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Alexei Ramirez Community Projection

Alexei Ramirez is next up in our community projection project.

Alexei began the '08 season as the opening day center fielder, an experiment that only lasted two games. He played sporadically (and poorly) in over the season's first 6 weeks, before making Juan Uribe the White Sox version of Wally Pipp with a .304/.331/.502 line the rest of the season.

Can Ramirez post a full season's worth of those numbers? Does Cuban Pride affect your projection? Have we seen his peak performance? Can he increase his walk rate? Is his power maxed out?


Alexei Ramirez' 2008 Stats

G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB K SB CS AVG OBP SLG
2008 136 480 65 139 22 2 21 77 18 61 13 9 .290 .317 .475

As usual, contribute your entry by filling in the form after the jump.

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use my second one cheat

the first one had a slg% way too low for the other figures i punched in.

by e-gus on Feb 11, 2009 11:33 PM CST reply actions  

Do any of you science nerds

know what the eff is going on on LOST?

"KenWO
no point in arguing with people who are blinded from reality..."
by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 29, 2008 6:49 PM

by Illini0509 on Feb 12, 2009 12:07 AM CST reply actions  

nope.

but i did have a thought tonight….. what if daniel, IS jacob?

by BoeJouma on Feb 12, 2009 12:22 AM CST up reply actions  

Light is Kira too.

I don't need to look at fancy stats

to see if a guy is good or not. You might have to.

by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 30, 2008 4:16 PM CST

by omnipotent grab on Feb 12, 2009 6:14 AM CST up reply actions  

I would say that Elenore or Elouise (whatever here name is)may be Jacob...

Since she is the only one that knows how to get back to the island…

So, if I am reading the two options correctly . . .
we can either a) keep dye or b) trade dye . . . is that you Phil Rogers?

by jc2313 on Dec 11, 2008 4:53 PM CST up reply recommended Unrec 1

by Where Triples Go to Die on Feb 12, 2009 2:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Elouise was the blond holding David hostage...

when he went to look at Jughead. That’s why she looked familiar to him; because its his mother.

I’m surprised no one has mentioned that this is NOT the first time we have seen her in LOST. Her first appearance (I believe) is when Desmond buys the engagement ring for Penny (Flashback). It was during the time Desmond was trying to figure out why he could see the future events for Charlie. She saw the man wear red shoes, watches him die, and tells Desmond that if she saved him then, that he would have died tomorrow in the tub. The key of her discussion with Desmond is that she tells him not to get married and the greatest thing he will ever do in his life is push a button (the code).

I don’t think she’s Jacob, but who knows? Without Desmond I wouldn’t have been watching this show since Season 2. Honestly, his character’s storyline is what moves this show forward. If he’s not in it, it just seems to be stuck in neutral.

by slydernelson on Feb 12, 2009 8:20 PM CST up reply actions  

my bad: Its Eloise, not Elouise.

Plus, believe it or not this is the first episode ever that Desmond and Ben speak to each other. Kinda weird.

by slydernelson on Feb 12, 2009 8:28 PM CST up reply actions  

wow

that is quite surprising

"KenWO
no point in arguing with people who are blinded from reality..."
by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 29, 2008 6:49 PM

by Illini0509 on Feb 12, 2009 8:34 PM CST up reply actions  

see i missed the first 2-3 seasons

so I bet i missed a ton… good analysis though.

So, if I am reading the two options correctly . . .
we can either a) keep dye or b) trade dye . . . is that you Phil Rogers?

by jc2313 on Dec 11, 2008 4:53 PM CST up reply recommended Unrec 1

by Where Triples Go to Die on Feb 13, 2009 7:44 AM CST up reply actions  

Yes.

A whole lot of retconning. A literary device that, in the wrong hands, can be quite obnoxious. And boy oh boy is it in the wrong hands.

by CatBrains on Feb 12, 2009 10:38 AM CST up reply actions  

couldnt agree more

like why didnt Russo recognize Jin when she met him a few seasons ago.

They’re just stretching the story thin to cover the duration of the contract now, its pretty weak.

by e-gus on Feb 12, 2009 10:46 AM CST up reply actions  

because at the point in time Russo hadn't met Jin yet...

So, if I am reading the two options correctly . . .
we can either a) keep dye or b) trade dye . . . is that you Phil Rogers?

by jc2313 on Dec 11, 2008 4:53 PM CST up reply recommended Unrec 1

by Where Triples Go to Die on Feb 12, 2009 3:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Well then you open up a completely different can of worms.

This was seen with Faraday knocking on the hatch door in the past and meeting up with Desmond. Desmond then somehow never remembers this exchange the entire time he is dealing with Faraday, but does remember it years after he is off the island (with the weak cover that a “dream” caused him to remember)?

Time travel is a huge can of worms even if you stick with predestination, where even if you go back in time you can’t change anything. In fact, with predestination, if you go back in time you will only reinforce what has already occurred.

Predestination seems to be the route Lost wants to take, but they are hedging their bets a bit too much and taking liberties with the idea. This ends up being inconsistent because predestination is much too rigid of a concept for such liberties to really make any sense.

Aside: If you want to see a really really interesting and scientifically plausible movie on a different concept of time travel (one that involves new timelines each time you go back in time) check out Primer. It was made on a shoestring budget, but it still looks good, though they don’t dumb down the science involved at all, so it may take a few viewings to grasp it. Also, if you have seen it and don’t quite get it all, this timeline map helps explain it quite a bit.

by CatBrains on Feb 12, 2009 4:15 PM CST up reply actions  

I think they did explain why she never recognized him

by showing she essentially goes off the reservation (ie killing her whole team). Then spent 16 years by herself. She always had met him but he looked quite different when he crashed on the island and in the first couple seasons, they never spent any time together where she could recognize him to trigger her memory. Again, we could go in circles in this debate but I do believe she always met him not that they hadn’t met yet.

FifthFeather.com

by El Duque's Raft on Feb 12, 2009 4:31 PM CST up reply actions  

yeah this show is getting kind of hammy

where are they going with this??? it is like they ran out of ideas and now this time travel crap is just another way to eat up my dvr space.

So, if I am reading the two options correctly . . .
we can either a) keep dye or b) trade dye . . . is that you Phil Rogers?

by jc2313 on Dec 11, 2008 4:53 PM CST up reply recommended Unrec 1

by Where Triples Go to Die on Feb 13, 2009 7:47 AM CST up reply actions  

Considering they only negotiated their contract to last 6 years

I doubt they’re running out of ideas as they get close to the end

FifthFeather.com

by El Duque's Raft on Feb 13, 2009 8:28 AM CST up reply actions  

yeah that occurred to me as well

*potential spoiler to those that havent seen*

For whatever reason, i knew dr. sheppard was going to be in that little transport cave

"KenWO
no point in arguing with people who are blinded from reality..."
by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 29, 2008 6:49 PM

by Illini0509 on Feb 12, 2009 12:24 AM CST up reply actions  

sorry meant to respond to bj

"KenWO
no point in arguing with people who are blinded from reality..."
by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 29, 2008 6:49 PM

by Illini0509 on Feb 12, 2009 12:24 AM CST up reply actions  

Why bother? DeLuca calls him the best player in Chicago, "5 tools" specifically!

When scouts talk about the elusive five-tool player, look no further than Ramirez. He has speed, a strong arm and can hit for power and for average. And when it comes to defense, he looks good in center field, second base or — his best position — shortstop.

‘’It feels good knowing I’m going to the position I love,‘’ Ramirez said through interpreter Lou Hernandez, the Sox’ director of public relations. ’’It’s the position that I’m naturally best at. I think the transition is going to be good.’’

Also, Cheat, you left out the “clutch” category:

Ramirez’s glove is only half the story. He has emerged as an offensive threat feared by opponents. He proved himself to be one of the best clutch hitters in Chicago, batting .321 with 27 RBI with two outs and runners in scoring position last season.

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/deluca/1426779,CST-SPT-deluca12.article

"A good cigar is like a beautiful chick with a great body who also knows the American League box scores. "
Klinger

by Chiburb on Feb 12, 2009 8:15 AM CST reply actions  

I'm not sure what to make of Ramirez.

I picked him to do just a bit less than last year, but I could see anything from total collapse to an All-Star type season. He’s probably the hardest player to peg.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on Feb 12, 2009 9:06 AM CST reply actions  

i chose for mild regression

assuming he remains consistent at swinging at anything on the first pitch.

by onlysoxfaninboston on Feb 12, 2009 9:09 AM CST up reply actions  

because he is not known to adjust?

So, if I am reading the two options correctly . . .
we can either a) keep dye or b) trade dye . . . is that you Phil Rogers?

by jc2313 on Dec 11, 2008 4:53 PM CST up reply recommended Unrec 1

by Where Triples Go to Die on Feb 12, 2009 3:47 PM CST up reply actions  

I did the same thing,

except that I had him more patient at the plate (actually doubling his walk total).

by palehose67 on Feb 12, 2009 9:30 AM CST up reply actions  

Your kidding Jer you chose the other way?

You the beacon of optimism? In all seriousness I think he does better than last year. He walks a bit more and still has a good contact rate. .820 OPS

"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."

by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."

by Tdogg on Feb 12, 2009 3:59 PM CST up reply actions  

On a completely different subject...

The one part of the team that I can’t quite figure is the bullpen.

Assuming everyone’s healthy, these guys are locks for the team -

Jenks
Linebrink
Thornton
Dotel

That leaves three slots open. Probably Russell gets one, and either Richard or Marquez (whoever isn’t the fifth starter) gets another. Who gets the third? Poreda? Am I forgetting anyone? Doesn’t seem like there’s much depth at the moment.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on Feb 12, 2009 9:21 AM CST reply actions  

the depth chart comes in handy for such things

http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/team/depth_chart/index.jsp?c_id=cws

"Still, there is considerable evidence that Mr. Williams was truly sick, including the fact that he has since died."

by larry on Feb 12, 2009 9:43 AM CST up reply actions  

Article on Jenks

I guess its nothing you didn’t know already- Jenks was fat and lazy on the Angels. Couldn’t find the article in question on si.com. Interesting read though.

by Off the bus running on Feb 12, 2009 9:41 AM CST reply actions  

Carl is collecting the last three years into a book

also, palehose 9 starts sunday

But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.

by U-God on Feb 12, 2009 9:43 AM CST reply actions  

and just noticed wiz's fanshot

But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.

by U-God on Feb 12, 2009 9:51 AM CST up reply actions  

don't worry. the robbie alomar story was only posted about four times. you look great compared to those people.

"Still, there is considerable evidence that Mr. Williams was truly sick, including the fact that he has since died."

by larry on Feb 12, 2009 9:53 AM CST up reply actions  

interesting

I thought Richard Gere and the gerbil was awkward…but this takes the cake and paints and ugly picture.

Was it a parakeet?

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Feb 12, 2009 10:53 AM CST up reply actions  

they've been doing that for something like the last 3-4 years

Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.

by colintj on Feb 12, 2009 10:42 AM CST up reply actions  

-sun rises, sun falls-

-royals fans picks themselves to finish ahead of White Sox.-

“What is things guaranteed to happen?”

"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."

by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."

by Tdogg on Feb 12, 2009 3:38 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Nationals with too many outfielders

Think the White Sox could make a deal for MIlledge?

by shaftr on Feb 12, 2009 10:59 AM CST reply actions  

so that we could have too many outfielders?

Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.

by colintj on Feb 12, 2009 11:02 AM CST up reply actions  

it's what the cool teams do.

"Still, there is considerable evidence that Mr. Williams was truly sick, including the fact that he has since died."

by larry on Feb 12, 2009 11:15 AM CST up reply actions  

I count two

the rest just play the outfield.

by shaftr on Feb 12, 2009 11:20 AM CST up reply actions  

they don't have too many outfielders per se.

they have too many corner outfielders. which doesn’t get solved when you trade your CF.

"Still, there is considerable evidence that Mr. Williams was truly sick, including the fact that he has since died."

by larry on Feb 12, 2009 11:20 AM CST up reply actions  

dukes could play cf

lets get dukes actually.

ive heard hes a nice guy.

by e-gus on Feb 12, 2009 11:30 AM CST up reply actions  

the accompanying text:

First base
Second base
Third base
Home run
[whistle] yeah
I love you
I do

Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.

by colintj on Feb 12, 2009 3:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Is that Scottie Pippen's phone?

Apologies for the 14-year old reference.

"No one is sure what Colon has left in his 5-foot-11-inch, 250-plus-pound body." - Chicago Tribune 1/15/09

by tailgater on Feb 12, 2009 3:54 PM CST up reply actions  

it does when you don't have a CF in the first place

or you do have one, but he plays left field, and is projected to not play much at all or play at second base.

by Daniel Berlyn on Feb 12, 2009 11:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Sounds great

Let’s have even less pitching going into the season!

by Crede's Crew on Feb 12, 2009 4:39 PM CST up reply actions  

My bad

I’ve been slow all week, or all year, or forever…

by Crede's Crew on Feb 12, 2009 4:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Ageing sluggers not a problem says expert - we should be fine then
The “bean counters” mistake quantity for quality of performance. Yes, on the whole, 27 to 29 year olds usually will have a higher volume of stats because their bodies are younger, with a smaller build-up of injuries over time. These younger players play in more games and have more at-bats or innings pitched per season, on average, as compared to older players.

The actual peak season for baseball players is 34 to 37 years old. Those players who stay relatively healthy up to those ages will perform better than their younger selves. The older player has had years of training and performance, which gives that player a significant advantage over the more inexperienced player or pitcher.

anytime you like sunshine

by hoodlight on Feb 12, 2009 11:48 AM CST reply actions  

This so called expert is your drinking buddy, isn't it?

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Feb 12, 2009 12:01 PM CST up reply actions  

it's from a very reputable source

Dr Eugene R Twatenburg from the Society of Hardball Intellect Training and Education or SHITE for short.

anytime you like sunshine

by hoodlight on Feb 12, 2009 12:04 PM CST up reply actions  

I think it would be safe to assume

that most Shiite Muslims wouldn’t have a vast knowledge of baseball analysis. Though, they could be interesting drinking buddies.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Feb 12, 2009 12:11 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

and you added an 'e' in aging

but who’s counting

But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.

by U-God on Feb 12, 2009 12:16 PM CST up reply actions  

just looked that up

damn you and your loopholes

But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.

by U-God on Feb 12, 2009 12:17 PM CST up reply actions  

I dont think bobby needs your backup...

half the time you don’t even go back and read a post after you make an outlandish rebuttle.

So, if I am reading the two options correctly . . .
we can either a) keep dye or b) trade dye . . . is that you Phil Rogers?

by jc2313 on Dec 11, 2008 4:53 PM CST up reply recommended Unrec 1

by Where Triples Go to Die on Feb 12, 2009 4:03 PM CST up reply actions  

is this never-ending with you?

i don’t believe your high school self was flipping cars in chicago when y2k occurred. honestly, go blow it out your ass

But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.

by U-God on Feb 12, 2009 5:04 PM CST up reply actions  

well, you can believe what you want.I have no reason to lie.

my mommy and daddy didn’t have to hold my hand through life and force me to go out and play… I went and did things on my own. I am just furious with you, because you will discount my opinion and when I rebuttle and give you the facts you run. If you didn’t always run from situations you would be a lot better off on this board and in life.

So, if I am reading the two options correctly . . .
we can either a) keep dye or b) trade dye . . . is that you Phil Rogers?

by jc2313 on Dec 11, 2008 4:53 PM CST up reply recommended Unrec 1

by Where Triples Go to Die on Feb 13, 2009 7:50 AM CST up reply actions  

dante?

But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.

by U-God on Feb 13, 2009 8:06 AM CST up reply actions  

I sense some tension...drop the gloves!

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Feb 13, 2009 9:28 AM CST up reply actions  

I know, I was trying to make a joke

that bombed horrendously.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Feb 12, 2009 12:20 PM CST up reply actions  

That my friend, was nice!

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Feb 12, 2009 12:23 PM CST up reply actions  

and worthy a rec

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Feb 12, 2009 12:25 PM CST up reply actions  

I'll second that!

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Feb 12, 2009 12:56 PM CST up reply actions  

ROFL!!!

BEAT ME TO IT!

So, if I am reading the two options correctly . . .
we can either a) keep dye or b) trade dye . . . is that you Phil Rogers?

by jc2313 on Dec 11, 2008 4:53 PM CST up reply recommended Unrec 1

by Where Triples Go to Die on Feb 12, 2009 4:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Well it has moved off 27

But only like to 29-30.

"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."

by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."

by Tdogg on Feb 12, 2009 3:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Where the fuck are

Yadel Marti and Yasser Gomez? And what are their uniform #’s.

"I am not going out like SSH. "
by WTGTD, 12/3/08

by ballyb on Feb 12, 2009 12:09 PM CST reply actions  

Top Ten Messages Left on Alex Rodriguez's Answering Machine
10. “Hey, it’s Mark McGwire. Want to get together this week and not talk about the past?”
9. “Joe Torre here — thanks for helping book sales”
8. “Could you find a steroid that keeps you from choking in the playoffs?”
7. “Are you worried this will taint all the championships you didn’t win?”
6. “It’s Bernie Madoff. Nice try but I’m still the most hated man in New York”
5. “Michael Phelps here. Got any snacks?”
4. “This is Sammy Sosa. Just pretend you don’t speak English”
3. “Michael Phelps again. Did I call you or did you call me?”
2. “Hey, it’s Rod Blagojevich — I’ll say you’re innocent, if you say I am”
1. “It’s Madonna. You got a phone number for Jeter?”

http://lateshow.cbs.com/latenight/lateshow/top_ten/index/php/20090209.phtml
 
 
 #4 ftw!

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Feb 12, 2009 12:19 PM CST reply actions  

boosh

takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm

by furby2056 on Feb 12, 2009 1:02 PM CST up reply actions  

help is on the way bobby

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLnmy6cNo7Q

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Feb 12, 2009 12:25 PM CST reply actions  

at least I didn't link the 2:01 version

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Fa41HOJ_iI

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Feb 12, 2009 1:00 PM CST up reply actions  

I tried this one year

not a Vermont T-Bear, but some FTD Teddy Bear. I figured all the ladies get flowers, lets get the wife a teddy bear. Bad Idea….and she let me know about it.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Feb 12, 2009 1:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Have you considered plastic sheets and a can of whipped cream?

"No one is sure what Colon has left in his 5-foot-11-inch, 250-plus-pound body." - Chicago Tribune 1/15/09

by tailgater on Feb 12, 2009 1:08 PM CST up reply actions  

No...plastic sheets and oil, yes.

To clarify, I didn’t send that to her work though.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Feb 12, 2009 1:17 PM CST up reply actions  

All i want for valentines day is,

Christopher Michael Michaels back online and posting like the Managing Editor is supposed to.

I am going to ask you one time, and i'm gonna ask you nice. Where the fuck is Ringo bitch.

by ElDiablo on Feb 12, 2009 1:12 PM CST reply actions  

Blades of Glory.....

That guy must be based on his brother. Chaz Michael Michaels…. that’s why i think Christopher Michaels should now only be referred to as Christopher Michael Michaels

I am going to ask you one time, and i'm gonna ask you nice. Where the fuck is Ringo bitch.

by ElDiablo on Feb 12, 2009 9:15 PM CST up reply actions  

OT - Happy 200th Abe!

"No one is sure what Colon has left in his 5-foot-11-inch, 250-plus-pound body." - Chicago Tribune 1/15/09

by tailgater on Feb 12, 2009 1:41 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

I bet Q! does this at least 3-times a game
Although he doesn’t name names, Strawberry relates how team members picked out girls from the stands for quickies. He once watched a pitcher march a frisky fan to a private room for oral sex: “I was jealous. When I saw her heading back to her seat, I gave her a sign. She smiled, turned right back around, and met me in that same little room . . . I had to be quick and run back out on the field.”

Another time, “I was in the clubhouse, having one last quickie with this cute little Florida girl. Charlie Samuels, the equipment manager, came in and caught us. He just stood there shaking his head while I finished up.”

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Feb 12, 2009 2:04 PM CST reply actions  

BA 4 times per game (mostly with women)

That’s gotta be a real treat for the ladies around the 7th-8th inning…good and sweaty!

"No one is sure what Colon has left in his 5-foot-11-inch, 250-plus-pound body." - Chicago Tribune 1/15/09

by tailgater on Feb 12, 2009 2:24 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

"Shaking his head" is a double entendre, of course.

EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine

by Sox Machine on Feb 12, 2009 3:02 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

Absolutely!

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Feb 12, 2009 3:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Heard on Chicago sports radio last night

that (a source revealed that) if you like to bet on NBA games, your best bets are Saturday night home teams, because the players are busy showing off and playing hard (so to speak) for their “girlfriends” in the stands.

Kind of like Goodfellas in reverse…Fridays for the wives and Saturdays for the Goomahs.

"No one is sure what Colon has left in his 5-foot-11-inch, 250-plus-pound body." - Chicago Tribune 1/15/09

by tailgater on Feb 12, 2009 3:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Generally, no.

When it comes to the Sox/Cubs series, I’ll usually have a couple of bets out there with friends that are (sadly) Cubs fans.

I do have a $10 bet placed at Rio in Las Vegas for the Sox to win the World Series. I got 18 to 1 odds.

"No one is sure what Colon has left in his 5-foot-11-inch, 250-plus-pound body." - Chicago Tribune 1/15/09

by tailgater on Feb 12, 2009 3:47 PM CST up reply actions  

another reason to love the nba

"KenWO
no point in arguing with people who are blinded from reality..."
by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 29, 2008 6:49 PM

by Illini0509 on Feb 12, 2009 4:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Haven't watched a game since the Jordan era

It takes a lot of effort just to get past the egos and salaries and be an MLB fan. The NBA isn’t even on my radar.

"No one is sure what Colon has left in his 5-foot-11-inch, 250-plus-pound body." - Chicago Tribune 1/15/09

by tailgater on Feb 12, 2009 4:36 PM CST up reply actions  

kakow!

Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.

by colintj on Feb 12, 2009 3:47 PM CST up reply actions  

So, are we saying

these players really like to keep their head in the game?

"No one is sure what Colon has left in his 5-foot-11-inch, 250-plus-pound body." - Chicago Tribune 1/15/09

by tailgater on Feb 12, 2009 3:49 PM CST up reply actions  

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Feb 12, 2009 8:03 PM CST up reply actions  

thats ka ka kow.

different!

Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.

by colintj on Feb 12, 2009 8:20 PM CST up reply actions  

mr. f!

Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.

by colintj on Feb 13, 2009 1:07 PM CST up reply actions  

*ka ka kaw

Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.

by colintj on Feb 12, 2009 8:20 PM CST up reply actions  

yes

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0901469/

"KenWO
no point in arguing with people who are blinded from reality..."
by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 29, 2008 6:49 PM

by Illini0509 on Feb 12, 2009 8:24 PM CST up reply actions  

i don't see it as a tv show.

Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.

by colintj on Feb 12, 2009 8:25 PM CST up reply actions  

That little shit Cera is refusing to do it

Even though he plays George Michael in every movie.

Vinny Del Negro interviewed for the job today. I mean come on! Nobody else thinks this is nuts?
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 6, 2008 4:21 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs

by Ozzie Montana on Feb 12, 2009 9:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Jeffrey Tambor said he's going to get Cera to do it.

and I agree. AD is a lot more artsy than most of what he’s been in lately, not to mention funnier. I still like the guy and I don’t mind him cashing in, but I just don’t see how that’s a bad proposition for him. It’s the show that made him famous, right?

Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.

by colintj on Feb 12, 2009 10:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Exactly

Plus, I bet Maeby is a real fox by now.

Vinny Del Negro interviewed for the job today. I mean come on! Nobody else thinks this is nuts?
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 6, 2008 4:21 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs

by Ozzie Montana on Feb 12, 2009 10:16 PM CST up reply actions  

kenny williams laughs at early PECOTA projection and refuses to sign bobby abreu; in response, BP reduces win total by 1

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/fantasy/dc/index.php

ABREEEEEEEEEEEEEUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"Still, there is considerable evidence that Mr. Williams was truly sick, including the fact that he has since died."

by larry on Feb 12, 2009 4:35 PM CST reply actions  

shouldn't you be getting your wetsuit on and sharpening your harpoon?

"Still, there is considerable evidence that Mr. Williams was truly sick, including the fact that he has since died."

by larry on Feb 12, 2009 4:46 PM CST up reply actions  

better than cowley's twitter?

i dunno. sky kalkman doesn’t seem the type to make witty jokes about OC.

http://twitter.com/BtB_Sky

"Still, there is considerable evidence that Mr. Williams was truly sick, including the fact that he has since died."

by larry on Feb 12, 2009 4:47 PM CST reply actions  

links

‘BABIP: Progressing and Regressing Groundball Out Rates’ By Baseball Analysis at Tufts
http://baseballanalysts.com/archives/2009/02/babip_progressi.php
Tango’s post http://www.insidethebook.com/ee/index.php/site/comments/babip_and_shifts/

‘The many faces of average’ by Sky Kalkman
http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/the-many-faces-of-average/

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Feb 12, 2009 7:02 PM CST reply actions  

The Prodigal Son Returns (Pending Physical)

http://deadspin.com/5152626/the-prodigal-son-returns-pending-physical

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Feb 12, 2009 7:05 PM CST reply actions  

Mike Tyson To Read Write A Book

http://deadspin.com/5152523/mike-tyson-to-read-write-a-book

great headline!

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Feb 12, 2009 7:08 PM CST up reply actions  

OT

good bulls game (well not good, but close) on tnt

"KenWO
no point in arguing with people who are blinded from reality..."
by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 29, 2008 6:49 PM

by Illini0509 on Feb 12, 2009 8:27 PM CST reply actions  

Vinny Del Negro needs to go away

Mafia-style. What a worthless coach. Who the fuck ever considers using Thabo “I’m bad at basketball but since everyone has a hard-on for tall guards I play” Sefolosha for the inbounds pass when he hasn’t done anything of substance for the whole game? Trade Del Negro for Mike Fratello pleaseeeeee.

Vinny Del Negro interviewed for the job today. I mean come on! Nobody else thinks this is nuts?
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 6, 2008 4:21 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs

by Ozzie Montana on Feb 12, 2009 9:39 PM CST up reply actions  

He absolutely needs to go

and Paxson isn’t far behind him. Del Negro is in so far over his head it is stunning to watch. He looks, acts and they play completely clueless.

by jc2313 on Feb 12, 2009 10:01 PM CST up reply actions  

At least Noah and Tyrus are making Paxson look semi-competent at this point

And Reinsdorf has so much faith in him it really doesn’t matter how poorly he fucks up. Del Negro can’t go anywhere because the loveable JR doesn’t want to be paying 3 coaches at the same time (still owe Skiles several million).

Vinny Del Negro interviewed for the job today. I mean come on! Nobody else thinks this is nuts?
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 6, 2008 4:21 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs

by Ozzie Montana on Feb 12, 2009 10:05 PM CST up reply actions  

i remembered trade rumors a couple offseasons ago where

pax held back on giving up deng, gordon, noce for garnett, or something similar to that. do you think there was more than a grain of truth to those rumors?

by onlysoxfaninboston on Feb 12, 2009 10:27 PM CST up reply actions  

The KG and Pau Gasol trades were very real

Before the 2006 draft Paxson offered Minnesota Chandler, Deng, and the #2 pick for Kevin Garnett, and McHale said no.

The Bulls were pretty close to trading for Gasol in 2007 (I think the offer was Gordon, Thabo, Nocioni, and PJ Brown) but they wanted Deng and Paxson said no. Then a year later, the Bulls were willing to trade more of their assets, but the Grizz just wanted a straight salary dump, so they shipped him to LA for Kwame Brown and a draft pick.

Vinny Del Negro interviewed for the job today. I mean come on! Nobody else thinks this is nuts?
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 6, 2008 4:21 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs

by Ozzie Montana on Feb 13, 2009 5:44 PM CST up reply actions  

He'll always be criticized for not getting either guy

But, really he threw all his chips at McHale and was turned down. It wasn’t his fault. I blame him and Reinsdorf for being so fucking retarded as to pay Ben Wallace 60 million dollars when he was clearly declining as a player. Also, giving Nocioni 35 million dollars when he is also old and shitty when Luol Deng was due for a big extension was a horrendous deal as well.

Vinny Del Negro interviewed for the job today. I mean come on! Nobody else thinks this is nuts?
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 6, 2008 4:21 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs

by Ozzie Montana on Feb 13, 2009 5:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Traded Alridge for TT

and passed on Brandon Roy . . . cannot give him credit for that.

by jc2313 on Feb 12, 2009 11:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Aldridge isn't that good

Brandon Roy had injury concerns, that’s why a bunch of teams passed on him. The Bulls needed frontcourt help, so Tyrus was the way to go (Or Aldridge if they wanted the safe pick). Blame Skiles for being a total dipshit and not developing Thomas. He’s been starting the majority of this season, and lo and behold he’s playing like a very good player. Think it was just magic that he is playing well now and looked like a child the past 2?

Vinny Del Negro interviewed for the job today. I mean come on! Nobody else thinks this is nuts?
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 6, 2008 4:21 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs

by Ozzie Montana on Feb 13, 2009 5:42 PM CST up reply actions  

I wanted Roy . . .

injuries were not a real factor and I wouldn’t say a bunch of teams passed on him, he was drafted 6th overall. I don’t think when you draft 2nd, that you draft based on need and that is what they did, IMO.

And we don’t need to discuss how good Aldridge is . . . he is clearly better than TT at this point and was a better fit at the time. They needed someone that could SCORE from the low post and TT will likely never provide that.

by jc2313 on Feb 14, 2009 8:58 PM CST up reply actions  

Aldridge is a jump shooter for the most part

"KenWO
no point in arguing with people who are blinded from reality..."
by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 29, 2008 6:49 PM

by Illini0509 on Feb 14, 2009 9:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Call him whatever you

like, he scores from the post . . . whether it is via jump shot or fadeaway most of the time is irrelevant.

by jc2313 on Feb 14, 2009 10:31 PM CST up reply actions  

or not
Though he’s 6-foot-11, Aldridge is an excellent shooter for his size and gets a lot of his points off jumpers. Nearly two-thirds of his shots came from outside the immediate basket area, and nearly a third of his tries were long twos

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/players/hollinger?playerId=2983

"KenWO
no point in arguing with people who are blinded from reality..."
by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 29, 2008 6:49 PM

by Illini0509 on Feb 14, 2009 10:48 PM CST up reply actions  

whatever

we’re essentially splitting hairs, he can score in the post…

"KenWO
no point in arguing with people who are blinded from reality..."
by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 29, 2008 6:49 PM

by Illini0509 on Feb 14, 2009 10:53 PM CST up reply actions  

agreed VDN has to go

I can’t imagine what functional human being actively takes rose out of the lineup and inserts thabo at that juncture

"KenWO
no point in arguing with people who are blinded from reality..."
by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 29, 2008 6:49 PM

by Illini0509 on Feb 13, 2009 2:48 AM CST up reply actions  

Selig could make Aaron HR King again?

http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/sports/braves/stories/2009/02/12/hank_aaron_selig.html

So, what, every record that was set or broken from the 90s to 2005 are just set back with proper proof? Dumbass.

Vinny Del Negro interviewed for the job today. I mean come on! Nobody else thinks this is nuts?
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 6, 2008 4:21 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs

by Ozzie Montana on Feb 12, 2009 9:42 PM CST reply actions  

just talk, nothing more

has there been any proper polling on this matter? i would think that the majority of fans would not want to repeal records from this era, or even give it an asterisk.

by onlysoxfaninboston on Feb 12, 2009 9:50 PM CST up reply actions  

aaron took amphetamines. he broke mlb rules, too. what a disgrace.

"Still, there is considerable evidence that Mr. Williams was truly sick, including the fact that he has since died."

by larry on Feb 13, 2009 9:02 AM CST up reply actions  

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