Economy Hits White Sox' Sponsorships
We've often referenced the economy when talking about the upcoming baseball season, but we haven't really had any specifics cite. Today we have two separate articles filled with specifics.
First, the LA Times writes about sponsorships at the Sox new spring training facility, a move which cost the Sox a $5MM buyout to relocate from Tucson.
The Dodgers and Chicago White Sox, who share the facility, were so excited about their new home's potential as a revenue producer that they ignored the proven spring training model of seeking local advertisers and focused their efforts on finding national sponsors.
The concept -- called "The Starting 9" -- was designed to allow nine major sponsors paying $200,000 annually to secure the naming rights for different parts of the facility.
And to make those packages even more attractive, opportunities for fantasy camps or corporate outings were included.
So far, the sales force is 0 for nine in selling them.
Second, we have an interview with White Sox VP and Chief Marketing Officer, Brooks Boyer, concentrating on how the economy may effect the Sox partnerships, payroll and ticket prices.
[Update by The Cheat, 02/14/09 12:00 AM CST]: Oh, and ticket sales for the new spring training facility are "less than we hoped."
MLB.com: When you are talking about being smarter and showing these partners what you have, does that involve including incentives, of sorts?
Boyer: It's not about cutting the price. It really isn't. It's about being smarter and making every single dollar work a little bit harder that they are spending. We have to try to put partners together and create an atmosphere of creativity, rather than, "Here's our standard operating procedure." We have to be a little more creative, like every team has to be.
MLB.com: You mentioned that you've already lost two corporate partners for the season.
Boyer: For this season, we had one partner who said it's our sign or 10 jobs. We have to understand that. Hopefully, that partner will be back when that comes around again.
MLB.com: What's advertising revenue like for the team at this point?
Boyer: I anticipate sponsorships being down anywhere between 10 to 15 percent, as I sit here [at the start of February], with two months to go before we start. But you just never know. Everyone we've talked to, the lowest we've heard, with the exception of one club, is 10 percent down.
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we're fucked.
White Sox Outsider 2009 is the greatest book about the White Sox, published in 2009, and written by a guy who likes hanging around statues. Ever.
Creative marketing.......
My President is black, my lambo blue, and I’ll be damned if he ain’t a Sox fan too?
Vinny Del Negro interviewed for the job today. I mean come on! Nobody else thinks this is nuts?
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 6, 2008 4:21 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
My President is white.
My president is white.
by JoeCoolMan24 on Feb 14, 2009 12:50 AM CST up reply actions
ah, nothing like a little racism to kick off the morning.
White Sox Outsider 2009 is the greatest book about the White Sox, published in 2009, and written by a guy who likes hanging around statues. Ever.
nothing racist about it.
My president is white.
by JoeCoolMan24 on Feb 14, 2009 11:06 AM CST up reply actions
got two people who think it is.
perception is everything.
White Sox Outsider 2009 is the greatest book about the White Sox, published in 2009, and written by a guy who likes hanging around statues. Ever.
is "mulatto" ok? or is that another not allowed word
I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.
by thatshortkid on Feb 14, 2009 11:27 AM CST up reply actions
use whatever words you want. SSS is not a message board for a class on racial identity and joecoolman24 is not a racial arbiter.
this isn’t the place to be making provocative posts and adding incendiary signatures about race. i find his posts on this topic, both here and in the past, and his signature to be offensive.
White Sox Outsider 2009 is the greatest book about the White Sox, published in 2009, and written by a guy who likes hanging around statues. Ever.
i also think it's offensive
that some white suburban kid in high school thinks he’s got enough perspective to deny a man’s ethnicity.
by Craig Grebeck on Feb 14, 2009 2:12 PM CST up reply actions
Moreover, at this point I think he's being provocative just for the sake of being provocative, and that's obnoxious.
This arguement is so stupid
That i think it has become funny.
I find that most people that make statements and signatures like the one above, are looking for a reaction.
If this is the way that JoeCoolMan24 wants to represent himself, then imo so be it.
I am going to ask you one time, and i'm gonna ask you nice. Where the fuck is Ringo bitch.
nice sig
"KenWO
no point in arguing with people who are blinded from reality..."
by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 29, 2008 6:49 PM
Thanks....
I got my reaction…. yes…. i can change it now
I am going to ask you one time, and i'm gonna ask you nice. Where the fuck is Ringo bitch.
that's what i was going for
great movie
"KenWO
no point in arguing with people who are blinded from reality..."
by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 29, 2008 6:49 PM
It reminds me of middle school
One of my friends was a white kid from South Africa, and we were all like, “HE’S AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN HAHAHAHAHAHA.”
We thought we were kinda clever for a couple days, and then we moved onto something else.
EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine
Why would it be funny that he is african american?
My president is white.
by JoeCoolMan24 on Feb 16, 2009 12:37 AM CST up reply actions
Now you are assuming I am white?
I am offended by this.
My president is white.
by JoeCoolMan24 on Feb 14, 2009 2:36 PM CST up reply actions
Well joe cool is reference to a peanuts character.
So yeah i assumed your white…
Reed Rothchild: Okay, now you're talking above my head. I don't know all of this industry jargon, YP, MP. All I know is that I can't get a record contract, we cannot get a record contract unless we take those tapes to the record company. And granted, the tapes themselves are a uh um oh, you own them, all right, but the magic that is on those tapes. That fucking heart and soul that we put onto those tapes, that is ours and you don't own that. Now I need to take that magic and get it over the record company. And they're waiting for us, we were supposed to be there a half hour ago. We look like assholes, man.
DIRK: Let me explain to him in simple arithmetic. One, two three! Because you don't fuckin' get it, Burt! You give us the tapes. We get the record contract. We come back and give you your fuckin' money. Have you heard the tapes? Have you even heard them? We're guaranteed a record deal. Our stuff is that good!
Then you're racist.
My president is white.
by JoeCoolMan24 on Feb 14, 2009 3:00 PM CST up reply actions
I apologize.
I just assume that everyone is white.
BTW big Young Jeezy fan.
Reed Rothchild: Okay, now you're talking above my head. I don't know all of this industry jargon, YP, MP. All I know is that I can't get a record contract, we cannot get a record contract unless we take those tapes to the record company. And granted, the tapes themselves are a uh um oh, you own them, all right, but the magic that is on those tapes. That fucking heart and soul that we put onto those tapes, that is ours and you don't own that. Now I need to take that magic and get it over the record company. And they're waiting for us, we were supposed to be there a half hour ago. We look like assholes, man.
DIRK: Let me explain to him in simple arithmetic. One, two three! Because you don't fuckin' get it, Burt! You give us the tapes. We get the record contract. We come back and give you your fuckin' money. Have you heard the tapes? Have you even heard them? We're guaranteed a record deal. Our stuff is that good!
so again, just being provocative for the sake of being provocative.
by Craig Grebeck on Feb 14, 2009 3:44 PM CST up reply actions
Yep
And you were not being provocative by pretending to be offended by my signature.
My president is white.
by JoeCoolMan24 on Feb 15, 2009 1:07 AM CST up reply actions
yeah, it's pretty improbable for an 18 year old male using the internet in the United States
to be white.
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
lay off man. i know a kid here at school who makes the same argument about barack.
he also penned an article for the paper titled “racism? nah, just some truth” wherein he proclaimed that black people were better athletes because of slavery, and that somehow worked as reparations.
by Craig Grebeck on Feb 14, 2009 3:53 PM CST up reply actions
the Daily's op-ed section has long been
totally uninspiring, but there are minimum standards. ann arbor and its burbs voted, iirc, 75-25 to keep affirmative action in universities when douchebag Ward Connerly shoved Prop 2 down Michigan’s throat.
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
the newspaper here is a pile of garbage, for the most part.
it’s very sad. lots of incendiary editorials for the sake of being incendiary. for a liberal arts school that lauds itself for being so progressive, it really has an absolute shit newspaper.
by Craig Grebeck on Feb 14, 2009 4:00 PM CST up reply actions
organizational culture is instituted by leadership
whoever you got running the editorship obviously sucks and there’s probably been a decent history of crap voting for crap prior to your enrollment.
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
whoa whoa whoa
that is the line for what offends larry?
didn’t see that coming. duly noted.
I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.
by thatshortkid on Feb 15, 2009 4:00 PM CST up reply actions
that's some stupid shit son.
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
Nah, I'm just racist Adam, right? haha.
My president is white.
by JoeCoolMan24 on Feb 14, 2009 1:46 PM CST up reply actions
stupid is the word you're looking for.
cliché would also play.
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
Nope. Racist to a tee. Nothing is more racist than calling a mixed race person by 1 race..
….oh wait..
My president is white.
by JoeCoolMan24 on Feb 15, 2009 1:06 AM CST up reply actions
shut up.
stop trying to revisit that dumb dumb dumb crock of shit that has nothing to do with the White Sox or the generally accepted ways and means of SSS. and shit, you’re convinced it’s clever! there’s no way this kind of factoid nonsense gives your life any meaningful order. just because carlos mencia has a career doesn’t mean you get to be an asshole. this is so straight-up predictable high school bullshit that i’m surprised you’d bring it here. honestly. as one young man to another. this shit is C-L-I-C-H-E. that’s the word you’re looking for. your future self doesn’t have to be embarrassed for you. stop now.
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
by colintj on Feb 15, 2009 10:57 AM CST up reply actions 4 recs
wrecked yo
can we talk spring training now, i’ve got some deep thoughts to share
by onlysoxfaninboston on Feb 15, 2009 11:02 AM CST up reply actions
let's do it
we’ve got some decent and strong major league talent, i feel
"KenWO
no point in arguing with people who are blinded from reality..."
by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 29, 2008 6:49 PM
Maybe Cheat
can just delete this useless fucking thread from the SSS archives . . . from both sides, I find it incredibly pointless. And yes I could just not read it . . . but, I keep forgetting what a piece of shit thread this is and I click on it when I see new messages . . . damn me.
needs to be saved for posterity
all our dumb shit has to stay
But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.
both sides?
there’s the one dude that wants to trifle with bullshit and everyone else who wants him to stfu. this one’s easy.
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
flagged
panties are beyond the maximum allowable number of twists
safety first, people
I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.
by thatshortkid on Feb 15, 2009 4:06 PM CST up reply actions
I can see how you got your high school newspaper writing gig
Vinny Del Negro interviewed for the job today. I mean come on! Nobody else thinks this is nuts?
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 6, 2008 4:21 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Ozzie Montana on Feb 14, 2009 12:27 PM CST up reply actions
Why do you want a white President?
Just asking, because making the statement that “My President is white” gives the inkling that you want your President to be white.
by slydernelson on Feb 15, 2009 12:13 PM CST up reply actions
If I wanted a 100% white president, I would have voted for McCain
But I voted for Obama, even though I’m racist.
My president is white.
by JoeCoolMan24 on Feb 15, 2009 6:26 PM CST up reply actions
don't worry. obama is about to start printing money. should be plenty of it around soon.
White Sox Outsider 2009 is the greatest book about the White Sox, published in 2009, and written by a guy who likes hanging around statues. Ever.
On top of that -
They are now paying for 24 hour shifts of workers 7 days a week to finish the construction. Good thing some of the contracts expire after this season.
Replacing "Chicago Tough" with "Cuban Pride"
I talked to a gal going to ST late next month
she was stoked to get her tickets at $25 a wack, until I told her I went two years ago and paid $5 a ticket.
I think Jim had a good post on this at sox machine.
broken link
that must be the 15th time someone tried to give a link to this “sox machine”
larry has that system down to a science. Especially with the way the economy is….big wigs like larry coming in dressed in their mink coats and 24k gold cigarrete holders with pockets lined with coke make for a large draw during shift changes.
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, I should probably buy my tickets soon.
My president is white.
by JoeCoolMan24 on Feb 14, 2009 12:46 AM CST up reply actions
Once the Depression hits and no other form of organized entertainment exists
baseball will see a surge of attendance, just like in other historically tough times. Corporate sponsors are history. Idiot marketing/salespeople for devising the “national” strategy – sounds like laziness in not wanting to have to call a bunch of small businesses and hoping for the “savior” large business.
My wife has organized a local 5K run that was sponsored by Sea World, among others, who are this year 86’ing their $2500 commitment. Skybox sponsorship, for $1000, anyone?
the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST
The revival of town ball is near!
Replacing "Chicago Tough" with "Cuban Pride"
tell sea world i'm interested in purchasing a whale
White Sox Outsider 2009 is the greatest book about the White Sox, published in 2009, and written by a guy who likes hanging around statues. Ever.
a real one, or some of that orca bullshit?
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
killer whale.
i shall name him/her “killer”.
White Sox Outsider 2009 is the greatest book about the White Sox, published in 2009, and written by a guy who likes hanging around statues. Ever.
more fifth starter candidates
poreda.
http://www.fangraphs.com/fantasy/index.php/chisox-fifth-starter-candidates-aaron-poreda
White Sox Outsider 2009 is the greatest book about the White Sox, published in 2009, and written by a guy who likes hanging around statues. Ever.
It worries me a bit on some of the subtle calls of folks
in rushing Poreda. As I work my way thru Baseball Forecaster the section about young pitchers and AAA experience is pretty interesting. It bears watching with David Price (oops I forgot somebody thinks he compares with Joba this year). Either way I’m saying away from David in my drafts.
"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."
by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."
maybe. but i'm not necessarily sold that it's quite a problem for the very elite prospects with college experience, like price or a verlander or a lincecum.
poreda, on the other hand, is not an elite prospect. i am quite opposed to him being on the opening day roster. and for fantasy purposes, price is obviously a risk/reward proposition.
White Sox Outsider 2009 is the greatest book about the White Sox, published in 2009, and written by a guy who likes hanging around statues. Ever.
The author expresses concern about Poreda's K rate
But Poreda has never been a strikeout pitcher. To go along with great control, he’s maintained an above-average GB rate in his professional career and judging from the number of HRs he gave up at USF, in his collegiate career as well. I think limiting walks and keeping the ball on the ground will be bigger factors to his success than the strikeouts. Lack of Ks may hurt him in the projection system analysis used in this article as well
From some early scouting reports his speed came late.
As he becomes a better pitcher his K rate should catch up. It would be rare for a left hander that throws that hard not to have an above avg k rate.
"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."
by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."
walt hriniak destroyed michael jordan's chance at a major league career?
In truth, Jordan never had a chance in spring training; he simply wasn’t going to be a major-league hitter. But the White Sox handed him a stifling handicap in coach Walt Hriniak.
A hard-nosed player in his day, and a former hockey player, Hriniak had spent years in the Red Sox’ organization. A firm disciple of the weight-back, level-swing method, Hriniak also taught an exaggerated, one-handed follow-through that couldn’t have looked more ridiculous. I remember likening it to a guy trying to examine a hardwood floor and kill a mosquito on the ceiling at the same time. Ted Williams, perhaps the greatest pure hitter the game had ever seen, liked to work with young hitters during the Red Sox’ spring training but found himself overruled by Hriniak, who had management’s backing. Try to imagine that, The Splendid Splinter on the sidelines, wishing he could put a little uppercut in a prospect’s swing, and here’s Walt friggin’ Hriniak ruling the roost.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/threedotblog/detail?blogid=60&entry_id=35602
White Sox Outsider 2009 is the greatest book about the White Sox, published in 2009, and written by a guy who likes hanging around statues. Ever.
didnt hurt swear by this guy?
"KenWO
no point in arguing with people who are blinded from reality..."
by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 29, 2008 6:49 PM
yup
White Sox Outsider 2009 is the greatest book about the White Sox, published in 2009, and written by a guy who likes hanging around statues. Ever.
so he was likely succeeding in spite of hrniak?
what was so appealing, id imagine perhaps comfort level?
"KenWO
no point in arguing with people who are blinded from reality..."
by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 29, 2008 6:49 PM
no, no.
one approach doesn’t have to work for all. the problem people have with hriniak is that he supposedly imposed his methods on everyone.
White Sox Outsider 2009 is the greatest book about the White Sox, published in 2009, and written by a guy who likes hanging around statues. Ever.
well, i don't know enough about how he taught.
but, yeah, for anyone teaching just about anything.
White Sox Outsider 2009 is the greatest book about the White Sox, published in 2009, and written by a guy who likes hanging around statues. Ever.
Early arrivals: Outfielder Carlos Quentin and infielders Josh Fields and Chris Getz were expected to be among position players allowed to participate in the first workout for pitchers and catchers Sunday. Quentin and Getz (wrist injuries) and Fields (knee surgery) are recovering from late-season ailments.
White Sox Outsider 2009 is the greatest book about the White Sox, published in 2009, and written by a guy who likes hanging around statues. Ever.
This is my first post, but I've been reading the various stories and fanpost from this site since Jan 08'.
Anyway Im glad to see some eagerness to get started by a few of the young guys.
larry ain't gonna show mercy just
cuz you’s a lurker, boy.
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
We both know how seriously I take my associate editorship here at SSS
and I know you guys love it when I actually make posts I say I’m going to, so in the spirit of having done that for an entirely different group of people. Plus at least some of you are interested in college football (Big Ten anyway) and UA writes with a guy who has ballin’ footballmetric skills. I wrote this:
At Least Nick Sheridan Has People Skills
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
twat
I don't need to look at fancy stats
to see if a guy is good or not. You might have to.
by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 30, 2008 4:16 PM CST
by omnipotent grab on Feb 14, 2009 7:03 PM CST up reply actions
he can't help it, it's an auto-script
I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.
by thatshortkid on Feb 15, 2009 10:47 AM CST up reply actions
i r bot?
I don't need to look at fancy stats
to see if a guy is good or not. You might have to.
by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 30, 2008 4:16 PM CST
by omnipotent grab on Feb 15, 2009 12:33 PM CST up reply actions
see the larry-hoodie twat-a-tet from around xmas/nye
I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.
by thatshortkid on Feb 15, 2009 4:08 PM CST up reply actions
columbus update
The plan is for Colon to delay pitching to live hitters until mid-March.
With the Sox not playing their fourth game until April 10, that should give Colon ample time to become game-ready.
another bit
Williams has compared Marquez, whom he scouted closely in the Arizona Fall League, to Jon Garland because of his sinker.A Yankees source, however, said opponents made contact too frequently against Marquez and that he was susceptible to big rallies.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/chi-15-white-sox-chicagofeb15,0,1468599.story
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
Ervin Santana avoids arb, signs 4/30
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3907460
"KenWO
no point in arguing with people who are blinded from reality..."
by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 29, 2008 6:49 PM
crede update
The Twins want to sign Joe Crede, who needs a place to play. But Crede and his indefatigable agent, Scott Boras, apparently want a raise from the $5.1 million he earned with the White Sox last season, the second consecutive year in which back problems limited his playing time.
Twins Chief Executive Officer Bill Smith is under budget but sees even $5 million as a huge risk on Crede. There should be a compromise to be made here, especially since general partner Jim Pohlad says he’s a Crede backer.
“We have payroll room, and we’re not done,” said Pohlad, who is assuming control from his late father. “The season hasn’t started yet. Frequently, transactions occur during spring training, so it still could happen.”
San Francisco is the only other team known to have an interest in Crede. The challenge for him and other unsigned free agents is to get in game shape without the benefit of a training camp. The players union rejected the idea of hosting a camp for unsigned players, leaving Crede, Frank Thomas and about 75 others on their own.
but
Giants Out On Crede. Twins?Andrew Baggarly of the San Jose Mercury News has heard that the Giants don’t expect to sign Joe Crede. The club believes he’ll wind up with the Twins instead.
La Velle E. Neal III wrote Friday that the Twins face a substantial gap in contract talks with Crede. He’s still demanding $7MM guaranteed, plus nearly $4MM in incentives. Keep in mind that he’s a Scott Boras client.
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2009/02/giants-out-on-c.html
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
Something tells me...
that Crede is going to burn us at least a couple of times if he signs on with the Twins this season. Or he’ll pull a disc in his back by May and never play again.
by slydernelson on Feb 15, 2009 11:53 AM CST up reply actions
that's basically what the Twins are paying for.
an X% chance you get the real Joe Crede for 150 games. if they hit on their investment, sure enough Joe will do some damage to us.
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.

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