White Sox Newsgasm
by The Cheat on Jan 30, 2009 12:11 AM CST
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PrintSo SoxFest, an event for which I've never understood the appeal, opens today. And that means we've had a number of Sox articles in the past few days, with more on the way, I'm sure.
- Here's your typical Ozzieball article.
- Mark Gonzales writes that the Sox are in good financial shape, a point we can't really argue. But it doesn't help the bumping against the payroll ceiling '09 Sox, who, despite "slashing payroll," figure to trim 10% or less (year over year) from their functional '08 payroll.
- Scott Linebrink is throwing without pain, but Colon isn't.
- Yes Larry, I know I'm a day late with this link -- what can I say? I haven't been around much this week -- but Williams sat down with the media on Wednesday, De Luca seemed to have the best recap.
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a pretty weak newsgasm
larry has that system down to a science. Especially with the way the economy is….big wigs like larry coming in dressed in their mink coats and 24k gold cigarrete holders with pockets lined with coke make for a large draw during shift changes.
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm getting
really bad vibes about Sox’ OFFENSIVE performance to be this season (as the team is currently constructed).
Age – Konerko, Thome, Dye, AJ.
Lack of pedigree (or previous unrealized pedigree) – Getz, Anderson, JO, Betemit, Wise, Lillibridge, Nix
Youth – New Cuban.
Who’s left? Q!, Alexei, nada mas.
But remember, it’s pitching, pitching, pitching.
"I am not going out like SSH. "
by WTGTD, 12/3/08
BTW,
what up with the 2 Cubans who defected a few months ago? A 20 year old OFer and a 31 year old SP.
We need them both. ASAP.
"I am not going out like SSH. "
by WTGTD, 12/3/08
Nothing new on the web since 1/11/09.
"I am not going out like SSH. "
by WTGTD, 12/3/08
Well, I guess we'll find out...
Which of these young guys are any good.
Then the team can use some of that payroll flexibility in 2010 to fill in the gaps.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on Jan 30, 2009 7:52 AM CST up reply actions
too bad the free agent market blows for next offseason
Michael Phelps can swim faster than you can run. He can probably swim faster than you can break the sound barrier. If you and a friend are swimming, and Michael Phelps is coming to eat you, you only have to be faster than your friend.
Just kidding. Michael Phelps will catch up with and eat the shit out of both of you.
Teams will still be looking to unload salary.
Teams willing to take on payroll are always in good shape.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on Jan 30, 2009 8:07 AM CST up reply actions
Also...
I wish I had your confidence re: Ramirez. I am just nervous about a guy who walked as rarely as he did and displayed all those defensive problems.
I think that at least a couple of the kids will turn out okay. Damned if I know which ones though.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on Jan 30, 2009 9:03 AM CST up reply actions
Moving him to SS is worth it to just find out of he can play the position
2009 should be filled with that sort of thing — auditions to find out what the Sox have for 2010.
by hitlesswonder on Jan 30, 2009 10:30 AM CST up reply actions
Did you really notice "all those defensive problems,"
or are you referring to the defensive metrics.
"I am not going out like SSH. "
by WTGTD, 12/3/08
I don't know defense
but I know what I like.
I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT
by winningugly on Jan 30, 2009 11:26 AM CST up reply actions
I don't know anything
But I can act like I do.
Vinny Del Negro interviewed for the job today. I mean come on! Nobody else thinks this is nuts?
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 6, 2008 4:21 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Ozzie Montana on Jan 30, 2009 11:30 AM CST up reply actions
I don't know much
But I know I love you.
And that may be all I need to know.
EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine
by Sox Machine on Jan 30, 2009 11:36 AM CST up reply actions
LOL - STFU.
(For some reason, your knowledge of pop music cracks me up, Jim.)
I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT
Did you think he sucked?
Scale 1 – 10, his defense?
"I am not going out like SSH. "
by WTGTD, 12/3/08
I haven't seen any defensive metrics on Ramirez.
Why, do you think Ramirez was good at second?
Not that he’ll necessarily be bad at short, but there’s room for doubt there.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on Jan 30, 2009 11:41 AM CST up reply actions
Ground covered a few times now Jer
"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."
by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."
Talk to bally.
He brought it up.
I didn’t think I was saying anything particularly controversial.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on Jan 30, 2009 12:38 PM CST up reply actions
what a sniveling coward...
alexei had almost as good a rookie year as iguchi and look how great he’s become.
I saw him make a few dumb errors
but more very good to great plays.
"I am not going out like SSH. "
by WTGTD, 12/3/08
Fair enough.
I also give Ramirez credit for playing out of position – that’s not easy.
To me he seemed clearly talented, but really shaky. I guess we’ll see more soon.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on Jan 30, 2009 1:34 PM CST up reply actions
I think this point deserves a detailed discussion
as it is something that has never been covered on here before
number one when it mattered!
This offseason fucking sucks
draw 2.6 mil, go to the playoffs, raise ticket prices, and…………cut payroll.
anyone think we will offer dye arbitration next year? I doubt it.
Dye has a mutual option,
not arbitration, so yes I doubt they offer him arbitration too.
FifthFeather.com
by El Duque's Raft on Jan 30, 2009 8:27 AM CST up reply actions
and if the option is declined, he's a free agent to whom one would be able to offer arbitration.
Obama said he would have to instill "some flinty Chicago toughness" into Washingtonians.
"...never understood the appeal..."
Every Sox fan should go once… truthfully that is more than enough. This will be my third or fourth time, but I am taking my son, so for me its more about a get away with him.
Not go, miss the crowds, the waiting in lines… never. The comradre is cool though.
Replacing "Chicago Tough" with "Cuban Pride"
how much does it cost
i kinda want to go next year
Michael Phelps can swim faster than you can run. He can probably swim faster than you can break the sound barrier. If you and a friend are swimming, and Michael Phelps is coming to eat you, you only have to be faster than your friend.
Just kidding. Michael Phelps will catch up with and eat the shit out of both of you.
They have 3 different options
Replacing "Chicago Tough" with "Cuban Pride"
thank you
Michael Phelps can swim faster than you can run. He can probably swim faster than you can break the sound barrier. If you and a friend are swimming, and Michael Phelps is coming to eat you, you only have to be faster than your friend.
Just kidding. Michael Phelps will catch up with and eat the shit out of both of you.
Side note
when does the hardball times season preview ship?
Michael Phelps can swim faster than you can run. He can probably swim faster than you can break the sound barrier. If you and a friend are swimming, and Michael Phelps is coming to eat you, you only have to be faster than your friend.
Just kidding. Michael Phelps will catch up with and eat the shit out of both of you.
nice
Michael Phelps can swim faster than you can run. He can probably swim faster than you can break the sound barrier. If you and a friend are swimming, and Michael Phelps is coming to eat you, you only have to be faster than your friend.
Just kidding. Michael Phelps will catch up with and eat the shit out of both of you.
Anybody getting the impression that Cowley doesn't live here anymore?
SoxFest week, Kenny/Ozzie sitting with the media, and DeLuca is writing it up instead of the beat writer? Maybe that’s why no Twitters For Bobby?
Then again, with the new tabloid Trib maybe there won’t be a Sun-Times by the ASB…
"A good cigar is like a beautiful chick with a great body who also knows the American League box scores. "
Klinger
ah. missed that.
"A good cigar is like a beautiful chick with a great body who also knows the American League box scores. "
Klinger
50 Days since the last twitter
like an empty pit in my soul.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jan 30, 2009 9:44 AM CST up reply actions
i can't even imagine how that feels...
maybe something like the ’07 season?
"A good cigar is like a beautiful chick with a great body who also knows the American League box scores. "
Klinger
Close
Like getting home after a long friggin day and opening the fridge to get a beer and there isn’t any beer because your polish nanny drank it all.
That feeling.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jan 30, 2009 10:04 AM CST up reply actions
Goodbye litte Juan. You will be missed. It’s official, Juan Uribe signs a minor-league deal with the Giants. 57 minutes ago
gee i wonder if a.j. is on their radar too
I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.
by thatshortkid on Jan 30, 2009 1:17 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, they love him in SF.
I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT
if we get half of what the Twins got for him
Im all over it!
"Thats terrible." - President Obama at the Commander-In-Chief Ball, to a soldier in Afghanistan from Chicago after Mr. President asked him if he was a Cubs fan or a Sox fan and the grunt said Cub fan. Out of the seven Chicagoland sodiers, 4 said Cubs, 3 said Sox.
good news bobby
Looking forward to the opening of SoxFest today? So are we, and that’s why we have our veteran Sox reporter Joe Cowley providing unique coverage.
Cowley will be Twittering from SoxFest. He’ll be sending news and notes from behind the scenes.
Cowley also will be sending pictures from SoxFest. Follow Joe’s unique coverage throughout the weekend!
http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/1406004,cowley-sox-twitter-013009.article
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
My prayers have been answered!
Thank you jeebus! Oops, I just peed on leg.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jan 30, 2009 2:52 PM CST up reply actions
I'm too lazy....
anyone able to rattle off some 2010 free agents (good ones)? I guess there could be more if Dunn, etc….only sign 1 year deals…
Work on your sales appeal.
We are in a recession. “Lazy” is out. “Flinty” is in.
I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2008/12/2010-mlb-free-a.html
"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."
by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."
Enabler.
I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT
Walking Home Yesterday and I almost got run over
by Ozzie’s limo. Seriously.
I am standing a block down from the Merchandise Mart getting ready to cross the street and this Lincoln Cont. flies through a yellow light and pulls up right in front of me – doors go flying open. Looked like something out of Goodfellas, I thought I was toast – I thought they had me confused with Joey Lombardo Jr. Next thing you know, as I am standing there in shock, Ozzie jumps out of the car gives me a 2 second look and runs across the street into (Bull and Bear, a great bar that I recommend, with many honeys – just opened)…his kid was with him and I also think that murdering Ugueth Urbina has escaped because it looked like he was with him too.
Needless to say, I was too “shocked” to say anything and just stood there and drooled on my worthless self. I wanted to go in and get a cocktail, but the wife was waiting at home for me with the kid…should have gone in, in retrospect and got the lowdown on Marquez. SH*T.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
That my friend, is what's wrong with marriage.
Let’s see:
1. A beer with Ozzie or…
2. Home to the wife and kid.
I can see now why Cowley’s Tweets are such a treat.
"A good cigar is like a beautiful chick with a great body who also knows the American League box scores. "
Klinger
More complicated than that-
Wife had a hair appointment at 6:30pm….I made it home with about 4 minutes to spare. Wife misses hair appointment and my life is disgustingly miserable for the forseeable future.
Of all the days this had to happen, it had to be yesterday. Any other day this week I could have gone in.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jan 30, 2009 10:26 AM CST up reply actions
Like I should talk anyway...
Wife was looking in the mirror after showering last weekend, said to me “I’m getting old and fat… I need a compliment”. I replied “your eyesight is damn near perfect”.
Hello couch.
"A good cigar is like a beautiful chick with a great body who also knows the American League box scores. "
Klinger
by Chiburb on Jan 30, 2009 10:29 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Well, that my friend would get me killed.
My wife is pretty good with a knife.
Sometimes the couch isn’t such a bad thing.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jan 30, 2009 10:42 AM CST up reply actions
bravo
good one chiburb
"Thats terrible." - President Obama at the Commander-In-Chief Ball, to a soldier in Afghanistan from Chicago after Mr. President asked him if he was a Cubs fan or a Sox fan and the grunt said Cub fan. Out of the seven Chicagoland sodiers, 4 said Cubs, 3 said Sox.
I think they have about 20 different beers
but probably not all of the nice Ale’s you Brits like to drink.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jan 30, 2009 1:59 PM CST up reply actions
I always like Whitbread and Newcastle Ales
and my favorite english beer (second favorite of all-time, only to Guinness) is Sammy Smith’s Oatmeal Stout.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jan 30, 2009 2:47 PM CST up reply actions
Those are all tasty beers!
Have you had a Fat Tire? On tap, that it is a very tasty beer (not english though)
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jan 30, 2009 2:56 PM CST up reply actions
I've never liked stout
Newcastle Brown is vile stuff and Whitbread is very bog standard but drinkable at a push. Sam Smiths other beers can be very good, also the cheapest pint you will get.. It’s a very odd company prices have only increased by only in line with alcohol duty and inflation increases since the 1960s and the only places that sell it here are pubs owned by the brewery, it’s about half the price on average to anywhere else.
number one when it mattered!
Interesting
Good to see a brewery only charging what it has to…
Stouts are great in the winter.
I still want to make it to Ireland and tour the Guinness Brewery – taste how a Guinness is supposed to taste.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jan 30, 2009 3:07 PM CST up reply actions
there are lots of good things about Ireland
the main one being the ferry back to Liverpool
number one when it mattered!
I heard Liverpool smells like
rotten eggs and spoiled fish?
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jan 30, 2009 3:14 PM CST up reply actions
Hoodie....I read this book a year or so ago....
it just sparked my memory when Larry mentioned knife wounds..
"wow, yeah. cubs ST should be awesome. have a great time."
-by Larry on Jan. 9, 2009 3:09 PM PST
As someone who has gone to the Guiness factory
three times, trust me when I say skip it. It’s crowded, boring, takes forever and is wildly overpriced.
You would be much better off drinking 10 pints anywhere in Dublin while spending the same amount of money and time as you spend on a tour that rewards you with only one pint.
???
if it sucked why did you go back, not once but twice?
"Thats terrible." - President Obama at the Commander-In-Chief Ball, to a soldier in Afghanistan from Chicago after Mr. President asked him if he was a Cubs fan or a Sox fan and the grunt said Cub fan. Out of the seven Chicagoland sodiers, 4 said Cubs, 3 said Sox.
Each time I was with a different group
My friends thought they had to drink a pint in the factory, then
my wife did.
I learned that no one trusts my judgment.
Fat Tire is okay IMO
Way overrated. Shit was gold at Phish and Dead Show back when it wasn’t available in the midwest and east coast area
Hoytsstash likes Fat Tire....
but I have been putting away the Sierra Nevada Pale Ale like a former Grateful Dead show-goer who knows “Fish” is overrated….
"wow, yeah. cubs ST should be awesome. have a great time."
-by Larry on Jan. 9, 2009 3:09 PM PST
epic fial
you definitely shouldve went in for one.
"Thats terrible." - President Obama at the Commander-In-Chief Ball, to a soldier in Afghanistan from Chicago after Mr. President asked him if he was a Cubs fan or a Sox fan and the grunt said Cub fan. Out of the seven Chicagoland sodiers, 4 said Cubs, 3 said Sox.
Yeah...I goofed...I could have slammed one
got 2 minutes on Marquez info, and ran home deciphering what the f’ Ozzie just said to me.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jan 30, 2009 4:43 PM CST up reply actions
The people of West Michigan wish to be dead
The Fifth Third burger, a monstrosity of five beef patties weighing five-thirds of a pound, dressed with sliced Spam, sausage gravy, fried eggs and a gigantic pickle, looked like a cartoonist’s dish in a Dr. Seuss book.
I believe it is the beast in the middle
Michael Phelps can swim faster than you can run. He can probably swim faster than you can break the sound barrier. If you and a friend are swimming, and Michael Phelps is coming to eat you, you only have to be faster than your friend.
Just kidding. Michael Phelps will catch up with and eat the shit out of both of you.
the funnel cake fries do look amazing though
Michael Phelps can swim faster than you can run. He can probably swim faster than you can break the sound barrier. If you and a friend are swimming, and Michael Phelps is coming to eat you, you only have to be faster than your friend.
Just kidding. Michael Phelps will catch up with and eat the shit out of both of you.
clearly your arteries aren't Chicago Tough®
I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.
by thatshortkid on Jan 30, 2009 1:02 PM CST up reply actions
chocolate covered bananas
Michael Phelps can swim faster than you can run. He can probably swim faster than you can break the sound barrier. If you and a friend are swimming, and Michael Phelps is coming to eat you, you only have to be faster than your friend.
Just kidding. Michael Phelps will catch up with and eat the shit out of both of you.
i'm still trying to figure out what's in the chinese box in the back
general tso’s?
I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.
by thatshortkid on Jan 30, 2009 1:37 PM CST up reply actions
only thing i haven't figured myself
Michael Phelps can swim faster than you can run. He can probably swim faster than you can break the sound barrier. If you and a friend are swimming, and Michael Phelps is coming to eat you, you only have to be faster than your friend.
Just kidding. Michael Phelps will catch up with and eat the shit out of both of you.
Do you eat the baseball too?
Is that dirt or chocolate powder?
Vinny Del Negro interviewed for the job today. I mean come on! Nobody else thinks this is nuts?
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 6, 2008 4:21 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Ozzie Montana on Jan 30, 2009 6:24 PM CST up reply actions
it's poo
Michael Phelps can swim faster than you can run. He can probably swim faster than you can break the sound barrier. If you and a friend are swimming, and Michael Phelps is coming to eat you, you only have to be faster than your friend.
Just kidding. Michael Phelps will catch up with and eat the shit out of both of you.
And I also now dislike the bastards at McCovey Chronicles
Uribe is basically Pedro Feliz with worse defense at third, but with the ability to play short. Had I thought that Uribe would have accepted a minor-league role and a bench job, I would have been making a case for him all along. He doesn’t have any platoon splits, so there isn’t any real advantage to having him start against lefties. There isn’t a huge temptation to start him at third, either, as he was pretty awful last year. He isn’t Joe Crede, who was an ALL-STAR!! last year. Uribe isn’t good — if he were good, he’d be starting somewhere — but his limited skill set matches up well with the Giants.
Only we get to pick on Fatty
Michael Phelps can swim faster than you can run. He can probably swim faster than you can break the sound barrier. If you and a friend are swimming, and Michael Phelps is coming to eat you, you only have to be faster than your friend.
Just kidding. Michael Phelps will catch up with and eat the shit out of both of you.
no more mr. fat guy
Guillen has gotten promising reports from bench coach Joey Cora regarding power-hitting third baseman Dayan Viciedo, 19, who defected from Cuba last year. There had been concerns that Viciedo’s weight would hurt his chances in the majors.
‘’I got great news about the former fat guy,’’ Guillen said with a laugh. ‘’Now he’s a big man. He’s a strong, big kid. When I saw him the first time, he was overweight, there’s no doubt.
‘’I talked to Joey Cora, and this kid is going to come to spring training having the big-league club on his mind, and that’s good. He says he wants to be on the big-league club. He is going to have all of the opportunities to make the ballclub.’’
http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/1405116,CST-SPT-soxnt30.article
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
I love this time of year.
Everyone’s in the best shape of their lives.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on Jan 30, 2009 1:36 PM CST up reply actions
I'm excited about colon's 96mph tailing movement fastball
must make room on the shelf for the coming cy young trophy!
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
Off topic.
Best new restaurants very near downtown?
"I am not going out like SSH. "
by WTGTD, 12/3/08
High end and very high end.
"I am not going out like SSH. "
by WTGTD, 12/3/08
Thanks
"I am not going out like SSH. "
by WTGTD, 12/3/08
Graham Elliot is...
a very good call. Up in Lincoln Park L20 ain’t shabby (http://www.l2orestaurant.com/), but it’s big bucks. I think Esquire (the magazine, not Larry, Esquire) named it the country’s best new restaurant for 2008.
Anthony Bourdain just went there.
Try Everest on the 40th floor of the stock exchange building.
www.stallingtheman.blogspot.com
Someone had a good trading week.
I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT
David Burke Primehouse
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jan 30, 2009 2:01 PM CST up reply actions
Charlie Trotters sing along
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jan 30, 2009 2:10 PM CST up reply actions
Not brand new
But the Vermilion on Hubbard is very good. Indian and Latin fusion cuisine.
Vinny Del Negro interviewed for the job today. I mean come on! Nobody else thinks this is nuts?
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 6, 2008 4:21 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Ozzie Montana on Jan 30, 2009 6:28 PM CST up reply actions
i went to this place called tantra in old san juan
had tandoori mofongo. didn’t expect that.
I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.
by thatshortkid on Jan 31, 2009 12:19 AM CST up reply actions
Player Value Graphs: A Look At Adam Dunn
http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2009/1/30/742156/player-value-graphs-a-look
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
So Matt Wieters is going to be kind of good.
After looking at the performance, talking to the scouts, and seeing what our numbers people were able to uncover over the offseason, Matt Wieters is the best prospect in baseball, the best player on the Orioles right now, and quite possibly the best catcher in the game. And he’s yet to play an inning in the big leagues.
but wait there’s more
So we know he’s great, but work done by our team of researchers and statisticians during the offseason suggests that he might just be historic. One essential measurement here at Baseball Prospectus is Clay Davenport’s Equivalent Average (abbreviated as EqA),s a single figure that measures total offense and adjusts for a number of factors, including the league’s offensive environment, park factors, and team pitching, while providing further balances to allow for accurate comparisons across different eras.
Applying these complex formulas to Wieters’ minor league season gives him a .301 EqA for his High-A stint and a .349 mark at Double-A. EqA is scaled like batting average, so those are good numbers to be sure, but further research reveals that those are the highest marks achieved in both leagues in the last 40 years, which is as far back as our data goes. Matt Wieters wasn’t just great last year, he put together one of the best single seasons in modern minor league history.
If that isn’t an enthusiastic-enough endorsement, then there’s PECOTA, our projection system, and the most accurate one in the business. PECOTA is a system that does what it does based on comparisons—finding similar players with similar physical tools and baseball skill sets. According to PECOTA, with a full slate of at-bats, Wieters should hit .311 with a .395 on-base percentage and a .544 slugging mark this year. That’s good for a .319 EqA. How good is that? Historically great, because it would easily be the highest mark of any catcher in 2009, and only 17 catchers have exceeded that mark in the history of baseball.
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
SoxFest - Ozzie, Moose, and Hawk sightings
And I found an unsecure connection… damn hotel… stuff starts at 4, their normal check in is 3… if you don’t want to wait 25 extra.
Replacing "Chicago Tough" with "Cuban Pride"
What time does the
“beat Konerko and win a sausage” race start? Or the “Cuban Cigaroff” – with Jose, Che’ and DV smoking until two of them pass out? Or the “Kick DJ in the Ass” until it bleeds kids challenge?
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jan 30, 2009 2:06 PM CST up reply actions
I'd pay extra to see a couple of those!
Replacing "Chicago Tough" with "Cuban Pride"
schedule
5:00 Bartolo Colon Chili Cook Off
6:00 Q!’s explains how to walk on water
6:60 Dewayne Wise on how to sneak on to a MLB roster with little to no talent
6:30 Dinner
7:00 Paul Konerko Sulk-off
8:00 Hunting with Mark
8:30 Thome shows boring home movies
9:00-TBA BA picks up fat girls
I was in the shit too!
by thecip on Jan 30, 2009 2:24 PM CST reply actions 6 recs
LOL!
I love the Sulk-off
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jan 30, 2009 2:26 PM CST up reply actions
i like dewayne's seminar on "how to succeed at baseball without really succeeding"
Michael Phelps can swim faster than you can run. He can probably swim faster than you can break the sound barrier. If you and a friend are swimming, and Michael Phelps is coming to eat you, you only have to be faster than your friend.
Just kidding. Michael Phelps will catch up with and eat the shit out of both of you.
rec'd!
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
the gentleman masher's home movies are sure to be entertaining not boring! wait...
takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm
seems the juan uribe diet is popular
http://www.texasleaguers.com/articles/brandon-mccarthy-notes-on-weight-gain.html
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
e-gus was right
The Uribe fat jokes just keep flying in!
McCarthey needed to gain some weight…
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jan 30, 2009 2:57 PM CST up reply actions
Ozzie has small(ball) thoughts, big plans
When manager Ozzie Guillen was asked to submit a wish list for the White Sox’s new spring training facility in Glendale, Ariz., his reply was remarkably brief and a bit surprising, considering Guillen is employed by the team that brought us the exploding scoreboard to honor home runs.
Guillen asked for one thing: a half field devoted solely to bunting.
‘’Nobody else has that,’’ Guillen boasted Thursday on the eve of SoxFest, which runs through Sunday. ’’That’s the only thing I requested. That is going to help all of the organization – everybody from rookie league to the big-league level. You never see that, but I think it’s important to the game.’’
http://www.southtownstar.com/sports/1405071,013009sptdeluca.article
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
Jeff Cox, please step back.
I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT
Or by "bunting", did he mean the festive banners
put up during the playoffs?
I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT
I would have asked for Sabathia
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jan 30, 2009 3:09 PM CST up reply actions
Orlando Hudson is out there and they should give him a one year deal to secure five. Yeah, he wants four years. That is spoken like a person who has no idea how the other 99.8% of us lives. The deals start going down in February once Manny’s ego is given the economic smackdown and the collusion among the owners on behalf of McCourt & LA ends.
The Sox always have a hole in the infield and Chris Getz is not going to fill it. Time to act big and get some speed in the lineup.
The Irish Bulldog Has Spoken...
He's fast with the IRS
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jan 30, 2009 4:26 PM CST up reply actions
Owens says he's ready to assume role as the CF and leadoff guy
he forgets to mention in Charlotte.
—Cowley Twitter
(I added that last part)
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
Owens, Wise, Lillibridge in line for leadoff spot
‘’The question in center field, everybody talk about Jerry Owens and [Brian] Anderson,’’ Guillen said. ‘’Everybody forget about Dewayne Wise. The biggest 15 games we played last year, this kid was my starting center fielder. All of a sudden, nobody talks about him. Wise will have an opportunity to be on the ballclub.’’
http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/1405116,CST-SPT-soxnt30.article
I am getting that empty feeling in my soul again.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jan 30, 2009 5:07 PM CST up reply actions
i think ozzie was talking about my 08 cf poll
since i forgot to put Wise on there as an option.
"Thats terrible." - President Obama at the Commander-In-Chief Ball, to a soldier in Afghanistan from Chicago after Mr. President asked him if he was a Cubs fan or a Sox fan and the grunt said Cub fan. Out of the seven Chicagoland sodiers, 4 said Cubs, 3 said Sox.
DId anyone read Gonzo's blog titled "White Sox Fans Firing Away"
It was posted at 5:20 according to Google News, but now has disappeared…
IT started “General manager Kenny Williams assured fans that once the projected revenue streams are finalized, the budgets are set. …”
AIM: SouthSideCheat
Its up
By Mark Gonzales, 5:20 p.m.
The first fan question involved the economy and his ticket prices being increased.
General manager Kenny Williams assured fans that once the projected revenue streams are finalized, the budgets are set.
“I’ve never once had the conversation with (Jerry Reinsdorf) where he wanted to make money,” Willaims said, adding that Reinsdorf went beyond the budget on several occasions to win a title.
Reinsdorf was sitting in the audience, along with assistant general manager Rick Hahn.
“If you want to ask him tough (financial) questions, he (Hahn) will be up here Sunday,” Williams quipped.
Manager Ozzie Guillen fired back at a questioner who knocked hitting coach Greg Walker.
“Nobody criticized Greg Walker for Carlos Quentin and Alexei Ramirez,” Guillen said. " … Greg Walker will be waiting for you outside."
Walker isn’t in attendance.
Manager Ozzie Guillen, in response to a question about a potential sleeper who could increase t-shirt sales, inferred that third baseman Josh Fields has made tremendous improvement on defense.
by Off the bus running on Jan 30, 2009 6:02 PM CST up reply actions
The most important post
is that we have a bunting expert on our staff.
The Sox plan to install the same pit, which will unofficially be named “Coxie’s Pit,” after third base coach and bunting expert Jeff Cox.
by Off the bus running on Jan 30, 2009 6:08 PM CST up reply actions
what the hell?
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
That is Jeff Cox' ass - I've seen it.
I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT
the bucket of baked beans
now thats a nice touch.
the cone in the keester just needed a little bit more.
"Thats terrible." - President Obama at the Commander-In-Chief Ball, to a soldier in Afghanistan from Chicago after Mr. President asked him if he was a Cubs fan or a Sox fan and the grunt said Cub fan. Out of the seven Chicagoland sodiers, 4 said Cubs, 3 said Sox.
nuts...
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
that is one of the dumbest things i've ever read
Michael Phelps can swim faster than you can run. He can probably swim faster than you can break the sound barrier. If you and a friend are swimming, and Michael Phelps is coming to eat you, you only have to be faster than your friend.
Just kidding. Michael Phelps will catch up with and eat the shit out of both of you.
I wanted to share the dumbness
:p
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
o i meant no ill-will towards your posting it
i was just angry after having read that and the fact that someone would believe it enough to write an article-type dealy about it
Michael Phelps can swim faster than you can run. He can probably swim faster than you can break the sound barrier. If you and a friend are swimming, and Michael Phelps is coming to eat you, you only have to be faster than your friend.
Just kidding. Michael Phelps will catch up with and eat the shit out of both of you.
of course ugod
I never interpreted it as directed towards me
:p
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
for sure u god
takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm
seeing as it could have also meant
Denard Span or Ben Francisco
Michael Phelps can swim faster than you can run. He can probably swim faster than you can break the sound barrier. If you and a friend are swimming, and Michael Phelps is coming to eat you, you only have to be faster than your friend.
Just kidding. Michael Phelps will catch up with and eat the shit out of both of you.
Its kinda sad
Its almost like the Seattle friends are so delusional that they are dependent on fantasy to survive
between bouts of manic depression
Michael Phelps can swim faster than you can run. He can probably swim faster than you can break the sound barrier. If you and a friend are swimming, and Michael Phelps is coming to eat you, you only have to be faster than your friend.
Just kidding. Michael Phelps will catch up with and eat the shit out of both of you.
That was funny!
"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."
by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."
cowley has some quality pics from soxfest
http://twitter.com/cst_sox/statuses/1163154294
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
this is better
http://www.nwherald.com/articles/2009/01/31/51568083/index.xml
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
Q!
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/media/video.jsp?mid=200901293781496
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
danks hits the gym, dotel hits the kitchen
Shape in, or else: Danks added 15 pounds of muscle to his 6-foot-1-inch, 220-pound frame in the off-season.
Manager Ozzie Guillen seems more concerned with the reporting shape of some players, particularly reliever Octavio Dotel.
"Last year he showed up in shape," Guillen said of Dotel. "He left out of shape."
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
Of all the fluff stories
I like to see ACTUAL numbers shown here, like Danks added 15 lbs of muscle rather than “Danks is in great shape”.
by JoeCoolMan24 on Jan 30, 2009 10:43 PM CST up reply actions
usually these "15lbs of muscle" things
is fluff in and of itself. It’s pretty damn hard to gain that much muscle in one offseason. Not saying he couldn’t (or didn’t) do it, but I take it with a grain of salt.
Bonds did it several times....
"Thats terrible." - President Obama at the Commander-In-Chief Ball, to a soldier in Afghanistan from Chicago after Mr. President asked him if he was a Cubs fan or a Sox fan and the grunt said Cub fan. Out of the seven Chicagoland sodiers, 4 said Cubs, 3 said Sox.
i like ACTUAL numbers, too.
however, i think the ACTUAL numbers are probably something more like this:
7 lbs of muscle
1.2 lbs of fat
0.4 lbs of blood
0.8 lbs of cartilage
1 lb of connective tissue
0.3 of bone
0.4 lbs of epithelium tissue
0.2 lbs of nervous tissue
and, before anyone says “you pulled those numbers out of your ass”, go fuck yourself. i just did an autopsy on john.
by larry on Jan 31, 2009 9:59 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
If Danks is 6'1" and 235 lbs, I think he'll be DH this year as opposed to pitcher.
Can he still raise his arms above his head?
www.stallingtheman.blogspot.com
thats nothing
furby is 5’8 and 235lbs.
"Thats terrible." - President Obama at the Commander-In-Chief Ball, to a soldier in Afghanistan from Chicago after Mr. President asked him if he was a Cubs fan or a Sox fan and the grunt said Cub fan. Out of the seven Chicagoland sodiers, 4 said Cubs, 3 said Sox.
5'10 thank you very much....and more like 250
takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm
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"Bang the head that doesn't bang."
Guillen said the only position that worries him is third base, only because he believes the Sox don’t have experience behind Josh Fields.
Guillen said the starting third base job is Fields’ to lose. Guillen said that 19-year-old Dayan Viciedo would get a shot, but Guillen felt strongly about Fields. Interestingly, Guillen didn’t mention newly acquired infielder Wilson Betemit.
Guillen was less concerned about the openings at second base and center field because of the depth.
http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports_hardball/2009/01/soxfest-first-day-wrapup.html
The Betemit thing is surprising
I really thought he’d be the starting 3B. And I’d really hope he isn’t the designated backup SS/2B…he’d be a better backup 3B. Maybe Oxxie just forgot he was on the team.
by hitlesswonder on Jan 31, 2009 2:45 PM CST up reply actions
KW said he was the backup at third.
not sure why people ever thought a player like betemit was going to start over fields but whatever.
then how would they rationalize the giving up on josh fields?
if KW didn’t try to sell it that way, i’m not sure why anyone else would.
Uribe was starting over Fields at the end of last season
I just took it as a sign of things to come.
by hitlesswonder on Jan 31, 2009 3:58 PM CST up reply actions
alms? alms? alms for the poor?
Pitchers and catchers begin reporting to spring training in two weeks, yet nearly 90 free agents are still looking for jobs….
Fehr did not dismiss the possibility of the union setting up a training camp for unemployed players in Florida or Arizona. "We’re considering all options," Fehr said, "and that certainly is one." The union arranged such a camp in Homestead, Fla., for the large number of free agents who were looking for work after the players’ strike ended in 1995
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/9152594/Fehr:-27Heightened27-concern-about-free-agent-market
They did this the year Rock Rainers retired, IIRC.
I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT
Yahoo! Preview....
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;ylt=An1TPsA9wtbgtXuStr60lURvLYF?slug=ti-hsdwhitesox013009&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
Still stinging after my season tickets jumped 11 % and Sox dropped payroll (if it sticks around 100 mil) about 17-18%…….oh well.
because the only source of revenue for the white sox is tickets.
this logic always amuses me. i think the white sox should trade aaron poreda for barry zito straight up. that’ll get the payroll back up.
Can you explain further?
Hat sales went up……do you know exactly what other sources of revenue the Sox have seen diminish since September of 2008? I guess Glendale………
watch a white sox game. what is the most prevalent industry advertising that you see both in the stadium and on the tv?
i’m sure we’re going to see a whole lot of the chevy pride team. but everyone is cutting back.
my point is that it’s pretty darn silly to think that there is or should be a direct relation between payroll in a single year and season ticket prices in a given year. they know what the curve looks like for season tickets. people aren’t going to base their season ticket purchases solely on one season because, duh, if they drop out one year they’re to the back of the line if they want to purchase again. and a team should not base their ticket increase solely on expected payroll.
the simplistic thought behind this whining is amusing. and, even if you can’t figure out how price are set, if you don’t like the price, don’t buy. simple. this isn’t like gas or food or something. going to a game is total luxury.
KW getting into it with a fan who rips Crede and why they didn’t go after Garland. KW gets nasty and has an exchange. Now, its finally fun. 3 minutes ago
Can someone ask why the hurry to trade Swisher?
"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."
by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."
awwww.
someone didn’t buy a ticket but wants their question asked.
i’m assuming you mean “why trade him in november” as opposed to “why trade him ten months after acquiring him”. one might assert that the corner outfield/1B market is actually worse now than it was two months ago. of course, i’m guessing your real question is “why do you think it was a good idea to trade swisher and throw-in texeira for 1) a guy who might be a backend starter, 2) a guy who might be a decent reliever, and 3) a guy who is a utility player.”
lol
You can’t ask that. Be politically correct.
"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."
by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."
you can ask. people have asked KW just that and i think he's given the answer he believes.
swisher had to go because he was bad in the clubhouse. KW thinks marquez will reach his ceiling of a #3/4 starter – said as much when he asserted that garland and marquez were basically the same pitcher. there’s obviously a difference of opinion on that but KW hasn’t really hidden his thoughts.
Exactly right.
Obviously KW is relying on his scouting with Marquez, and as fans we can choose to believe/trust him, or we can choose to think he really missed it with Marquez. Who knows? Time knows, but it ain’t talking yet. I’m sure there were plenty of folks around here at this point last year who thought that Danks and Floyd were going to be busts in 2008 and they could never fill the hole left by trading Garland. Of course, maybe Marquez is the next Massett. I just love how everybody is always so certain. Until they aren’t.
that's true.
but marquez does not now nor did he ever have the pedigree that danks or floyd had. this would be a much, much bigger rabbit to pull.
my issue has very little to do with Marquez
than trading Swisher. If he says cash, fine. I wasn’t there with him and Cashman, I just doubt it would have taken much to get him.
"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."
by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."
ozzie tells JRE to go fuck himself.
Ozzie praises A. Ramirez at SS. Fan says, “I hope you’re right.” Ozzie says, “No, I am right.” 2 minutes ago
At what point does Cabrera have to hold out until the Sox would not get a
compensatory draft pick?
Ozzie Jr on the score
whats with all this we stuff?
does he have a mouse in his pocket?
"Thats terrible." - President Obama at the Commander-In-Chief Ball, to a soldier in Afghanistan from Chicago after Mr. President asked him if he was a Cubs fan or a Sox fan and the grunt said Cub fan. Out of the seven Chicagoland sodiers, 4 said Cubs, 3 said Sox.
this guy calling in is an idiot
“why cant we make a big FA signing like Manny Ramirez or Jake Peavy?”
jackass
"Thats terrible." - President Obama at the Commander-In-Chief Ball, to a soldier in Afghanistan from Chicago after Mr. President asked him if he was a Cubs fan or a Sox fan and the grunt said Cub fan. Out of the seven Chicagoland sodiers, 4 said Cubs, 3 said Sox.
If the Sox get Pujols, that would allow them to trade Konerko to the Angels...
by hitlesswonder on Jan 31, 2009 3:59 PM CST up reply actions
melido perez said the sox aren’t signing any more free agents so i guess we have to give up the pujols dream.
Earlier today
someone called thinking that Ozzie Jr. was Ozzie Sr. It was painful — like watching Borat. I had to change stations.
Another good part was Ozzie Jr telling Jerry Owens
he could be the savior for the White Sox in ’09
FifthFeather.com
by El Duque's Raft on Jan 31, 2009 5:34 PM CST up reply actions
your table is ready, brent
Guillen said the favorite for the backup infield position would be dictated by who is the best defensive shortstop.
Griffey still a hit
By Mark Gonzales, 5:35 p.m.
Judging from the prices, Ken Griffey Jr.’s popularity remains high despite playing only two months with the White Sox.
The White Sox sell game-worn jerseys as part of an effort to raise money for White Sox Charities. As of Saturday morning, the price tag for one of Griffey’s jerseys was $2,500.
Christine O’Reilly, the Sox’s senior director of community relations, said that two Griffey jerseys had been sold for the same amount Friday.
A return visit to the jersey rack indicated the third Griffey jersey had been sold.
The prices of the game-worn jerseys ranged from $100 for Orlando Cabrera, Don Cooper and Juan Uribe (in sizes 46 and a recently-sold 50) to $300 (Joe Crede) to $500 (Jermaine Dye) to $750 (Paul Konerko).
http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports_hardball/soxfest-2009/
Yasser update
Guillen wouldn’t comment directly on whether the Sox were involved heavily in negotiating for speedy Cuban outfielder Yasser Gomez, who has defected. “We’re looking at everyone who’s out there,” Williams told the audience. … Gomez, 28, has the same agent as Alexei Ramirez. Gomez batted .331 with Industriales, but was left off the Cuban roster in the 2006 WBC and in the 2008 Olympic Games.
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
scot gregor
Contreras and Ramirez are very comfortable playing for Ozzie, who speaks Spanish. That’s a big reason Ramirez turned down more money from the Oakland A’s last year to sign with the Sox, according to a source.
Gomez is a very interesting player, and Marti appears good enough to help anybody’s bullpen.
But Williams almost apologized for hogging all of the Cuban talent that’s been arriving when he answered the question.
"I don’t think he (Gomez) is a get," Williams said. "It might be counterproductive for (Torres) to deal with just one team."
In other words, if Torres’ stable of talent continues landing on the South Side, the White Sox might be able to get away with contracts well below market value.
http://blogs.dailyherald.com/node/1340
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
was he left off for fear of defection?
or wasnt good enough?
"Thats terrible." - President Obama at the Commander-In-Chief Ball, to a soldier in Afghanistan from Chicago after Mr. President asked him if he was a Cubs fan or a Sox fan and the grunt said Cub fan. Out of the seven Chicagoland sodiers, 4 said Cubs, 3 said Sox.
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