SBN Baseball Blogger Awards: AL Cy Young
Continuing the SBN Baseball Blogger Awards
| Rk | Player | Team | 1st | 2nd | 3rd | Pts |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Zack Greinke | Kansas City Royals | 28 | 1 | - | 143 |
| 2 | Felix Hernandez | Seattle Mariners | - | 17 | 6 | 57 |
| 3 | Justin Verlander | Detroit Tigers | - | 8 | 9 | 33 |
| 4 | Roy Halladay | Toronto Blue Jays | 1 | 2 | 11 | 22 |
| 5 | CC Sabathia | New York Yankees | - | 1 | 2 | 5 |
| 6 | Jon Lester | Boston Red Sox | - | - | 1 | 1 |
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CC 5th?
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
by winningugly on Nov 11, 2009 12:54 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Plus he pitched in a cigar box-sized park.
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
by winningugly on Nov 11, 2009 1:06 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Just surprised he was not voted higher.
Lots of intangibles – new, unforgiving city, expectations through the roof, toughest division in baseball, and he performed quite up to expectation. Thought he might be ahead of Halladay, though am not complaining.
Steve Forbes is about to talk. Must listen.
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
by winningugly on Nov 11, 2009 1:04 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Shhhh.
Calling current admin. “Neo-socialists”. Though also says Bush/Fed effed up.
And it’s flat TAX.
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
by winningugly on Nov 11, 2009 1:15 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Who took Cheat's vote? Thought he didn't want it.
by homesickalien on Nov 11, 2009 1:05 PM CST up reply actions
CHESSFU
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
by winningugly on Nov 11, 2009 1:13 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Platinum Membership. Or maybe Sapphire?
"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "
I could vote in these anyway, it's easy
go on fangraphs, filter by position, find out who has the highest WAR, bingo there’s the winner
FIP
It exists.
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
by winningugly on Nov 11, 2009 1:09 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Feline infectious peritonitis (FIP) is a fatal, incurable disease that affects cats.
wouldn’t want Stan to get a dose of that
standard vaccination in kittens round here
" Do you guys know people like you are the reason I wouldn’t come on for exstended periods of time. You rui the baseball blogging expieriance."
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT
and they didn't vaccinate him at that time?
" Do you guys know people like you are the reason I wouldn’t come on for exstended periods of time. You rui the baseball blogging expieriance."
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT
he got a multiple jab
don’t know if FIP was included, these kind of diseases get old and weak cats and he is neither
it usually is included in the multi
" Do you guys know people like you are the reason I wouldn’t come on for exstended periods of time. You rui the baseball blogging expieriance."
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT
Fielding Independent Pitching, a measure of all those things for which a pitcher is specifically responsible. The formula is (HR*13+(BB+HBP-IBB)3-K2)/IP, plus a league-specific factor (usually around 3.2) to round out the number to an equivalent ERA number. FIP helps you understand how well a pitcher pitched, regardless of how well his fielders fielded. FIP was invented by Tangotiger.
"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "
probably wouldn't use it for position players, either,
for the purpose we’re discussing here. WAR is a useful tool for coming up with an approximation of the value of a player. but it’s not like WAR or any other single statistic encompasses everything. and WAR for pitchers is based on FIP which everyone acknowledges has some issues.
i should clarify
that i mean just going to fangraphs and using their WAR data, which is based on FIP. you can, of course, calculate WAR with other inputs. if you want to see how different things can be for a pitcher based upon which inputs you use, see this:
http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2009/10/28/1104776/ricky-nolasco-4-war-or-1-war
same six players are top six in WAR
just a different order – didn’t realise that Gavin was in position 8, he had a great year.
wonderful.
perhaps, however, there is something(s) that isn’t being counted that one pitcher is good at and another isn’t that would change things. pitcher defense certainly isn’t included. or you think verlander feasted on al central competition. or mr. social anxiety benefited from playing for a shite team that was not competitive. or you disagree entirely with basic assumptions that fangraphs – or whoever – is using to calculate WAR.
Point taken.
You forgot Halladay being dangled as trade bait mid-year.
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
by winningugly on Nov 11, 2009 2:04 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Someday you should write a column
somwhere sharing your opinions.
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
by winningugly on Nov 11, 2009 2:14 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
people have written columns about this.
there’s one at the hardball times either today or yesterday about this. isn’t exactly groundbreaking.
You misinterpret.
I know where to get those opinions. I meant a place where you could list everything you remember from this past year.
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
by winningugly on Nov 11, 2009 2:56 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
what WU is trying to say is he sees a money making opportunity
and he wants in.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Nov 11, 2009 3:02 PM CST up reply actions
Mr Social Anxiety playing for a shite, non-competitive team only solidifies my vote for him.
by homesickalien on Nov 11, 2009 2:22 PM CST up reply actions
Pff, if he had won 30 games with the Yankees no way he gets the Cy Young
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Hell Yesss
by Grinder Rule #42 on Nov 13, 2009 12:22 PM CST up reply actions
Felix is a pretty close second
you should know that, seattle.
"I like my DH like I like my women. Fat , slow and full of power."
by soxshenanigans
So is Jesus. Ask rhythm.
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
by winningugly on Nov 11, 2009 1:30 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
a cy young pitcher is like pornography
i know it when i see it.
probably means you crapped in your diaper.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Nov 11, 2009 2:00 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Uhh...
the radio just said the Tigers have put Granderson on the market.
Your offense is only as good as your bullpen.
by defensive indifference on Nov 11, 2009 2:47 PM CST reply actions
Lead-off.
Your offense is only as good as your bullpen.
by defensive indifference on Nov 11, 2009 2:54 PM CST up reply actions
short center but that's not important
How often does Curtis swing at the first pitch?
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by Scotty Ballgame on Nov 11, 2009 2:55 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I think Dombroskisksisksi
said that he would be open to listening to offers for Granderson and other players but not per say putting him on the market looking to deal him.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Nov 11, 2009 2:54 PM CST up reply actions
I don't see a difference.
Obviously, they’re not looking to dump him like he’s Milton Bradley.
Your offense is only as good as your bullpen.
by defensive indifference on Nov 11, 2009 2:57 PM CST up reply actions
the difference is nobody has said any of this.
unnamed NL executive asked if players x, y and z would be enough and dave said no, players a and b would have to be included. and,suddenly, granderson is on the market according to unnamed NL executive.
Now you know what executives are saying to each other.
And you say it as if it’s front-page news.
Your offense is only as good as your bullpen.
by defensive indifference on Nov 11, 2009 3:08 PM CST up reply actions
Okay.
Thanks for the info expert, sourceless blog-commentor!
Your offense is only as good as your bullpen.
by defensive indifference on Nov 11, 2009 3:20 PM CST up reply actions
from the idiot Sherman that started the rumor
Granderson, who will play at 29 next year, is owed $25.75 million over the next three years and has an option in 2013. He is not a player that Detroit truly wants to trade and neither is the available Edwin Jackson, another player who will draw interest not just from the Yankees, but the Mets, too.
http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/hardball/yankees_could_deal_for_tigers_granderson_ihbBrkhw4ntvdRpbuw2iJJ
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Nov 11, 2009 3:35 PM CST up reply actions
blah blah yankees and mets can acquire any player they want blah blah just name the player and connect them with new york blah blah
this shit writes itself.
blah blah expensive contract blah blah Detroit blah KC blah blah Marlins blah blah blah may want to move
New blah York blah could afford blah blah. Trade rumor Mad Libs
Ah.
You guys are reminding me why I stopped reading the comments here.
Your offense is only as good as your bullpen.
by defensive indifference on Nov 11, 2009 3:47 PM CST up reply actions
because we find rumors from anonymous posters heard on the radio from a guy who read it on mlbtraderumors who heard it from joel sherman who heard it from an unnamed NL executive
amusing?
Trade Rumor Improv: Aaron Rowand, a team with money to burn, and the phrase "change of scenery"...
…go…
I hear the Angels are still after Konerko
Figgans?
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by UribeAuction on Nov 11, 2009 4:04 PM CST up reply actions
see, the reason you'd trade for a free agent to be is that you'd have exclusive rights to negotiate with them
it makes sense.
... and The Market would own Konerko's contract.
The Government could use Konerko in any way Obama chooses. I suggest health care.
Ha! We’ve scooped Joel Sherman!
Paul Konerko death panel?
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by UribeAuction on Nov 11, 2009 4:25 PM CST up reply actions
Too much defensive; needs more indifference.
by homesickalien on Nov 11, 2009 4:27 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
Don't personalize, DI. Explain.
What are you looking for?
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
Shut the fuck up and go pay 100 million for Holliday.
The 2009 White Sox....like a 40 degree day.
by Ozzie Montana on Nov 11, 2009 3:40 PM CST up reply actions
Holliday=Yanks, Halladay=Mets.
The 2009 White Sox....like a 40 degree day.
by Ozzie Montana on Nov 11, 2009 4:14 PM CST up reply actions
No - today was a federal Holiday.
OM is not from this country. Or at least doesn’t know from Hollidays.
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
said much better than I could have written
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Nov 11, 2009 3:11 PM CST up reply actions
"Best Pitcher in all of Kansas City"
Guess the Onion doesn’t pay much attention to baseball :(
The world needs the Jedi now more than ever
This would be fun to watch again
The Royals are committed to Alex Gordon as their third baseman despite acquiring Josh Fields, according to Ken Rosenthal and Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports. Fields instead could play left field in the event David DeJesus is traded. DeJesus’ name popped up in our left field trade market post.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
The thump you just hear
is every ex-Sox player that attended Fantasy Camp in 2008 hitting the floor after exploding in laughter at the prospect of Fields in LF. Even Razor would (did) join in.
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
doesn't grienke have the least number of wins from that bunch, wtf?
i'm alex rios' last fan
by onlysoxfaninboston on Nov 11, 2009 4:19 PM CST reply actions
are you the ass that voted for grienke ;)
i'm alex rios' last fan
by onlysoxfaninboston on Nov 11, 2009 4:24 PM CST up reply actions
whoosh, not even close that grienke should be the cy young this year
i'm alex rios' last fan
by onlysoxfaninboston on Nov 11, 2009 4:30 PM CST up reply actions
Whoosh yourself. Obviously you were being a dildo. As was I, by pointing out that the only guy on this list who actually had less wins than ZG, was the guy who only got one 3rd-place vote in this whole thing.
by homesickalien on Nov 11, 2009 4:35 PM CST up reply actions
jeez, come on
of course everyone knows osfib wasn’t serious. ERA is the only thing that matters. duh.
the suck is not just a river in ireland.
i'll never be one to whoosh you again hsa
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by onlysoxfaninboston on Nov 11, 2009 5:22 PM CST up reply actions
...she said with a wink and a smile.
Reporter: I was wondering if at any point in my lifetime the Cubs weren't going to be run by a guy who didn't immediately remind me of failure, confusion, or imminent death
Daley and the boys are still working their magic for 2016
Don’t count Chicago out yet! You know we sent some Outfit guys down there to pull the plug..
http://cbs2chicago.com/sports/brazil.blackout.olympics.2.1306202.html
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
And in the meantime, the second big convention pulled out of Chicago this week.
Brazil, Chicago, gangs, corruption, etc.
What’s the dif?
"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "
by Chiburb on Nov 11, 2009 4:49 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
And in the meantime, the second big convention pulled out of Chicago this week.
Brazil, Chicago, gangs, corruption, etc.
What’s the dif?
"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "
by Chiburb on Nov 11, 2009 4:49 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
double time
Ugh that season completely sucked but i have so many other things to look forward to. GO BLACKHAWKS! GO BEARS! 2010 WHITE SOX!
by pierzynskirules on Nov 11, 2009 4:51 PM CST up reply actions
alexei!!!!????
YES! YES! YES! YES! YES!
Blasting one into a Christmas ham like her is so passe. - RWShow
just thought id pop back in for a quick second.
id take granderson and his salary.
Blasting one into a Christmas ham like her is so passe. - RWShow
some guy on the radio just said obama is trying to steal my kids and put them in a communistic education camp.
i don’t have any kids – what does this mean? anyone heard anything?
not sure.
but I’ll keep this information in my head, just in case I’m on the radio and I run out of words to say .
thats what 67wmaq does...
"I like my DH like I like my women. Fat , slow and full of power."
by soxshenanigans
also you da man.
"I like my DH like I like my women. Fat , slow and full of power."
by soxshenanigans
news of the world reporting
wayne rooney to barca for 85 million pounds. care to comment?
the suck is not just a river in ireland.
blah blah spanish clubs have more money blah blah every player wants to play in spain blah blah spanish women are hot blah blah roonaldo blah blah united have too much debt blah blah fuck the glazers blah blah
blah soccer blah is blah gay blah
blah America is the center of the world blah
The world needs the Jedi now more than ever
This looks like a close-up of Jonestown after the Kool-Aid.
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
Yes. Your wife IS pregnant and will tell you soon.
The rest happens after that.
"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "
by Chiburb on Nov 11, 2009 4:52 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
chi is black?
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by onlysoxfaninboston on Nov 11, 2009 5:23 PM CST up reply actions
Look at HSA.
Sista if I’ve ever seen one.
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
Limbaugh?
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
by winningugly on Nov 11, 2009 5:10 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
This is so perfect.
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2009/11/royals-expected-to-sign-betemit.html
I hope they think he’s a shortstop.
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For free?
Shit, he’s at the point where he should be paying teams to let him play.
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by UribeAuction on Nov 11, 2009 6:21 PM CST up reply actions
Now there's an idea..
I wonder how much I’d have to pay the Royals or Pirates to be their 25th man.
by Grinder in Training on Nov 11, 2009 7:17 PM CST up reply actions
I think Beyond the Box Score or somethign did a post on what would happen if a normal guy played
in relation to WAR…but let’s say you’re a -5 win player. That’d mean, theoretically, you’d have to pay about $20 million to your team to play.
Actually, that seems like an awesome publicity stunt to get some low-budget teams some money. Pay $20 million, ride the bench for a MLB team for a year.
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by UribeAuction on Nov 11, 2009 7:23 PM CST up reply actions
*Ride the bench and play in 30 or so games.
Maybe that’d be enough to hit -5 WAR given how awful your defense would be and that you probably wouldn’t get on base except for when you get hit by a pitch.
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by UribeAuction on Nov 11, 2009 7:32 PM CST up reply actions
Why is it assumed I can't catch or throw?
If I was in the outfield I’d be alright. My hitting though I’m certain would be atrocious at the major league level, or the minor league level for that matter. That’s where the 20 million comes in.
by Grinder in Training on Nov 11, 2009 7:46 PM CST up reply actions
Arm strength?
Plus, unless you played OF past high school, your range probably isn’t great.
Just playing devil’s advocate, GiT. Not trying to call you a bad athlete or anything.
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by UribeAuction on Nov 11, 2009 7:52 PM CST up reply actions
I would have range better than someone like Rob Mackowiak or Pat Burrell, an arm better than guys like Damon and Pierre
and the ability to read flies near the level of Pablo Ozuna, which is probably more important than both of those things. So pretty bad, all things considered.
by Daniel Berlyn on Nov 11, 2009 7:57 PM CST up reply actions
My thoughts exactly..
I’ve seen some god awful outfielders before, and I feel like I can at least do that, coming off the bench in the 8th and 9th inning in blow out games. I can’t see my hurting the team that much, 20 million should get it done.
by Grinder in Training on Nov 11, 2009 8:03 PM CST up reply actions
If the manager let me in during a perfect game
I’d pay to be traded.
by Grinder in Training on Nov 12, 2009 8:16 AM CST up reply actions
If I was an heir to a wealthy family or someother 25 year old with millions to waste.
I’d drop that kind of cash to do it. Although since I would only come off the bench I’d probably have to pay less, since I wouldn’t effect the outcome of many games. Guess it’s time to start playing the lottery.
by Grinder in Training on Nov 11, 2009 7:42 PM CST up reply actions
start in the fantasy camps.
If you dominate the 50 year old’s there, give it a shot.
piss up a rope fuckstick ...................by hoodlight
I'll bury the mofo and kill his dreams.
Just like I’ve done to all my ex-wives. I have the track record, GIT, you POS. And I know how to drink and drive. So you are toast before you start. ;)
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
I think getting the millions of dollars will be my problem
Crushing an OPOS like WU shouldn’t be an issue. Although if he hits me with his car while drunk driving to prove his point I may be in trouble.
by Grinder in Training on Nov 12, 2009 8:19 AM CST up reply actions

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