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White Sox Minor League Update: I just want to say one word to you - just one word.... 'prospects'.

The Arizona Fall League is winding down.  The Peoria Javelinas, for whom White Sox prospects play, have clinched their division so they'll be hosting the championship game on Saturday November 21.  The game will be live on MLB network at 1:30 pm and also will be streamed on mlb.com.

If you're looking for an easy way to follow the stats of all the winter ballas, mlb.com has created a site for each team's players.  Link to White Sox here.  As previously discussed, there isn't much outside the AFL other than Clevelan Santeliz and Jon Link (and now Jhonny Nunez).  But if you want to know how Phil Rogers favorite Stefan Gartrell or new acquisition Alejandro De Aza are doing in the Dominican Winter League, you won't be wasting a lot of time combing through various team sites.

Prospect list season is upon us.  Kevin Goldstein at Baseball Prospectus will be publishing his this week.

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i've removed him from my top ten.
Brent Morel has shot past Dayan Viciedo as the White Sox’s third baseman of the future. He’s a natural hitter, which he showed when he joined the Arizona Fall League at midseason and hit .372 in his first 12 games, including an 8-for-11 showing in three games last week.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/chi-16-rogers-whispers-nov16,0,4524518.column

by larry on Nov 15, 2009 5:26 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Nonsense. Rogers can be right once a decade.

And thanks for the links.

"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "

by Chiburb on Nov 15, 2009 6:27 PM CST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

He was touting Santeliz before the season

EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine

by Sox Machine on Nov 15, 2009 7:30 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

not just him, iirc

2009 is just 2007 in 2008's clothing. - Trooper

by colintj on Nov 15, 2009 8:24 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

A guess

Hudson 40
Flowers 50
Mitchell 100

by 3E8 on Nov 15, 2009 8:31 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

sickels on cj
He was in one game I saw but I didn’t really focus on him. Scout buzz about him was fairly positive

http://www.minorleagueball.com/2009/11/14/1157404/open-q-a-thread#25696141

by larry on Nov 16, 2009 12:21 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Eff this.

I just want to know when he’s traded for Gonzo.

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Nov 16, 2009 7:55 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

White Sox third baseman Brent Morel wasn’t originally ticketed for the AFL, but the White Sox sent him to the Peoria Javelinas when Dayan Viciedo left the league due to injury.

Morel only has one extra-base hit in 17 AFL games, but he put on an impressive power display in batting practice on Saturday. He’s also a good defensive third baseman with an above-average arm. During the minor league season, several Carolina League managers praised Morel for his solid all-around tools and approach to the game.

“Man, I can see why everybody likes him,” said Javelinas manager Kevin Bradshaw, the Tigers’ roving infield coordinator. “He can do it all. I can see him hitting for a high average, he’ll have some power and the best thing I like is, you put him at third and you hit a ground ball down there, you’re out. He’ll show you range both ways and a good arm, so he’s a fun player to watch.”

While Morel could stand to show a little more patience at the plate, he also doesn’t strike out much.

“He’s an everyday player, a solid big league player,” said a National League scout. “He has a compact swing and he connects for power. He’s got good gap power and he’s a solid line-drive type hitter that’s going to develop into a guy with better than big league average power.”

http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/prospects/?p=6963

by larry on Nov 17, 2009 10:08 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

these minor league players filed for free agency
Chicago White Sox (10)
RHP: Dylan Axelrod (Hi A), Fernando Hernandez (AAA), Kelvin Jimenez (AAA), John Van Benschoten (AAA), Ehren Wassermann (AAA)
C: Justin Knoedler (AAA)
SS: Eider Torres (AAA)
OF: David Cook (AA), Josh Kroeger (AAA), Michael Restovich (AAA)

http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/prospects/?p=6994

by larry on Nov 17, 2009 3:34 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

danks 3-6, 2 2B, BB, SB
morel 4-6, HR

santos 1.1 IP, 3 H, 1 BB, 2 K

http://mlb.mlb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?sid=l119&t=g_box&gid=2009_11_17_perwin_peswin_1

by larry on Nov 17, 2009 6:30 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

ok, get viciedo over to 1b.

this kid is our third baseman for the next 10 years.

piss up a rope fuckstick ...................by hoodlight

by mick10 on Nov 17, 2009 6:55 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Post a titty pic.

AZ pitching.

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Nov 17, 2009 6:56 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

fake, or real?

piss up a rope fuckstick ...................by hoodlight

by mick10 on Nov 17, 2009 6:57 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Um, does it matter?

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Nov 17, 2009 7:17 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

at our age, yes, it matters.

I would prefer fake, I just can’t talk her into it.

piss up a rope fuckstick ...................by hoodlight

by mick10 on Nov 17, 2009 7:35 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

I hear you, my brutha.

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Nov 17, 2009 7:50 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Was Jose Canseco pitching?

Or FNS?

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Nov 17, 2009 6:55 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!
Along with Gartrell, the White Sox could lose center fielder John Shelby III and pitchers Brian Omogrosso, Matt Long and Justin Cassel if they aren’t protected.

http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2009/11/gartrell-heads-white-sox-roster-candidates.html

friday deadline for adding players to 40 man to protect from rule 5 draft.

by larry on Nov 18, 2009 11:00 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Shelby's worth another year.

EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine

by Sox Machine on Nov 18, 2009 11:10 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

sure.

but hynick is the smack you in the fucking face obvious guy and rogers doesn’t even mention him.

by larry on Nov 18, 2009 11:15 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

hynick smacked you in the face with his what now?

2009 is just 2007 in 2008's clothing. - Trooper

by colintj on Nov 18, 2009 3:14 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

must he destroy all of my favorites?
Working on the #WhiteSox top 10 for Baseball America. C Miguel Gonzalez could be the surprise guy. Lots of respect for P Carlos Torres.

http://twitter.com/ChiTribRogers/status/5835241510

he’s only 18, phil

by larry on Nov 18, 2009 1:56 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

danks 3-5
morel 3-5, HR
cj 0-2, HBP, BB

cassell 3 IP, 3 H, 1 BB, 3 K
rasner 2 IP, 2 H, 2 BB, 1 K
bellamy 2 IP, 2 H, 0 BB, 2 K

http://mlb.mlb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?sid=l119&t=g_box&gid=2009_11_18_perwin_pddwin_1

by larry on Nov 18, 2009 4:33 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Teahan?

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Nov 18, 2009 9:01 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

White Sox outfielder Jordan Danks has been solid for the Peoria Javelinas, hitting .322/.445/.467 in 24 games. Danks is a patient hitter who can work the count well, walking 19 times in 110 plate appearances. He’s also struck out 24 times, showing some struggles against offspeed pitches and fastballs on the inner half. Though Danks is 6-foot-4, 210 pounds, some scouts question whether he’ll ever hit for much power, and he hasn’t shown much ability to pull the ball for power in the AFL. While he doesn’t have classic plus-plus speed in center field, he has shown good instincts reading fly balls off the bat, athleticism and a solid throwing arm.

“I hear he’s a center fielder, yet I’ve had to play him in right field a little bit and he’s made spectacular catches against the walls, so he’s adjusted well to the corner position,” said Javelinas manager Kevin Bradshaw, the Tigers’ roving infield coordinator. “He runs the bases very well—he gets the best leads out of anyone we have—and he’s been hitting the ball for power the other way.”

http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/prospects/?p=7052

by larry on Nov 19, 2009 12:15 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

danks 2-4, HR, BB
morel 3-4, 2B, BB
cj 1-3

santos 1 IP, 0 H, 0 BB, 2 K

http://mlb.mlb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?sid=l119&t=g_box&gid=2009_11_19_scowin_perwin_1

by larry on Nov 19, 2009 5:44 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Morel ends up leading the AFL in BA at .435

Dead last in avg is Brandon Allen at .177

piss up a rope fuckstick ...................by hoodlight

by mick10 on Nov 19, 2009 6:46 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

like the boxscores posted above the comment?

piss up a rope fuckstick ...................by hoodlight

by mick10 on Nov 19, 2009 7:28 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

Tu-che.

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Nov 19, 2009 7:54 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Too bad Pena does not lead the AFL in saves.

Win, win.

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Nov 19, 2009 7:07 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

and led the league in walks.

boy, what to make of all these different statistics in a small sample size.

by larry on Nov 22, 2009 12:09 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

He's the black Rob Deer.

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Nov 22, 2009 1:10 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

it is what it is

piss up a rope fuckstick ...................by hoodlight

by mick10 on Nov 22, 2009 1:11 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

not a born winner

See, this is what happens when the Sox bunt.
Discord is sown. Brother fights brother. Misunderstandings abound.

-TAEG

by blackoutsox on Nov 19, 2009 10:10 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Santos’ numbers might not stand out, but he’s touched 97 mph while pitching in the Arizona Fall League over the past month and has shown improvement

“Sergio has a plus arm, and he’s someone who is drawing attention out there,” said Kirk Champion, the White Sox Minor League pitching coordinator.

Champion also said Santos’ slider is around the plate more than when he first transitioned and he has an outstanding changeup.

http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20091120&content_id=7694506&vkey=news_cws&fext=.jsp&c_id=cws

by larry on Nov 20, 2009 2:49 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

somebody else's list
1. Tyler Flowers: If he can stay at catcher, an All-Star-level bat could be in the works. He combines good patience with the ability to hit for average and power. If he is moved to first base, which seems more and more likely, his bat may get lost in the crowd. He will be above average at best as a first baseman.
2. Dan Hudson: Hudson had a breakout campaign in 2009, but he is not a blue-chip, powerhouse pitcher. Nevertheless, he has the potential to be a No. 2 starter with his consistent low-90s fastball to go along with a strong repertoire of secondary offerings, highlighted by his potentially plus slider.
3. Brent Morel: If his bat development continues to go well, Chicago may have a very solid major league third baseman on its hands in Morel. I cannot envision his stolen base and home run numbers translating to higher levels, but he does have good speed and some power to supplement it. The key will be whether or not the rest of his offensive game takes the next step.
4. John Ely: Ely isn’t an ace in training, but he isn’t completely a smoke-and-mirrors guy either. He has a consistent low-90s fastball with good movement, supplemented by a plus change-up. He won’t miss a lot of bats, but he will keep hitters off-balance, even in the majors.
5. Jared Mitchell: In my mind, Mitchell was not a first-round talent in the 2009 draft, but Chicago saw potential in him and selected him at No. 23 overall. Until he proves me wrong, I will be skeptical of his bat. He is way too raw for a college hitter, and his power and stolen base potential are not what they are cracked up to be. He is a first-round pick, though, so he has to be on the radar screen.
6. Jordan Danks: Defensively, Danks is quickly becoming a great center fielder. His bat is not where it needs to be, however. He has a little bit of power, some decent speed and a solid approach at the plate, but his swing still has holes that need to be ironed out, causing his batting average to suffer.
7. Dayan Viciedo: The hype surrounding Viciedo was ultimately unwarranted. He still could become a solid major leaguer, but he is not a star in waiting. His approach at the plate is too undisciplined, and his power/speed combination falls short of the initial scouting reports.
8. David Holmberg: Holmberg brings a great mix of pitches to the mound, including a curveball and change-up that have the makings of plus pitches. His fastball falls flat right now, but further velocity is expected as his frame fills out. He’s the most intriguing pitching project in Chicago’s system.
9. Josh Phegley: His bat speed is lacking and littered with holes, but Phegley has a nice line-drive swing. His defense isn’t anything special, but he should stick behind the plate. If everything works out right, Phegley could be an average all-around major league catcher.
10. John Shelby: Shelby has a nice power/speed combination and some solid contact skills to back it up, but his stats don’t back up his skill set. He’s at the age where he needs to start picking it up, as his prime is quickly approaching. Overall, it’s hard to know what to make of Shelby.

http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/fantasy/article/top-10-prospects-for-2010-chicago-white-sox-and-detroit-tigers2/

by larry on Nov 20, 2009 2:51 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

who do you blame

the idiots who write this stuff or the idiots who read it?

by Hatchetm on Nov 20, 2009 3:02 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

sergio santos had second fastest fastball in AFL according to pitch f/x

i’m sure you can guess who was first.

santos: average of 95.95 mph and max of 98.8 mph.

http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/prospects/?p=7107

by larry on Nov 24, 2009 4:47 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

What are your thoughts on Brent Morel? Is he the real deal with Ventura type qualities?

Jim Callis

He’s one of the best prospects and perhaps the most underrated one in the White Sox system. Wouldn’t hang a Ventura tag on him yet, but he has that type of potential.

Jonathan (Chicago)

Jared Mitchell, is he closer to Carl Crawford or Brett Gardner?

Jim Callis
  (2:49 PM)

Carl Crawford, easily.

http://www.baseballamerica.com/online/majors/espn-chat/2009/269197.html

by larry on Nov 25, 2009 2:57 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

"Carl Crawford, easily."

But of course.

EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine

by Sox Machine on Nov 25, 2009 4:23 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Well, yes.

My unit is the ultimate Crawford divining rod, and it has the same reaction watching Mitchell pull a hammy as when Crawford goes on the DL.

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Nov 25, 2009 6:55 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

he's black, WU.

you can’t compare players of a different race. everyone knows that, except for Jonathan (Chicago).

by larry on Nov 25, 2009 7:03 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Tdogg, where are you when I need you?

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Nov 25, 2009 7:11 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

he knows that rule, too.

there’s a reason Tdogg is incomparable on this site.

by larry on Nov 25, 2009 7:16 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

F brent morel

joe crede’s high A numbers dwarf his and he was two years younger at the time. meanwhile ventura was in the majors at the same age. GMAFB. joe randa is a pretty good comp. BFD.

by Hatchetm on Nov 25, 2009 9:14 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Happy Thanksgiving.

A little early for your Grinch imitation, Hatch.

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Nov 26, 2009 11:01 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Who could?

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Nov 27, 2009 7:56 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

hofer

2009 is just 2007 in 2008's clothing. - Trooper

by colintj on Nov 28, 2009 2:02 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

mlb.com's organizational review
“That’s something we hadn’t done much of in the past,” Bell noted. “Before I got here, most of the players we took were more from the college level. But by design, we wanted to get higher-ceiling guys out of high school who we could project.”

http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20091124&content_id=7714948&vkey=news_cws&fext=.jsp&c_id=cws

by larry on Nov 26, 2009 10:05 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

interesting article on sergio santos' transition from infielder to pitcher
Although Santos, 26, is out of options and must make the Sox’s Opening Day roster or be exposed to waivers, his quick ascent is one of the more remarkable achievements in the organization.

A veteran scout for an American League team said he would have recommended his team pay $50,000 to select the 6-foot-3, 225-pound Santos in the Rule 5 draft on Dec. 10 if he had been left unprotected.

The scout said he was more impressed with Santos’ fastball and hard slider that produced 20 strikeouts in 14 2/3 innings than his 6.14 ERA for the Peoria Javelinas of the Arizona Fall League, the final test that determined Santos’ placement on the 40-man roster.

It also validated Santos’ decision to convert to the mound after failing to reach the majors as a shortstop with three organizations, even though the Diamondbacks had made him a first-round draft selection in 2002.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/chi-27-white-sox-sergio-santos-nov27,0,2752781.story

by larry on Nov 27, 2009 10:54 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

You stopped one sentence short:
“I went through every avenue,” Santos said. “A higher power was telling me this was not the direction to go toward.”

Somewhere, Josh Fields smiles. 40 Man Holy Roller Quota maintained!

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Nov 27, 2009 10:57 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

buddy bell tells phil rogers to settle down on the hyping phil's favorite 'prospects'
He struggled really badly the first two or three months this season and was terrific the last two months," White Sox farm director Buddy Bell said. “That’s a great sign. But I don’t think we want to drop Omar Vizquel (comparisons) on him just yet.”

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/chi-29-rogers-inside-baseball-nov29,0,7878474.column

by larry on Nov 28, 2009 10:03 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Oh, and 2012 is the end of the (Selig) world.

No mention of The Long Goodbye for Buddy-Boy?

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Nov 29, 2009 10:40 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

is that news?

his contract was up and he’d be 78.

by larry on Nov 29, 2009 11:15 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

It's news when it's official.

And 78 isn’t old. Look at Robert Byrd’s or Ted Stevens’ Senate tenures.

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Nov 30, 2009 9:10 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Look, I'm not looking here until fucking March.

Do you hear me?

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Dec 3, 2009 5:19 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

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