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To DH or not to DH.....

Probably best to get some fresh thread blood up for the weekend. 
Here is a warm and cozy place to kick back and continue pondering the remaining, possibly tragic (hence the title) 2010 roster hole: DH.

Is Thome waiting by the phone, as Mitch. depicted in his "Gentleman on Velvet"?
Should we pursue Cust/Delgado/Vlad/any other oafish sluggers? 
How about that Rotating DH idea (Kotsay/Vizquel/Jones)?  Would Ozzie really do that to us?

I hope you don't mind the itchy-scab-scented incense I'm burning from the last thread.  I promise there are a couple new wounds after the jump. 

Star-divide

Touché!

~Sox claim Freddy Dolsi for the 40-man and a potential bullpen spot.  (Yarmulke-tip to joewho112.)

Dolsi, 26, was 4-3 with a 3.83 ERA and 10 saves in 39 games with Class AAA Toledo last season. He also was 1-0 with a 1.69 ERA in six games with the Tigers. He has spent seven seasons in the Tigers' minor leagues.

~Jim at SoxMachine already compiled the worstuv position players list, and here is his take on the awfulest of awful Sox mound-dwellers of the past decade.  

~The Mariners continue to assemble quite the pretty little team...most recently at the expense of those cross-town losers.  M's dumped Carlos Silva to the Cubs for Milton Bradley. 
Where better for sensitive-skinned Bradley to go, than the city of pussies!  Makes perfect sense to me!  I bet he didn't even enjoy jaywalking in Chicago! 

In case you weren't keeping track, that's Chone Figggguhns + Cliff Lee + Milton Bradley to the M's this offseason.  They are quickly emerging as the AL West team to beat.  Should be lots of no fun for yours truly, so I'm going to enjoy this now, while I can just make fun of the Cubs for such a crappy trade. 

If you're bored and curious, take a peak over at LookoutLanding, where entertainment always abounds.  

I wouldn't be surprised if there's something fun happening on BCB too.  Feel free to use the comments to link to any memorable posts from either. 

~It's the weekend before Christmas and since most of you are god-fearers, you'll probably be hitting the shopping malls with all the other good Christians.  Good luck with that!  Try to not get trampled to death in the name of Baby Jesus.

So to get and stay in the spirit, here is my favorite Christmas song...I've heard "better" versions, but this one always puts me right in the Christ is born! sort of mood.  Enjoy!

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BCB is adorable

instructing Hendry to flip Silva

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by billyok on Dec 18, 2009 2:05 PM CST reply actions  

Gotta love how some are convinced

that Silva is magically going to become a 5th starter because he is playing for the Cubs. Remember who they were saying that about last year? The Cubs are not a magical force.

by 815Sox on Dec 20, 2009 6:42 PM CST up reply actions  

i hate the DH...

and wait to rejoice on that glorious day when it is removed from MLB.

by Hatchetm on Dec 18, 2009 2:12 PM CST reply actions  

F pitchers hitting! Go back to the NL, Molly Hatchett!

"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "

by Chiburb on Dec 18, 2009 2:14 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

DH! Fuck yeah!

Watching pitchers hit is like watching kickers tackle.

His name is Rios and he dances on the sand

by Nordhagen on Dec 18, 2009 9:30 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

OMG. If you haven't heard the Xmas carol that HSA linked to, go now...

Be sure to hear the 1:15, 2:00 and later marks to fully appreciate this.
UFR

"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "

by Chiburb on Dec 18, 2009 2:15 PM CST reply actions  

2:58 EST, CST, GMT, etc.

3:07 is PST. ;)

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Dec 18, 2009 4:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Someone kick gramps,

he’s babbling in numbers and time zones again.

by The Actual El Guapo on Dec 18, 2009 4:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Holy shit.

If the Black Death were a song, that’s what it would sound like.

by The Actual El Guapo on Dec 18, 2009 2:36 PM CST up reply actions  

although it sorta sounds like

the screeching violin in the black angel’s death song.

the suck is not just a river in ireland.

by BuehrleMan on Dec 18, 2009 2:39 PM CST up reply actions  

OK

All my co-workers just stopped to see why I was laughing so hard. That is unbelievable!

by jimmyjr on Dec 18, 2009 2:38 PM CST up reply actions  

They are sending $9m cash

Silva is making $3mmore than Bradley for his total contract ($25 m vs $22 m), therefore the CUbs save $6m total or $3m/year.Link

by joewho112 on Dec 18, 2009 2:45 PM CST up reply actions  

It's still a terrible trade, just less of a total highway robbery.

I suppose they could cut Silva in spring training and use the leftover savings to sign Byrd, Crisp, Ankiel, etc.

The 2009 White Sox....like a 40 degree day.

by Ozzie Montana on Dec 18, 2009 2:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Ummm...

Wouldn’t they still be on the hook for his salary (a la Damion Easley)?

White Sox fan; Jeppson's Malort man

by KarkoviceIsHawt on Dec 18, 2009 4:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Liked this blurb...

on the trade:

“M’s unloaded the bloated, $25 mil corpse of Carlos Silva in Bradley trade. I’d acquire Stalin if it meant ditching Silva.”

by palehose67 on Dec 18, 2009 2:39 PM CST up reply actions  

might as well see if he can stick as 5th starter

if he doesn’t then cut him loose

fun fact about silva: In 2005 he gave up 9 walks total (2 IBB). If you take a peak at the leaderboard for lowest BB/9 you get a bunch of guys from the 1800’s and Carlos Silva.

by jeeves on Dec 19, 2009 1:48 AM CST up reply actions  

the more i think about it

milton bradley+lookout landing has the potential to be quite entertaining.

right now LL seems generally ecstatic. i won’t completely rule out the possibility that bradley could keep himself together and really produce for them. on the other hand, i don’t know if it’s very likely and i don’t think they know exactly what they may be getting themselves into.

(disclosure: i thought the bradley pickup was going to work out well for the cubs. i was wrong.) (worked out well for me though. i really enjoyed it.)

the suck is not just a river in ireland.

by BuehrleMan on Dec 18, 2009 2:32 PM CST reply actions  

i think milton will perform better in a smaller market, he just needs to stay healthy

i hope he does, fuck the bleacher bum fans

wrapped and sealed with masking tape moistened with sweat experience existence of ignorance

by onlysoxfaninboston on Dec 18, 2009 2:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Milton has done a laid back, small market

Stint. That would be San Diego where he started great and then tore his ACL during the pennant stetch while going apeshit during an arguement with an umpire. He will implode at some point and blame the media, fans, teammates and stir in some racism for good measure. It will happen as sure as the sun will rise.

by Duck99 on Dec 19, 2009 4:29 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Fun.
Who wants to go to Seattle…

…for the interleague game to heckle him?!

“Pounding sand since 1982….”

by cubswynn on Dec 18, 2009 1:11 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
They are ditching Silva

I’d be happy if I were them too.

Check back on May 15 when Bradley has accused Starbucks of racism.

There is no such thing as an ugly female breast

by Worf on Dec 18, 2009 1:27 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

The 2009 White Sox....like a 40 degree day.

by Ozzie Montana on Dec 18, 2009 2:41 PM CST reply actions  

Again, I refer you to the reaction to the Hundley deal seven years ago. People said at the time, "Why did the Cubs get those guys? They suck!"

Carlos Silva has sucked the last two years. That does NOT mean he will suck in 2010.

“You can observe a lot just by watching.” ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Dec 18, 2009 10:16 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

The 2009 White Sox....like a 40 degree day.

by Ozzie Montana on Dec 18, 2009 2:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Grand finale.
Great, he was a bad pitcher on a spreadsheet. At worst, if he is healthy he can be an inning-eater. The Cubs can use one of those.

“You can observe a lot just by watching.” ~ Yogi Berra by Al on Dec 18, 2009 10:18 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

The 2009 White Sox....like a 40 degree day.

by Ozzie Montana on Dec 18, 2009 2:51 PM CST up reply actions  

he needs to be stopped.

mercy.

the suck is not just a river in ireland.

by BuehrleMan on Dec 18, 2009 2:53 PM CST up reply actions  

What a moron.

APOLOGIST!!!

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Dec 18, 2009 2:56 PM CST up reply actions  

i like this one from LL. i don't think they're joking, but i'm not 100% sure.

I think Griffey is going to have a long talk with Bradley
About being a good teammate. And I think it will work out well once he does.

the suck is not just a river in ireland.

by BuehrleMan on Dec 18, 2009 2:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Sounds serious to me.

And entirely plausible. He can add Bradley to his Windermere posse of Tiger/MJ/Barkley. That has worked out well so far.

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Dec 18, 2009 2:57 PM CST up reply actions  

would anyone care to explain to me please

how to blockquote something, such as the example above, when there are spaces between lines? i tried a couple times but it was all cocked up so i quit.

the suck is not just a river in ireland.

by BuehrleMan on Dec 18, 2009 3:55 PM CST up reply actions  

reeee-jected. no play for mister gray.

thanks for nothing. bastards.

the suck is not just a river in ireland.

by BuehrleMan on Dec 18, 2009 9:45 PM CST up reply actions  

you need to put line breaks in, rather than pressing enter.

the tag is <br>

example:

<blockquote>hello<br>world</blockquote>

is

hello
world

i’ve been toying with the idea of doing an “html, sbn, and you” FP to at least have some of the quirks documented.

These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.

by thatshortkid on Dec 19, 2009 12:56 PM CST up reply actions  

thats a good idea.

except for the putting Linebreak in part.
never do that.

"I like my DH like I like my women. Fat , slow and full of power."
by soxshenanigans

by e-gus on Dec 20, 2009 12:33 AM CST up reply actions  

let's see here. this is what i was going for.

thanks

friend

the suck is not just a river in ireland.

by BuehrleMan on Dec 20, 2009 7:03 AM CST up reply actions  

Please do, tsk.

I am not your lady... I am not any kind of a lady! ~ Aldonza

by homesickalien on Dec 20, 2009 11:09 AM CST up reply actions  

Good for Hendry

He had to move somebody with negative trade value, tough order. At least they were able to trade him and not just straight up release him.

by Jack M on Dec 18, 2009 2:53 PM CST reply actions  

but in all seriousness

he got 6m worth of salary relief, and traded a useless player for a useless player. why do people think hendry screwed up so bad on this deal? did people think he was going to get anything good for Bradley, from the zero teams that had legitimate interest in him?

by Jack M on Dec 18, 2009 3:04 PM CST up reply actions  

He has use-value

But not exchange-value

White Sox fan; Jeppson's Malort man

by KarkoviceIsHawt on Dec 18, 2009 4:20 PM CST up reply actions  

nicely put

wrapped and sealed with masking tape moistened with sweat experience existence of ignorance

by onlysoxfaninboston on Dec 18, 2009 3:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Tim Marchman got no love for KW's moves:
There were lots of less-glamorous moves this week. The one I hated most was the Dodgers shipping Juan Pierre to the Chicago White Sox. It’s not that this is indefensible — Pierre is a moderately useful fourth outfielder who will be paid as such, and it’s not his fault that he’ll be asked to start. The problem here is that it’s the cap on a series of sadly uninspired moves from usually creative White Sox general manager Ken Williams.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/tim_marchman/12/18/marchman.hotstove/1.html

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Dec 18, 2009 3:11 PM CST reply actions  

I agree with that

The Sox are a team that needs a lot of help and KW has only made small changes.

He improved the pen with a bit with Putz, signed a few back-ups, improved the OF but didn’t make it good per se, and the Teahan move has minimal impact. The Sox are still left with a below average hitting outfield, a mediocre infield and a complete hole at DH.

by joewho112 on Dec 18, 2009 3:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Maybe a wee bit harsh, no?

I think Beckham and Alexei are better than mediocre, it seems likely Rios will return to his averages, or at least not a total POS like last year, plus we’ve added a full season of Peavy. If we’d signed Peavy in the off-season, would you have considered that a small change? Also, I don’t buy for a second Kenny’s done. He may be, but he may just as well be rope-a-doping the market. Looking desperate doesn’t improve your bargaining position.

by ExileDC on Dec 18, 2009 3:40 PM CST up reply actions  

In the infield, I'd say

Teahan = Below Average hitting and Fielding
Alexei = A little above average
Beckham = Short term above average, long term an all star
Konerko = About as average as you can get at 1B
AJ = Average

We probably don’t have any all stars in the outfield either even if Rios improves a bit. Altogether, a very average defense and offense. The pitching is better than average so that makes the team altogether a little above average even if you add a solid DH.

At least the 2005 team had good defense and good power.

by joewho112 on Dec 18, 2009 3:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Just read

The pitching is a lot above average and run prevention should be significant for the team.

"Oh well back to work"

by Tdogg on Dec 18, 2009 4:13 PM CST up reply actions  

And folks need to stop with the at least the 05 team had power

People they scored 741 runs that year. A whole 15 more than the diastrous 09 season. I just want runs. I don’t give a damn where they come from.

"Oh well back to work"

by Tdogg on Dec 18, 2009 5:11 PM CST up reply actions  

"The Sox are a team that needs a lot of help and KW has only made small changes."

Please explain. If you get a full year of Peavy, Q hits and Rios sniffs normalcy this is all a moot point.

Need a lot of help for what? The AL Central???

"Oh well back to work"

by Tdogg on Dec 18, 2009 4:12 PM CST up reply actions  

The Sox were a 79 win team

If Q stays healthy and hits (not guraunteed) and Rios bounces back (not guraunteed), they pick up a few wins. Peavy adds a few more. If none of the pitchers, Konerko and Beckham get hurt, I’d say that makes the Sox a 87 win team (assuming they pick up an adequate DH).

Maybe good enough to win the AL Central with a little luck, but unlikely to be good enough to win in the playoffs if they face a team with 2 or more good pitchers.

by joewho112 on Dec 18, 2009 4:26 PM CST up reply actions  

I think mid-high 80s is a decent guess

But I’m more optimistic about the playoffs. The rotation/bullpen back-end could be downright scary in a five game series, at the least.

White Sox fan; Jeppson's Malort man

by KarkoviceIsHawt on Dec 18, 2009 4:32 PM CST up reply actions  

But you could say the same for most of the other playoff caliber teams

Seattle has Henandez & Lee. Boston has Beckett & Lackey. NY has Sabathia & Burnett. They all stack up with Peavy & Buerhle, but those teams can all hit.

by joewho112 on Dec 18, 2009 4:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Fair enough

White Sox fan; Jeppson's Malort man

by KarkoviceIsHawt on Dec 18, 2009 4:44 PM CST up reply actions  

When he's not in chemo.

Too soon?

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Dec 18, 2009 4:54 PM CST up reply actions  

prob not

he’s cured, isn’t he?

"...but the devil lives inside this kid, I swear it. It rises out of him in a mist, this baby-faced defiant wrathful version of Pat Kane, escapes his bodily confines to perform satanic miracles all over the offensive zone. The only thing more fearsome than that assist was the keep-in preceding it. The only thing more unholy than his face is his black magic." GMH

by Illini0509 on Dec 18, 2009 4:56 PM CST up reply actions  

it was cancer

I don’t think you’re ever ‘cured’. You just hope to beat it into sufficient remission that your body can control it.

by coffeepac on Dec 18, 2009 4:57 PM CST up reply actions  

right

poor word choice with the “cure” there

"...but the devil lives inside this kid, I swear it. It rises out of him in a mist, this baby-faced defiant wrathful version of Pat Kane, escapes his bodily confines to perform satanic miracles all over the offensive zone. The only thing more fearsome than that assist was the keep-in preceding it. The only thing more unholy than his face is his black magic." GMH

by Illini0509 on Dec 18, 2009 4:58 PM CST up reply actions  

nah, just not funny. ;)

I am not your lady... I am not any kind of a lady! ~ Aldonza

by homesickalien on Dec 18, 2009 4:59 PM CST up reply actions  

yeah adding lackey.

Best rotation is Boston now.

"Oh well back to work"

by Tdogg on Dec 18, 2009 5:00 PM CST up reply actions  

IF Dice-K is healthy.

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Dec 18, 2009 5:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Even without Dice-K, right?

Lester-Beckett-Lackey-Bucholtz-Wakefield? Bucholtz was above league average (111 OPS+) last year in a half season. That’s ridiculous outta your 4.

by coffeepac on Dec 18, 2009 5:06 PM CST up reply actions  

The sox won 79 games last year and they stunk it up all year.

We have Beckham, Rios and Peavy for a full year. We should have a healthy Quentin. We’ve upgraded our leadoff hitter and left fielder. Teahen is much better than Getz and Garcia is much better than Colon. Our outfield defense will be much better and our infield defense should be improved too with Beckham at second and Che with a year under his belt. Bullpen is questionable but no more so than last year.
This team could easily win 95 games if everyone stays healthy. My christmas gift would be a solid left handed bat to play rf and move Q to dh. If we don’t do anything else, we should still win the division.

by mick10 on Dec 18, 2009 4:39 PM CST up reply actions  

on what basis would one assert that "we should have a healthy quentin".

the offense is still a joke. the pitching and defense better be better than advertised.

by larry on Dec 18, 2009 4:48 PM CST up reply actions  

No shit, Bwana.

Alchemy will be needed to get to 85 wins.

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Dec 18, 2009 4:53 PM CST up reply actions  

that guy can kiss my fucking ass right downtown

and print it!

the suck is not just a river in ireland.

by BuehrleMan on Dec 18, 2009 3:18 PM CST up reply actions  

So with the two DH moves of the past 18 hours...

what teams are still in the market for a DH? Anyone besides Texas? Maybe KC?

And the other question I’d have is — are guys like Vlad and Glaus considered (around the league) as DHs only at this point? This is nothing more than a wild-ass guess but I tend to think KW has more interest in one of those two rather than Cust and Thome because it allows them some more flexibility (Glaus could probably put on a glove for interleague, ditto Vlad). I remain optimistic that KW is waiting for the asking prices on those guys to come down (or at least that’s my hope).

by CWSKeith on Dec 18, 2009 3:18 PM CST reply actions  

Either way, it's a tweak.

Not Earth-shaking, Shock and Awe-inspring. Lotsa flotsam and jetsam.

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Dec 18, 2009 3:22 PM CST up reply actions  

well, kenny did say this

“Regardless if I think there might be a need for another left-handed bat in middle of the lineup, he’s the one in there, and I fully support how he sees the situation fitting and piecing it together. We’ll continue to think about it. We have time, but not a whole lot, before we set a course of action.”

(the “he” referring to ozzie) so i’m thinking if they are going to get a DH, a lefty is more likely.
link

the suck is not just a river in ireland.

by BuehrleMan on Dec 18, 2009 3:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Hooray for Jesus!!

FUCK EVYTHING BACON RULZ WEER GONNA WIN TEH CHAMPSHIOP
...colintj, Nov8, 2009

by rhythm on Dec 18, 2009 3:19 PM CST reply actions  

Are you extolling the Alou brothers again?

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Dec 18, 2009 3:20 PM CST up reply actions  

uh, wtf?

FUCK EVYTHING BACON RULZ WEER GONNA WIN TEH CHAMPSHIOP
...colintj, Nov8, 2009

by rhythm on Dec 18, 2009 3:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Google is your friend.

Learn some SF area baseball history, you POS. You live there, fer Chrissakes.

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Dec 18, 2009 3:29 PM CST up reply actions  

SF area baseball history can suck my left nut

I didn’t know that the Alou brothers were bible thumpers;) Hooray Jesus!

FUCK EVYTHING BACON RULZ WEER GONNA WIN TEH CHAMPSHIOP
...colintj, Nov8, 2009

by rhythm on Dec 18, 2009 5:17 PM CST up reply actions  

uh what?

wrapped and sealed with masking tape moistened with sweat experience existence of ignorance

by onlysoxfaninboston on Dec 18, 2009 3:50 PM CST up reply actions  

I vote for Randy Winn or Thome, but not to stand pat. That's just asinine.

I dunno how they’re going to keep Santos. I think they’re trying to make Flowers into a backup catcher/DH extraordinaire, but it isn’t like they can’t pick up one of those guys and a catcher or two for scraps and call it an offseason.

by Daniel Berlyn on Dec 18, 2009 6:21 PM CST reply actions  

I wonder why ESPN has our depth chart listed as they do. According to them AJ will be on the bench. What happened to Thornton? Why is Jones playing outfield?

"Let’s plunge ourselves into the roar of time, the whirl of accident; may pain and pleasure, success and failure, shift as they will- it’s only action that can make a man" Faust, Goethe

by Ahillock on Dec 18, 2009 6:55 PM CST up reply actions  

It was meant as a joke. Lighten up. :)

"Let’s plunge ourselves into the roar of time, the whirl of accident; may pain and pleasure, success and failure, shift as they will- it’s only action that can make a man" Faust, Goethe

by Ahillock on Dec 18, 2009 8:40 PM CST up reply actions  

Why is Dewayne Wise still on the team?

EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine

by Sox Machine on Dec 18, 2009 8:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Never let go, Jim.

I am not your lady... I am not any kind of a lady! ~ Aldonza

by homesickalien on Dec 18, 2009 11:19 PM CST up reply actions  

i know why

its espn. they should just stick to choking down the lakers’ and red sawx’ dicks.

If the woman is offering an opinion, you are doing it wrong. - HSA

by BoeJouma on Dec 18, 2009 8:35 PM CST up reply actions  

and isnt Ozzie the 5th string SS?

His name is Rios and he dances on the sand

by Nordhagen on Dec 18, 2009 9:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Cora comes before him

See, this is what happens when the Sox bunt.
Discord is sown. Brother fights brother. Misunderstandings abound.

-TAEG

by blackoutsox on Dec 19, 2009 4:00 PM CST up reply actions  

So says Mrs. Cowley.

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Dec 19, 2009 4:22 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

We need a left-handed bat

So I don’t think Vlad or Glaus are coming to the Sox. A left-hander that could also play a position occasionally will be Kenny’s target. So that rules out Thome.

Maybe Carlos Delgado is a possibility? Or is there anything to some of the earlier rumors about Adrian Gonzalez? Johnny Damon is out of our price range and a Boras client, but it sure would be sweet to add him to this team. Randy Winn – ehh – not so much.

by Quickly 0 and 2 on Dec 18, 2009 6:27 PM CST reply actions  

Randy Winn sucked offensively last year.

And given his age, that might not be an aberration. I’d rather have Thome (or even stand pat) than throw money after him.

by ExileDC on Dec 18, 2009 7:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Winn is more valuable if he can field the way he has. If he hits, that's a bonus.

I haven’t heard of any teams offering him a contract and if the Sox can offer him 400 ABs that’s probably better than what he’ll find anywhere else. They could probably get either for cheap but there’s no reason to stand pat.

by Daniel Berlyn on Dec 18, 2009 7:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Field well and often, that is.

Something Quentin and Jones haven’t done much of lately.

by Daniel Berlyn on Dec 18, 2009 7:45 PM CST up reply actions  

maybe arizona will trade us that brandon allen guy.

"I like my DH like I like my women. Fat , slow and full of power."
by soxshenanigans

by e-gus on Dec 18, 2009 8:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Too early to give Flowers a shot at DH full time?

"Let’s plunge ourselves into the roar of time, the whirl of accident; may pain and pleasure, success and failure, shift as they will- it’s only action that can make a man" Faust, Goethe

by Ahillock on Dec 18, 2009 8:42 PM CST up reply actions  

yes

Spring Training sure, but not at the start of the season. We are trying to win this thing.

by 815Sox on Dec 19, 2009 11:23 AM CST up reply actions  

i say no

his bar is for real, and its better than anyone on the current DH platoon.

"I like my DH like I like my women. Fat , slow and full of power."
by soxshenanigans

by e-gus on Dec 20, 2009 12:35 AM CST up reply actions  

bar = bat, after the bar

"I like my DH like I like my women. Fat , slow and full of power."
by soxshenanigans

by e-gus on Dec 20, 2009 12:36 AM CST up reply actions  

i swear to god ill kill a kitten if we acquire vlad.

If the woman is offering an opinion, you are doing it wrong. - HSA

by BoeJouma on Dec 18, 2009 8:31 PM CST reply actions  

I don't like cats so that is a good thing.

"Let’s plunge ourselves into the roar of time, the whirl of accident; may pain and pleasure, success and failure, shift as they will- it’s only action that can make a man" Faust, Goethe

by Ahillock on Dec 18, 2009 8:41 PM CST up reply actions  

We already know you don't like me,

so that is consistent. Which I am totally comfortable with.

Dogs rule!

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Dec 18, 2009 8:50 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm still going to rec mick's comment, fyi.

I am not your lady... I am not any kind of a lady! ~ Aldonza

by homesickalien on Dec 18, 2009 11:24 PM CST up reply actions  

No shit! What is up with these people?

I am not your lady... I am not any kind of a lady! ~ Aldonza

by homesickalien on Dec 18, 2009 11:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Most of the time I wait for someone else to say something first.

Most of the time.

I am not your lady... I am not any kind of a lady! ~ Aldonza

by homesickalien on Dec 18, 2009 11:26 PM CST up reply actions  

v v nice.

I am not your lady... I am not any kind of a lady! ~ Aldonza

by homesickalien on Dec 18, 2009 11:31 PM CST up reply actions  

You set em up, I'll knock em down...

That makes you Putz, and me Jenks, with a few less cheesburgers… but only a few.

There's Your Zagnut!!!

by DrEmilioLizardo on Dec 18, 2009 11:36 PM CST up reply actions  

And I'm dippin' mine in au jus.

I am not your lady... I am not any kind of a lady! ~ Aldonza

by homesickalien on Dec 19, 2009 12:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Can I get a pass?

I’m allergic to the things. The only time I ever lived with one I ended up feeding it in the morning. Fucking lazy hippie roommates

by 815Sox on Dec 19, 2009 11:24 AM CST up reply actions  

We will get a DH

We play at the Cell, Kenny isn’t stupid

by 815Sox on Dec 18, 2009 8:57 PM CST reply actions  

My question is, how come the White Sox don't want to resign Jim Thome?

Seems like a perfect fit to me..

Wrigley Bound in the Summer of 2010

by Chanman25 on Dec 18, 2009 9:30 PM CST reply actions  

cuz Jim Hendry rulezzzzzzzzzz

waiting with bated breath to see how the end of soriano’s contract plays out

by jeeves on Dec 19, 2009 1:57 AM CST up reply actions  

poorly. with lots of strikeouts

and JD defense. imagine JD’s month of september for 4 years. Yes, it starts in 2011.

by coffeepac on Dec 19, 2009 5:39 PM CST up reply actions  

So I just spent an undisclosed amount of time at BCB reading the train wreck that is the Bradley/Silva trade thread

I have to say, if there is a blogging fanbase on the internet that hates each other more than they do over there, I’d like to see it. What a bunch of cat fighting crybabies. And that joke of a managing editor makes me cringe.

And nary a portslut to be seen at that.

Reporter: I was wondering if at any point in my lifetime the Cubs weren't going to be run by a guy who didn't immediately remind me of failure, confusion, or imminent death

by Hazymania on Dec 19, 2009 2:45 AM CST reply actions   1 recs

Al

Is acting like Silva has a more the .5 percent shot of being any good.

by 815Sox on Dec 19, 2009 10:32 AM CST up reply actions  

Sounds like a challenge

That is the greatest game ever

by 3E8 on Dec 19, 2009 11:44 AM CST up reply actions  

you'll get caught up in the

if you test mah skillz

2009 is just 2007 in 2008's clothing. - Trooper

by colintj on Dec 19, 2009 7:42 PM CST up reply actions  

YEAH! YEAH!

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by Sox Machine on Dec 19, 2009 9:18 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

what a great fuckin game

If the woman is offering an opinion, you are doing it wrong. - HSA

by BoeJouma on Dec 19, 2009 5:58 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

breaking news

mark buehrle hates chicago, loves st. louis! hear what he has to say when receiving the hometown hero award at the jack buck awards.
here’s a LINK to a real lame interview.

the suck is not just a river in ireland.

by BuehrleMan on Dec 19, 2009 7:22 AM CST reply actions  

that guy doesn't know what he's talking about.

keith foulke threw 86-87 MPH? maybe if you’re like this guy and started watching baseball in 2005.

by larry on Dec 19, 2009 8:50 AM CST up reply actions  

"pitching in Dodger stadium ... may serve as a de facto third pitch."

Does that mean Jake Peavy was a seven-pitch pitcher?

EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
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by Sox Machine on Dec 19, 2009 9:39 AM CST up reply actions  

I argued earlier this week with a goof

who called Ely a stud. Talk about pointless conversation.

"Oh well back to work"

by Tdogg on Dec 19, 2009 11:34 AM CST up reply actions  

masset.

every organization has john ely types. jack egbert, lance broadway, tetsu yofu, danny wright… have all preceded him at birmingham as righties without particularly good fastballs who put up nice stats in AA. maybe he works it out. it’s not a particular concern to trade away guys who are billed as being fifth starters if everything goes right.

by larry on Dec 19, 2009 11:58 AM CST up reply actions  

Pretty good=

Average.

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Dec 19, 2009 4:31 PM CST up reply actions  

some old ESPN article

Dan Wright, RHP: Can hit 97 mph, with a wicked curve. Strikeout rate is low for someone who throws that hard, meaning that he won’t be ready immediately, like West.

there was a reason he was picked in the first round despite having a 6.00 ERA in college

by Hatchetm on Dec 19, 2009 6:39 PM CST up reply actions  

uh huh.

hitting 97. good one.

by larry on Dec 20, 2009 10:22 AM CST up reply actions  

ive got the bears and sox ones

bought sox, bears as gift.

needless to say, the sox one is on the door this year.

"I like my DH like I like my women. Fat , slow and full of power."
by soxshenanigans

by e-gus on Dec 20, 2009 12:40 AM CST up reply actions  

Wait a minute....

Your mom is fucking a sox snowman? What will the neighbors say?

There's Your Zagnut!!!

by DrEmilioLizardo on Dec 21, 2009 6:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Also just realized

Kenny has been awfully quiet lately

by 815Sox on Dec 19, 2009 11:36 AM CST reply actions  

I know

It’s been what, a week since any major line up shifts?

Reporter: I was wondering if at any point in my lifetime the Cubs weren't going to be run by a guy who didn't immediately remind me of failure, confusion, or imminent death

by Hazymania on Dec 19, 2009 11:47 AM CST up reply actions  

Idea of the day:

Instead of acquiring a bopper, lets move outfield walls back 10 – 15 feet.

by ballyb on Dec 19, 2009 12:30 PM CST reply actions  

veeck did that in Milwaukee I believe.

"I like my DH like I like my women. Fat , slow and full of power."
by soxshenanigans

by e-gus on Dec 20, 2009 12:40 AM CST up reply actions  

Like many I just don't like this lineup.........

it’s obvious they lack left-handed thunder especially in a division with only 2 left-handed starters I can think of (Sowers, Duensing)……we know Ozzie loves Kotsay and my guess is that he has had good discussions with A Jones and is buying the comeback story…..so he’s content to let those two split the DH……..this team is going to be seriously offensively-challenged….I just don’t see it any other way…..

so it’s obviously a rollback move to 2005…..terrific starting pitching…..a shot at a solid pen….and hopefully some timely hitting….and taking advantage of a weak division to get into the post-season….

That said……I’d be shocked if KW is not in touch with the agents for Cust, Huff, Branyan, and/or Delgado……any one of them is really fine with me……sit those guys against lefties and hope AJones can connect with one……and then use Kotsay for 1-2 starts a week at 1B in lieu of washed up PK and maybe a start in the OF to give Q or Rios the occasional rest…..

by stanchar on Dec 19, 2009 1:01 PM CST reply actions  

I was listening until that last part about PK

washed up?

He actually had one of his better seasons defensively last year. Mark Kotsay starting in any capacity for a healthly player on the current roster is not smart. PK will be fine for another year at 1B.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Dec 19, 2009 3:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Holy shit

BCB’s editor is so fucking full of himself.

Dude, you are not that smart. Actually what you post is straight up moronic a majority of the time.

by 815Sox on Dec 19, 2009 1:11 PM CST reply actions  

example
All of you here know that I was against the signing from the beginning — but I’m not going to say “told you so” here, because even I never imagined that Milton would melt down in the way he would.

It was not that hard to see that the deal was a bad signing, especially compared to what was available at the time. There is a reason every other manager scoffed at the money Bradley was asking for.

by 815Sox on Dec 19, 2009 1:14 PM CST up reply actions  

One of my biggest pet peeves..

“I’m not going to say I told you so.” No.. you fucking are, that’s exactly what you just did you pompous jackass.

by Grinder in Training on Dec 19, 2009 1:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Totally

He is also trying so hard to convince himself and others BCB that Silva is some sort of diamond in the rough, to the point that he is suggesting that he may be a 5th starter. Silva is garbage at this point, he is a reliever at best.

The trade was about getting rid of Bradley’s contract, Silva has nothing to do with it.

by 815Sox on Dec 19, 2009 2:09 PM CST up reply actions  

If youre in the mood for a great story with a sad ending....

1983 ALCS Tito Landrum game is on. Wow. I was at this game… I was about to be 4… its one of my earliest memories and my first taste of Sox disappointment!

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Dec 19, 2009 1:11 PM CST reply actions  

wow i love old comiskey.

I want the damn gold railings at the cell… the Golden Boxes! While ur at it give me an upper deck for christ sakes.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Dec 19, 2009 1:14 PM CST up reply actions  

I hardly remember being there

I went a bunch of times but was young.

I do remember skipping school in the 1st grade to go to opening day at the Cell. I remember that I had to say I was sick and could not tell the teacher I went to the baseball game (my teacher was a major jerk)

by 815Sox on Dec 19, 2009 1:15 PM CST up reply actions  

ugh. if i'm not mistaken, they have those rails at chavez ravine.

pass.

These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.

by thatshortkid on Dec 19, 2009 1:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Yankee and Shea Stadium had them, too

Pointless and uncomfortable.

EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine

by Sox Machine on Dec 19, 2009 2:05 PM CST up reply actions  

i like them.

they look good on tv and bring back fond memories. Let me relive it! jerkstore!

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Dec 19, 2009 2:17 PM CST up reply actions  

and bring back those 1983 uni's.... fucking boss.

they should wear those every Friday like the Brewers with their 80s jerseys.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Dec 19, 2009 1:15 PM CST up reply actions  

its also really fucking nice

to watch a game where they don’t show or tell you the pitch count 5,000 times. Pussification of america at its finest.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Dec 19, 2009 2:23 PM CST up reply actions  

What?

Dude sometimes you try way to hard

by 815Sox on Dec 19, 2009 2:31 PM CST up reply actions  

try way to hard to do what?

the pitch count was never brought up back then. now they start talking about the shit in the third inning. pussification of america.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Dec 19, 2009 2:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Its usually a good indicator of how well the pitcher is doing though

If a pitcher is touching 60-70 pitches through 3, he’s probably tossing up junk. And if he’s maintaining his velo through that, he’s either a. total stud b. going max effort to keep velo and losing deception and movement. Which means that pitcher is about to start coughing up a cornucopia of line drives.

You see it as the pussification of america; I see it as information to guess when a pitcher is about to fall apart. I get all excited when an opposing starter is throwing a lot of pitches.

by coffeepac on Dec 19, 2009 5:50 PM CST up reply actions  

I see it as a method of protecting an investment

Four of the five pitchers in that ’83 Sox rotation had nothing after age 30; Burns was done well before.

EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
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by Sox Machine on Dec 19, 2009 5:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Burns injury was a chronic hip problem and Hoyt's career ended early because of a drug problem.

Bannister pitched effectively until getting injured at age 34 and Koosman was 40 years old in 1983. Dotson was the only one of the 5 who had an arm injury cut his career short. I agree with you the reason for pitch counts and reduced innings pitched per year are a result of teams protecting investment. I’ve never seen any data proving the strategy has been effective though and I think they are wrong in their approach.

by mick10 on Dec 19, 2009 6:30 PM CST up reply actions  

If Nolan Ryan stays with Texas, it will be interesting to see how their pitchers do going deeper into games.

The problem is college and high school programs have been shortening pitch counts and innings for years too.

by mick10 on Dec 19, 2009 7:19 PM CST up reply actions  

the reason pitchers get pulled

is because relievers give up fewer runs per nine. teams should pull a pitcher any time his expected ERA drops below that of the reliever alternative. which means i think teams will start stretching out relievers more and shortening up starters, since there are plenty of starters who have ERAs past 4.50 at season’s end.

2009 is just 2007 in 2008's clothing. - Trooper

by colintj on Dec 19, 2009 8:01 PM CST up reply actions  

do you mean expected ERA rises above?

wrapped and sealed with masking tape moistened with sweat experience existence of ignorance

by onlysoxfaninboston on Dec 20, 2009 10:37 AM CST up reply actions  

however you prefer

2009 is just 2007 in 2008's clothing. - Trooper

by colintj on Dec 20, 2009 3:27 PM CST up reply actions  

Im looking forward to following that, too.

"I like my DH like I like my women. Fat , slow and full of power."
by soxshenanigans

by e-gus on Dec 20, 2009 12:46 AM CST up reply actions  

thriced

It's called Sex Panther by Odeon. It's illegal in nine countries... Yep, it's made with bits of real panther, so you know it's good.

They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.

by ElDiablo on Dec 20, 2009 2:06 AM CST up reply actions  

Meanwhile, Burns' career was done at 26.

EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
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by Sox Machine on Dec 19, 2009 2:52 PM CST up reply actions  

27. Sorry.

EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
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by Sox Machine on Dec 19, 2009 2:52 PM CST up reply actions  

That was sad.

His body/gait looked pretty weird, though, so I wasn’t surprised at him having hip issues.

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Dec 19, 2009 4:28 PM CST up reply actions  

he had hip problems... his arm was fine.

he was at a soxfest a few years back… looked like it pained him to walk. felt sorry for him.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Dec 19, 2009 11:06 PM CST up reply actions  

some of our younger friends

might enjoy reading a little history.
Ted Cox’s elegaic piece on Burns
link
Also, in the infamous “Dybzinski fuckhead catastrophe” it was Vance Law that was thrown out after being forced home. See number 4.
link

by gar ridge pride on Dec 19, 2009 11:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Pitch counts

Baseball players, as a group, are better today than they were nearly 30 years ago. Scouting is better and physical training is better.

It wasn’t really that hard for a starter to throw a complete game, because it really wasn’t that hard to get guys out. You could probably toss a complete game without having to break 120.

Even the guys who say “we was tougher in ’dem days” don’t tell you about how they can lift their arms over their head anymore.

by 67WMAQ on Dec 19, 2009 3:02 PM CST up reply actions  

walker had a smooth swing man.

also very smooth in the field. too bad he had those health problems. he was a solid player.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Dec 19, 2009 2:31 PM CST up reply actions  

and the mental capacity to think that he could actually

be a hitting coach in the big leagues. I guess that isn’t his fault, more like KW, Ozzie, Jerry’s.

I wonder if he has found the little hitch that kept Rios from not sucking last year at the plate? If there is any hitting coach in the majors to help Rios get his swing back, it’s Walker. Ahhh we’re fucked.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Dec 19, 2009 3:38 PM CST up reply actions  

oh for crying out loud

its not walkers fault the team hits like broads.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Dec 19, 2009 4:06 PM CST up reply actions  

pardon me if I stepped on your Greg Walker pledge pin

this guy hasn’t shown me anything in the past to warrant a free pass when it comes to coaching our hitters. Too many times the entire batting order goes into 2-week slumps, forgets the basics and don’tt have a clue about a new opposing pitcher. I used to think that was an issue with the Sox advance scouts – I’m not so sure anymore.

He is like the polar opposite of Don Cooper and that frustrates me. If a Sox pitcher is struggling, he usually finds the flaw and fixes it, like Gavin last year. (linebrink just sucks).

I think Greg Walker fucking sucks.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Dec 19, 2009 4:23 PM CST up reply actions  

same

"I like my DH like I like my women. Fat , slow and full of power."
by soxshenanigans

by e-gus on Dec 20, 2009 12:48 AM CST up reply actions  

thriced, again

It's called Sex Panther by Odeon. It's illegal in nine countries... Yep, it's made with bits of real panther, so you know it's good.

They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.

by ElDiablo on Dec 20, 2009 2:08 AM CST up reply actions  

no not really.

Walker, like any coach, has had his share of success and failures. Im not for firing hitting coaches.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Dec 19, 2009 4:55 PM CST up reply actions  

im sure there is circumstances

like fucking the managers wife…. or putting in 0 time… but hitting is based on so many things it is tough in my opinion to blame the hitting coach… In my opinion, 3rd base coaches should be held under fire more than any member of the coaching staff (minus the manager). Their decisions directly effect the outcomes of many games.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Dec 19, 2009 5:04 PM CST up reply actions  

ahh fire em' all!

who needs em, right? Hitters are just supposed to be able to hit, that’s their job. Who needs a friggin pitching coach either? But god forbid that 3rd base coach sends a runner and he gets thrown out - that SOB should be shot on the spot.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Dec 19, 2009 5:09 PM CST up reply actions  

pitching coaches can be held a little more accountable

but go ahead and name me a really good hitting coach and why he is really good?

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Dec 19, 2009 5:19 PM CST up reply actions  

yes.... but I don't see why Walker is worse than any of them.

given his talent he has done ok. I would guess his biggest failure would be Brian Anderson. Alexei seemed to adjust pretty quick to the MLB game, Beckham overcame a bad start, Quentin had a great 2008… i’m pretty sure veteran hitters are going to do their own thing anyway.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Dec 19, 2009 5:32 PM CST up reply actions  

they're paid like league minimum players

Rudy Jaramillo is the highest paid at 800K/yr. so my guess is they aren’t contributing too many wins.

2009 is just 2007 in 2008's clothing. - Trooper

by colintj on Dec 19, 2009 7:49 PM CST up reply actions  

I was there.

Landrum’s dinger flew right to the left of me. Bastard. I can see that game, especially fucking Jerry Dybzynski being thrown out, like it was yesterday. No, like earlier today. Wait, no, like it JUST HAPPENED.

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Dec 19, 2009 4:27 PM CST up reply actions  

dybzynski is a tool no doubt

but after further review… seeing as how the sox couldn’t get a big hit that entire series… don’t you think Leyland should have took a chance and sent Law to the plate?

in any case asshat dibber should have picked up the coach. blah i still get pissed after watching that replay!

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Dec 20, 2009 7:48 AM CST up reply actions  

nobody ever seems to blame Rudy Law

he had a good first three games, but his unclutchiness was high in Game 4. Left 6 guys in scoring position. One bloop hit in the 7th or 9th, and no one remembers Dybzynski.

His name is Rios and he dances on the sand

by Nordhagen on Dec 21, 2009 10:35 AM CST up reply actions  

very true. there was a lot of unclutchiness....

how bout the Bull… he looked awful.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Dec 21, 2009 11:41 AM CST up reply actions  

I'll take Buehrle and Peavy as a 1-2 punch.

Perhaps the Ms have a better one with Lee-Felix.

Rotating DH...what?

by Getzish on Dec 19, 2009 4:17 PM CST reply actions  

Personally

I think our 1-2 punch is Peavy and Floyd…. then Danks…. then Buehrle.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Dec 19, 2009 4:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Please.

Buehrle is our ace until someone also piches a perfect game, a no-hitter, and a win and a save in a World Series. And appears on"American Chopper".

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Dec 19, 2009 4:30 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Buehrle has no WS wins my good man.

You can thank Bobby for that.

Reporter: I was wondering if at any point in my lifetime the Cubs weren't going to be run by a guy who didn't immediately remind me of failure, confusion, or imminent death

by Hazymania on Dec 20, 2009 5:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Since our 1-2 punch is debatable, it's probably not much of a 1-2 punch.

It’s no Lincecum/Cain or Carpenter/Wainwright. Its more of a 1 followed by 3 really solid pitchers.

by chisox2691 on Dec 19, 2009 4:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Almost like 2005.

I’m just sayin’…

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Dec 19, 2009 4:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Exactly. Our 3rd and 4th pitchers can match up with anyone.

Even though I’m not sure who our 3rd and 4th pitchers are at this point.

by chisox2691 on Dec 19, 2009 4:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Our 1-5 starters can match up with anyone

I’m hungry by the way and a nice Italian Sausage, with grilled onion from the ballpark along with an MGD sound perfect.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Dec 19, 2009 4:38 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm dreaming of a polish

Had a girl give me free polishes with grilled onions at the park for a year once. Best summer of my life.

by coffeepac on Dec 19, 2009 5:57 PM CST up reply actions  

14-22 inches expected in BAL

bears game moved to 3:15pm tomorrow. Bears flight Fri night got cancelled and they are flying out tonight.

Not that I ever wager…(cough)….but a good time to fire on BAL (-11) and the Under (39)

Just saying

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Dec 19, 2009 4:42 PM CST reply actions  

you got a mind like a sicilian

that trade could still come back and bite us in the ass! ;)

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Dec 19, 2009 4:59 PM CST up reply actions  

that blizzard has me actually wanting to watch a bears game for the first time in weeks.

"I like my DH like I like my women. Fat , slow and full of power."
by soxshenanigans

by e-gus on Dec 20, 2009 12:51 AM CST up reply actions  

horrible game

but hopefully you all took my original advice. it paid off

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Dec 20, 2009 6:16 PM CST up reply actions  

hsa

when is the vote on the pictures? I have a few in mind

See, this is what happens when the Sox bunt.
Discord is sown. Brother fights brother. Misunderstandings abound.

-TAEG

by blackoutsox on Dec 19, 2009 11:29 PM CST reply actions  

hmm...I'm not sure...that was Cheat's thing, wherever the fuck that guy is. I didn't know if there was going to be follow-up, with a poll to vote formally; or if we were just going to go off of # of recs.

If by recs, without checking in a couple days, billy’s Buehrle was first; followed by tsk’s Call to the ’Pen.

I am not your lady... I am not any kind of a lady! ~ Aldonza

by homesickalien on Dec 20, 2009 10:08 AM CST up reply actions  

ahem. *Gone to the Pen, iirc.

I am not your lady... I am not any kind of a lady! ~ Aldonza

by homesickalien on Dec 20, 2009 10:09 AM CST up reply actions  

sounds like you need to write a fanpost.

"I like my DH like I like my women. Fat , slow and full of power."
by soxshenanigans

by e-gus on Dec 20, 2009 12:52 AM CST up reply actions  

completely agree

If the woman is offering an opinion, you are doing it wrong. - HSA

by BoeJouma on Dec 20, 2009 2:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Thanks for coming

Live and learn I guess

Every good port begins with a slut.

- homesickalien

by Scotty Ballgame on Dec 20, 2009 5:53 PM CST up reply actions  

slipped one past the goalie! congrats!

These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.

by thatshortkid on Dec 20, 2009 5:59 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

good luck

its a lot of work if you do it right. your nights of drunken SSS postings will be coming to an end in 9 months or so haha. Its great though. congrats.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Dec 21, 2009 1:29 AM CST up reply actions  

yeah

but they can be just as crazy when he has some no sleep for 4 months and im cramming a bottle in this kids mouth at 4am posts.

"I like my DH like I like my women. Fat , slow and full of power."
by soxshenanigans

by e-gus on Dec 21, 2009 12:18 PM CST up reply actions  

lol yah those will be entertaining.

My 2nd is due in Jan. so right around opening day i will be doing that :)

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Dec 21, 2009 1:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Your boys know how to swim.

Excellent. I’m sure Trooper and you are going to bond over the next 2-3 years.

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Dec 21, 2009 10:22 AM CST up reply actions  

so you know

just because you had sex with a woman doesn’t mean she’s pregnant. congrats on losing your virginity.

by larry on Dec 21, 2009 10:50 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm thinking she's only telling him the kid is his.

"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "

by Chiburb on Dec 21, 2009 10:54 AM CST up reply actions  

My thought was that he finally turned her over.

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Dec 21, 2009 11:02 AM CST up reply actions  

Thanks everyone for your inspired commentary!

And General Well-wishing. (no relation to General Soreness)

Reporter: I was wondering if at any point in my lifetime the Cubs weren't going to be run by a guy who didn't immediately remind me of failure, confusion, or imminent death

by Hazymania on Dec 22, 2009 12:30 AM CST up reply actions  

So how about the Sox trying to get Lowell for cheap from Boston?

"Let’s plunge ourselves into the roar of time, the whirl of accident; may pain and pleasure, success and failure, shift as they will- it’s only action that can make a man" Faust, Goethe

by Ahillock on Dec 20, 2009 5:47 PM CST reply actions  

I've been sacked

for negligence, can’t wait to see my brief in the morning

by hoodlight on Dec 20, 2009 6:24 PM CST reply actions  

best of luck finding a new job hoodie

" Do you guys know people like you are the reason I wouldn’t come on for exstended periods of time. You rui the baseball blogging expieriance."
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT

by U-God on Dec 20, 2009 7:07 PM CST up reply actions  

That blows

You should have jumped on your desk and started singing that Amy Winehouse tune that your drinking buddy annoys the shit out of everyone with.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Dec 20, 2009 7:46 PM CST up reply actions  

what did you do wrong?

how do they define “negligence” across the pond?

"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "

by Chiburb on Dec 21, 2009 10:24 AM CST up reply actions  

i bet it was the ms paint drawing on the clock.

seriously though, that sucks hoody.

"I like my DH like I like my women. Fat , slow and full of power."
by soxshenanigans

by e-gus on Dec 21, 2009 12:20 PM CST up reply actions  

:) Cheers to you and your agile bird.

I am not your lady... I am not any kind of a lady! ~ Aldonza

by homesickalien on Dec 21, 2009 12:47 PM CST up reply actions  

she's English and from Leeds

and is single and it’s Christmas – that’s a shoe in.

by hoodlight on Dec 21, 2009 1:27 PM CST up reply actions  

shoe in?

you may be doing it wrong.

by mick10 on Dec 21, 2009 2:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Wait, they're metric.

GDI. My non-funny joke is even less funny.

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Dec 21, 2009 2:08 PM CST up reply actions  

It's ok, she's a meter made!

"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "

by Chiburb on Dec 21, 2009 2:11 PM CST up reply actions  

nah you're good

2009 is just 2007 in 2008's clothing. - Trooper

by colintj on Dec 21, 2009 2:25 PM CST up reply actions  

bada bing!

2009 is just 2007 in 2008's clothing. - Trooper

by colintj on Dec 21, 2009 2:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Fuck Mike McCarthy and Dom Capers.

You stupid asslickers, coach a more disciplined team.

The 2009 White Sox....like a 40 degree day.

by Ozzie Montana on Dec 20, 2009 7:08 PM CST reply actions  

personally i hate the daily anthem routine.

are we really that insecure of our xenophobia?

what really makes america great are websites like this, where you can say cunt and cocksucker freely.

by Hatchetm on Dec 21, 2009 9:19 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

I don't mind the anthem because it's the only time the UC gets loud during Bulls games

Well, outside of the Dunkin Donuts race.

The 2009 White Sox....like a 40 degree day.

by Ozzie Montana on Dec 21, 2009 11:22 AM CST up reply actions  

I believe if you really want the crowd to get jacked up at the beginning of all games

the song played ought to be “The Stroke”, by a Mr. William Squier.

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Dec 21, 2009 11:49 AM CST up reply actions  

I've been to games where fans actually boo if the Bulls don't run up the score.

Fat bastards don’t realize McDonalds takes the coupon regardless what happens, same for DD.

The 2009 White Sox....like a 40 degree day.

by Ozzie Montana on Dec 21, 2009 4:00 PM CST up reply actions  

and here is one of the nominees

for chicago player of the decade. (from the trib)

Mark Buehrle: No hitter, perfect game, 2-0 with save in World Series, started longest World Series game in history

not bad. 3 things correct and only 2 mistakes.. mercy. LINK

the suck is not just a river in ireland.

by BuehrleMan on Dec 21, 2009 10:01 AM CST reply actions  

Is it great or sad that Buehrle is runing away with it?

And I may get flamed for this, but I’d put Sammy Sosa on this list.

The 2009 White Sox....like a 40 degree day.

by Ozzie Montana on Dec 21, 2009 11:27 AM CST up reply actions  

i'll tell you what's sad.

there are 10 choices in that motherfucking poll for “unforgettable moment of the decade” and the white sox winning the world series isn’t one of them. idiots.

the suck is not just a river in ireland.

by BuehrleMan on Dec 21, 2009 11:37 AM CST up reply actions  

Why would it be?

It was the Sox vs. Astros. We won it on the road. The Sox are a great draw with gang kids (hats/shirts) but the rest of the country outside the SSS area could give a flip.

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Dec 21, 2009 11:43 AM CST up reply actions  

I missed that it was local.

Of course, the Trib is not necessarily even-handed in their coverage.

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Dec 21, 2009 1:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Less talking on what you don't know about........ ;)

I am not your lady... I am not any kind of a lady! ~ Aldonza

by homesickalien on Dec 21, 2009 6:40 PM CST up reply actions  

The women's lacrosse team has taken the lead

Effin’ brilliant!

Reporter: I was wondering if at any point in my lifetime the Cubs weren't going to be run by a guy who didn't immediately remind me of failure, confusion, or imminent death

by Hazymania on Dec 22, 2009 12:36 AM CST up reply actions  

looks like they're trying to fix their mistakes one at a time. unfortunately, they have failed.

it now reads

Mark Buehrle: No hitter, perfect game, 1-0 with save in World Series, started longest World Series game in history

the suck is not just a river in ireland.

by BuehrleMan on Dec 22, 2009 8:20 AM CST up reply actions  

Jeez, this thread is still alive? Anyway, I have the PERFECT signing solution:

Ray Lewis! Why? Cuz yesterday Super Bowl Winning Chicago Bear Tom Thayer told me that the reason for the Ravens success is due to… are you ready?…

The I-N-S-P-I-R-A-T-I-O-N provided by team leader Ray Lewis!

Since anyone can play first, it seems logical that we replace our half-man, half-ass Kaptain K with a REAL leader of men.

I bet he “wants it” more too.

"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "

by Chiburb on Dec 21, 2009 10:10 AM CST reply actions  

Everyone needs to be fired immediately.

Not just the coaches or players or Bears’ employees either. Literally every person who currently has any job in any profession needs to be fired right now.

by The Actual El Guapo on Dec 21, 2009 10:20 AM CST up reply actions  

Starting with the lawyers.

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Dec 21, 2009 10:23 AM CST up reply actions  

Wouldn't that be great...

Just a “Redo”.. oh the madness that would ensue. Would make for a fun few weeks, for those of us with no real responsibilities at least.

by Grinder in Training on Dec 21, 2009 10:25 AM CST up reply actions  

"Down here".

You’ve relocated? NOW I get it. You did not have Internet access for many months!

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Dec 21, 2009 11:47 AM CST up reply actions  

Whoever buys your horses*** can fire you.

Get cracking.

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Dec 21, 2009 11:00 AM CST up reply actions  

I believe the inspiration Ray provides is along the lines of

“If you fail I will murder you. No one will mind because I talk about Jesus a lot and I’m a scary black man.”

The 2009 White Sox....like a 40 degree day.

by Ozzie Montana on Dec 21, 2009 11:24 AM CST up reply actions  

You have to admit Konerko is a pretty piss poor captain.

A captain should be a little more vocal…. or should at least be alive.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Dec 21, 2009 11:44 AM CST up reply actions  

When I think of "holler guy" leaders, I think of Larry Bowa.

That guy, he could lead. I’d follow him to the ends of the Earth.

Lee Elia, I’d follow him into Hell.

Loud = Leadership. Harold Baines is not a leader.

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Dec 21, 2009 11:46 AM CST up reply actions  

Id rather harold be the team captain

he was just quiet…. konerko seems to be aloof.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Dec 21, 2009 11:47 AM CST up reply actions  

Nice interpretation.

“Eeyore” = “aloof”. I must be misinterpreting my cartoon characters.

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Dec 21, 2009 11:50 AM CST up reply actions  

I have showered next to Harold and observed him in a clubhouse environ.

Not Paulie. Thus, I can’t make a comparison.

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Dec 21, 2009 11:52 AM CST up reply actions  

You had me at "hello".

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Dec 21, 2009 1:02 PM CST up reply actions  

I'll grant you this -

when you return from an absence, you are hard to ignore.

Rec’d.

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Dec 21, 2009 12:40 PM CST up reply actions  

I think I've rec'd everything he's said since returning.

I am not your lady... I am not any kind of a lady! ~ Aldonza

by homesickalien on Dec 21, 2009 12:45 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Duke point guards generally don't disappear for months at a time.

General/Coach “K” does not allow it. You are an Orlando Magic point guard named Jameer Nelson. An All-Star, but flighty and highly unpredictable.

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Dec 21, 2009 1:01 PM CST up reply actions  

... but I don't wanna be Jameer Nelson!

I want to be someone tall … like Ben Poquette or Granville Waiters or Fred Gwynne.

by The Actual El Guapo on Dec 21, 2009 1:07 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

what ever happened to Bobby Hurley?

"I like my DH like I like my women. Fat , slow and full of power."
by soxshenanigans

by e-gus on Dec 21, 2009 7:27 PM CST up reply actions  

Car accident.

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Dec 21, 2009 7:52 PM CST up reply actions  

I doubt baseball teams that play for 5 months continuously need the same over the top histronics a football team goes through on Sundays.

I’m indifferent to Konerko, but it seems as long as the majority of the guys in the clubhouse get along that’s all that really matters.

The 2009 White Sox....like a 40 degree day.

by Ozzie Montana on Dec 21, 2009 12:25 PM CST up reply actions  

BP comments on the Sox offseason's activity:
Like Tom Cruise’s Maverick character all those years ago in Top Gun, White Sox manager Ozzie Guillen has long expressed his need for speed. He got it this past week when the White Sox made a contribution to the Frank and Jamie McCourt Divorce Fund by taking outfielder Juan Pierre off the Dodgers’ hands in a trade. Just about every move the White Sox have made since the latter part of last season has been with an eye toward making their roster unleaded. They picked outfielder Alex Rios off the waiver wire from the Blue Jays, and traded designated hitter Jim Thome to the Dodgers in August. They then declined to exercise the option year in right fielder Jermaine Dye’s contract in November before dealing for Pierre, who will presumably play center field and bat leadoff.
“We have a more athletic ballclub and can do a lot of things,” Guillen said. “And I was looking for the challenge to see how good I can be, moving the pieces the way I like to move them. I always want teams with pitching, defense and speed. We’ve had teams with pitching and defense before but never one with the speed we have now.”
General manager Ken Williams admits he would feel better about the White Sox’ chances to win in 2010 if he could add a left-handed power bat to the middle of the lineup. Guillen, though, says he likes the club he has now. Thus, Williams concedes the White Sox are pretty much done with making roster moves this winter after also signing reliever J.J. Putz, infielder Omar Vizquel, and outfielder Andruw Jones as free agents. “I certainly don’t want to do anything from my seat that conflicts with what my manager wants, so regardless if I think there may be a need for a bigger left-handed bat in the middle of the lineup, he’s the one in there and I fully support how he and his coaching staff see the situation fitting,” Williams said.

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=9868

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Dec 21, 2009 11:08 AM CST reply actions  

If they're worried about speed

why not sign Johnny Damon to DH. A move I guess I could endorse if it isn’t crazy expensive

by joewho112 on Dec 21, 2009 11:13 AM CST up reply actions  

It will be expensive..

There are cheaper options, and regardless what Ozzie says, we really don’t need our DH to play the field with the flexibility we have on this roster.

Not to mention, if we spend that much money on Damon I think it means this offseason is a bust for KW. If that much cash was on hand you go for Adrian Beltre instead of Damon & Teahan, then sign a DH on the cheap like Thome and you’re probably close to equal on contracts, and a better team. (I’m assuming Damon around 6 – 8 mil. per year at minimum, Teahan at 4).

by Grinder in Training on Dec 21, 2009 11:29 AM CST up reply actions  

I would think that Beltre would cost much more than $10mm/yr based on Figguns contract

But I agree that Thome + Beltre is better than Damon + Teahan.

My point was that if you decide you’re going to make a conscious effort to avoid “Station-to-Station” guys in favor of guys who can go from first to third on a single (not a strategy I necessarily agree with), Johnny Damon is a better option than most.

by joewho112 on Dec 21, 2009 11:44 AM CST up reply actions  

He wants $13MM/year, which is why the Spanks kissed him off.

I believe they offered $6.5MM. He’s holding out for more than that.

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Dec 21, 2009 11:51 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah..

That’s why I suggested 6 – 8 as a minimum, I think Joe is underestimating what Damon will get.
Damon + Teahan will be at least comparable to Beltre’s deal (although Beltre probably gets at least a third year).

My point was that Damon is not a better option if you’re going that route. If you have enough money to sign him, you had enough money to sign a real baseball player in Adrian Beltre, and could have used your resources more effectively.

Which is the exact reason I think we don’t have enough money for Damon, b/c I assume KW would have sat on the Teahan deal and waited to see what Beltre got on the free market if we did.

by Grinder in Training on Dec 21, 2009 1:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Wanting $13 mil and getting $13 mil are very different things

Cashman even said his was overpaying with $6.5 mil out of loyalty. The market for shitty fielding, over the hill OF/DH’s isn’t great.

And I would again like to point out, I personally don’t think Damon at DH + Teahan at 3B > Beltre at 3B + (One of Cust/Thome/Delgado/Vlad). I simply mean that if you want a DH who can run a little; Damon isn’t a bad choice

by joewho112 on Dec 21, 2009 1:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Who said he was going to get $13MM?

Looks like the comp should’ve been Pierre vs. Damon. Both rag-armed, both sort of OK in LF, both with speed, though Damon is much more powerful.

What’s Damon’s WAR vs. Pierre?

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Dec 21, 2009 1:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Damon 3 WAR in 2009. Pierre 1.8 WAR

Damon had around -9 runs due to fielding, I assume that is less than the positional adjustment for LF to DH (but I could be wrong), so that would go up if he was a DH

by joewho112 on Dec 21, 2009 1:30 PM CST up reply actions  

maybe i should make this my sig.

JUAN PIERRE IS NOT FUCKING PLAYING FUCKING CENTER FIELD.
(unless rios is being rested or injured)

the suck is not just a river in ireland.

by BuehrleMan on Dec 21, 2009 11:24 AM CST up reply actions  

Request

I don’t know if larry and Cheat are taklng requests, but I personally would love to see a posting by the end of the year providing their perpsectives on the White Sox off season moves to date and also their opinions on what still needs to be done (linited to 300 words or less — always tougher when the legal brief has a page limit). Perhaps they could be posted together (without knowing what the other is going to say), and that would allow the rest of us to agree, disagree, etc. While I wouldn’t expect a lot of disagreements, the two perspectives side by side would be interesting to me and others as well, I’m sure. I know I’m kind fo a jerk for even suggesting a homework assignment like this, especially during winter break, but I know I would enjoy it. And I wouldn’t ask if I didn’t truly appreciate what you two have to say.

by palehose67 on Dec 21, 2009 12:11 PM CST reply actions  

Do not ask for things on SSS

You will be branded with a nickname and can only MS Paint your way out of it

signature

by billyok on Dec 21, 2009 12:30 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

Who is this "Cheat" fellow/woman?

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Dec 21, 2009 12:41 PM CST up reply actions  

We need a new thread. Anyone got a link or anything? Something? Anyone? Someone? Anybody? You? Maybe you?

I’m super busy at work, else I’d scour myself….

I am not your lady... I am not any kind of a lady! ~ Aldonza

by homesickalien on Dec 21, 2009 12:53 PM CST reply actions  

Considering the occupational hazards of being a portslut...

I would have thought you scoured yourself daily.

There's Your Zagnut!!!

by DrEmilioLizardo on Dec 21, 2009 7:50 PM CST up reply actions  

everyone's favorite player, danny richar signs

a minor league deal with florida

bird law in this country is not ruled by reason

by soxshenanigans on Dec 21, 2009 1:46 PM CST reply actions  

given the same opportunity as Getz got

my thinking is Richar would have probably done better…. not by much… but better nonetheless.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Dec 21, 2009 1:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Fer Chrissakes.

Induce your wife, already. You have become a lunatic. ;)

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Dec 21, 2009 1:50 PM CST up reply actions  

This thread has more longevity than my first marriage.

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Dec 21, 2009 2:13 PM CST reply actions  

I don't remember when it started.

I think the boys are waiting for the girl to post a new one… as long as she’s up.

"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "

by Chiburb on Dec 21, 2009 3:00 PM CST up reply actions  

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