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Around SBN: Explaining Jeremy Lin's Early, Surprising Success

One year to the Dec. 11 date of J.J. Putz being part of a three-team deal sending him to the New York Mets, the right-hander agreed to terms with the White Sox on a one-year, $3-million contract. Putz, 32, is 23-19 with a 3.24 ERA, 103 saves and 356 strikeouts covering 337 career relief appearances and 352 1/3 innings pitched over seven Major League seasons.

Putz figures to take over Octavio Dotel's role as part of the late-inning setup crew, but when healthy, he also gives the White Sox another healthy option to close behind Bobby Jenks. From 2006-07, Putz ranked among the Major League relief leaders in strikeouts (2nd, 186), ERA (3rd, 1.86), saves (3rd, 76) and opponents average (4th, .182). His best season came in 2007, when he finished 6-1 with a 1.38 ERA and career-high 40 saves in 42 chances for the Mariners.

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Fans scream to let Putz close over magician Bobby?

"Oh well back to work"

by Tdogg on Dec 11, 2009 2:25 PM CST reply actions  

december 12th

brndnprkns: I'm pretty sure the "badass" value of your life is closer to Gigli than The Dark Knight

by whitesoxmatt on Dec 11, 2009 2:25 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

lol

"Oh well back to work"

by Tdogg on Dec 11, 2009 2:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Nice :)

Not picky, but very sticky....

by homesickalien on Dec 11, 2009 2:27 PM CST up reply actions  

Not true-

Bobby sure can make a moon-pie disappear!

There's Your Zagnut!!!

by DrEmilioLizardo on Dec 12, 2009 12:26 PM CST up reply actions  

over

unless Jenks blows it in spring training or they don’t resign him, I doubt he’ll lose his job

by Jack M on Dec 11, 2009 2:33 PM CST up reply actions  

no doubt

i answered it i think?

by Jack M on Dec 11, 2009 2:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Jenks is guaranteed nothing re: closing.

I like it. Get to work, fat boy! A hardened Putz is close behind you.

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Dec 11, 2009 2:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes to my Jewish bros

Happy Hanukkah

"Oh well back to work"

by Tdogg on Dec 11, 2009 2:43 PM CST up reply actions  

My brother,

when’s Kwanza?

;)

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Dec 11, 2009 2:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Jan. 26th-Jan. 1st

Where I'm going, you can't follow. What I've got to do, you can't be any part of.

by bhoov on Dec 11, 2009 3:59 PM CST up reply actions  

whoops

Dec. 26th-Jan. 1st.

Where I'm going, you can't follow. What I've got to do, you can't be any part of.

by bhoov on Dec 11, 2009 3:59 PM CST up reply actions  

I was gonna say,

Africans sure know how to par-TAY!

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Dec 11, 2009 4:00 PM CST up reply actions  

you are a man.

; )

the suck is not just a river in ireland.

by BuehrleMan on Dec 11, 2009 2:27 PM CST reply actions  

I read Kenny's comments

He said the’ve never been more pleased with their staff from starting to the rotation

by Option27 on Dec 11, 2009 2:49 PM CST up reply actions  

"From starting to the rotation".

Que?

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Dec 11, 2009 2:50 PM CST up reply actions  

English as second language.

"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "

by Chiburb on Dec 11, 2009 2:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Like most of us assume a leadoff hitter isn't that important.

But not all of us…

"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "

by Chiburb on Dec 11, 2009 3:05 PM CST up reply actions  

How so?

I don’t have the numbers in front of me, but I am certain that the average player batting 3 through 6 makes more than average player batting 1.

by joewho112 on Dec 11, 2009 3:18 PM CST up reply actions  

who cares who makes more?

I don’t understand the logic of not wanting a quality lead-off hitter. Isn’t it nice to have a guy getting on base for the big hitters?

by jimmyjr on Dec 11, 2009 3:26 PM CST up reply actions  

(Looks through Google furiously...)

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Dec 11, 2009 3:42 PM CST up reply actions  

What are you talking about?

The sole purpose of the lead-off hitter is to get on base for batters 2-5. They get more ABs than the lower in the order hitters so their job is more important.

by jimmyjr on Dec 11, 2009 3:48 PM CST up reply actions  

You're right. it's nobody else's job to get on base.

As productive as this has been, I think I’ll move away from the whole lead-off man topic. I’ll stick to my opinion, you can stay with whatever yours is. I’m not sure how you stand on this because your posts are random questions which make no sense.

by jimmyjr on Dec 11, 2009 3:58 PM CST up reply actions  

How does it make no sense?

You claim that the job of getting on base makes a leadoff hitter the most important, but you fail to recognize that it is everyone’s job to get on base. Therefore the job of getting on base doesn’t render any hitter more important than the other

by joewho112 on Dec 11, 2009 4:04 PM CST up reply actions  

all things being equal, you are correct

However there’s a little thing called talent, which allows for those players to reach base more often. They are more important players to the team and bat higher in the batting order.

by jimmyjr on Dec 11, 2009 4:07 PM CST up reply actions  

the alternative being an actual confrontation

of your stupid belief.

2009 is just 2007 in 2008's clothing. - Trooper

by colintj on Dec 11, 2009 5:01 PM CST up reply actions  

quality reply colin

Such a shame we don’t share the same opinion. Naturally, mine is wrong. Now why don’t you go fuck yourself you cunt.

by jimmyjr on Dec 11, 2009 8:08 PM CST up reply actions  

said the self-proclaimed Tool

2009 is just 2007 in 2008's clothing. - Trooper

by colintj on Dec 11, 2009 8:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Gentlemen, go to your neutral corners.

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Dec 11, 2009 8:50 PM CST up reply actions  

I believe there to be a tight correlation between "Coveted-ness" and willingness to pay

Ergo, the players that make the most are generally the most coveted at the time they are signed.

by joewho112 on Dec 11, 2009 3:48 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't think anyone is against getting a good leadoff hitter

I am just against ridiculous claims that leadoff hitters are highly coveted without some kind of evidence

by joewho112 on Dec 11, 2009 3:49 PM CST up reply actions  

you would think that.

Yet there have been several posts claiming that it doesn’t matter, or who gives a shit. My whole argument, from a previous fanpost, was that I don’t care if they re-sign Pods, but I hate the idea of putting Beckham in the #1 spot. I’d like to see him in #3 so he can drive in more runs.

by jimmyjr on Dec 11, 2009 3:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Is Pods one of our best starting 9?

I think not, at least not in 2010. So it’s fairly moot.

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Dec 11, 2009 4:01 PM CST up reply actions  

No

He is definitely not one of the best starting 9. But who knows what KW will do? I think that if he wasn’t asking for a two year deal that he probably would have already re-signed him.

by jimmyjr on Dec 11, 2009 4:03 PM CST up reply actions  

When people say it doesnt matter

They mean from a mathematically standpoint its insignificant. So while certain Beckham would have more RBI in the number 3 spot him batting first doesn’t really cost them many runs. Kind of the point right?

"Oh well back to work"

by Tdogg on Dec 11, 2009 4:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Great point

I guess that depends on who is driving Beckham in? I still think that people here under-value the lead-off batter. To me, it’s more than statistics. A good lead-off man can really disrupt the game for the opposing pitcher. It makes them think about something other than getting the batter out. Shit, now I sound like Hawk! I’m done.

by jimmyjr on Dec 11, 2009 4:26 PM CST up reply actions  

gays?

"I don’t know how you guys measure worth…but I do know you idiots need a graph to show you that Josh Fields sucks…"

by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 11, 2009 4:33 PM CST up reply actions  

If I wasn't at work

I post a link that Hillary Duff PSA. Then you’d rue that comment

by joewho112 on Dec 11, 2009 4:34 PM CST up reply actions  

that public service announcement

was beyond gay!

"I don’t know how you guys measure worth…but I do know you idiots need a graph to show you that Josh Fields sucks…"

by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 11, 2009 4:36 PM CST up reply actions  

or as hillary duff would like me to say...

THAT IS SO JOEWHO112!

"I don’t know how you guys measure worth…but I do know you idiots need a graph to show you that Josh Fields sucks…"

by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 11, 2009 4:38 PM CST up reply actions  

meaning.

gay.

"I don’t know how you guys measure worth…but I do know you idiots need a graph to show you that Josh Fields sucks…"

by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 11, 2009 4:38 PM CST up reply actions  

thank goodness for your explanation.

the original statement was quite subtle. wouldn’t want folks to get whooshed.

These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.

by thatshortkid on Dec 11, 2009 4:49 PM CST up reply actions  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdgpgRgwM8c&feature=fvw

"I don’t know how you guys measure worth…but I do know you idiots need a graph to show you that Josh Fields sucks…"

by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 11, 2009 4:50 PM CST up reply actions  

= why i say that's so gay

"I don’t know how you guys measure worth…but I do know you idiots need a graph to show you that Josh Fields sucks…"

by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 11, 2009 4:50 PM CST up reply actions  

GAY IS NOT AN ADJECTIVE!!!!

"I don’t know how you guys measure worth…but I do know you idiots need a graph to show you that Josh Fields sucks…"

by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 11, 2009 4:52 PM CST up reply actions  

/

"I don’t know how you guys measure worth…but I do know you idiots need a graph to show you that Josh Fields sucks…"

by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 11, 2009 4:55 PM CST up reply actions  

somewhere in that picture

it says “you got whooshed”.

"I don’t know how you guys measure worth…but I do know you idiots need a graph to show you that Josh Fields sucks…"

by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 11, 2009 4:58 PM CST up reply actions  

"gay old time"

WIIIIILLLLLLLMAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!

These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.

by thatshortkid on Dec 11, 2009 4:53 PM CST up reply actions  

happiness

is a noun.

"I don’t know how you guys measure worth…but I do know you idiots need a graph to show you that Josh Fields sucks…"

by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 11, 2009 4:58 PM CST up reply actions  

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/gay

" Do you guys know people like you are the reason I wouldn’t come on for exstended periods of time. You rui the baseball blogging expieriance."
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT

by U-God on Dec 11, 2009 4:59 PM CST up reply actions  

"I don’t know how you guys measure worth…but I do know you idiots need a graph to show you that Josh Fields sucks…"

by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 11, 2009 5:00 PM CST up reply actions  

rofl

watch the video…

 “gay is not an adjective” – Chris Crocker

"I don’t know how you guys measure worth…but I do know you idiots need a graph to show you that Josh Fields sucks…"

by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 11, 2009 5:01 PM CST up reply actions  

not

- wtgtd

"I don’t know how you guys measure worth…but I do know you idiots need a graph to show you that Josh Fields sucks…"

by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 11, 2009 5:01 PM CST up reply actions  

you didn't link to a video

you linked to this thread

" Do you guys know people like you are the reason I wouldn’t come on for exstended periods of time. You rui the baseball blogging expieriance."
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT

by U-God on Dec 11, 2009 5:02 PM CST up reply actions  

i hate how you make me do all the work.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdgpgRgwM8c&feature=fvw

You could have scrolled up and seen this.

"I don’t know how you guys measure worth…but I do know you idiots need a graph to show you that Josh Fields sucks…"

by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 11, 2009 5:03 PM CST up reply actions  

you're welcome

"I don’t know how you guys measure worth…but I do know you idiots need a graph to show you that Josh Fields sucks…"

by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 11, 2009 5:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Can't believe you didn't point out

the SB leader from 2003-2005 was…Pods! How serendipidous.

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Dec 11, 2009 4:46 PM CST up reply actions  

baserunner intangibles

perhaps larry or others can point you to better references, but this analysis, more or less concludes that disruption is worth a little more than over one run a season.

i'm alex rios' last fan

by onlysoxfaninboston on Dec 11, 2009 4:32 PM CST up reply actions  

hawk?

"I don’t know how you guys measure worth…but I do know you idiots need a graph to show you that Josh Fields sucks…"

by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 11, 2009 4:32 PM CST up reply actions  

please to be resolving the following

“who cares who makes more?”

vs.

“Thats why all MLB team covet good leadoff hitters.”

you somehow discovered the demand of MLB teams for a specific good without an investigation of prices. the NBER is all ears.

2009 is just 2007 in 2008's clothing. - Trooper

by colintj on Dec 11, 2009 8:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Here

http://twitter.com/InsideTheSox

“From the top of our rotation through the bullpen, we feel we’re as strong as ever.”

by Option27 on Dec 11, 2009 3:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Just giving you some hell.

Where you been hidin’?

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Dec 11, 2009 3:05 PM CST up reply actions  

I'll support this move.

Though I thought he was looking at $2.5MM + incentives.

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Dec 11, 2009 2:33 PM CST reply actions  

would have been even less if not for Marvin Miller.

piss up a rope fuckstick ...................by hoodlight

by mick10 on Dec 11, 2009 2:34 PM CST up reply actions  

What's 500K among friends

This would be an example of what a current team member SHOULD do to recruit friends. Not like that fcknuts Linebrink on the first Peavy trade.

"Oh well back to work"

by Tdogg on Dec 11, 2009 2:36 PM CST up reply actions  

plus they probably just moved 500k from the incentive pile.

something like ‘500k for continuing the bromance with thorndog’. didn’t want anyone to feel like a slut.

by Trooper on Dec 11, 2009 2:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Landis being the agent didn't hurt.

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Dec 11, 2009 2:38 PM CST up reply actions  

harvey dent

12/12/07- We'll miss you Andy Gonzalez

by The Deacon on Dec 11, 2009 2:53 PM CST up reply actions  

CAN HE BE TRUSTED?

EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine

by Sox Machine on Dec 11, 2009 3:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Wow really Damon?

Olney says the Yankees and Johnny Damon appear to be far apart in early contract negotiations. Mark Feinsand of the New York Daily News believes the Yanks will turn to Hideki Matsui, Mike Cameron, or Mark DeRosa if Damon won’t take a two-year offer within two weeks or so. Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports says Damon seeks three or four years at $13MM annually, while the Yanks are at two years, $19MM (Bobby Abreu’s contract).

"Oh well back to work"

by Tdogg on Dec 11, 2009 2:33 PM CST reply actions  

laughed when i read that!

he really wants 13m a year? crazy!

by Jack M on Dec 11, 2009 2:34 PM CST up reply actions  

what do you expect

from an admitted idiot?

the suck is not just a river in ireland.

by BuehrleMan on Dec 11, 2009 2:34 PM CST up reply actions  

he's a douche...

what the hell kind of a team is going to give that guy 4 years…he’s 36 years old.

by Shakey on Dec 11, 2009 2:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Hopefully not us.

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Dec 11, 2009 2:44 PM CST up reply actions  

royals

12/12/07- We'll miss you Andy Gonzalez

by The Deacon on Dec 11, 2009 2:45 PM CST up reply actions  

see jose guillen

12/12/07- We'll miss you Andy Gonzalez

by The Deacon on Dec 11, 2009 2:45 PM CST up reply actions  

CHONE likes him as a 2.8 WAR player in '09

(13-.5)/4.5 just so happens to be…2.8

alternatively (9.5 – .5)/4.5 is 2 expected WAR. obviously age is a factor, but the point is that Damon isn’t significantly (if at all) overvaluing himself.

2009 is just 2007 in 2008's clothing. - Trooper

by colintj on Dec 11, 2009 5:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah

but I think you’re underestimating age as a factor. Maybe he is worth 13 mill next year (that’s debatable but plausible considering his HR spike may have been a product of his ballpark and his defense was bad) but he’s asking for 3-4 years at that rate. What are the chances he’s worth 13 mill at 40? So yes he is greatly overvaluing himself and will come nowhere near that contract.

Where I'm going, you can't follow. What I've got to do, you can't be any part of.

by bhoov on Dec 11, 2009 6:48 PM CST up reply actions  

i was assuming inflation of the cost of a win and his decline would be about the same.

Tango’s standard, iirc, is a half win per year decline and a 10% inflation rate:

2.8/2.3/1.8/1.3
4.5/5/5.5/6.1

That gives an average of 2.7M of missing expected value per year, or about a half win per year.

you’re right that that may not apply to a 36 year old. i’m not that familiar with the aging curve.

2009 is just 2007 in 2008's clothing. - Trooper

by colintj on Dec 11, 2009 8:40 PM CST up reply actions  

Where's MacDougal???

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
rdsma?

by ballyb on Dec 11, 2009 2:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Randy!?

The world needs the Jedi now more than ever

by Carbiner on Dec 11, 2009 8:39 PM CST up reply actions  

This transaction pleases me

Thank you for update

signature

by billyok on Dec 11, 2009 2:45 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

not the same as a gamethread, but it'll do.

"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "

by Chiburb on Dec 11, 2009 2:46 PM CST up reply actions  

I remember this line from "Babe".

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Dec 11, 2009 2:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Me too.

On to the outfield/DH.

by dantesox on Dec 11, 2009 2:46 PM CST up reply actions  

This is an absolute steal...

Compared to the Brandon Lyon deal….

It's called Sex Panther by Odeon. It's illegal in nine countries... Yep, it's made with bits of real panther, so you know it's good.

They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.

by ElDiablo on Dec 11, 2009 2:48 PM CST reply actions  

If...he...is...healthy.

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Dec 11, 2009 2:49 PM CST up reply actions  

+1

could be a total waste of 3m if hasn’t / doesn’t recover and return to his old form

by Jack M on Dec 11, 2009 2:50 PM CST up reply actions  

All the due dili in the world won't prep us for his actual performance.

We made a nice eff-up when we brought Esteban L. aboard, recall?

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Dec 11, 2009 2:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Colon

"ass hole thi is the same line up whit leftys you idiot"

by Brush Back on Dec 11, 2009 2:52 PM CST up reply actions  

He performed about as well as expected, in all seriousness.

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Dec 11, 2009 2:53 PM CST up reply actions  

As we expected - not as KW portayed

"ass hole thi is the same line up whit leftys you idiot"

by Brush Back on Dec 11, 2009 2:54 PM CST up reply actions  

We see through KW's BS, generally,

and he got what he expected.

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Dec 11, 2009 2:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Looks like a decent risk.

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Dec 11, 2009 2:58 PM CST up reply actions  

Not when you only have 50 cents

"ass hole thi is the same line up whit leftys you idiot"

by Brush Back on Dec 11, 2009 2:59 PM CST up reply actions  

TY

Every good port begins with a slut.

- homesickalien

by Scotty Ballgame on Dec 11, 2009 3:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Agreed.

That was an excellent sign/chance by the Sox.

by dantesox on Dec 11, 2009 2:54 PM CST up reply actions  

signing kenwo to a 3m deal is a steal

compared to the Brandon Lyon deal

"...but the devil lives inside this kid, I swear it. It rises out of him in a mist, this baby-faced defiant wrathful version of Pat Kane, escapes his bodily confines to perform satanic miracles all over the offensive zone. The only thing more fearsome than that assist was the keep-in preceding it. The only thing more unholy than his face is his black magic." GMH

by Illini0509 on Dec 11, 2009 2:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Do your research

KenWo has a torn labrum and as a result should not be offered even a minor league deal

Every good port begins with a slut.

- homesickalien

by Scotty Ballgame on Dec 11, 2009 4:00 PM CST up reply actions  

coop'll fix him

These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.

by thatshortkid on Dec 11, 2009 4:08 PM CST up reply actions  

What?

Every good port begins with a slut.

- homesickalien

by Scotty Ballgame on Dec 11, 2009 4:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Beam your eyes up, Scotty.

(Look above in this thread.)

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Dec 11, 2009 4:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Ah I see

I will whoosh myself

Every good port begins with a slut.

- homesickalien

by Scotty Ballgame on Dec 11, 2009 7:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Provided he stayed healthy, better than offering Dotel arbitration.

Now, get some fucking defense and OBP to make the pitching relevant.

The 2009 White Sox....like a 40 degree day.

by Ozzie Montana on Dec 11, 2009 2:50 PM CST reply actions  

Defense, especially.

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Dec 11, 2009 2:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Beltre!!!!

Not picky, but very sticky....

by homesickalien on Dec 11, 2009 2:56 PM CST up reply actions  

esteban?

12/12/07- We'll miss you Andy Gonzalez

by The Deacon on Dec 11, 2009 2:57 PM CST up reply actions  

his asking price is ~10m/yr

"...but the devil lives inside this kid, I swear it. It rises out of him in a mist, this baby-faced defiant wrathful version of Pat Kane, escapes his bodily confines to perform satanic miracles all over the offensive zone. The only thing more fearsome than that assist was the keep-in preceding it. The only thing more unholy than his face is his black magic." GMH

by Illini0509 on Dec 11, 2009 2:59 PM CST up reply actions  

you and me both

"...but the devil lives inside this kid, I swear it. It rises out of him in a mist, this baby-faced defiant wrathful version of Pat Kane, escapes his bodily confines to perform satanic miracles all over the offensive zone. The only thing more fearsome than that assist was the keep-in preceding it. The only thing more unholy than his face is his black magic." GMH

by Illini0509 on Dec 11, 2009 3:01 PM CST up reply actions  

rofl

"I don’t know how you guys measure worth…but I do know you idiots need a graph to show you that Josh Fields sucks…"

by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 11, 2009 4:20 PM CST up reply actions  

whoosa

2009 is just 2007 in 2008's clothing. - Trooper

by colintj on Dec 11, 2009 5:29 PM CST up reply actions  

was that a partial woosh

or the relaxation technique put forward in ‘Bad Boys II’?

by coffeepac on Dec 11, 2009 6:47 PM CST up reply actions  

I want Crawford.

;)

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Dec 11, 2009 2:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Joan?

"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "

by Chiburb on Dec 11, 2009 2:55 PM CST up reply actions  

cindy

12/12/07- We'll miss you Andy Gonzalez

by The Deacon on Dec 11, 2009 2:56 PM CST up reply actions  

yeah. for you or me, but not someone HIS age.

"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "

by Chiburb on Dec 11, 2009 2:57 PM CST up reply actions  

cindy

piss up a rope fuckstick ...................by hoodlight

by mick10 on Dec 11, 2009 2:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Joan.

"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "

by Chiburb on Dec 11, 2009 2:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Whew.

You win.

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Dec 11, 2009 2:59 PM CST up reply actions  

this

piss up a rope fuckstick ...................by hoodlight

by mick10 on Dec 11, 2009 3:05 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

FTW.

I have told my wife I’m gone if CC ever crooks her finger in my direction. And she’s from Illinois!

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Dec 11, 2009 3:06 PM CST up reply actions  

I looked out onto Rush St. a few years ago

(sitting in the Gold Coast Starbucks window) and saw the most beautiful ass I’d ever seen on a woman (with her back to me). She turns around …… and it’s Cindy Crawford. Almost fainted. More gorgeous in person than the above picture.

by ballyb on Dec 11, 2009 3:10 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

this one?

piss up a rope fuckstick ...................by hoodlight

by mick10 on Dec 11, 2009 3:11 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

NSFW,

and I would allow myself to get fired.

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Dec 11, 2009 3:23 PM CST up reply actions  

my thumb has no boundaries.

"I don’t know how you guys measure worth…but I do know you idiots need a graph to show you that Josh Fields sucks…"

by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 11, 2009 4:21 PM CST up reply actions  

BTW, glad you clarified the

“the most beautiful ass I’d ever seen on a woman ”. So what the most beautiful ass you’ve ever seen (not limited to homosapiens, either)?

;)

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Dec 11, 2009 4:11 PM CST up reply actions  

hawt.

These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.

by thatshortkid on Dec 11, 2009 4:19 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

It's shaped like a heart

Every good port begins with a slut.

- homesickalien

by Scotty Ballgame on Dec 11, 2009 4:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Just for bally.

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Dec 11, 2009 4:22 PM CST up reply actions  

this

2009 is just 2007 in 2008's clothing. - Trooper

by colintj on Dec 11, 2009 5:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Absolutely

"I call Dotel, got his ass kick. I call Linebrink, got his ass kick. Everybody I call is the wrong guy. I guess it's my fault!"

by RWShow on Dec 12, 2009 10:01 AM CST up reply actions  

cindy

Not picky, but very sticky....

by homesickalien on Dec 11, 2009 2:57 PM CST up reply actions  

I see where your mind is at.

Coat-hanger boy.

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Dec 11, 2009 2:57 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree - but not for what it will cost for 1 year

"ass hole thi is the same line up whit leftys you idiot"

by Brush Back on Dec 11, 2009 2:56 PM CST up reply actions  

for what?

How will the other team score?

piss up a rope fuckstick ...................by hoodlight

by mick10 on Dec 11, 2009 2:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Here you go

Bats…

"ass hole thi is the same line up whit leftys you idiot"

by Brush Back on Dec 11, 2009 2:58 PM CST up reply actions  

with H E A R T S on it !!!!

"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "

by Chiburb on Dec 11, 2009 2:58 PM CST up reply actions  

ok, a bat that WANTS IT MORE!!!!!

"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "

by Chiburb on Dec 11, 2009 3:02 PM CST up reply actions  

B-R-A-I-N-S

The 2009 White Sox....like a 40 degree day.

by Ozzie Montana on Dec 11, 2009 3:03 PM CST up reply actions  

P-U-T-Z PutzPutzPutz

Every good port begins with a slut.

- homesickalien

by Scotty Ballgame on Dec 11, 2009 4:03 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

did the getz guy change his name yet?

"I like my DH like I like my women. Fat , slow and full of power."
by soxshenanigans

by e-gus on Dec 11, 2009 4:29 PM CST up reply actions  

If not yet, I would imagine soon

Nothing worse than having an outdated screenname

Every good port begins with a slut.

- homesickalien

by Scotty Ballgame on Dec 11, 2009 4:46 PM CST up reply actions  

getz-

is a racist bigot.

"I don’t know how you guys measure worth…but I do know you idiots need a graph to show you that Josh Fields sucks…"

by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 11, 2009 4:47 PM CST up reply actions  

remember what larry tells you

only post on things that you know about. other than that. KEEP YOUR FUCKING MOUTH SHUT!!!

"I don’t know how you guys measure worth…but I do know you idiots need a graph to show you that Josh Fields sucks…"

by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 15, 2009 6:29 PM CST up reply actions  

I think he is talking about this comment

link

Every good port begins with a slut.

- homesickalien

by Scotty Ballgame on Dec 12, 2009 9:09 AM CST up reply actions  

And, was it Beam?

"I call Dotel, got his ass kick. I call Linebrink, got his ass kick. Everybody I call is the wrong guy. I guess it's my fault!"

by RWShow on Dec 12, 2009 10:03 AM CST up reply actions  

See Know Evil Hear No Evil

There is really no Richard Prior Fans Here? WTF?

by G-E-T-Z GetzGetzGetz on Dec 12, 2009 12:12 PM CST up reply actions  

I see what you did there

"I call Dotel, got his ass kick. I call Linebrink, got his ass kick. Everybody I call is the wrong guy. I guess it's my fault!"

by RWShow on Dec 12, 2009 10:02 AM CST up reply actions  

We scored 724 runs

last year w/ Thome and Dye, 3rd least in AL.

by ballyb on Dec 11, 2009 2:59 PM CST up reply actions  

1/2 Dye, 2/3 Thome.

"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "

by Chiburb on Dec 11, 2009 3:00 PM CST up reply actions  

You're right.

Omar will carry the bat load.

by ballyb on Dec 11, 2009 3:02 PM CST up reply actions  

and an extra 1/3 of Bacon!!!!

In like Flynn!

"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "

by Chiburb on Dec 11, 2009 3:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Bats?

"ass hole thi is the same line up whit leftys you idiot"

by Brush Back on Dec 11, 2009 3:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Bat! BadaBOOM!

Not picky, but very sticky....

by homesickalien on Dec 11, 2009 3:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Bill James has some nice projections for Putz....

fan projections put him at a .9 war … for a guy who has shown that he can close effectively in the past and is only 32, i think that this is a good flyer taken…

It's called Sex Panther by Odeon. It's illegal in nine countries... Yep, it's made with bits of real panther, so you know it's good.

They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.

by ElDiablo on Dec 11, 2009 2:55 PM CST reply actions  

I think Jenks starts the season with us as our closer....

but where is the market for him if there even is one?

In the NL:

Cubs? Nats? Phils (doubtful)?

AL:

Bal? Tor? Sea?

by stanchar on Dec 11, 2009 2:56 PM CST reply actions  

sure, they'll need a closer in the cellar.

"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "

by Chiburb on Dec 11, 2009 3:02 PM CST up reply actions  

In all seriousness...

I’d still look into getting Pie….sort of as a side chance…..I honestly think he still has a chance.

by dantesox on Dec 11, 2009 3:07 PM CST up reply actions  

get the hell out

piss up a rope fuckstick ...................by hoodlight

by mick10 on Dec 11, 2009 3:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Not for Jenks.

And not so much for anything we’d be depending on. We may get him cheaply at this point, and at minimum, he can be on the roster instead of someone like DeAza.

by dantesox on Dec 11, 2009 3:12 PM CST up reply actions  

They seem willing to add payroll.......

I guess if KW could find some prospects there he’d do it to shave the 7.5 mil……and then use that cash to help fund OF/DH/Loogy

by stanchar on Dec 11, 2009 3:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Big "IF" but "IF" we hold onto Bobby.......

Liney rebounds to 2008 form, and Putz is healthy we certainly will have what Harrelson always prematurely claims we have had in the past and that’s “one of the best bullpens in baseball.”

by stanchar on Dec 11, 2009 3:07 PM CST reply actions  

thus making our offense better

piss up a rope fuckstick ...................by hoodlight

by mick10 on Dec 11, 2009 3:07 PM CST up reply actions  

and thus the best offense

See, this is what happens when the Sox bunt.
Discord is sown. Brother fights brother. Misunderstandings abound.

-TAEG

by blackoutsox on Dec 11, 2009 3:49 PM CST up reply actions  

That's weak

Kenny signed Putz despite the best efforts of bloggers to derail the deal. They’re devious.

by 67WMAQ on Dec 11, 2009 3:37 PM CST up reply actions  

haha, that's good

but we may prevent management from resigning pods

i'm alex rios' last fan

by onlysoxfaninboston on Dec 11, 2009 3:38 PM CST up reply actions  

flagged

Doesn’t open in new window

Reporter: I was wondering if at any point in my lifetime the Cubs weren't going to be run by a guy who didn't immediately remind me of failure, confusion, or imminent death

by Hazymania on Dec 11, 2009 6:11 PM CST up reply actions  

doesn't surprise me

piss up a rope fuckstick ...................by hoodlight

by mick10 on Dec 11, 2009 6:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Very good news

I’ll be even happier when the Sox bring back Carrasco.

by Can I Kick It? on Dec 11, 2009 3:44 PM CST reply actions  

Big fan of this move.

i was awful pissy when we didn’t offer Octavio arb…. but this is a good good signing. Always been a fan of JJ PUTZ! NOW….Get me a power hitter now for the love of all that is good.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Dec 11, 2009 4:18 PM CST reply actions  

I need some more fire from you...

ratings are down.

"I don’t know how you guys measure worth…but I do know you idiots need a graph to show you that Josh Fields sucks…"

by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 11, 2009 4:49 PM CST up reply actions  

go blue baby

2009 is just 2007 in 2008's clothing. - Trooper

by colintj on Dec 11, 2009 5:49 PM CST up reply actions  

this signing makes me HAPPY

a real pitcher worth his money unlike linebrink.

Ugh that season completely sucked but i have so many other things to look forward to. GO BLACKHAWKS! GO BEARS! 2010 WHITE SOX!

by pierzynskirules on Dec 11, 2009 4:26 PM CST reply actions  

X and Q!?

"I like my DH like I like my women. Fat , slow and full of power."
by soxshenanigans

by e-gus on Dec 11, 2009 6:49 PM CST up reply actions  

and a triple word score! yes!

These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.

by thatshortkid on Dec 11, 2009 7:16 PM CST up reply actions  

heh

Not picky, but very sticky....

by homesickalien on Dec 12, 2009 2:18 PM CST up reply actions  

CHONE has Putz with a 3.79 ERA, but projects only 38 IP

presumably replacement level is somewhere around 4.4. w/ no leverage, that’s about a half win in 70 IP. w/ Dotel’s career leverage, that’s about 7 runs in 70 IP.

the expected WAR for $3MM is (3 – .5)/4.5 ~ 5.5 runs

2009 is just 2007 in 2008's clothing. - Trooper

by colintj on Dec 11, 2009 5:55 PM CST reply actions  

And in English?

"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "

by Chiburb on Dec 11, 2009 6:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Figgins thinks Putz is good.

"I like my DH like I like my women. Fat , slow and full of power."
by soxshenanigans

by e-gus on Dec 11, 2009 6:49 PM CST up reply actions  

is anything actually confusing

or is this one of those Rhetorical Devices i’ve been hearing so much about?

2009 is just 2007 in 2008's clothing. - Trooper

by colintj on Dec 11, 2009 8:44 PM CST up reply actions  

projects him for 4/7 of a normal high end reliever (70 IP)

if he can’t pitch nearly a full season, there goes that half win

2009 is just 2007 in 2008's clothing. - Trooper

by colintj on Dec 11, 2009 8:42 PM CST up reply actions  

oui

it’s a weighted average, which doesn’t necessarily describe how fat the tails are.

2009 is just 2007 in 2008's clothing. - Trooper

by colintj on Dec 11, 2009 10:25 PM CST up reply actions  

oh my

Putz = 3
Teahen= 2
Vizquel=2
Jones=.5
-———————-
7.5 M

Figguens = 8 M

not enough money my ass

See, this is what happens when the Sox bunt.
Discord is sown. Brother fights brother. Misunderstandings abound.

-TAEG

by blackoutsox on Dec 11, 2009 10:26 PM CST reply actions  

Four for the price of one!

Now that’s what I call value!

Reporter: I was wondering if at any point in my lifetime the Cubs weren't going to be run by a guy who didn't immediately remind me of failure, confusion, or imminent death

by Hazymania on Dec 11, 2009 10:38 PM CST up reply actions  

+4 vs +1

do you not understand the system?

waiting for shaun phigguns since 2007

by soxshenanigans on Dec 12, 2009 9:29 AM CST up reply actions  

Dayton Moore is a Genius

Royals sign Jason Kendall to a two year reportedly worth $6 million

Link Here

I know most people don’t care that much, but it just makes me glad not to be a Royals fan. At least they aren’t going to put Mike Jacobs on the field anymore.

by chiefgint09 on Dec 11, 2009 11:47 PM CST reply actions  

I'll take putz for the same price...

and half the years

It's called Sex Panther by Odeon. It's illegal in nine countries... Yep, it's made with bits of real panther, so you know it's good.

They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.

by ElDiablo on Dec 12, 2009 8:37 AM CST up reply actions  

how much longer do they have Farnsworth?

See, this is what happens when the Sox bunt.
Discord is sown. Brother fights brother. Misunderstandings abound.

-TAEG

by blackoutsox on Dec 12, 2009 10:57 PM CST up reply actions  

farnsworth to the royals is like masset to the rest of baseball.

as long as dayton moore is in charge, they will always have farnsworth.

by larry on Dec 12, 2009 11:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Fangraphs take on Putz signing

link

It's called Sex Panther by Odeon. It's illegal in nine countries... Yep, it's made with bits of real panther, so you know it's good.

They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.

by ElDiablo on Dec 12, 2009 8:40 AM CST reply actions  

After looking at that - this move is a waste of 3 mil

At leat the othe 3 is in incentives

"ass hole thi is the same line up whit leftys you idiot"

by Brush Back on Dec 12, 2009 10:02 AM CST up reply actions  

Hallyday in coma

How does this affect SSS’s 2010 lineup discussions?

Every good port begins with a slut.

- homesickalien

by Scotty Ballgame on Dec 12, 2009 10:54 AM CST reply actions  

Over/under on what day Putz comes in from the pen to

“POOOOOOOOOOOOTTZZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Dec 13, 2009 11:57 AM CST reply actions  

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