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Ellis, a 6th grader from Glen Ellyn, was such a hit at Saturday's question-and-answer session at SoxFest that general manager Ken Williams did more than just invite Ethan to sit with him and Ozzie Guillen during the entertaining session, which was extended about 15 minutes.

Williams was impressed so much by the quick-hitting questions from Ellis that he invited him and his father, Jim, to tour the Sox's front offices during the regular season.

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Yasser update (from the previous thread)
Guillen wouldn’t comment directly on whether the Sox were involved heavily in negotiating for speedy Cuban outfielder Yasser Gomez, who has defected. "We’re looking at everyone who’s out there," Williams told the audience. … Gomez, 28, has the same agent as Alexei Ramirez. Gomez batted .331 with Industriales, but was left off the Cuban roster in the 2006 WBC and in the 2008 Olympic Games.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/chi-01-white-sox-bits-chicagofeb01,0,2106589.story

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jan 31, 2009 9:10 PM CST reply actions  

and from scot gregor
Contreras and Ramirez are very comfortable playing for Ozzie, who speaks Spanish. That’s a big reason Ramirez turned down more money from the Oakland A’s last year to sign with the Sox, according to a source.

Gomez is a very interesting player, and Marti appears good enough to help anybody’s bullpen.

But Williams almost apologized for hogging all of the Cuban talent that’s been arriving when he answered the question.

“I don’t think he (Gomez) is a get,” Williams said. “It might be counterproductive for (Torres) to deal with just one team.”

In other words, if Torres’ stable of talent continues landing on the South Side, the White Sox might be able to get away with contracts well below market value.

http://blogs.dailyherald.com/node/1340

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jan 31, 2009 9:11 PM CST up reply actions  

I just got Double-Play Plan Season Tickets!!!!!!!

this is awesome

Michael Phelps can swim faster than you can run. He can probably swim faster than you can break the sound barrier. If you and a friend are swimming, and Michael Phelps is coming to eat you, you only have to be faster than your friend.

Just kidding. Michael Phelps will catch up with and eat the shit out of both of you.

by U-God on Feb 1, 2009 9:48 AM CST reply actions  

What is that?

Like how many games? Sounds great though man.

by Crede's Crew on Feb 1, 2009 12:14 PM CST up reply actions  

It's all the Saturday and Sunday games for the season

plus the Wednesday game for the Opening Series. http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/cws/ticketing/ticket_plans.jsp?loc=splitplan I’m in section 158 by the bullpen. I’m really pumped.

Michael Phelps can swim faster than you can run. He can probably swim faster than you can break the sound barrier. If you and a friend are swimming, and Michael Phelps is coming to eat you, you only have to be faster than your friend.

Just kidding. Michael Phelps will catch up with and eat the shit out of both of you.

by U-God on Feb 1, 2009 12:36 PM CST up reply actions  

I got the Ozzie plan

I took a lot of weekday games, but Im in section 161 for the Yankees(aug 1) and Red Sox(sep 5) games, we’ll have to share a cold one U-God.

"Thats terrible." - President Obama at the Commander-In-Chief Ball, to a soldier in Afghanistan from Chicago after Mr. President asked him if he was a Cubs fan or a Sox fan and the grunt said Cub fan. Out of the seven Chicagoland sodiers, 4 said Cubs, 3 said Sox.

by e-gus on Feb 1, 2009 1:01 PM CST up reply actions  

i'll be back at school by boston

but will definitely be there for the yankees one. consider it done gus

Michael Phelps can swim faster than you can run. He can probably swim faster than you can break the sound barrier. If you and a friend are swimming, and Michael Phelps is coming to eat you, you only have to be faster than your friend.

Just kidding. Michael Phelps will catch up with and eat the shit out of both of you.

by U-God on Feb 1, 2009 1:15 PM CST up reply actions  

cool.

"Thats terrible." - President Obama at the Commander-In-Chief Ball, to a soldier in Afghanistan from Chicago after Mr. President asked him if he was a Cubs fan or a Sox fan and the grunt said Cub fan. Out of the seven Chicagoland sodiers, 4 said Cubs, 3 said Sox.

by e-gus on Feb 1, 2009 1:22 PM CST up reply actions  

ewww

who shares their beer?

So, if I am reading the two options correctly . . .
we can either a) keep dye or b) trade dye . . . is that you Phil Rogers?

by jc2313 on Dec 11, 2008 4:53 PM CST up reply recommended Unrec 1

by Where Triples Go to Die on Feb 2, 2009 7:33 AM CST up reply actions  

This is the plan I have had for the past couple of years.

I like the plan a lot. I got seats between 1B and RF…we need to grab a beer (maybe a polish too – depending on the Obama Stimulus Plan we all get).

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Feb 1, 2009 2:42 PM CST up reply actions  

do you get the same seats with that plan for every game?

the one thing about the ozzie plan is that you can tour the cell throughout the year, but i think i rather have a set section.

"Thats terrible." - President Obama at the Commander-In-Chief Ball, to a soldier in Afghanistan from Chicago after Mr. President asked him if he was a Cubs fan or a Sox fan and the grunt said Cub fan. Out of the seven Chicagoland sodiers, 4 said Cubs, 3 said Sox.

by e-gus on Feb 1, 2009 2:44 PM CST up reply actions  

yeah

your in the same spot each game

Michael Phelps can swim faster than you can run. He can probably swim faster than you can break the sound barrier. If you and a friend are swimming, and Michael Phelps is coming to eat you, you only have to be faster than your friend.

Just kidding. Michael Phelps will catch up with and eat the shit out of both of you.

by U-God on Feb 1, 2009 2:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, same seats for all the games

They move you for the playoffs though.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Feb 1, 2009 2:51 PM CST up reply actions  

i didn't even think about playoffs

Michael Phelps can swim faster than you can run. He can probably swim faster than you can break the sound barrier. If you and a friend are swimming, and Michael Phelps is coming to eat you, you only have to be faster than your friend.

Just kidding. Michael Phelps will catch up with and eat the shit out of both of you.

by U-God on Feb 1, 2009 2:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Its a given, how could you overlook it?

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Feb 1, 2009 2:59 PM CST up reply actions  

i was just too excited about the season tickets

and the fact that i get to go to a cubs/sox game at the cell instead of wrigley this year

Michael Phelps can swim faster than you can run. He can probably swim faster than you can break the sound barrier. If you and a friend are swimming, and Michael Phelps is coming to eat you, you only have to be faster than your friend.

Just kidding. Michael Phelps will catch up with and eat the shit out of both of you.

by U-God on Feb 1, 2009 3:00 PM CST up reply actions  

They'll probably send you upstairs

They did increase the playoff games again – last couple years they cut it to one game a series. What row you in – I use to have r18 seats 1-4 over there

Replacing "Chicago Tough" with "Cuban Pride"

by Brush Back on Feb 1, 2009 6:46 PM CST up reply actions  

row 19

seats 5-6

Michael Phelps can swim faster than you can run. He can probably swim faster than you can break the sound barrier. If you and a friend are swimming, and Michael Phelps is coming to eat you, you only have to be faster than your friend.

Just kidding. Michael Phelps will catch up with and eat the shit out of both of you.

by U-God on Feb 1, 2009 8:14 PM CST up reply actions  

indeed bobby

name a series and we’ll figure it out the closer we get to the season

Michael Phelps can swim faster than you can run. He can probably swim faster than you can break the sound barrier. If you and a friend are swimming, and Michael Phelps is coming to eat you, you only have to be faster than your friend.

Just kidding. Michael Phelps will catch up with and eat the shit out of both of you.

by U-God on Feb 1, 2009 2:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, we'll figure it out.

BTW Phelps got busted smoking weed…nahta goot.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Feb 1, 2009 2:53 PM CST up reply actions  

such a bright young guy

Michael Phelps can swim faster than you can run. He can probably swim faster than you can break the sound barrier. If you and a friend are swimming, and Michael Phelps is coming to eat you, you only have to be faster than your friend.

Just kidding. Michael Phelps will catch up with and eat the shit out of both of you.

by U-God on Feb 1, 2009 2:55 PM CST up reply actions  

i bet it was Hydro

"Thats terrible." - President Obama at the Commander-In-Chief Ball, to a soldier in Afghanistan from Chicago after Mr. President asked him if he was a Cubs fan or a Sox fan and the grunt said Cub fan. Out of the seven Chicagoland sodiers, 4 said Cubs, 3 said Sox.

by e-gus on Feb 1, 2009 2:56 PM CST up reply actions  

though it does explain the end of my quote

Michael Phelps can swim faster than you can run. He can probably swim faster than you can break the sound barrier. If you and a friend are swimming, and Michael Phelps is coming to eat you, you only have to be faster than your friend.

Just kidding. Michael Phelps will catch up with and eat the shit out of both of you.

by U-God on Feb 1, 2009 2:56 PM CST up reply actions  

where is everybody?

you’d think this was the marlins board

Michael Phelps can swim faster than you can run. He can probably swim faster than you can break the sound barrier. If you and a friend are swimming, and Michael Phelps is coming to eat you, you only have to be faster than your friend.

Just kidding. Michael Phelps will catch up with and eat the shit out of both of you.

by U-God on Feb 1, 2009 11:00 AM CST reply actions  

yeah

i should prolly get around to finishin that

Michael Phelps can swim faster than you can run. He can probably swim faster than you can break the sound barrier. If you and a friend are swimming, and Michael Phelps is coming to eat you, you only have to be faster than your friend.

Just kidding. Michael Phelps will catch up with and eat the shit out of both of you.

by U-God on Feb 1, 2009 12:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Or maybe like drinking

I don’t know, I think there is a minor game today.

"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."

by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."

by Tdogg on Feb 1, 2009 12:35 PM CST up reply actions  

i guess.

but is re-watching the 2005 world series really that important? i mean, get a life, tdogg.

by larry on Feb 1, 2009 12:40 PM CST up reply actions  

For a guy that wondered why such a fuss was made over Soxfest

you sure seem to be enjoying it.

Speaking of enjoyment, I was enjoying about 18 hours of WS 2005 yesterday through this AM.

Can’t believe it was 3+ years ago already. And seeing the hit batsmen/walks/errors I can’t believe we escaped with the crown. I was almost as nervous watching the replay as when I watched it live.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Feb 2, 2009 8:14 AM CST up reply actions  

many reasons it is quite here:

-weekend late night thus late wake ups
-superbowl, i swear it is today
-too many drinks last night

by LT_sox_fan on Feb 1, 2009 2:08 PM CST up reply actions  

driving all the honey's home that you scored with last night

takes a while when a couple of them live in the suburbs.

(okay, that was what BA said)

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Feb 1, 2009 2:43 PM CST up reply actions  

You're supposed to take them home?

I’ve always gone the $2 and point them in the direction of the bus route

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Feb 1, 2009 3:26 PM CST up reply actions  

One of the deadliest looks I've ever received...

Occurred when after a fun night w/ a new young lady, she wakes me up and asks for money for a cab. Upon opening my wallet to find $1, I tell her “I have a metrocard”. Yeah, never saw her again (not that I would have anyway)

by Crede's Crew on Feb 1, 2009 4:40 PM CST up reply actions  

the beauty of living on campus

they don’t mind walking home

Michael Phelps can swim faster than you can run. He can probably swim faster than you can break the sound barrier. If you and a friend are swimming, and Michael Phelps is coming to eat you, you only have to be faster than your friend.

Just kidding. Michael Phelps will catch up with and eat the shit out of both of you.

by U-God on Feb 1, 2009 4:52 PM CST up reply actions  

I whip out my U-Pass and all the bitches come flocking

Vinny Del Negro interviewed for the job today. I mean come on! Nobody else thinks this is nuts?
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 6, 2008 4:21 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs

by Ozzie Montana on Feb 1, 2009 5:25 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

so what was the kid asking KW then?

"Thats terrible." - President Obama at the Commander-In-Chief Ball, to a soldier in Afghanistan from Chicago after Mr. President asked him if he was a Cubs fan or a Sox fan and the grunt said Cub fan. Out of the seven Chicagoland sodiers, 4 said Cubs, 3 said Sox.

by e-gus on Feb 1, 2009 12:10 PM CST reply actions  

oh yeah

"Thats terrible." - President Obama at the Commander-In-Chief Ball, to a soldier in Afghanistan from Chicago after Mr. President asked him if he was a Cubs fan or a Sox fan and the grunt said Cub fan. Out of the seven Chicagoland sodiers, 4 said Cubs, 3 said Sox.

by e-gus on Feb 1, 2009 1:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes, and it is good to see he is twittering again

my shakes have gone away.

Has he said anything about the Palmer House’s Q-Tips yet? I am jonezing for that twitter….

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Feb 1, 2009 2:44 PM CST up reply actions  

wtf?

thats not OUR lead singer of Journey Steve Perry.
the asian guy sounds pretty good though

"Thats terrible." - President Obama at the Commander-In-Chief Ball, to a soldier in Afghanistan from Chicago after Mr. President asked him if he was a Cubs fan or a Sox fan and the grunt said Cub fan. Out of the seven Chicagoland sodiers, 4 said Cubs, 3 said Sox.

by e-gus on Feb 1, 2009 3:23 PM CST reply actions  

Guillen hinted that 2008 No. 1 pick Gordon Beckham might be destined for a position change.

“Alexei Ramirez is going to be my shortstop for a while,” Guillen said.

http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports_hardball/2009/02/sundays-session-has-guillen-on-his-toes.html

by larry on Feb 1, 2009 3:36 PM CST reply actions  

is it worth being encouraged by Ozzie's big thumbs up to Alexei's defense?

Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.

by colintj on Feb 1, 2009 4:08 PM CST up reply actions  

i don't know if he's got a scout's eye

but he’s got a pretty good idea of how to play the position.

Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.

by colintj on Feb 1, 2009 4:45 PM CST up reply actions  

well, he deemed Alexei's 2B defense "pretty rough" in ST last year

Here’s best case scenario, IMO; Getz fares decently at 2nd, Fields is adequate at least offensively, Ramirez handles SS decently. If Beckham is ready in 2010, while Fields, Viciedo, Dye and Konerko make up DH, 1B and RF and Beckham plays 3B.

Of course, a lot of this is a leap of faith.

by Daniel Berlyn on Feb 1, 2009 4:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Not if he produces around what he did last year

I can’t see them dropping Dye’s option and letting Thome walk at the same time, unless they both collapse or they’re absolutely sure they can get the production out of Allen/Viciedo/Flowers. 2010 is the year these guys would presumably be eased in while Dye and Konerko get their last hurrahs on the team.

by Daniel Berlyn on Feb 1, 2009 5:05 PM CST up reply actions  

mutual option ~ he gone

Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.

by colintj on Feb 1, 2009 7:02 PM CST up reply actions  

dye is on track to be a type A, yes?

do you think kenny will offer him arb?

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Feb 1, 2009 5:14 PM CST up reply actions  

damn, I thought I read something like that

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Feb 1, 2009 5:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Without injury, he will be

I mean Dye was just a few points away from type A this year factoring in ’07 which was his worst year by far in the last five

by 3E8 on Feb 1, 2009 5:31 PM CST up reply actions  

i always bet on players with declining plate discpline.

2009 is going to be a lot more like 2007 than 2008 for jermaine. whether that means he’ll be type a or b is not something that is particularly easy to figure out at this point considering we’re missing one half of his data and have no idea what the player pool he’ll be ranked against looks like either.

by larry on Feb 1, 2009 5:36 PM CST up reply actions  

while we're on the subject, how would you feel about not offering Thome arb if he has a season similar to last?

He would be about a season away from 600 HRs, which would help attendance, and it would be a slight on what he’s done for the team. However, it’s very likely he would accept.

by Daniel Berlyn on Feb 1, 2009 5:44 PM CST up reply actions  

under no circumstances should the white sox offer thome arbitration.

guys not named barry bonds who are his age and make his salary are simply not going to be worth anywhere near what they’d get in arbitration. you could have one of those “handshake and wink, wink” deals whereby thome agrees to decline but, frankly, with teams these days actually looking at compensation instead of signing veterans willy-nilly, it would probably do thome a disservice. if the white sox don’t want him – and it’s hard to see how they could fit him in the projected team – i think they’ll do the right thing and just let him go someplace else to get his number.

by larry on Feb 1, 2009 7:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Plate discipline will have zero effect on 20% of the 2009 input for his Elias score (PA)

and every projection system has Dye out-producing ’07 for the other 80% (HR, RBI, AVG, OBP)

by 3E8 on Feb 1, 2009 6:10 PM CST up reply actions  

that's nice. what did those projection systems say for dye's 07 season?

one uses indicators such as a decline in plate discipline to indicate overall decline.

by larry on Feb 1, 2009 7:03 PM CST up reply actions  

The percent of pitches outside the zone which Dye is swinging at has increased by a few percentage points the past few seasons

Is this indication enough to make any substantial predictions about whether Dye’s offensive production will decline next year? He may be swinging at more pitches, but he’s also making more contact overall. There doesn’t seem to be enough evidence to say he will pumpkin

by 3E8 on Feb 1, 2009 7:49 PM CST up reply actions  

my point is going over your head and i'm not particularly interested in explaining player projecting to you.

this argument is silly. he isn’t on track to be a type a. that was the question. it’s silly to make predictions about type a status in the circumstances dye is in. you think he’ll have a great year and that he’ll surpass the other players in the pool. great. we got it.

by larry on Feb 1, 2009 8:22 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't necessarily think Dye will have a great year

But I like just about everybody else think ‘09 will be better than ’07, meaning his Elias score next year will increase. The scores of players in the pool changes from year to year, but the cuttoff for type A doesn’t vary much in Dye’s group. Since the cuttoff score for type A doesn’t change significantly from year to year and Dye barely missed the cut this year, without spending time on the DL I don’t think it’s unreasonable to expect him to be type A

by 3E8 on Feb 1, 2009 8:34 PM CST up reply actions  

it's not unreasonable. it's a perfectly valid position.

but when you have to go through some level of gymnastics to get to that position, it means he’s not on track.

by larry on Feb 1, 2009 9:52 PM CST up reply actions  

I admit you have lost me a bit here Larry

From what I read and looking at a few rough projections, its not far fetched at all Dye ends up as an A next year.

"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."

by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."

by Tdogg on Feb 1, 2009 10:00 PM CST up reply actions  

okay. maybe i misinterpreted wiz's question.

when i think “on track”, i think orlando cabrera last year: comfortably well above the cut off and no reason to expect a huge drop off in performance which would result in him missing. dye is currently ranked as a b. i don’t see that as on track. whatever. this has become beyond stupid to continue discussing considering everyone is pissing into the win.

by larry on Feb 1, 2009 10:12 PM CST up reply actions  

well, he just missed the cut and his disastrous 2007 is 50% of the calculation

would it be safe to assume he’s an A after this year when 2007 comes off the books, barring a 2007 like performance?

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Feb 1, 2009 10:16 PM CST up reply actions  

haha!

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Feb 1, 2009 10:20 PM CST up reply actions  

only if you predict an 07 or worse

which I see as more a possibility than a probability

by Daniel Berlyn on Feb 1, 2009 5:19 PM CST up reply actions  

he's not currently ranked a type A.

not sure why i’d give any more thought to such a topic at this point than that.

by larry on Feb 1, 2009 5:24 PM CST up reply actions  

do you have a link to the final rankings?

I found this but I’m not sure if it is correct

http://www.sportscity.com/MLB/Elias-MLB-Rankings-DH-1B-OF

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Feb 1, 2009 9:34 PM CST up reply actions  

that link was slow and i have little patience.

i’m sure that guy who did the tigers thoughts blog with his projected elias rankings has a link to the final version.

by larry on Feb 1, 2009 9:54 PM CST up reply actions  

i got ya
15 Jermaine Dye 80.253
A
15t

Michael Phelps can swim faster than you can run. He can probably swim faster than you can break the sound barrier. If you and a friend are swimming, and Michael Phelps is coming to eat you, you only have to be faster than your friend.

Just kidding. Michael Phelps will catch up with and eat the shit out of both of you.

by U-God on Feb 1, 2009 9:58 PM CST up reply actions  

thanks

seems the type A cut is 73 and

27. Jermaine Dye 70.263

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Feb 1, 2009 10:12 PM CST up reply actions  

i was wondering why frank thomas and big papi were ranked so high

Michael Phelps can swim faster than you can run. He can probably swim faster than you can break the sound barrier. If you and a friend are swimming, and Michael Phelps is coming to eat you, you only have to be faster than your friend.

Just kidding. Michael Phelps will catch up with and eat the shit out of both of you.

by U-God on Feb 1, 2009 10:18 PM CST up reply actions  

I found what I'd seen,,,,
Dye remains one of the Sox’s most productive hitters and has led all American League outfielders since 2005 with 137 home runs, including 34 last season.

But he is getting older and entering what could be his final year with the Sox, who definitely would seek compensation at least similar to what a Type A free agent would net (two high draft picks) in any deal.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/chi-28-white-sox-jermaine-dye-chjan28,0,4942993.story

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Feb 1, 2009 5:25 PM CST up reply actions  

He also mentioned Wise in CF more than once too

Kept raving about how de kid was down the stretch, don’t count him out

Replacing "Chicago Tough" with "Cuban Pride"

by Brush Back on Feb 1, 2009 6:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Throwing out some kindling for the fire that is JO.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Feb 2, 2009 8:11 AM CST up reply actions  

Wilson Betemit’s name finally was mentioned. Guillen wants Betemit, acquired from the New York Yankees, to be able to play all four infield positions. It’s important for the Sox to possess a capable first baseman behind Paul Konerko since Jim Thome is relegated to designated hitter duty.

http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports_hardball/2009/02/soxfest-wrapup.html

by larry on Feb 1, 2009 5:00 PM CST reply actions  

I think it would be best to leave camp with five role players

unless they can dump one of the CF crew. Other than that, someone’s going to have to be DFA’d, be it a pitcher or pos. player.

by Daniel Berlyn on Feb 1, 2009 5:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Q!
"I would never be surprised by anything I do on the field," Quentin said. "I say that in the sense of, if I was to be surprised, I would basically have no confidence in what I feel like I can do. I would never state what I think I’m capable of, but I feel like I know."

The cameras and microphones that follow success have never appealed to Quentin. He said he has adjusted to the big league environment of interviews, pictures and autographs, but nothing matched the batter’s box or his spot in left field.

"I love getting out on the field," Quentin said. "I love hitting little white baseballs. I’m looking forward to spring training coming up. I’m looking forward to the first day we can hit live off the pitchers, because that’s something I cherish."

http://www.nwherald.com/articles/2009/01/31/r_8wgzra7jsx2g_g9lozf29w/index.xml

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Feb 1, 2009 6:17 PM CST reply actions  

Interesting thing about Q at SoxFest

Won’t autograph the ball on the sweet spot – at least prior to getting one from him people were being told not to ask because he is not allowed to.

Replacing "Chicago Tough" with "Cuban Pride"

by Brush Back on Feb 1, 2009 6:57 PM CST up reply actions  

tradition has it that you sign a baseball

in the narrow channel opposite the american league label. shows how fucked up pro sports is that he can’t/won’t just sign the fucking ball where the fan wants it.

by Hatchetm on Feb 2, 2009 7:34 AM CST up reply actions  

Just like in "Jerry Maguire".

And it’s getting worse…

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Feb 2, 2009 8:11 AM CST up reply actions  

Q! can do whatever the f*ck he wants

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Feb 2, 2009 10:12 AM CST up reply actions  

It is America.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Feb 2, 2009 10:40 AM CST up reply actions  

agreed

So, if I am reading the two options correctly . . .
we can either a) keep dye or b) trade dye . . . is that you Phil Rogers?

by jc2313 on Dec 11, 2008 4:53 PM CST up reply recommended Unrec 1

by Where Triples Go to Die on Feb 2, 2009 12:54 PM CST up reply actions  

a couple Q! pics


Carlos Quentin signs an autograph for a young fan on Saturday.


White Sox slugger Carlos Quentin greets a young Sox fan during one of the many autograph sessions held throughout the weekend.

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Feb 2, 2009 9:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Dang it Q!

Do you HAVE to wear your wedding ring?

That just ruins the whole fantasy…geez.

"No one is sure what Colon has left in his 5-foot-11-inch, 250-plus-pound body." - Chicago Tribune 1/15/09

by tailgater on Feb 2, 2009 9:29 PM CST up reply actions  

The Market For Adam Dunn

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2009/02/the-market-for.html

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Feb 1, 2009 6:48 PM CST reply actions  

Braves should go for him

he would fit nicely between McCann and Jones. That would be brutal, especially against righties.

by Daniel Berlyn on Feb 1, 2009 7:31 PM CST up reply actions  

The Slapper

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=slap+chop

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Feb 1, 2009 8:08 PM CST reply actions  

That's it!

I saw the add a while ago and couldn’t remember anything about it except the toss into the sink

Replacing "Chicago Tough" with "Cuban Pride"

by Brush Back on Feb 1, 2009 8:22 PM CST up reply actions  

I wish the Bears could draft a guy like Fitzgerald

Michael Phelps can swim faster than you can run. He can probably swim faster than you can break the sound barrier. If you and a friend are swimming, and Michael Phelps is coming to eat you, you only have to be faster than your friend.

Just kidding. Michael Phelps will catch up with and eat the shit out of both of you.

by U-God on Feb 1, 2009 8:51 PM CST reply actions  

I wish my wife and Halle Berry

would give me a threesome.

"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."

by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."

by Tdogg on Feb 1, 2009 10:04 PM CST up reply actions  

way to put things in perspective...

So, if I am reading the two options correctly . . .
we can either a) keep dye or b) trade dye . . . is that you Phil Rogers?

by jc2313 on Dec 11, 2008 4:53 PM CST up reply recommended Unrec 1

by Where Triples Go to Die on Feb 2, 2009 12:54 PM CST up reply actions  

You know what would be nice?

Having OBP guys near the top of the order

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/chi-02-white-sox-bitsfeb02,0,5416853.story

Michael Phelps can swim faster than you can run. He can probably swim faster than you can break the sound barrier. If you and a friend are swimming, and Michael Phelps is coming to eat you, you only have to be faster than your friend.

Just kidding. Michael Phelps will catch up with and eat the shit out of both of you.

by U-God on Feb 1, 2009 8:58 PM CST reply actions  

what???? that makes

no sense. We already know that Wise has the necessary skill to play the leadoff position while someone like Getz, likely does not.

by jc2313 on Feb 2, 2009 10:04 AM CST up reply actions  

We know this baout Getz - how?

Replacing "Chicago Tough" with "Cuban Pride"

by Brush Back on Feb 2, 2009 11:41 AM CST up reply actions  

Are you serious or is that a typo?

Wise has the leadoff skills but Chris Getz does not? Seriously? What in the world makes you believe Wise is a better leadoff hitter (or player in general for that matter) than Chris Getz at this point?

by Grinder in Training on Feb 2, 2009 11:44 AM CST up reply actions  

sort of thought the

‘leadoff position’ was a give away there, no? Just referring to the De Luca article a few days back . . .

by jc2313 on Feb 2, 2009 11:52 AM CST up reply actions  

You had them going jc2313...

Nice trap! They are quick to prove how smart they are until you pull one over on them. SSS members are like vultures, and you are the cacti disguised as a rotting corpse.

So, if I am reading the two options correctly . . .
we can either a) keep dye or b) trade dye . . . is that you Phil Rogers?

by jc2313 on Dec 11, 2008 4:53 PM CST up reply recommended Unrec 1

by Where Triples Go to Die on Feb 2, 2009 12:59 PM CST up reply actions  

?

this doesn’t seem quite right:

1. J.O.
2. A.J.
3. Q!
4. Thome
5. J.D.
6. Konerko
7. Che
8. Getz
9. The Shocker

by Andronicus on Feb 1, 2009 9:25 PM CST reply actions  

getz and the shocker prolly get switched

but yeah, that is ugly

Michael Phelps can swim faster than you can run. He can probably swim faster than you can break the sound barrier. If you and a friend are swimming, and Michael Phelps is coming to eat you, you only have to be faster than your friend.

Just kidding. Michael Phelps will catch up with and eat the shit out of both of you.

by U-God on Feb 1, 2009 9:36 PM CST up reply actions  

It's pretty easy to look at that and see a big bucket of suck

On the plus side, while I’d rather see Getz batting second he could easily be just as bad as AJ at OBP and it;s not going to be the move that costs the Sox a division. So I guess it doesn’t really matter.

by hitlesswonder on Feb 1, 2009 10:20 PM CST up reply actions  

So, Ozzie says this about Poreda:
“Pretty soon he’ll be in the big leagues, and you will enjoy the way this kid pitches,” Guillen said. “He’s got great stuff. Whoever scouted this guy should be proud.”

Wasn’t the rumor that the Sox canned whomever scouted Poreda? I know I was firmly in the camp that it was a wasted pick after reading the THT assessment.

by hitlesswonder on Feb 1, 2009 10:18 PM CST reply actions  

the insanity will not stop with poreda, will it.

no. no one got fired for picking poreda. KW thought that was a good pick. the guys who picked shit like mcculloch and broadway got fired.

by larry on Feb 1, 2009 10:20 PM CST up reply actions  

the soxed passed on porcelo and grabbed poreda right?

a move that looked horrible at the time, but that is seemingly working out OK so far. Poreda has dominated the lower levels of the minors and his floor seems to be solid setup man.

Porcelo is still on track to be a front line starter from what I can tell, but the gap between the two isn’t as wide as perceived (at least by myself) when they were drafted.

by madvillian on Feb 2, 2009 9:16 AM CST up reply actions  

There were a few cooler heads when that went down

Not everyone thought it was a good idea to be promising big league promotion no matter what.

"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."

by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."

by Tdogg on Feb 2, 2009 9:29 AM CST up reply actions  

no. he wasn't.

will it never end?

KW was upset with prior drafts. he was fine with the 2007 draft largely because he’s the one who took control of the picks. the top three picks were all quite good.

by larry on Feb 2, 2009 9:40 AM CST up reply actions  

If I recall wasn't that a bullshit assessment?

"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."

by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."

by Tdogg on Feb 1, 2009 10:22 PM CST up reply actions  

I just thought there was something about much of it coming from old videotape

etc. I could be mistaken.

"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."

by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."

by Tdogg on Feb 1, 2009 10:29 PM CST up reply actions  

i thought you were just playing along.

i have been on a crusade against that ridiculous article since it was published. i had thought i’d finally stamped it out. apparently not.

by larry on Feb 1, 2009 10:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Well, it's obvious now the article was wrong

Poreda’s minor league track record easily justifies the pick. I wasn’t suggesting that Poreda sucks, I was just stating that I was bamboozled by Torres at the time. I think you have stamped it out.

by hitlesswonder on Feb 1, 2009 10:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Whoever wrote that article

called Wieters an overdraft at 5. Scouting might not be his strong point.

by Off the bus running on Feb 2, 2009 8:14 AM CST up reply actions  

that was another rather large red flag.

considering, you know, it’s mathematically impossible to overdraft a catcher who is a plus defender and a menace from both sides of the plate.

by larry on Feb 2, 2009 9:10 AM CST up reply actions  

Gomez didn't like Wieters?

eesh. BP already called him the likely best catcher in baseball.

Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.

by colintj on Feb 2, 2009 1:00 PM CST up reply actions  

it was another one of those "i watched this one video of wieters and i'm going to overweight that".

which was pretty amazing considering he said he’d seen wieters many times before and was impressed. and then he later ranked wieters the top position prospect drafted in 2007. go figure.

by larry on Feb 2, 2009 1:16 PM CST up reply actions  

the D-backs saw the light anyway.

Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.

by colintj on Feb 2, 2009 1:20 PM CST up reply actions  

he had plenty of legitimate stuff, too.

he just ran afoul of the golden rule to never judge a player by one viewing (or overweight one viewing). and then the people who read his stuff fell into the “omg! just because it’s on HBT and i don’t have access to other opinions i’ll lend full credence to one guy’s assessment”. small sample sizes are bad w/r/t opinions, too.

by larry on Feb 2, 2009 1:25 PM CST up reply actions  

But Wieters was leaking!

LEAKING!

EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine

by Sox Machine on Feb 2, 2009 3:06 PM CST up reply actions  

SO USE SOME CAULK

DO i HAVE TO THINK OF EVERYTHING AROUND HEER?

by larry on Feb 2, 2009 3:18 PM CST up reply actions  

The evidence - Gomez verdict

Poreda –
http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/breaking-down-the-drafts-1st-round-picks-21-30/

Wieters
http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/breaking-down-the-drafts-1st-round-picks-1-10/

"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."

by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."

by Tdogg on Feb 2, 2009 2:25 PM CST up reply actions  

if Viciedo makes the team

Nickname for him and Chelexei: Fat Man and Little Boy

White Sox '09 Slogan: Maybe we can?

by vince_ on Feb 1, 2009 10:22 PM CST reply actions  

that has a lot going for it.

Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.

by colintj on Feb 1, 2009 10:29 PM CST up reply actions  

yes. a 27 year old who is 6'3".

little boy is the first thing that comes to mind.

by larry on Feb 1, 2009 10:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Not to mention his wife 3 kids.

Lots of little boys have a wife and 3 kids and actually provide for them.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Feb 2, 2009 8:15 AM CST up reply actions  

We discussed in a previous thread

That Dayan’s nickname would be Hot Fire. Brought to you by the Chappell show. Dayan spits HOT FIRE.

by JoeCoolMan24 on Feb 1, 2009 11:18 PM CST up reply actions  

oops

Michael Phelps was gonna catch up with and eat the shit out of both of you but he got high. Ladi da da da.

by Andronicus on Feb 1, 2009 10:58 PM CST reply actions  

hello, welcome to the top of this page

thanks for the picture though

Michael Phelps can swim faster than you can run. He can probably swim faster than you can break the sound barrier. If you and a friend are swimming, and Michael Phelps is coming to eat you, you only have to be faster than your friend.

Just kidding. Michael Phelps will catch up with and eat the shit out of both of you.

by U-God on Feb 1, 2009 11:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Where can I get the complete list of + - rankings?

link?

"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."

by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."

by Tdogg on Feb 1, 2009 11:05 PM CST reply actions  

little help here?

Or is it fck tdogg day?

"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."

by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."

by Tdogg on Feb 2, 2009 9:30 AM CST up reply actions  

pretty please.

"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."

by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."

by Tdogg on Feb 2, 2009 9:30 AM CST up reply actions  

i imagine the "complete list" will be available in dewan's book which is coming out this month.

the list of leaders and trailers was in bill james’ book. probably available on bill james’ site, too.

by larry on Feb 2, 2009 10:25 AM CST up reply actions  

Thank you.

Yeah I saw the leaders in James book. I just drove myself crazy late last night looking to no avail and didn’t want to pay for a James subscription.

"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."

by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."

by Tdogg on Feb 2, 2009 10:32 AM CST up reply actions  

since jim is too polite to do this himself

at least until his apartment is filled with unsold books, be sure to set aside some money for his book “white sox outsider 2009”.

http://soxmachine.com/blogs/soxmachine/archive/2009/02/02/15017.aspx

by larry on Feb 2, 2009 9:16 AM CST reply actions  

how much will said book cost?

Michael Phelps can swim faster than you can run. He can probably swim faster than you can break the sound barrier. If you and a friend are swimming, and Michael Phelps is coming to eat you, you only have to be faster than your friend.

Just kidding. Michael Phelps will catch up with and eat the shit out of both of you.

by U-God on Feb 2, 2009 9:22 AM CST up reply actions  

And ETA, Jim?

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Feb 2, 2009 9:39 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, nobody.

I read it and didn’t see it. Doesn’t mean it’s not there – I didn’t see it, Mr. Helpful.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Feb 2, 2009 9:47 AM CST up reply actions  

The only thing I see referenced re: time is "And speaking of Feb.14".

So I guess one could infer. But inferring on this site = death.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Feb 2, 2009 9:50 AM CST up reply actions  

what is that book about?

review of sox roster, farm system, etc?

by LT_sox_fan on Feb 2, 2009 12:51 PM CST up reply actions  

To answer questions

1. Book will cost roughly $20, give or take a buck. I will try to keep it below it.

2. ETA: As long as the copy I receive looks good, Feb. 14.

3. Here’s a description of the contents.

EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine

by Sox Machine on Feb 2, 2009 3:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Thanks, Jim.

Since I am afraid going on your site because of loneliness, how do I order one?

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Feb 2, 2009 3:07 PM CST up reply actions  

I'll have a link next week.

EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine

by Sox Machine on Feb 2, 2009 3:43 PM CST up reply actions  

sweet ...

thanks for the content link as well. Looking forward to getting the book.

by LT_sox_fan on Feb 2, 2009 10:05 PM CST up reply actions  

McPhail

has a hard on for useless Cub crap.

Orioles Close To Rich Hill Deal
By Tim Dierkes [February 2 at 10:16am CST]
We learned yesterday from Jeff Zrebiec of the Baltimore Sun that the Orioles are close to acquiring pitcher Rich Hill from the Cubs for a player to be named later.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Feb 2, 2009 10:32 AM CST reply actions  

you really think Hill is useless crap?

"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."

by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."

by Tdogg on Feb 2, 2009 10:33 AM CST up reply actions  

They are a pretty good judge of future success.

Look at that track record!

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Feb 2, 2009 10:41 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah

He is crap.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Feb 2, 2009 10:35 AM CST up reply actions  

Well I would love for Coop to get his hands on him.

He is definitely struggling. But a player 1 year removed from 3.1 value wins and 29 is not crap.

"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."

by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."

by Tdogg on Feb 2, 2009 10:38 AM CST up reply actions  

Who knows...
Rich Hill: It was a puzzling year for Hill. He shined in 2007, going 11-8 with a 3.92 ERA and led the team in strikeouts. He had trouble throwing strikes in ’08.

Hill began last season in Chicago’s rotation, and was sent to the Minor Leagues after walking 18 and giving up 13 hits over 19 2/3 innings in five starts. He pitched for Iowa, Class A Daytona and even the Rookie team in Mesa, and control continued to be a problem as he walked 44 over 47 2/3 innings.

This winter, Hill pitched for Aragua in Venezuela, and did well in his first start Oct. 17. He did not walk a batter over 5 1/3 innings and struck out six. That was his only win in his nine outings, and he finished with 23 walks and 23 hits over 21 innings.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Feb 2, 2009 10:50 AM CST up reply actions  

Does this not sound like Gavin circa 2006-2007?

Or Contreras in his Spanks heyday? Give me (and Coop) a guy who has at least tasted success and it’s easier to bring him back than a guy who never has.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Feb 2, 2009 10:52 AM CST up reply actions  

And Hill just didnt taste success

He was freaking great in 07. Enough at least for somebody to take a chance on.

"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."

by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."

by Tdogg on Feb 2, 2009 10:56 AM CST up reply actions  

Great?

He was good, I don’t think 119 ere+ in 195 IP is “great”. It’s pretty good, but given his work lately it might have just been a fluke.

Again, seems like a risk worth taking for the right ballclub. Just not sure that club is the orioles.

ON a side note, this has to mean the Peavy trade is not dead right?

by madvillian on Feb 2, 2009 11:06 AM CST up reply actions  

yeah I thought about that word after I hit enter

great is too strong. But I do feel strongly about strikeout pitchers. Even with his troubles the guy still does that. As for the O’s if he does turn it around you can probably flip him or he is still young enough to contribute later.

Floyd is younger but his early success in his 1 year doesn’t compare to Hill’s imo.

"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."

by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."

by Tdogg on Feb 2, 2009 11:11 AM CST up reply actions  

there was also a lot more hype around floyd and much higher expectations

Michael Phelps can swim faster than you can run. He can probably swim faster than you can break the sound barrier. If you and a friend are swimming, and Michael Phelps is coming to eat you, you only have to be faster than your friend.

Just kidding. Michael Phelps will catch up with and eat the shit out of both of you.

by U-God on Feb 2, 2009 12:04 PM CST up reply actions  

They didn't suck that bad

they didn’t get sent down to low minors and suck and get cut from their winter ball team.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Feb 2, 2009 10:58 AM CST up reply actions  

Gavin was a throw-in.

And Count was picked up for peanuts. Please. Go back and see what the reaction to Gavin’s pickup on this site was. It was the same as if we picked up Rich Hill, I’d wager – that Coop was going to have to work his magic.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Feb 2, 2009 10:59 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm not doubting what the reaction was

but I still think he is garbage. I know what he did in 2007, and what he did in the minors before that…but last year he totally lost all confidence. Really, he lost all confidence after he got rocked in the postseason in 07. He is 29-years old, out of options and has mental issues.

No thanks.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Feb 2, 2009 11:10 AM CST up reply actions  

Add a couple of years, BSS,

and look in the mirror.

I, for one, am not giving up on you. NEVER! You may give up on yourself, and your ilk, but NOT ME!

;)

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Feb 2, 2009 11:21 AM CST up reply actions  

Thanks buddy, you old POS!

I just turned 33 and reality set in last night (again).

I went to a superbowl party with the wife and daughter (5-months) and there were 2 other babies there and other couples all looking at having a baby soon. Babies were crying, hard to hear the game, had to keep getting up to change a diaper, make a bottle, etc – then my buddy calls me from “English” – a pretty good bar on LaSalle and says he with some girls on the second floor watching the game and I should come over.

Reality Bites.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Feb 2, 2009 11:46 AM CST up reply actions  

career era+ of 104 compared to 97 for gavin

4 years older than gavin though, and his best season is remarkably close to Floyd’s

Seems like a decent guy to take a flyer on for a team looking for a 5th starter.

Not sure what the hell he does for the Orioles though, so they win 78 games instead of 77.

by madvillian on Feb 2, 2009 11:05 AM CST up reply actions  

maybe to take a flier on

fixing him in your minor league system, but not to count on for a rotation spot. His situation is vastly different than Floyd’s . . . age, for example. And Gavin never had this level of a control problem.

by jc2313 on Feb 2, 2009 11:37 AM CST up reply actions  

Gavin was a serious head case.

He may be younger, but he was equally mentally lost.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Feb 2, 2009 12:18 PM CST up reply actions  

I guess if you can

make that judgement from a far. But, there is a difference between lack of confidence and an inability to throw the ball anywhere near the plate.

by jc2313 on Feb 2, 2009 1:13 PM CST up reply actions  

o's take a flier

because he’s cheap and can allow them to keep prospects in the minors for seasoning instead of rushing them up. he’s a pretty low-risk move for a team like baltimore

Michael Phelps can swim faster than you can run. He can probably swim faster than you can break the sound barrier. If you and a friend are swimming, and Michael Phelps is coming to eat you, you only have to be faster than your friend.

Just kidding. Michael Phelps will catch up with and eat the shit out of both of you.

by U-God on Feb 2, 2009 12:06 PM CST up reply actions  

He's out of options?

I think he needs to stay on the big league club…Yanks, Red Sox, Rays get to tee off on him. Fun!

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Feb 2, 2009 12:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Hill couldn't make it at Rookie ball last year

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Feb 2, 2009 1:39 PM CST up reply actions  

You crack me up sometimes Bobby

"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."

by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."

by Tdogg on Feb 2, 2009 2:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Guys do well when they leave the Cubs.

They get away from the Kryptonite. I’d take a shot at him. I’d rather have him than Sweaty.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Feb 2, 2009 10:33 AM CST up reply actions  

Baseball Prospectus has just put

the White Sox top 11 prospects up.

Sometimes I miss the days when if you thought the guy was a good ballplayer you were right because no one knew any better.

by bberdl20 on Feb 2, 2009 10:33 AM CST reply actions  

gENTLEMAN....

I asked Kenny the question about Gomez on Saturday…..you all saw those comments. Much more interesting was my talk with Rick Hahn, who I caught privately….I don’t think there’s any question they’ll nab Gomez once all the red tape has cleared and if the price is tolerable.

by dantesox on Feb 2, 2009 11:43 AM CST reply actions  

Rejoice Dante will definitely be happy!

okay I admit it, I would be too……..

"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."

by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."

by Tdogg on Feb 2, 2009 11:44 AM CST up reply actions  

DWise was one of our best hitters towards the end of the season...

An absolute BEAST in his short playoff appearance as well…

So, if I am reading the two options correctly . . .
we can either a) keep dye or b) trade dye . . . is that you Phil Rogers?

by jc2313 on Dec 11, 2008 4:53 PM CST up reply recommended Unrec 1

by Where Triples Go to Die on Feb 2, 2009 1:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Other side notes....

Hahn LOVES Santos Rodriguez and expects him to come quick…. Buddy Bell likes Brent Morel and the young Venezuelan shortstop Escobar…..(I think he’s Venezuelan)…..says he reminds him a lot of Ozzie.

by dantesox on Feb 2, 2009 11:46 AM CST up reply actions  

Starter Conversion

Was it Santos or Nunez that KW said will be converted to a starter?

I remember reading that about one of them, but can’t remember which.

by DirtySox on Feb 2, 2009 11:53 AM CST up reply actions  

Hahn

believes Nunez will be a reliever despite being used as a starter primarily…..I don’t remember Kenny saying anything about him…..but I was only there Saturday.

by dantesox on Feb 2, 2009 11:54 AM CST reply actions  

dANTESOX

have you got any more rumours?

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by hoodlight on Feb 2, 2009 1:23 PM CST reply actions  

No....

I was lucky to get the three minutes I got WITH hAHN, WHO WAS REALLY GRACIOUS and I thought pretty forthcoming…..those things I wrote about Bell and Hahn about the minor leaguers was during another seminar between him, Laumann and Bell. I tried to get Laumann to say more, but he really was vague. Then again, it was a seminar in front of a few hundred people.

by dantesox on Feb 2, 2009 2:02 PM CST up reply actions  

So is Allen the real deal?

I knew he was a solid prospect, but was surprised to see in Larry’s posting that BA had him ranked so high.

Could he be our 1B in 2010, assuming Dye is not back and Thome is gone (both look like fair assumptions at worst)? That would obv mean PK is moved to DH, if not traded.

by Crede's Crew on Feb 2, 2009 3:32 PM CST reply actions  

Letterman Next for Blago

It just keeps getting better.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/blagojevich/1408732,CST-NWS-blago02.article

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Feb 2, 2009 4:15 PM CST reply actions  

I hope someone else besides me has an eye on this Caribbean Series

because damn is this Dominican team stacked — Ricardo Nanita in right, both Aybars plus Ronnie Belliard in the infield, Ronny Paulino behind the plate, Ramon Ortiz on the hill. Oh, and did I mention TIMO PEREZ! DHing?

by CWSKeith on Feb 2, 2009 4:24 PM CST reply actions  

I'm just relieved that Q! isn't playing in the WBC

He’s ours and no one else is allowed to have him, damn it!

"No one is sure what Colon has left in his 5-foot-11-inch, 250-plus-pound body." - Chicago Tribune 1/15/09

by tailgater on Feb 2, 2009 4:40 PM CST up reply actions  

did you all watch the superball?

lots of people I know did, even no one has a clue what it’s about , just to be trendy.
It’s 25 cm of snow here
fridge effect I have my bobby hat on

number one when it mattered!

by hoodlight on Feb 2, 2009 5:48 PM CST reply actions  

I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.

by thatshortkid on Feb 2, 2009 6:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Snow and cold in the UK

Must be the result of global warming…I mean, uh, climate change.

Bwaaa, ha, ha, ha!

"No one is sure what Colon has left in his 5-foot-11-inch, 250-plus-pound body." - Chicago Tribune 1/15/09

by tailgater on Feb 2, 2009 6:23 PM CST up reply actions  

my lady flew to your neck of the woods yesterday for work

originally scheduled for heathrow but had to be rerouted through manchester first. took forever.

plus, she’s a steeler fan and was in the air for the entire super bowl. ha!

I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.

by thatshortkid on Feb 2, 2009 6:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Is she British?

number one when it mattered!

by hoodlight on Feb 2, 2009 6:37 PM CST up reply actions  

nope. from pittsburgh

you know, places that get proper snow and know how to effectively deal with it.

I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.

by thatshortkid on Feb 2, 2009 6:41 PM CST up reply actions  

I've never been to the US

but I did go out with a bird from Pittsburgh who studied at the UL, she was lovely as well, one of the nicest people I’ve ever known

number one when it mattered!

by hoodlight on Feb 2, 2009 6:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Ollie Perez worth 3/$36MM? Somewhere in SoCal, Jon Garland inhales deeply.

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/9170274/Sources:-Mets-re-up-with-Perez-for-3-years,-$36M

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Feb 2, 2009 7:08 PM CST reply actions  

Uncle WU!

I’ve been out for a drink tonight but there was a lot more snow than in this pic

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by hoodlight on Feb 2, 2009 7:16 PM CST up reply actions  

It looks great.

Where are the hooligans?

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Feb 2, 2009 7:22 PM CST up reply actions  

all gone home

number one when it mattered!

by hoodlight on Feb 2, 2009 7:27 PM CST up reply actions  

I immidiately became thirsty just looking at that place

And plenty of parking right in front of the joint!

I’ll bet I could knock back a few pints there and when I’m done I’d be within walking distance of what appears to be a cathedral where I could go and repent for the sins I had committed.

"No one is sure what Colon has left in his 5-foot-11-inch, 250-plus-pound body." - Chicago Tribune 1/15/09

by tailgater on Feb 2, 2009 9:26 PM CST up reply actions  

hello pedro?
Righty Ben Sheets — who, like Wolf, represented a fallback position for the Mets — could end up with the Rangers, but only on the club’s preferred terms. Sheets’ talks with Texas have “less momentum” than they did 10 days ago, according to a source.

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Feb 2, 2009 9:18 PM CST up reply actions  

DEAR ABBY: My daughter’s 15-year-old friend “Willa” no longer comes over to our house. When I asked my daughter why, she said my husband told Willa she was getting fat. Willa told her mother, and her mother told her not to visit us anymore.

I confronted my husband and told him his comment was rude and that he should never have said it. My husband says I’m wrong, making a huge deal out of nothing and he did not mean anything by it. As a mother, I would not appreciate a grown man making comments about my daughter’s body.

Am I wrong to think my husband’s remark is a form of sexual harassment, even though it was not in the workplace? — UPSET MOM IN BELLFLOWER

DEAR UPSET MOM: I wouldn’t classify your husband’s unfortunate remark as sexual harassment. I would, however, call it extremely hilarious and awesome. So it cost your daughter a girlfriend, so WHAT. I’m sure your husband would have been similarly amused and mirthed had Willa remarked to him that he is getting a paunch or losing his hair. Suggest it to him, and maybe then he’ll call your daughter’s friend Shaquanda some racist epithets.

by larry on Feb 2, 2009 9:58 PM CST reply actions   2 recs

"Hilarious and awesome." Rec'd.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Feb 3, 2009 7:59 AM CST reply actions  

I am a moron - re: larry's post - about the reply button.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Feb 3, 2009 8:00 AM CST up reply actions  

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