Sox acquire Mark Teahen?
The Daily News learned the White Sox have agreed to send second baseman Chris Getz and third baseman Josh Fields to the Royals for Mark Teahen, who is expected to replace Jermaine Dye as Chicago's right fielder.
U-God edit: Sox officially re-signed Mark Kotsay. One year, 1.5 mil.
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Um.
More Thomers, plz.
"wordy and overly verbose."
by larry on Jul 3, 2009 3:43 PM CDT
by Black Sox Baseball on Nov 5, 2009 9:22 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Hate It, unless
he plays second base. He did for part of the year before Gordon went down for KC.
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by Bama Hawkeye on Nov 5, 2009 9:24 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
This seems like a "I'm sick of this guy hitting homers off of us" acquisition.
Too bad we didn’t deal Fields when he had value. Jesus.
"I call Dotel, got his ass kick. I call Linebrink, got his ass kick. Everybody I call is the wrong guy. I guess it's my fault!"
by RWShow on Nov 5, 2009 9:27 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
This is a terrible move
What’s wrong with Getz at 2B? He looked like he had a lot of upside.
Teahen does not make the Sox a better team. And the headline should read, “Teahen is expected to be a replacement level player in Jermaine Dye’s position.”
"You might be impressed with your analysis, but I am not. Stop wasting my time." - Chris De Luca
by BoKnows on Nov 5, 2009 9:29 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I don't see why they would play him in right
I think they’re gonna use him at third and move Beckham to second.
by Daniel Berlyn on Nov 5, 2009 9:33 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I guess that'd make some sense.
But that kind of production out of RF doesn’t make sense. Unless we just assume because he K’s all the time he hits home runs.
by Grinder in Training on Nov 5, 2009 9:38 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Big 12 HRs last year
"ass hole thi is the same line up whit leftys you idiot"
by Brush Back on Nov 5, 2009 9:38 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Makes more sense
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
by baetown415 on Nov 5, 2009 11:37 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I never really noticed this
but Teahen strikes out… a lot. And he isn’t that good.
by Daniel Berlyn on Nov 5, 2009 9:36 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Great!
He should fit perfectly as long as he plays below average defense and cannot hit with RISP and less than two outs.
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what the fuck are you doing? - larry
by Scotty Ballgame on Nov 5, 2009 10:05 AM CST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
More KC waste - This is a bizzare move... he's primarily played 3rd
Doesn’t add speed or power. Don’t get it, makes no sence
"ass hole thi is the same line up whit leftys you idiot"
by Brush Back on Nov 5, 2009 9:38 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Need a press release to believe
"ass hole thi is the same line up whit leftys you idiot"
by Brush Back on Nov 5, 2009 9:39 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm... I always thought Teahen was a better defensive player
but Fangraphs doesn’t like him a whole lot. Sure enough, Teahen grades out much better on Tango’s ‘Fans’ Scouting Report’.
You certainly can’t get too upset with who the Sox are giving up — very little upside is heading to KC (unlike, say, MacDougal for Lumsden + Cortes).
by CWSKeith on Nov 5, 2009 9:39 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Two future utility players for a current utility player.
Meh, I think KW could have done better on the open market. Getz has an upside as a regular second basemen, which would have been nice to have.
by Daniel Berlyn on Nov 5, 2009 9:41 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ehh -- I'd rather gamble on Teahen's upside (2006) than Getz' upside ("regular second baseman" seems like a stretch. Passable seems more apt.)
Teahen’s ZiPS for KC is .265/.328/.420, just about a league average bat. The only issue is his defense (at least according to UZR), but part of that might be the fact that he’s been jerked between 3B and RF for the past two years.
by CWSKeith on Nov 5, 2009 9:58 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Excellent...
the sox need more shitty players.
"ALL THESE WORLDS/ ARE YOURS EXCEPT/ EUROPA/ ATTEMPT NO
LANDING THERE/ USE THEM TOGETHER/ USE THEM IN PEACE"
by thecip on Nov 5, 2009 9:40 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Can never have enough!
"ass hole thi is the same line up whit leftys you idiot"
by Brush Back on Nov 5, 2009 9:41 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
smells like o hudson
getting signed to play 2B and lead off
12/12/07- We'll miss you Andy Gonzalez
by The Deacon on Nov 5, 2009 9:41 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Third
Did everyone forget that Teahan played third last year and it looks like will play third in 2010?
by Otter7 on Nov 5, 2009 10:11 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
no. we remember that teahen is an awful 3B.
by larry on Nov 5, 2009 10:30 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And Beckham...
wasn’t? I know he got better, but he wasn’t very good either.
by Otter7 on Nov 5, 2009 10:33 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I assume then
you also think Alexei was fine and that Posada isn’t that bad of a catcher.
by Otter7 on Nov 5, 2009 10:43 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hudson
has been linked to being one of KW’s guys. KW ALWAYS gets his guys. hahahahaha
12/12/07- We'll miss you Andy Gonzalez
by The Deacon on Nov 5, 2009 10:32 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Unless Chase Utley
ends up playing second for the Sox next year, if Teahan is in right, I’m with everyone who’s against this deal.
by Otter7 on Nov 5, 2009 10:33 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i highly doubt this is KW's last move
it seems to be a pre-cursor to another move, so lets not go insane.
12/12/07- We'll miss you Andy Gonzalez
by The Deacon on Nov 5, 2009 10:42 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Any guesses on what Teahen will make in arbitration?
$3.75 last year — probably gonna get a slight bump. $4.5-5.5 range seem reasonable? Or do they figure to try and sign him before it gets to that point?
by CWSKeith on Nov 5, 2009 9:45 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Leave us not panic my friends...
The NY Daily News says he replaces Dye in RF, that is all. I don’t think picking him up as a UTE is such a bad thing, who is the backup at 3B currently? He can also platoon with Nix at 2B, right?
With what we gave up, I don’t see this as a big deal.
"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "
by Chiburb on Nov 5, 2009 9:46 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Nix is the backup.
Teahen has all of 3 career games at 2B. I think they’re moving Beckham to the middle.
by Daniel Berlyn on Nov 5, 2009 9:49 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I know that, was saying Teahen is an upgrade as 3B backup.
"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "
by Chiburb on Nov 5, 2009 10:02 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
totally agree
Not a lot of wins moving either way. Not losing anything that cant be replaced. And Fields was done in our org either way.
His name is Rios and he dances on the sand
by Nordhagen on Nov 5, 2009 9:59 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
meh
massive upgrade in rf defensively with a step down offensively. if we had a competent batting coach i’d feel a lot better, but whatever.
if we sign figgins or polanco i’d feel pretty alright about the team.
by Craig Grebeck on Nov 5, 2009 9:56 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
and the term "massive" speaks to dye's shittiness rather than teahen's defensive prowess
by Craig Grebeck on Nov 5, 2009 9:57 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
if you like at the only season he played RF for the whole year, his uzr was 6
which was 6th best in the league.
by Shakey on Nov 5, 2009 10:09 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Happy Guy Fawkes day
except for hoodie, in which case, I hope you make it through unscathed.
His name is Rios and he dances on the sand
by Nordhagen on Nov 5, 2009 10:01 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Remember
remember the 5th of November
i'm celebrating the slaughter of the indigenous peoples of the western hemisphere.
what the fuck are you doing? - larry
by Scotty Ballgame on Nov 5, 2009 10:08 AM CST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Kotsay
Sox have announced that Mark Kotsay was given a one-year, $1.5 million deal to return to the South Side as a key reserve.
by DirtySox on Nov 5, 2009 10:08 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I approve of this.
If the world was perfect, it wouldn't be -- Yogi Berra
by mick10 on Nov 5, 2009 10:57 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
and now kotsay is back at for one year at 1.5
per cowley’s twitter. last three tweets:
As far as Getz, if he was traded it was news to him. The second baseman just said in a text, "I don’t know what’s going on.’’
less than a minute ago from web
Sox have announced that Mark Kotsay was given a one-year, $1.5 million deal to return to the South Side as a key reserve.
2 minutes ago from web
Reports out of NY have Getz and Fields going to KC for Mark Teahen. All is mum on Sox side so far.
19 minutes ago from txt
by Craig Grebeck on Nov 5, 2009 10:08 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Any updates?
like “Getz has reportedly injured his thumb sending the text ‘I don’t know what’s going on’. Trade now in doubt”
i'm celebrating the slaughter of the indigenous peoples of the western hemisphere.
what the fuck are you doing? - larry
by Scotty Ballgame on Nov 5, 2009 10:21 AM CST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Quoth the dog
No official word. Still sporting Royal Blue..
by Sox-35th on Nov 5, 2009 10:31 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes.
“Unbreakable” Getz is “unreliable” and Fields is “unworkable”. WTF difference does it make? If we are arguing about Getz v. Nix, who some of us tabbed “journeyman” last spring, there are bigger shake-ups to come.
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
by winningugly on Nov 5, 2009 11:10 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It's Mark Day!
"I call Dotel, got his ass kick. I call Linebrink, got his ass kick. Everybody I call is the wrong guy. I guess it's my fault!"
by RWShow on Nov 5, 2009 10:11 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I knew you were a Markist
i'm celebrating the slaughter of the indigenous peoples of the western hemisphere.
what the fuck are you doing? - larry
by Scotty Ballgame on Nov 5, 2009 10:16 AM CST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Well done, junior.
"I call Dotel, got his ass kick. I call Linebrink, got his ass kick. Everybody I call is the wrong guy. I guess it's my fault!"
by RWShow on Nov 5, 2009 10:51 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Is Teahan better off at RF or 3B?
If he is at 3B, does Bacon shift over to SS and Che back at 2B or does Bacon follow Ryno HoF course and move to 2B?
i'm celebrating the slaughter of the indigenous peoples of the western hemisphere.
what the fuck are you doing? - larry
by Scotty Ballgame on Nov 5, 2009 10:13 AM CST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Teahan is an upgrade at utility.
As a full time starter at any position, he sucks.
If the world was perfect, it wouldn't be -- Yogi Berra
by mick10 on Nov 5, 2009 10:36 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
This.
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
by winningugly on Nov 5, 2009 11:07 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Pros and Cons
Assuming Teahan is playing third:
Pros:
His bat isn’t the end of the world there and it makes our infield bats better.
No more Alexei at short? Say yes.
Cons:
He’s not the answer to pretty much anything right?
I don’t like or dislike.
by Otter7 on Nov 5, 2009 10:14 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Fields can play 3b as well as Teahan.
If the world was perfect, it wouldn't be -- Yogi Berra
by mick10 on Nov 5, 2009 10:37 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
his numbers are as good as fields.
that’s the sad thing.
by larry on Nov 5, 2009 10:40 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If this trade is true,
I’ll be damned if I can figure out why he made it.
If the world was perfect, it wouldn't be -- Yogi Berra
by mick10 on Nov 5, 2009 10:43 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
ask hawk.
there isn’t a player in the AL with higher upside.
by larry on Nov 5, 2009 10:44 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Gomez
If the world was perfect, it wouldn't be -- Yogi Berra
by mick10 on Nov 5, 2009 10:45 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
no.
he or another player may have as much upside. but not more.
by larry on Nov 5, 2009 10:48 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You can tie him, but you can't beat him.
"wordy and overly verbose."
by larry on Jul 3, 2009 3:43 PM CDT
by Black Sox Baseball on Nov 5, 2009 11:44 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Nix or Teahen as 3B backup? Teahen makes sense, especially if Nix is slated for 2B.
"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "
by Chiburb on Nov 5, 2009 10:46 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Then we just spent about $4M weakening 2b and upgrading utility.
If the world was perfect, it wouldn't be -- Yogi Berra
by mick10 on Nov 5, 2009 10:49 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
This has got to be the first trade
in getting Brandon Allen back.
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
by winningugly on Nov 5, 2009 11:26 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Let's offer Pena
If the world was perfect, it wouldn't be -- Yogi Berra
by mick10 on Nov 5, 2009 11:27 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
yes!
lets do it
FIRE GREG WALKER NOW!!!!!!!!!
by blackoutsox on Nov 5, 2009 12:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Clears the way at 2B for Hawk's and larry's guy
i'm celebrating the slaughter of the indigenous peoples of the western hemisphere.
what the fuck are you doing? - larry
by Scotty Ballgame on Nov 5, 2009 10:49 AM CST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Via Twitter
ESPY_TEAHEN No official word. Still sporting Royal Blue…
by chisox2691 on Nov 5, 2009 10:30 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Sox need some serious
shaking up if they’re going to compete deep. Their offense needs major upgrades.
IMO, Williams is not going to leave the offense to chance and waste the ace starting pitching he’s got.
People go thru the turnstiles to see WINS, not a starting pitcher and a 2 – 2 loss.
by ballyb on Nov 5, 2009 10:49 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Goes without saying
Reading up on Guy Fawkes and I was thinking there should be a FNS day where we have bonfires and burn an effigy of the ass penis and foil wrapped shaving cream pies.
Not sure on the date either the day the Sox traded for him or the day he was dealt
i'm celebrating the slaughter of the indigenous peoples of the western hemisphere.
what the fuck are you doing? - larry
by Scotty Ballgame on Nov 5, 2009 11:00 AM CST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
I love it.
Especially because “ass penis” is taking off.
"I call Dotel, got his ass kick. I call Linebrink, got his ass kick. Everybody I call is the wrong guy. I guess it's my fault!"
by RWShow on Nov 5, 2009 11:11 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Sky rocket's in flight?
"I call Dotel, got his ass kick. I call Linebrink, got his ass kick. Everybody I call is the wrong guy. I guess it's my fault!"
by RWShow on Nov 5, 2009 11:11 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You'd make a fine editor, Larry.
2 – 1.
by ballyb on Nov 5, 2009 10:54 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
speaking of dead horses:
Throughout his career he’s logged nearly 2,500 innings in the outfield – mostly the corners – and has a -1 UZR to show for it. That’s not horrible, especially not when contrasted to Jermaine Dye’s dead-horse act the past few seasons. His bat is what it is. Over the last three years his wRAA have ranged from -8.5 to 1.4, with a -3.9 year thrown in for good measure. Given the move to a more hitter friendly park, Teahen’s raw offensive numbers should improve. He is 28-years-old and Cot’s accredits him with service time of 3.155 (years.days). Add a year and Teahen will become a free agent for the first time following the 2011 season.
http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2009/11/5/1117230/chicago-white-sox-acquire-mark
"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "
by Chiburb on Nov 5, 2009 10:57 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I remember thinking that
Nick Swisher’s offense was going to improve when he first got here.
i'm celebrating the slaughter of the indigenous peoples of the western hemisphere.
what the fuck are you doing? - larry
by Scotty Ballgame on Nov 5, 2009 11:06 AM CST via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
highly rec this post
that would involve a whole bunch of skull fucking.-BoeJouma
by furby2056 on Nov 5, 2009 11:06 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
and of course FNS
that would involve a whole bunch of skull fucking.-BoeJouma
by furby2056 on Nov 5, 2009 11:07 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL.
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
by winningugly on Nov 5, 2009 11:08 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I enjoyed this.
"I call Dotel, got his ass kick. I call Linebrink, got his ass kick. Everybody I call is the wrong guy. I guess it's my fault!"
by RWShow on Nov 5, 2009 11:12 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
dave cameron
For the White Sox, this is yet another sign of the questionable talent evaluation methods used by Kenny Williams. There was no reason to give up anything of value for Teahen. All he’s done with this move is give himself a right fielder who shouldn’t play everyday and open up a bigger hole at second base.
not sure how, but cameron seems to be missing that KW is going to show some good talent evaluation by trading john danks to the mariners for jose lopez and fill that hole.
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/teahen-to-the-white-sox
by larry on Nov 5, 2009 11:16 AM CST reply actions 4 recs
Dave was on this site yesterday.
Giving us something to chew on early in the Hot Stove. Thanks, Dave!
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
by winningugly on Nov 5, 2009 11:18 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
beautiful
12/12/07- We'll miss you Andy Gonzalez
by The Deacon on Nov 5, 2009 11:18 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
While I'm not a huge fan of the trade...
I’ll reserve judgment on it until A) it’s confirmed by the Sox and B) the Sox intimate what Teahen’s role will be next year, whether it’s 2B or RF.
Also, rec’d
Chicago White Sox Examiner — I wish I could cuss right now.
by UribeAuction on Nov 5, 2009 11:18 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Nevermined, it's confirmed
http://www.suntimes.com/sports/1867251,teahen-getz-fields-white-sox-trade-05.article
Chicago White Sox Examiner — I wish I could cuss right now.
by UribeAuction on Nov 5, 2009 11:20 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Press release means it's so.
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
by winningugly on Nov 5, 2009 11:21 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I enjoyed him terming it a "fantastic deal" for the Royals
I can understand not being particularly thrilled about it from the Sox’ end, but let’s not act like KC is gaining a whole lot. Getz is interesting but blocked by a much superior player, and Fields’ power isn’t great when you realize he can’t play anything but 1B.
by CWSKeith on Nov 5, 2009 11:22 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He completely glosses over Getz' poor UZR, saying he's "adequate"
granted, I didn’t trust that UZR rating a whole lot, but nobody really knows if Getz will improve to league-average or stay well below yet.
Seems like Dave really has an agenda against Kenny Williams. Shocking.
Chicago White Sox Examiner — I wish I could cuss right now.
by UribeAuction on Nov 5, 2009 11:23 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Don't forget his delicate frame.
You think Alexei shies away from contact turning the double play, with Getz’ penchant for picking up nagging nicks and tweaks he’ll drive his manager nuts. And us, too.
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
by winningugly on Nov 5, 2009 11:25 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Soxtalk loved Getz...they have to be apoplectic over there...
I have to say, Getz is not going to hit for power and I don’t think he’s going to be anything more than adequate in the field (probably worse). His value in the future will hinge on him getting on-base and that’s not a sure thing.
So, I don’t think the Sox gave up too much. Teahen’s probably not good, but he can play RF better than Getz or Fields I suppose.
I assume the Sox will bring in a 3B or 2B somehow (Danks+prospects for Jose Lopez!!)
At any rate, KW just made the offseason interesting.
by hitlesswonder on Nov 5, 2009 11:41 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
We just signed Kotsay for $1.5m. He could play rf just as well for a lot less.
If the world was perfect, it wouldn't be -- Yogi Berra
by mick10 on Nov 5, 2009 11:46 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not so sure...he hit well with the Sox but that could easily be an aberration
Look at his recent numbers….
by hitlesswonder on Nov 5, 2009 11:47 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
indeed.
those injuries make me seriously doubt whether he could play full-time. could just mix and match kotsay and teahen i suppose. then again, they’re both lefties.
by larry on Nov 5, 2009 11:49 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
unless the grand plan is to platoon Teahen and Nix at 2b
If the world was perfect, it wouldn't be -- Yogi Berra
by mick10 on Nov 5, 2009 11:58 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Comments are great, ignoring one by "larry1sss"
Dave Cameron is an elite talent evaluator. He authored the John Danks for Jose Lopez trade! If you don’t understand that, then you’re not smart.
"Awarding a difference maker on the field - and in the community at large - has always been baseball's version of a home run." ~Stephen A. Smith
by Carbiner on Nov 5, 2009 11:45 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Not that bad?
How bad would a defense with Konerko, Nix, Beckham, Teahen, Podsednik, Ramirez, and Quentin be? Would that be the worst defensive team of all time? I think it might. (Rios should be out there somewhere, but I think Ozzie already hates him)
"Awarding a difference maker on the field - and in the community at large - has always been baseball's version of a home run." ~Stephen A. Smith
by Carbiner on Nov 5, 2009 11:58 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Sit down.
It’s a “push” except for the money. And the economy is improving (larry are we officially out of the recession by the 3rd quarter? Did I not tell you in January? Look it up.), so Happy Days are Here Again! (Written in Nov, 1929, right after the Crash. FWIW.)
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
by winningugly on Nov 5, 2009 11:24 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
easy killer...
Im just not sure how this really helps s all…teahan is defensive upgrade in RF ONLY at 3 mil extra…and JR has basically capped the 2010 team at 97mil, so we spent 3 of our 12 or so budget on a mid grade outfielder that also strikes out a lot and can’t move much faster than a Molina
by Anonymous #5 Starter on Nov 5, 2009 11:28 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So it's a "push" except for the moeny.
And we don’t have to look at the results of our pre-2008 scouting staff effing up on a regular basis by watching the malaprops and hijinks of two disappointing kids. I like that. Becks doesn’t need to see that.
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
by winningugly on Nov 5, 2009 11:31 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
"money". You'd think I could spell "money".
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
by winningugly on Nov 5, 2009 11:31 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
wow.
getz already being labeled disappointing. i guess it doesn’t take long for fans to turn on a player and circle the wagons around KW.
by larry on Nov 5, 2009 11:33 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The bandwagon's taking off.
Are you on the train, or what? Besides, KW’s raised the site valie by $10K just via this trade – 100 posts + on the day after the season ends. So you’ve gotta be happy.
I’m disappointed we didn’t get more for him. That’s about it. I didn’t see him fitting in long-term. If a guy can’t move J. Nix permanently to the bench I’m not impressed.
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
by winningugly on Nov 5, 2009 11:36 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
on the bandwagon for trading junk for junk and the paying millions to maintain the junk.
oh, yes. i’m right there.
by larry on Nov 5, 2009 11:41 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Good.
As I mentioned, this trade gets us Brandon Allen somehow. I have faith.
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
by winningugly on Nov 5, 2009 11:44 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
and Gio Gonzalez
i'm celebrating the slaughter of the indigenous peoples of the western hemisphere.
what the fuck are you doing? - larry
by Scotty Ballgame on Nov 5, 2009 11:50 AM CST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
I thought getz was labeled fragile or injury-proned not disappointing
i'm celebrating the slaughter of the indigenous peoples of the western hemisphere.
what the fuck are you doing? - larry
by Scotty Ballgame on Nov 5, 2009 11:37 AM CST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think getz was disapponting in a first full year...if he played the whole thing,
he would have been one of the top 3 in steals in the league with barely any CS…and I can’t see him slowing soon…and his defense was better than Nix…which who we got now…
and if money were no object, I’m sure we would be hearing about Figgins already…but if we get beaton him by 3 mil, I am going to hate this trade
by Anonymous #5 Starter on Nov 5, 2009 11:38 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
His defense was most certainly not better than Nix'
seriously, where does this crap emanate from? I’m not one who wants to see Nix as a starter — I think he’s perfectly suited as a backup infielder — but it’s pretty obvious that unless Getz has an absurd breakout with the bat, Nix is the better of the two.
by CWSKeith on Nov 5, 2009 11:42 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
the nix v. getz thing
was beginning to remind me of BA v JO v whoever. as if one of these was so better than the other. at least this trade will spare us that this offseason.
by larry on Nov 5, 2009 11:44 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah man.
I was worried that gruesome twosome would take turns ranging between bad and mediocre all year, IF this trade happens, atleast they are looking to improve at second base.
"Ninety percent I'll spend on good times, women, and Irish whiskey.
The other ten percent I'll probably waste."
- Phillies pitcher Tug McGraw, on his plans for his $75,000 salary
by e-gus on Nov 5, 2009 11:45 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
At any rate, Nix was the one with the higher ceiling
His range at 2B is (I think) among the best in baseball. And he obviously has big power for a middle IF. Unfortunately he has an abysmal contact rate and probably won’t ever overcome that.
Neither guy should be starting anywhere.
by hitlesswonder on Nov 5, 2009 11:45 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
oh yeah his range is outstanding.
too bad his glove is made of stone though.
"Ninety percent I'll spend on good times, women, and Irish whiskey.
The other ten percent I'll probably waste."
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by e-gus on Nov 5, 2009 11:46 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Manos de Piedras!
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
by winningugly on Nov 5, 2009 11:47 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
We are a pack of ravenous wolves
who have been tossed a single Chicken McNugget. This is highly unsatisfying. Nead more Peavy.
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
by winningugly on Nov 5, 2009 11:47 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Jenks for Crawford
"Awarding a difference maker on the field - and in the community at large - has always been baseball's version of a home run." ~Stephen A. Smith
by Carbiner on Nov 5, 2009 11:51 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Peavy for Zambrano
i'm celebrating the slaughter of the indigenous peoples of the western hemisphere.
what the fuck are you doing? - larry
by Scotty Ballgame on Nov 5, 2009 11:57 AM CST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Gatorade coolers beware
"Awarding a difference maker on the field - and in the community at large - has always been baseball's version of a home run." ~Stephen A. Smith
by Carbiner on Nov 5, 2009 11:59 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
catchers too!
i'm celebrating the slaughter of the indigenous peoples of the western hemisphere.
what the fuck are you doing? - larry
by Scotty Ballgame on Nov 5, 2009 12:02 PM CST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
If his range is as good as you say and he retains a 20 AB/HR rate
Then he’s still pretty valuable as a 2B starter, even with a 320 OBP.
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by Carbiner on Nov 5, 2009 11:47 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure he can keep up a .320 OBP
And, for whatever reason, I seems like clubs will tolerate someone like Getz starting if they can hit .270. But they won’t tolerate a guy hitting .220 even if their OBP is a 100 points higher.
by hitlesswonder on Nov 5, 2009 11:50 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i'm still sticking with .240/.310/.420 for Nix's true talent with the bat
there’s plenty of reason to start him if that’s the case.
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by colintj on Nov 5, 2009 12:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That sounds about right
and with plus defense, I could live with that at 2B.
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by UribeAuction on Nov 5, 2009 12:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I can't wait to watch all this awesome fucking defense at 2b.
If the world was perfect, it wouldn't be -- Yogi Berra
by mick10 on Nov 5, 2009 12:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Isn't this the guy who absolutely puked it up in the field
this year?
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
by winningugly on Nov 5, 2009 12:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
At SS, not 2B.
The 2009 White Sox....like a 40 degree day.
by Ozzie Montana on Nov 5, 2009 1:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
that slash line with +5 2B fielding would be an average player
2009 is just 2007 in 2008's clothing. - Trooper
by colintj on Nov 5, 2009 12:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You are really tempting me to post a Barbra Streisand youtube video here, WU.
by homesickalien on Nov 5, 2009 11:49 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
PBS! (It was in the bible ya know...)
"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "
by Chiburb on Nov 5, 2009 11:51 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
(colin and cip begin their Pavlovian drool.)
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
by winningugly on Nov 5, 2009 12:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought we were trying to get yourger and faster...and getz kind of highlights that..
especially with success rate of SB…Fields I get though
by Anonymous #5 Starter on Nov 5, 2009 11:21 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
yes you are right
Also the Sox won the WS with smallball in 2005 and Scotty Pods would make for a fine DH in 2010
i'm celebrating the slaughter of the indigenous peoples of the western hemisphere.
what the fuck are you doing? - larry
by Scotty Ballgame on Nov 5, 2009 11:32 AM CST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
I just chortled at the vision of Yuniesky Betancourt and Chris Getz being the Royals' double-play combo
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by UribeAuction on Nov 5, 2009 11:34 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
"Chortle" is a great word.
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
by winningugly on Nov 5, 2009 11:37 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Riefert posted the resigning of Kotsay, but nothing about this trade.
Im not convinced it happened.
"Ninety percent I'll spend on good times, women, and Irish whiskey.
The other ten percent I'll probably waste."
- Phillies pitcher Tug McGraw, on his plans for his $75,000 salary
by e-gus on Nov 5, 2009 11:35 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't be surprised to see Nix be the almost everyday
second baseman. Keeny gets a platoon partner for Teahen in right (Byrd?) and Teahan can also spell at second and third.. A little more versatility?
by dantesox on Nov 5, 2009 11:37 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
anyone else think the platoon idea is bad?
i mean swappingg a serious of mediocre players at any position as opposed to one good full time player for the same $$…
A platoon of Teahan and Byrd for 8 mil would not look nearly as nice as anyone available at 8 per year
by Anonymous #5 Starter on Nov 5, 2009 11:43 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Remember when Getz was on a streak RoY worthy?
That’s just unacceptable for this team.
"wordy and overly verbose."
by larry on Jul 3, 2009 3:43 PM CDT
by Black Sox Baseball on Nov 5, 2009 11:48 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Jeff Cox had a streak when he first came to the bigs.
Everyone has a streak.
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
by winningugly on Nov 5, 2009 11:49 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Because that comparison is fail-proof.
"wordy and overly verbose."
by larry on Jul 3, 2009 3:43 PM CDT
by Black Sox Baseball on Nov 5, 2009 11:50 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And yours is goofy.
So he was hot and we were excited. He broke down frequently enough to cool my ardor. I will NOT tolerate absenteeism on my watch.
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
by winningugly on Nov 5, 2009 12:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, then he stopped hitting that well and got hurt
thus is the life of Chris Getz.
Chicago White Sox Examiner — I wish I could cuss right now.
by UribeAuction on Nov 5, 2009 11:49 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Fielding Bible sez:
(2007-2009 @ RF)
Teahen: -7
Dye: -81
(2009 @ 3B)
Teahen: -12
Bacon: -2
I hope Teahen is a passable 2B…(-1 in just 23 IP)
"Accept the mystery."
by Andronicus on Nov 5, 2009 11:57 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
3B and 2B are equally difficult to play
2009 is just 2007 in 2008's clothing. - Trooper
by colintj on Nov 5, 2009 12:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
yet entirely different
If the world was perfect, it wouldn't be -- Yogi Berra
by mick10 on Nov 5, 2009 12:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
not correct.
2009 is just 2007 in 2008's clothing. - Trooper
by colintj on Nov 5, 2009 12:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Aw, he's so cute.
Too many flies, though.
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
by winningugly on Nov 5, 2009 12:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So it begins...
Like a sign from God to Pharaoh, the off-season never truly begins till Larry begins slaughtering livestock.
Reporter: I was wondering if at any point in my lifetime the Cubs weren't going to be run by a guy who didn't immediately remind me of failure, confusion, or imminent death
by Hazymania on Nov 5, 2009 12:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
"larry".
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
by winningugly on Nov 5, 2009 12:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Nothing from Getz
I saw a CST Cowley Tweet that Getz didn’t know about the trade (http://tinyurl.com/ylqqr4b).
Just read CSN’s Chuck Garfien spoke to Getz who said “nothing is confirmed” (http://tinyurl.com/yfpjfjm).
I’m kinda bummed to see Getz go if this is made official soon.
Looking for more updates. Pls post stuff if you find. Thanks.
by ChiSportsFan on Nov 5, 2009 12:04 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I feel as though this is a lateral move at best
unless the Sox are planning on signing a 3B. Then play Teahan in right, a DP combo of Alexei/Beckham, and the signed 3B. If thats the plan, I have no issue with this. The team would be best if Nix is a utility guy anyways.
brndnprkns: I'm pretty sure the "badass" value of your life is closer to Gigli than The Dark Knight
by whitesoxmatt on Nov 5, 2009 12:07 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Well, it's not a good trade because Teahen is too expensive
They didn’t give up much, but Teahen’s performance is crap and they could have done something better with the $4M he’ll be making.
But, if this trade means Pods isn’t re-signed and they bring in a good player to fill 2B or 3B then at least this move isn’t particularly injurious to their 2010 season.
by hitlesswonder on Nov 5, 2009 12:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So, will Pods DH then?
I assume that Teahen will be the RF since he’s awful in the IF. That closes the OF opening. Hmm.
Nightmare scenario:Teahen at 3B and Pods in CF. Eek.
by hitlesswonder on Nov 5, 2009 12:09 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Stop that.
I now am blind. Thanks, DB.
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
by winningugly on Nov 5, 2009 12:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Teahen LF, Q RF, Rios CF, De Aza 4th OF, Pods CF (Cubs)
"Accept the mystery."
by Andronicus on Nov 5, 2009 12:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
very good
FIRE GREG WALKER NOW!!!!!!!!!
by blackoutsox on Nov 5, 2009 4:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
KW's big splash
If the world was perfect, it wouldn't be -- Yogi Berra
by mick10 on Nov 5, 2009 12:45 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Would be better
if he impaled himself on the rock / tree stump to the right.
by ballyb on Nov 5, 2009 1:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i'm over here now.
the suck is not just a river in ireland.
by BuehrleMan on Nov 5, 2009 2:10 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
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