Kenny Always Gets His Man
by larry on Dec 15, 2009 1:26 PM CST
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I found myself with a little time to kill before taking off on another jet plane and, conveniently, the White Sox decide to make a move. So no complaining about a lack of analysis from the editors. hoodlight.
First the particulars: the White Sox receive Juan Pierre from the Dodgers, along with $10.5 million, and send John Ely and Jon Link back. The payroll hit for Pierre shakes out as $3 million in 2010 and $5 million in 2011.
What the White Sox are sending west isn't anything to be concerned about. John Ely, who spent all of last year at AA Birmingham, is a soft-tossing, finesse pitcher. But he's right-handed so guess how that usually works out. John Sickels ranked him as the 14th best prospect in the club's shallow system. And Phil Rogers loves him. I consider him irrelevant. Jon Link, who spent all of last season in AAA Charlotte, has, as I've mentioned before, a high K rate but also a high BB rate. Perhaps he'll figure it out but I'd essentially given up hope on that.
Now for what the White Sox get. First, they get someone to fill the high socks void recently vacated by D.J. Carrasco. They also get someone who looks like a Leadoff Hitter to fill the Leadoff Position. They also get someone who isn't very good at major league baseball. He shouldn't play CF anymore and, with Alex Rios in the fold, hopefully Ozzie won't get any ideas. He can still cover ground in LF and his arm that makes 12 year old girls laugh isn't as much of an issue there. He's probably an average, perhaps slightly above average, defender if used properly. Unfortunately, he gives up any gain there on offense. He's projected for a wOBA of about .310 next season by Bill James, well below the league average benchmark of .330. That's almost 10 runs below average. Of course, one can point to his .338 last season and, except for 2008, recent numbers higher than .310 to argue that projection is a little low. On the other hand, he's 32 and certainly in his decline, a particularly dangerous place for a slap hitter who relies on speed, and his last five seasons look like this: .338, .308, .317, .319, and .309. Throw out that outlier 2009 and that .310 looks about right.
All that said, the overall price, both in terms of dollars and players, is low. Even if Pierre hits that low projection, he'll probably be worth the salary he's being paid (and whatever value you want to ascribe to the fringe prospects). And, while based on actual offensive acumen he should be about the second to last player to be considered for the Leadoff Position (thanks Omar!), his mere presence will at least prevent the usual hand-wringing over that perceived void. Of course, if the $8 million commitment prevents the acquisition of a player with some real offensive value and/or Ozzie decides to play Pierre in CF because "he real fast", this could turn out badly.
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"Uppercutting"
the ball to the outfield grass right bebind the 2nd baseman.
He may not be that good when compared to other baseball players
But how does he stack up when compared to other Sox Leadoff Hitters in the Leadoff Position™
Is he Pods ’05? Pods ’06? Pods ’07? Owens? Swish? Cabrera? Wise? Pods ’09?
Somewhere below Johnstown Flood '89, but above Permian Extinction '-254,400,000.
by The Actual El Guapo on Dec 15, 2009 1:46 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Think Vesuvius... bad for the locals, but good for the grapes.
There's Your Zagnut!!!
by DrEmilioLizardo on Dec 15, 2009 2:28 PM CST up reply actions
Rec'd for impressive hitorical references
Picking not just any extinction, but the worst one.
by hitlesswonder on Dec 15, 2009 3:33 PM CST up reply actions
Last 2 tardes:
1. We get 1, they get 2.
2. We get 1, they get 2.
Big losers.
we only count major leaguers, silly
swings it the other way… BIG WINNERS!!!
Twitter: @SouthSideCheat
SouthSideSox on Facebook
Fuck you,
major league is not included in the purest form of The Rogers’ Principle. Toss in the Peavy trade and……………………..
Williams has gotta be the worst GM in baseball.
woooooooooooooooosh
See, this is what happens when the Sox bunt.
Discord is sown. Brother fights brother. Misunderstandings abound.
-TAEG
yeah i hit "post"
and then said to myself, “oh, he’s joking.”
Absolutely
In a related matter, would you like to trade me a quarter for my 2 dimes? You will be getting 2 coins to my 1! What a deal for you!
why are you guys are so negitive?
Juan Pierre has a ring, is a hustler,i know his name.
when Juan Pierre steals home to win the world series over the cubs in game 7 on the southside im sure your views will change
YOU CAN PUT IT ON THE BOARD YES!
www.reverbnation.com/czheckproductions
'i know his name.'
too funny.
"I like my DH like I like my women. Fat , slow and full of power."
by soxshenanigans
pass de dutchie pon de lef'and side
These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.
by thatshortkid on Dec 15, 2009 1:56 PM CST up reply actions
Laf
John Sickels ranked him as the 14th best prospect in the club’s shallow system. And Phil Rogers loves him. I consider him irrelevant.
The world needs the Jedi now more than ever
Jeez...
I wish we could get good baseball players instead of sucky ones.
Your offense is only as good as your bullpen.
by defensive indifference on Dec 15, 2009 1:56 PM CST reply actions
i'm not a smelly guy...
so i scratch my finger across the fabric. if it leaves a mark, it needs cleaning.
"This shirt is dry-clean only..."
“…which means it’s dirty.”
EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine
/pours out some emergen-c for Mitch.
Not picky, but very sticky....
by homesickalien on Dec 15, 2009 2:05 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
do you have three settings?
bird law in this country is not ruled by reason
by soxshenanigans on Dec 15, 2009 9:31 PM CST up reply actions
wow, much more negative than I thought
Im pretty excited about this. Solves leadoff and OF for us. (Move Q to right)
See, this is what happens when the Sox bunt.
Discord is sown. Brother fights brother. Misunderstandings abound.
-TAEG
Technically, it does solve the problems, or questions
And there is an implied notion of ‘solving the problem well’ it is not directly stated. Much as saying ‘5’ solves the problem ‘2 + 2’.
I’m in favor of this deal. We give up some outs with him in the lineup, but I have a high opinion of Pierre’s D.
But replacing with a "moron" is better.
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
Christina
unfortunately not Hendricks
Christina Kahrl: Talk about trying to lower standards in the game’s low-standards division. Maybe this is a sop to Ozzie to let him play Ozzieball with one spot on the roster, but $10.5 million for Pierre plus the commitment to then stick Rios in right… yeah, I’m not wild about it. We know he won’t get on base. We know he’ll still bases at a merely adequate rate of success. We know he’s uniquely unqualified to take advantage of hitting in the Cell. What we don’t know is how much defensive value he has as an everday center fielder, because he’s got, what, 200 innings or so there over the last two seasons. He was an asset there for the Cubs in 2006 and for the Dodgers in 2007, but is it enough to put up with the rest, and when that means you’re also stuck with Rios’s offensive contributions in right? It may not cost them the division, but it won’t do all that much to help them win it either. The question of the expense is, for me, more a matter of what they don’t get to spend it on. Here’s hoping they do still at least get a DH on a one-year deal to help produce baserunners and boppery.
Why is Rios "committed" to RF in her imagination?
Not picky, but very sticky....
by homesickalien on Dec 15, 2009 2:08 PM CST up reply actions
not too bad looking either
would be very confusing….normally i concentrate on baseball to maintain an erection.
Not gay if Christina's undergone hormonal and physical, er, alterations...right? How does that work exactly?
Not picky, but very sticky....
by homesickalien on Dec 15, 2009 2:36 PM CST up reply actions
oh, I don't know all the intimate details. As it should be.
Not picky, but very sticky....
by homesickalien on Dec 15, 2009 2:51 PM CST up reply actions
Between the "still" and "everday," I choose not to actually put value or more thought into her opinion. Nitpicky? Maybe.
Not picky, but very sticky....
by homesickalien on Dec 15, 2009 2:11 PM CST up reply actions
puh-lease. I very rarely mis-type. Especially given the rate at which I post.
Not picky, but very sticky....
by homesickalien on Dec 15, 2009 2:13 PM CST up reply actions
My angry rant of a post? Boy, that's a good example. Odd that you chose to read only that one, and not the thousands of immaculate others.
Not picky, but very sticky....
by homesickalien on Dec 15, 2009 2:18 PM CST up reply actions
your posts are generally horseshit. why waste time.
by larry on Dec 15, 2009 2:18 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
You've wasted an awful lot of it here. Way to be a highly-selective and elite time-waster.
Not picky, but very sticky....
by homesickalien on Dec 15, 2009 2:20 PM CST up reply actions
I hang on your every word.
Not picky, but very sticky....
by homesickalien on Dec 15, 2009 2:24 PM CST up reply actions
if you want your posts read, don't set your privacy settings so damn stringent.
These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.
by thatshortkid on Dec 15, 2009 3:46 PM CST up reply actions
you're*
"I don’t know how you guys measure worth…but I do know you idiots need a graph to show you that Josh Fields sucks…"
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 15, 2009 3:00 PM CST up reply actions
Hey, no shit.
Not picky, but very sticky....
by homesickalien on Dec 15, 2009 3:01 PM CST up reply actions
go take a midol and get off my case!
"I don’t know how you guys measure worth…but I do know you idiots need a graph to show you that Josh Fields sucks…"
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 15, 2009 3:01 PM CST up reply actions
All the Midol in the world wouldn't make you tolerable.
Not picky, but very sticky....
by homesickalien on Dec 15, 2009 3:09 PM CST up reply actions
don't get mad at me because you have been getting
repeatedly ridiculed by larry today. aka PWNED.
"I don’t know how you guys measure worth…but I do know you idiots need a graph to show you that Josh Fields sucks…"
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 15, 2009 3:11 PM CST up reply actions
I assure you that my disdain for you is unrelated to anyone but you.
Not picky, but very sticky....
by homesickalien on Dec 15, 2009 3:21 PM CST up reply actions
HOORAY THEY'RE BRINGING BACK THE TROUGHS, FUCK MILTON BRADLEY.
There you go.
The 2009 White Sox....like a 40 degree day.
by Ozzie Montana on Dec 15, 2009 3:31 PM CST up reply actions
don't look now, but apparently "rofl" is attempting to make a comeback.
These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.
by thatshortkid on Dec 15, 2009 3:47 PM CST up reply actions
ROFLcoptor technology has ensured a long life to ROFL
But “pwned” is a term invented by people who consider boogers a food group and toenail eating a form of gymnastics, and I’m just not down with that
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Pwned has a pretty interesting definition on urbandictionary
Albeit it still sounds retarded
Meanwhile:
The world needs the Jedi now more than ever
nitsticky? you bet.
These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.
by thatshortkid on Dec 15, 2009 2:16 PM CST up reply actions
It wasn't a post
it was a response in a chat. A lengthy response at that.
by Off the bus running on Dec 15, 2009 3:03 PM CST up reply actions
ah. That makes a difference then. I wouldn't know that since I don't have that link accessible.
Not picky, but very sticky....
by homesickalien on Dec 15, 2009 3:04 PM CST up reply actions
1
"I don’t know how you guys measure worth…but I do know you idiots need a graph to show you that Josh Fields sucks…"
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 15, 2009 3:08 PM CST up reply actions
I just said I wasn't going to give the opinion any more time because I was already put off by the "Rios in RF" absolutes, and then the typos...
Not like hoodie’s blurb had any context. At least not for non-subscribers.
Not picky, but very sticky....
by homesickalien on Dec 15, 2009 3:18 PM CST up reply actions
Why are you trying to provoke me so?
Not picky, but very sticky....
by homesickalien on Dec 15, 2009 3:21 PM CST up reply actions
and here i thought people missed it when i ripped on those who posted stupid and/or ill-formed opinions.
by larry on Dec 15, 2009 3:23 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
i assume they don't want you to chase away the pussy
2009 is just 2007 in 2008's clothing. - Trooper
who cares?
"I don’t know how you guys measure worth…but I do know you idiots need a graph to show you that Josh Fields sucks…"
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 15, 2009 5:38 PM CST up reply actions
Then please link it next time, as is done for most quotes.
Not picky, but very sticky....
by homesickalien on Dec 15, 2009 3:24 PM CST up reply actions
shit, bitches always riding your ass.
i liked it better when there were no women on this board. i get enough of it at home.
I forgot
when these kind of message blogs first started you had the facility to edit your post: – I would often say somthing obvious like " do you think we sill finish above the Royals yes or no? " wait for all the affirmitave answers to pile up, and then re edit the question to something like " who suffers from haemorrhoids? "
remember all those people who said there was "no way" griffey would play center.
how many times are you going to fall for it?
Disagree. Ozzie may make the lineups, but Kenny's influence is still present. In my worthless and hopeful opinion, no way Kenny allows Pierre to man center.
Not picky, but very sticky....
by homesickalien on Dec 15, 2009 2:34 PM CST up reply actions
As someone who often enjoys playing the "KGJ in CF" card, I completely understand the fear and possibility of this.
Post-Rios acquisition, Pods only really played CF when Rios or Dye needed a seat, right?
I guess I’ll just choose to think that they won’t be “that stupid” until I actually see Pierre in CF on Opening Day.
I know they’ve put some terrible guys out there in recent years, but Kenny just paid the big bucks for Rios. I can’t see him letting that salary go to “waste” in a corner.
Not picky, but very sticky....
by homesickalien on Dec 15, 2009 2:47 PM CST up reply actions
agree.
the only way pierre plays center is if rios is not playing. they have a sound bite from kenny on the radio saying “he is our left fielder.” i disbelieve any other possibility.
the suck is not just a river in ireland.
Ozzie will have Pierre in CF. It's destiny. It's the Curse of Rowand. It's the Sox Position of Suck.
by hitlesswonder on Dec 15, 2009 3:37 PM CST up reply actions
Rec
Though realistically Rowand is their 2nd best hitter! I’d say they have the curse of Bonds.
The world needs the Jedi now more than ever
curse of Sabean
everyone knows this.
Lurking since 2006
by boyonthedock on Dec 15, 2009 7:08 PM CST up reply actions
The possibility exists, but that doesn't "commit" anything in my mind. Especially not for what we're paying Rios to play CF.
Not picky, but very sticky....
by homesickalien on Dec 15, 2009 2:15 PM CST up reply actions
so larry is Lucy and hsa is Charlie Brown?
See, this is what happens when the Sox bunt.
Discord is sown. Brother fights brother. Misunderstandings abound.
-TAEG
Get on your fucking plane, put your computer away
and don’t remind us of debacles of days gone by.
John Meriwether has just opened his 3rd hedge fund,
and this guy almost blew up the world in ’98. Never underestimate…
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
...the stupidity of the human race
did I get it right?
FUCK EVYTHING BACON RULZ WEER GONNA WIN TEH CHAMPSHIOP
...colintj, Nov8, 2009
Nice.
I know there is an employer out there who wants to leverage your knowledge.
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
indeed there is!
or at least it’s looking that way.
FUCK EVYTHING BACON RULZ WEER GONNA WIN TEH CHAMPSHIOP
...colintj, Nov8, 2009
BIG smile.
Let me know, please. I light candles for you. At least this week.
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
you know, bernsie on 'SCR had a pretty good analysis..
look at the lineup. add up the homers. there aren’t enough.
I love Boers and Bernstein
Not to many fans of the show on here… Most of it is for entertainment (show is funny) but they have some good discussions from time to time
anyone know what time stone came on Danny Mac to discuss the trade?
I thought it was 11 or so
Every good port begins with a slut.
- homesickalien
by Scotty Ballgame on Dec 15, 2009 9:43 PM CST up reply actions
I agree with that.
but boers and bernstein are fucking jagbags. I don’t know if you were listening around eh 430ish today…. they were saying that they didn’t think jay cutler was going to elevate the bears.. jesus christ. back when the bears made that trade their gay asses were going on and on and on and on how much better they are because they have a real QB blah blah blah…. I can’t stand those 2. that being said…. we need more homers.
Kenwo4life=ratings
yah
Don’t like don’t hate. Going from JD to JP will be about a 25-30 run improvement in defense. The loss of offense should be less than that. The OF should be much more productive than last year (offense and defense included). We really should lead the league (and maybe even all of MLB) in ERA+.
Where I'm going, you can't follow. What I've got to do, you can't be any part of.
It's the '05 formula (sacrifice offense for defense in the OF), but that team hit 200 homers.
Hard to see that coming from this year’s team.
by The Actual El Guapo on Dec 15, 2009 2:25 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah this
team ain’t winnin’ 99 games. But 87 might be enough.
Where I'm going, you can't follow. What I've got to do, you can't be any part of.
Rest of em: AJ: 10; Teahen: 15; Vizquel: 53; others: 2.
by The Actual El Guapo on Dec 15, 2009 2:43 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Thome: ___
Not picky, but very sticky....
by homesickalien on Dec 15, 2009 2:48 PM CST up reply actions
no.
"I don’t know how you guys measure worth…but I do know you idiots need a graph to show you that Josh Fields sucks…"
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 15, 2009 3:09 PM CST up reply actions
and everyone will be from the leadoff position
Ricky Henderson is watching his back
See, this is what happens when the Sox bunt.
Discord is sown. Brother fights brother. Misunderstandings abound.
-TAEG
Thome 30
10 each for the rest
See, this is what happens when the Sox bunt.
Discord is sown. Brother fights brother. Misunderstandings abound.
-TAEG
Clueful
I certainly don’t think Dave is wrong, he’s one of the most clueful analysts around.
The world needs the Jedi now more than ever
He's got some budget and he's sticking to it.
Some teams get Holliday, Cameron, Bay, Matsui, etal.
We get Pierre, Jones, Vizquel.
2009 is just 2007 in 2008's clothing. - Trooper
by colintj on Dec 15, 2009 2:29 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
I'll fuck you in the ass Saturday....
Not picky, but very sticky....
by homesickalien on Dec 15, 2009 2:49 PM CST up reply actions
Apparently, in the future, all right-fielders will have only one arm.
And Sox fans will be noseless.
by The Actual El Guapo on Dec 15, 2009 2:35 PM CST up reply actions
why is there a fencer playing first? and why is first base halfway to second?
these new rules intrigue me
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by billyok on Dec 15, 2009 2:35 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
Am I the only one that sees that as the view from right center?
Clearly the fencer is covering second base!
Reporter: I was wondering if at any point in my lifetime the Cubs weren't going to be run by a guy who didn't immediately remind me of failure, confusion, or imminent death
I was just recalling the furry fire truck the other day...I haven't seen that site in at least 5 years....thanks!
Not picky, but very sticky....
by homesickalien on Dec 16, 2009 9:07 AM CST up reply actions
That was funny. Thanks!
FUCK EVYTHING BACON RULZ WEER GONNA WIN TEH CHAMPSHIOP
...colintj, Nov8, 2009
nip/tuck?
"I don’t know how you guys measure worth…but I do know you idiots need a graph to show you that Josh Fields sucks…"
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 15, 2009 3:14 PM CST up reply actions
If you're suggesting we get Jones some liposuction..
Then I’d say you’re on to something.
by Grinder in Training on Dec 15, 2009 3:26 PM CST up reply actions
I think we get him some bat speed.
I could care how he looks. Tony Gwynn was a fatball and he continued to hit.
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
I figured it'd help his confidence
If he didn’t look like a fat monster.. I figure get the lipo, hit the town with BA, get his self esteem back, and the swing will follow.
by Grinder in Training on Dec 15, 2009 3:53 PM CST up reply actions
I have some good news for you from one of my financial sites:
Drink, drive, crack up the car…and write off the damage on your tax return. For one taxpayer, that scenario became reality after he appealed a decision by the Internal Revenue Service.
The U.S. Tax Court last week allowed the driver of a car to write off thousands of dollars of damage after he totaled it while under the influence.
http://www.fa-mag.com/fa-news/4910-tax-court-lets-dui-driver-write-off-car-damage.html
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
CHONE:
OFF: -11/150
DEF: +6/150
POS: RF/LF
RAR150: 7.5
2009 is just 2007 in 2008's clothing. - Trooper
What's Figgins but a second-hand emotion?
by The Actual El Guapo on Dec 15, 2009 2:47 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
who needs a Juan when a Juan cant hit homers?
"I like my DH like I like my women. Fat , slow and full of power."
by soxshenanigans
by e-gus on Dec 15, 2009 2:51 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
I am stepping outside the thunderdome for a smoke...
Let me know when two men enter.
There's Your Zagnut!!!
by DrEmilioLizardo on Dec 15, 2009 3:15 PM CST up reply actions
10 RAR = 1 WAR, depending on what arbitrary value you give WAR (3-4) could be 2.25 to 3 million
Haha, arbitrary
The world needs the Jedi now more than ever
Holy Shit Batman!
Not Omar Vizquel, but the Omar Vizquel
Not Andruw Jones, but the Andruw Jones
Not Juan Pierre, but the Juan Pierre
Is the Darin Erstad still an untouchable for the Astros?
No animals were harmed during the making of this comment.
My first thought when I heard about this was Erstad '07.
Pierre OPS ages 31-27: .757, .655, .685, 717, .680.
Erstad OPS ages 31-27: .696, .746, .642, .702, .691.
Obviously, Pierre is more durable than Erstad, but at a glace … yeeesh, there’s not much to choose from is there? (Erstad was a better defender as well, I believe)
by The Actual El Guapo on Dec 15, 2009 3:24 PM CST up reply actions
The fact Erstad
Had so many injuries and was broken down is what matters though. Pierre to this point has looked healthier as of late, just watching Erstad run was painful.
by Grinder in Training on Dec 15, 2009 3:27 PM CST up reply actions
I like how your ages go right-to-left.
You really are of the Tribe, aren’t ya?
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
Sweet that I get to green-up this one.
L’chaim! Or whatever.
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
this is my favorite erstad pic, i recall that rhythm had a nice breakdown of his appearance
wrapped and sealed with masking tape moistened with sweat experience existence of ignorance
by onlysoxfaninboston on Dec 15, 2009 3:38 PM CST up reply actions
dude, tucked in tee with nice slacks, wtf yo !?
wrapped and sealed with masking tape moistened with sweat experience existence of ignorance
by onlysoxfaninboston on Dec 15, 2009 3:49 PM CST up reply actions
I believe I also likened it to a mullet, business on the bottom, party up top
especially with the sunglasses and “dude” necklace. Classic!
FUCK EVYTHING BACON RULZ WEER GONNA WIN TEH CHAMPSHIOP
...colintj, Nov8, 2009
He's not punting either
And his nose is neither red nor enormous
The world needs the Jedi now more than ever
I am enjoying this thread very much.
TAEG, CP return. larry and HSA duke it out. colin is still gay. And all because we are stocking up with every over-30 grindy has-been. Philly gets Halladay, Seattle gets Lee, Boston gets Lackey, we get….Juan Pierre.
Which of those mentioned makes the biggest impact? Which gets the biggest laugh?
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
I like this thread for the use of the term "paucity".
by The Actual El Guapo on Dec 15, 2009 3:28 PM CST up reply actions
A prolific preponderance of paucity.
Reporter: I was wondering if at any point in my lifetime the Cubs weren't going to be run by a guy who didn't immediately remind me of failure, confusion, or imminent death
A puzzling pragmatic pontification pursuant to proverbial putz pulling, pinhead.
There's Your Zagnut!!!
by DrEmilioLizardo on Dec 15, 2009 4:44 PM CST up reply actions
What did you call me!?!?
I’ll have your job for this!
Reporter: I was wondering if at any point in my lifetime the Cubs weren't going to be run by a guy who didn't immediately remind me of failure, confusion, or imminent death
Last time I checked Halladay, Lee, and Lackey combined have the same amount of rings as Pierre.
Who’s the winner now?
Please find Jay Cutler some help...
He's gone to LA.
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
by winningugly on Dec 15, 2009 3:34 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
And sceeeeeeeene.
EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine
by Sox Machine on Dec 15, 2009 3:35 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
I rec'd yours too...you had the awesome set-up....
Not picky, but very sticky....
by homesickalien on Dec 16, 2009 12:55 PM CST up reply actions
TY.
My fans can be counted on one hand.
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
I thought I did rec it.
Anyway, now I did.
EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine
just did
may as welll as finish the job
See, this is what happens when the Sox bunt.
Discord is sown. Brother fights brother. Misunderstandings abound.
-TAEG
by blackoutsox on Dec 16, 2009 10:43 PM CST up reply actions
BREAKING: Sox website has learned something again
http://twitter.com/SoxNet/status/6702852749
Must credit “Teh Twitter” in all stories.
damn, i forgot already, what was that trade rumor soxnet put out awhile back?
wrapped and sealed with masking tape moistened with sweat experience existence of ignorance
by onlysoxfaninboston on Dec 15, 2009 3:50 PM CST up reply actions
it was the trade for AG, haha
wrapped and sealed with masking tape moistened with sweat experience existence of ignorance
by onlysoxfaninboston on Dec 15, 2009 3:53 PM CST up reply actions
hee
wrapped and sealed with masking tape moistened with sweat experience existence of ignorance
by onlysoxfaninboston on Dec 15, 2009 3:57 PM CST up reply actions
i would otherwise ignore it, but what's up with the death, taxes ref?
wrapped and sealed with masking tape moistened with sweat experience existence of ignorance
by onlysoxfaninboston on Dec 15, 2009 4:04 PM CST up reply actions
inevitable.
12/12/07- We'll miss you Andy Gonzalez
Mike Cameron a Red Sox?
Well, we got Pierre. Splash, splash.
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
WTF is going on?
Instead of going out and getting real talent, it looks like the postseason is a craven push to get more season ticket sales out of a dimwitted fan base.
“Wow, they got Juan Pierre too? Man, he’s fast!”
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Getz/Link/Fields/Ely "Q" rating: 0
Teahan/Vizquel/’Druw/Pierre “Q” rating: Through the effing ROOF!
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
"'Druw"
Awesome!
Best game I ever attended was the 163rd game last year.
by NorthSidePaulie on Dec 16, 2009 9:26 AM CST up reply actions
cynical.
do you think a lot of people are that dumb or just that kenny thinks that there are a lot of people that dumb?
the suck is not just a river in ireland.
In this fanbase? A little from column A, little from column B.
The 2009 White Sox....like a 40 degree day.
by Ozzie Montana on Dec 15, 2009 10:14 PM CST up reply actions
what am I missing?
Why all the angst about Pierre’s puss arm and weak D? Let him DH and put Fatso Jones with all the gold gloves in RF.
Juan Pierre as DH.
Realy? I mean, really?
by hitlesswonder on Dec 15, 2009 4:15 PM CST up reply actions
Then why not just have pods as DH then?
urk…
There's Your Zagnut!!!
by DrEmilioLizardo on Dec 15, 2009 4:45 PM CST up reply actions
Post it. We need a guestbook.
It might be small, but we should pay respect.
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
small HOF, but big Hall of Memorials?
if Link gets one, then Ramon Castro should get FP’d. He caught a perfecto fer chrissake.
His name is Rios and he dances on the sand
KW on the DH
“Ozzie and I have been speaking on that a while. He would like to sit where we are right now because he likes flexibility with the DH position, whether it’s a guy needing a break, or keeping bench players fresh. Guys like Jones and Kotsay, Vizquel needing at-bats. I’ve given him some names, but he likes the flexibility, and this is a very critical last thing on our list here, because I don’t want to do anything from my seat that conflicts with what my manager wants.”
Vizquel is going to get at-bats at DH, along with Jones and Kotsay. This qualifies as the most idiotic plan I’ve heard in quite sometime.
I have to think that Thome would be willing to sign a very cheap 1 year deal. But no, we’ll do without the guy left-handed .840 OPS guy because Vizquel needs to get some at-bats.
when was this said?
12/12/07- We'll miss you Andy Gonzalez
Reading between the lines
KW does have money to spend on a DH if he wanted to get one. So that’s good.
by Grinder in Training on Dec 15, 2009 4:27 PM CST up reply actions
As idiotic as Pods as DH?
Not picky, but very sticky....
by homesickalien on Dec 15, 2009 4:32 PM CST up reply actions
Hmm...it's close, but I think the possibility of Vizquel getting any at-bats at DH makes this worse.
by hitlesswonder on Dec 15, 2009 4:37 PM CST up reply actions
he can bunt
it will revolutionize the DH position
Every good port begins with a slut.
- homesickalien
by Scotty Ballgame on Dec 15, 2009 9:28 PM CST up reply actions
I hear...
Ozzie wants the pitchers to hit for themselves every 3rd start so that his DH rotation can all rest at the same time.
The man has the 14th most outs in history, how can you not DH him.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/outs_made_career.shtml
The world needs the Jedi now more than ever
Fear not!
http://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/outs_made_season.shtml
The world needs the Jedi now more than ever
really? really?
Is there a rule that says a DH must be a lumbering one demensional slugger? With the roster as is, who is the DH? A leaf off type hitter can fill that role just fine, esp when he is your 5th best defensive out fielder. Frankly I don’t like this move as much if he’s in the OF 140 games.
Pierre has most of his value tied up in defense.
he’s mediocre offensively but has shown the talent of a ++ defensive outfielder. Bad arm, but awesome range.
DH should be an excellent offensive talent. This includes slugging, not making outs and base running. Pierre is good at one of those, base running.
Pierre is pretty good defensively, but not "++" by any stretch
Granted compared to Dye he might as well be.
The world needs the Jedi now more than ever
I was distracted by his shiny 2006 numbers.
He falls in the 5-6 runs saved range for CF. I think he’ll be much better as he posted a 16.4 UZR/150 last year. Small sample (94 games) but in line with a good Def. CF moving to an easier position.
So, yeah, good, and ++ was an exaggeration.
Why do think a lot of DHs are lumbering one-dimensional sluggers?
If they weren’t, you could play them in the field and then get a one-dimensional slugger to DH.
A “leadoff hitter” doesn’t give this team the run-making offense the Sox need. You can get a much better bat than Pierre, like maybe some guy that could post a .840 OPS but has limited job options because he can’t play the field and play him at DH. DH is where you can have a hit-only guy not hurt you on defense. You waste that when you play a guy who can field but not hit there. That’s just crazy.
by hitlesswonder on Dec 15, 2009 4:58 PM CST up reply actions
he needs to hit, period
replacement level is league average
2009 is just 2007 in 2008's clothing. - Trooper
What to do now....
Morel and jordan danks would seem to be trade chips for a slugger……
by stanchar on Dec 15, 2009 5:08 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
At least until John's contract is figured out.
EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
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woosh
See, this is what happens when the Sox bunt.
Discord is sown. Brother fights brother. Misunderstandings abound.
-TAEG
I think they'll try to hang on to Danks
if he develops, the Sox might start him in center and shift Rios to right in 2011 with Quentin DH’ing.
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by UribeAuction on Dec 15, 2009 6:23 PM CST up reply actions
libero.
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by UribeAuction on Dec 15, 2009 7:12 PM CST up reply actions
at least we're not the royals.
they have cancelled their fantasy camp. sad.
the suck is not just a river in ireland.
Who in the Fuck has always been a frustrated Royal?
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
One undercover thing I am very happy about is
Q’s official return to RF. Any defensive success at all came there.
"Oh well back to work"
and you always believe what The Man tells you?
These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.
by thatshortkid on Dec 15, 2009 6:59 PM CST up reply actions
I also don't know where this notion came from that the Sox lied about Griffrey's position
Unfortunately KW clearly said at the trade Grif would play center.
"Oh well back to work"
Did you NOT see the Charlie Brown illustrations above?
At some point you gotta quit blaming The MAN and take some personal responsibility for being misled.
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
Jamaal Two-Times.
;) Divorce is a mutha, ain’t it?
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
All the money that they have spent on crap
teahen, putz, vizquel pierre, jones… (though i don’t really mind the teahen, putz and jones moves) they could have actually gobbled up a solid contributor. I’m not a fan of this. Pierre is a small small step above podsednik. One might call him the dark podsednik…. i don’t like the light or dark version.
Kenwo4life=ratings
Still need a solid left-handed bat in the middle of the order
If Kenny can still somehow make that happen, I think he may have actually gotten several solid contributors and filled the offseason holes pretty decently. As I look over the current roster, I’m smelling one more move. Once that happens, then Pierre will look like a better fit.
by Quickly 0 and 2 on Dec 15, 2009 9:06 PM CST up reply actions
at this point i don't care if its a lefty or righty...
they do need a slugger. i was hoping for 2 sluggers. You need power in the cell.
Kenwo4life=ratings
Agree on the need for power
But you know how Ozzie likes to alternate left and right handed batters in the order. I can’t see him putting 3 right-handed hitters in a row near the top/middle. That’s why I think we’ll still get a left-handed power-hitter/DH type of guy. Something like this for a batting order:
L – Pierre
R – Beckham
R – Quentin
L – DH
R – Konerko
L – Pierzynski
R – Rios
L – Teahen
R – Ramirez
by Quickly 0 and 2 on Dec 15, 2009 9:26 PM CST up reply actions
I just read on whitesox.com
that kenny gave ozzie a bunch of names for a DH and ozzie didn’t want any of them…. opting to use the DH as a flex position. Good lord. The AL dominates the NL in everything and this moron wants an NL style lineup. What are we waiting for???? Fire the douche!
Kenwo4life=ratings
Bradley and 5m for linebrink
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 15, 2009 10:24 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
it would be cool
to see bradley have a good year or 2 on the sox after absolutely being the anti-christ for cub fans. id love it. good story line.. plus we get rid of that dog linebrink!? gotta do it.
Kenwo4life=ratings
exactly why the cubs won't do it
Sox don’t like possible clubhouse cancers either. Aka FNS and ocab.
I’d make the move though.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 15, 2009 10:37 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
please, for the love of god
will everyone quit with the fucking milton bradley shit? i wouldn’t want that motherfucker if he was paying the sox.
the suck is not just a river in ireland.
pretty similar to my thoughts
Of linebrink.
I take my chances on Bradley as a DH thus limiting his chances for blowups with fans in the OF. Worked in Texas.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 15, 2009 10:54 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I don't think we'd even have to give the Cubs Linebrink
Bradley looks like one of those moves Kenny would make. A player coming off a bad year whose team pays us to take him. If we did get Bradley, he and Pierre could alternate at LF and DH to minimize the overall effect of Pierre’s weak throwing arm. Seems like a fit.
by Quickly 0 and 2 on Dec 16, 2009 6:49 AM CST up reply actions
At least he wouldn't be able to bitch about the racial slurs at the cell
"ass hole thi is the same line up whit leftys you idiot"
by Brush Back on Dec 16, 2009 8:46 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Shit, why not
Roster’s not bizarre enough yet for my liking
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by billyok on Dec 15, 2009 10:49 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
+1
Best game I ever attended was the 163rd game last year.
by NorthSidePaulie on Dec 16, 2009 9:32 AM CST up reply actions
Beware the Dark Podsednik!!!
There's Your Zagnut!!!
by DrEmilioLizardo on Dec 15, 2009 10:53 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Ace Frehley aint got shit on me, biotch!
There's Your Zagnut!!!
by DrEmilioLizardo on Dec 15, 2009 10:59 PM CST up reply actions
until i see juan pierre get picked off of third base in the 8th inning of a one-run must-win game
he ain’t podsednik anything
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Juan Pierre probably wouldn't make it to third
he’ll get caught stealing at second in the 8th inning of a one-run must-win game.
Chicago White Sox Examiner — I wish I could cuss right now.
by UribeAuction on Dec 15, 2009 11:32 PM CST up reply actions
Stop using stats to make a point
"ass hole thi is the same line up whit leftys you idiot"
....or even in the 10th inning of a 0-0 game, with 1 out.
ugh. I can still picture it happening, from my seat at Safeco. fucker.
Not picky, but very sticky....
by homesickalien on Dec 16, 2009 10:05 AM CST up reply actions
why not vlad?
get him on the cheap and we can carry 9 or 10 outfielders/dh/douchebag old past their prime guys.
Confucious say "Baseball wrong. Man with four balls cannot walk."
what a piece of work larry is
who in thw hell do you think you are on this site anyway, negative, critical,bullshit, that any true fan would read and say "what does this turd or what good does he do in posting all negative ,minor bullshit about pierre?any true,blue sox fan knows he is the best thing that has happened for the top of the order in a long search and time. so quit your bullshit like your some baseball god of all timeand stick your head up your ass and let us enjoy the aquisition without all your so called knowledge and little trinkets of input. to the rest have a wonderful holiday, god bless….
by slapshot53 on Dec 16, 2009 12:28 PM CST reply actions 3 recs
Chill out buddy. I really like the acquisition, but I can read larry's post and not freak out
It’s called an opinion. He laid out why he doesn’t like it.
You and I see it differently. Enjoy the trade. I am.
A: larry is an editor on this site, which is the best Sox blog you're gonna find.
I hate the guy as much as the next person, but it is his place to opine and present a perspective that covers angles.
“trinkets of input”? What…like…considering and providing us with pros and cons of deals dealt?
Would you rather this be one-dimensional, ie; “This is sweet, no bad could possibly come from this transaction!”?
If so, there are other blogs out there for that. You are free to enjoy the acquisition regardless of larry’s personal feelings over it. I know I am.
Not picky, but very sticky....
by homesickalien on Dec 16, 2009 1:04 PM CST up reply actions
This site would be so dull without Larry pissing someone off daily... lol
"ass hole thi is the same line up whit leftys you idiot"
As his favorite plaything, yeah, I'd be so super bummed if he wasn't a total douchenozzle.
Not picky, but very sticky....
by homesickalien on Dec 16, 2009 1:14 PM CST up reply actions
"which is the best Sox blog you're gonna find."
that’s just cuz Jim’s doing a zine now
2009 is just 2007 in 2008's clothing. - Trooper
by colintj on Dec 16, 2009 1:30 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Who's Jim?
:) And yeah…you’re right. SoxMachine is honestly mind-blowingly awesome. It was a huge oversight on my part. Should have read: “one of the best Sox blogs you’re gonna find.”
Not picky, but very sticky....
by homesickalien on Dec 16, 2009 1:43 PM CST up reply actions
arent we like 8th best in the MLB or something like that
See, this is what happens when the Sox bunt.
Discord is sown. Brother fights brother. Misunderstandings abound.
-TAEG
Hey man!
I don’t know who these “Blue Sox” are you’re talking about, but we’re White Sox fans here.
Take your bigoted lawyer-bashing to the Blue Sox SBN page, bigblueballs.com
Reporter: I was wondering if at any point in my lifetime the Cubs weren't going to be run by a guy who didn't immediately remind me of failure, confusion, or imminent death
by Hazymania on Dec 16, 2009 1:22 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Yes but they're the IronBirds now.
Reporter: I was wondering if at any point in my lifetime the Cubs weren't going to be run by a guy who didn't immediately remind me of failure, confusion, or imminent death
When they were the Sox's they were the Blue Sox
All that’s relevant.
Go Memphis Chickasaws.
wait, that's not an ann arbor site?
These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.
by thatshortkid on Dec 16, 2009 1:32 PM CST up reply actions
I checked it
It doesn’t seem to be owned. Colin! Get after it!
Reporter: I was wondering if at any point in my lifetime the Cubs weren't going to be run by a guy who didn't immediately remind me of failure, confusion, or imminent death
man, he didn't even wish larry happy holidays.
that’s cold, bro.
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by UribeAuction on Dec 16, 2009 1:48 PM CST up reply actions
They LOVE Xmas...
The Divorce rates go way up during the holidays, as do drunken idiocy… a nice bump in their fiscal year…
There's Your Zagnut!!!
by DrEmilioLizardo on Dec 16, 2009 7:39 PM CST up reply actions
so that's why Stony Pony's wife loves the holiday season so much?
Chicago White Sox Examiner — I wish I could cuss right now.
by UribeAuction on Dec 16, 2009 11:31 PM CST up reply actions
Well, that, and the holiday specials at Taco Bell.
"I am not your lady... I am not any kind of a lady!" - Aldonza
by homesickalien on Dec 17, 2009 9:20 AM CST up reply actions
*
"I am not your lady... I am not any kind of a lady!" - Aldonza
by homesickalien on Dec 17, 2009 9:19 AM CST up reply actions
yeah. YEAH!!
jumps up and air-punches
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by billyok on Dec 16, 2009 2:14 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
uh oh, guys, looks like billy's stuck. i'm going to go find a scientist!
These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.
by thatshortkid on Dec 16, 2009 2:42 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Scientist? Scientist? We don't need no stinking scientists!
FUCK EVYTHING BACON RULZ WEER GONNA WIN TEH CHAMPSHIOP
...colintj, Nov8, 2009
Ozzie, I see your spelling is improving.
BTW, KenWo still hates you.
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
What a piece of work is a larry,
how noble in reason, how infinite in faculties, in form and moving how express and
admirable, in action how like an angel, in apprehension how like a god! the beauty of the world, the paragon of animals—and yet, to me, what is this quintessence of dust? Man delights not me—nor woman neither, though by your smiling you seem to say so.
There's Your Zagnut!!!
by DrEmilioLizardo on Dec 16, 2009 2:54 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
UR gae.
This is good FB material, though. ;)
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
If Larry got hit by a bus I wouldn't care....
but he got this one right. pierre is a bum. the only person he is better than is podsednik. Pretty much a lateral move. BOO.
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Dec 16, 2009 4:41 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
sometimes i think "why do i waste my time writing for this site?"
and then i get comments like these and i’m reminded why it is worth it.
by larry on Dec 16, 2009 8:32 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
lol!!!
"ass hole thi is the same line up whit leftys you idiot"
is tony pena
going to suck again this year?
YOU CAN PUT IT ON THE BOARD YES!
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