White Sox Acquire Juan Pierre
The White Sox acquired Juan Pierre from the Dodgers for two minor league pitchers, John Ely and Jon Link.
Pierre will cost the White Sox $3 million in ‘10 and $5 milllion in ’11, with the Dodgers picking up the remaining $10.5 million of his $18.5 million.
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huh, 7 minutes earlier and with more information
yet not FPed. how about that.
These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.
nevermind.
These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.
by thatshortkid on Dec 15, 2009 10:16 AM CST up reply actions
at this point
Isnt he just a less grindy Pods? Is there anything that distiguishes them?
His name is Rios and he dances on the sand
I didnt want Pierre
But assuming the prospects are not over the top (hard to do in our system) the price is actually nice.
"Oh well back to work"
Probably a hotter wife too.
Not picky, but very sticky....
by homesickalien on Dec 15, 2009 10:24 AM CST up reply actions
He picked that up when he was on the Cubs.
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by homesickalien on Dec 15, 2009 10:39 AM CST up reply actions
Don't you want to point out an additional reason why Pierre appears less grindy?
Maybe one of those overlapping color charts… in MSPaint perhaps.
I have no idea what you're talking about. I see no color, Mitch. We're all brothers and sisters in my heart.
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by homesickalien on Dec 15, 2009 11:42 AM CST up reply actions
Pierre is in the same family as D-weezy, perhaps.
Except a better resume.
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
by winningugly on Dec 15, 2009 12:36 PM CST up reply actions
DEWAYNE IS FRENCH?!?!
;)
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by homesickalien on Dec 15, 2009 12:37 PM CST up reply actions
They are both in the The Family ?
Damn never pegged D-weezy as a far right christian
by MilkThenClear on Dec 15, 2009 12:43 PM CST up reply actions
no way they eat half that contract
and not get hudson. I think i will hate this trade soon.
Lurking since 2006
Doubtful...
Juan Pierre at 5 million per is not worth Hudson.
by Grinder in Training on Dec 15, 2009 10:19 AM CST up reply actions
please let it be Marquez
please let it be Marquez
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by Scotty Ballgame on Dec 15, 2009 10:24 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
i'm scared
they ate a lot of money
Lurking since 2006
by boyonthedock on Dec 15, 2009 11:10 AM CST up reply actions
i'd be happy to be, in this situation
Lurking since 2006
by boyonthedock on Dec 15, 2009 11:12 AM CST up reply actions
cuz pierre aint great and has a crazy contract
and they have better players in their outfield. i clearly don’t know much about this
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by boyonthedock on Dec 15, 2009 11:14 AM CST up reply actions
Dodgers are cutting money
Owners divorce situation, along with the fact he doesn’t have a spot on their roster, and the fact he is overpaid. The Sox won’t have to give up much, this is a salary dump as much as anything for the Dodgers.
by Grinder in Training on Dec 15, 2009 11:15 AM CST up reply actions
Stoney just said the toughest part of the deal was
deciding if Jamie or Frank was sending the cash.
by mick10 on Dec 15, 2009 11:26 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
LOL.
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
by winningugly on Dec 15, 2009 11:30 AM CST up reply actions
+1 for the stone pony
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by thatshortkid on Dec 15, 2009 11:55 AM CST up reply actions
Wow.
This does not bode well depending on who we gave up. At least we reunited Juan Pierre and Andruw. They played so well toget—- oh nevermind.
So does this make tCQ! the new DH?
Rotation.
Q is a natural right fielder, doesn’t really change anything.
Pierre, Rios, Q, Jones for four spots, shouldn’t be much of an issue. We had a hole to fill.
by Grinder in Training on Dec 15, 2009 10:26 AM CST up reply actions
My leadoff hitter is black
Beckham lets out a sigh of relief
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by Scotty Ballgame on Dec 15, 2009 10:20 AM CST via mobile reply actions
I would guess Andruw as DH
with a helping of Kong at DH with Kotsay playing 1B
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by Scotty Ballgame on Dec 15, 2009 10:28 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Yeah... lots of guys who can move around
I’d expect Kotsay, Jones, Q, Kong and god forbid Pierre all get some time there unless a DH is found on the real cheap.
by Grinder in Training on Dec 15, 2009 10:30 AM CST up reply actions
I wouldnt be shocked if they signed 1 more player
Vlad is out though. KW can be a smooth talker inhouse.
"Oh well back to work"
maybe it's a messy divorce special and hudson wasn't involved?
where’s WU when you need him?
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should we expect the quality of fielding observed in 2009 or 2008?
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by onlysoxfaninboston on Dec 15, 2009 10:27 AM CST reply actions
depends
Pierre was actually good in a sss for left last year. Of course his arm is shit but I hated Pods in the outfield period. If in shape Jones plays, its actually a nice late inning defense.
"Oh well back to work"
That is true
With Pierre, (hopefully) a sub 400lb Jones and Rios in the late innings, they will be catching everything hit past the dirt.
I'd say 2009.
It matches up more with his previous work and his numbers took a hit from playing LF. I’ll give him a mulligan on LF that year as it was his first year in left. It is an easier position, but it is a new position. I remember some drama that year surrounding him and Kemp and who got to play CF.
He's an above average LF. Rios is an good CF.
Remains to be seen what Q! can do in RF, but it can’t be as bad as JD. Definitely a boost to OF defense.
now being called
two players to be named later
http://twitter.com/dylanohernandez/status/6700473998
" Do you guys know people like you are the reason I wouldn’t come on for exstended periods of time. You rui the baseball blogging expieriance."
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT
who is dylan hernandez?
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by onlysoxfaninboston on Dec 15, 2009 10:35 AM CST up reply actions
i think he's a beat writer for the dodgers
link was from MLBTR
" Do you guys know people like you are the reason I wouldn’t come on for exstended periods of time. You rui the baseball blogging expieriance."
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT
thanks
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by onlysoxfaninboston on Dec 15, 2009 10:37 AM CST up reply actions
Divorce is a bitch, ask the Padres
by Grinder in Training on Dec 15, 2009 10:36 AM CST up reply actions
how's that going by the way?
" Do you guys know people like you are the reason I wouldn’t come on for exstended periods of time. You rui the baseball blogging expieriance."
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT
Ask WU x4?
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by Scotty Ballgame on Dec 15, 2009 10:40 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
12+ years now.
I don’t have that much mystery to yet be revealed.
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
Cool Name!
Fits right in with names like Nellie Fox, Minnie Minoso, Chico Carrasquel and Sherman Lollar.
By the way you have to be really old to remember crap like this.
"Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." - Mark Twain
More accurately, Ginger Beaumont and Harry Hooper.
Actual age 31 comps! Freal.
"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "
I don't think "Juan Pierre" is all that neat or exotic-sounding. It's just Juan. And Pierre. BFD.
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by homesickalien on Dec 15, 2009 11:57 AM CST up reply actions
Sounds french canadian to me....
I am now going to paint him with a beaver hat in a canoe, paddling down the chicago river singing “Aloutte, Jaunte Alouette”
There's Your Zagnut!!!
by DrEmilioLizardo on Dec 15, 2009 12:23 PM CST up reply actions
sounds like a
hair salon on Oak St.
by Air Raid Siren Stan on Dec 15, 2009 12:54 PM CST up reply actions
Dunno, I think
5 for 3 leaves Nix here. Teahan, Ramirez, Beckham, Vizquel, Nix. I don’t think Nix goes unless they get a 3b/SS/2b type.
pretty sure we're done now.
He’s at $100m with a backup catcher, reliever and arb eligible contracts now.
by mick10 on Dec 15, 2009 10:52 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
or they could go
with 11 pitchers.
by Off the bus running on Dec 15, 2009 10:43 AM CST up reply actions
Nice if true
Pierre will cost the White Sox $3 million in ‘10 and $5 milllion in ’11, with the Dodgers picking up $10.5 million of the last $18.5 m.
- Per Buster Olney
"Oh well back to work"
nice (for '10)
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by onlysoxfaninboston on Dec 15, 2009 10:39 AM CST up reply actions
not exactly bad in '11
with kong and aj coming off the books
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by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT
Wouldn't cripple us financially
As long as he plays to his average season, shouldn’t hurt us at least.
by Grinder in Training on Dec 15, 2009 10:44 AM CST up reply actions
Any chance that Kenny can tell them to keep money
and take Linebrink instead?
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by Scotty Ballgame on Dec 15, 2009 10:43 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
potential dh's
somebody has to be left standing when the music stops:
branyan
cust
vlad
nady
sheff
thome
delgado
glaus
dye
In order of likelihood of being signed...
Glaus, Thome and Cust are probably the top three. I’d be fine with any of the three, really — they just need to get another hitter in here.
I think the DH will Jones or Q
They are out of money to pay anyone else. Acquiring a DH via FA or trade would require shedding salary.
by hitlesswonder on Dec 15, 2009 11:08 AM CST up reply actions
Two things
a.) How do you know they’re “out of money”? I thought the same thing before the Pierre deal and then they added another $3 million.
b.) All of the above will likely cost no more than $5 million each. In fact, I wouldn’t doubt that the base salary of all three is lower than that.
Exactly..
These guys aren’t looking for 15 or even 10 million. I find it hard to believe if Jones doesn’t look good, they can’t find another 3 – 5 million for a one year contract for one of these guys.
by Grinder in Training on Dec 15, 2009 11:12 AM CST up reply actions
They will be close to $100M in the end now and I read that payroll this season was goibg to be $95M
Here’s the link
They may have to shed a salary just to afford Juan Pierre. I don’t think they can spend $5M on a DH.
Moreover each of the guys you list cannot play the field. And for some reason, the Sox are focused on getting a DH that can. I don’t think any of those guys end up on the Sox.
by hitlesswonder on Dec 15, 2009 11:21 AM CST up reply actions
The Sox have also been focused on Small Ball the last 5 years..
I’d take anything you read w/ a grain of salt.
by Grinder in Training on Dec 15, 2009 11:25 AM CST up reply actions
leadoff position and DH slots filled!
but seriously, my first reaction is i am ok with this. he always (the last few years at least) seemed to get more grief than other players for the things he doesn’t do. seems like a good guy to me. i’ll root for him.
the suck is not just a river in ireland.
His contract had something to do with it.
At half the price he’s not an awful guy to have.
by Grinder in Training on Dec 15, 2009 10:45 AM CST up reply actions
i dunno. i have all kinds of crazy reasons for disliking players
but the fact that they got signed for crazy money isn’t one of them. that’s when i ridicule the team that signed them.
the suck is not just a river in ireland.
Not saying you...
Plenty of people do though, and those are the people you are referring to who have given him grief. Players (unfairly sometimes) get held to the standard that is set by the amount they are paid. Fans expect the production the contract warrants.
Doesn’t make it right, but there are plenty of people out there that do this. If Pierre was making 4 million the last couple years people would have talked about him more positively. Just b/c you don’t fall into that group doesn’t make it not true.
by Grinder in Training on Dec 15, 2009 10:57 AM CST up reply actions
i know what you're saying.
i’m just saying it’s my perception that, regardless of his contract, he seems to have been criticized a lot.
like a lot of players, he is good at some things and not good at others. he is also terrible at some things and great at some things.
and some things he is average at. i think that covers it.
the suck is not just a river in ireland.
Beware: link does not open in new window
vince made that “Linebrick” photo….this guy didn’t give SSS credit for that photo, right? Just said, “photo that Sox bloggers have adopted”
Someone should set him straight.
There’s a picture (MSTI note: shown at right) that Sox bloggers have adopted of late that sums up the games better than any blog post could.
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by homesickalien on Dec 15, 2009 10:54 AM CST up reply actions
Looks like he's quoting The White Sox Blog.
EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine
by Sox Machine on Dec 15, 2009 10:55 AM CST up reply actions
He also indicated that SSS was a top blog site
Clearly has not done his research
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by Scotty Ballgame on Dec 15, 2009 11:00 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
I'm very okay with this.... he's kinda like Pods....but not Pods. And that is good.
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by homesickalien on Dec 15, 2009 10:45 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
love this trade!
i had manny on my fantasy team last year and when he went down with that 50 game suspension, pierre was a nice plug-in for me. and he’s black, lefty, and has some speed!
Walker better break out
the Rod Carew bunting tapes.
He’s got a major overhaul in front of him.
yuh-huh.
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by homesickalien on Dec 15, 2009 11:12 AM CST up reply actions
With them eating 10.5 mill ill take it. Only problem is when runners on 3rd start tagging on pop-ups to shallow left.
by Akronsoxfan on Dec 15, 2009 10:59 AM CST via mobile reply actions
we are pretty right handedededed in the middle of our order
12/12/07- We'll miss you Andy Gonzalez
Gentleman Masher disagrees.
I wouldn’t worry about it until the dust settles. Could still find himself back here pretty easily.
by Grinder in Training on Dec 15, 2009 11:09 AM CST up reply actions
Cowley said it won't happen and he's been pretty accurate
For some reason the Sox want a DH that can play the field. I think they got that guy in Jones.
by hitlesswonder on Dec 15, 2009 11:10 AM CST up reply actions
Well if Jones doesn't suck
I could care less what side of homeplate he stands on to hit. I think considering the low price of some of these DH’s, he’d have to show something in spring training to keep that job. It’ll work out either way. There will be guys available if he isn’t up to the task at low prices.
by Grinder in Training on Dec 15, 2009 11:11 AM CST up reply actions
"Well if Jones doesn't suck"
And what makes you think he won’t?
I'm not saying he won't
I’m saying in Spring Training, I’d assume the guys in charge can determine if he’s the Dodgers version, or the found his bat version. If he looks like he’ll be a disaster again, sign one of the many free agent DH’s available.
by Grinder in Training on Dec 15, 2009 11:16 AM CST up reply actions
KW specifically said jones was signed for the bench
that is a direct quote. so hopefully he wasn’t lying.
right now i don't care about what ozzie does.
we can worry about that april 5.
just threw up in my mouth
12/12/07- We'll miss you Andy Gonzalez
I don't see how anyone can be happy with Pierre and Jone filling the LF/DH spots
They are awful fits for an OBP challenged team.
Look at the bright side
no more Pods.
FifthFeather.com
by El Duque's Raft on Dec 15, 2009 11:08 AM CST up reply actions
agreed
it would be useless having that awful defense from last year behind such a promising pitching staff.
12/12/07- We'll miss you Andy Gonzalez
Kenny wants to keep his prospects it seems
shock of shocks.
Unless he is just saving them for a big bat.
Andruw's walk rate is alright, he just can't hit above the Mendoza
The world needs the Jedi now more than ever
Rather have had Gardner(who may or may not have been an option)
But this is a-ok assuming the PTNLs are not good.
Is this the refridgerator pictures thread?
"I like my DH like I like my women. Fat , slow and full of power."
by soxshenanigans
Nicely done, gus. And no, this is not that thread.
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by homesickalien on Dec 15, 2009 11:30 AM CST up reply actions
Love this move. Not paying him all that much and solves the Leadoff issue.
I would’ve liked this more about 5 years ago, but Juan put up a nice line last year and is still a pretty solid player. Good job Kenny.
well, the Sox certainly have changed things up for 2010
I like this trade, I don’t think losing the two PTBNL is going to hurt much. And the cash from the Dodgers is just enough to make this a good deal IMO.
I’m underwhelmed by Pierre’s talents, but hey, he’s better then what we had yesterday, and the outfield defense might actually be a strength of the team instead of a huge weakness.
possible lineup w/ OPS+ splits (RHP/LHP):
LF Pierre (102/95)
2B Beckham (92/120)
RF Quentin (106/86)
DH Cust L (108/78)
1B Konerko (95/115)
3B Teahen (104/90)
CF Rios (98/104)
SS Ramirez (85/142)
C Pierzynski (107/75)
Depending on how Jones shows up to ST, if he can still play the outfield why not play
LF- Pierre
CF- Rios
RF- Jones
DH- Q!
Scott Linebrink is on the White Sox.
The 2009 White Sox....like a 40 degree day.
by Ozzie Montana on Dec 15, 2009 1:42 PM CST up reply actions
< 724 runs of last year.
(3rd lowest in AL.)
ptbnl
11:31am: The Dodgers have officially announced the deal, according to Hernandez. Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports hears that John Ely and Jon Link are heading to the Dodgers.
from mlbtr via fox
12/12/07- We'll miss you Andy Gonzalez
Not really.
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
by winningugly on Dec 15, 2009 12:29 PM CST up reply actions
I don't know what to think about this.
I’m not worried about what we’ll give up. It won’t be much. But, I am worried whether we have money left for a guy that will give us a some more OPS. Pierre really doesn’t give us OBP or slugging. He’s gotta hit at least .300 to be worth anything.
Fortuantely he does usually come close to that.
Think about it. If, I mean when the Sox win the division next year and he hits .304. He will be hailed in radio land even though the staff had everything to do with it.
"Oh well back to work"
Pierre hits 300 with some regularity, so I'd say he'd have to hit 330 or 350 or 490 to be worth it
The world needs the Jedi now more than ever
They gave away nothing, and 9 million over 2 years isn't terrible.
It will be annoying to watch the same old offense though. Please sign a real DH Kenny.
The 2009 White Sox....like a 40 degree day.
Cameron weighs in on the Pierre acquisition
Seriously, dance in the streets. Build a bust of Pierre and place it on your mantle. Name your first born son Juan and your daughter Juanita. When this becomes official, hug someone. This trade is that good.
EDIT: I may have gotten the quote wrong..
His name is Rios and he dances on the sand
by Nordhagen on Dec 15, 2009 11:38 AM CST reply actions 6 recs
link doesnt open in new window fuckup ALERT
a million apologies….
His name is Rios and he dances on the sand
heehee!
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by homesickalien on Dec 15, 2009 11:43 AM CST up reply actions
whoosh?...Cameron...open the link.....
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by homesickalien on Dec 15, 2009 11:46 AM CST up reply actions
I don't know Jack M well enough to confirm sarcasm... hence the ? after the whoosh.
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by homesickalien on Dec 15, 2009 11:48 AM CST up reply actions
aww you mean it?
some sarcasm, but some good cheer. i’m the only sox fan amidst a bunch of tigers and cubs fans here :(
Cant wait for the inevitable "KENNY IS TEH ST00PID!!!1" circle jerk.
Kenny Williams, Juan Pierre, and Scott Podsednik are like dog whistles to certain sectors of baseball punditry.
Did someone link this stupidity yet?
KW seems to be hell-bent on decimating his farm system to try and just be competitive, which is another problem of his: he thinks his team is a LOT better than it is. Its perfectly sensible for a team who is a legit contender, such as the Phillies, to raid the farm to try and get someone like Lee, or even potentially Halladay. They are a great team already and need to make moves to become the best. The White Sox are basically the same boat as Houston, but with marginally better players. Both the Astros and White Sox really need to tear down everything and rebuild, but they wont out of some absurd notion that they might have a chance at the playoffs. A smart GM like Billy Beane sees his farm looking very poor after a lot of success and goes the rebuild route, KW and Ed Wade cannot see the forest from the trees and still live in 2005.
I knew KW was lacking intelligence when he put the World Series win on the shoulders of Scott Posednik, instead of his pitching staff which featured career years from every single pitcher on it. It was the pitching that won the it for Chicago, not its offense. KW never stopped praising his "grinders" which was infuriating to see. Him taking on the Rios contract was another giant blunder too, Peavy was an unnecessary acquisition as well, they had pretty good pitching to begin with.
Im not putting him in with Sabean, Wade or Moore yet, but Kenny Williams is certainly on the tier immediately under those guys, along with Omar Minaya.
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/sabean-strikes-back-non-tenders-ryan-garko/
The world needs the Jedi now more than ever
yikes
12/12/07- We'll miss you Andy Gonzalez
holy fuck. Does he even realize that we spent the majority of the 2009 season with 3 starting pitchers?
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by homesickalien on Dec 15, 2009 11:59 AM CST up reply actions
LOLLERSKATES
What a piece of trash that is.
I don’t even know where to begin, so I won’t even bother.
KW should NEVER be mentioned in comparison to Ed Wade
12/12/07- We'll miss you Andy Gonzalez
Did KW really
“put the World Series win on the shoulders of Scott Posednik [sic], instead of his pitching staff”? I don’t recall this.
I do agree that said staff “featured career years from every single pitcher on it” in ’05 and that had a lot to do with the championship.
The rest of this is horseshit, particularly the assertion that KW “decimates his farm system”.
I’m okay with the Pierre-for-low-cost-and-no-prospects-worth-mentioning despite the pus arm.
Best game I ever attended was the 163rd game last year.
by NorthSidePaulie on Dec 15, 2009 12:03 PM CST up reply actions
I agree with him
This team is no where near being a legitimate contender. Trading away young, cheap mediocre players for slightly less mediocre, old, more expensive players is ridiculous at this point.
if !(whoosh)
then
I have to disagree
Starting pitching in 2010 good enough to go deep in playoffs
Experienced major league defense and offensive flexibility will be key
endif
Best game I ever attended was the 163rd game last year.
by NorthSidePaulie on Dec 15, 2009 12:08 PM CST up reply actions
And okay, the bullpen too
What’s the prognosis on Putz’s Chips?
Best game I ever attended was the 163rd game last year.
by NorthSidePaulie on Dec 15, 2009 12:09 PM CST up reply actions
I'd rather an offense that can score than a flexible one
Unless we get as lucky as we did in 2005, we are going to be losing a lot of 3-2 games
vb? really?
These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.
by thatshortkid on Dec 15, 2009 12:11 PM CST up reply actions
Absolutely not
…pseudocode
Best game I ever attended was the 163rd game last year.
by NorthSidePaulie on Dec 15, 2009 12:11 PM CST up reply actions
phew. i found the lack of squiggly brackets disturbing.
These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.
by thatshortkid on Dec 15, 2009 12:37 PM CST up reply actions
What's wrong with vb?
Its ease of use and wonderful ‘on error, resume next’ flooded the market with substandard programmers and substandard code.
Heh, at least its not fortran.
My biggest issue
is that I would rather have the cash spent on Teahan, Vizquel and Pierre spent on one impact player than those players
by joewho112 on Dec 15, 2009 12:11 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I think that's a great point.
I’ll take Matsui as DH over those 3 guys for 2010. I think buying up a bucnh of bad players instead of one good player is clearly a mistake.
by hitlesswonder on Dec 15, 2009 12:14 PM CST up reply actions
Sort of agree
…on Teahan.
I think Vizquel provides nifty IF depth and + defense. And Pierre == Pods with better defense.
Best game I ever attended was the 163rd game last year.
by NorthSidePaulie on Dec 15, 2009 12:14 PM CST up reply actions
Here's a comparison
Matsui, Jones and Getz starting with Nix on the bench versus Pierre, Jones, and Teahen with Omar on the bench. I’ll take the first option.
by hitlesswonder on Dec 15, 2009 12:17 PM CST up reply actions
also, the first option involves one or both of Jones and Matsui in the outfield on a regular basis... not happening
Also, I take the second option
by Daniel Berlyn on Dec 15, 2009 4:58 PM CST up reply actions
Getz and Pierre roughly a wash
Like the actuals and intangibles of Omar on the bench, I (unlike some) won’t miss Nix all that much.
And I already conceded that Teahan doesn’t excite me (although he’s back-loaded so isn’t $costly in 2010).
Best game I ever attended was the 163rd game last year.
by NorthSidePaulie on Dec 15, 2009 12:32 PM CST up reply actions
LOL.
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
by winningugly on Dec 15, 2009 12:36 PM CST up reply actions
Agree
The fact that the Sox didn’t sign Bay and Holiday with the Teahan, Vizquel, and Pierre money pisses me off.
I don't think they could have afforded both
or either, even without the money spent on the players mentioned. You’re acting like these players and the DH-less regime have no positives.
by Daniel Berlyn on Dec 15, 2009 5:02 PM CST up reply actions
It looks like he may still be capable of playing some CF....
just looking for positives…..unless the little he played last year(and pretty badly) is an indication he’s lost it in a hurry. Probably not.
if Rios is so bad that we have to start Scrappy McGrinder Pierre in CF we are fucked.
Let’s hope Rios manages an 720 OPS this year.
Well....
it would be comforting if you could reasonably play him in center occasionally or more……christ, you’d think that had to play SOME part in deciding to actually acquire him. It certainly fucking should.
I like this
Only problem is I remember liking what Kenny did last year and look how that turned out.
"Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." - Mark Twain
yea the guy complainting about DSL, Sweeney and Gio
It sucked giving Swisher away for nothing, but “losing out” on Sweeney, DSL and Gio isn’t exactly franchise crippling.
In fact, Oakland will probably end up giving away Swisher for a 4th outfielder, a guy that never makes it to the bigs because of injuries, and a guy that might one day be a competent 4th or 5th starter for cheap.
Not exactly a great haul for the great Billy Beane either.
What do I see when I first check my email today? That's right, the Sox acquired Juan fucking Pierre. Horseshit.
Today is just not off to a good start. I might as well start drinking now ;)
FUCK EVYTHING BACON RULZ WEER GONNA WIN TEH CHAMPSHIOP
...colintj, Nov8, 2009
I, too, have been asked by Tyler Johnson to contact Tyler Johnson
Plus:
Pierre also ranks first among active players with 165 bunt hits (Vizquel is second with 150)
We got bunt hitters!
signature
2010 will be buntastic!!
Bunting = championship!
by hitlesswonder on Dec 15, 2009 12:19 PM CST up reply actions
F.U.N.-damentals!
There's Your Zagnut!!!
by DrEmilioLizardo on Dec 15, 2009 12:56 PM CST up reply actions
and thats why I wont be renewing my ticket package.
well that and the fact that I have a kid now.
oh, and the Teehans extension bugs me.
"I like my DH like I like my women. Fat , slow and full of power."
by soxshenanigans
I know we're going to be somewhat power challenged
but somehow having players who can bunt makes me happier than the last few seasons when we seemed to have nobody who could try without utter failure.
Best game I ever attended was the 163rd game last year.
by NorthSidePaulie on Dec 15, 2009 12:22 PM CST up reply actions
From SBN's Dodger site:
During his time with the Dodgers, Juan Pierre has been a good Dodger if not the most productive one. For one month he gave us the unforeseen Beast Mode but most of the time he did exactly what he’d always done. He played hard, he stole bases, he ran the bases extremely well, was rarely hurt, hit for some average, didn’t get on base at a very high clip, didn’t have much of an arm, didn’t play center field very well given his speed. He was exactly as advertised, the only problem with that is that he was paid much to much for what he did.
His value has always been right about 1/2 of the contract the Dodgers gave him. The Dodgers will continue to pay for that mistake this year and next but the White Sox will be getting a fairly valued Left Fielder.
I wish Juan Pierre nothing but good will as he can now begin his quest again for 2,000 hits. \
"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "
"he ran the bases extremely well"
Okay changing from Pierre == Pods + defense to Pierre > Pods
Best game I ever attended was the 163rd game last year.
by NorthSidePaulie on Dec 15, 2009 12:18 PM CST up reply actions
Ok I'm calling BS on this psuedo-code
Two comparison operators and an arithmetic operator? What is it supposed to mean?
Is it not understandable?
It doesn’t have to run
Best game I ever attended was the 163rd game last year.
by NorthSidePaulie on Dec 15, 2009 12:23 PM CST up reply actions
im debugging int now
12/12/07- We'll miss you Andy Gonzalez
int = it
12/12/07- We'll miss you Andy Gonzalez
Don't need strong int typing
And nothing to iterate over.
Best game I ever attended was the 163rd game last year.
by NorthSidePaulie on Dec 15, 2009 12:27 PM CST up reply actions
if ((pierre + LF) > (pods + LF)) { pierre != CF}
12/12/07- We'll miss you Andy Gonzalez
whitesoxleftfielder = mlbplayers.ladodgers.first(c => c.lastname == "pierre");
12/12/07- We'll miss you Andy Gonzalez
You can't leave the arrow operator dangling
that won’t compile or run as you need a right hand side to the arrow. I suggest ‘cheese’.
Rereading it... I think I understand what you were going for now
I thought “defense to Pierre” was one variable.
I understood that whole section
gotta love being an engineer
-Jeeves Life in the Cell
And the Nerd Detector goes apeshit!!
There's Your Zagnut!!!
by DrEmilioLizardo on Dec 15, 2009 11:47 PM CST up reply actions
well that's easy, just need to adjust the limiter thresholds in the Nerd Detection circuits.
These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.
by thatshortkid on Dec 16, 2009 1:10 PM CST up reply actions
rotoworld....i sure hope not
White Sox acquired outfielder Juan Pierre from the Dodgers for two players to be named later.
Pierre will play center field for the White Sox in 2010 and should bat near the top of their OBP-deficient lineup. He hit a respectable .308/.365/.392 this past season with 16 doubles, eight triples, 30 stolen bases and 31 RBI in 380 at-bats and has typically played solid defense.
12/12/07- We'll miss you Andy Gonzalez
I wouldn't be surprised to see Jones-Pierre-Rios forming the worst OF in baseball next season
with Q DHing.
It would not be shocking.
by hitlesswonder on Dec 15, 2009 12:20 PM CST up reply actions
It would certainly lead the league in surrendering to Germany.
Jones (Dutch) – Pierre (French) – Rios (Belgian)*
(* – assumes that Puerto Rico is part of Belgium, which may not, in fact, be true).
by The Actual El Guapo on Dec 15, 2009 12:30 PM CST up reply actions 7 recs
Just did -- "awesome" and "glorious" are too weak to describe it.
I’ll have to look through that whole thread at some point — some seriously brilliant work in there just scrolling through.
by The Actual El Guapo on Dec 15, 2009 12:37 PM CST up reply actions
I'm sorry, have we met?
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
by winningugly on Dec 15, 2009 12:32 PM CST up reply actions
rec'd for the appearance. You are missed.
Not picky, but very sticky....
by homesickalien on Dec 15, 2009 12:35 PM CST up reply actions
White collar crime is a beeyatch.
TAEG rubbong elbows with Madoff.
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
by winningugly on Dec 15, 2009 12:38 PM CST up reply actions
If you rub a bong, does a chronic-smokin' genie appear?
Not picky, but very sticky....
by homesickalien on Dec 15, 2009 12:39 PM CST up reply actions
unfortunately no. Unless you got some really really good shit in the bong. But the genie doesn’t grant wishes, just makes you want to eat doritos.
Speaking of! I just discovered my new favorite flavor Doritos (and I LOVE Doritos): Late Night Tacos
Also contending: the combo bag containing Pizza Lovers and Ranch
Not picky, but very sticky....
by homesickalien on Dec 15, 2009 12:58 PM CST up reply actions
I've yet to try Late Night Taco
Didn’t know it existed. I’m usually pretty up to date on Dorito news too. And I agree the Pizza/Ranch combo bag is phenomenal.
I just saw them for the first time 2 weeks ago, and Late Night Taco Doritos have changed my life. :) Run - don't walk - to get a bag.
haha
Not picky, but very sticky....
by homesickalien on Dec 15, 2009 1:26 PM CST up reply actions
Bastard beat me 4 games to 2 in the Cellblock 4-E Connect-Four championship.
Got me with a diagonal move. Pretty sneaky, sis.
by The Actual El Guapo on Dec 15, 2009 12:42 PM CST up reply actions
hitless
you crack me up. You were convinced in October that Pods would be the starting DH and centerfielder. Now, you won’t be shocked if Pierre is the starting CF’er next year based on a throwaway sentence from rotoworld. Keep the laughs coming.
FifthFeather.com
by El Duque's Raft on Dec 15, 2009 12:57 PM CST up reply actions
I reject the notion that the acquisistion of Juan Pierre proves I was overly pessimistic about personnel moves
It’s not like Pierre is a big upgrade over Pods
by hitlesswonder on Dec 15, 2009 3:30 PM CST up reply actions
I hear Juan is a pretty good rapper!
"I don’t know how you guys measure worth…but I do know you idiots need a graph to show you that Josh Fields sucks…"
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 15, 2009 12:21 PM CST via mobile reply actions
danks can fish
" Do you guys know people like you are the reason I wouldn’t come on for exstended periods of time. You rui the baseball blogging expieriance."
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT
do we actually lead the league in rednecks
or does it just seem that way?
our team could outsurvive any team if there were an apocalypse
" Do you guys know people like you are the reason I wouldn’t come on for exstended periods of time. You rui the baseball blogging expieriance."
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT
We are a bunch of Grindy Survivalists....
and Jenks would eat Southpaw in a heartbeat if push came to shove…. or a bottle of tabasco came by.
There's Your Zagnut!!!
by DrEmilioLizardo on Dec 15, 2009 11:42 PM CST up reply actions
Wasn't going to be the north side team...
Best game I ever attended was the 163rd game last year.
by NorthSidePaulie on Dec 15, 2009 12:49 PM CST up reply actions
Considering that...
the Sox don’t have any sort of system in Latin America, yeah. It’s a team of white guys from the South, two token black guys, and Cubans.
Is this James Watt?
Throw in a cripple and you’ve got an exact quote.
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
by winningugly on Dec 15, 2009 3:32 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
LOL-lygagging.... wrecked.
There's Your Zagnut!!!
by DrEmilioLizardo on Dec 15, 2009 11:41 PM CST up reply actions
OPOS,
or you know way too much political history.
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
Horrible combination of both...
How about a Teapot Dome joke next time? Or, Seward’s Folly? Tammany Hall?
There's Your Zagnut!!!
by DrEmilioLizardo on Dec 17, 2009 4:36 PM CST up reply actions
white sox: rednecks
::redsox:generic white guys
-Jeeves Life in the Cell
by jeeves on Dec 15, 2009 9:01 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
ha, too true, too true... I recommend this comment.
Not picky, but very sticky....
by homesickalien on Dec 16, 2009 10:22 AM CST up reply actions
Asian carp.
I see the Chicago skyline in the horizon.
from the yahoo sports blurb
“Pierre was on 2003 Florida Marlins team that won the World Series. White Sox manager Ozzie Guillen was the third base coach on that club.”
Interesting? A little chemistry perhaps?
Think this trade will work out
Price is nice too..
Alright back to more damn DCFS training, at a Mental Institution as well
"at a Mental Institution as well"
Shouldn’t be too shocking of a shift then
Best game I ever attended was the 163rd game last year.
by NorthSidePaulie on Dec 15, 2009 12:52 PM CST up reply actions
reply fail - I bet
I’ve heard some horror stories from friends who have worked that at one time or another. Good luck!
are they training you to play hockey and fight in the basement of the Elsinore Brewery?
His name is Rios and he dances on the sand
I bet
I’ve heard some horror stories from friends who have worked that at one time or another. Good luck!
Pierre was great filling in for manny last season
Never thought that much about him, but he kept the dodgers in the hunt, and i saw that first-hand.
And he doesn't get picked off bases or run into stupid outs right? Right?
"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "
For the team - I'd say that's a safe number to go with.
"ass hole thi is the same line up whit leftys you idiot"
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