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First time I've heard of a pitcher using advanced statistics to influencing pitching strategy.

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brian bannister was getting some coverage about this topic early 2008 season i think

not surprised his approach is rubbing off on his teammates

i'm alex rios' last fan

by onlysoxfaninboston on Nov 18, 2009 9:02 AM CST reply actions  

Good for him.

I don’t know why, but statements like this:
"I haven’t really gotten a whole lot of attention from people, which has been nice," Greinke said. "I hope it doesn’t get that way, where everybody’s like, ‘Oh, hey, Zack, hi,’ and they talk to me a bunch."

make me like him a whole lot more. He is uncomfortable with fame, he says he’s uncomfortable, and, um, could you all just leave him alone. He is the anti-FNS.

by Pander on Nov 18, 2009 9:46 AM CST reply actions  

Neyer:

"That’s pretty much how I pitch, to try to keep my FIP as low as possible," Greinke said.

Not many pitchers think that way. But then, Greinke, 26, is not like other pitchers.

No, he’s not. He’s probably the first supremely talented pitcher to believe that nerds like me — or rather, truly brilliant nerds like Bill James and Voros McCracken and Tom Tango — might actually have something to teach a supremely talented pitcher.

It’s actually happening, right now, and we’re here to enjoy it.

http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/post/_/id/1447/greinke-learns-from-the-nerds

"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "

by Chiburb on Nov 18, 2009 9:54 AM CST reply actions  

I'm Rob Neyer, and (after done blowing myself)

I approve of this message.

FRN.

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Nov 18, 2009 9:56 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Funniest comment after Neyer's piece:

This is irrelevant because neither Greinke or Bannister has ever played the game choosing instead to spend time in their mothers’ basement.

"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "

by Chiburb on Nov 18, 2009 10:00 AM CST up reply actions  

Excellent.

I can’t open it because of CHINA not alowing ESPN access, so that is good info. Thanks.

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Nov 18, 2009 10:02 AM CST up reply actions  

how do you of all people not have access to a maushaus site?

These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.

by thatshortkid on Nov 18, 2009 3:55 PM CST up reply actions  

They shut it down because too many people spent too much time on it

away from work. If SSS ever gets off the ground and goes global I’m screwed.

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Nov 18, 2009 4:20 PM CST up reply actions  

mobile phone?

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
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by The Wizard on Nov 19, 2009 8:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Great idea!

TY.

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Nov 20, 2009 8:06 AM CST up reply actions  

In Orlando, eh?

I might have to congratulate them in person…Miss Daytona Beach, Dallas Cowboy cheerleader. Wonder if she is related to Matt Kuchar, pro golfer from this area. Bet the paparrazzi are flocking here now. Just what Zack Attack needs – more gawkers.

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Nov 18, 2009 10:22 AM CST up reply actions  

I thought this was golden:

Greinke…at 22…abruptly left baseball and received a diagnosis of depression and social anxiety disorder.

Greinke rarely talks publicly about his ordeal. When asked Tuesday if he could be a positive example for people dealing with similar issues, he gave an unflinching response. Greinke said he was not interested in being a spokesman or a role model.

"So even if I am looked at that way, I still don’t do anything about it, because I’m real uncomfortable doing stuff like that," he said.

This is awesome, asking someone with a social aniexty disorder if they’d like to be a spokesman. Nice job, whomever asked that question, you just won douche of the week!

FUCK EVYTHING BACON RULZ WEER GONNA WIN TEH CHAMPSHIOP
...colintj, Nov8, 2009

by rhythm on Nov 18, 2009 11:42 AM CST reply actions   1 recs

He ain't THAT shy.

He was just at the Magic game last night with his fiancee – though I can’t find it online, I saw it in the “newspaper” (back, white, and read all over) this AM. maybe he’s coming out a bit.

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Nov 19, 2009 2:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Don't tell CTJ.

"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "

by Chiburb on Nov 20, 2009 6:36 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Now this is actually fascinating.

Greinke is pitching with his stats in mind:

With Zack Greinke, we have a pitcher discussing Defense Independent Pitching Statistics with the press following the announcement of his 2009 Cy Young Award. That’s a whole different animal.
However, what has not really been discussed much since he said that is whether what he describes is a good idea. It is smart for general managers to look at FIP or xFIP or QERA, etc., when determining which pitchers are likely to improve or regress in the coming year, but it is quite different to say that an individual making in-game baseball decisions should minimize his FIP.
I am not suggesting that Greinke does this—to the contrary, he reported throwing more fly balls to allow David DeJesus to prevent runs (thanks to his good Zone Rating),
thus lowering his ERA but not his xFIP or his QERA, which look at ground-ball and fly-ball rates, rather than home runs like FIP does. He also discussed avoiding walks and seeking strikeouts in his characterization of minimizing FIP, too. However, I thought it would be important to consider the difference between minimizing FIP and minimizing ERA.

He throws more fly balls because of DeJesus’ UZR? This is amazing. Are we really getting to the point where players are more cognizant of stats to where it is affecting how they pitch/hit/position themselves? Pretty cool.

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=9791

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Nov 23, 2009 1:16 PM CST reply actions  

i remember some comment in 06 that ozzie or maybe coop made about freddy or contreras

after mack had an especially poor day in center that led to many runs (i think jose vs royals in fact), one of them said it wouldn’t be so bad if he would throw more ground balls, probably half-joking. maybe greinke heard it and the light bulb went off.

by Trooper on Nov 28, 2009 8:14 AM CST up reply actions  

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