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Do White Sox Have Surprising Starter Depth?

A little over a month ago, things looked grim for the White Sox starting staff. Sure, they had a solid, young nucleus anchored by Mark Buehrle, John Danks and Gavin Floyd, but who was going to fill the other two rotation spots?

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Javier Vazquez had been traded to Atlanta for a package of prospects who don't figure to contribute in '09. Jose Contreras had ruptured his Achilles tendon late in '08, and given his age didn't seem like a good bet to pitch anytime before the All-Star break.

All references to the Sox rotation included words like "competition" followed by uninspiring names like Jeff Marquez and Lance Broadway. The Sox projected rotation, even with the solid front three, appeared to be that of a 4th or 5th place club.

Yet as we sit here 4 games into spring training, I'm surprisingly optimistic about the Sox rotation picture.

What's changed?

  • Sox sign Bartolo Colon -- Even though we all know he's going to get hurt at some point, even though he had his elbow "cleaned up" in the off-season, even though he has yet to throw live BP to hitters this spring, I have faith that Colon will contribute positively to the Sox rotation... for a limited time.
  • Contreras is a miraculous healer -- Nobody expected Contreras to contribute before the All-Star break, nobody but Contreras, that is. He "ate lots of fish" in the off-season and obviously trained hard, doing what he could, to drop a reported 30 pounds from last year, and now is tentatively scheduled for live action mid-March. There's a possibility he could open the season in the rotation.
  • It's Spring -- It's hard not to be optimistic at the beginning of spring. Anything's possible.

The addition of the two old guys coming off injuries suddenly gives the Sox some starting depth. Granted, they're adding a couple more question marks to a pile of candidates that already sound like a round of Jeopardy. Who is Jeff Marquez? But now it seems they'll only have to count on the young, unproven guys to provide 20-45 starts instead of the 60+ that would be required from filling the final two spots of the rotation.

Who's got the best shot?

Star-divide

  • Aaron Poreda -- The White Sox top pick of the '07 draft opened his spring by serving up a homer and a single to a pair of major leaguers, but retired the next 6 batters he faced in a "B" game. He has plus command of a plus sinking fastball that sits in the low 90's, but the rest of his pitches lag behind. He can probably succeed from the bullpen as a 1-pitch pitcher, but needs to refine his secondary offerings to claim a rotation spot.

    Coming North: 55% chance (as a starter: 25%)

  • Clayton Richard -- Richard helped his chances a great deal late last season by putting up a solid start in Yankee stadium, and cleaning up Vazquez' final two messes. He's a lot like Poreda in that he throws from a lower 3/4 slot and relies on good sink from his fastball, which doesn't quite have the zip of Poreda's (sitting just below 90). Richard seems to have a knack for adding and subtracting off his fastball with good results, but also lacks consistency with his slider and change. He seemed to take a step forward with his slider against lefties down the stretch, making him the clubhouse favorite for LOOGY duties.

    Coming North: 95% chance (as a starter: 35%)

  • Jeff Marquez -- Derisively called [Starter Candidate 5] during our depression regarding the Sox starter prospects, Marquez doesn't have the recent minor league track record to support his name being mentioned here. His name is here, however, based on a reported 94 MPH fastball with good sink. I'll allow that Marquez' strikeout rate was hurt last season by nagging injuries, that the Sox scouts see something that I don't, but until he starts to show some ability to miss minor league bats, he shouldn't be among the lead candidates for a rotation spot.

    Coming North: 40% chance (as a starter: 15%)

  • Jack Egbert -- Slowed by elbow soreness last spring, Egbert seemingly missed out on his chance to break into a big league rotation. He shook off a slow start in AAA to post his usual excellent K/BB/IP numbers over the final three months, but saw a spike in his HR rate in Charlotte's small park. Egbert will not wow you with his stuff. He's fringe-average with everything but a plus changeup. But he's got a funky hitch in his delivery (think: Chris Young, the pitcher) and has never really had a problem missing bats or keeping the ball on the ground. In many ways he's the opposite of Marquez, a guy without the stuff to wow scouts, but a minor league record that screams Give Me A Shot, You Might Like The Results.

    Coming North: 15% chance (as a starter: 5%)

  • Lance Broadway -- The Sox 2005 first rounder is a bit like Egbert in that he has underwhelming stuff and good "pitchability." Though unlike Egbert, Broadway hasn't been able to translate that into the type of minor league success that precedes a solid major league career. Sox fans have been treated to two successful major league starts from Broadway, but those seem like flukes given the ridiculously high hit-rate he's allowed in the high-minors.

    Coming North: 7.5% chance (as a starter: 2.5%)

  • John Van Benschoten -- The Pirates' failed top pick (8th overall) in the 2001 draft has a career ERA of 9.20 over 19 starts. Only the Pirates could manage to give that many starts to a guy who proved to be so totally unprepared for the major leages. Van Benschoten's minor league record isn't terrible, which is probably why the Sox bothered to pick him up this winter. I suppose there is a chance, albeit a slim one, that Don Cooper can work a little magic and make him over into an effective pitcher.

    Coming North: 2.5% chance (as a starter: 1%)

I may have talked myself back down to a more pessimistic (read: reasonable) position in writing those capsules, but I still feel pretty good about one of the unproven starter candidates being able to step up his game. The bigger questions for me are, Who will it be? And will more than one of them be needed?

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I would like to know...

how you came to these percentages :)

"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on Mar 1, 2009 9:19 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

kidding aside...

Good work. Quite informative.

"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on Mar 1, 2009 9:19 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

bally's talking neck.

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by larry on Mar 1, 2009 9:23 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Also...

Marquez kinda looks like Swisher in that picture.

"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on Mar 1, 2009 9:24 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

i can see that

But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.

by U-God on Mar 1, 2009 9:29 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

everyone who has a goatee looks the same to me.

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by larry on Mar 1, 2009 9:33 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The goatee? The intensity in those dark eyes?

You can’t see it?

"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on Mar 1, 2009 9:44 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

i could see it a little in the above picture

with marquez lookin all shaggy and whatnot

but then i did this


But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.

by U-God on Mar 1, 2009 9:54 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeppers.

"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on Mar 1, 2009 10:28 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on Mar 1, 2009 10:32 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I see it.

"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on Mar 1, 2009 10:38 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Didn't mean to turn this into a Swisher pic-fest.

I’ll stop now.

"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on Mar 1, 2009 10:39 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not ready to come out yet.

"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on Mar 2, 2009 10:59 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

In your own time, my man.

In your own time.

the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST

by winningugly on Mar 2, 2009 11:00 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

From the I love Ichiro file
While he says the prospect of hitting third doesn’t change the way he prepares, Ichiro did make a few curious changes to his offseason training routine. The Mariners’ eight-time Gold Glove outfielder took ground balls regularly at shortstop. Ever the perfectionist, he wasn’t content chasing after hard bouncers with his outfielder’s glove, so he had a smaller infielder’s glove made especially for the exercise.

“I could become a Gold Glove-caliber shortstop,” he quipped when asked to evaluate his potential. “Not as talented as [Omar] Vizquel, but definitely on par with Jeter.”

But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.

by U-God on Mar 1, 2009 10:14 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

hahahahaha....

I love Ichiro’s sense of humor.

The Jeter quip might be the best I’ve read.

"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on Mar 1, 2009 10:29 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

They should mic him up during the All-Star game

I want to hear his infamous expletive-filled pre-game rant.

Confusion breeds success. If they don't know each other, opponents can't have strategy. GENIUS.

by Ozzie Montana on Mar 1, 2009 10:32 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Trade Wise and Broadway for Ichiro

and he can become our CF/SS/SP#5

There was an incident a few years ago. The Bulls were killing the Knicks, scrubs were playing out the clock, and the fans were screaming at them to score 100 points for free Big Macs. They took a ton of shots, Knicks took offense and they tried to fight some Bulls players.

by Ozzie Montana on Feb 19, 2009 5:25 PM EST

by Jbasic89 on Mar 1, 2009 10:32 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

id rather him be our cf/2nd/sp5

i suck - the sox dont - SSH2005

by BoeJouma on Mar 1, 2009 10:40 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

But one's hitting has nothing to do with Gold Glove voting.

"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on Mar 1, 2009 11:03 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

clearly?

Cashing checks and having sex.

by MarketMaker on Mar 1, 2009 11:08 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I too was being facetious.

"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on Mar 1, 2009 11:11 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

This is old. OLD.

Come on, PF, spend your time productively, like those simulated games. Dick Allen is itching to go long.

the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST

by winningugly on Mar 2, 2009 9:01 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

i will be getting back to those tonight after my physics test

But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.

by U-God on Mar 2, 2009 10:23 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Global Warming?

In 4 hours we’ve gotten almost a foot of snow here in Rock Hill, SC. That is a little more than double our yearly average.

Since this is my own private Hell, maybe you can start the “When Hell freezes over…” remarks… Cubs to win 2009 World Series, Obama to balance budget, Ozzie to go entire season without saying something offensive or stupid, etc.

"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on Mar 1, 2009 11:02 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

ssh coming back

i suck - the sox dont - SSH2005

by BoeJouma on Mar 2, 2009 1:15 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh no...

"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on Mar 2, 2009 10:55 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

i know GW is a load of crap.

btw… polar bears can swim up to 60 miles before drowning… so much for the weak polar bears sitting on the iceberg starving…

So, if I am reading the two options correctly . . .
we can either a) keep dye or b) trade dye . . . is that you Phil Rogers?

by jc2313 on Dec 11, 2008 4:53 PM CST up reply recommended Unrec 1

by Where Triples Go to Die on Mar 2, 2009 10:03 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

You're such an ass.

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Mar 2, 2009 10:07 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

C'mon

don’t buy into the hype… don’t you question when someone is asking you for money???

So, if I am reading the two options correctly . . .
we can either a) keep dye or b) trade dye . . . is that you Phil Rogers?

by jc2313 on Dec 11, 2008 4:53 PM CST up reply recommended Unrec 1

by Where Triples Go to Die on Mar 2, 2009 10:23 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

the cubs can't swim that far

But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.

by U-God on Mar 2, 2009 10:24 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

the cubs can swim to 97 wins SON!

So, if I am reading the two options correctly . . .
we can either a) keep dye or b) trade dye . . . is that you Phil Rogers?

by jc2313 on Dec 11, 2008 4:53 PM CST up reply recommended Unrec 1

by Where Triples Go to Die on Mar 2, 2009 10:25 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

then backstroke in the playoffs...

So, if I am reading the two options correctly . . .
we can either a) keep dye or b) trade dye . . . is that you Phil Rogers?

by jc2313 on Dec 11, 2008 4:53 PM CST up reply recommended Unrec 1

by Where Triples Go to Die on Mar 2, 2009 10:25 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

breaststroke would have been the better one to pick there

its the slowest of the four

But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.

by U-God on Mar 2, 2009 10:27 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

true, but it doesn't look as relaxing

I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.

by thatshortkid on Mar 2, 2009 12:05 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

it is much, much more relaxing

granted, i was a backstroker

But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.

by U-God on Mar 2, 2009 12:19 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

the exact response i expected

But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.

by U-God on Mar 2, 2009 10:25 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

lol you seen the commerecial...

So, if I am reading the two options correctly . . .
we can either a) keep dye or b) trade dye . . . is that you Phil Rogers?

by jc2313 on Dec 11, 2008 4:53 PM CST up reply recommended Unrec 1

by Where Triples Go to Die on Mar 2, 2009 10:55 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

once

we also talked about it in one of my classes. we had a guest speaker who is apparently an expert on bears. she explained that while the adult bears can swim well enough for it to not be a big problem, the cubs pretty much are fucked. and that’s what the problem is.

But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.

by U-God on Mar 2, 2009 11:55 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

isn't it the responsibility of the mother to find food for her children?

So, if I am reading the two options correctly . . .
we can either a) keep dye or b) trade dye . . . is that you Phil Rogers?

by jc2313 on Dec 11, 2008 4:53 PM CST up reply recommended Unrec 1

by Where Triples Go to Die on Mar 2, 2009 12:43 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

the mother can get to the food and make the kill

it can’t get the food back. usually what happens is the mother makes the kill, and the cub comes to the food or the food isn’t far enough away that it would be unrealistic to return with the food. swimming with a dead seal in your mouth isn’t fairly easy. and it isn’t just a food angle, its more of an exhaustion thing. the cub will try to swim the distance, get fatigued, and die out in the water.

But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.

by U-God on Mar 2, 2009 12:57 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Educate yourself

But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.

by U-God on Mar 2, 2009 1:14 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

nice pun :)

"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on Mar 2, 2009 10:56 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

"why is this person asking me for money?"

“why are they making commercials that are scientifically false?”

So, if I am reading the two options correctly . . .
we can either a) keep dye or b) trade dye . . . is that you Phil Rogers?

by jc2313 on Dec 11, 2008 4:53 PM CST up reply recommended Unrec 1

by Where Triples Go to Die on Mar 2, 2009 10:24 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

If you're just screwing around, that's alright

but if you’re serious, I highly recommend that you actually do some reading into the subject and look at who was paying for the studies that “proved” global warming does not exist. If you want to point out the problems with “An Inconvenient Truth”, the website has already been made. Al Gore exaggerates, but so do all of the pundits pushing in the opposite direction.

The usual poster boy for the global warming skeptic crowd is a prof. at Columbia that studies atmospheric science. In his own research (curiously not mentioned in his editorials for the WSJ), he speaks of climate change, but in less severe terms. In other words, in his estimation the severity of the situation isn’t such that the world is severely screwed in 50 years if things don’t change, we’re screwed in more of a 150-200 year time frame, but shit is still going to hit the fan.

Furthermore, the largest backers / publishers of the anti-climate change movement (oil companies) have changed their tune entirely. Look at where Exxon, Chevron, and BP are investing their money. Exxon is researching alternative energy, BP has put significant money into biofuels, and Chevron helps schools purchase solar panels. Oil companies are looking to diversify their expertise as well as their public image, hence they are now calling themselves “energy” companies. When those who originated the argument have abandoned it and reversed course, you should question what their motive was in the first place.

There’s plenty of good information out there, many of it may be too technical for those without college science courses, but you should take this opportunity to become more educated on the topic if you truly are skeptical of and interested in climate change.

You are right. But larry is actually a prick too.
- HSA 01/07/09

by rhythm on Mar 2, 2009 2:06 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I have read the fact or fiction website. I don't necessarily disagree with you either.

Sure we have probably harmed the enviroment in the past 150 years. During the industrial age, the dramatic spike over a roughly short period of time may hint to GW. As far as using video’s of cute polar bears to warm the hearts of wealthy Americans, willing to spend their money on a great cause, is evil. Studies have shown that there are more polar bears in the arctic than ever before. I have no problem with the Global Warming cause. I have a problem with companies trying to profit off of it. IMO, it is more of a national security issue that we rely on foreign oil than a climatic one. Sure less fossil fuels will save our children’s children, but what good will that do when we keep funding terroists in the middle east who supply this oil? This is most likely a major reason the US has put pressure on these big oil company to become energy efficient. Not to mention that the oil supply will eventually run out so they better start coming up with alternatives now. Point being, there may be some truth to it, but scaring people into donating by using misleading information is wrong.

So, if I am reading the two options correctly . . .
we can either a) keep dye or b) trade dye . . . is that you Phil Rogers?

by jc2313 on Dec 11, 2008 4:53 PM CST up reply recommended Unrec 1

by Where Triples Go to Die on Mar 2, 2009 2:46 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

what studies are you referring to in regards that there are more polar bears than ever before?

The IUCN (International Union for Conservation of Nature and Natural Resources) have labeled the polar bear as a “Vulnerable” species with a projected population decline of around 30% over the next 45 or so years as a result of loss of habitat. Cite you supposed “studies”.

But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.

by U-God on Mar 2, 2009 3:03 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

do some more research.

So, if I am reading the two options correctly . . .
we can either a) keep dye or b) trade dye . . . is that you Phil Rogers?

by jc2313 on Dec 11, 2008 4:53 PM CST up reply recommended Unrec 1

by Where Triples Go to Die on Mar 2, 2009 3:15 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

see

this is one of the reasons you are so disliked around here. anytime anyone else asks you what your sources are for any information, you refuse to acknowledge the request and answer “look it up yourself”. you can’t just make shit up and expect people not to call bullshit. now, i will try to ask again. what studies are you referencing in regards to this record number of polar bears?

But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.

by U-God on Mar 2, 2009 3:18 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

what studies are you referring to in regards that there are more polar bears than ever before?

stephen colbert edited wikipedia entries

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Mar 2, 2009 3:21 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

this is why I can't stand you!

you google polar bears and go to the first website you see. Read up on the subject. Plus, quit replying to everyone of my posts if you don’t like me.

So, if I am reading the two options correctly . . .
we can either a) keep dye or b) trade dye . . . is that you Phil Rogers?

by jc2313 on Dec 11, 2008 4:53 PM CST up reply recommended Unrec 1

by Where Triples Go to Die on Mar 3, 2009 8:18 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

No, I don't google polar bears.

I go to the IUCN website, which I know because my major happens to be studying animals and I am taking a class on world animals resources. When I see someone spouting complete and utter bullshit, I call them on it and use the sites that I know from my major to provide them with actual facts, not gut check feelings. It would be like if I came on here and started spouting out crap about how bills of lading don’t actually say what got where. Then, since we would be in your area of knowledge, you would be able to step up and maybe contribute something.

But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.

by U-God on Mar 3, 2009 9:39 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

holy shit. a calm, reasoned out, erudite response. rec'd.

i disagree with the polar bear assertion and would like to know where you got that idea, though.

looking up the matter further, i think you might be quoting some misleading information. simply googling "polar bear population, you get stuff quoting the people U-God sourced, but in a different article. in short, polar bear population has increased from the 50’s/60’s, but that’s because a) we have better data to estimate population and, more importantly, b) we stopped shooting them as much. like you said, we’ve been having an effect on the environment. it doesn’t take that big of a logical leap to say that if you fuck up a habitat, the things in that habitat get fucked up too. a snippet from the article (when asked about population increases reported on Fox News):

Sea ice change and habitat loss is the key driving force. Ignore the bears for a moment and look at the evidence for sea ice change: NASA is a key player in looking at the actual decreases in sea ice. It is an easy matter to put the dots together: no habitat, no seals; no seals, no bears. This never was an issue of polar bears alone. The only effective conservation approach is to protect the habitat and this is an issue of climate change. You can distort the issue any way you so desire. At the end of the day, the sea ice is disappearing. Take away the habitat and the species follows shortly thereafter (or before).

Comparing declines caused by harvest followed by recovery from harvest controls to declines from loss of habitat and climate warming are apples and oranges. Ignorant people write ignorant things.

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I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.

by thatshortkid on Mar 2, 2009 3:35 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

thank you TSK

if his argument was based on the more bears than the 50/60’s basis, then yeah, that is one terrible argument he tried to present.

how did we wind up talking about polar bears on here

But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.

by U-God on Mar 2, 2009 3:49 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

This is all my fault.

I started talking about Global Warming since it snowed 10 inches in South Carolina this weekend… and somehow that got the discussion onto polar bears. I should probably fall on the sword here.

"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on Mar 3, 2009 9:29 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

i'm going with richard

but it’s likely that colon + one other starter will be down at the same time, we will need one of the others. it would be great if poreda is the next one up, but if he can’t refine his other pitches, then i’m going with marquez.

by onlysoxfaninboston on Mar 2, 2009 8:02 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Marquez -

he’s a righty, he’s Latin, and he was traded for Swisher, meaning they want to see some value ASAP. Unless he spits the bit in a major way, JM is going North.

the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST

by winningugly on Mar 2, 2009 9:02 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Marquez over Richard?

I’m tempted to make a wager, but I’ve learned my lesson.

WU, do you still have my email addy? I need your mailing address. The books should be arriving any day now, and I want to mail them out well before the season starts.

by onlysoxfaninboston on Mar 2, 2009 9:16 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Send it to be at dnolte@cfl.rr.com.

Also, be my FB friend, Doc.

the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST

by winningugly on Mar 2, 2009 9:59 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Pleading with people to be your FB friend?

you are pathetic, OPOS.

You are right. But larry is actually a prick too.
- HSA 01/07/09

by rhythm on Mar 2, 2009 2:09 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

with the season starting on august 6, i wouldn't want you to hurt yourself climbing out on that limb.

even skipping his first turn, which i would consider unlikely considering ozzie’s predilections, the latest the fifth starter would appear is the 15th.

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by larry on Mar 2, 2009 9:48 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

* april

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by larry on Mar 2, 2009 9:57 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

LOL.

Thought you knew something I didn’t. (Leaves self WIDE open…)

the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST

by winningugly on Mar 2, 2009 10:00 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

and by that time one of Count or Colon will be ready

Hopefully a spot start from Clayton or Egbert or Marquez is all that’s needed to get the Sox into May with both Colon and Count ready to go.

by madvillian on Mar 2, 2009 9:14 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Thanks, Cheat.

I’ve got a little more confidence in Richard than I did when we were rotationally-fucked at the end of last season.
I’m looking forward to seeing Poreda pitch in the big time.
And I am really really really looking forward to seeing the return of The Count.

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Mar 2, 2009 9:17 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

I am sure Richard is happy to hear this...

HSA approves of him a little more than she used to!!!

So, if I am reading the two options correctly . . .
we can either a) keep dye or b) trade dye . . . is that you Phil Rogers?

by jc2313 on Dec 11, 2008 4:53 PM CST up reply recommended Unrec 1

by Where Triples Go to Die on Mar 2, 2009 10:04 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

d;P

So, if I am reading the two options correctly . . .
we can either a) keep dye or b) trade dye . . . is that you Phil Rogers?

by jc2313 on Dec 11, 2008 4:53 PM CST up reply recommended Unrec 1

by Where Triples Go to Die on Mar 2, 2009 10:47 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

This guy annoys me more than SSH ever did.

He fills every comment section with complete pointlessness. Arrgh.

Note: that’s the reason I rarely post comments anymore.

Settle down with the designer stats. This isn’t fucking algebra, it’s baseball..

by defensive indifference on Mar 2, 2009 10:48 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

It is being monitored by at least one of us.

The OT crap is beginning to get wearying, I agree. It seems distracting, not offensive.

If you don’t post, the terrorists win, DI.

the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST

by winningugly on Mar 2, 2009 10:53 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I know!

I have been trying to come with some cutting edge new material but the only reference I can find around my house is the 1974 edition of the Book of Baseball Records.

Settle down with the designer stats. This isn’t fucking algebra, it’s baseball..

by defensive indifference on Mar 2, 2009 10:58 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

go cry me a river...

i respond to senseless attacks.

So, if I am reading the two options correctly . . .
we can either a) keep dye or b) trade dye . . . is that you Phil Rogers?

by jc2313 on Dec 11, 2008 4:53 PM CST up reply recommended Unrec 1

by Where Triples Go to Die on Mar 2, 2009 11:03 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

you had no reason/right to call me an ass...

I wasn’t talking to you, but you still decided to put your 2 cents in. simple as that. Just the facts…

So, if I am reading the two options correctly . . .
we can either a) keep dye or b) trade dye . . . is that you Phil Rogers?

by jc2313 on Dec 11, 2008 4:53 PM CST up reply recommended Unrec 1

by Where Triples Go to Die on Mar 2, 2009 11:18 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

therefore, a senseless attack.

So, if I am reading the two options correctly . . .
we can either a) keep dye or b) trade dye . . . is that you Phil Rogers?

by jc2313 on Dec 11, 2008 4:53 PM CST up reply recommended Unrec 1

by Where Triples Go to Die on Mar 2, 2009 11:18 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

you know... I like you!!! you are the only one here I can win an arguement against!

So, if I am reading the two options correctly . . .
we can either a) keep dye or b) trade dye . . . is that you Phil Rogers?

by jc2313 on Dec 11, 2008 4:53 PM CST up reply recommended Unrec 1

by Where Triples Go to Die on Mar 2, 2009 11:20 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

[x]

So, if I am reading the two options correctly . . .
we can either a) keep dye or b) trade dye . . . is that you Phil Rogers?

by jc2313 on Dec 11, 2008 4:53 PM CST up reply recommended Unrec 1

by Where Triples Go to Die on Mar 2, 2009 12:44 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

that kind of proves her point

But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.

by U-God on Mar 2, 2009 12:57 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I completely understand

as you can see above.

You are right. But larry is actually a prick too.
- HSA 01/07/09

by rhythm on Mar 2, 2009 2:12 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

think of it like trooper farva

we’re all guilty of OT shenanigans. most of the time, our shenanigans are cheeky and fun. his shenanigans, however, are cruel and tragic.

I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.

by thatshortkid on Mar 2, 2009 12:15 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine

by Sox Machine on Mar 2, 2009 12:50 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

who deleted my post about uribe fat jokes?

So, if I am reading the two options correctly . . .
we can either a) keep dye or b) trade dye . . . is that you Phil Rogers?

by jc2313 on Dec 11, 2008 4:53 PM CST up reply recommended Unrec 1

by Where Triples Go to Die on Mar 4, 2009 9:32 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

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