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White Sox third baseman Gordon Beckham was named The Sporting News' 2009 American League rookie of the year.

The honor has special significance, since a panel of 338 major league players selected the winners. Philadelphia pitcher J.A. Happ won the National League's rookie honors.

Beckham batted .270 with 28 doubles, 14 home runs and 63 RBIs despite not being promoted to the Sox until June 4. Beckham played in 103 games for the Sox and made the adjustment to third base despite playing shortstop for his entire baseball career.

The Baseball Writers Association of America will announce its rookie of the year and other awards next month after the conclusion of the World Series.

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Surprising.

But nice. Many of the writers I’ve read have hin either third or don’t even mention him. And, while I’m at it, if the season started tomorrow, he’s hitting lead-off.

by dantesox on Oct 20, 2009 1:43 PM CDT reply actions  

I have a hunch the players vote more out of who impresses them

and who they believe will be best in the long run, whereas writers tend to “sabermetrize” the whole thing..Not saying which is right or wrong.

by dantesox on Oct 20, 2009 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

sabermetrize?

huh? do you mean, look at batting average and RBI and saves. the writers aren’t sabering anything.

by larry on Oct 20, 2009 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm referring to guys at BP and Keith Law.

But yeah, I see your point…..I mean, if we "pro-rated "Beckham’s season vs. the other “contenders,” I’m guessing he’d come out well. But, even as I’m saying that, I’m thinking Law did that, being Law, and still DIDN’T mention Beckham.

by dantesox on Oct 20, 2009 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

well, sort of.

i think he, like most writers, consider production. even if you’re the “best” player, in terms of projection, you’re not going to get the votes unless you played enough to get production, however that writer defines it (some, perhaps like law, probably look at things like WAR while others will just look at the classic counting stats, like RBI or saves or wins or home runs). however it’s defined, innings played is an important input; i don’t think anyone is doing much “pro-rating”.

by larry on Oct 20, 2009 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

well kind of makes sense

awards should be awarded on what you have done not what you should or are projected to do

by hoodlight on Oct 20, 2009 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

yup.

though i certainly agree with dante that the players who voted for this award probably aren’t doing much more analysis than “when i saw beckham, he looked like a good baseball player.” you’re probably getting a decent mix of tools and actual production when doing that sort of thing.

by larry on Oct 20, 2009 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's a little confusing.

A “non-saber” guy might do the prorating to see how he might fit in, then still not give him the award based on lack of cumulative numbers. A guy like Law cares little about cumulative numbers….yet he still doesn’t even have him in his top three?

by dantesox on Oct 20, 2009 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

I do enjoy when you have a conversation

with yourself, DS. And when there is a reply within a reply it’s even better.

I was a Catholic boy, Redeemed through pain, not through joy - Jim Carroll

by winningugly on Oct 20, 2009 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

I vote for Beckham.

…woohoo! my guy wins!

"...a mouth without grinders is like a mill without grindstone,"
-Don Quixote

by SkanchoDanza on Oct 20, 2009 2:12 PM CDT reply actions  

one of these days, Alice, one of these days...

(applause)

"...a mouth without grinders is like a mill without grindstone,"
-Don Quixote

by SkanchoDanza on Oct 20, 2009 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

'when i'm not entertaining thousands on the television I enjoy the smooth taste of a Lucky Strike brand cigarette...'

"ALL THESE WORLDS/ ARE YOURS EXCEPT/ EUROPA/ ATTEMPT NO
LANDING THERE/ USE THEM TOGETHER/ USE THEM IN PEACE"

by thecip on Oct 20, 2009 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

#

EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine

by Sox Machine on Oct 20, 2009 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Those...were..othe...days, my friend!

We thought they’d never end!

I was a Catholic boy, Redeemed through pain, not through joy - Jim Carroll

by winningugly on Oct 20, 2009 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

DB.

gO TEND TO YOUR WIFE, FER CHRISSAKES.

I was a Catholic boy, Redeemed through pain, not through joy - Jim Carroll

by winningugly on Oct 20, 2009 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

at 3 in the afternoon?

she had better be out making me some money.

by Trooper on Oct 20, 2009 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

My TMI moment of the day today (doing a little 815-esque riff):

BIG client comes in, discusses health issues, then says his common-law wife (20 years younger) is going in for exploratory surgery on Thursday. What are they looking for, you might ask? He says “She has intense pain when she climaxes. Not when we just have sex, but only when she climaxes. So that’s no fun.”

Swear to God. Finance is fascinating.

I was a Catholic boy, Redeemed through pain, not through joy - Jim Carroll

by winningugly on Oct 20, 2009 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

We have a reason to use the terminology.

You just don’t care enough.

I was a Catholic boy, Redeemed through pain, not through joy - Jim Carroll

by winningugly on Oct 20, 2009 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think she was molested

because all of these things can be attributed to childhood molestation.

She should try yoga. I heard it can cure AIDS.

;)

...take your hobbit circle jerk to another thread
by larry on May 18, 2009 8:58 PM PDT

by rhythm on Oct 20, 2009 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Uh, Jesus has never talked to me in person or by phone

come to think of it, that bastard hasn’t even sent me one lousy email or text message.

...take your hobbit circle jerk to another thread
by larry on May 18, 2009 8:58 PM PDT

by rhythm on Oct 20, 2009 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

nope

did you get one?

If so, I’m jealous and will contemplate a switch to Islam.

...take your hobbit circle jerk to another thread
by larry on May 18, 2009 8:58 PM PDT

by rhythm on Oct 20, 2009 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Have you ever analyzed the adverse effects of long-term crack use?

I did. I made a conscious decision to switch to Catholicism because, over time, it may be better for my overall health.

It’s a risky play, for sure, nothing like this is ever guaranteed, but it could be a big win in the end.

Maybe I’ll end up regretting it, but I do know this for certain, there’s a dealer on the street who can get me what I need should I ever change my mind, and to me, that’s comforting.

...take your hobbit circle jerk to another thread
by larry on May 18, 2009 8:58 PM PDT

by rhythm on Oct 20, 2009 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

WTF - Our Savior's ROY thread

is being subject to an old lady having intense pain while her older than dirt husband rubs his wrinkled up genitals insider her?

JHC, she doesn’t need a doctor. Get the old bastard some lube and call it a day…

Sorry, Savior, and Amen.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Oct 20, 2009 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Coital cephalgia.

It exists.

I was a Catholic boy, Redeemed through pain, not through joy - Jim Carroll

by winningugly on Oct 20, 2009 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

yep

I’d tell the old guy to fire WU and hire larry as his FA and attorney. Poor guy has WU spouting out about his sex life to a bunch of drunks that meet up in TP that spread the clout.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Oct 20, 2009 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

I believe you missed the part where he said

the overall act is fine – it’s only when she “peaks”.

And, yes, I was prudent in my advice. I am a fiduciary, after all.

I was a Catholic boy, Redeemed through pain, not through joy - Jim Carroll

by winningugly on Oct 20, 2009 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

no, i got it.

the pain likely results from the sudden realization that she married a disgusting old man for his money and now has to perform lewd acts with him for the rest of his life.

by larry on Oct 20, 2009 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

So she starts out faking orgasms with the old hoot

and he called her out on it. Now she has to take it to the next level and fake pain. She hasn’t thought this through. He won’t stop until she’s cured even if it means a transplant.

If the world was perfect, it wouldn't be -- Yogi Berra

by mick10 on Oct 20, 2009 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

yo no se

they just gave me some beta blockers and said to breathe more before I pop in her face

Praise Him!!

by Hawk is God on Oct 20, 2009 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lobotomies

If it’s good enough for Rosemary Kennedy,
it’s good enough for your wife

i'm celebrating the slaughter of the indigenous peoples of the western hemisphere.
what the fuck are you doing? - larry

by Scotty Ballgame on Oct 20, 2009 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

I hope this helps him get a date with nora dunn or melanie hustle

90’s SNL, baby.

"ALL THESE WORLDS/ ARE YOURS EXCEPT/ EUROPA/ ATTEMPT NO
LANDING THERE/ USE THEM TOGETHER/ USE THEM IN PEACE"

by thecip on Oct 20, 2009 2:22 PM CDT reply actions  

Victoria Whats'ername.

"...a mouth without grinders is like a mill without grindstone,"
-Don Quixote

by SkanchoDanza on Oct 20, 2009 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jackson.

She’s a cow.

I was a Catholic boy, Redeemed through pain, not through joy - Jim Carroll

by winningugly on Oct 20, 2009 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think she was 80's-hot in my 10-yr-old eyes.

"...a mouth without grinders is like a mill without grindstone,"
-Don Quixote

by SkanchoDanza on Oct 20, 2009 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Because she was blonde, big-chested,

and ditzy. (Not that Mrs. Carl looks like that – I have no idea – or that it’s a bad thing on a woman to have those attributes.)

I was a Catholic boy, Redeemed through pain, not through joy - Jim Carroll

by winningugly on Oct 20, 2009 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jessica Rabbit also turned your crank, didnt she?

You look him square in the eye and tell him "Yes Sir, the check is in the mail"

by DrEmilioLizardo on Oct 20, 2009 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

:

"Accept the mystery."

by Andronicus on Oct 20, 2009 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nora Dunn = Norm MacDonald, No?

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Oct 20, 2009 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

I bet Cowley voted for Morneau....

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Oct 20, 2009 2:47 PM CDT reply actions  

Joe Chat - relevant warning
dtwhite (Toronto): Which team should want Matt Holliday the most?

Joe Sheehan: Any AL Central team except the Royals, because the marginal value of Holliday might be enough to make any of them the division favorite, and he’d play for all four teams.

by hoodlight on Oct 20, 2009 3:09 PM CDT reply actions  

d*mn slow trigger finger!

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Oct 20, 2009 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

doesn't matter who is agent is anyway.

the sox apparently need to dump danks’ $3 million salary so there’s no way they’d be able to afford holliday, whoever is agent was.

by larry on Oct 20, 2009 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

jesus fuck?

how much does that go for these days?

by Trooper on Oct 20, 2009 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

If you have to ask,

you’ve not saved enough.

I was a Catholic boy, Redeemed through pain, not through joy - Jim Carroll

by winningugly on Oct 20, 2009 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is that like "Go, Cubs, go"?

I was a Catholic boy, Redeemed through pain, not through joy - Jim Carroll

by winningugly on Oct 20, 2009 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fuck you all, Jesus is our one true Savior...except for Gordon Beckham

anyways, you’re all going to hell. Assholes.

;)

...take your hobbit circle jerk to another thread
by larry on May 18, 2009 8:58 PM PDT

by rhythm on Oct 20, 2009 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

boras

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Oct 20, 2009 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sheehan = Heyman?

I was a Catholic boy, Redeemed through pain, not through joy - Jim Carroll

by winningugly on Oct 20, 2009 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

free tattoo (south chicago)
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http://chicago.craigslist.org/sox/zip/1429985383.html

by larry on Oct 20, 2009 3:22 PM CDT reply actions  

The Ohka family has had to hustle

since Toma stopped pitching.

I was a Catholic boy, Redeemed through pain, not through joy - Jim Carroll

by winningugly on Oct 20, 2009 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

No love for the free bag of clothes?
I will be putting the bag out in a few minutes. Putting the stuff together and in the bag and putting it in front of my house.

In it:
*Lots of womens clothes
*Make up
*Cologne + Perfume
*Shampoo + Conditioner

Women’s clothes consist of larger womens clothing. Think 150-200 pounds.
Large and XL shirts
Pants range from 8-14
Some dressy stuff in there.

Some clothes are washed, and some need to be washed. It’s free, so don’t complain.

I have a feeling some large woman is in for a nasty surprise when she gets home from work.

by 67WMAQ on Oct 20, 2009 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Think the locks have been changed?

I was a Catholic boy, Redeemed through pain, not through joy - Jim Carroll

by winningugly on Oct 20, 2009 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

It gets better
I will try to keep a look out to see if the bag is gone and take this posting down.
I cannot guarantee that I will take it down in time. So please don’t commute out here from a fall away place. Use your head. There are a lot of people out there that jump at these kinds of postings.

http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/zip/1429964806.html

by 67WMAQ on Oct 20, 2009 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

You are wasting your talents at a law firm, my friend.

I was a Catholic boy, Redeemed through pain, not through joy - Jim Carroll

by winningugly on Oct 20, 2009 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Take your hobbit circle-jerk to another thread.

;)

...take your hobbit circle jerk to another thread
by larry on May 18, 2009 8:58 PM PDT

by rhythm on Oct 20, 2009 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Liz?

"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "

by Chiburb on Oct 20, 2009 6:10 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions   2 recs

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