Who Was Buying Miguel Cabrera's Drinks Friday Night?

by The Cheat on Oct 5, 2009 3:07 PM CDT Comment 71 comments

Detroit Tigers' Miguel Cabrera heads to first base after hitting into a double play against the Chicago White Sox in the eighth inning of a baseball game Saturday, Oct. 3, 2009 in Detroit. Cabrera was hitless in four at-bats with runners on base. The White Sox defeated the Tigers 5-1. (AP Photo/Duane Burleson)

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about 1 month ago: Detroit Tigers' Miguel Cabrera heads to first base after hitting into a double play against the Chicago White Sox in the eighth inning of a baseball game Saturday, Oct. 3, 2009 in Detroit. Cabrera was hitless in four at-bats with runners on base. The White Sox defeated the Tigers 5-1. (AP Photo/Duane Burleson)

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By now you've heard that Miguel Cabrera got into a three-times-the-legal-limit drunken brawl with his wife early Saturday morning. I had actually read that Cabrera had clearly been in a fight a few hours before gametime on Saturday, and he had obvious bruising showing in his rare TV closeups, so the fight itself isn't exactly news (at least not to us). What is news however, is that "Cabrera had been partying with buddies from the Chicago White Sox after Friday night's game at Birmingham's Townsend Hotel."

That is significantly more interesting...

So who were the bad influences?

Poll

Which members of the White Sox were getting drunk with Cabrera Friday night?

Ozzie Guillen

379 votes

AJ Pierzynski

135 votes

Jermaine Dye

18 votes

Paul Konerko

12 votes

Alexei Ramirez

79 votes

Gordon Beckham

18 votes

Octavio Dotel

198 votes

Bobby Jenks

36 votes

Freddy Garcia

495 votes

Other (including Jerry Owens)

77 votes

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it was jerry owens and ozzie’s children.

by larry on Oct 5, 2009 3:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Do you wanna fill out the official SB*N baseball post-season awards ballot

I’ve refrained for 2 years in a row now — We get two ballots, just like the real media (aren’t we cute?)

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by The Cheat on Oct 5, 2009 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

ok

by larry on Oct 5, 2009 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

check your SSSemail

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by The Cheat on Oct 5, 2009 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I suppose that means those who want to take my vote should contact me via email...

I’ll decide who receives the one (or two) ballots based on the same criteria I use for front-pagitude, genitalia and sexual favors.

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by The Cheat on Oct 5, 2009 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

we should convene a roundtable discussion on this.

by larry on Oct 5, 2009 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

genitalia and sexual favors?

sure, I’m in

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by The Cheat on Oct 5, 2009 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

community vote!

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by colintj on Oct 5, 2009 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Take your circle jerk SB*N community vote

to another site.

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by winningugly on Oct 5, 2009 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

is there an awards banquet for this?

black tie, a few bands, some bad comedy and Kanye jumping on the stage yelling in banter that Beyonce (HSA) got screwed out of an award for her Q! Lovefest Poster….

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Oct 5, 2009 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I agree

I vote Ozzie Jr—and maybe one or both of his brothers.

by EddyStanky'sGhost on Oct 6, 2009 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

not the first time for miggy

In the August incident, according to the information, a man told Birmingham police that he and an unnamed teen encountered Cabrera at the Rugby Grille on Aug. 31 about 6:30 p.m. Cabrera allegedly asked the teen, who weighs about 300 pounds, “What’s up, big boy? You need to work out,” according to the information provided to The News.

The teen then asked Cabrera to stop taunting him and said, “Let me be.”

But it became confrontational, the man told police: Cabrera allegedly challenged the man and the teen. “Let’s go right now. I’ll fight both of you right now. Let’s go outside.” At one point, the man told police he felt that Cabrera intimated that he had a gun, saying he was going to go to his vehicle and get his “click-clack” and making a motion with his hands that he interpreted as the racking of a handgun.

Richard Fenton, the Tigers security representative, told police that he later searched Cabrera’s vehicle and did not find a weapon, and he said Cabrera indicated he did not have a gun. The incident prompted the Tigers to hold a meeting with Cabrera, General Manager Dave Dombrowski and a team lawyer, Fenton told police. It was then that Cabrera was told to stay out of the Townsend.

http://www.detnews.com/article/20091005/SPORTS0104/910050376/Tigers-warned-Cabrera-after-bar-altercation-in-August—reports-show

by larry on Oct 5, 2009 3:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

That is hilarious

by Q!'s Qrew on Oct 5, 2009 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

"click clack"

I am sure that was what Uribe said before he pulled out his shotgun and fired.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Oct 5, 2009 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

"What's up big boy?"

by Q!'s Qrew on Oct 5, 2009 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

yep, that's probably how it started....

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Oct 5, 2009 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Which one of you owns this establishment?

by Carbiner on Oct 5, 2009 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs

Pretty sickening.

If true.

by expatnyc on Oct 6, 2009 7:31 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs

Freddy Garcia is one of the detroit theories.

He’s Venezuelan, and has some drinking history.

by rcpratt on Oct 5, 2009 3:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

He was supposed to be on the list

glaring omission, as in I thought I had him listed second after Oz

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by The Cheat on Oct 5, 2009 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'll add since it's hardly a scientific poll

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by The Cheat on Oct 5, 2009 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Good to see you are still sharp

the day after the season’s over, Cheat.

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by winningugly on Oct 5, 2009 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i like how my vote got changed after the cheat's "revisions"

god i love china.

by larry on Oct 5, 2009 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

A regular Doc Ellis.

Or Sudden Sam McDowell.

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by winningugly on Oct 5, 2009 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

hey, david wells pitched a perfect game drunk.

by rcpratt on Oct 5, 2009 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Freddy's '09 awesomeness

was entirely due to gettin’ off the weed and hittin’ the bottle.

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by colintj on Oct 5, 2009 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Have you gotten a chance to peruse the 2010 ZiPS projections yet? Dan's got 'em up on BTF (don't know if they were posted here yet).

by CWSKeith on Oct 5, 2009 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

wow that was fast

i haven’t.

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by colintj on Oct 5, 2009 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

well

i’d take the over on Beckham’s projection, though if he’s more like a .270/.330/.450 hitter, i’d much prefer he play short. here’s the approximate WAR prorated to 600 PA/150 IP if we eyeball the defense from fangraphs and convert the slash line to wOBA:

AJ: -10 D/-3 O ~ 2 WAR
PK: 2.5/13.5 ~ 2.4
Getz: 0/-8 ~ 1.5
Savior: 0/6 ~ 2.9
Che: 0/2 ~ 3.0
Q: -7/15 ~ 2.0
Rios: 3/2 ~ 2.8

Looks like a pretty typical Kenny team. Great pitching, average position players. Keep in mind that if we add a replacement level RF and DH, that would still be 6~7 wins better than the ‘09 position players. If there’s $10-15MM to play with, I’d really like to go after Chone. He switch hits, can play plus D seemingly anywhere and had a real breakout after he turned 30. Ideal would be Thome, Chone and some rotation fodder. Balanced lineup, good defense, great pitching.

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by colintj on Oct 5, 2009 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Re: RF and DH -- they were below replacement level this year?

I could probably buy RF, what with Dye’s miserable defense. DH though? Is an .810 OPS (for Sox DHs) really below replacement level? Or did you mean to say that if the Sox add average-level RF and DH for 2009 they’d add 6-7 wins?

I’m certainly with you on your end — build the 2009 team around great pitching and good defense — but I’m still not sure about your means — Figgins. I just think the Sox would have to commit too many years. I’m definitely with you on bringing back Thome (although I had Flowers pegged as a backup plan in case Thome finally reaches the cliff, but ZiPS doesn’t like Flowers very much). That third OF spot is the question mark. Is Byrd’s bat for real? Even if he’s only, say, league average, his glove alone is worth several wins over Dye (and him + Thome wouldn’t even likely cost $10 million combined for 2010). I’d love to have Mike Cameron on a short deal too. I’m fine with the 2B situation — the glut of slightly below average-ness that the Sox have there (with CJ as a backup plan — I’ve asked Dan to add his projection).

by CWSKeith on Oct 5, 2009 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

DH was not below replacement

i was just saying that when you look at the total WAR from this season for the Sox and compare that to the total from the ‘10 ZiPS WAR i figured, the difference is 6-7 wins. so if we stick replacement level players at RF and DH (the two spots i didn’t fill in with anyone), we’d still be 6-7 wins better if those prorated projections panned (alliteration ftw!) out. we were just awful position-wise. only the royals were worse in the AL. second best pitching though.

as for Chone, i’ve been throwing him around b/c someone linked to a Gregor post that said he only wanted 10 and 3. i’m just looking for a real lefty bat and some defense. i’m not sure if there’s a non-leet FA out there that qualifies and plays the OF. AJ is the only of the former on the team. Getz could qualify with a breakout of some kind and Q! sort of qualifies with his injury problems and reverse splits.

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by colintj on Oct 6, 2009 12:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

"Play plus D anywhere"

In the infield, or outfield, too? I’ve heard he’s Podsish when it comes to the latter, and UZR seems to agree.

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by Sox Machine on Oct 5, 2009 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

just being over the top

i’ll go with UZR and say infield only. but a Getz replacement is a decent idea, since he’s got low upside and health issues.

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by colintj on Oct 5, 2009 11:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

how does AJ not have the runaway with this?

octavio dotel? really?

Or if Peterson's "troublesome" back gives out. Because he's, you know, carrying the team. And some of those guys are heavy.

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by blackoutsox on Oct 5, 2009 3:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Name a Hispanic opponent AJ hangs out with.

Actually, name a Hispanic teammate AJ hangs out with.

I was a Catholic boy, Redeemed through pain, not through joy - Jim Carroll

by winningugly on Oct 5, 2009 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Racist!

by Q!'s Qrew on Oct 5, 2009 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Name a non wrestler AJ hangs out with

by Carbiner on Oct 5, 2009 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Johnny Damon and Jason Varitek.

From Dr. Phillips High School days.

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by winningugly on Oct 5, 2009 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Would've gone with Jeff Kent in retrospect

by Carbiner on Oct 5, 2009 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Other - Obviously Don Cooper & Jim Leyland

neither has ever turned down a drink or a bottle of cheap scotch.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Oct 5, 2009 4:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Been too long since i have posted here

But it has to be hawk.

by No Pressure on Oct 5, 2009 4:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Miggy bad boy

Tight race and out drinking til 6 not cool. Teammates gotta be ultra pissed off.

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by ChicagoPete on Oct 5, 2009 4:48 PM CDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs

I think beating his wife

Is the biggest “bad boy” factor here.. not cool Miguel, not cool

by 815Sox on Oct 5, 2009 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

bitch didnt have a sammich waiting for him.

lets go dodgers

by BoeJouma on Oct 5, 2009 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

seems to me

this may not have been a “beating his wife” scenario and more of a drunken struggle over his cell phone. but perhaps i’m one to draw a line between straight out smacking your wife and that. either way, sounds to me like miggy might have a little alcohol problem that should be addressed so he doesn’t cross that perhaps arbitrary line i drew.

by larry on Oct 5, 2009 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

yep

but is leyland one to school the players on drinking after games?

i'm alex rios' last fan

by onlysoxfaninboston on Oct 5, 2009 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

You want someone with experience, so, yes.

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by winningugly on Oct 5, 2009 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well

The elements are there (power and control)… I didn’t read the story which is my bad. It does sound like he needs to address it before it escalates. The word “brawl” threw me off.

Also its doubtful its the first time its happened..

by 815Sox on Oct 6, 2009 8:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs