I used to think it meant fuck the what
and quite frankly am glad to see it used that way
by Daniel Berlyn on Jan 19, 2009 10:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm fine w/ the 5.6
I’m also fine w/ going 9 next year if need be b/c Dotel will be coming off the books. Having Jenks w/ Thornton and Linebrink seems like a good way to go.
by Crede's Crew on Jan 19, 2009 4:50 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
of course you're fine with it. you've got a thing for fatties.
duh.
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by larry on Jan 19, 2009 4:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
hahaha
I hadn’t thought of it that way.
by Crede's Crew on Jan 19, 2009 10:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Seeking to commemorate Barack Obama’s inauguration Tuesday—and no doubt bring in more business—Krispy Kreme is offering “a free doughnut of choice to every customer on this historic day.”
The offer is about “honoring American’s [sic] sense of pride and freedom of choice,” the chain said in a news release. “Stores nationwide are making an oath to tasty goodies—just another reminder of how oh-so-sweet ‘free’ can be.”
…
“The unfortunate reality of a post Roe v. Wade America is that ‘choice’ is synonymous with abortion access and celebration of ‘freedom of choice’ is a tacit endorsement of abortion rights on demand,” American Life League President Judie Brown said in a news release. “The next time you stare down a conveyor belt of slow-moving, hot, sugary glazed donuts at your local Krispy Kreme you just might be supporting President-elect Barack Obama’s radical support for abortion on demand.”
every time you eat a donut from krispy kreme, a fetus is aborted.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-talk-donut-mon-nujan19,0,7766964.story
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by larry on Jan 19, 2009 4:56 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
in that case, give me a dozen
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Jan 19, 2009 5:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sorry, is this Huffington's site?
Or can we talk about the goddamn White Sox?
Man, someone should put up a FanPost about appropriate baseball content…
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by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT
by winningugly on Jan 19, 2009 7:07 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I wanna see at least one of those Cubans
and another pitcher signed yet. And how about Contreras? Is it possible he could be pitching by mid-May?
by dantesox on Jan 19, 2009 5:01 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I mean....
is he like throwing hard off a mound already, or throwing like one of those people at the Cell throwing out the first pitch?
by dantesox on Jan 19, 2009 5:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
the braves just released francisley bueno.
you know. another one of those major league ready cuban defectors.
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by larry on Jan 19, 2009 5:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sayin'
we should give them any real money…..but if they think one or both might help…..
by dantesox on Jan 19, 2009 5:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
could just sign some real major leaguers.
i know, i know. off the wall idea.
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by larry on Jan 19, 2009 5:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
or we could legally monopolize the Cuban baseball market.
but who cares about having a whole country on your side?
by Daniel Berlyn on Jan 19, 2009 5:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, I'm with ya.....
it’s just that I don’t think the Sox actually wanna spend real money, which is why I say we ink the Cubans if they’re deemed worthy by those knowledgeable Sox people.
by dantesox on Jan 19, 2009 5:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not sayin’ we should give them any real money
LOL!
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Jan 19, 2009 5:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think he was supposed to be as good was he?
"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."
by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."
by Tdogg on Jan 19, 2009 5:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
His last name certainly suggests it.
EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine
by Sox Machine on Jan 19, 2009 5:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
he was supposed to be bueno. francisley bueno.
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by larry on Jan 19, 2009 5:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
seriously, that corrupt agent whose name escapes me paid a couple hundred grand to smuggle the guy into the US. so he was supposed to be worth something.
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by larry on Jan 19, 2009 5:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
lol
I was just looking at his early scouting reports.
"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."
by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."
by Tdogg on Jan 19, 2009 5:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Cubans are old hat now
it’s Indians we should be looking at, like the Pirates
number one when it mattered!
by hoodlight on Jan 19, 2009 5:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I have to admit I am a little saddened today.
My dreams of one day acquiring Nick Markakis are put on hold for a few years….. i have a serious man crush on that guy….
He’s so dreamy
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Jan 19, 2009 5:20 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
What you thought he's be traded or something?
This the O’s
"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."
by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."
by Tdogg on Jan 19, 2009 5:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
eh i figured they might dump him eventually
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Jan 19, 2009 5:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
they aren't going to suck forever. he's 25.
that’s called a building block.
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by larry on Jan 19, 2009 5:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know...
they’ve sucked pretty hard the past 12 years or so and are in the division with 4 of the best teams in the game…. I think they will be a last place team throughout the duration of his contract.
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Jan 20, 2009 7:06 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
and that is unfortunate because if i had to root for a team other than the sox
it is the orioles
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Jan 20, 2009 7:06 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i'm more of a Q! guy
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Jan 19, 2009 5:40 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
so. dreamy.
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
by colintj on Jan 19, 2009 8:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I jizzed in my pants.
I don't need to look at fancy stats
to see if a guy is good or not. You might have to.
by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 30, 2008 4:16 PM CST
by omnipotent grab on Jan 19, 2009 9:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
freddy news
There has been some speculation that the White Sox are no longer interested in Garcia after they signed another injury-prone veteran Bartolo Colon last week. That’s not necessarily true. Given Colon’s physical troubles over the past three seasons, there is still plenty of interest in Garcia on the South Side. And even if Colon does manage to stay off the disabled list, they still need a No. 5 starter… If they get Garcia, that buys more time to develop promising left-hander Aaron Poreda.
http://blogs.dailyherald.com/node/1271
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by larry on Jan 19, 2009 5:29 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I didnt know a Cowley article
Qualifies as speculation. More like mindless rants.
"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."
by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."
by Tdogg on Jan 19, 2009 5:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
forgot to add, supposedly he's signing this week
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by larry on Jan 19, 2009 5:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Understanding the Real Value of MLBAM and MLB Network
http://bizofbaseball.com/index.php?understanding-the-real-value-of-mlbam-and-mlb-network…
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Jan 19, 2009 5:58 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
who wanted to send prospects to the rangers for michael young?
“Put it this way. If the Rangers offered up Michael Young for free—with that contract, I don’t think there would be any takers.” —Anonymous MLB general manager
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=8423
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Jan 19, 2009 6:14 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Remember...
The same was true of Manny Ramirez. That just means the Rangers would have to eat a big chunk of his salary to make a trade work.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on Jan 19, 2009 6:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
seems like a contract going until 2013 is a slightly different proposition than a few months.
like, a difference between $7M and $65M.
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by larry on Jan 19, 2009 6:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
jenks held the record for all of about 22 hours.
papelbon agrees to $6.25M.
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by larry on Jan 20, 2009 2:17 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Arbitration knows not the economy
Replacing "Chicago Tough" with "Cuban Pride"
by Brush Back on Jan 20, 2009 2:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
indeed. explicitly not allowed to argue it.
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by larry on Jan 20, 2009 2:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Aren't they all settling without arbitration?
by BoxingHideout on Jan 20, 2009 8:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes - but they have to settle knowing that the economy can not be a factor if it goes to arbitration
Replacing "Chicago Tough" with "Cuban Pride"
by Brush Back on Jan 20, 2009 10:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
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