Colon had off-season surgery for bone chips
Veteran pitcher Bartolo Colon's return to the White Sox' rotation has hit a speed bump.
General manager Ken Williams revealed Wednesday that Colon underwent surgery in the fall to remove bone chips from his right elbow, a procedure that will keep the big right-hander off the mound when the Sox open spring training Feb. 15 in Glendale, Ariz.
''We'll bring him along in the second half of spring training,'' Williams said.
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yes. a speed bump that the white sox knew about when they signed him considering the procedure occurred last fall
and don cooper alluded to days ago. don’t need to make shit up in your lead, chris.
Obama said he would have to instill "some flinty Chicago toughness" into Washingtonians.
TY.
Has Mr. Michaels reared his ugly head again? Can we hire Blago to whack him?
I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT
I think he meant Chris DeLuca...
of the S-T, not the porn star.
"A good cigar is like a beautiful chick with a great body who also knows the American League box scores. "
Klinger
Oh - my bad.
Didn’t click the article.
I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT
WHAT A SHOCKER!!!
Coop must be upset, how did the managment not know anything about this? Its not like he had this done months ago
OT: Limbaugh? Sounds more like WU:
And there’s a very telling passage, in which Limbaugh says, "The culture, we’ve lost the culture Sean. We have lost pop culture. It is unrealistic to expect that people watching MTV, going to see the rot Hollywood’s putting out, listening to the rot music is today, that every four years they’re going to go into a voting booth and vote Republican, vote conservative."
After years of attempts to make conservatism cool somehow, this is its new face, much the same as it ever was: a cranky old man complaining about the movies and music the young people like these days.
As if to underscore the point, later in the program Hannity brings in Pat Boone to comment on the week’s news. Pat Boone.
http://thismodernworld.com/4652
"A good cigar is like a beautiful chick with a great body who also knows the American League box scores. "
Klinger
I cringe. I am no more Limbaugh than you are Jerry Brown, you OPOS.
I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT
his conservatism is his problem.
AHHHHHHHHHHHH SHIT’SGONECRAZYIWANNAGETOFFBUTIDON’THAVETHEBALLSTO JUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUMMMMMMP
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
hee
"A good cigar is like a beautiful chick with a great body who also knows the American League box scores. "
Klinger
uribe to san fran
minor league deal potentially worth $1M
Obama said he would have to instill "some flinty Chicago toughness" into Washingtonians.
Down from $4.5MM. And he had a decent year.
And Crede wants a raise. As I said before, good luck, Joe!
I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT
kind of had a shitty year, actually.
worth about a half a million last year, according to fangraph’s computation. his failure to return to being a reasonable defender made him rubbish.
Obama said he would have to instill "some flinty Chicago toughness" into Washingtonians.
yeah
Fields can easily replace the 20 errors in 100 games
"Thats terrible." - President Obama at the Commander-In-Chief Ball, to a soldier in Afghanistan from Chicago after Mr. President asked him if he was a Cubs fan or a Sox fan and the grunt said Cub fan. Out of the seven Chicagoland sodiers, 4 said Cubs, 3 said Sox.
CoraCamp dudes...he's the next Brooks Robinson.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jan 29, 2009 3:41 PM CST up reply actions
Looks like a graduate of CoraCamp
Kittle’s Camp got nuttin’ on Joey.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jan 29, 2009 3:57 PM CST up reply actions
One of the great plays
in the history of Sport.
"I am not going out like SSH. "
by WTGTD, 12/3/08
how do you know he wasn't a reasonable defender?
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
i watched him all year and stated on here almost from the start of the season that i was disappointed in his defense.
many metrics back me up.
Obama said he would have to instill "some flinty Chicago toughness" into Washingtonians.
let me clarify because i see this may be unclear.
he was probably fine as a defender. the problem is that fine doesn’t cut it when your bat is putrid. you have to be plus plus to make up for it. that’s what i mean by reasonable.
Obama said he would have to instill "some flinty Chicago toughness" into Washingtonians.
for a utility infielder, isn't that par for the course?
~ 3/4 -1 WAR is probably avg right?
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
sure. but he didn't do that, did he.
Obama said he would have to instill "some flinty Chicago toughness" into Washingtonians.
7.5 runs (def+pos adj) + replev bat is my (perhaps optimistic) eval.
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
er.
that’s if he played a full season. that’s what i was trying to say. 3/4 – 1 WAR per full season are what you pay for. you end up getting half of that or whatever if no one gets injured.
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
fangraphs has him basically worth nothing last year.
i defer to their calculation. because i agree with it. i expected plus defense, especially at a lesser position. he didn’t provide it. he wasn’t worth the money. c’est la vie.
Obama said he would have to instill "some flinty Chicago toughness" into Washingtonians.
i don't like using UZR for a season.
so i think we’re just talking about what we feel Uribe was worth. but yeah, whatever.
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
plus minus thought he wasn't good either.
like i said, i’m not the only one who thought he’s lost his defense.
Obama said he would have to instill "some flinty Chicago toughness" into Washingtonians.
He may have sucked,
but he sucked less than anyone else we could’ve had. That is, he was less negative than anyone else. Since we tied, we thus owed our title in part to Uribe not being as bad as any other replacement.
I will continue to believe that.
I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT
i know
and i don’t think you’re off your shit or something.
i just don’t know what the metrics are actually measuring in situations like this. i know fangraphs uses UZR for one season to do value, but rolling 3 year averages plus the FSR makes more sense to me. the FSR is probably a lot more responsive afa year to year changes in actual talent are concerned.
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
well, be sure to let me know if you find anything that says his defense hasn't trended downward in the last three years.
Obama said he would have to instill "some flinty Chicago toughness" into Washingtonians.
last three years bUZR weighted 5/4/3 gives ~4 runs at SS
and 1 WAR given the bat.
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
well, i'd say one needs to do a little better than a three year weighted average in evaluating a player. but that's a discussion for another day.
he received the contract he deserves. replacement level, if that.
Obama said he would have to instill "some flinty Chicago toughness" into Washingtonians.
well i did pull the weights totally out of my ass.
frankly, i should be lauded for reversing my personal MO.
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
especially a season where he's all over the diamond.
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
Especially when you take into account
his food consumption – which cost the team god knows how much.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jan 29, 2009 4:20 PM CST up reply actions
last fat Uribe comment probably, fo' eva. :<
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jan 29, 2009 4:20 PM CST up reply actions
noway
we havent seen the last of fat Uribe jokes
"Thats terrible." - President Obama at the Commander-In-Chief Ball, to a soldier in Afghanistan from Chicago after Mr. President asked him if he was a Cubs fan or a Sox fan and the grunt said Cub fan. Out of the seven Chicagoland sodiers, 4 said Cubs, 3 said Sox.
I S2 you larry
So, if I am reading the two options correctly . . .
we can either a) keep dye or b) trade dye . . . is that you Phil Rogers?
by jc2313 on Dec 11, 2008 4:53 PM CST up reply recommended Unrec 1
by Where Triples Go to Die on Jan 30, 2009 9:53 AM CST up reply actions
*3/4-1 WAR per season players
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
For him he had a decent year, and for us it clearly was fortunate
he was on the roster, as we never would’ve won the division. I’d take issue with Fangraph just because of that. (What were they playoffs worth, financially? I believe he paid for himself just with that.)
I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT
i advocated him being on the roster.
and i don’t regret that position. i thought he’d rebound defensively to make him worth the contract (assuming he played enough, which was rather the point of having an insurance policy like him on the team). unfortunately, he didn’t. sox may have overpaid but i’m not sure they could have gotten someone for a similar price to do the job any better. you usually overpay for insurance anyway, even if you draw on it.
Obama said he would have to instill "some flinty Chicago toughness" into Washingtonians.
lillibridge will probably be fine there
even if he can’t hit either. at least that’s what i remember hearing about his glove.
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
Lilli may not end up there.
Lots of competition, even if we have somewhat underwhelming/unproven choices.
I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT
he's got the inside track considering he's the only choice who actually can play SS
Obama said he would have to instill "some flinty Chicago toughness" into Washingtonians.
I thought we were talking about 3B.
Or do you mean “utility guy”?
I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT
we're not talking about third
Obama said he would have to instill "some flinty Chicago toughness" into Washingtonians.
If Lillibridge makes the team...
Who gets left off? Anderson?
by The Jerry Royster Experience on Jan 29, 2009 5:55 PM CST up reply actions
Nix is in the same boat.
Four bench slots -
1. Backup catcher (Corky Miller right now)
2. Betemit
3. Wise
4. ? (Anderson or Lillibridge or Nix)
by The Jerry Royster Experience on Jan 29, 2009 7:50 PM CST up reply actions
I think Anderson is gone
and Lillibridge plays some CF.
Further prognostication as events warrant….
by hitlesswonder on Jan 29, 2009 8:31 PM CST up reply actions
I don't think
you will have Owens and Wise on the opening day roster. I think they are planning on a L/R platoon in CF . . . with Owens/Anderson. ST certainly could change that.
Wise is the guy they signed for guaranteed money
and they certainly didn’t have to do that. I think there’s a decent chance it’s a Wise/BA platoon.
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
very well could
happen. I, like many others, do not understand Wise getting guaranteed money. Flip of a coin that will probably be decided by ST and health.
Lillibridge won't be needed unless Alexei's injured.
Betemit can play there in a pinch, but Alexei should be filling OC’s. It’d probably be good to let Liilibridge work on his bat anyway. If he figures it out, there’s going to be room somewhere on the infield most likely.
And I have BA starting in center anyway. I assume you have The Jerry Owens Experience? I’m not even going to think about that until it actually happens.
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
ba starting in center?
what planet do you live on?
So, if I am reading the two options correctly . . .
we can either a) keep dye or b) trade dye . . . is that you Phil Rogers?
by jc2313 on Dec 11, 2008 4:53 PM CST up reply recommended Unrec 1
by Where Triples Go to Die on Jan 30, 2009 9:54 AM CST up reply actions
bridge can steal 40+ bases/year
ozzie will have him out there.
So, if I am reading the two options correctly . . .
we can either a) keep dye or b) trade dye . . . is that you Phil Rogers?
by jc2313 on Dec 11, 2008 4:53 PM CST up reply recommended Unrec 1
by Where Triples Go to Die on Jan 30, 2009 9:53 AM CST up reply actions
It's amazing...
That they managed to find Wilson Betemit, who is worse with both the bat and the glove than Uribe is.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on Jan 29, 2009 6:03 PM CST up reply actions
yeah, i don't where jre comes up with this shit. i sure missed his ridiculousness.
Obama said he would have to instill "some flinty Chicago toughness" into Washingtonians.
CHONE 2009 projected wOBA
Uribe: .303
Betemit: .340
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
The only way Betemit posts a .340 OBP is if he bats .310.
And he won’t bat .310.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on Jan 30, 2009 8:00 AM CST up reply actions
reading is fundamental.
Obama said he would have to instill "some flinty Chicago toughness" into Washingtonians.
crede
And Crede wants a raise. As I said before, good luck, Joe!
THURSDAY: Christensen heard Crede looked good at the workout and drew new contract offers (none from the Twins). Crede apparently wants a base salary above the $5.1MM he earned last year, plus incentives. Jon Heyman confirms the Giants’ attendance.
WEDNESDAY: According to Joe Christensen of the Minneapolis Star-Tribune, Joe Crede worked out for scouts in Arizona today. The Twins were apparently in attendance. We’ll update the post if more attendees are revealed; the Giants were supposed to be there according to Nick Cafardo.
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2009/01/joe-crede-worko.html
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
First Nick,
then Orlando, then Javier, then Juan and soon Blago. I can’t take it…
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jan 29, 2009 3:49 PM CST up reply actions
+1
"A good cigar is like a beautiful chick with a great body who also knows the American League box scores. "
Klinger
for the cip
"A good cigar is like a beautiful chick with a great body who also knows the American League box scores. "
Klinger
That "reply" button is a mother
when you have the DT’s, ain’t it, Chi?
I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT
Blago claims behavior was just an elaborate plan to surprise Patrick Fitzgerald with
Senate Nomination on his birthday.
SPRINGFIELD, IL—As his impeachment trial began Monday, Illinois governor Rod Blagojevich kicked off a national media tour to explain that his alleged senatorial pay-to-play scheme was merely an elaborate plot to surprise U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald with a Senate seat on his birthday. “You try to do something nice for someone, and look what happens,” the embattled governor told reporters at a press conference during which he unveiled a birthday cake for Fitzgerald. “People get wind of it, so you try to cover up the big party you planned, then things get out of hand and the story ends up involving a children’s hospital, threats to the Tribune, and a half-million-dollar bribe. Next thing you know, you’re getting investigated by the very person you wanted to do something nice for! Pat, I’m sorry your birthday surprise was spoiled.” Before taking questions, Blagojevich changed into a plumber’s outfit and attempted to sneak out of the room, saying in a thick Italian accent that the toilet was backed up and he had to fix it right away.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
link to his speech plz?
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
i want a link to the actual speech
have a little more faith.
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
for a 20 something, you sure have trouble searching the internet.
Obama said he would have to instill "some flinty Chicago toughness" into Washingtonians.
trouble with laziness is more to the point.
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
seems easier to type into a search engine than to make three posts about it.
Obama said he would have to instill "some flinty Chicago toughness" into Washingtonians.
stupidity then?
works for me.
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
monsignor
So, if I am reading the two options correctly . . .
we can either a) keep dye or b) trade dye . . . is that you Phil Rogers?
by jc2313 on Dec 11, 2008 4:53 PM CST up reply recommended Unrec 1
by Where Triples Go to Die on Jan 30, 2009 11:09 AM CST up reply actions
Even Ricky didn't get 100%.
Nice. I bet it jacks up his esteem. “Look, I’m perfect!”
I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT
damn. dude got hosed.
I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.
by thatshortkid on Jan 29, 2009 6:18 PM CST up reply actions
Blago
What poor sap has to go around and erase Blago’s name from all the “Open Road Tolling” signs on the Illinois tollway system?
"No one is sure what Colon has left in his 5-foot-11-inch, 250-plus-pound body." - Chicago Tribune 1/15/09
Plenty of time to visit Wrigley now, buddy!
But will he be able to afford the tickets?
"No one is sure what Colon has left in his 5-foot-11-inch, 250-plus-pound body." - Chicago Tribune 1/15/09
My prediction
In five to ten years (depending on successful prosecution/length of sentence), Blago will host a daytime talk show a la springer.
He certainly has the lack of shame required… and the hair.
White Sox '09 Slogan: Maybe we can?
so the triple sock is now complete
chicago’s chief = sox fan
illinois’ chief = sox fan
america’s chief = sox fan
YOU CAN PUT IT ON THE BOARDDDDDDDDDDDDD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
Guillen expects return to small ball
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
so the trick is still on!
also, i like the caption being about ramirez, but the picture is dye sliding
I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.
by thatshortkid on Jan 29, 2009 7:38 PM CST up reply actions
Well, guys in black all look alike, right?
I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT
White Sox appear in good financial shape
The Sox are likely to sign Quentin, Danks and Floyd to one-year contracts instead of multiyear deals that would buy them out of at least the first year of arbitration.
The risk is that another successful year could cost the Sox more money. That was the case with Jenks, whose representatives were intent on signing a one-year deal in 2008.
Nevertheless, the Sox retain some financial flexibility. They are committed to only $36.6 million in salaries for 2010.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/chi-30-white-sox-chicagojan30,0,7436982.story
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
Marquez to debut in rotation?
The Daily Herald reports that White Sox GM Kenny Williams has recently been very high on pitching prospect Jefferey Marquez. It is believed the rookie is a strong candidate to fill the No. 5 spot in the team’s rotation.
Our View: Marquez came over from the Yankees in the Nick Swisher deal. He has a good sinker to go with a strong fastball and curveball. If he shows quality control this spring, he just might be a deep-sleeper in fantasy drafts.
http://www.rototimes.com/mlb/player.php?tqid=6901&type=news&nid=125097
3 good pitches?
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
I'd be shocked if Marquez didn't make the team.
He’s Masset all over again. He’ll get two seasons of suck at the big league level before the team gives up on him.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on Jan 29, 2009 10:30 PM CST up reply actions
He's gonna be good dood
watch and learn
by Crede's Crew on Jan 30, 2009 3:42 AM CST up reply actions
Anything positive to report this year, JRE?
Coming out of the chute with the negative waves. Not enough singles potential? Owens’ virtual lock on CF should bring you major wood.
I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT
Jerry Owens sucks.
That won’t stop him from winning the CF job, though.
I’m interested to see what Chris Getz can do.
I think Clayton Richard can be a good reliever.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on Jan 30, 2009 8:28 AM CST up reply actions
Thanks. Crumbs, but thanks.
I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT
White Sox Proving Cautious With Spending
White Sox officials told CBSSports.com’s Danny Knobler that owner Jerry Reinsdorf presented a bleak economic picture at the start of the offseason and that the club is “comfortable going young.”
GM Ken Williams elaborated on the point: “We have to be cautious, if for no other reason that so we don’t have to play all day games because we can’t afford the electricity. This is such a volatile time, and people are going to look at their discretionary spending.”
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2009/01/white-sox-provi.html
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
I'm comfortable with it too.
We still have enough core talent to win the division. That’s fine by me.
by Crede's Crew on Jan 29, 2009 9:40 PM CST up reply actions
Giants Sign Juan Uribe to Minor League Deal
http://www.baycityball.com/2009/01/29/giants-sign-juan-uribe-to-minor-league-deal/
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
Rotator Cuff 101 Illustratfed
http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/1/29/739765/the-socket-joint-rotator-c
h/t http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2009/1/29/740381/rotator-cuff-101
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
Giants sign Uribe. Good news for a guy who was rather painful to watch at the plate and in the field.
Joe Crede wants more money from the Twins? I am curious to see what quality of Mary Jane the Missouri farm boy gets out in the sticks or if he has just cut out the middle man and gone straight to the crystal meth. Next thing you know we will be seeing Joe on an episode of “Dog the Bounty Hunter” getting chewed out by Dog in the backseat of his gas guzzler about using ice.
Colon is a low-risk situation. They could cut him loose by the end of spring with as many protections as the Sox have in that deal.
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