LIFE Magazine: Goodby To Some Old Baseball Ideas
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The Cheat
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Did you read the rest of the magazine?
The French are involved in a war in some place called Vietnam. Hope we don’t get pulled into that.
by 67WMAQ on Oct 19, 2009 9:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Crap... just what we need, another Afghanistan
"ass hole thi is the same line up whit leftys you idiot"
by Brush Back on Oct 19, 2009 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
To think....1954....wow.
When Elvis started hitting the big time and WU was marrying his first wife. A LONG time ago, indeed.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Oct 19, 2009 10:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Too much sand
"Awarding a difference maker on the field - and in the community at large - has always been baseball's version of a home run." ~Stephen A. Smith
by Carbiner on Oct 19, 2009 11:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Meat
Great ad for meat. “You’re right in liking mean… a yadrstick of protein foods.” Uh, excuse me?
by palehose67 on Oct 20, 2009 8:48 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Correction:
“You’re right in liking meat… a yardstick of protein foods.”
by palehose67 on Oct 20, 2009 8:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds like you need some A-Rod.
I was a Catholic boy, Redeemed through pain, not through joy - Jim Carroll
by winningugly on Oct 20, 2009 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fascinating read, thanks!
"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "
by Chiburb on Oct 20, 2009 10:01 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I love old-timey ads
Advertisers should look to the past if they want to get my attention with Web ads because two wise-crackin’ dogs is far more interesting to me than that Bing ad I see up there
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by billyok on Oct 20, 2009 10:23 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
shouldn't that be ' 28 ' other teams
by hoodlight on Oct 20, 2009 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The sox want him too... unless there is something I don't know.
by Grinder in Training on Oct 20, 2009 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
how can you want something that you already have?
unless you’ve lost it
by hoodlight on Oct 20, 2009 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We want him in our 2010 plan.
That’s what this article / blog post whatever you want to call it was about.
They want him on their 2010 roster. We would like him on our 2010 roster, as every other team in baseball probably would. Especially for the crap they want to give up for him.
by Grinder in Training on Oct 20, 2009 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Has Texas changed their mind?
Clearly, they did not want him.
If the world was perfect, it wouldn't be -- Yogi Berra
by mick10 on Oct 20, 2009 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
2010 is promised to no one
except cockroaches and sand
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by billyok on Oct 20, 2009 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just because we have him doesn't mean we don't want him.
by Grinder in Training on Oct 20, 2009 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Am I drunk?
If so, I am getting into my car and driving to the TP SSS meet-up!
I was a Catholic boy, Redeemed through pain, not through joy - Jim Carroll
by winningugly on Oct 20, 2009 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Will there be any mom's that are sox fans that occasionally read sports
blogs and slam jager-bombs like m&m’s there?
If so, I’ll join you.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Oct 20, 2009 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll be in Florida in a few weeks
I’ll bring the drunk driving to you.
by Grinder in Training on Oct 20, 2009 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
doesn't want mean the absence of having?
I want – I covet – because there is a void. When I used to ask my mam for a bag of sweets it was because I didn’t have any, she’d still tell me to fuck off and give me a clout though
by hoodlight on Oct 20, 2009 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
clout sounds painful. why would your mom give you an STD just because you
asked for candy?
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Oct 20, 2009 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
clout?
didn’t know there was another meaning
by hoodlight on Oct 20, 2009 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you're on a site with a bunch of people from chicago.
clout certainly doesn’t mean here what you think it does.
by larry on Oct 20, 2009 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"give me a clout"?
I know what clout means in the general tense, yes. Especially living under the dictatorship of Hiz Honah Daley. But, never heard it mentioned this way…thought your mom gave you an STD or a black eye. (all in the same)
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Oct 20, 2009 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
a clout is a smack
almost always used in the context of something that is administered by adults to children to chastise them. probably not a good idea to associate it with STDs in this instance
by hoodlight on Oct 20, 2009 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damn, that's good.
I was a Catholic boy, Redeemed through pain, not through joy - Jim Carroll
by winningugly on Oct 20, 2009 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Mam, can I have some sweets, I finished my Meat Stew Pie..."
“Fuck off little hoodie. Can’t you see I’m watching Benny Hill?!”
Did it go like that?
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Oct 20, 2009 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I forgot the "smack"....
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Oct 20, 2009 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ELP reference.
Excellent.
I was a Catholic boy, Redeemed through pain, not through joy - Jim Carroll
by winningugly on Oct 20, 2009 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
For clarification:
Now Sidney was a greaser with some nasty roots
He poured a pint of Guinness over Benny’s boots
Benny looked at Sidney:
Sidney stared right back in his eye.
Sidney chose a switchblade
and Benny got a cold meat pie.
I was a Catholic boy, Redeemed through pain, not through joy - Jim Carroll
by winningugly on Oct 20, 2009 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
The dictionary definition of clout:
http://www.encyclopedia.chicagohistory.org/pages/1465.html
Mike Royko was a legendary Chicago newspaper columnist, and a first class boozer.
He probably penned the clout column in between hangovers.
by 67WMAQ on Oct 20, 2009 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's an alternative though rarely used definition here
the word ‘pull’ is used more commonly
by hoodlight on Oct 20, 2009 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
we're not talking about snogging some slapper here, hoodie.
this is politics.
by larry on Oct 20, 2009 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hoodie,
always looking out for the nookie, no matter what he has to do.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Oct 20, 2009 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That would be one of the ways to define wanting....
another one is simply “desiring.”
And si, we all desire to see Danksy put on a White Sox uniform in 2010.

by homesickalien on Oct 20, 2009 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
not sure larry does...
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Oct 20, 2009 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But it's not about what we have now at this moment.
If you want candy in 2010, and you had some now, but someone asks if you want to trade it for cheaper candy that doesn’t taste as good, then you could say no, I want the candy I have.
by Grinder in Training on Oct 20, 2009 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How do you know Lopez doesn't taste good?
That’s racist.
by homesickalien on Oct 20, 2009 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Little known fact: While GIT is hitting pedestrians with the front of his car, he's also dragging a queer from the tailgate.
Eco-friendly hatred.
by homesickalien on Oct 20, 2009 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I run over all varieties of life.
No discrimination here.
by Grinder in Training on Oct 20, 2009 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you saying John Danks isn't a man?
by Grinder in Training on Oct 20, 2009 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What makes a man?
Is it being prepared to do the right thing, whatever the cost?
Isn’t that what makes a man?
by homesickalien on Oct 20, 2009 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is that the lead singer from "Hanson" or a chick?
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Oct 20, 2009 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
doesn't matter.
either way, it’s what makes a man.
by larry on Oct 20, 2009 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Oh, you are aflame today.
I was a Catholic boy, Redeemed through pain, not through joy - Jim Carroll
by winningugly on Oct 20, 2009 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If hoodie would have done this to his mum
when she didn’t give him any candy, he’d probably be next in line to be knighted by the Queen.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Oct 20, 2009 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Set?
Are you saying my mono-balled brother-in-law is not a man? Are you?
I was a Catholic boy, Redeemed through pain, not through joy - Jim Carroll
by winningugly on Oct 20, 2009 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
depends on the size of it...
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Oct 20, 2009 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Big enough to father my niece.
I was a Catholic boy, Redeemed through pain, not through joy - Jim Carroll
by winningugly on Oct 20, 2009 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, yeah.
you can have females. but no male heir will be forthcoming.
by larry on Oct 20, 2009 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
oooh, ouch.
maybe we could start a relief fund or something?
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Oct 20, 2009 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you mad liberal scientists.
what god has taken away, let no half-man reassemble.
by larry on Oct 20, 2009 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
LOL!
My poor brother-in-law. He’s effed.
I was a Catholic boy, Redeemed through pain, not through joy - Jim Carroll
by winningugly on Oct 20, 2009 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
True Story
THE INDIAN WITH ONE TESTICLE
There once was an Indian who had only one testicle, and whose given name was ‘Onestone’. He hated that name and asked everyone not to call him Onestone.
After years and years of torment, Onestone finally cracked and said, “If anyone calls me Onestone again I will kill them!” The word got around and nobody called him that any more.
Then one day a young woman named Blue Bird forgot and said, “Good morning, Onestone.”
He jumped up, grabbed her and took her deep into the forest where he made love to her all day and all night. He made love to her all the next day, until Blue Bird died from exhaustion.
The word got around that Onestone meant what he promised he would do.
Years went by and no one dared call him by his given name until a woman named Yellow Bird returned to the village after being away.
Yellow Bird, who was Blue Bird’s cousin, was overjoyed when she saw Onestone.
She hugged him and said, “Good to see you, Onestone.”
Onestone grabbed her, took her deep into the forest, then he made love to her all day, made love to her all night, made love to her all the next day, made love to her all the next night, but Yellow Bird wouldn’t die!
What is the moral of this story?………………………
And the moral is…
You can’t kill two birds with one stone!"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Oct 20, 2009 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
U.S.S. Mariner wants Jack Zduriencik to come to Chicago, break into U.S. Cellular Field, beat Kenny Williams and Rick Hahn into bloody submission, rape their staff, and pillage John Danks.
fixed.
by larry on Oct 20, 2009 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
my favorite part?
The cost difference between Lopez and Danks for 2010-2011 (when Lopez is under contract) is $3.2M total (using your estimates). It’s trivial. I don’t know why you include the ~$15M in 2012, it’s not guaranteed. If Danks isn’t worth it, Chi doesn’t have to pay.
If you want to throw out 2012, then the difference in value between the two is "trivial" as well.
Danks is not that much more valuable than Lopez. Sorry, he’s just not.
" Do you guys know people like you are the reason I wouldn’t come on for exstended periods of time. You rui the baseball blogging expieriance."
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT
by U-God on Oct 20, 2009 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know, I'm a Jim fan.
Sox Machine on October 20th, 2009 8:56 am If the Sox wanted a second baseman who could hit 20 homers with a ~.300 OBP, they could just play Jayson Nix full-time. I don’t get how it makes sense to sap their one true strength for, at best, a mild upgrade that doesn’t address their biggest deficiency: on-base percentage. They were 10th in the league in OBP, and Lopez would likely bring that number down.
Lowe is a nice reliever, but given the recent track record, the Sox have wasted enough talent and money to try to find good relievers. They may as well raid the garbage and try to find another Thornton.
by homesickalien on Oct 20, 2009 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
my mistake.
i was just informed that jose lopez magically becomes a 3-3.5 WAR player in chicago. let’s get this done.
by larry on Oct 20, 2009 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the Greg Walker effect
" Do you guys know people like you are the reason I wouldn’t come on for exstended periods of time. You rui the baseball blogging expieriance."
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT
by U-God on Oct 20, 2009 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Cell has a shorter left field
That means Lopez’ OBP will be around………688.
The 2009 White Sox....like a 40 degree day.
by Ozzie Montana on Oct 20, 2009 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We call that the Nick Swisher Plan, which was renamed the Plan to Fuck Nick Swisher.
"...a mouth without grinders is like a mill without grindstone,"
-Don Quixote
by SkanchoDanza on Oct 20, 2009 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
gosh, yeah.
he totally doesn’t address in his analysis lopez’ attitude, grinderosity quotient and ballplayerness. i’d be concerned how he’d fit in the clubhouse.
by larry on Oct 20, 2009 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why don't we cut out the middle-man and agree to Fuck Jose Lopez right now?
"...a mouth without grinders is like a mill without grindstone,"
-Don Quixote
by SkanchoDanza on Oct 20, 2009 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Danks is ARRRRbitration eligible.
… sorry. I’m looking to earn my OPOS card.
"...a mouth without grinders is like a mill without grindstone,"
-Don Quixote
by SkanchoDanza on Oct 20, 2009 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, but Dave Cameron knows more than you.
The 2009 White Sox....like a 40 degree day.
by Ozzie Montana on Oct 20, 2009 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
like how john danks, who really isn't that much more valuable than jose lopez, is going to shatter the record for arbitration award.
by larry on Oct 20, 2009 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought Jeter had that locked in stone?
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Oct 20, 2009 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He also knows more than Shyam Das.
EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine
by Sox Machine on Oct 20, 2009 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is a team that gave us Matt Thornton for Joe Borchard.
by homesickalien on Oct 20, 2009 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But their fans are so smart and witty.
And Kenny Williams is a dumbass, Hawk Harrelson is annoying, Ozzie is an immigrant goon. Plus, we don’t have the amazing power of rally fries.
The 2009 White Sox....like a 40 degree day.
by Ozzie Montana on Oct 20, 2009 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
the sox also are poor and need to cut payroll.
particularly that $3M that danks is going to get. need to be concerned about that record-breaker in a couple years. if KW had a half a brain, he’d say screw it to the embargo and trade danks today before people read this analysis and realize danks isn’t that much more valuable than lopez. since he’s a dumbass, though, i don’t hold out much hope. shit, in a couple weeks the sox will be lucky to get lopez by himself for danks.
by larry on Oct 20, 2009 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He had 24 walks in 653 PAs
Only Dayton Moore wouldn’t jump on this amazing opportunity to nab Jose Lopez.
The 2009 White Sox....like a 40 degree day.
by Ozzie Montana on Oct 20, 2009 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
this lopez dude sonds just what we need
by hoodlight on Oct 20, 2009 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can he play leadoff?
I was a Catholic boy, Redeemed through pain, not through joy - Jim Carroll
by winningugly on Oct 20, 2009 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well then I guess we do owe them.
Danks for Lopez it is.
by Grinder in Training on Oct 20, 2009 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i gotta say, i'm really glad that finally, after fifteen years, halos heaven produced the "conclusive evidence" for why mariano rivera is so good.
http://www.halosheaven.com/2009/10/19/1092380/mariano-rivera-spitball-video
gosh, why did no one ever before think to watch rivera to see if he was doing this?
by larry on Oct 20, 2009 11:38 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That's pretty hilarious. So conclusive too.
by homesickalien on Oct 20, 2009 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Should we forward this to Linebrink? I vote yes
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Oct 20, 2009 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He'd just miss and spit in his own eye
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by billyok on Oct 20, 2009 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Spitting bricks.
I was a Catholic boy, Redeemed through pain, not through joy - Jim Carroll
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