To DH or not to DH.....
Probably best to get some fresh thread blood up for the weekend.
Here is a warm and cozy place to kick back and continue pondering the remaining, possibly tragic (hence the title) 2010 roster hole: DH.
Is Thome waiting by the phone, as Mitch. depicted in his "Gentleman on Velvet"?
Should we pursue Cust/Delgado/Vlad/any other oafish sluggers?
How about that Rotating DH idea (Kotsay/Vizquel/Jones)? Would Ozzie really do that to us?
I hope you don't mind the itchy-scab-scented incense I'm burning from the last thread. I promise there are a couple new wounds after the jump.
Touché!
~Sox claim Freddy Dolsi for the 40-man and a potential bullpen spot. (Yarmulke-tip to joewho112.)
Dolsi, 26, was 4-3 with a 3.83 ERA and 10 saves in 39 games with Class AAA Toledo last season. He also was 1-0 with a 1.69 ERA in six games with the Tigers. He has spent seven seasons in the Tigers' minor leagues.
~Jim at SoxMachine already compiled the worstuv position players list, and here is his take on the awfulest of awful Sox mound-dwellers of the past decade.
~The Mariners continue to assemble quite the pretty little team...most recently at the expense of those cross-town losers. M's dumped Carlos Silva to the Cubs for Milton Bradley.
Where better for sensitive-skinned Bradley to go, than the city of pussies! Makes perfect sense to me! I bet he didn't even enjoy jaywalking in Chicago!
In case you weren't keeping track, that's Chone Figggguhns + Cliff Lee + Milton Bradley to the M's this offseason. They are quickly emerging as the AL West team to beat. Should be lots of no fun for yours truly, so I'm going to enjoy this now, while I can just make fun of the Cubs for such a crappy trade.
If you're bored and curious, take a peak over at LookoutLanding, where entertainment always abounds.
I wouldn't be surprised if there's something fun happening on BCB too. Feel free to use the comments to link to any memorable posts from either.
~It's the weekend before Christmas and since most of you are god-fearers, you'll probably be hitting the shopping malls with all the other good Christians. Good luck with that! Try to not get trampled to death in the name of Baby Jesus.
So to get and stay in the spirit, here is my favorite Christmas song...I've heard "better" versions, but this one always puts me right in the Christ is born! sort of mood. Enjoy!
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Gotta love how some are convinced
that Silva is magically going to become a 5th starter because he is playing for the Cubs. Remember who they were saying that about last year? The Cubs are not a magical force.
I'll edit that into the post, thanks!
I am not your lady... I am not any kind of a lady! ~ Aldonza
by homesickalien on Dec 18, 2009 2:12 PM CST up reply actions
The comment there:
That’s huge! And people keep saying Kenny sucks.
sigh
"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "
yes, but
sliced bagel>sliced bread
-Jeeves Life in the Cell
i hate the DH...
and wait to rejoice on that glorious day when it is removed from MLB.
F pitchers hitting! Go back to the NL, Molly Hatchett!
"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "
by Chiburb on Dec 18, 2009 2:14 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
DH! Fuck yeah!
Watching pitchers hit is like watching kickers tackle.
His name is Rios and he dances on the sand
by Nordhagen on Dec 18, 2009 9:30 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
OMG. If you haven't heard the Xmas carol that HSA linked to, go now...
Be sure to hear the 1:15, 2:00 and later marks to fully appreciate this.
UFR
"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "
I listen to it year-round. It never fails to bring me to tearful laughter.
I am not your lady... I am not any kind of a lady! ~ Aldonza
by homesickalien on Dec 18, 2009 2:16 PM CST up reply actions
I'm partial to 3:07ish, when he goes from 2 octaves above dog hearing range, to his chest voice on "divine."
I am not your lady... I am not any kind of a lady! ~ Aldonza
by homesickalien on Dec 18, 2009 3:17 PM CST up reply actions
2:58 EST, CST, GMT, etc.
3:07 is PST. ;)
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
Someone kick gramps,
he’s babbling in numbers and time zones again.
by The Actual El Guapo on Dec 18, 2009 4:48 PM CST up reply actions
Holy shit.
If the Black Death were a song, that’s what it would sound like.
by The Actual El Guapo on Dec 18, 2009 2:36 PM CST up reply actions
although it sorta sounds like
the screeching violin in the black angel’s death song.
the suck is not just a river in ireland.
Absolutely Brilliant!
Best very of O Holy Night ever.
by Quickly 0 and 2 on Dec 18, 2009 6:07 PM CST up reply actions
Carlos Silva? Why not just buy his damn contract out instead of getting that fat bastard in return.
The 2009 White Sox....like a 40 degree day.
This season, or altogether? Because Silva is making about 5 million more than Bradley.
The 2009 White Sox....like a 40 degree day.
by Ozzie Montana on Dec 18, 2009 2:41 PM CST up reply actions
They are sending $9m cash
Silva is making $3mmore than Bradley for his total contract ($25 m vs $22 m), therefore the CUbs save $6m total or $3m/year.Link
Yup, that's my understanding too.
Makes the deal a good deal less mockable.
by The Actual El Guapo on Dec 18, 2009 2:46 PM CST up reply actions
It's still a terrible trade, just less of a total highway robbery.
I suppose they could cut Silva in spring training and use the leftover savings to sign Byrd, Crisp, Ankiel, etc.
The 2009 White Sox....like a 40 degree day.
by Ozzie Montana on Dec 18, 2009 2:53 PM CST up reply actions
Ummm...
Wouldn’t they still be on the hook for his salary (a la Damion Easley)?
White Sox fan; Jeppson's Malort man
by KarkoviceIsHawt on Dec 18, 2009 4:17 PM CST up reply actions
Liked this blurb...
on the trade:
“M’s unloaded the bloated, $25 mil corpse of Carlos Silva in Bradley trade. I’d acquire Stalin if it meant ditching Silva.”
might as well see if he can stick as 5th starter
if he doesn’t then cut him loose
fun fact about silva: In 2005 he gave up 9 walks total (2 IBB). If you take a peak at the leaderboard for lowest BB/9 you get a bunch of guys from the 1800’s and Carlos Silva.
-Jeeves Life in the Cell
the more i think about it
milton bradley+lookout landing has the potential to be quite entertaining.
right now LL seems generally ecstatic. i won’t completely rule out the possibility that bradley could keep himself together and really produce for them. on the other hand, i don’t know if it’s very likely and i don’t think they know exactly what they may be getting themselves into.
(disclosure: i thought the bradley pickup was going to work out well for the cubs. i was wrong.) (worked out well for me though. i really enjoyed it.)
the suck is not just a river in ireland.
i think milton will perform better in a smaller market, he just needs to stay healthy
i hope he does, fuck the bleacher bum fans
wrapped and sealed with masking tape moistened with sweat experience existence of ignorance
by onlysoxfaninboston on Dec 18, 2009 2:45 PM CST up reply actions
Milton has done a laid back, small market
Stint. That would be San Diego where he started great and then tore his ACL during the pennant stetch while going apeshit during an arguement with an umpire. He will implode at some point and blame the media, fans, teammates and stir in some racism for good measure. It will happen as sure as the sun will rise.
by Duck99 on Dec 19, 2009 4:29 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
umm, the umpire was at fault, not milton
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by onlysoxfaninboston on Dec 19, 2009 6:32 PM CST up reply actions
i'm gonna go ahead and say that if you get seriously injured arguing with an umpire as your manager holds you back from attacking said umpire, it's your fault.
maybe you need a refresher on that incident.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?columnist=stark_jayson&id=3033679
i agree, if he controlled his temper, things could've changed a lot for the pads
what was the obscene language that the ump used, b/c he was suspended?
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by onlysoxfaninboston on Dec 20, 2009 11:55 AM CST up reply actions
Fun.
Who wants to go to Seattle…
…for the interleague game to heckle him?!
“Pounding sand since 1982….”
by cubswynn on Dec 18, 2009 1:11 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
They are ditching Silva
I’d be happy if I were them too.
Check back on May 15 when Bradley has accused Starbucks of racism.
There is no such thing as an ugly female breast
by Worf on Dec 18, 2009 1:27 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
The 2009 White Sox....like a 40 degree day.
Hopefully Al can calm his people with a 30,000-word rambling shitfest about who the fuck knows what
signature
Again, I refer you to the reaction to the Hundley deal seven years ago. People said at the time, "Why did the Cubs get those guys? They suck!"
Carlos Silva has sucked the last two years. That does NOT mean he will suck in 2010.
“You can observe a lot just by watching.” ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Dec 18, 2009 10:16 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The 2009 White Sox....like a 40 degree day.
by Ozzie Montana on Dec 18, 2009 2:49 PM CST up reply actions
Grand finale.
Great, he was a bad pitcher on a spreadsheet. At worst, if he is healthy he can be an inning-eater. The Cubs can use one of those.
“You can observe a lot just by watching.” ~ Yogi Berra by Al on Dec 18, 2009 10:18 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The 2009 White Sox....like a 40 degree day.
by Ozzie Montana on Dec 18, 2009 2:51 PM CST up reply actions
i like this one from LL. i don't think they're joking, but i'm not 100% sure.
I think Griffey is going to have a long talk with Bradley
About being a good teammate. And I think it will work out well once he does.
the suck is not just a river in ireland.
Sounds serious to me.
And entirely plausible. He can add Bradley to his Windermere posse of Tiger/MJ/Barkley. That has worked out well so far.
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
I was thinking.... I bet the M's have the money to make these moves solely because of Griffey Returns memorabilia sold last season.
I am not your lady... I am not any kind of a lady! ~ Aldonza
by homesickalien on Dec 18, 2009 3:10 PM CST up reply actions
would anyone care to explain to me please
how to blockquote something, such as the example above, when there are spaces between lines? i tried a couple times but it was all cocked up so i quit.
the suck is not just a river in ireland.
reeee-jected. no play for mister gray.
thanks for nothing. bastards.
the suck is not just a river in ireland.
you need to put line breaks in, rather than pressing enter.
the tag is <br>
example:
<blockquote>hello<br>world</blockquote>
is
hello
world
i’ve been toying with the idea of doing an “html, sbn, and you” FP to at least have some of the quirks documented.
These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.
by thatshortkid on Dec 19, 2009 12:56 PM CST up reply actions
thats a good idea.
except for the putting Linebreak in part.
never do that.
"I like my DH like I like my women. Fat , slow and full of power."
by soxshenanigans
Please do, tsk.
I am not your lady... I am not any kind of a lady! ~ Aldonza
by homesickalien on Dec 20, 2009 11:09 AM CST up reply actions
Good for Hendry
He had to move somebody with negative trade value, tough order. At least they were able to trade him and not just straight up release him.
but in all seriousness
he got 6m worth of salary relief, and traded a useless player for a useless player. why do people think hendry screwed up so bad on this deal? did people think he was going to get anything good for Bradley, from the zero teams that had legitimate interest in him?
He has use-value
But not exchange-value
White Sox fan; Jeppson's Malort man
by KarkoviceIsHawt on Dec 18, 2009 4:20 PM CST up reply actions
Teams had interest in him
But they had no incentive to give the Cubs anything of value.
Kenny Williams and Ozzie Guillen are pretty good at telegraphing player exits, but nobody can beat the one-man trade-value wrecking ball that is Jim Hendry.
EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine
by Sox Machine on Dec 18, 2009 3:08 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
nicely put
wrapped and sealed with masking tape moistened with sweat experience existence of ignorance
by onlysoxfaninboston on Dec 18, 2009 3:48 PM CST up reply actions
true and funny indeed
rec
-Jeeves Life in the Cell
Tim Marchman got no love for KW's moves:
There were lots of less-glamorous moves this week. The one I hated most was the Dodgers shipping Juan Pierre to the Chicago White Sox. It’s not that this is indefensible — Pierre is a moderately useful fourth outfielder who will be paid as such, and it’s not his fault that he’ll be asked to start. The problem here is that it’s the cap on a series of sadly uninspired moves from usually creative White Sox general manager Ken Williams.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/tim_marchman/12/18/marchman.hotstove/1.html
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
I agree with that
The Sox are a team that needs a lot of help and KW has only made small changes.
He improved the pen with a bit with Putz, signed a few back-ups, improved the OF but didn’t make it good per se, and the Teahan move has minimal impact. The Sox are still left with a below average hitting outfield, a mediocre infield and a complete hole at DH.
Maybe a wee bit harsh, no?
I think Beckham and Alexei are better than mediocre, it seems likely Rios will return to his averages, or at least not a total POS like last year, plus we’ve added a full season of Peavy. If we’d signed Peavy in the off-season, would you have considered that a small change? Also, I don’t buy for a second Kenny’s done. He may be, but he may just as well be rope-a-doping the market. Looking desperate doesn’t improve your bargaining position.
In the infield, I'd say
Teahan = Below Average hitting and Fielding
Alexei = A little above average
Beckham = Short term above average, long term an all star
Konerko = About as average as you can get at 1B
AJ = Average
We probably don’t have any all stars in the outfield either even if Rios improves a bit. Altogether, a very average defense and offense. The pitching is better than average so that makes the team altogether a little above average even if you add a solid DH.
At least the 2005 team had good defense and good power.
And folks need to stop with the at least the 05 team had power
People they scored 741 runs that year. A whole 15 more than the diastrous 09 season. I just want runs. I don’t give a damn where they come from.
"Oh well back to work"
"The Sox are a team that needs a lot of help and KW has only made small changes."
Please explain. If you get a full year of Peavy, Q hits and Rios sniffs normalcy this is all a moot point.
Need a lot of help for what? The AL Central???
"Oh well back to work"
The Sox were a 79 win team
If Q stays healthy and hits (not guraunteed) and Rios bounces back (not guraunteed), they pick up a few wins. Peavy adds a few more. If none of the pitchers, Konerko and Beckham get hurt, I’d say that makes the Sox a 87 win team (assuming they pick up an adequate DH).
Maybe good enough to win the AL Central with a little luck, but unlikely to be good enough to win in the playoffs if they face a team with 2 or more good pitchers.
I think mid-high 80s is a decent guess
But I’m more optimistic about the playoffs. The rotation/bullpen back-end could be downright scary in a five game series, at the least.
White Sox fan; Jeppson's Malort man
by KarkoviceIsHawt on Dec 18, 2009 4:32 PM CST up reply actions
But you could say the same for most of the other playoff caliber teams
Seattle has Henandez & Lee. Boston has Beckett & Lackey. NY has Sabathia & Burnett. They all stack up with Peavy & Buerhle, but those teams can all hit.
Fair enough
White Sox fan; Jeppson's Malort man
by KarkoviceIsHawt on Dec 18, 2009 4:44 PM CST up reply actions
neither beckett nor lackey is the best pitcher on the red sox.
lester is.
the suck is not just a river in ireland.
prob not
he’s cured, isn’t he?
"...but the devil lives inside this kid, I swear it. It rises out of him in a mist, this baby-faced defiant wrathful version of Pat Kane, escapes his bodily confines to perform satanic miracles all over the offensive zone. The only thing more fearsome than that assist was the keep-in preceding it. The only thing more unholy than his face is his black magic." GMH
it was cancer
I don’t think you’re ever ‘cured’. You just hope to beat it into sufficient remission that your body can control it.
right
poor word choice with the “cure” there
"...but the devil lives inside this kid, I swear it. It rises out of him in a mist, this baby-faced defiant wrathful version of Pat Kane, escapes his bodily confines to perform satanic miracles all over the offensive zone. The only thing more fearsome than that assist was the keep-in preceding it. The only thing more unholy than his face is his black magic." GMH
nah, just not funny. ;)
I am not your lady... I am not any kind of a lady! ~ Aldonza
by homesickalien on Dec 18, 2009 4:59 PM CST up reply actions
Even without Dice-K, right?
Lester-Beckett-Lackey-Bucholtz-Wakefield? Bucholtz was above league average (111 OPS+) last year in a half season. That’s ridiculous outta your 4.
The sox won 79 games last year and they stunk it up all year.
We have Beckham, Rios and Peavy for a full year. We should have a healthy Quentin. We’ve upgraded our leadoff hitter and left fielder. Teahen is much better than Getz and Garcia is much better than Colon. Our outfield defense will be much better and our infield defense should be improved too with Beckham at second and Che with a year under his belt. Bullpen is questionable but no more so than last year.
This team could easily win 95 games if everyone stays healthy. My christmas gift would be a solid left handed bat to play rf and move Q to dh. If we don’t do anything else, we should still win the division.
on what basis would one assert that "we should have a healthy quentin".
the offense is still a joke. the pitching and defense better be better than advertised.
No shit, Bwana.
Alchemy will be needed to get to 85 wins.
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
I would assert that his injury history speaks for itself.
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
Yeah he's a china doll. No argument there.
I’d take135-140 games of solid production.
"Oh well back to work"
I hope not.

That would be tough to look at all year.
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
I think moving becks to 2nd improves his WAR from third though
See, this is what happens when the Sox bunt.
Discord is sown. Brother fights brother. Misunderstandings abound.
-TAEG
If we're waiting for them to assemble a team that would be favored to beat the Yankees or Red Sox in a playoff series this season,
I think we’re going to be waiting a long time.
by The Actual El Guapo on Dec 18, 2009 4:39 PM CST up reply actions
that guy can kiss my fucking ass right downtown
and print it!
the suck is not just a river in ireland.
So with the two DH moves of the past 18 hours...
what teams are still in the market for a DH? Anyone besides Texas? Maybe KC?
And the other question I’d have is — are guys like Vlad and Glaus considered (around the league) as DHs only at this point? This is nothing more than a wild-ass guess but I tend to think KW has more interest in one of those two rather than Cust and Thome because it allows them some more flexibility (Glaus could probably put on a glove for interleague, ditto Vlad). I remain optimistic that KW is waiting for the asking prices on those guys to come down (or at least that’s my hope).
Either way, it's a tweak.
Not Earth-shaking, Shock and Awe-inspring. Lotsa flotsam and jetsam.
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
well, kenny did say this
“Regardless if I think there might be a need for another left-handed bat in middle of the lineup, he’s the one in there, and I fully support how he sees the situation fitting and piecing it together. We’ll continue to think about it. We have time, but not a whole lot, before we set a course of action.”
(the “he” referring to ozzie) so i’m thinking if they are going to get a DH, a lefty is more likely.
link
the suck is not just a river in ireland.
Are you extolling the Alou brothers again?
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
Google is your friend.
Learn some SF area baseball history, you POS. You live there, fer Chrissakes.
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
SF area baseball history can suck my left nut
I didn’t know that the Alou brothers were bible thumpers;) Hooray Jesus!
FUCK EVYTHING BACON RULZ WEER GONNA WIN TEH CHAMPSHIOP
...colintj, Nov8, 2009
uh what?
wrapped and sealed with masking tape moistened with sweat experience existence of ignorance
by onlysoxfaninboston on Dec 18, 2009 3:50 PM CST up reply actions
Major party in my mouth: burger on a French roll, covered with melted swiss and cheddar, dipped in a peppery au jus.
fuuuuuuuuuucckkkk yessssssssssssssssahhh

I am not your lady... I am not any kind of a lady! ~ Aldonza
I vote for Randy Winn or Thome, but not to stand pat. That's just asinine.
I dunno how they’re going to keep Santos. I think they’re trying to make Flowers into a backup catcher/DH extraordinaire, but it isn’t like they can’t pick up one of those guys and a catcher or two for scraps and call it an offseason.
I wonder why ESPN has our depth chart listed as they do. According to them AJ will be on the bench. What happened to Thornton? Why is Jones playing outfield?

"Let’s plunge ourselves into the roar of time, the whirl of accident; may pain and pleasure, success and failure, shift as they will- it’s only action that can make a man" Faust, Goethe
It was meant as a joke. Lighten up. :)
"Let’s plunge ourselves into the roar of time, the whirl of accident; may pain and pleasure, success and failure, shift as they will- it’s only action that can make a man" Faust, Goethe
Why is Dewayne Wise still on the team?
EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine
Never let go, Jim.
I am not your lady... I am not any kind of a lady! ~ Aldonza
by homesickalien on Dec 18, 2009 11:19 PM CST up reply actions
i know why
its espn. they should just stick to choking down the lakers’ and red sawx’ dicks.
If the woman is offering an opinion, you are doing it wrong. - HSA
flagged for lack of yankee deep throating
bird law in this country is not ruled by reason
by soxshenanigans on Dec 19, 2009 11:17 AM CST up reply actions
Cora comes before him
See, this is what happens when the Sox bunt.
Discord is sown. Brother fights brother. Misunderstandings abound.
-TAEG
So says Mrs. Cowley.
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
by winningugly on Dec 19, 2009 4:22 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
don't screw with the little man in the blue spandex, barbed wire tat and super cool stoner necklace

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 19, 2009 4:27 PM CST up reply actions
We need a left-handed bat
So I don’t think Vlad or Glaus are coming to the Sox. A left-hander that could also play a position occasionally will be Kenny’s target. So that rules out Thome.
Maybe Carlos Delgado is a possibility? Or is there anything to some of the earlier rumors about Adrian Gonzalez? Johnny Damon is out of our price range and a Boras client, but it sure would be sweet to add him to this team. Randy Winn – ehh – not so much.
by Quickly 0 and 2 on Dec 18, 2009 6:27 PM CST reply actions
No one should care that Thome can't play the field and Winn plays a great outfield.
The Sox don’t need a lefty hitter, they need a good hitter.
by Daniel Berlyn on Dec 18, 2009 7:03 PM CST up reply actions
Randy Winn sucked offensively last year.
And given his age, that might not be an aberration. I’d rather have Thome (or even stand pat) than throw money after him.
Winn is more valuable if he can field the way he has. If he hits, that's a bonus.
I haven’t heard of any teams offering him a contract and if the Sox can offer him 400 ABs that’s probably better than what he’ll find anywhere else. They could probably get either for cheap but there’s no reason to stand pat.
by Daniel Berlyn on Dec 18, 2009 7:38 PM CST up reply actions
We already have guys in the field though.
We need someone who can DH. The field is covered.
by Grinder in Training on Dec 18, 2009 7:40 PM CST up reply actions
Field well and often, that is.
Something Quentin and Jones haven’t done much of lately.
by Daniel Berlyn on Dec 18, 2009 7:45 PM CST up reply actions
maybe arizona will trade us that brandon allen guy.
"I like my DH like I like my women. Fat , slow and full of power."
by soxshenanigans
Too early to give Flowers a shot at DH full time?
"Let’s plunge ourselves into the roar of time, the whirl of accident; may pain and pleasure, success and failure, shift as they will- it’s only action that can make a man" Faust, Goethe
i say no
his bar is for real, and its better than anyone on the current DH platoon.
"I like my DH like I like my women. Fat , slow and full of power."
by soxshenanigans
bar = bat, after the bar
"I like my DH like I like my women. Fat , slow and full of power."
by soxshenanigans
i swear to god ill kill a kitten if we acquire vlad.
If the woman is offering an opinion, you are doing it wrong. - HSA
I don't like cats so that is a good thing.
"Let’s plunge ourselves into the roar of time, the whirl of accident; may pain and pleasure, success and failure, shift as they will- it’s only action that can make a man" Faust, Goethe
We already know you don't like me,
so that is consistent. Which I am totally comfortable with.
Dogs rule!
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
It's ok, wu. You can be a fan of both. I like both. There is a difference between people who prefer dogs and people who hate cats.
I am not your lady... I am not any kind of a lady! ~ Aldonza
by homesickalien on Dec 18, 2009 11:23 PM CST up reply actions
i also like both
though i do prefer dogs
-Jeeves Life in the Cell
I'm still going to rec mick's comment, fyi.
I am not your lady... I am not any kind of a lady! ~ Aldonza
by homesickalien on Dec 18, 2009 11:24 PM CST up reply actions
No shit! What is up with these people?
I am not your lady... I am not any kind of a lady! ~ Aldonza
by homesickalien on Dec 18, 2009 11:21 PM CST up reply actions
Can't you just post once and be done with it?
There's Your Zagnut!!!
by DrEmilioLizardo on Dec 18, 2009 11:25 PM CST up reply actions
Most of the time I wait for someone else to say something first.
Most of the time.
I am not your lady... I am not any kind of a lady! ~ Aldonza
by homesickalien on Dec 18, 2009 11:26 PM CST up reply actions
Most of the time, I am clear focused all around...

There's Your Zagnut!!!
by DrEmilioLizardo on Dec 18, 2009 11:28 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
v v nice.
I am not your lady... I am not any kind of a lady! ~ Aldonza
by homesickalien on Dec 18, 2009 11:31 PM CST up reply actions
You set em up, I'll knock em down...
That makes you Putz, and me Jenks, with a few less cheesburgers… but only a few.
There's Your Zagnut!!!
by DrEmilioLizardo on Dec 18, 2009 11:36 PM CST up reply actions
And I'm dippin' mine in au jus.
I am not your lady... I am not any kind of a lady! ~ Aldonza
by homesickalien on Dec 19, 2009 12:30 PM CST up reply actions
Can I get a pass?
I’m allergic to the things. The only time I ever lived with one I ended up feeding it in the morning. Fucking lazy hippie roommates
My question is, how come the White Sox don't want to resign Jim Thome?
Seems like a perfect fit to me..
Wrigley Bound in the Summer of 2010
cuz Jim Hendry rulezzzzzzzzzz
waiting with bated breath to see how the end of soriano’s contract plays out
-Jeeves Life in the Cell
poorly. with lots of strikeouts
and JD defense. imagine JD’s month of september for 4 years. Yes, it starts in 2011.
So I just spent an undisclosed amount of time at BCB reading the train wreck that is the Bradley/Silva trade thread
I have to say, if there is a blogging fanbase on the internet that hates each other more than they do over there, I’d like to see it. What a bunch of cat fighting crybabies. And that joke of a managing editor makes me cringe.
And nary a portslut to be seen at that.
Reporter: I was wondering if at any point in my lifetime the Cubs weren't going to be run by a guy who didn't immediately remind me of failure, confusion, or imminent death
by Hazymania on Dec 19, 2009 2:45 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
YEAH! YEAH!
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by Sox Machine on Dec 19, 2009 9:18 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
what a great fuckin game
If the woman is offering an opinion, you are doing it wrong. - HSA
by BoeJouma on Dec 19, 2009 5:58 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
breaking news
mark buehrle hates chicago, loves st. louis! hear what he has to say when receiving the hometown hero award at the jack buck awards.
here’s a LINK to a real lame interview.
the suck is not just a river in ireland.
that guy doesn't know what he's talking about.
keith foulke threw 86-87 MPH? maybe if you’re like this guy and started watching baseball in 2005.
"pitching in Dodger stadium ... may serve as a de facto third pitch."
Does that mean Jake Peavy was a seven-pitch pitcher?
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If your opinion was worth my effort, I would.
by mick10 on Dec 19, 2009 11:08 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
There's an email address to report that. Find it yourself.
I am not your lady... I am not any kind of a lady! ~ Aldonza
by homesickalien on Dec 19, 2009 2:02 PM CST up reply actions
I argued earlier this week with a goof
who called Ely a stud. Talk about pointless conversation.
"Oh well back to work"
masset.
every organization has john ely types. jack egbert, lance broadway, tetsu yofu, danny wright… have all preceded him at birmingham as righties without particularly good fastballs who put up nice stats in AA. maybe he works it out. it’s not a particular concern to trade away guys who are billed as being fifth starters if everything goes right.
well it was the best in the sox minor leagues
according to baseball america
some old ESPN article
Dan Wright, RHP: Can hit 97 mph, with a wicked curve. Strikeout rate is low for someone who throws that hard, meaning that he won’t be ready immediately, like West.
there was a reason he was picked in the first round despite having a 6.00 ERA in college
ive got the bears and sox ones
bought sox, bears as gift.
needless to say, the sox one is on the door this year.
"I like my DH like I like my women. Fat , slow and full of power."
by soxshenanigans
Wait a minute....
Your mom is fucking a sox snowman? What will the neighbors say?
There's Your Zagnut!!!
by DrEmilioLizardo on Dec 21, 2009 6:23 PM CST up reply actions
"most interesting use of a carrot, corncob pipe, and old silk hat i've ever seen."
These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.
by thatshortkid on Dec 21, 2009 8:57 PM CST up reply actions
Idea of the day:
Instead of acquiring a bopper, lets move outfield walls back 10 – 15 feet.
veeck did that in Milwaukee I believe.
"I like my DH like I like my women. Fat , slow and full of power."
by soxshenanigans
Like many I just don't like this lineup.........
it’s obvious they lack left-handed thunder especially in a division with only 2 left-handed starters I can think of (Sowers, Duensing)……we know Ozzie loves Kotsay and my guess is that he has had good discussions with A Jones and is buying the comeback story…..so he’s content to let those two split the DH……..this team is going to be seriously offensively-challenged….I just don’t see it any other way…..
so it’s obviously a rollback move to 2005…..terrific starting pitching…..a shot at a solid pen….and hopefully some timely hitting….and taking advantage of a weak division to get into the post-season….
That said……I’d be shocked if KW is not in touch with the agents for Cust, Huff, Branyan, and/or Delgado……any one of them is really fine with me……sit those guys against lefties and hope AJones can connect with one……and then use Kotsay for 1-2 starts a week at 1B in lieu of washed up PK and maybe a start in the OF to give Q or Rios the occasional rest…..
I was listening until that last part about PK
washed up?
He actually had one of his better seasons defensively last year. Mark Kotsay starting in any capacity for a healthly player on the current roster is not smart. PK will be fine for another year at 1B.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 19, 2009 3:32 PM CST up reply actions
Holy shit
BCB’s editor is so fucking full of himself.
Dude, you are not that smart. Actually what you post is straight up moronic a majority of the time.
example
All of you here know that I was against the signing from the beginning — but I’m not going to say “told you so” here, because even I never imagined that Milton would melt down in the way he would.
It was not that hard to see that the deal was a bad signing, especially compared to what was available at the time. There is a reason every other manager scoffed at the money Bradley was asking for.
One of my biggest pet peeves..
“I’m not going to say I told you so.” No.. you fucking are, that’s exactly what you just did you pompous jackass.
by Grinder in Training on Dec 19, 2009 1:32 PM CST up reply actions
Totally
He is also trying so hard to convince himself and others BCB that Silva is some sort of diamond in the rough, to the point that he is suggesting that he may be a 5th starter. Silva is garbage at this point, he is a reliever at best.
The trade was about getting rid of Bradley’s contract, Silva has nothing to do with it.
Nothing's better than condescension from an anti-intellecutal.
The 2009 White Sox....like a 40 degree day.
by Ozzie Montana on Dec 19, 2009 3:14 PM CST up reply actions
If youre in the mood for a great story with a sad ending....
1983 ALCS Tito Landrum game is on. Wow. I was at this game… I was about to be 4… its one of my earliest memories and my first taste of Sox disappointment!
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wow i love old comiskey.
I want the damn gold railings at the cell… the Golden Boxes! While ur at it give me an upper deck for christ sakes.
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I hardly remember being there
I went a bunch of times but was young.
I do remember skipping school in the 1st grade to go to opening day at the Cell. I remember that I had to say I was sick and could not tell the teacher I went to the baseball game (my teacher was a major jerk)
ugh. if i'm not mistaken, they have those rails at chavez ravine.
pass.
These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.
by thatshortkid on Dec 19, 2009 1:25 PM CST up reply actions
Yankee and Shea Stadium had them, too
Pointless and uncomfortable.
EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
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i like them.
they look good on tv and bring back fond memories. Let me relive it! jerkstore!
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and bring back those 1983 uni's.... fucking boss.
they should wear those every Friday like the Brewers with their 80s jerseys.
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its also really fucking nice
to watch a game where they don’t show or tell you the pitch count 5,000 times. Pussification of america at its finest.
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try way to hard to do what?
the pitch count was never brought up back then. now they start talking about the shit in the third inning. pussification of america.
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Its usually a good indicator of how well the pitcher is doing though
If a pitcher is touching 60-70 pitches through 3, he’s probably tossing up junk. And if he’s maintaining his velo through that, he’s either a. total stud b. going max effort to keep velo and losing deception and movement. Which means that pitcher is about to start coughing up a cornucopia of line drives.
You see it as the pussification of america; I see it as information to guess when a pitcher is about to fall apart. I get all excited when an opposing starter is throwing a lot of pitches.
I see it as a method of protecting an investment
Four of the five pitchers in that ’83 Sox rotation had nothing after age 30; Burns was done well before.
EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
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Burns injury was a chronic hip problem and Hoyt's career ended early because of a drug problem.
Bannister pitched effectively until getting injured at age 34 and Koosman was 40 years old in 1983. Dotson was the only one of the 5 who had an arm injury cut his career short. I agree with you the reason for pitch counts and reduced innings pitched per year are a result of teams protecting investment. I’ve never seen any data proving the strategy has been effective though and I think they are wrong in their approach.
I might've looked at Dotson's page twice for Bannister.
EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
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If Nolan Ryan stays with Texas, it will be interesting to see how their pitchers do going deeper into games.
The problem is college and high school programs have been shortening pitch counts and innings for years too.
the reason pitchers get pulled
is because relievers give up fewer runs per nine. teams should pull a pitcher any time his expected ERA drops below that of the reliever alternative. which means i think teams will start stretching out relievers more and shortening up starters, since there are plenty of starters who have ERAs past 4.50 at season’s end.
2009 is just 2007 in 2008's clothing. - Trooper
do you mean expected ERA rises above?
wrapped and sealed with masking tape moistened with sweat experience existence of ignorance
by onlysoxfaninboston on Dec 20, 2009 10:37 AM CST up reply actions
Im looking forward to following that, too.
"I like my DH like I like my women. Fat , slow and full of power."
by soxshenanigans
Meanwhile, Burns' career was done at 26.
EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
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That was sad.
His body/gait looked pretty weird, though, so I wasn’t surprised at him having hip issues.
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
he had hip problems... his arm was fine.
he was at a soxfest a few years back… looked like it pained him to walk. felt sorry for him.
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some of our younger friends
might enjoy reading a little history.
Ted Cox’s elegaic piece on Burns
link
Also, in the infamous “Dybzinski fuckhead catastrophe” it was Vance Law that was thrown out after being forced home. See number 4.
link
by gar ridge pride on Dec 19, 2009 11:15 PM CST up reply actions
Pitch counts
Baseball players, as a group, are better today than they were nearly 30 years ago. Scouting is better and physical training is better.
It wasn’t really that hard for a starter to throw a complete game, because it really wasn’t that hard to get guys out. You could probably toss a complete game without having to break 120.
Even the guys who say “we was tougher in ’dem days” don’t tell you about how they can lift their arms over their head anymore.
walker had a smooth swing man.
also very smooth in the field. too bad he had those health problems. he was a solid player.
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and the mental capacity to think that he could actually
be a hitting coach in the big leagues. I guess that isn’t his fault, more like KW, Ozzie, Jerry’s.
I wonder if he has found the little hitch that kept Rios from not sucking last year at the plate? If there is any hitting coach in the majors to help Rios get his swing back, it’s Walker. Ahhh we’re fucked.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 19, 2009 3:38 PM CST up reply actions
pardon me if I stepped on your Greg Walker pledge pin
this guy hasn’t shown me anything in the past to warrant a free pass when it comes to coaching our hitters. Too many times the entire batting order goes into 2-week slumps, forgets the basics and don’tt have a clue about a new opposing pitcher. I used to think that was an issue with the Sox advance scouts – I’m not so sure anymore.
He is like the polar opposite of Don Cooper and that frustrates me. If a Sox pitcher is struggling, he usually finds the flaw and fixes it, like Gavin last year. (linebrink just sucks).
I think Greg Walker fucking sucks.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 19, 2009 4:23 PM CST up reply actions
thriced, again
It's called Sex Panther by Odeon. It's illegal in nine countries... Yep, it's made with bits of real panther, so you know it's good.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
It's not to his credit when they hit well either, I suppose.
The 2009 White Sox....like a 40 degree day.
by Ozzie Montana on Dec 19, 2009 4:51 PM CST up reply actions
no not really.
Walker, like any coach, has had his share of success and failures. Im not for firing hitting coaches.
Kenwo4life=ratings
im sure there is circumstances
like fucking the managers wife…. or putting in 0 time… but hitting is based on so many things it is tough in my opinion to blame the hitting coach… In my opinion, 3rd base coaches should be held under fire more than any member of the coaching staff (minus the manager). Their decisions directly effect the outcomes of many games.
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ahh fire em' all!
who needs em, right? Hitters are just supposed to be able to hit, that’s their job. Who needs a friggin pitching coach either? But god forbid that 3rd base coach sends a runner and he gets thrown out - that SOB should be shot on the spot.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 19, 2009 5:09 PM CST up reply actions
pitching coaches can be held a little more accountable
but go ahead and name me a really good hitting coach and why he is really good?
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I have a crazy theory that if all 30 major league teams are paying people to be hitting coaches, there must be value to the work they do when done effectively
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yes.... but I don't see why Walker is worse than any of them.
given his talent he has done ok. I would guess his biggest failure would be Brian Anderson. Alexei seemed to adjust pretty quick to the MLB game, Beckham overcame a bad start, Quentin had a great 2008… i’m pretty sure veteran hitters are going to do their own thing anyway.
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they're paid like league minimum players
Rudy Jaramillo is the highest paid at 800K/yr. so my guess is they aren’t contributing too many wins.
2009 is just 2007 in 2008's clothing. - Trooper
I was there.
Landrum’s dinger flew right to the left of me. Bastard. I can see that game, especially fucking Jerry Dybzynski being thrown out, like it was yesterday. No, like earlier today. Wait, no, like it JUST HAPPENED.
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
dybzynski is a tool no doubt
but after further review… seeing as how the sox couldn’t get a big hit that entire series… don’t you think Leyland should have took a chance and sent Law to the plate?
in any case asshat dibber should have picked up the coach. blah i still get pissed after watching that replay!
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nobody ever seems to blame Rudy Law
he had a good first three games, but his unclutchiness was high in Game 4. Left 6 guys in scoring position. One bloop hit in the 7th or 9th, and no one remembers Dybzynski.
His name is Rios and he dances on the sand
very true. there was a lot of unclutchiness....
how bout the Bull… he looked awful.
Kenwo4life=ratings
Sox should be second
Javy Vazquez has raisins for balls.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 19, 2009 3:41 PM CST up reply actions
I'll take Buehrle and Peavy as a 1-2 punch.
Perhaps the Ms have a better one with Lee-Felix.
Rotating DH...what?
Please.
Buehrle is our ace until someone also piches a perfect game, a no-hitter, and a win and a save in a World Series. And appears on"American Chopper".
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
by winningugly on Dec 19, 2009 4:30 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Buehrle has no WS wins my good man.
You can thank Bobby for that.
Reporter: I was wondering if at any point in my lifetime the Cubs weren't going to be run by a guy who didn't immediately remind me of failure, confusion, or imminent death
Since our 1-2 punch is debatable, it's probably not much of a 1-2 punch.
It’s no Lincecum/Cain or Carpenter/Wainwright. Its more of a 1 followed by 3 really solid pitchers.
Exactly. Our 3rd and 4th pitchers can match up with anyone.
Even though I’m not sure who our 3rd and 4th pitchers are at this point.
Our 1-5 starters can match up with anyone
I’m hungry by the way and a nice Italian Sausage, with grilled onion from the ballpark along with an MGD sound perfect.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 19, 2009 4:38 PM CST up reply actions
I'm dreaming of a polish
Had a girl give me free polishes with grilled onions at the park for a year once. Best summer of my life.
14-22 inches expected in BAL
bears game moved to 3:15pm tomorrow. Bears flight Fri night got cancelled and they are flying out tonight.
Not that I ever wager…(cough)….but a good time to fire on BAL (-11) and the Under (39)
Just saying
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
you got a mind like a sicilian
that trade could still come back and bite us in the ass! ;)
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 19, 2009 4:59 PM CST up reply actions
that blizzard has me actually wanting to watch a bears game for the first time in weeks.
"I like my DH like I like my women. Fat , slow and full of power."
by soxshenanigans
horrible game
but hopefully you all took my original advice. it paid off
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 20, 2009 6:16 PM CST up reply actions
hsa
when is the vote on the pictures? I have a few in mind
See, this is what happens when the Sox bunt.
Discord is sown. Brother fights brother. Misunderstandings abound.
-TAEG
hmm...I'm not sure...that was Cheat's thing, wherever the fuck that guy is. I didn't know if there was going to be follow-up, with a poll to vote formally; or if we were just going to go off of # of recs.
If by recs, without checking in a couple days, billy’s Buehrle was first; followed by tsk’s Call to the ’Pen.
I am not your lady... I am not any kind of a lady! ~ Aldonza
by homesickalien on Dec 20, 2009 10:08 AM CST up reply actions
ahem. *Gone to the Pen, iirc.
I am not your lady... I am not any kind of a lady! ~ Aldonza
by homesickalien on Dec 20, 2009 10:09 AM CST up reply actions
Protip: do not throw a surprise party for a spouse who is planning on dumping you post-holidays
shit might get awkward
do, however, find a way to attend a party in which this scenario is in place
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by billyok on Dec 20, 2009 12:18 AM CST via mobile reply actions 3 recs
sounds like you need to write a fanpost.
"I like my DH like I like my women. Fat , slow and full of power."
by soxshenanigans
Thanks for coming
Live and learn I guess
Every good port begins with a slut.
- homesickalien
by Scotty Ballgame on Dec 20, 2009 5:53 PM CST up reply actions
Don't want to clog the right rail with this news so I'll just post it here.
I’m going to be a dad. This. Is. Awesome.
Reporter: I was wondering if at any point in my lifetime the Cubs weren't going to be run by a guy who didn't immediately remind me of failure, confusion, or imminent death
by Hazymania on Dec 20, 2009 5:34 PM CST reply actions 9 recs
slipped one past the goalie! congrats!
These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.
by thatshortkid on Dec 20, 2009 5:59 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Go Salmon, Go!
There's Your Zagnut!!!
by DrEmilioLizardo on Dec 20, 2009 9:50 PM CST up reply actions
A.) I'm drunk
B.) I’m glad I’m not the only one who is making cracks about salmon spawning upstream and goalies negligent in their duties.
You guys are great. I know I don’t always contribute the most baseball-wise, but know this, I always take something away from a good thread reading.
C.)Im a better fan for this site.
D.)Bitchin.
E.) I have the hiccups and I think I’m going to go sleep for a bit. Call me nutso, but I really would like to have the Gentleman Masher back. Is there a poll about this? Because if there is I vote yes.
Goodnight you guys. Probably.
I shoudl drink more water.
Reporter: I was wondering if at any point in my lifetime the Cubs weren't going to be run by a guy who didn't immediately remind me of failure, confusion, or imminent death
by Hazymania on Dec 21, 2009 12:52 AM CST up reply actions 3 recs
good luck
its a lot of work if you do it right. your nights of drunken SSS postings will be coming to an end in 9 months or so haha. Its great though. congrats.
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yeah
but they can be just as crazy when he has some no sleep for 4 months and im cramming a bottle in this kids mouth at 4am posts.
"I like my DH like I like my women. Fat , slow and full of power."
by soxshenanigans
lol yah those will be entertaining.
My 2nd is due in Jan. so right around opening day i will be doing that :)
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Your boys know how to swim.
Excellent. I’m sure Trooper and you are going to bond over the next 2-3 years.
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
by winningugly on Dec 21, 2009 10:22 AM CST up reply actions
so you know
just because you had sex with a woman doesn’t mean she’s pregnant. congrats on losing your virginity.
I'm thinking she's only telling him the kid is his.
"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "
My thought was that he finally turned her over.
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
by winningugly on Dec 21, 2009 11:02 AM CST up reply actions
well... some are better than others.

There's Your Zagnut!!!
by DrEmilioLizardo on Dec 21, 2009 6:26 PM CST up reply actions
Thanks everyone for your inspired commentary!
And General Well-wishing. (no relation to General Soreness)
Reporter: I was wondering if at any point in my lifetime the Cubs weren't going to be run by a guy who didn't immediately remind me of failure, confusion, or imminent death
So how about the Sox trying to get Lowell for cheap from Boston?
"Let’s plunge ourselves into the roar of time, the whirl of accident; may pain and pleasure, success and failure, shift as they will- it’s only action that can make a man" Faust, Goethe
we're good at those types of deals
bird law in this country is not ruled by reason
by soxshenanigans on Dec 20, 2009 6:13 PM CST up reply actions
best of luck finding a new job hoodie
" Do you guys know people like you are the reason I wouldn’t come on for exstended periods of time. You rui the baseball blogging expieriance."
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT
That blows
You should have jumped on your desk and started singing that Amy Winehouse tune that your drinking buddy annoys the shit out of everyone with.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 20, 2009 7:46 PM CST up reply actions
Steal as much as you can- fuck them.
Hang tough.
There's Your Zagnut!!!
by DrEmilioLizardo on Dec 20, 2009 9:52 PM CST up reply actions
Sounds like an excuse to move to a real country
And see some baseball in person on a regular basis.
by Grinder in Training on Dec 21, 2009 8:44 AM CST up reply actions
what did you do wrong?
how do they define “negligence” across the pond?
"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "
i bet it was the ms paint drawing on the clock.
seriously though, that sucks hoody.
"I like my DH like I like my women. Fat , slow and full of power."
by soxshenanigans
negligence = good excuse to get rid of me
not that I’m that bothered, plenty of money in the bank, Something that I was supposed to be looking after failed because i took my eye off the ball – it’s all very dull but suffice to say my backside is well covered.
I’ll get a new job round March time – can’t be bothered at the moment, plus I met a new bird at the bustop on Friday, she’s not very good looking but she can do the splits so that excuses a lot. So i’ve got plenty of time to practise on her now.
cheers!
by hoodlight on Dec 21, 2009 12:46 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
:) Cheers to you and your agile bird.
I am not your lady... I am not any kind of a lady! ~ Aldonza
by homesickalien on Dec 21, 2009 12:47 PM CST up reply actions
but she has bad teeth.
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by KenWo4LiFe on Dec 21, 2009 1:28 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I need to get some duct tape
for my sides, to stop them from splitting
by hoodlight on Dec 21, 2009 1:49 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
It's the only way she'll ever get a foot from hoodie.
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
by winningugly on Dec 21, 2009 2:01 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Wait, they're metric.
GDI. My non-funny joke is even less funny.
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
Fuck Mike McCarthy and Dom Capers.
You stupid asslickers, coach a more disciplined team.
The 2009 White Sox....like a 40 degree day.
HSA- The singer in your xmas link sounds like a gay vampire.
Hilarious
There's Your Zagnut!!!
by DrEmilioLizardo on Dec 20, 2009 9:59 PM CST reply actions
personally i hate the daily anthem routine.
are we really that insecure of our xenophobia?
what really makes america great are websites like this, where you can say cunt and cocksucker freely.
by Hatchetm on Dec 21, 2009 9:19 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I don't mind the anthem because it's the only time the UC gets loud during Bulls games
Well, outside of the Dunkin Donuts race.
The 2009 White Sox....like a 40 degree day.
by Ozzie Montana on Dec 21, 2009 11:22 AM CST up reply actions
I believe if you really want the crowd to get jacked up at the beginning of all games
the song played ought to be “The Stroke”, by a Mr. William Squier.
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
by winningugly on Dec 21, 2009 11:49 AM CST up reply actions
they get loud if the bulls get close to 100
gotta get that big mac!
-Jeeves Life in the Cell
I've been to games where fans actually boo if the Bulls don't run up the score.
Fat bastards don’t realize McDonalds takes the coupon regardless what happens, same for DD.
The 2009 White Sox....like a 40 degree day.
by Ozzie Montana on Dec 21, 2009 4:00 PM CST up reply actions
you just like Panderers...
There's Your Zagnut!!!
by DrEmilioLizardo on Dec 21, 2009 6:28 PM CST up reply actions
and here is one of the nominees
for chicago player of the decade. (from the trib)
Mark Buehrle: No hitter, perfect game, 2-0 with save in World Series, started longest World Series game in history
not bad. 3 things correct and only 2 mistakes.. mercy. LINK
the suck is not just a river in ireland.
Is it great or sad that Buehrle is runing away with it?
And I may get flamed for this, but I’d put Sammy Sosa on this list.
The 2009 White Sox....like a 40 degree day.
by Ozzie Montana on Dec 21, 2009 11:27 AM CST up reply actions
i'll tell you what's sad.
there are 10 choices in that motherfucking poll for “unforgettable moment of the decade” and the white sox winning the world series isn’t one of them. idiots.
the suck is not just a river in ireland.
Why would it be?
It was the Sox vs. Astros. We won it on the road. The Sox are a great draw with gang kids (hats/shirts) but the rest of the country outside the SSS area could give a flip.
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
by winningugly on Dec 21, 2009 11:43 AM CST up reply actions
I missed that it was local.
Of course, the Trib is not necessarily even-handed in their coverage.
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
Less talking on what you don't know about........ ;)
I am not your lady... I am not any kind of a lady! ~ Aldonza
by homesickalien on Dec 21, 2009 6:40 PM CST up reply actions
But the Sox are winning BIG for Team O The Decade:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/chi-2000-team-decade-poll,0,7783930,post.poll
"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "
The women's lacrosse team has taken the lead
Effin’ brilliant!
Reporter: I was wondering if at any point in my lifetime the Cubs weren't going to be run by a guy who didn't immediately remind me of failure, confusion, or imminent death
looks like they're trying to fix their mistakes one at a time. unfortunately, they have failed.
it now reads
Mark Buehrle: No hitter, perfect game, 1-0 with save in World Series, started longest World Series game in history
the suck is not just a river in ireland.
Jeez, this thread is still alive? Anyway, I have the PERFECT signing solution:
Ray Lewis! Why? Cuz yesterday Super Bowl Winning Chicago Bear Tom Thayer told me that the reason for the Ravens success is due to… are you ready?…
The I-N-S-P-I-R-A-T-I-O-N provided by team leader Ray Lewis!
Since anyone can play first, it seems logical that we replace our half-man, half-ass Kaptain K with a REAL leader of men.
I bet he “wants it” more too.
"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "
Everyone needs to be fired immediately.
Not just the coaches or players or Bears’ employees either. Literally every person who currently has any job in any profession needs to be fired right now.
by The Actual El Guapo on Dec 21, 2009 10:20 AM CST up reply actions
Starting with the lawyers.
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
by winningugly on Dec 21, 2009 10:23 AM CST up reply actions
Wouldn't that be great...
Just a “Redo”.. oh the madness that would ensue. Would make for a fun few weeks, for those of us with no real responsibilities at least.
by Grinder in Training on Dec 21, 2009 10:25 AM CST up reply actions
In Russia, they got it mapped out so that everyone pulls for everyone else ... that's the theory, anyway.
But what I know about is Texas, and down here … you’re on your own
by The Actual El Guapo on Dec 21, 2009 11:41 AM CST up reply actions
"Down here".
You’ve relocated? NOW I get it. You did not have Internet access for many months!
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
by winningugly on Dec 21, 2009 11:47 AM CST up reply actions
Whoever buys your horses*** can fire you.
Get cracking.
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
by winningugly on Dec 21, 2009 11:00 AM CST up reply actions
I believe the inspiration Ray provides is along the lines of
“If you fail I will murder you. No one will mind because I talk about Jesus a lot and I’m a scary black man.”
The 2009 White Sox....like a 40 degree day.
by Ozzie Montana on Dec 21, 2009 11:24 AM CST up reply actions
You have to admit Konerko is a pretty piss poor captain.
A captain should be a little more vocal…. or should at least be alive.
Kenwo4life=ratings
When I think of "holler guy" leaders, I think of Larry Bowa.
That guy, he could lead. I’d follow him to the ends of the Earth.
Lee Elia, I’d follow him into Hell.
Loud = Leadership. Harold Baines is not a leader.
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
by winningugly on Dec 21, 2009 11:46 AM CST up reply actions
Id rather harold be the team captain
he was just quiet…. konerko seems to be aloof.
Kenwo4life=ratings
Nice interpretation.
“Eeyore” = “aloof”. I must be misinterpreting my cartoon characters.
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
by winningugly on Dec 21, 2009 11:50 AM CST up reply actions
I have showered next to Harold and observed him in a clubhouse environ.
Not Paulie. Thus, I can’t make a comparison.
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
by winningugly on Dec 21, 2009 11:52 AM CST up reply actions
True leaders also slap the floor periodically for no apparent reason.
by The Actual El Guapo on Dec 21, 2009 12:07 PM CST up reply actions
I'll grant you this -
when you return from an absence, you are hard to ignore.
Rec’d.
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
by winningugly on Dec 21, 2009 12:40 PM CST up reply actions
I think I've rec'd everything he's said since returning.
I am not your lady... I am not any kind of a lady! ~ Aldonza
by homesickalien on Dec 21, 2009 12:45 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I am the scrappy, Duke point guard of these here webparts.
College major: HEY EVERYONE LOOK AT MEEEEEEE.
by The Actual El Guapo on Dec 21, 2009 12:46 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Duke point guards generally don't disappear for months at a time.
General/Coach “K” does not allow it. You are an Orlando Magic point guard named Jameer Nelson. An All-Star, but flighty and highly unpredictable.
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
... but I don't wanna be Jameer Nelson!
I want to be someone tall … like Ben Poquette or Granville Waiters or Fred Gwynne.
by The Actual El Guapo on Dec 21, 2009 1:07 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
what ever happened to Bobby Hurley?
"I like my DH like I like my women. Fat , slow and full of power."
by soxshenanigans
I doubt baseball teams that play for 5 months continuously need the same over the top histronics a football team goes through on Sundays.
I’m indifferent to Konerko, but it seems as long as the majority of the guys in the clubhouse get along that’s all that really matters.
The 2009 White Sox....like a 40 degree day.
by Ozzie Montana on Dec 21, 2009 12:25 PM CST up reply actions
WHAT YOU HAVE NEVER BEEN IN A ROOM WITH A LOCKER HAVE YOU YOU HAVE TO YELL AND BE SHOUTY
or no one will know that what they are doing is important.
by The Actual El Guapo on Dec 21, 2009 12:37 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
BP comments on the Sox offseason's activity:
Like Tom Cruise’s Maverick character all those years ago in Top Gun, White Sox manager Ozzie Guillen has long expressed his need for speed. He got it this past week when the White Sox made a contribution to the Frank and Jamie McCourt Divorce Fund by taking outfielder Juan Pierre off the Dodgers’ hands in a trade. Just about every move the White Sox have made since the latter part of last season has been with an eye toward making their roster unleaded. They picked outfielder Alex Rios off the waiver wire from the Blue Jays, and traded designated hitter Jim Thome to the Dodgers in August. They then declined to exercise the option year in right fielder Jermaine Dye’s contract in November before dealing for Pierre, who will presumably play center field and bat leadoff.
“We have a more athletic ballclub and can do a lot of things,” Guillen said. “And I was looking for the challenge to see how good I can be, moving the pieces the way I like to move them. I always want teams with pitching, defense and speed. We’ve had teams with pitching and defense before but never one with the speed we have now.”
General manager Ken Williams admits he would feel better about the White Sox’ chances to win in 2010 if he could add a left-handed power bat to the middle of the lineup. Guillen, though, says he likes the club he has now. Thus, Williams concedes the White Sox are pretty much done with making roster moves this winter after also signing reliever J.J. Putz, infielder Omar Vizquel, and outfielder Andruw Jones as free agents. “I certainly don’t want to do anything from my seat that conflicts with what my manager wants, so regardless if I think there may be a need for a bigger left-handed bat in the middle of the lineup, he’s the one in there and I fully support how he and his coaching staff see the situation fitting,” Williams said.
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=9868
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
If they're worried about speed
why not sign Johnny Damon to DH. A move I guess I could endorse if it isn’t crazy expensive
It will be expensive..
There are cheaper options, and regardless what Ozzie says, we really don’t need our DH to play the field with the flexibility we have on this roster.
Not to mention, if we spend that much money on Damon I think it means this offseason is a bust for KW. If that much cash was on hand you go for Adrian Beltre instead of Damon & Teahan, then sign a DH on the cheap like Thome and you’re probably close to equal on contracts, and a better team. (I’m assuming Damon around 6 – 8 mil. per year at minimum, Teahan at 4).
by Grinder in Training on Dec 21, 2009 11:29 AM CST up reply actions
I would think that Beltre would cost much more than $10mm/yr based on Figguns contract
But I agree that Thome + Beltre is better than Damon + Teahan.
My point was that if you decide you’re going to make a conscious effort to avoid “Station-to-Station” guys in favor of guys who can go from first to third on a single (not a strategy I necessarily agree with), Johnny Damon is a better option than most.
He wants $13MM/year, which is why the Spanks kissed him off.
I believe they offered $6.5MM. He’s holding out for more than that.
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
by winningugly on Dec 21, 2009 11:51 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah..
That’s why I suggested 6 – 8 as a minimum, I think Joe is underestimating what Damon will get.
Damon + Teahan will be at least comparable to Beltre’s deal (although Beltre probably gets at least a third year).
My point was that Damon is not a better option if you’re going that route. If you have enough money to sign him, you had enough money to sign a real baseball player in Adrian Beltre, and could have used your resources more effectively.
Which is the exact reason I think we don’t have enough money for Damon, b/c I assume KW would have sat on the Teahan deal and waited to see what Beltre got on the free market if we did.
by Grinder in Training on Dec 21, 2009 1:00 PM CST up reply actions
Wanting $13 mil and getting $13 mil are very different things
Cashman even said his was overpaying with $6.5 mil out of loyalty. The market for shitty fielding, over the hill OF/DH’s isn’t great.
And I would again like to point out, I personally don’t think Damon at DH + Teahan at 3B > Beltre at 3B + (One of Cust/Thome/Delgado/Vlad). I simply mean that if you want a DH who can run a little; Damon isn’t a bad choice
id settle for Cust, Thome or JD too
just get me a hitter so i can sleep at night. AHHHHH
Kenwo4life=ratings
Who said he was going to get $13MM?
Looks like the comp should’ve been Pierre vs. Damon. Both rag-armed, both sort of OK in LF, both with speed, though Damon is much more powerful.
What’s Damon’s WAR vs. Pierre?
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
Damon 3 WAR in 2009. Pierre 1.8 WAR
Damon had around -9 runs due to fielding, I assume that is less than the positional adjustment for LF to DH (but I could be wrong), so that would go up if he was a DH
6.5 is not an overpayment for Damon. He had a hell of a season
I’d be more worried about giving him multiple years
maybe i should make this my sig.
JUAN PIERRE IS NOT FUCKING PLAYING FUCKING CENTER FIELD.
(unless rios is being rested or injured)
the suck is not just a river in ireland.
Also like Mavrick, there is nothing White Sox Manager Ozzie Guillen enjoys more than oiling himself up and playing beach volleyball shirtless with other oiled, shirtless men.
Though Ozzie is significantly more hirsute.
by The Actual El Guapo on Dec 21, 2009 11:38 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Request
I don’t know if larry and Cheat are taklng requests, but I personally would love to see a posting by the end of the year providing their perpsectives on the White Sox off season moves to date and also their opinions on what still needs to be done (linited to 300 words or less — always tougher when the legal brief has a page limit). Perhaps they could be posted together (without knowing what the other is going to say), and that would allow the rest of us to agree, disagree, etc. While I wouldn’t expect a lot of disagreements, the two perspectives side by side would be interesting to me and others as well, I’m sure. I know I’m kind fo a jerk for even suggesting a homework assignment like this, especially during winter break, but I know I would enjoy it. And I wouldn’t ask if I didn’t truly appreciate what you two have to say.
I can name that tune in one note:

by The Actual El Guapo on Dec 21, 2009 12:16 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
No, my apologies -- the picture wasn't in reference to your request, it was to the offseason moves thus far.
It’s an odd-numbered year, so the Sox must need more speed and defense. See also: 2005 and 2007.
by The Actual El Guapo on Dec 21, 2009 12:30 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Do not ask for things on SSS
You will be branded with a nickname and can only MS Paint your way out of it
signature
by billyok on Dec 21, 2009 12:30 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Who is this "Cheat" fellow/woman?
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
by winningugly on Dec 21, 2009 12:41 PM CST up reply actions
We need a new thread. Anyone got a link or anything? Something? Anyone? Someone? Anybody? You? Maybe you?
I’m super busy at work, else I’d scour myself….
I am not your lady... I am not any kind of a lady! ~ Aldonza
Considering the occupational hazards of being a portslut...
I would have thought you scoured yourself daily.
There's Your Zagnut!!!
by DrEmilioLizardo on Dec 21, 2009 7:50 PM CST up reply actions
everyone's favorite player, danny richar signs
a minor league deal with florida
bird law in this country is not ruled by reason
given the same opportunity as Getz got
my thinking is Richar would have probably done better…. not by much… but better nonetheless.
Kenwo4life=ratings
Fer Chrissakes.
Induce your wife, already. You have become a lunatic. ;)
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
eh im glad they made that move.
it was pretty cool to see griffey jr in a sox jersey.. no matter how much he struggled.
Kenwo4life=ratings
Masset + Richar = General Soreness.
LOL.
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
This thread has more longevity than my first marriage.
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
I don't remember when it started.
I think the boys are waiting for the girl to post a new one… as long as she’s up.
"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "

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