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First Full Squad Workout

Gordon Beckham discusses the mechanical change in his swing he made in the final days of the Arizona Fall League, where he hit .394/.468/.652 overall.

Specifically, Beckham switched to a more compact swing after coiling his bat.

"It felt very good," said Beckham, who batted .533 with three home runs in his final seven games. "(My stance) was more compact and there wasn't much movement in my head."

Gonzales' observations about the workout:

During infield drills, manager Ozzie Guillen quickly noticed that versatile Wilson Betemit was working out at third base and quickly moved him to shortstop. The Sox will need a trustworthy backup shortstop in the event that Brent Lillibridge wins the starting second base job, and Betemit has experience at shortstop.

As for third base, 19-year-old Cuban Dayan Viciedo didn't get a chance to display his reportedly powerful throwing arm. But he appeared comfortable during fielding drills.

As for his frame, Viciedo seemed to move well for someone listed at 5-foot-11 and 240 pounds.

It was tough to judge Viciedo after one day of batting practice, other than he has legitimate power to all fields.

 And Fields on his offseason defensive work.

"We would get out there, and Joey would hit as many possible ground balls as he could in the shortest amount of time that he could," said Fields with a smile of his private offseason workouts with Cora. "We would start out at 9 or 10 o'clock and end up at 12 or 1.

"Basically, I took ground ball after ground ball after ground ball. Sometimes, it seemed like he was holding a machine gun and not necessarily a Fungo when he was hitting because it was ball, ball, ball, one right after another.

...

Cora believes a different Fields will be on display this year, and not solely because of their extra offseason work. It's simply about Fields being healthy again and far more flexible.

"You can tell right away the difference with the way he's moving because he's healthy," Cora said. "I want to say he was battling that injury since almost when he got here [with the White Sox]. You are going to see the athletic Fields we were hearing about because he's healthy."

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"there wasn't much movement in my head."

Walk will fix that.

I don't need to look at fancy stats

to see if a guy is good or not. You might have to.

by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 30, 2008 4:16 PM CST

by omnipotent grab on Feb 19, 2009 7:21 PM CST reply actions  

The Big Crush

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Feb 19, 2009 7:57 PM CST reply actions  

El Caballito

Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.

by colintj on Feb 19, 2009 7:57 PM CST up reply actions  

or whatever the diminutive in spanish is.

Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.

by colintj on Feb 19, 2009 7:57 PM CST up reply actions  

El Caballito es Q!

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Feb 19, 2009 8:00 PM CST up reply actions  

If he's 5'11"

he ain’t 240. 225, maybe. If he’s 6’1" he’s 235-240.

the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST

by winningugly on Feb 19, 2009 8:02 PM CST up reply actions  

WU...?

Your that guy from the carnival that guesses people’s weight..?
and from a picture no less…. your impressive…

It's called Sex Panther by Odeon. It's illegal in nine countries... Yep, it's made with bits of real panther, so you know it's good.

They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.

by ElDiablo on Feb 19, 2009 8:14 PM CST up reply actions  

No. That's MM:

The ladies sit on his face and he tries to guess their weight.

"I never had sex with that Governor" -
Roland Burris

by Chiburb on Feb 20, 2009 7:34 AM CST up reply actions  

I love my carny heritage.

the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST

by winningugly on Feb 20, 2009 9:33 AM CST up reply actions  

He doesn't look 240.

More like a beefy 210-220.

He doesn’t look that fat to me.

Maybe he should listen to the Count and lay off the steak too.

"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on Feb 19, 2009 9:19 PM CST up reply actions  

I admit

He doesn’t look 240…. but i really have no expertise judging people’s weight from a picture… I just enjoy giving people shit.

He looks like he has massive shoulders though….

Will he be the 2010 DH…? Who is the youngest person to consistently start at DH..? B Allen seems to have 1st base locked down for the future

It's called Sex Panther by Odeon. It's illegal in nine countries... Yep, it's made with bits of real panther, so you know it's good.

They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.

by ElDiablo on Feb 19, 2009 9:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Really, though...

DH – You just put someone that is overweight (can’t field) that can hit, and may have injury issues playing full time in the field.

Billy Butler can’t hack it in the outfield for the Royals, and was just okay at 1B. So they have him DHing at the tender age of what, 21?

Honestly, with Viciedo, I think it’s too early to tell. The kid probably still has baby fat. He could maybe go just about anywhere from here… 3B, a corner outfield, 1B, DH… who knows? With Konerko and Thome on the books for another year, and Fields still on the roster… maybe he goes to a corner OF when Dye leaves?

Just thinking out loud I guess.

But no, he doesn’t look that fat.

"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on Feb 19, 2009 9:47 PM CST up reply actions  

He ain't no Prince Fielder...

Replacing "Chicago Tough" with "Cuban Pride"

by Brush Back on Feb 19, 2009 9:50 PM CST up reply actions  

This is the last year of Thome's contract.

At least two spots are open for him in 2010 (LF assuming Q moves to RF) and 1B / DH ( depending where you keep Konerko).

by Grinder in Training on Feb 19, 2009 9:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Word.

I tend to live on a season by season basis.

"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on Feb 20, 2009 3:37 AM CST up reply actions  

i'm going to go ahead and disagree with you here

240lbs looks about right and this is by far the best pic to be able to give expert advice on

by i_like_turtles on Feb 20, 2009 2:09 AM CST up reply actions  

i can't accept the idea that Carlos Lee in anyway, no matter how accurate factually speaking,

could be larger or greater than Q!

Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.

by colintj on Feb 19, 2009 8:13 PM CST up reply actions  

I thought 'es' = 'is'

and I was talking about the nickname only

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Feb 19, 2009 8:30 PM CST up reply actions  

and i'm saying he has shed it

and transcended, having become Q!

Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.

by colintj on Feb 19, 2009 9:05 PM CST up reply actions  

His batting stance is slightly open and he doesn’t coil the bat like his Cuban idol Omar Linares.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/chi-20-white-sox-chicagofeb20,0,3046056.story

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Feb 19, 2009 9:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Looks like

how I was taught.

"I am not going out like SSH. "
by WTGTD, 12/3/08

by ballyb on Feb 19, 2009 9:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Special Time together...

I wonder what happened between Cora and Fields after hours….

It's called Sex Panther by Odeon. It's illegal in nine countries... Yep, it's made with bits of real panther, so you know it's good.

They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.

by ElDiablo on Feb 19, 2009 8:33 PM CST reply actions  

This time last year...

I was gleefully thinking to myself what round I was going to take Fields in my fantasy leagues. Bill James had him having a monstrous year.

Yeah. About that…

I just hope he can stay in the Bigs this year, stay healthy, and provide league average defense and league average offense.

"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on Feb 19, 2009 9:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Hoping for league average...

and he is in the physical prime of his life… If he can’t succeed in the next 2 years, he’s never going to.

Spring training white sox video on comcast right now.

It's called Sex Panther by Odeon. It's illegal in nine countries... Yep, it's made with bits of real panther, so you know it's good.

They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.

by ElDiablo on Feb 19, 2009 9:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Beckham
Extra innings: Gordon Beckham, the Sox’s No. 1 pick in the 2008 draft, said he was told he will play second as well as shortstop, his natural position, and maybe even third base.

Trib

by DirtySox on Feb 19, 2009 8:45 PM CST reply actions  

All at the same time?

This kid is something special

"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on Feb 19, 2009 9:19 PM CST up reply actions  

It's the Cuban Pride

it’s spreading!

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Feb 19, 2009 9:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Fields needs to get Barwisized.

Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.

by colintj on Feb 19, 2009 9:06 PM CST reply actions  

Thanks, Larry.

"I am not going out like SSH. "
by WTGTD, 12/3/08

by ballyb on Feb 19, 2009 9:26 PM CST reply actions  

BP book tour

Date: 3/18/09

Christina Kahrl, Kevin Goldstein

Time: 5:30 PM

B&N @ DePaul Center

1 East Jackson Boulevard

Chicago, IL 60604

and others across the country

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/unfiltered/?p=1181

by larry on Feb 19, 2009 10:06 PM CST reply actions  

No kidding.

Carnies are part of a noble tradition. Carnies built this country — the carnival part of it anyway — and though
they may be rat-like in appearance, they are truly kings among men.

EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine

by Sox Machine on Feb 19, 2009 10:45 PM CST up reply actions  

four minutes is impressive reaction time on that lay up.

especially when one takes into account time and park considerations.

by larry on Feb 19, 2009 10:49 PM CST up reply actions  

I hadn't even seen the "carny" ref

before I commented above. larry and I are in the same thought plane. I must enter therapy soon.

the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST

by winningugly on Feb 20, 2009 9:37 AM CST up reply actions  

the head man didn't like the 2008 team
“We got to the playoffs, so it was a nice year, but it wasn’t a fun team to watch,” White Sox chairman Jerry Reinsdorf told MLB.com of his 2008 team on Thursday, shortly after Guillen addressed his 2009 squad for the first time.

“Last year’s team was a tough team to watch because it was so dependent on the home run,” Reinsdorf said. “It was frustrating. I think this year’s team is going to be much more versatile and fun to watch.”


“I like watching a team that can manufacture runs,” Reinsdorf said. “The fact is, you can’t hit every day, but you can play defense and manufacture runs. If you have guys who can run, they also are normally good defensive players. We were not a particularly good defensive team in 2008. We had good pitching.”

http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090219&content_id=3853584&vkey=news_cws&fext=.jsp&c_id=cws

by larry on Feb 19, 2009 11:06 PM CST reply actions  

Hah!

Zingaroo!

"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on Feb 20, 2009 3:38 AM CST up reply actions  

JRE = JR!

the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST

by winningugly on Feb 20, 2009 9:37 AM CST up reply actions  

the long ball is so 1990s.

step into the 21st century, loser.

by larry on Feb 20, 2009 10:01 AM CST up reply actions  

Get on the austerity bus, folks.

No drugs (well, fewer), less money (salaries and sponsorships). Welcome to the “dead-ball” era. Grindy is in.

the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST

by winningugly on Feb 20, 2009 10:05 AM CST up reply actions  

beckham

“he’ll hit, a lot”

-someone I know in the white sox organization.

by shaftr on Feb 19, 2009 11:55 PM CST reply actions  

popcorn vendor?

"KenWO
no point in arguing with people who are blinded from reality..."
by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 29, 2008 6:49 PM

by Illini0509 on Feb 20, 2009 12:31 AM CST up reply actions  

Nancy Faust?

White Sox: Trying to roll a hard six.

by vince_ on Feb 20, 2009 8:52 AM CST up reply actions  

Domestic abuse counselor?

the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST

by winningugly on Feb 20, 2009 12:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Fanpost

I’m thinking about starting a fanpost when the season kicks off detailing the bets I will make on MLB. Would anyone be interested in reading this?
Last season I lost 2% on my MLB bets and would at least like to try and break even this year.
I bet singles mainly, a few totals and some in play stuff now and again. The amounts I bet aren’t massive but I’d like to take it a bit more seriously this year, anyway let me know if you’d like to see this or not.

my Prime Minister is a boss eyed wanker

by hoodlight on Feb 20, 2009 2:33 AM CST reply actions  

[x] Y [ ] N

I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.

by thatshortkid on Feb 20, 2009 3:00 AM CST up reply actions  

Lots of money flowing out of the stock market.

Has to be put to work somewhere.

"I am not going out like SSH. "
by WTGTD, 12/3/08

by ballyb on Feb 20, 2009 6:49 AM CST up reply actions  

go for it

But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.

by U-God on Feb 20, 2009 8:04 AM CST up reply actions  

Bring it . . .

I enjoy the win totals bets.

by jc2313 on Feb 20, 2009 2:54 PM CST up reply actions  

definitely.

Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.

by colintj on Feb 20, 2009 3:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Do the English books - Ladbrokes, Wm. Hill - take baseball action?

Tradesports had all manner of quasi-bets, but alas, it’s no more.

by Sox-35th on Feb 20, 2009 8:23 AM CST reply actions  

That was a reply to Hoodlight

Sorry – still getting used to this…

by Sox-35th on Feb 20, 2009 8:24 AM CST up reply actions  

yes all of them do

but that won’t really be how I’ll be playing this, with standard bookies that is. I’ll explain in depth when I make the post nearer the time.

my Prime Minister is a boss eyed wanker

by hoodlight on Feb 20, 2009 8:35 AM CST up reply actions  

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