Do It Yourself Hall of Fame Voting!
by U-God on Dec 2, 2009 3:47 PM CST
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PrintFirst off, a big thank you to Stacey over at Camden Chat for inadvertently teaching me how to make this. It's winter, meaning the BWAA gets to anger the masses with their HoF votes (Jim Rice is in but Blyleven isn't?). All 26 players eligible for enshrinement this year are listed, and you can vote for up to ten of them. If you think no one is deserving, please submit a ballot with no one selected. Next Wednesday I'll post the results and any player who cracks the 75% threshold will be inducted into the SSS HoF. Here's the ballot, and thanks for participating.
And feel free to say who you voted for in the comments.
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u-god sucks
"you should go back to your cowardly practice of offering no opinion of your own."
-picktoclick
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 2, 2009 4:00 PM CST reply actions
fail
I voted Baines and Raines three times and Ventura four times
See, this is what happens when the Sox bunt.
Discord is sown. Brother fights brother. Misunderstandings abound.
-TAEG
by blackoutsox on Dec 2, 2009 4:03 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Blyleven/Larkin/Martinez/Raines/Alomar
I really wanted to vote for Shane Reynolds though.
Chicago White Sox Examiner — I wish I could cuss right now.
Almost the same ballot
Tack on McGwire and you have my ballot
-Jeeves Life in the Cell
hey u-god
do you have a link to the list of the eligibles??
i'm alex rios' last fan
by onlysoxfaninboston on Dec 2, 2009 4:29 PM CST reply actions
sorry, ignore
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by onlysoxfaninboston on Dec 2, 2009 4:29 PM CST up reply actions
Uhm, Barry Sanders needs to get a haircut
That fade went out of style with Bel Biv DeVoe.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
you've gone too far.
poison is enough. what more could you want from a group? if every music act produced 1 song the quality of poison the world would be a better place.
Cashing checks and having sex.
by MarketMaker on Dec 2, 2009 5:31 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
Yes. HELL yes!
Not picky, but very sticky....
by homesickalien on Dec 2, 2009 5:53 PM CST up reply actions
NEVER trust a big butt and a smile.
These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.
I liked poison.... but I'd much rather listen to
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Dec 2, 2009 6:57 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Fuck, KenWo wins again.
The 2009 White Sox....like a 40 degree day.
by Ozzie Montana on Dec 2, 2009 10:06 PM CST up reply actions
Nice
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 2, 2009 9:38 PM CST up reply actions
Barry Larkin and Roberto Alomar
McGwire can’t go in until Rose is allowed and Parker, Martinez and Dawson can’t get in if Allen isn’t in.
piss up a rope fuckstick ...................by hoodlight
why no blyleven?
" Do you guys know people like you are the reason I wouldn’t come on for exstended periods of time. You rui the baseball blogging expieriance."
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT
blyleven wasn't close to being dominant
and he was never among the elite pitchers in his era. He pitched a long time and racked up a lot of wins because of that but he was no hall of famer.
piss up a rope fuckstick ...................by hoodlight
he was the main person that i was wondering about on your ballot
i wanted to see what your thoughts on him were. thanks.
" Do you guys know people like you are the reason I wouldn’t come on for exstended periods of time. You rui the baseball blogging expieriance."
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT
You Anti-honkballer-ite!
There's Your Zagnut!!!
by DrEmilioLizardo on Dec 2, 2009 6:27 PM CST up reply actions
for those who haven't realized it
voting for the same person multiple times on one ballot only counts as one vote
" Do you guys know people like you are the reason I wouldn’t come on for exstended periods of time. You rui the baseball blogging expieriance."
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT
NOW you tell me
See, this is what happens when the Sox bunt.
Discord is sown. Brother fights brother. Misunderstandings abound.
-TAEG
Bert, Alomar, Martinez, McGwire, Parker, Larkin, Raines, Trammel
I am larger Hall then I expected, but there it is. And I’m fairly on-the-fence for martinez and parker. The rest are solid in my eyes.
Blyleven, Raines, Smith, Trammel
Robby A and Larkin are likely worthy, but I didn’t do a bhoov on this.
"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "
by Chiburb on Dec 2, 2009 5:22 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Alomar, Larkin, Mattingly.
Just to piss everyone off.
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
i would've thought white sox great mike jackson would have been a lock on your ballot.
not a first ballot guy in your estimation?
I used 10 votes....
because I don’t believe in this first ballot… or wait 15 years or the veterans committee….. there were 10 names I feel are Hall of Fame worthy.
1. Roberto Alomar
2. Barry Larkin
3. Mark McGwire
4. Harold Baines
5. Alan Trammell
6. Tim Raines
7. Jack Morris
8. Fred McGriff
9. Lee Smith
10. Andre Dawson
All of these guys were the best at their positions in their era and all should be HOF’ers. I have decided this year that Mcgwire should be in and steroids should not be a factor in judging the players from the 80s-90s. It is what it is…there was a substantial amount of pitchers on the juice too… so the playing field was somewhat balanced anyway.
Kenwo4life=ratings
UGod... this is nice.
I wouldn’t have been able to do this with the spreadsheet and all that…. I was going to write a hall of fame article- but fuck it now. thanks for saving me the time!
Kenwo4life=ratings
yes, there still is
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by onlysoxfaninboston on Dec 2, 2009 7:16 PM CST up reply actions
Call me when there's hope for Tiger and Elin.
So what’s your list?
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
when you wrote that you were gonna make that article in the last post
i figured you’d enjoy this post
" Do you guys know people like you are the reason I wouldn’t come on for exstended periods of time. You rui the baseball blogging expieriance."
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT
yah i was going to profile each player and give my own opinion of them.
it would have been gold…. as usual… but its not necessary now.
Kenwo4life=ratings
I agree with Kenwo,
nice post. The results should be interesting and will be interesting to compare to the actual writers votes. HOF votes usually promote pretty lively discussion, which is good in the offseason.
piss up a rope fuckstick ...................by hoodlight
votes from 5 - 10 were pretty much random
I just made sure not to select Fred McGriff
Lupe, release the balloons!
"I'm the Hall of Fame candidate that gets results."
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that video is why i picked fred mcgriff
waiting for shaun phigguns since 2007
by soxshenanigans on Dec 2, 2009 8:07 PM CST up reply actions
I, too, want to see him inducted
Because I think the Hall would make him pick that hat for his plaque.
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that picture is the most dynamic caption-able image ever.
anytime someone says fred mcgriff on this site, i expect this picture and a good caption.
Cashing checks and having sex.
There's a special place in hall for Zambrano.
"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "
by Chiburb on Dec 2, 2009 6:52 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Does that make Quentin a lock then?
He already is the all time leader in homeruns for people whose last name starts with Q.
Yeah, as janitor.
He can work his abs while bending down to pick up trash cans.
There's Your Zagnut!!!
by DrEmilioLizardo on Dec 3, 2009 1:10 PM CST up reply actions
Another thing i'd like to add.....
is why in the hell do they discriminate against the DH??? Its been a position for going on 40 fucking years for god sake. Its time to accept it and give the accolades to the people who are deserving…… specifically Harold Baines and Edgar Martinez… the Godfathers of the DH.
Kenwo4life=ratings
The Big Hurt will be the first DH elected and rightfully so.
Martinez and Baines were great hitters, just not hall of famers. If the only thing you are going to do is hit, you need better numbers than that.
piss up a rope fuckstick ...................by hoodlight
He is, statistically
But he has no character! Characterless! He once told Ty Cobb he was an asshole, what a bastard. He got into several fights with such kind folk as Barry Bonds and Jeff Kent.
The world needs the Jedi now more than ever
big hurt played more 1b than dh.
but i’m saying that without looking it up, so i could be very wrong
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by soxshenanigans on Dec 2, 2009 8:10 PM CST up reply actions
I did the leg work for you
1311 games at DH
971 games at 1B
-Jeeves Life in the Cell
I think either was more than good enough.
Harold was a great hitter for 20 years. Edgar was solid in his prime-though it was shorter… you can make a strong case for either.
Kenwo4life=ratings
Nice thread
Baines, Raines, Trammell, Martinez, Morris, Blyleven, Dawson, McGwire, Alomar, and Lee Smith. My standards are lower because I run under the assumption that most people won’t vote for X, Y, Z slightly worse player for stupid reasons like why Rickey Henderson can’t be unanimous, and God once said he’d put 10 names on his ballot every year. Morris and Lee Smith just to set precedents lower than 300 wins/3000 K’s for pitchers, because very few starting pitchers get into the hall. Few relievers are going to get elected other than Lee Smith, but I don’t want him to get buried in the legend of Mariano/Hoffman.
Barry Larkin looked at me funny one time when I was watching mlb.com, fuck that douche.
The world needs the Jedi now more than ever
Err, McGriff not McGwire (I think, mebbe screwed that up on the ballot)
The world needs the Jedi now more than ever
no dh's!!
i protest
Ugh that season completely sucked but i have so many other things to look forward to. GO BLACKHAWKS! GO BEARS! 2010 WHITE SOX!
Ok.... I don't get Blyleven over Morris either
Jack Morris was the ACE of 3 world series championship staffs… plus he pitched lights out in those series…. Blyleven had a nice body of work, but he was never considered THE MAN of any era that he pitched in. He was never in the top echelon of pitchers….. I don’t mind if Blyleven gets in- but Morris gets in first.
Kenwo4life=ratings
That's fine.
Bill Maz shoudn’t be in, either. I’m a small Hall guy. How about a beer?
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
could not agree more on Maz.
Maury Wills was a much better ballplayer and he’s not in.
piss up a rope fuckstick ...................by hoodlight
I'm not really a HoF person, but does Morris have anything even close to as good a peak as Blyleven's 1973-'74 seasons?
or, if you want to extend it further, take a look at how good BB was from 1971-1978. I can’t say I know a whole lot about that era but it’d be tough for me to think there were too many pitchers better over that time span.
Blyleven is right on the border line with me
Those were great years for him, and he had a good career…but nothing spectacular. He never finished above 3rd in the Cy Young voting….that doesn’t help HOF induction, in my opinion.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 2, 2009 9:47 PM CST up reply actions
there were many pitchers much better than him during his peak years and that's his problem with getting in.
Gibson, Seaver, Carlton, Hunter, Jenkins, Perry, Palmer, Guidry………these were the dominant pitchers in that era. Blyleven was very good and pretty consistent but he was not in this class.
piss up a rope fuckstick ...................by hoodlight
aren't there others like don sutton in the hall?
if there are, why not BB? i’m indifferent to BB either way.
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by onlysoxfaninboston on Dec 3, 2009 8:41 AM CST up reply actions
Sutton is an excellent comparison.
He benefited from playing on very good Dodger teams and racking up 324 wins. 300 is one of those “magic numbers” that the baseball writers have used forever for a hall of fame career. If BB had 13 more wins, he’d be in by now and I would still be arguing he does not belong.
piss up a rope fuckstick ...................by hoodlight
Since 1900, Bert Blyleven ranks 5th in career strikeouts, 8th in shutouts, and 17th in wins.
There are only eight pitchers who rank in the top 20 in wins, shutouts, and strikeouts. Here is the list:
Wins SO SHO
Bert Blyleven 17th 5th 8th
Steve Carlton 6th 4th 13th
Ferguson Jenkins 19th 11th 17th
Walter Johnson 1st 9th 1st
Gaylord Perry 12th 8th 14th
Nolan Ryan 8th 1st 6th
Tom Seaver 13th 6th 6th
Don Sutton 8th 7th 9th
"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "
who cares about K's & shut outs?
how well he limited the opponent from scoring is a pitcher’s job:
K's count as explained by bhoov below, W & SHO not so much.
That post was in reference to mick’s mention of “13 wins shy” and even then he wouldn’t get his vote.
Blyleven was NOT a middle of the road pitcher (as your link shows). He had a HOF career.
"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "
I understand all of those numbers and their significance on all-time lists.
All of those numbers have as much to do with longevity as they do with dominating performance. The man played 22 seasons and was named to 2 all star games. Only four times in 22 years was he considered for a cy young award and never finished better than 3rd. He struck out 6.7 batters per 9 inning over those 22 years. Very impressive stats and he is likely to get in the hall this year. I just wouldn’t vote for him……….
piss up a rope fuckstick ...................by hoodlight
I'll use whatever I want to determine my vote.
You use whatever you’d like if you decide to vote.
piss up a rope fuckstick ...................by hoodlight
Are you Joe Cowley?
Would explain much.
"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "
by stating that over 22 years, the baseball writers were never impressed with him enough to consider him for the Cy Young?
You know, the award that supposedly goes to the best pitcher each year by the people who decide on his hall of fame status.
piss up a rope fuckstick ...................by hoodlight
I don't think mick is out of line here at all
Obviously, the majority of the writers that have votes agree with him as well.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 3, 2009 10:04 AM CST up reply actions
when i look over who gets votes and who wins these awards
please forgive me for not considering it relevant. stick with the numbers. far more persuasive if you want to say blyleven isn’t qualified.
who do you consider worthy of your vote this year?
piss up a rope fuckstick ...................by hoodlight
honestly, the only person I need to persuade is me.
piss up a rope fuckstick ...................by hoodlight
Not if you are talking to other people.
Write it down on a piece of paper and throw it away if you aren’t trying to persuade anyone else.
by Grinder in Training on Dec 3, 2009 11:05 AM CST up reply actions
I tried it. I just wrote down "go fuck yourself" but it wasn't near as fun as persuading you to do so.
piss up a rope fuckstick ...................by hoodlight
Okay Corky
http://www.gvnews.com/articles/2008/12/10/sports/sports03.txt
The world needs the Jedi now more than ever
From the link I provided:
With respect to winning the Cy Young Award, when did that become a requirement for membership? If it is, then I guess we’d better let Jim Bunning, Juan Marichal, Phil Niekro, Nolan Ryan, and Don Sutton know about these rules.
As far as not placing in the top ten often enough, Blyleven had two more such rankings than Bunning and Marichal combined. He also had three more than Don Drysdale and the same number as Bob Gibson and Jim Hunter. He had one fewer than Niekro and Sutton.
Now let’s take a look to see how many Cy Youngs and top ten finishes Blyleven should have garnered.
More there, season by season.
"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "
Refutation here:
http://baseballanalysts.com/archives/2004/12/bert_blyleven_f_1.php
"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "
Alomar and Larkin
Raines and Blyleven just miss the cut for me. Not big on relievers in the HOF, so Smith won’t get my vote. When Rivera and Hoffman get eligible, they get my vote…but can’t do it with Smith. FMMcGwire that douche’. If Ventura doesn’t get beat down by an aged N Ryan, he may have gotten my vote…not after that though.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
See, Hoffman wouldn't get my vote.
He’s better known for blowing big save opportunities (Game 2 of the ’96 Series, Game 163 in 2007) than finishing them. If a guy makes his living entering games with the bases empty and throwing only one inning, he better come up big when it counts.
Smith’s in the same boat. His playoff record is horrible.
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Good point
Then what about Eckersely?
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 3, 2009 7:34 AM CST up reply actions
Eckersley had a fair amount of starter value
But I thought he was borderline. The voters? Apparently not.
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Larkin, Alomar, Blyleven
I’m a small hall guy. As far as Blylelven goes:
1. Nolan Ryan 5714
2. Randy Johnson 4875
3. Roger Clemens 4672
4. Steve Carlton 4136
5. Bert Blyleven 3701
6. Tom Seaver 3640
7. Don Sutton 3574
8. Gaylord Perry 3534
9. Walter Johnson 3509
10. Greg Maddux 3371
Shutouts:
1. Walter Johnson+ 110 R
2. Pete Alexander+ 90 R
3. Christy Mathewson+ 79 R
4. Cy Young+ 76 R
5. Eddie Plank+ 69 L
6. Warren Spahn+ 63 L
7. Nolan Ryan+ 61 R
8.Tom Seaver+ 61 R
9. Bert Blyleven 60 R
10. Don Sutton+ 58 R
I’ve never understood people who say Blyleven was never dominant. In the one standard pitching stat that is completely dependent on the pitcher he was 5th all time. And he did it in an era where K rates were sig. lower. I’ve often thought that perhaps it’s a curveball bias. If you strike out a bunch of guys with a 97 MPH fastball then you’re “dominant”. If you do it with a curve not so much. And every single pitcher on both those top 10 lists is in the hall.
Where I'm going, you can't follow. What I've got to do, you can't be any part of.
by bhoov on Dec 2, 2009 10:20 PM CST reply actions 6 recs
Agree re Blyleven, but one quick question:
Why no Raines?
"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "
Blyleven was very good, yes, but not a HOF'er
“Strikeouts are facist”
He never won the Cy Young, and in fact only got Cy Young Votes in 4 of his 22 seasons. Finishing no higher than 3rd in the league. So basically, less than 20% of the time during his career he wasn’t even listed in the top 10 pitchers in the league. He never won an ERA title. He won 20-games once in his 22-year career and during the majority of his career that was done with a 4-man rotation.
Sorry, he had longevity and some solid years, but not HOF numbers.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 3, 2009 9:59 AM CST up reply actions
Uh-oh. Flagged for mick10-like arguments.
See above, especially the hatchetm link.
"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "
I am reading the argument that he should be in the HOF
and I am not convinced.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 3, 2009 10:05 AM CST up reply actions
The 23-year-old right-hander may have been the best pitcher in the A.L. in 1973, yet he finished seventh in the Cy Young voting. Heck, Bert might have been the best pitcher in all of baseball that year. He led the A.L. in K/BB (3.85), SHO (9), ERA+ (158), and — for “cybergeeks” like me — neutral wins* (26); was 2nd in ERA (2.52), K (258), WHIP (1.12), and RSAA (53); 3rd in CG (25); 4th in IP (325); and 7th in W (20).
*a projection of the number of wins the pitcher would have been credited with if he was given average run support.
Blyleven’s seventh-place finish was the result of netting — get this — one point. Yes, that’s right. One voter out of 24 saw fit to pencil Bert’s name into the third slot on the ballot. The other 23 writers ignored him completely. Instead, they voted for Jim Palmer #1, Ryan #2, Hunter (and his 3.34 ERA in a pitcher’s ballpark) #3, John Hiller #4, Wood #5, and Jim Colborn #6.
This is a good time to stop and reflect for a moment. Just because Blyleven was treated unfairly back then, should the voters continue to overlook him today when it comes to the Hall of Fame? Convicted felons have served less time than The Dutchman.
OK, maybe that was an anomaly, right? Nope, I wish I could say it was but, unfortunately, that’s not the case. I’m here to report that Bert didn’t receive a single vote for the Cy Young for the next 10 years (1974-1983). Is it possible that he failed to put up numbers worthy of such acclaim? I’ll let you be the judge of that.
Let’s take a peek at how Blyleven fared the following year. I mean, I don’t want to be accused of just cherry picking his best years.
http://baseballanalysts.com/archives/2004/12/bert_blyleven_f_1.php
"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "
I've seen that before, still reads pretty well now.
Nevertheless, Scott Linebrink is a HoFer, Blyleven is not.
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It's wrong to have a long career?
Doesn’t that mean he kept his body in shape and was healthy enough to amass such numbers? Seems like people are always giving passes to players who have great 2-3 peak numbers, but then trail off due to injuries.
The 2009 White Sox....like a 40 degree day.
by Ozzie Montana on Dec 3, 2009 10:16 AM CST up reply actions
It's fantastic to have a long career.
In fact, you must have 10 full seasons in the major leagues to be considered for the hall. It doesn’t mean you were great, it means you stayed healthy and were good enough to keep playing.
piss up a rope fuckstick ...................by hoodlight
I am having a very hard time understanding how you could ever use
things like votes for Cy Young when you routinely see sportwriters jack up the vote. The 1973 example is the perfect illustration of this. All this is further proof that the hall needs to broaden the vote and let a few more enlightened folks add to the mix.
I also don’t understand your argument x y z were better in his era. So what. They were all worthy. To a certain degree the hall is set and I generally dislike folks trying to go backwards. Bert absolutely destroys a few of the pitchers who “are” in.
Last pitching with longevity at a high rate, is a great subjective quality that adds to a applicant’s total, not subtracts.
"Oh well back to work"
so if someone has better stats than someone that is in any HOF
should then be inducted as well?
By all of your standards, Tim Raines should absolutely be inducted.
With both, my vote is on the fence and both don’t get it.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 3, 2009 11:36 AM CST up reply actions
We are not talking about just "one" person these guys are better than
and as I said Bert absolutely destroys a few of them. Sure you can use the slippery slope argument but which is worse? Trying to justify how x number of players are in but I’m better than them and I’m not?
Im sorry I just don’t get the fence argument with him. By almost all metrics he ranks with the greats for induction. No one is saying he is inner circle but this is a blatant ommission.
I’ll get into Raines later, he should be in also but I see clearer cases either way.
"Oh well back to work"
In naming other players from his era, I was just pointing out those pitchers who I felt were more dominating.
I’ve said over and over what a good pitcher he was. I, like the writers who are judging him just feel he was a bit short of hall of fame credentials. While watching him play, I never considered him one of the elite pitchers of that era.
As far as bringing up Cy Young voting, I believe it is absolutely valid. As I said before, the writers voting for that award are the same writers voting for the hall. You can argue that they don’t know what they are voting for but they get to decide.
piss up a rope fuckstick ...................by hoodlight
Small Hall.
Says it all. Sutton should be kicked out. Bert should not be let in.
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
God prefers the large hall, therefore the large hall must exist!
The world needs the Jedi now more than ever
Those making a case for Blyleven
almost have to make a case for Jim Kaat. Almost.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 3, 2009 12:28 PM CST up reply actions
He should be in just because of his pioneering surgery.
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
then give him a lifetime achievement award
or some other cheesy acknowledgement
i'm alex rios' last fan
by onlysoxfaninboston on Dec 3, 2009 12:50 PM CST up reply actions
I got my first "whoosh" to hand out in a long time.
Thanks, Doc. Basel can’t come quickly enough for you. ;)
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
wow, i just looked at this again, yeah, i got whoosed big time
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by onlysoxfaninboston on Dec 3, 2009 12:57 PM CST up reply actions
whoosed is better than goosed
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 3, 2009 1:49 PM CST up reply actions
I know Rik Aalbert Blyleven, I served with Rick Aalbert Blyleven...
And you sir, are no Blyleven.
There's Your Zagnut!!!
by DrEmilioLizardo on Dec 3, 2009 1:19 PM CST up reply actions
Alomar, Raines, Larkin, Blyleven, Mcgwire
and Lee Smith (jheri curl clause).
Blyleven not being in at this point is stupid. And Bhoov where is Raines man?
"Oh well back to work"
Yeah
he’s the one guy who is right on my borderline. He’s better than Jim Rice, but then I don’t think Rice should be in. Raines is the kind of guy that I could change my mind about.
Where I'm going, you can't follow. What I've got to do, you can't be any part of.
there shouldn't be changing your mind about anyone
either you think he is or isnt. Tim Raines career has been over for quite a long while now. Was he a HOF’er or not???? I say he was. Either way- Shit or get off the pot.
the fact that nobody gets 100 percent is ridiculous. the fact that jim rice retired when i was 9… yet went into the hall of fame when i was 29 is ridiculous. i get riled up over this topic.
Kenwo4life=ratings
Hey that's life,
opinions change. At one time (I think when I was 12 or 13) I used to think Jack Morris was a great pitcher simply because he pitched one great game. Then I got older, looked up the other 561 games he pitched in and realized that he had a career ERA only about 5% better than average. Then my opinion of him changed.
Where I'm going, you can't follow. What I've got to do, you can't be any part of.
I presume you mean look at post-season play (small sample size, of course)
Jack Morris
World Series: 2.96 ERA, 1.200 WHIP
BB
World Series: 2.35 ERA, 1.130 WHIP
Jack Morris
ALCS: 4.87 ERA, 1.303 WHIP
BB
AL/NLCS: 2.58 ERA, 1.027 WHIP
Jack Morris
Playoffs total: 3.80 ERA, 1.245 WHIP
BB
Playoffs total: 2.47 ERA, 1.077 WHIP
Unless you were referring to his pitching to the score nonsense
-Jeeves Life in the Cell
no that was what i was talking about...
i also was talking about throwing out the last 2 years of his career which drove up his ERA considerably.
Kenwo4life=ratings
I wish I was old enough to have seen Morris pitch
and actually comprehend his ability. There is such a wide range of opinions about his ability. It’s kind of weird.
-Jeeves Life in the Cell
Raines' OBP should be the reason why, without Rickey Henderson he's the best leadoff hitter in history
The world needs the Jedi now more than ever
2605 hits, 1330 walks
If only he dropped his OBP 50 points and bumped his average 20 he’d be a surefire hall of famer!
http://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/TOB_career.shtml
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Veteran's Committee?
He should be in. And I’m on the fence re: BB and Rock. Between a Rock and a Honkbal, as it were.
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
OT: the guy ahead of me at subway today asked the sandwich artist to put "gardenias" on his sub
what an idiot.
Yawn.
blame teachers
they all suck
brndnprkns: I'm pretty sure the "badass" value of your life is closer to Gigli than The Dark Knight
sure that wasn't WU?
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 3, 2009 7:39 AM CST up reply actions
what the hell is a "sandwich artist"?
"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "
Why the pic of OM?
And, is sandwich artist like a barista of cheap edibles?
"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "
I hope he doesn't mind that I took that from his fb page. That's what Subway terms their employees: "sandwich artists".... Stupid fruity words to make workers feel more important.
Like Starbucks employees = partners.
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by homesickalien on Dec 3, 2009 9:51 AM CST up reply actions
Ah. Never knew that (obviously). But then I don't see many commercials.
"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "
do other fruity words include
oh, you don’t need to unionize because we’re all family and we take care of everyone here
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by onlysoxfaninboston on Dec 3, 2009 11:43 AM CST up reply actions
Oh, you don't need to unionize because turnover is at 400%/year
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oh, you don't need to unionize because i'll just fire your ass
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by onlysoxfaninboston on Dec 3, 2009 11:45 AM CST up reply actions
just taking a page from the US history book
i'm alex rios' last fan
by onlysoxfaninboston on Dec 3, 2009 11:51 AM CST up reply actions
All true artists die before they succeed
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by Carbiner on Dec 3, 2009 11:43 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah... Just like Michelangelo!!!
Oh wait… he lived into his 60’s, and was the most influential artist of 10 centuries…. Point FIAL.
There's Your Zagnut!!!
by DrEmilioLizardo on Dec 3, 2009 1:22 PM CST up reply actions
I think of Thomas Kincaid being the exception.
What a talent.
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
An 'artist' responsible for inducing more vomit than Ipecac
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by DrEmilioLizardo on Dec 3, 2009 3:41 PM CST up reply actions
Worse- The John Tesh and Yanni of watery pastels....
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by DrEmilioLizardo on Dec 3, 2009 3:44 PM CST up reply actions
They make more than real artists.
The 2009 White Sox....like a 40 degree day.
by Ozzie Montana on Dec 3, 2009 1:52 PM CST up reply actions
raines, alomar, larkin, byleven
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by onlysoxfaninboston on Dec 3, 2009 10:38 AM CST reply actions
Please mosey over to the Right Rail when you have a moment.... this bitch needs your help.
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very off-topic
heard from my first vet school today. i have an interview at KSU in january.
" Do you guys know people like you are the reason I wouldn’t come on for exstended periods of time. You rui the baseball blogging expieriance."
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT
Is that a hip-hop station or all-news format?
"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "
smooth jazz
" Do you guys know people like you are the reason I wouldn’t come on for exstended periods of time. You rui the baseball blogging expieriance."
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT
Plan your wardrobe now.
The 2009 White Sox....like a 40 degree day.
by Ozzie Montana on Dec 3, 2009 1:53 PM CST up reply actions
Nice.
Good luck. Don’t tell them about your proclivities for farm animals until you have the acceptance letter in hand.
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
also very off topic
someone just showed me an article that claims the 2012 london olympics logo looks like lisa simpson giving head and i agree.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/artanddesign/artblog/2007/jun/05/howlisasimpsontooktheolym
waiting for shaun phigguns since 2007
Saw that on fb last week.... It really does. Especially when you color it accordingly. What the hell is that logo anyway? It's a piece of shit.
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by homesickalien on Dec 3, 2009 12:26 PM CST up reply actions
*
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by homesickalien on Dec 3, 2009 12:30 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
yowser
I’ve always fantasized about this…thank you London!
(just kidding, sickos)
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 3, 2009 12:31 PM CST up reply actions
it is so much better because your sig is right under it.
waiting for shaun phigguns since 2007
by soxshenanigans on Dec 3, 2009 4:03 PM CST up reply actions
bwahaha! :) Could only be better if I still had my "...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating" sig.
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by homesickalien on Dec 3, 2009 4:04 PM CST up reply actions
I'm as filthy with my imagination as the next person,
but I have to stretch a lot to see what you are seeing. Your Rorschach test results are in: Lock her up.
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
you have to appreciate the fractal porn genre...
There's Your Zagnut!!!
by DrEmilioLizardo on Dec 3, 2009 4:09 PM CST up reply actions
ME? I didn't make this up or see it first!
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by homesickalien on Dec 3, 2009 4:10 PM CST up reply actions
Rorschach's Journal...
Why the hell do I keep a Journal? Doesn’t make sense. Fits character poorly. Kill scriptwriter. Sentences difficult to form, discover reason. Comedian’s funeral was awesome, shame the fat guy who was killed by my grease attack didn’t agree. Justice is great, being a crazy bastard is better. Some day Nixon won’t be in power.
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Kill (comic book) writer
not scriptwriter
-Jeeves Life in the Cell
Kill jeeves. Recommend chainsawing of arms. Possibly exploding him by the power of God.
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Rec'd
Shouldn’t Bart’s shorts be around his ankles? Or did Lisa actually follow through and attempt to “eat my shorts”?
Every good port begins with a slut.
- homesickalien
by Scotty Ballgame on Dec 3, 2009 5:44 PM CST up reply actions
Speaking of the HOF: Does Omar Vizquel belong?
Pros and Cons here:
http://dugoutcentral.com/blog/?p=1570
"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "
Con: Never finished above 16th in MVP voting
Every good port begins with a slut.
- homesickalien
by Scotty Ballgame on Dec 3, 2009 5:46 PM CST up reply actions
Poreda comes in at 10th
in BA’s top 10 for the padres
" Do you guys know people like you are the reason I wouldn’t come on for exstended periods of time. You rui the baseball blogging expieriance."
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT
that makes me feel warm and fuzzy.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 3, 2009 1:52 PM CST up reply actions
At a salary and a position they would have scoffed at in '05 when they shipped him out for nuttin'
of course, the Yankees decided they’d rather have Tony Womack than Polanco that off-season
Twitter: @SouthSideCheat
SouthSideSox on Facebook
What's the point of signing Polanco when they could just bring back Feliz?
The 2009 White Sox....like a 40 degree day.
by Ozzie Montana on Dec 3, 2009 3:10 PM CST up reply actions
Feliz sucks
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 3, 2009 3:13 PM CST up reply actions
Whoosh.
Lots of that going around today.
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
Shame I no longer get to here the Tigers PA say his name in some wierd kiddy voice
For my one Sox/Tigers game per year!
The world needs the Jedi now more than ever
Dear baby jeebus....
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by homesickalien on Dec 4, 2009 12:09 AM CST up reply actions
Thanks, billy. Feels like a weight's been lifted. An interpretation of a dream I had the night of June 18th.
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by homesickalien on Dec 4, 2009 1:35 PM CST up reply actions 5 recs
This must go green,
if only because of the musket.
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
She's mad at all men because of Tiger Woods.
So the piling on is understandable.
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
I thought it was a nice touch. I like him bleeding from multiple places.
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by homesickalien on Dec 4, 2009 2:54 PM CST up reply actions
i don't get it. why such animosity towards e-gus?
These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.
by thatshortkid on Dec 4, 2009 3:09 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
He said I was irrelevant.
HSA has my back. ;)
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
OT: Celebrity men screwing over their wives comes in 3's.
First Tigger. Now, Ronnie Wood arrested for domestic abuse. Josh Homme also. Both today.
Married men suck.
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
you forgot "men"
what is WU really thinking about? Story at 10pm
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 3, 2009 2:40 PM CST up reply actions
Who the fuck is Josh Homme? I thought you said celebrities?
"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "
Front man for a new "supergroup" including Dave Grohl
and John Paul Jones (of Led Zeppelin – perhaps your long-term memory that has been altered by copius THC use can retrieve that data). Keep up, old man.
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
scouring Perez Hilton again, WU?
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 3, 2009 3:14 PM CST up reply actions
You know, I've always said that if Zep ever reformed, I'd like to see Dave Grohl take on Bonham's role.
Interesting that he and JPJ are collaborating…
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by homesickalien on Dec 3, 2009 4:02 PM CST up reply actions
_
"i don’t use those metrics. i watch them play." fjm. and i don't mean fire.
by Toonderstrook on Dec 3, 2009 4:17 PM CST up reply actions
Iss da Toondaface!!!! :D
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by homesickalien on Dec 3, 2009 4:20 PM CST up reply actions
sorry chi, couldn't help :-)
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by onlysoxfaninboston on Dec 3, 2009 3:19 PM CST up reply actions
"You show me the most beautiful woman in the world. And I'll show you a guy who's tired of fucking her."
Someone posted that yesterday in response to one of my friends’ fb status re: Tiger.
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by homesickalien on Dec 3, 2009 3:57 PM CST up reply actions
What happened to Steve Phillips?? How quickly ye forget this face!
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by homesickalien on Dec 3, 2009 3:59 PM CST up reply actions
I just threw up all over my keyboard.
And after your funny post directly above. Way to step on your own di**. Metaphorically speaking.
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
Dont' be jealous that I can step on my own dick!
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by homesickalien on Dec 3, 2009 4:05 PM CST up reply actions
just because you keep it in a drawer in your nightstand doesnt make you better than us...
There's Your Zagnut!!!
by DrEmilioLizardo on Dec 3, 2009 4:07 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
lmao
Ugh that season completely sucked but i have so many other things to look forward to. GO BLACKHAWKS! GO BEARS! 2010 WHITE SOX!
by pierzynskirules on Dec 3, 2009 4:46 PM CST up reply actions
You're right.... my ability to incubate, birth and nurture another human being is what makes me better than you.
;)
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by homesickalien on Dec 3, 2009 4:51 PM CST up reply actions
"Where are you going to gestate a fetus... In a Box??!!"
10 points for name that movie quote!
P.S. The day science can make an gamete from two X zygotes, the XY chromosomes here are doomed….
There's Your Zagnut!!!
by DrEmilioLizardo on Dec 3, 2009 5:09 PM CST up reply actions
el oh el!
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by homesickalien on Dec 4, 2009 9:00 AM CST up reply actions
I don't think that is right about Josh Homme... can't find anything online
Besides his wife is Brody Dalle, who was the lead singer of The Distillers and once married to Rancid frontman Tim Armstrong… she could probably kick his ass.
old jokes home
Q: What’s the difference between a car and a golf ball?
A: Tiger Woods can drive a golf ball 400 yards.
300 yards. And replace "car" with "Escalade".
Fer Chrissakes, hoodie. I know the conversion to American ususally kills you.
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
Tiger Woods is so rich that he owns lots of expensive cars. Now he has a hole in one.
• What’s the difference between a car and a golf ball? Tiger can drive a ball 400 yards.
• Tiger Woods wasn’t seriously injured in the crash, but he’s still below par.
• What were Tiger Woods and his wife doing out at 2.30 in the morning? They went clubbing.
• Tiger Woods crashed into a fire hydrant and a tree. He couldn’t decide between a wood and an iron. Perhaps Tiger should be using a driver?
• This is the first time Tiger’s ever failed to drive 300 yards.
• Apparently, Tiger admitted this crash was the closest shave he’s ever had. So Gillette has dropped his contract.
• After a wayward drive, Tiger Woods found water before nestling behind a tree.
• Apparently, the only person who can beat Tiger Woods with a golf club is his wife.
Read more: http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/posted/archive/2009/12/03/did-you-hear-the-one-about-tiger-jokes-about-the-woods-saga-go-viral.aspx#ixzz0Yf7oYJRe
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"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "
Of course, the last one is best.
Because I am Italian and wear the shirts.
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
Saito to the Braves
" Do you guys know people like you are the reason I wouldn’t come on for exstended periods of time. You rui the baseball blogging expieriance."
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT
Money flowing in the South.
Interesting. Wren taking flight in the offseason. How will KW keep up?
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
Sox 25th in farm system rankings by John Manuel of BA via SI
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/baseball/mlb/12/01/farm.systems/1.html
Decent talent, but system was thinned by graduations, trades.
" Do you guys know people like you are the reason I wouldn’t come on for exstended periods of time. You rui the baseball blogging expieriance."
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT
yeah, just noticed that
" Do you guys know people like you are the reason I wouldn’t come on for exstended periods of time. You rui the baseball blogging expieriance."
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT
If you prep for vet school interviews like you research here
you are fucked and will work forever as a kennel boy in a gay vet’s small animal clinic in Peoria.
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
OT: WTF is it with the superstars fucking up? Need one more now
to complete the Trinity:
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/10468672/Vikes’-star-Peterson-busted-for-driving-109-mph
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
Jarring transition
The stop happened the night before Peterson ran for 85 yards and a touchdown in a 36-10 victory over Chicago. The All-Pro also fumbled twice, with one of them a turnover for the Vikings.
The world needs the Jedi now more than ever
fuck, was he out drinking with Ozzie Jr. and Sweaty Freddy too?
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 3, 2009 10:39 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
oh karl ravech
yesterday as i’m flipping channels i see him and some lady pondering the question “which is the better holiday, matt holliday or new years eve?”. today it was “who’s the hotter young joe? joe mauer or joe jonas?”
mercy.
the suck is not just a river in ireland.
OT
world cup draw on in 3 minutes. i wonder who ireland will be grouped with.
what? oh yeah. cheating fucking bastards.
the suck is not just a river in ireland.
not a bad draw for us. the north koreans, however, are so fucked.
These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.
by thatshortkid on Dec 4, 2009 12:33 PM CST up reply actions
Because they are overrun with the Irish.
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
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