Masset Theory in Practice, 2009 Edition
For those unfamiliar with the Conservation of Masset Theory – or who don’t recall the specifics – the one sentence summary is "No matter how much Masset you use up, there is always more Masset in your system." So, replacement level, back of the bullpen arms are readily available in any organization.
For the 2009 White Sox bullpen, there are four guys who are all but assured spots – Bobby Jenks, Matt Thornton, Scott Linebrink, and Octavio Dotel. Additionally, one of Aaron Poreda or Clayton Richard is likely to fill the second lefty role. DJ Carrasco and Adam Russell probably have the inside track on the last two spots in Ozzie Guillen’s probable seven man bullpen. Most White Sox fans know all of these guys pretty well – and the last three arguably have some Masset in them. But we also all know that we’re going to see some other guys in that bullpen, whether to start the season or replace someone due to injury or ineffectiveness. So let’s go over some of the Masset in the White Sox system that you may see this season.
Lance Broadway: There’s likely some familiarity with him. First round pick in 2005. Has made two winning starts in each of the last two seasons and each against the Royals. Despite this stellar track record as a starter, his future is likely in the bullpen as a mop-up/spot starter sort. In his repeat of AAA last season, he did improve his groundball and walk rates. However, these were counteracted by becoming far easier to hit – most alarmingly in his 1.5 per nine IP home run rate. While his curveball flashes as a plus pitch, this righty’s other offerings – 90 MPH fastball, 85 MPH cutter, and 80 MPH change – simply aren’t good enough to miss enough bats.
Kelvin Jimenez: This is some waiver wire Masset. Originally a Rangers signing out of the Dominican in 2000, this right-hander finally reached the majors as a Cardinal in 2007 and 2008 and posted some ugly numbers – 1.758 WHIP and 6.82 ERA. While he throws hard, this hasn’t translated into strikeouts at the major league level.
Ehren Wasserman: This side-arming righty had a promising major league debut in 2007, posting a 1.174 WHIP and regularly getting righties out. 2008, on the other hand, did not treat him so well. After losing out to the original Masset for a spot in the Opening Day bullpen, he proceeded to cut down AAA hitters in a repeat at that level while posting a tasty 3.2 K/BB rate. However, when called upon at the major league level, things didn’t go so well, posting 14 walks versus 9 strikeouts. It appears that major league hitters have seen the video of his funky delivery and are aware that his slurve isn’t going to be a strike and thus don’t swing at it.
Jon Link: Some traded for Masset – the fruit of the Rob Mackowiak trade. Spent 2008 as Birmingham’s closer and posted a sexy 10.6 per 9 IP strikeout rate to go along with a 57% groundball rate. He’s got a low/mid-90s fastball and his secondary offerings – a plus slider and an average change – make him profile as something more than Masset in 2010 and beyond. However, his 4.3 per 9 walk rate suggests a stint at Charlotte would do this righty some good and a MLB debut in 2009 could be a shaky proposition.
Carlos Torres: A 15th round pick in 2004, this righty was shifted to relief in 2007, had success at both high A and AA, and then was largely shifted back to starting in 2008 at Birmingham before ending the year at Charlotte mostly in relief. It is thus unclear what the long-term plan for Torres is. Has always posted good K rates, though his three pitches – fastball, slider and change – all grade as average.
[Note by The Cheat, 02/18/09 5:25 PM CST]: Don't forget to participate in the Josh Fields Community Projection
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expect improved slugging
Not only did Josh Fields have knee surgery in the fall, but told reporters that he also had LASIK surgery to improve his vision.
http://blogs.suntimes.com/whitesox/2009/02/spring_camp_day_4.html
by larry on Feb 18, 2009 4:47 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Worked for Span, yes?
So whatthehell.
the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST
by winningugly on Feb 18, 2009 5:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
he needs all the help he can get.
i mean he’s swinging through those fastballs for a reason. it might be vision.
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
by colintj on Feb 18, 2009 6:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
flagged
performance enhancer
I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.
by thatshortkid on Feb 18, 2009 7:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I am not against
Josh Fields taking any performance enhancers… or Jerry Owens and BA. I think these 3 should be doing everything scientifically possible to get an edge…. who knows they might turn into something useful.
It's called Sex Panther by Odeon. It's illegal in nine countries... Yep, it's made with bits of real panther, so you know it's good.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by ElDiablo on Feb 18, 2009 8:29 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Like a kid who...
just got his drivers license.
by palehose67 on Feb 18, 2009 4:54 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Honestly,
it was excellent. But then again, the kid with the new drivers license never crashes his very first time out.
by palehose67 on Feb 19, 2009 8:51 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Nice. Good work
"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."
by Shoeless In SC on Feb 19, 2009 11:40 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Indeed.
Of course, if you come to this place for a confidence boost…
by palehose67 on Feb 19, 2009 1:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Russell could surprise
He has the stuff to succeed (mid-90’s heat) but really needs to learn how and when to use his breaking stuff.
He’s talked about dropping down less this year, but it seemed to me that his drop-down fastball was his nastiest pitch…
So I’d say that Russell has the opportunity to conserve Masset as well.
AIM: SouthSideCheat
by The Cheat on Feb 18, 2009 4:54 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
there aren't a lot of RHB who can deal with low nineties from a low slot
but getting lefties out consistently and cutting down walks is probably worth a gamble.
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
by colintj on Feb 18, 2009 5:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
and i just noticed that this is larry-penned.
i dig it.
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
by colintj on Feb 18, 2009 5:15 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
and for the whiners (you know who you are tdogg)
pecota hitters are up.
by larry on Feb 18, 2009 5:20 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Shield your eyes from Owens 25%tile projection
AIM: SouthSideCheat
by The Cheat on Feb 18, 2009 5:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
catchers don't age well
there’s a reason I was really against resigning him…
as it is, I think we can get another year out of him
AIM: SouthSideCheat
by The Cheat on Feb 18, 2009 7:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You forget the Orlando HGH sting last year?
I maintain AJ could be amping. He’s good for 2 more, at least.
the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST
by winningugly on Feb 18, 2009 7:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Wasn't AJ just quoted
Admitting that he was older? Taking Tyler Flowers under his wing like the great Terry Steinbach used to help him…?
I’m happy with one more solid year from AJ and then I hope that he will accept his role as the backup catcher until his contract runs out.
It's called Sex Panther by Odeon. It's illegal in nine countries... Yep, it's made with bits of real panther, so you know it's good.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by ElDiablo on Feb 18, 2009 8:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
WTF is this!?
larry has caved and now has accrss to The Front Page?
Motherfuckin’ Obama. Change we CAN believe in?
the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST
by winningugly on Feb 18, 2009 5:25 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
hehe. accrss. Always good for a laff, WU.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Feb 18, 2009 6:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
congrats lare
good article too
But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.
by U-God on Feb 18, 2009 5:25 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
he doesnt like you
So, if I am reading the two options correctly . . .
we can either a) keep dye or b) trade dye . . . is that you Phil Rogers?
by jc2313 on Dec 11, 2008 4:53 PM CST up reply recommended Unrec 1
by Where Triples Go to Die on Feb 19, 2009 9:27 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
as opposed to no one liking you?
But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.
by U-God on Feb 19, 2009 10:07 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i don't like you either! we're wanted men!
i’ve got the death sentence on 12 systems!
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
by colintj on Feb 19, 2009 10:31 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Thanks - now I'll have the Cantina music stuck in my head all day
by Sox-35th on Feb 19, 2009 11:37 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
sorry about the mess
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
by colintj on Feb 19, 2009 11:49 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
nice!
star wars by verbatim is always entertaining!
So, if I am reading the two options correctly . . .
we can either a) keep dye or b) trade dye . . . is that you Phil Rogers?
by jc2313 on Dec 11, 2008 4:53 PM CST up reply recommended Unrec 1
by Where Triples Go to Die on Feb 20, 2009 2:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, despite WU's protestations, congrats!
One suggestion:
Perhaps a brief backstory on the Nickster? Newcomers/casual fans may not know of how he came to be verb.
Anyway, nicely done.
"I never had sex with that Governor" -
Roland Burris
by Chiburb on Feb 18, 2009 5:30 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Actually this is a good community project
We need to collect all the inside jokes, nicknames and such and put them together in a repository that links back to their origins…
So I don’t have to answer who Liz is anymore. She likes cake!
AIM: SouthSideCheat
by The Cheat on Feb 18, 2009 5:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'll put something up to be published later tonight
I don’t want to crap on larry’s main page by pushing it down so fast
But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.
by U-God on Feb 18, 2009 5:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
actually
i’ll let someone else do it
because i don’t know all of them or where they all came from
But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.
by U-God on Feb 18, 2009 5:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah... Give that one time...
I wouldn’t even take that on myself
AIM: SouthSideCheat
by The Cheat on Feb 18, 2009 5:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
you never answered my question cheat!!
by onlysoxfaninboston on Feb 18, 2009 7:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
that's because I generally ignore you
AIM: SouthSideCheat
by The Cheat on Feb 18, 2009 7:43 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Because you are of color, OSFIB.
I am totally serious.
;)
the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST
by winningugly on Feb 18, 2009 7:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
hey, i noticed lately your language on this forum has been a bit, colorful
who are you, george carlin?
by onlysoxfaninboston on Feb 18, 2009 7:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I am repressed at work
and can truly express myself at home.
All pointy-headed now, eh Doc?
the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST
by winningugly on Feb 18, 2009 7:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
what do you think?
i haven’t taken a day off since.
by onlysoxfaninboston on Feb 18, 2009 7:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
With great power
comes great responsibility, Superman.
the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST
by winningugly on Feb 18, 2009 7:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i know you do
but i want to know who liz is
by onlysoxfaninboston on Feb 18, 2009 7:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, and i know that she's fat
but i have no idea who she is..
by onlysoxfaninboston on Feb 18, 2009 7:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
ahhh, hit the stories section...
by onlysoxfaninboston on Feb 18, 2009 7:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
7 years of college down the drain...
the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST
by winningugly on Feb 18, 2009 7:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
more like 11 years in total
at least my 401k didn’t take much of a hit during this crisis.
by onlysoxfaninboston on Feb 18, 2009 7:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Eat your own cooking much?
the post wasn’t for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST
the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST
by winningugly on Feb 18, 2009 7:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
it's now my job to help people with the functionality of this site.
and i have to deal with the people with which the cheat does not want to deal.
by larry on Feb 18, 2009 7:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i have no problem with that
i’m not sure if used to nice larry anyway
by onlysoxfaninboston on Feb 18, 2009 7:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL.
Oh, Lord. Oh, Lordy Lord Lord.
the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST
by winningugly on Feb 18, 2009 7:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
le enforcer!
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
by colintj on Feb 18, 2009 8:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, it would just be l'enforcer!
No sense in repeating e’s.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Feb 18, 2009 8:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
At least from where I come.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Feb 18, 2009 8:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
so it would.
french is not my forté. deutsch kann ich, aber franzosich nicht so viel.
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
by colintj on Feb 18, 2009 8:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
तुम सब बदसूरत बंदरों हैं
Vinny Del Negro interviewed for the job today. I mean come on! Nobody else thinks this is nuts?
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 6, 2008 4:21 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Ozzie Montana on Feb 18, 2009 11:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Translation: "This is not a library. If you want to read that magazine, you must buy it."
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Feb 19, 2009 8:54 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i can't believe larry hasn't earned a nickname yet
asshole doesn’t count, right?
by onlysoxfaninboston on Feb 18, 2009 8:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That's just his pet name.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Feb 18, 2009 8:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
l'enforcer
works for me.
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
by colintj on Feb 18, 2009 8:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i believe the long form was
T. Asshole Larry, Esq.
I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.
by thatshortkid on Feb 18, 2009 9:36 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd for accuracy.
the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST
by winningugly on Feb 19, 2009 7:27 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
(i'm the good cop)
But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.
by U-God on Feb 18, 2009 10:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
deal away lare, deal away
takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm
by furby2056 on Feb 19, 2009 11:28 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Is this Lou Gramm?
I know you can show meeeeeeeeeee…
the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST
by winningugly on Feb 18, 2009 7:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And you and WU should notice you have a few extra bells and whistles as well
I hooked you guys up with the ability to hide comments and fanpost/fanshots that don’t fit our guidelines, which are practically non-existent. So it’s more like an honorary thing, but I’m sure you’ll nuke a spammer or idiot at some point.
AIM: SouthSideCheat
by The Cheat on Feb 18, 2009 5:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Honorary?!?!
Is that what you call it when you start forcing work on people and giving orders and demanding people become narcs?
heehee
The old man peed himself, he’s so excited. (Poor HSAstepmom).
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Feb 18, 2009 6:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Christ, I don't want to be a part of any site
that would extend privileges to me. I lower the curve. Chi destroys it. Death takes old people for a reason – we deserve it.
Plus, I have no idea what you are talking about. Where is a list of our guidelines? I know MF in the title is verboten, but that’s about it.
the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST
by winningugly on Feb 18, 2009 7:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
we can't swear in titles and aren't supposed to swear in the main article
But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.
by U-God on Feb 18, 2009 7:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure I can adhere to that.
the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST
by winningugly on Feb 18, 2009 7:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
ha! AND he censors you while he's at it! Why not just bend over and make it a little easier for him, slaves!
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Feb 18, 2009 7:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
BTW, I think I know a set of humans Cheat hates worse than the English:
Girls of any age not named Cheat’s Mom. No women with the privileges. None. (colin is halfway there.) And I think all the men are honkeys, too.
the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST
by winningugly on Feb 18, 2009 7:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i will have you know i am of an olive complexion
But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.
by U-God on Feb 18, 2009 7:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So am I.
It don’t count.
the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST
by winningugly on Feb 18, 2009 7:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
previous colonization by moops doesn't pass muster
I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.
by thatshortkid on Feb 18, 2009 7:38 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
you gots to "earn" privileges
wink wink
AIM: SouthSideCheat
by The Cheat on Feb 18, 2009 7:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I resent that implication.
Though I rather like the “Chairman Emeritus” privileges, which come with age and wisdom and longevity, vs. larry’s, which come from groveling and subservicence. I can live with it.
What, no high school girls on bikes bowing to the Cheat mojo yet?
;)
the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST
by winningugly on Feb 18, 2009 7:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
speaking of people on bikes
http://www.changeisbeautiful.net/
still no new ones unfortunately
But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.
by U-God on Feb 18, 2009 7:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
whoooaa!
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Feb 18, 2009 7:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
/rides off the path
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Feb 18, 2009 7:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
yes yes yes yes yes!
i remember that day…..oh and what a day it was….like a beautiful butterfly
takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm
by furby2056 on Feb 19, 2009 11:29 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i hope that's your official title on the blog footer
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
by colintj on Feb 18, 2009 8:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought I already did that.
wtf
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Feb 18, 2009 7:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Get memorable, already.
Plus, at 24, you are a MILF to Cheat.
the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST
by winningugly on Feb 18, 2009 7:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Minus the whole M thing, technically speaking.
Who says I want to be a narc anyway?
….Narc.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Feb 18, 2009 7:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
what's up with the old white man giving lectures about diversity?
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
by colintj on Feb 18, 2009 9:00 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I am just keeping score, not judging.
the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST
by winningugly on Feb 19, 2009 7:28 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
so you prefer counting to spelling
got it.
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
by colintj on Feb 19, 2009 10:32 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i thought the intro was enough.
this is the origin of masset theory.
http://www.southsidesox.com/2008/3/28/363343/final-bullpen-spot-is-a-no#3911284
and masset re-appreciated, with link to original appreciation.
http://www.southsidesox.com/2008/7/21/575790/nick-masset-a-re-appreciat
by larry on Feb 18, 2009 6:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
that was a great thread for nostradamus
But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.
by U-God on Feb 18, 2009 6:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I moved the pic to the top
and added a link to the Josh Fields Projection, which has less participants than the others because we pushed it down so fast (I think)
AIM: SouthSideCheat
by The Cheat on Feb 18, 2009 5:33 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
yeah, it got moved down in a right hurry.
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
by colintj on Feb 18, 2009 5:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
all these new editors wanting to show off
my Prime Minister is a boss eyed wanker
by hoodlight on Feb 18, 2009 5:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
well now that larry is an editor....
I want in. I am the Aaron Rowand of Sox blogging. Fire and Passion all the way
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Feb 18, 2009 5:51 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
not whiny enough
waah i want to write stuff. *sniffle
thats how you do it, right lar?
by e-gus on Feb 18, 2009 5:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
something tells me this one ain't happenin
But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.
by U-God on Feb 18, 2009 5:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You are restricted
because you want it too much. Don’t beg. Allow it to come to you.
the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST
by winningugly on Feb 18, 2009 7:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ha....
Front Page KenWo reports: “Why Paul Konerko is a big shitbag.”
Vinny Del Negro interviewed for the job today. I mean come on! Nobody else thinks this is nuts?
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 6, 2008 4:21 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Ozzie Montana on Feb 18, 2009 11:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i'm stealing that for a recap by May
i can feel it.
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
by colintj on Feb 19, 2009 12:17 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i think you should stick to helping washed up wrestlers find work on the indy circuit kenwo
takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm
by furby2056 on Feb 19, 2009 11:30 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The Cuban Pimp
I like it
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Feb 18, 2009 7:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ozzie is the shit.
He’s almost my favorite Sox of all time. Almost.
the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST
by winningugly on Feb 18, 2009 7:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
you have a clear top 5?
i have a vague mess of 30.
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
by colintj on Feb 18, 2009 8:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Congrats to new editor larry.
Well deserved
It's called Sex Panther by Odeon. It's illegal in nine countries... Yep, it's made with bits of real panther, so you know it's good.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by ElDiablo on Feb 18, 2009 6:37 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I still believe Satan is coming sooner because of this.
the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST
by winningugly on Feb 18, 2009 7:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Swell job, larry. A little elementary for my tastes, but there's plenty of potential here.
I look forward to your long writings.
;)
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Feb 18, 2009 7:02 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
LOL.
Longer than a man. A wee man.
the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST
by winningugly on Feb 18, 2009 7:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Griffey says yes to Mariners
A little more than nine years to the day after he left, Ken Griffey Jr. is back with the Mariners.
The Seattle P-I learned Wednesday afternoon that Griffey, after a brief flirtation with the Atlanta Braves, opted to take the Mariners offer of an incentive-laden one-year contract for 2009.
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/baseball/400612_griffey20.html
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Feb 18, 2009 7:28 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
WOOOT! I was hoping for this announcement. Good man, Griff!! I look forward to seeing him again. Which reminds me, I need one of them $5 Sox shirts...#17 behby!
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Feb 18, 2009 7:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe you CAN go home again...
Fuck off, Wolfe.
the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST
by winningugly on Feb 18, 2009 7:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
thank goodness
seattle’s sports nightmare is finally over.
I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.
by thatshortkid on Feb 18, 2009 7:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
HA!
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Feb 18, 2009 7:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Does this make up for Kurt Cobain's death?
the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST
by winningugly on Feb 18, 2009 7:52 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
About as close as you can get to a resurrection....my good friend was on the ledge when the Braves rumor hit the other day.
Any little thing to cling to for M’s fans, man…
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Feb 18, 2009 8:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
When's Shawn Kemp coming back?
Vinny Del Negro interviewed for the job today. I mean come on! Nobody else thinks this is nuts?
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 6, 2008 4:21 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Ozzie Montana on Feb 18, 2009 11:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
attendance-based incentive?
He has accepted the Mariners’ one-year contract offer that includes a $2 million base salary and up to $4 million in incentives based on at-bats and attendance. His return to Safeco Field is expected to lure an additional 200,000 fans this season.
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090218&content_id=3846072&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Feb 18, 2009 8:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Our own Sandy Koufax?????
“Whether it’s his distinction as the Sox’s No. 1 pick in 2007,…..,…..,….., or his Jewish heritage, Poreda has gained plenty of attention in a short span.”
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/chi-18-white-sox-chicagofeb18,0,6383805.story
"I am not going out like SSH. "
by WTGTD, 12/3/08
by ballyb on Feb 18, 2009 8:11 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
not if we interrupt his development as a starter
by onlysoxfaninboston on Feb 18, 2009 8:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Not familiar with the way Koufax's career started, huh?
EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine
by Sox Machine on Feb 18, 2009 8:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
not familiar with the way koufax's career started, huh.
That would be larry.
EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine
by Sox Machine on Feb 18, 2009 8:31 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
well played.
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
by colintj on Feb 18, 2009 8:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
that went over my head
was i being anti-semetic?
by onlysoxfaninboston on Feb 18, 2009 9:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Koufax was in and out of the rotation for the first six years of his career.
EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine
by Sox Machine on Feb 18, 2009 9:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i looked it up right after you commented..
puzzled over the second comment, but whatever, giving me a reason to not bitch over poreda starting the season in the bullpen is fine with me…
by onlysoxfaninboston on Feb 18, 2009 9:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Larry doesn't capitalize at the start of sentences or proper nouns.
Except for PUNTO.
EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine
by Sox Machine on Feb 18, 2009 10:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
and the like.
the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST
by winningugly on Feb 19, 2009 7:30 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
GIDP
http://www.baseball-reference.com/sotd/archives/1122
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Feb 18, 2009 9:04 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
no paulie on the top
AJ is there though
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Feb 18, 2009 9:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
two others wiz
joe clutch (haha), and el caballo
by onlysoxfaninboston on Feb 18, 2009 9:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
speaking of joe clutch
Twins, Crede Reach Impasse
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2009/02/twins-crede-rea.html
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Feb 18, 2009 9:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Good stuff Larry
I enjoyed reading it.. thanks
by 815Sox on Feb 18, 2009 9:14 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Mike Singletary says he wants the 49ers to be "physical ... with an F."
http://deadspin.com/5155667/mike-singletary-even-spells-crazy
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Feb 18, 2009 10:27 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Unfortunate Ad Placement: Alex Rodriguez Edition
http://deadspin.com/5155615/unfortunate-ad-placement-alex-rodriguez-edition
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Feb 18, 2009 10:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
did you check out that alabama basketball fight below it?
http://deadspin.com/5155612/alabama-high-school-basketball-bedlam?skyline=true&s=x
But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.
by U-God on Feb 18, 2009 10:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Where's my pony?
I didn’t vote for Obama, but once he was elected I was really hoping that having a black man as president would change this type of behavior. Looks like they still respect Snoop Dawg more than Barack!
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Feb 18, 2009 10:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
you lame bastard
Its Snoop Dogg not Snoop Dawg. Crying out loud he spells it out in 3/4 of his songs.
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Feb 19, 2009 2:40 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And he wants to give Mike Vick a shot
Bad idea for so many reasons
by 815Sox on Feb 19, 2009 2:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
OK, Mr New Associate Editor,
How about some investigative journalism?
Where are Yadel Marti and Yasser Gomez? And when will they be in camp?
"I am not going out like SSH. "
by WTGTD, 12/3/08
by ballyb on Feb 19, 2009 6:34 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Send out some peons.
"I am not going out like SSH. "
by WTGTD, 12/3/08
by ballyb on Feb 19, 2009 9:19 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i don't see anything newsworthy.
sounds like a job for an amateur with a hard-on, like dantesox.
by larry on Feb 19, 2009 9:23 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Nothing newsworthy?
Cheat, you might want to reconsider the promotion of your newest Associate Editor. These 2 could rocket us to the top of the division.
He writes one borderline article and he thinks his shit doesn’t stink.
"I am not going out like SSH. "
by WTGTD, 12/3/08
by ballyb on Feb 19, 2009 9:27 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i don't view either of these guys as major league caliber.
and it seems that the major leagues agree with me. i know white sox fans have a thing for cubans right now but so did major league teams in the wake of the hernandez bros. and contreras and so on. and they got burned way more often than not. i’m willing to be convinced otherwise but i haven’t seen anything that does.
by larry on Feb 19, 2009 9:33 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Alexei was the first one that could hit
so far its been all pitchers, though Kendry Morales is showing signs of life.
by e-gus on Feb 19, 2009 9:45 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well they thought the same about Alexi in fairness
I think the team could do worse than grabbing Gomez.
"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."
by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."
by Tdogg on Feb 19, 2009 10:41 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
seems like alexei got $4.4M and was signed by a major league club who didn't even have the highest bid.
by larry on Feb 19, 2009 10:48 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah eventually
iirc he initially had 8-10 teams looking at him with most saying they were not impressed.
"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."
by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."
by Tdogg on Feb 19, 2009 11:39 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
My only point being
what other MLB teams are doing is not proof of anything. Most scouts saw him as utility only.
"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."
by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."
by Tdogg on Feb 19, 2009 11:56 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i don't buy an outfielder who can't/won't steal bases in a running league but supposedly is a good enough CF.
looks like a corner outfielder to me. and that bat don’t play in a corner. i already see a bunch of 4th/5th outfielders on this team. and for a lot cheaper.
by larry on Feb 19, 2009 12:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
also, if you or anyone else wants to do a write-up on this topic,
i’ll certainly entertain front-paging it, assuming it’s of a higher quality than the usual fanpost – i.e., substantive enough and actually has some non-bhoov type research behind. i obviously don’t view the issue as significant – here we’re not the mind-numbing minutiae monitors at beyond the boxscore who will dissect fifth outfielder options all day long – but apparently there’s some interest so if someone who actually has a well-researched opinion in favor of acquiring one or both of these guys, have at it.
by larry on Feb 19, 2009 1:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, we've already figured it out:
hate fifth OF unless they can get the fly honies
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
by colintj on Feb 19, 2009 1:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
or they're actually on the team.
and banging the ladies three at at time.
by larry on Feb 19, 2009 1:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Is Owens any good at fielding? not seen much of him to be honest
are we going to see this type of play from him? Or is that too much to hope for?
(btw for those not familiar with the rules, it’s not an out if his feet touch the ropes)
my Prime Minister is a boss eyed wanker
by hoodlight on Feb 19, 2009 9:09 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I don't know his + - grades
but he has provided positive value from a defensive perspective from fangraphs. He does of course have a popcorn arm.
"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."
by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."
by Tdogg on Feb 19, 2009 9:13 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
What is your avatar? It is blocked on every computer I use... :(
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Feb 19, 2009 10:03 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
its the letter e
i changed the old 83 era sox logo to spell sex for a spectacularly bad softball team last fall and thats the jpeg i used to have the jerseys made, its just zoomed in on the e with the blue background and red stripes top and bottom.
by e-gus on Feb 19, 2009 10:06 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
ditto
"I never had sex with that Governor" -
Roland Burris
by Chiburb on Feb 19, 2009 10:06 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i dont know why
ill have to change it i guess
by e-gus on Feb 19, 2009 10:08 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
its probably because the white was translucent
thats likely why its not rendering for you guys.
by e-gus on Feb 19, 2009 10:18 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
yuh doesn't has to change it...
if yuh doesn’t wanna.
"I never had sex with that Governor" -
Roland Burris
by Chiburb on Feb 19, 2009 10:46 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
it worked for me, fwiw
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
by colintj on Feb 19, 2009 10:53 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I see it here, on this comment, and now finally on the front page for your Fantasy fanpost....
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Feb 19, 2009 10:56 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
oh wait, that's not what you described at all. but I do see something!
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Feb 19, 2009 10:57 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
This addition to the thread is quite compelling.
e-gus’ avatar has taken on a life of its own!
the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST
by winningugly on Feb 19, 2009 11:10 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
c'mon now,
i started it.
So, if I am reading the two options correctly . . .
we can either a) keep dye or b) trade dye . . . is that you Phil Rogers?
by jc2313 on Dec 11, 2008 4:53 PM CST up reply recommended Unrec 1
by Where Triples Go to Die on Feb 19, 2009 11:24 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
who cares?
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Feb 19, 2009 11:29 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
[X] I DO
plus, I don’t associate with anti-americans. go move to cuba if you dont like it here.
So, if I am reading the two options correctly . . .
we can either a) keep dye or b) trade dye . . . is that you Phil Rogers?
by jc2313 on Dec 11, 2008 4:53 PM CST up reply recommended Unrec 1
by Where Triples Go to Die on Feb 19, 2009 1:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
wow.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Feb 19, 2009 2:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
makes sense that he was the one that killed logic
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Feb 19, 2009 3:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
someone killed logic?
why was I not informed of this? No more predictions from me! I can’t make predictions if logic is dead!
So, if I am reading the two options correctly . . .
we can either a) keep dye or b) trade dye . . . is that you Phil Rogers?
by jc2313 on Dec 11, 2008 4:53 PM CST up reply recommended Unrec 1
by Where Triples Go to Die on Feb 19, 2009 3:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
if you don' like it, you can jus git out

I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.
by thatshortkid on Feb 19, 2009 4:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
by colintj on Feb 19, 2009 5:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Twitter: @SouthSideCheat
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by The Cheat on Feb 19, 2009 7:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm going, I'm going!
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Feb 19, 2009 6:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Nice new one.
the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST
by winningugly on Feb 19, 2009 10:32 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
To e-gus.
the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST
by winningugly on Feb 19, 2009 10:32 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

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