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Bless you, Cheat.

As for Thome, why not at the right price? Before ya know it, we’ll have eight guys rotating through the DH position, but I would have to think that Big Jim would come at a relatively small cost. And am I a sap for saying that I’d like to see him involved with the organization for years to come?

by palehose67 on Nov 13, 2009 2:00 PM CST reply actions  

no

id rather have a 24 year old (human years) dog that has advanced parkinson’s batting for our team than vlad.

-BoeJouma

by blackoutsox on Nov 13, 2009 5:07 PM CST up reply actions  

sure he is.

he brings the same amount of PR that Thome would bring because of his history, plus his bat is good when he’s been healthy, which he has a good chance of staying with Herm. Also Vlad gives them the flexibility of being able to make some spot starts in RF iif needed.

R.I.P. Nick Adenhart

by Jbasic89 on Nov 13, 2009 5:17 PM CST up reply actions  

He would also have head to toe swinging, and frankly, I think he will be too much for us at DH

especially after Teahen, but if something changes (Jenks) then we’ll see

id rather have a 24 year old (human years) dog that has advanced parkinson’s batting for our team than vlad.

-BoeJouma

by blackoutsox on Nov 13, 2009 5:28 PM CST up reply actions  

B.A.D.

Green and Gold / Black and White

by OznCoop on Nov 13, 2009 6:24 PM CST up reply actions  

/barfs

If the woman is offering an opinion, you are doing it wrong. - HSA

by BoeJouma on Nov 13, 2009 11:54 PM CST up reply actions  

I'd prefer Nick Johnson, but if the Sox could get Thome for something like $3M that'd be fine

Honestly, if Thome is willing to come super-cheap I think he’s the best fit for the Sox given the payroll. He gives them some lefty pop and OBP and it seems likely he would still be productive next (especially if they could platoon him a little).

If they fill the DH hole with something adequate at a very cheap price, they might be able to find room for a legit corner OF. As much as I dislike Teahen, if KW can fill the OF and DH slots with guys who will OPS over .800 I think the Sox can be a decent team next season.

by hitlesswonder on Nov 13, 2009 2:07 PM CST reply actions  

plus he has some major 2009 postseason experience!

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Nov 13, 2009 3:48 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree.

But, after the Teahen thing, do they still consider him? At least Vladdy gives power and can play the outfield…..you don’t necessarily need another player. But, yeah, if we can get Johnson reasonably he can DH and play some first. And bat lead-off.

by dantesox on Nov 13, 2009 4:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Thome would be fine, but so would a lot of guys

Whatever they choose, I hope they wait a little while

His name is Rios and he dances on the sand

by Nordhagen on Nov 13, 2009 2:31 PM CST reply actions  

It's time for going in a different direction. Pass

Though I guess as others have said, if he’s all we can afford and improve in other areas, I guess I could live with it. Nord is right though, this shouldn’t happen for a long time.

by Q!'s Qrew on Nov 13, 2009 2:41 PM CST reply actions  

Why Thome would be good:

.882 OPS
.531 slg % at clean-up spot
.02 behind A-Rod in ’09
He murders sliders.

Its not all roses and sunshine however.
His win shares have been dropping every year. He is getting up there in years, more fastballs are getting by him and more curves and change ups have been fooling him, so hes not a perfect solution but he is probably one of the more affordable options that can out perform the contract.

"I like my DH like I like my women. Fat , slow and full of power."
by soxshenanigans

by e-gus on Nov 13, 2009 3:04 PM CST reply actions  

"getting up there"

is an understatement, he is ancient compared to most

by 815Sox on Nov 14, 2009 1:09 AM CST up reply actions  

I want Thome back

He wants to be here and I think that’s sweet

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by billyok on Nov 13, 2009 3:29 PM CST reply actions  

No thanks

It was fun while it lasted, but enough with the retreads. We need fresh meat!!

by soxrule!35 on Nov 13, 2009 3:33 PM CST reply actions  

We need fresh meat bikinis
  • fixed

"you should go back to your cowardly practice of offering no opinion of your own."
-picktoclick

by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 13, 2009 7:50 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

I wake up in cold sweats

when i think about Paulie and Thome batting back to back again. please for the love of god thome dont come back!

Throw all the money in the world at this hank blaylock guy (prob didnt get his name right)

YOU CAN PUT IT ON THE BOARD YES!
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by Czheck on Nov 13, 2009 4:02 PM CST reply actions  

oh yeah. hank blalock.

career OPS+ of 102. played in 123, 58 and 65 games the past three seasons. that’s worth all the money in the world.

by larry on Nov 13, 2009 4:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Was going to say that Jimmy would be good on the cheap as DH vs righties

and Q against lefties. Upon further review, Q blows against lefties. Interesting, Discuss.

by Shakey on Nov 13, 2009 4:41 PM CST reply actions  

nuff said

piss up a rope fuckstick ...................by hoodlight

by mick10 on Nov 13, 2009 6:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Trade Q for Granderson - problem solved

"ass hole thi is the same line up whit leftys you idiot"

by Brush Back on Nov 13, 2009 7:20 PM CST up reply actions  

no no no, Q! is slugging over .500 next year!

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by The Wizard on Nov 15, 2009 7:39 PM CST up reply actions  

it's one of my favorite secrets about Q!

he likes many things that we like…but he also has reverse platoon splits.

2009 is just 2007 in 2008's clothing. - Trooper

by colintj on Nov 14, 2009 6:01 PM CST up reply actions  

do you feel fullfilled?

id rather have a 24 year old (human years) dog that has advanced parkinson’s batting for our team than vlad.

-BoeJouma

by blackoutsox on Nov 13, 2009 5:09 PM CST up reply actions  

wow you post made me check my comments

and i had no idea i was over 5000….

R.I.P. Nick Adenhart

by Jbasic89 on Nov 13, 2009 5:20 PM CST up reply actions  

oh wow, Im at 1200

when did that happen?

id rather have a 24 year old (human years) dog that has advanced parkinson’s batting for our team than vlad.

-BoeJouma

by blackoutsox on Nov 13, 2009 5:30 PM CST up reply actions  

I was robbed of my identity when the format changed so Im sure Im over 5000.

18 FanPosts

3 FanShots

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"I like my DH like I like my women. Fat , slow and full of power."
by soxshenanigans

by e-gus on Nov 13, 2009 5:48 PM CST up reply actions  

you lead in words

piss up a rope fuckstick ...................by hoodlight

by mick10 on Nov 13, 2009 6:31 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

speaking of which

whens the next 20 paragraph article? I need to set aside time to read it

id rather have a 24 year old (human years) dog that has advanced parkinson’s batting for our team than vlad.

-BoeJouma

by blackoutsox on Nov 13, 2009 9:23 PM CST up reply actions  

dude I have been asking for it for sometime now

I guess Getz leaving didn’t move her heart much … maybe if Thome resigns we will get a nice piece on trees and beautiful Seattle landscapes.

Lupe, release the balloons!

by LT_sox_fan on Nov 13, 2009 9:54 PM CST up reply actions  

I just discovered my legacy on this site with HSA's unwitting help:

“Fuckstick”. The first 14 of a total of 120 SSS uses were mine. I can die in peace now. You fucksticks.

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Nov 13, 2009 8:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Piker.

Use two hands.

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Nov 13, 2009 8:15 PM CST up reply actions  

this is the 2790th of my posts....

and every one of them was more exciting than this one.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Nov 13, 2009 6:59 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

my 1000th was yesterday

in about the same timeframe. Are you me?

His name is Rios and he dances on the sand

by Nordhagen on Nov 13, 2009 11:15 PM CST up reply actions  

2583

All of them worthless.

Reporter: I was wondering if at any point in my lifetime the Cubs weren't going to be run by a guy who didn't immediately remind me of failure, confusion, or imminent death

by Hazymania on Nov 13, 2009 11:44 PM CST up reply actions  

reasonable...

Teahen
Beckham
Konerko
Thome
Quentin
Rios
Pierzynski
Byrd?
Che

by Andronicus on Nov 13, 2009 5:26 PM CST reply actions  

are you Still high on Marlyn "Texas Exageration Stadium" Byrd?

for real? After the stats even out at a different stadium he will only be a small step up from an already BaD option in Mark Teahen or Jordon Danks. Please get over the Byrd infatuation. Thank you.

Green and Gold / Black and White

by OznCoop on Nov 13, 2009 6:27 PM CST up reply actions  

so much sic

" Do you guys know people like you are the reason I wouldn’t come on for exstended periods of time. You rui the baseball blogging expieriance."
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT

by U-God on Nov 13, 2009 6:32 PM CST up reply actions  

(sic) =?

sorry Im kinda behind the times on internet abriviations.

Green and Gold / Black and White

by OznCoop on Nov 13, 2009 6:37 PM CST up reply actions  

don't even bother with u-god

he lives in his own fantasy world, where only he knows what he is talking about.

"you should go back to your cowardly practice of offering no opinion of your own."
-picktoclick

by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 13, 2009 8:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Pearls before swine, U-G.

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Nov 13, 2009 8:16 PM CST up reply actions  

sic isn't an internet abbreviation

it is a writing term with Latin origins denoting an intentional spelling or grammatical error.

Reporter: I was wondering if at any point in my lifetime the Cubs weren't going to be run by a guy who didn't immediately remind me of failure, confusion, or imminent death

by Hazymania on Nov 13, 2009 11:46 PM CST up reply actions  

not the worst point

AVG OBP SLG OPS
.282 .336 .538 .873 HOME
.285 .322 .419 .740 AWAY

"I like my DH like I like my women. Fat , slow and full of power."
by soxshenanigans

by e-gus on Nov 13, 2009 6:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Im stil finding it hard to belive that the Sox are not going to be contenderes in the Chone Figgins sweepstakes,

K.W. says they dont have the $ room, but I get the feeling hes got somehtin up his sleeve. Maybe trading a Konerko for as a salary dump…just a thought. But the Sox have been in love with Figgins for years, you guys know that, and I’m truly of the belief that Kenny is gonna make a strong effort to lasso his guy into the Sox clubhouse.

Green and Gold / Black and White

by OznCoop on Nov 13, 2009 6:52 PM CST up reply actions  

problem with trading Konerko...

where is the power going to come from?

"you should go back to your cowardly practice of offering no opinion of your own."
-picktoclick

by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 13, 2009 8:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Bacon and TCQ

id rather have a 24 year old (human years) dog that has advanced parkinson’s batting for our team than vlad.

-BoeJouma

by blackoutsox on Nov 13, 2009 9:25 PM CST up reply actions  

didn't ask you

and wrong answer.

"you should go back to your cowardly practice of offering no opinion of your own."
-picktoclick

by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 13, 2009 9:48 PM CST up reply actions  

actually its the right answer

those two are the 3 and 4 hitters on our team for a long time in my opinion.
It may feel strange to not have vets hitting for us in those spots (it sure does for me) but we are going to have to rely on the (slightly) unproven potential for power in the young players now. No more Paulie, Thome, or Dye, time for Transition…

id rather have a 24 year old (human years) dog that has advanced parkinson’s batting for our team than vlad.

-BoeJouma

by blackoutsox on Nov 13, 2009 10:04 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

its not time for transition

its time to win the world series when you have one of the top rotations in baseball. Don’t waste it by putting together an offense that won’t score 4 runs a game.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Nov 13, 2009 10:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah same offense of Paulie, Thomer, Dye, AJ that could put up more than 4 runs

a game this past season, right? Did we watch the same team? Out with the old, in with the new. Sorry, but it is time to move on.

by Ahillock on Nov 13, 2009 11:25 PM CST up reply actions  

agree

If the woman is offering an opinion, you are doing it wrong. - HSA

by BoeJouma on Nov 14, 2009 12:02 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm not saying use the same offense.

but just relying on “unproven potential for power in young players” isn’t going to get it done. you need a few veterans…whether it is the ones from last year or ones from the free agent market doesn’t matter. You need power hitters at US Cellular field…. and you have maybe a 2 year window to get the job done. It seems that ozzie and kenny are going to go half assed again though. too bad. wasting a golden opportunity.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Nov 14, 2009 12:54 AM CST up reply actions  

Do you really need a line up of power hitters?

Or is it small ball, or Ozzie ball we need?. All that crap is marketing PR to sell teams and fill seats. You need guys that can get on base, and you need guys that can drive them in when they are on base. Regardless if its HRs or doubles or singles. (yes some stadiums are more conducive to certain attributes – but it is not an end to all)

"ass hole thi is the same line up whit leftys you idiot"

by Brush Back on Nov 14, 2009 9:21 AM CST up reply actions  

In our park, you have to mash, because everybody else is gonna come here and mash.

"I call Dotel, got his ass kick. I call Linebrink, got his ass kick. Everybody I call is the wrong guy. I guess it's my fault!"

by RWShow on Nov 14, 2009 1:18 PM CST up reply actions  

the 87 cardinals were one of my favorite teams

but they wouldn’t have worked in the Cell. Old comiskey maybe.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Nov 14, 2009 2:38 PM CST up reply actions  

you kind of misunderstood me because I wasnt clear, I agree, we need Figgins at third and move Teahen to rf

Im just saying the power is coming from Q! and Beckham. By unproven, I mean we dont know how healthy Q will be or what Bacons full potential is, though we know its quite a bit.

id rather have a 24 year old (human years) dog that has advanced parkinson’s batting for our team than vlad.

-BoeJouma

by blackoutsox on Nov 14, 2009 10:04 PM CST up reply actions  

You mean like the jaggernaut 05 team?

They scored a whole 17 more runs then this past year’s team. A healthy rotation next year in the Central division could possible put up a 660-680 RA. Field me a team that puts up 750 or more runs and I don’t give a damn if the runs come on Hrs, walks or HBP. You can talk about Paulie, Aj and the coming DH all day long. A decent line by Rios and Q the team is likely playoff bound. Those 2 struggle then a whole lot more has to happen.

"Oh well back to work"

by Tdogg on Nov 14, 2009 4:24 PM CST up reply actions  

And before anyone says it

Of course I want more than 750+ runs. They score 800 and you can print playoff tickets right now. I have at least warmed to the idea that a 28 year old Teahan may actually be telling the truth about the excitement of contending and his offensive stats for next year. He certainly can’t/won’t do any worse than what we got last year in one of the missing spots.

"Oh well back to work"

by Tdogg on Nov 14, 2009 4:36 PM CST up reply actions  

i sort of agree, mainly in that chone is, in fact, a type b free agent

moving teahen to right makes more sense that playing him at third, but while i somewhat hope we do get chone, i just dont think we will even be in conversations with him/his agent

If the woman is offering an opinion, you are doing it wrong. - HSA

by BoeJouma on Nov 14, 2009 12:02 AM CST up reply actions  

However - from what I've read (from scout reports)

3rd is his better position and he’s the type of player that needs consistancy (wrong team for that with Ozzie). I’ve only seen him play when here, and at that I barely kept notice – so got me.

"ass hole thi is the same line up whit leftys you idiot"

by Brush Back on Nov 14, 2009 9:23 AM CST up reply actions  

no.

1) I’m not ‘sold’ on anything other Byrd’s average bat and solid defense at both corner OF positions.

2) Byrd was, in fact, slightly unlucky with his BABIP: He posted a 0.315 and had an xBABIP of 0.317.

3) The Cell is more a more favorable HR park than Arlington:
http://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/files/primate_studies/discussion/home_runs_and_ballparks/

by Andronicus on Nov 13, 2009 7:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah,

if we could get him here for something like 6Mil for 2 years I’d be down for that, I just dont want him coming in here with people thinking he’s going to put up J.D. like #s

Green and Gold / Black and White

by OznCoop on Nov 13, 2009 7:14 PM CST up reply actions  

so just keep JD?

"you should go back to your cowardly practice of offering no opinion of your own."
-picktoclick

by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 13, 2009 8:04 PM CST up reply actions  

no defense

id rather have a 24 year old (human years) dog that has advanced parkinson’s batting for our team than vlad.

-BoeJouma

by blackoutsox on Nov 13, 2009 9:25 PM CST up reply actions  

no offense

but no defense.

If the woman is offering an opinion, you are doing it wrong. - HSA

by BoeJouma on Nov 14, 2009 12:03 AM CST up reply actions  

i don't think anyone's expecting jd numbers

an average to slighty abover average bat and good defense would be all i’d ask for

" Do you guys know people like you are the reason I wouldn’t come on for exstended periods of time. You rui the baseball blogging expieriance."
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT

by U-God on Nov 14, 2009 8:25 AM CST up reply actions  

Children's Home + Aid is in debt

To both Jim and Paulie… plus its nice to rub it in the face of all the Cubs fans I work with

by 815Sox on Nov 14, 2009 1:08 AM CST reply actions   1 recs

Nats drawing interest in Willingham — 2:56 p.m.

The Nationals again are drawing strong trade interest in left fielder Josh Willingham. Whether they are willing to move him is another question.

Willingham, 30, produced a career-high .863 OPS last season, hitting 24 home runs in 427 at-bats. His offense would be difficult for the Nats to replace.

The Braves, looking for a right-handed power hitter, like Willingham but harbor concerns about his defense and past back troubles. Willingham might be a better fit in the American League, where he could be used as a DH.

The Nats control Willingham for two more seasons. He earned $2.95 million last season, and his salary likely will rise to the $4.5 million to $5 million range in his second year of arbitration.

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/10357594

poor defensive outfielder with back troubles? boy, that sure sounds like a white sox target.

by larry on Nov 14, 2009 5:45 PM CST reply actions  

Please,

have mercy

Green and Gold / Black and White

by OznCoop on Nov 14, 2009 6:31 PM CST up reply actions  

i wouldn't make the mistake of evaluating quentin's defense on last season.

obviously he was hurt and his range was severely limited. he’s not a good defender but he’s not that bad. willingham and quentin are comparable defensively.

by larry on Nov 15, 2009 3:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Was he injured playing defense?

Punching a bat and having plantar fasciitis is not a result of too much time in the OF. I might agree with those that say he needs to be engaged the whole game rather than stewing in the dugout 95% of the game.

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Nov 15, 2009 4:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Willingham was absolutely on fire for a good two months

"I like my DH like I like my women. Fat , slow and full of power."
by soxshenanigans

by e-gus on Nov 15, 2009 11:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Literally on fire.

EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
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by Sox Machine on Nov 16, 2009 1:22 AM CST up reply actions  

What this thread needs is a new thread.

What a yawnfest.

"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "

by Chiburb on Nov 15, 2009 4:26 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

Be careful what you ask for

or you’ll be known as “that guy who asks for new threads”

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by billyok on Nov 15, 2009 5:51 PM CST up reply actions  

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