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Over the past couple days, and inspired by the infamous U.S.S. Mariner post and the on-going reader input over at Sox Machine, I've been putting together my off-season plan.  I tried to keep it as realistic as possible (no video game trades), especially in terms of payroll.  Feel encouraged to leave your own roster plans in the comments section.  U-God's 2010 plan lies after the jump.

Star-divide

Free Agent Acquistions:

DH- Nick Johnson, 1 year/5.5 mil

I love Jim Thome and always will.  He is my back-up plan.  With that being said, I would be thrilled if KW went out and got Nick Johnson.  The 31 year old lefty has a career .849 OPS fueled largely by his .402 career OBP.  Johnson also allows us to rotate Paul Konerko and Carlos Quentin in at DH as well.  He does come with injury-risks, but using him mainly as a DH in combination with one of the premier medical staffs in baseball should counteract that.  The injury risk combined with the down market should allow the Sox to grab him at a reasonable price for a year.

RF- Marlon Byrd, 1 year/4.5 mil

Byrd would be a very refreshing change of pace out in rightfield.  He has posted an OPS above .800 each year since joining the American League and has been an above-average defender in right as well.  His career high 20 homers last year will guarentee him a raise, though probably a modest one.  Byrd also provides a nice stop-gap for our outfield prospects.

C- Brian Schneider, 1 year/1.5 mil

Schneider's days as a starter are over.  He's a lefty-catcher who has had good success stopping opponent's run games (38 CS%).  Being a backup drops his price tag and lowers his risk of getting hurt again.

1B/OF- Mark Kotsay, 1 year/1.5 mil

Bring him back.  He was good after we traded for him and gives Ozzie more flexibility with his bench and lineups.

Contract Extension:

Offer John Danks the Jon Lester deal (5 years/30 mil).  It's a back-loaded contract that buys out John's arbitration years and allows him to hit free agency at age 31.  It may take more money to lock him up, but for simplicity's sake, I'm just going to use the Lester deal.

Batting Order:

DH- Nick Johnson, 3B- Gordon Beckham, LF- Carlos Quentin, 1B- Paul Konerko, C- A.J. Pierzynski, CF- Alex Rios, RF- Marlon Byrd, SS- Alexei Ramirez, 2B- Chris Getz

That OBP in front of Beckham gives me dirty thoughts.

Bench:

C- Brian Schneider, 1B/OF- Mark Kotsay, UTIL- Jayson Nix, OF- Alejandro De Aza

Nix gives pop off the bench and De Aza gives Ozzie a speedy pinch-runner for late in the game.

Starting Rotation:

Jake Peavy-RHP, Mark Buehrle-LHP, Gavin Floyd-RHP, John Danks-LHP, Freddy Garcia-RHP

I like the idea of having Peavy and Garcia pitch back to back.

Bullpen:

Bobby Jenks-CL, Matt Thornton-LHP, Scott Linebrink-RHP, DJ Carrasco-RHP, Tony Peña-RHP, Jhonny Nuñez-RHP, Randy Williams-LHP

I wanted to trade Jenks, but his value is too low right now and I don't want a repeat of the Nick Swisher trade.

Other Costs:

$1 mil buy-out for Jermaine Dye

$.35 mil for Mike MacDougal, damn him

Team Payroll:

$96.65 mil, only .55 higher than last season's opening salary.  All figures (except my FAs and arbitration guesstimates) taken from Cot's Baseball Contracts.

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I think Byrd would be worth at least twice that

he’s got to be seen as at least a two win player, right?

2009 is just 2007 in 2008's clothing. - Trooper

by colintj on Nov 3, 2009 11:33 PM CST reply actions  

yeah

i prolly low-balled

" Do you guys know people like you are the reason I wouldn’t come on for exstended periods of time. You rui the baseball blogging expieriance."
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT

by U-God on Nov 3, 2009 11:41 PM CST up reply actions  

it's ok, they're going to build a shenanigans outside of the cell. spend a little.

These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.

by thatshortkid on Nov 4, 2009 12:01 AM CST up reply actions   2 recs

LOL hahahha

yeah, that new entertainment complex will be awesome. hsa will finally have a place to get wasted and act like a slut

Lupe, release the balloons!

by LT_sox_fan on Nov 4, 2009 10:38 AM CST up reply actions  

I swear to God

I’m going to pistol whip the next person who posts shenanigans

i'm celebrating the slaughter of the indigenous peoples of the western hemisphere.
what the fuck are you doing? - larry

by Scotty Ballgame on Nov 4, 2009 10:49 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

you remember that martin character?

Shenay-nay

"Ninety percent I'll spend on good times, women, and Irish whiskey.
The other ten percent I'll probably waste."
- Phillies pitcher Tug McGraw, on his plans for his $75,000 salary

by e-gus on Nov 4, 2009 10:53 AM CST up reply actions  

Shenay-nay SHENANIGANS!

"Ninety percent I'll spend on good times, women, and Irish whiskey.
The other ten percent I'll probably waste."
- Phillies pitcher Tug McGraw, on his plans for his $75,000 salary

by e-gus on Nov 4, 2009 10:53 AM CST up reply actions  

I'd say two years, $10 million is fair for him

Not sure he’ll be a centerfielder going forward, though, which diminishes his value. His success in ’08 seems to be more an aberration caused more by an outlier BB/K than anything else, too.

Chicago White Sox Examiner — I wish I could cuss right now.

by UribeAuction on Nov 4, 2009 1:03 AM CST up reply actions  

Interesting

Nick Johnson leading off, 2 left handed catchers, a 24 man roster and no trades?

If the world was perfect, it wouldn't be -- Yogi Berra

by mick10 on Nov 4, 2009 6:39 AM CST reply actions  

two left handed catchers?!

awesome! can’t remember seeing even one of those in a while.

the suck is not just a river in ireland.

by BuehrleMan on Nov 4, 2009 6:56 AM CST up reply actions  

I think AJ gets traded this winter.

Mostly because the Sox have a cheaper in-house solution who could play in 2010, taking a fair chunk of change off of the payroll.

by asinwreck on Nov 4, 2009 7:52 AM CST up reply actions  

NO!!!!!!!!

Ugh that season completely sucked but i have so many other things to look forward to. GO BLACKHAWKS! GO BEARS! 2010 WHITE SOX!

by pierzynskirules on Nov 4, 2009 1:43 PM CST up reply actions  

agreed

Ugh that season completely sucked but i have so many other things to look forward to. GO BLACKHAWKS! GO BEARS! 2010 WHITE SOX!

by pierzynskirules on Nov 4, 2009 7:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Schneider is an excellent backup

"Awarding a difference maker on the field - and in the community at large - has always been baseball's version of a home run." ~Stephen A. Smith

by Carbiner on Nov 4, 2009 11:04 AM CST up reply actions  

Daniel Hudson cannot be added to roster

since Bill James left him off projections

i'm celebrating the slaughter of the indigenous peoples of the western hemisphere.
what the fuck are you doing? - larry

by Scotty Ballgame on Nov 4, 2009 10:25 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

they always exclude the young pitchers.

It messed up my fantasy draft 2 seasons ago.

"Ninety percent I'll spend on good times, women, and Irish whiskey.
The other ten percent I'll probably waste."
- Phillies pitcher Tug McGraw, on his plans for his $75,000 salary

by e-gus on Nov 4, 2009 10:54 AM CST up reply actions  

went back and added randy williams

if we got johnson, i would love to see him leading off. it would be like when swish batted first, but better. and with the peavy and rios pickups, i didn’t see any trades fitting.

" Do you guys know people like you are the reason I wouldn’t come on for exstended periods of time. You rui the baseball blogging expieriance."
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT

by U-God on Nov 4, 2009 11:44 AM CST up reply actions  

It wouldn't be hard to be better than Swish at leadoff.

I like Nick Johnson as a pickup but I wouldn’t want my leadoff batter clogging the bases. I’d rather have someone who could score on a Beckham double or go from first to 3rd on a base hit.

If the world was perfect, it wouldn't be -- Yogi Berra

by mick10 on Nov 4, 2009 12:14 PM CST up reply actions  

i see where you're coming from

and do get your point. i just don’t like our quicker guys OBPs enough. if getz or che can get up past the .350 range, that would be fantastic and i’d be all for it.

" Do you guys know people like you are the reason I wouldn’t come on for exstended periods of time. You rui the baseball blogging expieriance."
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT

by U-God on Nov 4, 2009 12:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Sure, you'll take the team cancer

and not the mascot. “Chemistry”. It exists.

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Nov 4, 2009 12:28 PM CST up reply actions  

it sure does exist

it’s the chemistry that allowed kdub to get rid of swish…cue the dead horse

i'm alex rios' last fan

by onlysoxfaninboston on Nov 4, 2009 12:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Simma don nah!

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Nov 4, 2009 12:48 PM CST up reply actions  

nice post ugod, and the bullpen blows if liney remains #3 on the depthchart

also, could you provide the link for this infamous USS mariner post?

i'm alex rios' last fan

by onlysoxfaninboston on Nov 4, 2009 7:33 AM CST reply actions  

http://ussmariner.com/2009/10/20/daves-2010-off-season-plan/

Don’t ever question the genius of Dave Cameron, for he will make you feel stupid in the comments section.

The 2009 White Sox....like a 40 degree day.

by Ozzie Montana on Nov 4, 2009 8:44 AM CST up reply actions  

Trade Jose Lopez, Mark Lowe, and Jason Vargas to Chicago for John Danks.

uh, no thanks Dave. I do like Lopez though.

"Ninety percent I'll spend on good times, women, and Irish whiskey.
The other ten percent I'll probably waste."
- Phillies pitcher Tug McGraw, on his plans for his $75,000 salary

by e-gus on Nov 4, 2009 9:01 AM CST up reply actions  

Yarr
(and, he is intelligent… regardless of the occasional pseudo-Stalin approach to thread moderation)

Yeah, I remember when Dave kicked off thread collectivization and we killed 30% of our commentors. Tough times

"Awarding a difference maker on the field - and in the community at large - has always been baseball's version of a home run." ~Stephen A. Smith

by Carbiner on Nov 4, 2009 10:03 AM CST up reply actions  

when i imagine him running the bases

i picture his body breaking into little pieces.

the suck is not just a river in ireland.

by BuehrleMan on Nov 4, 2009 12:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Ventura-like. (Shudders.)

Or Joe Theismann-like. Or Dave Dravecky-like. Snap.

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Nov 4, 2009 12:49 PM CST up reply actions  

or maybe.....

Forrest Gump-like. Where the appliances and doo-dads that held him together come apart, and his hidden speed is unleashed.

His name is Rios and he dances on the sand

by Nordhagen on Nov 4, 2009 2:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Run, Nicky, RUN!

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Nov 4, 2009 2:56 PM CST up reply actions  

looks like we got

some ideas at least to how the roster will look. still think we should trade for lebron i was thinking tony pena for lebron

YOU CAN PUT IT ON THE BOARD YES!
www.reverbnation.com/czheckproductions

by Czheck on Nov 4, 2009 8:10 AM CST reply actions   1 recs

The Marlon Byrd idea scares me,

offensive stats are morbidly exaggerated in that Texas stadium, we certainly don’t want a Milton Bradley “ish” experiment.

Green and Gold / Black and White

by OznCoop on Nov 4, 2009 8:53 AM CST reply actions  

I thought the same think

although Byrd is ok defensively, and we all knew Bradley was crap.

Plus, Byrd would be less expensive since he didnt lead the AL in OPS last year ala Milty in 2008.

"Ninety percent I'll spend on good times, women, and Irish whiskey.
The other ten percent I'll probably waste."
- Phillies pitcher Tug McGraw, on his plans for his $75,000 salary

by e-gus on Nov 4, 2009 9:02 AM CST up reply actions  

angry man be damned

I’d take Bradley if the Cubs paid most of the salary…

"Oh well back to work"

by Tdogg on Nov 4, 2009 11:38 AM CST up reply actions  

i wouldn't want bradley

if he paid the sox a million dollars.

the suck is not just a river in ireland.

by BuehrleMan on Nov 4, 2009 12:26 PM CST up reply actions  

SSS, but I think we are split on ethnic sides here.

If I’m going to have an angry dark man I’ll take Bonds.

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Nov 4, 2009 12:30 PM CST up reply actions  

no.

the suck is not just a river in ireland.

by BuehrleMan on Nov 4, 2009 12:30 PM CST up reply actions  

I guess Im a brother then

because I think his bat would play well at the cell, and I think Ozzie could keep him in line.

"Ninety percent I'll spend on good times, women, and Irish whiskey.
The other ten percent I'll probably waste."
- Phillies pitcher Tug McGraw, on his plans for his $75,000 salary

by e-gus on Nov 4, 2009 2:41 PM CST up reply actions  

I guess Im a brother then

because I think his bat would play well at the cell, and I think Ozzie could keep him in line.

Cubs would have to pick up the majority of the tab though.

"Ninety percent I'll spend on good times, women, and Irish whiskey.
The other ten percent I'll probably waste."
- Phillies pitcher Tug McGraw, on his plans for his $75,000 salary

by e-gus on Nov 4, 2009 2:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Fuck you and your mobile posting, cracker

;)

FWIW, before last season I would have supported Bradley on the Sox. His last injury is the straw that broke this camel’s back.

...take your hobbit circle jerk to another thread
by larry on May 18, 2009 8:58 PM PDT

by rhythm on Nov 4, 2009 2:43 PM CST up reply actions  

whats a mobile posting cracker?

is that made by nabisco.

"Ninety percent I'll spend on good times, women, and Irish whiskey.
The other ten percent I'll probably waste."
- Phillies pitcher Tug McGraw, on his plans for his $75,000 salary

by e-gus on Nov 4, 2009 2:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Nope, Toyota

I thought the double post was due to mobile posting and wanted to bust your ball about it. Nothing more, nothing less.

...take your hobbit circle jerk to another thread
by larry on May 18, 2009 8:58 PM PDT

by rhythm on Nov 4, 2009 3:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Whoosh.

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Nov 4, 2009 3:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Byrd's upside seems a bit sketchy

Not comparable to the Bradley deal of course, sort of a mid-risk for middle price deal.

"Awarding a difference maker on the field - and in the community at large - has always been baseball's version of a home run." ~Stephen A. Smith

by Carbiner on Nov 4, 2009 11:03 AM CST up reply actions  

its been a loooooong time

but i have kept up with reading the site, just couldnt keep up with posting.

There’s going to be some stupid teams willing to give byrd more than 1 year, so I’m sure he’ll jump at that, and someone will probably pony up 2 years to johnson as well. I like the Idea of Kotsay coming back.

12/12/07- We'll miss you Andy Gonzalez

by The Deacon on Nov 4, 2009 9:05 AM CST reply actions  

id certainly be okay with signing johnson to a 2 year deal

Blasting one into a Christmas ham like her is so passe. - RWShow

by BoeJouma on Nov 4, 2009 12:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Has to wait in line.

Figgins/Kotchman first.

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Nov 4, 2009 10:05 AM CST up reply actions  

but

where would they play?

the suck is not just a river in ireland.

by BuehrleMan on Nov 4, 2009 10:13 AM CST up reply actions  

Where would Hudson play after the Floyd-for-Roberts trade happens?

i'm celebrating the slaughter of the indigenous peoples of the western hemisphere.
what the fuck are you doing? - larry

by Scotty Ballgame on Nov 4, 2009 10:27 AM CST via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

MAlomars.

Mmmmmm…

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Nov 4, 2009 10:30 AM CST up reply actions  

"Can't stop after just one"

i'm celebrating the slaughter of the indigenous peoples of the western hemisphere.
what the fuck are you doing? - larry

by Scotty Ballgame on Nov 4, 2009 10:39 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

jerry owens

that is all

that would involve a whole bunch of skull fucking.-BoeJouma

by furby2056 on Nov 4, 2009 10:44 AM CST reply actions   1 recs

No Pods?! ;(

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Nov 4, 2009 11:11 AM CST reply actions  

I have eagerly awaited for the end of the season

for more serious discussions like this. Nice post Ugod. I am really starting to warm up to the Nick Johnson idea.
I certainly want Kotsay back. I don’t see KW really wanting to trade AJ with such a strong staff. That said I’m scared to death Danks or Floyd gets moved (though I’d imagine the return would be nice.)

The White Sox will probably move fast this time around and try to build momentum from an excitement level to spur pre season ticket sales (imo).

"Oh well back to work"

by Tdogg on Nov 4, 2009 11:36 AM CST reply actions  

yah, as usual

great post U…

i really hope they dont trade aj but i also hope he plays with more enthusiasm in 2010. in reference to that liptak/gonzales article, i always thought aj should step up and take charge of that team and guide the young bucks…his knowledge and ability is impeccable and he needs to make himself indispensable by being the captain…konerko’s swami style like dave “killer” carlson just isnt cuttin it.

Hell Yesss

by Grinder Rule #42 on Nov 4, 2009 11:47 AM CST up reply actions  

i only see aj being shopped

if we’re well out of it by the trade deadline

" Do you guys know people like you are the reason I wouldn’t come on for exstended periods of time. You rui the baseball blogging expieriance."
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT

by U-God on Nov 4, 2009 11:47 AM CST up reply actions  

this

Blasting one into a Christmas ham like her is so passe. - RWShow

by BoeJouma on Nov 4, 2009 12:17 PM CST up reply actions  

"dont trade aj but i also hope he plays with more enthusiasm"

Maybe I’m missing something, but how does a player do that? Clap his hands after drawing a walk?
Seems if he repeated ’09 as is the Sox would be thrilled.

"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "

by Chiburb on Nov 4, 2009 12:18 PM CST up reply actions  

'Cause they're smart.

Especially when unarmed. Marichal wielded a heavy bat.

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Nov 4, 2009 12:46 PM CST up reply actions  

John Roseboro was surely enthusiastic that day.

As Marichal smacked him on the head with the bat. The guy with only a head in the picture is one Willie Mays.

I remember that day. And AJ would not allow himself to be hit with a bat. Sucker-punched, sure.

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Nov 4, 2009 12:27 PM CST up reply actions  

sigh.

untouchables. enthusiasms. bat. head.

by larry on Nov 4, 2009 12:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Hey, I don't care about your Al Capone references.

That picture is a trigger for my memory bank. Stick to influencing youngsters born before 1965.

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Nov 4, 2009 12:45 PM CST up reply actions  

OPOS' will concur:
There were no hard feelings on my part, and I thought if that was made public, people would believe that this was really over with. So I saw him at a Dodger old-timers’ game, and we posed for pictures together, and I actually visited him in the Dominican. The next year, he was in the Hall of Fame. Hey, over the years, you learn to forget things. —Johnny Roseboro (ESPN – Baseball Brawls)

I know I forget things…

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Nov 4, 2009 12:53 PM CST up reply actions  

A man become preeminent

"Awarding a difference maker on the field - and in the community at large - has always been baseball's version of a home run." ~Stephen A. Smith

by Carbiner on Nov 4, 2009 3:50 PM CST up reply actions  

yeah, i dont think ive ever seen aj NOT show enthusiasm

he shows the most emotion out of anyone on the entire team, whether a play was good or bad. the guy is the fire of the team, really.

Blasting one into a Christmas ham like her is so passe. - RWShow

by BoeJouma on Nov 4, 2009 12:22 PM CST up reply actions  

I know I clap my hands when AJ draws a walk.

If the world was perfect, it wouldn't be -- Yogi Berra

by mick10 on Nov 4, 2009 12:27 PM CST up reply actions  

yogi berra says some deep shit

Blasting one into a Christmas ham like her is so passe. - RWShow

by BoeJouma on Nov 4, 2009 12:28 PM CST up reply actions  

yes chiburb

the 24 times he drew a walk he should’ve been pumped as all get out!?!

i am not insinuating that aj sucked. if he did, i wouldnt be hoping that he’s on the roster in 2010. nor do i not notice the season that he had, and being only 1 of 2 regulars to end 09 with a .300 avg. however, the few games i was able to see this year on espn or wgn, rarely showed the aj full of gumption that i have seen in the past, and that in regards to the phrase “one bad apple ruins the bunch”, he may have been able pick up some of his team mates from their slumps if he was more “Enthusiastic” or optimistic or whatever…

Hell Yesss

by Grinder Rule #42 on Nov 4, 2009 3:32 PM CST up reply actions  

this is what i mean!


Tony f’n Robbins woulda got the team back on track.

Hell Yesss

by Grinder Rule #42 on Nov 4, 2009 4:06 PM CST up reply actions  

2010 ROSTER IDEAS

LF – Quentin
CF – Cody Ross
RF – Rios
3B – Bacon
SS – Alexei
2B – Getz/Nix platoon
IB – Paulie/Aybar/Kotsay
DH – Aybar/Paulie/Kotsay
C – Doumit/Flowers
Util – Kotsay, Nix, Getz, Any of our AA or AAA Outfielders
SP – Peavey
SP – MB
SP – Floyd
SP – Danks
SP – Sweaty/Hudson
Closer – Thornton
RP – Hudson
RP – O Do Tell
RP – DJC
RP – Pena
RP – Linebrink
RP – Nunez

Veterans/Salaries to go – AJ, Dye, Jenks, Pods
P/ups – Willy Aybar, Ryan Doumit (both Switch Hitters), Cody Ross
Trade Bait – AJ, Jenks, Torres, Fields

Ross will hit 30 HR’s and drive in 110 in the Cell
Aybar and Doumit as Switch hitters give Ozzie much more flexibility
Bullpen still real weak – Kenny’s toughest challenge is to pick off some
guys from other teams that are not being used enough (look at all the arms on
the Dodgers)……

by teepee14 on Nov 4, 2009 1:26 PM CST reply actions  

am i the only one in the entire world who thinks platooning getz and nix is really fuckin dumb?

getz should be the starter. the only way i would have him not start, is if retherford started.

Blasting one into a Christmas ham like her is so passe. - RWShow

by BoeJouma on Nov 4, 2009 1:30 PM CST up reply actions  

contrary to current belief

competition is what made america great.

by larry on Nov 4, 2009 1:38 PM CST up reply actions  

and here i always thought it was hating benedict arnold

brndnprkns: I'm pretty sure the "badass" value of your life is closer to Gigli than The Dark Knight

by whitesoxmatt on Nov 4, 2009 1:44 PM CST up reply actions  

if you're not exploiting slaves

you’re not trying

brndnprkns: I'm pretty sure the "badass" value of your life is closer to Gigli than The Dark Knight

by whitesoxmatt on Nov 4, 2009 1:59 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

this just may be post of the year for you

...take your hobbit circle jerk to another thread
by larry on May 18, 2009 8:58 PM PDT

by rhythm on Nov 4, 2009 2:42 PM CST up reply actions  

if you're not exploiting

slaves minorities, you’re not trying.

by soxshenanigans on Nov 4, 2009 3:21 PM CST up reply actions  

is that Danny Glover with dreads?

and why is his left tit bleeding?

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Nov 4, 2009 3:49 PM CST up reply actions  

youve never stabbed a black guy in the heart before?

thats just his blood, man

Blasting one into a Christmas ham like her is so passe. - RWShow

by BoeJouma on Nov 4, 2009 3:52 PM CST up reply actions  

nix is the better defender

and getz isn’t that much better against RHP than nix as it is. there’s no way getz is significantly better than nix. i think the opposite, on the other hand, is plausible if only because of getz’s injury issues.

2009 is just 2007 in 2008's clothing. - Trooper

by colintj on Nov 4, 2009 1:41 PM CST up reply actions  

did we ever see the results of the supposed interview?

I don’t think I ever saw the answer to my submitted question of asking if Getz or members of the Getz c(K)lan were Nazi’s.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Nov 4, 2009 1:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Hell hath no fury

as a woman scorned.

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Nov 4, 2009 2:57 PM CST up reply actions  

What I was going to say. As constructed above, Rios is a TERRIBLE waste in RF.

Of both money and lost production. In CF, his deal is “ok”.

"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "

by Chiburb on Nov 4, 2009 2:08 PM CST up reply actions  

how exactly do we land your pick-ups?

no way jenks goes to pittsburgh or florida

" Do you guys know people like you are the reason I wouldn’t come on for exstended periods of time. You rui the baseball blogging expieriance."
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT

by U-God on Nov 4, 2009 1:49 PM CST up reply actions  

ross? aybar? doumit?

boo

FIRE GREG WALKER NOW!!!!!!!!!

by blackoutsox on Nov 4, 2009 7:00 PM CST up reply actions  

KW will pull off his annual blockbuster

Jenks will go to Tampa for Crawford who will solve our leadoff problems. Thornton takes over the closer role.

by abat on Nov 4, 2009 2:09 PM CST reply actions  

gazoontite

Blasting one into a Christmas ham like her is so passe. - RWShow

by BoeJouma on Nov 4, 2009 2:10 PM CST up reply actions  

i like to dream too hank

" Do you guys know people like you are the reason I wouldn’t come on for exstended periods of time. You rui the baseball blogging expieriance."
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT

by U-God on Nov 4, 2009 2:12 PM CST up reply actions  

.

There's Your Zagnut!!!

by DrEmilioLizardo on Nov 4, 2009 2:16 PM CST up reply actions  

fairly certain "too" means "as well" or "likewise"

and wrong cartoon hank

" Do you guys know people like you are the reason I wouldn’t come on for exstended periods of time. You rui the baseball blogging expieriance."
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT

by U-God on Nov 4, 2009 2:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Matt? ABATacola?

"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "

by Chiburb on Nov 4, 2009 2:13 PM CST up reply actions  

but in seriousness

this is what i meant by no nintendo trades. crawford was the 9th most valuable position player in the AL last year. no way jenks gets him.

" Do you guys know people like you are the reason I wouldn’t come on for exstended periods of time. You rui the baseball blogging expieriance."
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT

by U-God on Nov 4, 2009 2:17 PM CST up reply actions  

But Jenks has nintendo stuff

"Awarding a difference maker on the field - and in the community at large - has always been baseball's version of a home run." ~Stephen A. Smith

by Carbiner on Nov 4, 2009 4:42 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

dont be a prick

do you really think nick johnson is KW’s 3 year board? Keep dreaming.

"you should go back to your cowardly practice of offering no opinion of your own."
-picktoclick

by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 5, 2009 12:41 AM CST up reply actions  

Jenks to TBay for Aybar and Fernando Perez (our new 4th OF)
AJ to FL for Ross (Marlins need a veteran catcher)
Fields, Torres and a minor league catcher (not FLOWERS) to Pittsburgh for Doumit

by teepee14 on Nov 4, 2009 2:16 PM CST reply actions  

Rec'd.

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Nov 4, 2009 2:58 PM CST up reply actions  

you can go ahead and ship that stuff over here to des moines

i could use a good high

Blasting one into a Christmas ham like her is so passe. - RWShow

by BoeJouma on Nov 4, 2009 2:20 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Remember when they used to play on the right rail?

Sigh.

"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "

by Chiburb on Nov 4, 2009 2:29 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

I'll rec'd that!

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Nov 4, 2009 2:31 PM CST up reply actions  

in all fairness

i did tell people to post their ideas here

" Do you guys know people like you are the reason I wouldn’t come on for exstended periods of time. You rui the baseball blogging expieriance."
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT

by U-God on Nov 4, 2009 2:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Nice. Job. Fuckface.

;)

...take your hobbit circle jerk to another thread
by larry on May 18, 2009 8:58 PM PDT

by rhythm on Nov 4, 2009 2:46 PM CST up reply actions  

fuck. face.

"Ninety percent I'll spend on good times, women, and Irish whiskey.
The other ten percent I'll probably waste."
- Phillies pitcher Tug McGraw, on his plans for his $75,000 salary

by e-gus on Nov 4, 2009 2:47 PM CST up reply actions  

good. point.

...take your hobbit circle jerk to another thread
by larry on May 18, 2009 8:58 PM PDT

by rhythm on Nov 4, 2009 3:11 PM CST up reply actions  

i was staring to think i was all alone...

Also, STOP PLAYING CHRIS GETZ! Bad bad bad. Nix’s defensive abilities (14.3 UZR/150 career) far outweigh his penchant to make less contact. Give Nix 500 PAs and I’d be willing to bet he hits at least .240/.335/.460 with 20 HRs. Throw in some incredible defensive value? Makes it almost pointless to have Getz on the roster.

"Accept the mystery."

by Andronicus on Nov 4, 2009 2:34 PM CST reply actions  

Bad?

No, this isn’t a clear cut decision. I see both players very similar in value (right now). Have them compete for the job in ST. Getz can get better defensively…not sure Nix will ever get any better with the bat.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Nov 4, 2009 2:41 PM CST up reply actions  

not with walker for another 2 years, thats for sure

retherford will put up a good fight in ST too. err… i hope so at least

Blasting one into a Christmas ham like her is so passe. - RWShow

by BoeJouma on Nov 4, 2009 2:43 PM CST up reply actions  

larry is pretty high on him too, but is he MLB ready?

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Nov 4, 2009 2:44 PM CST up reply actions  

would be what ST would show, no?

Blasting one into a Christmas ham like her is so passe. - RWShow

by BoeJouma on Nov 4, 2009 2:49 PM CST up reply actions  

FTR: Nick Johnson has averaged 85.5 games a season for his career.

Nick the stick can hit.
But what about the other half of the season.

"Ninety percent I'll spend on good times, women, and Irish whiskey.
The other ten percent I'll probably waste."
- Phillies pitcher Tug McGraw, on his plans for his $75,000 salary

by e-gus on Nov 4, 2009 2:52 PM CST reply actions  

i figure he's less likely to hurt himself as a dh

and with our training staff

" Do you guys know people like you are the reason I wouldn’t come on for exstended periods of time. You rui the baseball blogging expieriance."
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT

by U-God on Nov 4, 2009 2:54 PM CST up reply actions  

hes still a bigger risk than even Thome, and may even cost more.

"Ninety percent I'll spend on good times, women, and Irish whiskey.
The other ten percent I'll probably waste."
- Phillies pitcher Tug McGraw, on his plans for his $75,000 salary

by e-gus on Nov 4, 2009 2:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Well done, U-GOD.

I go for this plan big-time. Only question is why Brian Schneider? I guess you’re just looking at defense, which is #1 priority in a back-up catcher….that was my only double take, and a small one at that.

by dantesox on Nov 4, 2009 3:43 PM CST reply actions  

pretty much what you said

he’s been good defensively and it isn’t completely throwing away at-bats if you put him in the line-up. he’s also a lefty, which helps keep the lineup from getting too righty-heavy.

" Do you guys know people like you are the reason I wouldn’t come on for exstended periods of time. You rui the baseball blogging expieriance."
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT

by U-God on Nov 4, 2009 3:47 PM CST up reply actions  

except your bench, less Nix is already all lefty

and the starter, AJ, is a lefty.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Nov 4, 2009 3:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Well done, U-GOD.

I go for this plan big-time. Only question is why Brian Schneider? I guess you’re just looking at defense, which is #1 priority in a back-up catcher….that was my only double take, and a small one at that.

by dantesox on Nov 4, 2009 3:44 PM CST reply actions  

i guess i misses the memo on double-post wednesday

well, better catch up i suppose

Blasting one into a Christmas ham like her is so passe. - RWShow

by BoeJouma on Nov 4, 2009 3:45 PM CST up reply actions  

i guess i misses the memo on double-post wednesday

well, better catch up i suppose

Blasting one into a Christmas ham like her is so passe. - RWShow

by BoeJouma on Nov 4, 2009 3:46 PM CST up reply actions  

I feel bad.

I think my professor thinks I’m smirking/trying not to break out laughing at him now.

Chicago White Sox Examiner — I wish I could cuss right now.

by UribeAuction on Nov 4, 2009 4:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Colon absorbs another pudding

is more appropriate

FIRE GREG WALKER NOW!!!!!!!!!

by blackoutsox on Nov 4, 2009 7:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Rec'd

Good Guys Don't use the reply button

by stanleygoober on Nov 5, 2009 6:57 AM CST up reply actions  

on behalf of billy: Where the fuck's the gamethread?

I can’t wait to mobile post from the bar!
heh
heh
hehhhh

by homesickalien on Nov 4, 2009 4:19 PM CST reply actions  

his ballerness could not be stoped

Blasting one into a Christmas ham like her is so passe. - RWShow

by BoeJouma on Nov 4, 2009 4:22 PM CST up reply actions  

You're never alone with a schizophrenic!

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Nov 4, 2009 4:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Mmmmmmmmmmmm..............

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Nov 4, 2009 4:53 PM CST up reply actions  

hmm..

you think al roker misses his moobs?

Blasting one into a Christmas ham like her is so passe. - RWShow

by BoeJouma on Nov 4, 2009 4:54 PM CST up reply actions  

I am not to be mocked

but yeah, where the fuck is it

if larry would just give me a password!

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by billyok on Nov 4, 2009 6:17 PM CST up reply actions  

I really don't like your plan

Nick Johnson? I wouldn’t want him to play on my semi pro team because he is so unreliable. He has no power. No thanks. Marlon Byrd is better than Pods i suppose…but not by much. They aren’t going to carry 2 left handed hitting catchers. You didn’t address the bullpen which is one of the biggest flaws on the team. You didn’t add any power which is needed at the Cell.

REJECTED.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Nov 4, 2009 5:46 PM CST reply actions  

The answer is clear, trade for Mike Jacobs

"Awarding a difference maker on the field - and in the community at large - has always been baseball's version of a home run." ~Stephen A. Smith

by Carbiner on Nov 4, 2009 6:01 PM CST up reply actions  

career .447 SLG to go with that .402 OBP

throwing money at the bullpen is what got us into the mess we have. Suggest your own roster.

" Do you guys know people like you are the reason I wouldn’t come on for exstended periods of time. You rui the baseball blogging expieriance."
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT

by U-God on Nov 4, 2009 6:09 PM CST up reply actions  

The only guy they "threw money at"

that didn’t perform was Linebrink. Dotel did well in his stint and as a matter of fact i would offer him arbitration. If he accepts you get good relief work…if he declines hes a type A.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Nov 4, 2009 6:14 PM CST up reply actions  

thats actually not true.

i enjoyed the topic… and i appreciate the work he did to balance the budget….. i just don’t like the guys he wants to bring in. In fact I would offer myself a 1 year 500 thousand dollar contract to play instead of Nick Johnson.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Nov 4, 2009 9:08 PM CST up reply actions  

hey

he won like 4 championships in pee wee ball

FIRE GREG WALKER NOW!!!!!!!!!

by blackoutsox on Nov 5, 2009 12:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Here is my plan

sign a few old guys at discounted 1 or 2 year deals since it was trendy last year and hope they can support the offense in 2010. Keep Jenks and Dotel since the alternatives are not good.

Here is the list of players I would sign 2 or 3 of…..

Sign 1 of these……
Johnny Damon
Mike Cameron
Placido Polanco

Sign 1 of these guys….
Vlad Guererro
Hideki Matsui
Carlos Delgado
Miguel Tejada

Pitching staff is too good to waste on Getz, Nix, Pods… surround them with some major league talent.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Nov 4, 2009 6:20 PM CST reply actions  

you consider johnson unreliable

yet advocate signing 3 guys who are all at least 3 years older than him and all come with their own injury issues.

" Do you guys know people like you are the reason I wouldn’t come on for exstended periods of time. You rui the baseball blogging expieriance."
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT

by U-God on Nov 4, 2009 6:58 PM CST up reply actions  

He's obviously fucking with you,

trying to get you to use that injured wrist and type yourself into a relapse.

KenWo is cold, man. No Country for Old KenWo.

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Nov 4, 2009 8:06 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

rec

"...but the devil lives inside this kid, I swear it. It rises out of him in a mist, this baby-faced defiant wrathful version of Pat Kane, escapes his bodily confines to perform satanic miracles all over the offensive zone. The only thing more fearsome than that assist was the keep-in preceding it. The only thing more unholy than his face is his black magic." GMH

by Illini0509 on Nov 5, 2009 8:08 AM CST up reply actions  

indeed i do

In fact i’d rather sign Hank Blalock than nick johnson as well.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Nov 4, 2009 8:54 PM CST up reply actions  

ooo

you know he sucks, right?

"Ninety percent I'll spend on good times, women, and Irish whiskey.
The other ten percent I'll probably waste."
- Phillies pitcher Tug McGraw, on his plans for his $75,000 salary

by e-gus on Nov 4, 2009 9:30 PM CST up reply actions  

who has played less games over the past three seasons than nick johnson

and hasn’t been worth having since 2004.

" Do you guys know people like you are the reason I wouldn’t come on for exstended periods of time. You rui the baseball blogging expieriance."
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT

by U-God on Nov 4, 2009 10:38 PM CST up reply actions  

yah i know

i still have more confidence in him being useful than nick johnson….who is a very broke man’s mark grace at the very very best….. more like sean casey though….. you want sean fucking casey leading off. God are you dumb.

As a matter of fact Sean Casey and Mark Grace are way better than this assclown. His BR comparison is BEN BROUSSARD AND BRIAN DAUBACH! I hated fucking Daubach and Ben Broussard is in our system isn’t he?

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Nov 4, 2009 11:03 PM CST up reply actions  

better career obp and slg than mark grace

and johnson’s careere obp is .035 points higher than casey’s. so he’s not exactly a poor man’s version of either.

" Do you guys know people like you are the reason I wouldn’t come on for exstended periods of time. You rui the baseball blogging expieriance."
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT

by U-God on Nov 4, 2009 11:11 PM CST up reply actions  

oh wow. he can take a walk in the 40 games he plays

big fucking deal hit the ball you sally fuck!

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Nov 9, 2009 8:58 AM CST up reply actions  

I could support a Cameron and Damon signing.

They don’t fit under a $95m budget though without moving a Jenks or AJ salary.

If the world was perfect, it wouldn't be -- Yogi Berra

by mick10 on Nov 4, 2009 7:24 PM CST up reply actions  

fuck the 95 m budget.

If they don’t make a few signings without dumping people they aren’t going to win the world series. if they aren’t going to actually try to win the world series…. then why did we get peavy and rios. The sox window is 2 maybe 3 years. Better cash in while we can.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Nov 4, 2009 8:56 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

I agree

get Figgins!

FIRE GREG WALKER NOW!!!!!!!!!

by blackoutsox on Nov 4, 2009 9:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Matsui heard that I was scouting him

and decided to go win the MVP of the world series.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Nov 4, 2009 8:58 PM CST up reply actions  

hmmm

no.
no.
no.

then…
no.
no.
no.
no.

the suck is not just a river in ireland.

by BuehrleMan on Nov 4, 2009 6:42 PM CST reply actions  

Im really confused?

Why would we want to trade AJ? NO one is ready to replace him and he seems to be relatively cheap for a catcher of his production.

Try Linestink or Paulie or most likely Jenks

FIRE GREG WALKER NOW!!!!!!!!!

by blackoutsox on Nov 4, 2009 7:27 PM CST reply actions  

i don't advocate trading aj

but you won’t get any value for the three guys you mentioned. aj gets mentioned because he would bring value back.

" Do you guys know people like you are the reason I wouldn’t come on for exstended periods of time. You rui the baseball blogging expieriance."
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT

by U-God on Nov 4, 2009 7:30 PM CST up reply actions  

good point

Im just confused as to why everyone is treating AJ’s contract like its expensive

FIRE GREG WALKER NOW!!!!!!!!!

by blackoutsox on Nov 4, 2009 8:22 PM CST up reply actions  

because

ugod is retarded

"you should go back to your cowardly practice of offering no opinion of your own."
-picktoclick

by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 5, 2009 12:56 AM CST up reply actions  

Who the hell is going to take Linebrink?

Outside of the Royals, of course.

Chicago White Sox Examiner — I wish I could cuss right now.

by UribeAuction on Nov 4, 2009 8:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Only if we get Sisco back.

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Nov 4, 2009 8:21 PM CST up reply actions  

dumps like a truck, truck, truck...

...take your hobbit circle jerk to another thread
by larry on May 18, 2009 8:58 PM PDT

by rhythm on Nov 6, 2009 11:18 AM CST up reply actions  

Linebrink for Farnsworth

would be the most washed out trade ever

FIRE GREG WALKER NOW!!!!!!!!!

by blackoutsox on Nov 4, 2009 8:21 PM CST up reply actions  

linebrink for bradley?

id do it if the cubs picked up some cash.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Nov 4, 2009 8:51 PM CST up reply actions  

if bradley wasn't so batshit crazy and non-durable, i'd say it would actually make sense...

Bradley RF/DH
Beckham 3B
Quentin RF/DH
Konerko 1B
AJ C
Byrd LF
Rios CF
Ramirez SS
Nix/Getz 2B

"Accept the mystery."

by Andronicus on Nov 4, 2009 9:56 PM CST up reply actions  

fuck, id rather have josh fields or jerry owens lead off over bradley

i mean, really.

Blasting one into a Christmas ham like her is so passe. - RWShow

by BoeJouma on Nov 5, 2009 12:25 AM CST up reply actions  

no

bradley is damaged goods anywhere, and doubly so in chicago, and at least linebrink can be counted on for two great months before he starts crapping fire all over the place

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by billyok on Nov 4, 2009 11:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Is this not your first foray into actual commentary

about strategy? How’s it feel, BOK?

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Nov 5, 2009 8:47 AM CST up reply actions  

What do you think?

I was thinking of making Bobby a regular relief pitcher and moving Thornton to the closer role. I’ve thought about the sox getting harden but that would be a bad idea, seeing as how hes injury prone and that he wouldn’t want to pitch out of the bullpen. If the Teahen trade rumors are true does that mean that Chone Figgins rumors aren’t going to happen?

by Snakeyes1123 on Nov 5, 2009 12:59 PM CST reply actions  

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