White Sox Probable Lineup
by The Cheat on Feb 3, 2009 12:47 AM CST
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Print- Jerry Owens (CF)
- AJ Pierzynski (C)
- Carlos Quentin (LF)
- Jim Thome (DH)
- Jermaine Dye (RF)
- Paul Konerko (1B)
- Alexei Ramirez (SS)
- Josh Fields (3B)
- Chris Getz (2B)
The Thome/Dye/Konerko trio will likely move around based largely on health. I could also see Getz moved to the 8th spot to avoid having two relatively inexperienced left-handers back-to-back, and three in a row.
As we've discussed before, AJ is probably the player the Sox can least afford to lose. And last year at this time, many of us thought Carlos Quentin was the key to the Sox season. I had a similar thought this year regarding one of the new probable starters. Wondering if you all thought the same.
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by thatshortkid on Feb 3, 2009 11:21 AM CST up reply actions
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larry has that system down to a science. Especially with the way the economy is….big wigs like larry coming in dressed in their mink coats and 24k gold cigarrete holders with pockets lined with coke make for a large draw during shift changes.
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
that shit is weak
its all models for mlb.com or photoshop.
you need real babes in the stands for that to be worth a damn.
"Thats terrible." - President Obama at the Commander-In-Chief Ball, to a soldier in Afghanistan from Chicago after Mr. President asked him if he was a Cubs fan or a Sox fan and the grunt said Cub fan. Out of the seven Chicagoland sodiers, 4 said Cubs, 3 said Sox.
we need 2 out of 3 to surprise......
….can’t have two automatic outs in the lineup.
Fields
Fields ceiling is much higher than the other two. If he has a Quentin type breakout year (.265 30 HR 95 RBI) the sox will be in business. If he comes out and hits .190 through May the Sox will be in trouble.
Kenwo4life=ratings
Getz....
Getz ceiling is much higher than the other two. If he has a Pedroia type breakout year (.326 17HR 83Rbi) the sox will be in business. If he comes out and hits .190 through May the Sox will be in trouble.
wait for it
wait for it
Please tell me that you were kidding when you wrote that piece about fields…. Hoping Fields has a Quentin like year is about as likely as the Getz Pedroia….
We didn’t rely on offense from 3rd base last year…. anything above 250 and 18 homers with average defense from fields i will consider a big bonus…
I am going to ask you one time, and i'm gonna ask you nice. Where the fuck is Ringo bitch.
Well at least Fields has shown us power at the major league level
with 23 HR in 100 games. I think he definately has the potential for 30 bombs. Likely, no, but we have seen it before.
by JoeCoolMan24 on Feb 3, 2009 7:44 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
finally a good point
So, if I am reading the two options correctly . . .
we can either a) keep dye or b) trade dye . . . is that you Phil Rogers?
by jc2313 on Dec 11, 2008 4:53 PM CST up reply recommended Unrec 1
by Where Triples Go to Die on Feb 3, 2009 9:26 AM CST up reply actions
Who gives a shit about Fields hitting 30 home runs...?
Really…?
Anyone at all..?
He hit 23 two years ago….. Played piss pour defense Struck out an amazing 33.5% of the time and had an obp of 308…
One article and some ass kissing to assistant coaches and he’s going to be the next Carlos Quentin all of the sudden.
Fields minor league strike out rate is still right around 30% 512k’s 1685 at bats…..
Oh and the club believes in him so much they just bought an 8 million dollar prospect.
I am going to ask you one time, and i'm gonna ask you nice. Where the fuck is Ringo bitch.
ED (really unfortunate initials, BTW), I agree.
I still have my Dave Kingman autographed ball, and I don’t think anyone wants to buy it even though he hit 442 HR’s.
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by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT
huh?
So, if I am reading the two options correctly . . .
we can either a) keep dye or b) trade dye . . . is that you Phil Rogers?
by jc2313 on Dec 11, 2008 4:53 PM CST up reply recommended Unrec 1
by Where Triples Go to Die on Feb 3, 2009 9:26 AM CST up reply actions
Oh i understand that Fields has power.....
He can really hit a breaking ball. It just doesn’t seem like people are going to throw him breaking ball strikes….. He lacks plate discipline and the ability to hit a fastball.
I think comparing him to Quentin is a huge stretch.
I am more concerned with his defense….. I am sure playing with Cora’s balls all winter has gotten him into Ozzie’s good graces..
I am going to ask you one time, and i'm gonna ask you nice. Where the fuck is Ringo bitch.
Did someone say Practice??
We’re talkin about PRACTICE!?
So, if I am reading the two options correctly . . .
we can either a) keep dye or b) trade dye . . . is that you Phil Rogers?
by jc2313 on Dec 11, 2008 4:53 PM CST up reply recommended Unrec 1
by Where Triples Go to Die on Feb 3, 2009 9:27 AM CST up reply actions
I think the Q comparison
Was in relation to how Q all the sudden went on an offensive rampage throughout the league, I think he was saying hopefully Fields can follow in those footsteps. And since we have seen Fields power, it’s not totally outlandish.
its pretty outlandish
Quentin was considered a top prospect in all of baseball before he got hurt and shuffled back.
Fields cracked the top 5 in the Sox organization. Can he hit 30 at the cell? Sure why not. Will he have 180+ strikeouts to go with it? Yeah, probably.
"Thats terrible." - President Obama at the Commander-In-Chief Ball, to a soldier in Afghanistan from Chicago after Mr. President asked him if he was a Cubs fan or a Sox fan and the grunt said Cub fan. Out of the seven Chicagoland sodiers, 4 said Cubs, 3 said Sox.
I didn't compare him to Quentin.
I really am not a fan of Fields. However, he did show off his power in 07… If he could progress a little even farther than that it would mean good things. I am just saying if he has a Quentin type break out season it would have a huge impact on the team.
Kenwo4life=ratings
Sorry for the misunderstanding then.....
Carlos if healthy might have been your MVP last year……
Saying that someone might have a Quentin type break out season means a lot to me. It’s not a statement that i would just throw around……
That’s what I was getting at… How many times have we as white sox fans seen a Carlos Quentin type break out year..?
Any time you have a prospect/unknown put up those kind of numbers it would have a “huge impact” on the team.
I am going to ask you one time, and i'm gonna ask you nice. Where the fuck is Ringo bitch.
Owens.
It all starts at the top. Pods had a decent 2005 – we won. We’ve been searching since – not as successful. And we need someone with range to cover the lard in the OF. Owens tanks, we’re toast no matter how brilliant the other 2 are.
I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT
BA
So, if I am reading the two options correctly . . .
we can either a) keep dye or b) trade dye . . . is that you Phil Rogers?
by jc2313 on Dec 11, 2008 4:53 PM CST up reply recommended Unrec 1
by Where Triples Go to Die on Feb 3, 2009 9:27 AM CST up reply actions
I could
have swore we were not toast last year without that top of the order hitter. I really don’t think the entire season rests on Owens not tanking . . . I could think of 10 things more important.
We had better defense last year (I am projecting '09's to be worse, obviously).
We won a championship with a decent person at the order. We eked out a division with the wrong guy leading off. I maintain it will be easier to replace a 2B or 3B’s stick. We have a gaping hole in CF and at the top of the order. If Owens improves what we had last year (not hard) it will be magnified in a positive way.
I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT
Kind of agree . . .
I just don’t think the difference between Podsednik and Cabrera leading off is the difference between winning a championship and eeking out a division. The probability that Owens will even provide what Cabrera did out of the leadoff spot is low. The best bet to increase value in CF is Anderson because you can at least rely on + defense to offset a weak bat.
I am very aware of JO's limits and agree with you.
I’m looking at the question from a “who would have the most positive impact”, since I think all 3 are going to suck, if not in a major way, then at least in not fulfilling expectations of beatling last year’s performance. (And I suppose if I truly thought about it, I think Getz might be the key, since Che actually DID something as a 2B last year – we got nuthin’ from 3B and CF anyway.)
I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT
anyone remember the game...
that Q! threw out Renteria from the warning track tagging up at first base? Amazing play.
But in that same game, Dontrelle Willis had the ugliest no hitter going you can imagine through 6 innings. And Willis sucked ass last year. He had like 6 walks and no strikeouts. Well this year, he might get a few strikeouts. I forgot where I was going with that, Go Sox.
"Thats terrible." - President Obama at the Commander-In-Chief Ball, to a soldier in Afghanistan from Chicago after Mr. President asked him if he was a Cubs fan or a Sox fan and the grunt said Cub fan. Out of the seven Chicagoland sodiers, 4 said Cubs, 3 said Sox.
Fields.
Even if he doesn’t “develop” as a disciplined hitter, we can ill afford a shitty defense at 3B. Especially next to an unproven (though hopefully good) SS. With the Sox traditionally giving up too many unearned runs, Fields glove is key to me.
And WU, speaking of Pods, wasn’t his ‘05 decent only in the 1st half? And we made the playoffs despite his ’offensive’ 2nd half?
"A good cigar is like a beautiful chick with a great body who also knows the American League box scores. "
Klinger
CORA
So, if I am reading the two options correctly . . .
we can either a) keep dye or b) trade dye . . . is that you Phil Rogers?
by jc2313 on Dec 11, 2008 4:53 PM CST up reply recommended Unrec 1
by Where Triples Go to Die on Feb 3, 2009 9:27 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah, I guess his playoff heroics didn't help much.
And just maybe the 2nd half swoon might’ve been slightly related to his injuries? Remember, man, he was our talisman. We “made” the playoffs (barely) when he returned healthy.
I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT
news -am I first
White Sox make Abreu one-year offer
2/3/2009
The White Sox have made free agent outfielder Bobby Abreu a one-year offer for $8 million, the New York Daily News reported.
Abreu made $16 million last season with the Yankees, hitting .296 with 20 homers, 100 RBIs, 100 runs and 22 steals.
The White Sox are the latest team linked to Abreu in the past week. The New York Post reported that the Mets have shown some interest, but have not made an offer. The Seattle Times reported that the Mariners were interested.
number one when it mattered!
Do a fanpost or shot with link hood.
"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."
by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."
I thought we were out of money?
Why would we back ourselves into a corner signing another outfielder before the one we have is traded?
So, if I am reading the two options correctly . . .
we can either a) keep dye or b) trade dye . . . is that you Phil Rogers?
by jc2313 on Dec 11, 2008 4:53 PM CST up reply recommended Unrec 1
by Where Triples Go to Die on Feb 3, 2009 9:30 AM CST up reply actions
This could be bad news for you WTGTD
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Feb 3, 2009 9:43 AM CST up reply actions
i dunno, but i'll see if i can get these guys to lead us out of the service with "amazing grace"
I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.
by thatshortkid on Feb 3, 2009 11:32 AM CST up reply actions
Do they wear anything 'neath the kilts?
I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT
if it's WTGTD's eulogy?
definitely commando.
I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.
by thatshortkid on Feb 3, 2009 11:53 AM CST up reply actions
So they can urinate more quickly on the gravesite?
I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT
it seemed appropriate, given his love of hairy legs in plaid skirts
but your idea has merit, too.
I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.
by thatshortkid on Feb 3, 2009 12:42 PM CST up reply actions
what is your problem with me WUOPOSAURES?
So, if I am reading the two options correctly . . .
we can either a) keep dye or b) trade dye . . . is that you Phil Rogers?
by jc2313 on Dec 11, 2008 4:53 PM CST up reply recommended Unrec 1
by Where Triples Go to Die on Feb 4, 2009 8:41 AM CST up reply actions
It's a joke.
I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT
WuOpOs
I will be honest, I am disappointed that you partake in this sort of debauchery.
So, if I am reading the two options correctly . . .
we can either a) keep dye or b) trade dye . . . is that you Phil Rogers?
by jc2313 on Dec 11, 2008 4:53 PM CST up reply recommended Unrec 1
by Where Triples Go to Die on Feb 5, 2009 8:20 AM CST up reply actions
i can play the trumpet at the service lolz
takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm
Better to have 3 good ones, and get screwed
than have 1 good one and get screwed.
Ozzie would have fun
writing 7 different lineups every week . . . I could see that working.
i think that means a trade is lined up.
if they do indeed sign Abreu.
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
I like it. He still has to accept it.
I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT
Fields
The team needs him to move to at least slightly below defense at 3b and a .750 OPS.
I feel pretty good about 2b, I think between the 3 options the Sox will get replacement value there.
I still subscribe (like last year) that Owens is not talented enough to remain on the field for any significant amount of time. Yes he may start the season but he just won’t be around long enough to do the damage IMO.
"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."
by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."
I'm going to agree with that
An argument can be made that for the 2009 offense Owens is the most important — a high OBP at the top of the order would probably make a big difference in run production. Plus, he’s expected to be the suckiest of the 3, so him raising his game to unprecedented heights would have the biggest impact in a way.
But, Fields is the one that showed the ability generate offense at relatively high level for rookie. If he can can somehow hit a fastball and cut down the Ks, he has the ability to be an elite power hitter. And honestly, the chances of Fields being something special is simply more realistic and more important to the Sox beyond 2009. So, it may be answering a different question, but Fields’ performance is the most important of the 3 to the Sox long-term…..
by hitlesswonder on Feb 3, 2009 9:29 AM CST up reply actions
Is our defense going to be very bad?
Unless we’re SHOCKED, would any person in that lineup be considered a plus defender at his position?
White Sox '09 Slogan: Maybe we can?
From what I hear Alexei could be
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Feb 3, 2009 9:44 AM CST up reply actions
Lillibridge?
plus at 2nd?
"Thats terrible." - President Obama at the Commander-In-Chief Ball, to a soldier in Afghanistan from Chicago after Mr. President asked him if he was a Cubs fan or a Sox fan and the grunt said Cub fan. Out of the seven Chicagoland sodiers, 4 said Cubs, 3 said Sox.
possibly the double play combo, but that's it.
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
Abreu
According to Roger Rubin of the New York Daily News, the White Sox offered a one-year, $8MM deal to free agent outfielder Bobby Abreu. If the Sox are able to sign Abreu, you’d have to think Jermaine Dye or Jim Thome would be traded.
Abreu has also been linked recently to the Braves, Mariners, Dodgers, and Giants.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
Wow...I am a little slow today.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Feb 3, 2009 9:42 AM CST up reply actions
SOMEONE WANTS THOME???
So, if I am reading the two options correctly . . .
we can either a) keep dye or b) trade dye . . . is that you Phil Rogers?
by jc2313 on Dec 11, 2008 4:53 PM CST up reply recommended Unrec 1
by Where Triples Go to Die on Feb 3, 2009 11:39 AM CST up reply actions
God that is sickening
To have Owens and AJ, both dead locks to not put up an OBP of over .350, right in front of Q.
Please sign abreu and bat him leadoff and ship out dye for prospects.
kthnxbai
I like..
If Dye is traded for young arms, I like this lineup:
1. Abreu, LF (L)
2. A.J., C (L)
3. Quentin, RF®
4. Thome, DH (L)
5. Konerko, 1B®
6. Ramirez, SS®
7. Fields, 3B®
8. Owens, CF (L)
9. Getz, 2B (L)
I like this lineup . . .
Ichiro-RF
Hudson-2B
Quentin-LF
Thome-DH
Ramirez-SS
Kotchman-1B
Rowand – CF
AJ-C
Figgins-3B
wheres darin erstad?
larry has that system down to a science. Especially with the way the economy is….big wigs like larry coming in dressed in their mink coats and 24k gold cigarrete holders with pockets lined with coke make for a large draw during shift changes.
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
On the bench,
late inning defensive replacement and for his overall grindiness and clutchness.
E. Santana - P
So, if I am reading the two options correctly . . .
we can either a) keep dye or b) trade dye . . . is that you Phil Rogers?
by jc2313 on Dec 11, 2008 4:53 PM CST up reply recommended Unrec 1
by Where Triples Go to Die on Feb 3, 2009 12:39 PM CST up reply actions
Offensively, it's Owens...
But overall, I’d probably change my vote to Fields. I really hope all the work he put in with Cora pays off, because the Sox cannot afford to have somebody with a -10.1 UZR at third base this year.
Chicago White Sox Examiner — Your what hurts?
On a side note,
I really don’t feel AJ is as indispensable this year . . . I think Danks, maybe even Quentin take the ‘player the Sox can least afford to lose’ crown this year.
They do have Armstrong ready (or almost) to take AJ’s place and while he likely would not be AJ’s offensive equivalent, it is likely he would have superior defense. I just don’t think the dropoff is as large as say from Danks to SC6 . . . yikes.
A pitcher?
Nope, just like the MVP is rarely a pitcher, the “LATL” position is not a pitcher. It’s still AJ, unless our Maple Leaf comes through.
I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT
I think the key word there is rarely . . .
. . . the White Sox MVP last year arguably was Danks. AJ is not LATL anymore.
The Sox MVP was Q.
Gavin was equally as important as Danksy.
I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT
Wouldn't disagree with Quentin.
I think it was either Danks or Quentin . . . but, from a value perspective, Floyd was well behind Danks. Sure, from an MVP voters perspective, I am sure Floyd was more valuable . . . I mean he won 17 games to Danks 12 . . . that is not even close. But, Danks was quite awesome last year, probably better than most realize.
I get what you are saying, and I don't disagree than wins don't tell the story.
I mean that both were big ?? before the season and both more than held their own.
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by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT
Danks was twice as valuable as Gavin last year.
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
Based upon what?
I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT
I believe in peace.
But I would look beyond your WAR-like ways and go additionally to what was expeced of each of them last year. Are you going to tell me Danks performed twice above his expected return vs. Gavin? I don’t buy it. And Gavin donned his BHB before Danksy did.
I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT
I can see an argument where
Danks, just by the virtue of being near Floyd’s BHB, led to his Game 163 performance.
if we're talking how each performed over their allotment of starts in 2008
Danks was twice as good as Gavin. that sounds right to me. Danksy could be an ace. Gavin is still Gavin. BHB is a third place prize.
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
We're talking about what the expectations of performance of each
was before 2008 began. I have a hard time believing Danks did double the level of expectation and he sure didn’t “double” Gavin’s output.
Now, fast forward to 2009, and do I believe Danks will be “double” the pitcher Gavin is? Maybe.
I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT
well you are.
in terms of evaluation, the BHB tag is the epitome of overvaluing a few games. i think Danks will probably regress this year, perhaps even the whole staff. i think making the playoffs is especially taxing and it’s not like the position players are going to be taking up slack this year.
then again, the Sox under Kenny have had at least average starters every single year and since 2005 they’ve been great.
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
what is it good for?
I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.
by thatshortkid on Feb 3, 2009 12:43 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Rec'd. Nice, you OPOS.
I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT
shit
didnt see that way down here
"Thats terrible." - President Obama at the Commander-In-Chief Ball, to a soldier in Afghanistan from Chicago after Mr. President asked him if he was a Cubs fan or a Sox fan and the grunt said Cub fan. Out of the seven Chicagoland sodiers, 4 said Cubs, 3 said Sox.
what it is it good for?
"Thats terrible." - President Obama at the Commander-In-Chief Ball, to a soldier in Afghanistan from Chicago after Mr. President asked him if he was a Cubs fan or a Sox fan and the grunt said Cub fan. Out of the seven Chicagoland sodiers, 4 said Cubs, 3 said Sox.
So rec his post, you plagartist.
I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT
by winningugly on Feb 3, 2009 2:12 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
fuck yeah colin!!!!
takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm
global warming is fiction
So, if I am reading the two options correctly . . .
we can either a) keep dye or b) trade dye . . . is that you Phil Rogers?
by jc2313 on Dec 11, 2008 4:53 PM CST up reply recommended Unrec 1
by Where Triples Go to Die on Feb 3, 2009 12:42 PM CST up reply actions
Based upon what?
So, if I am reading the two options correctly . . .
we can either a) keep dye or b) trade dye . . . is that you Phil Rogers?
by jc2313 on Dec 11, 2008 4:53 PM CST up reply recommended Unrec 1
by Where Triples Go to Die on Feb 3, 2009 12:41 PM CST up reply actions
Arguably
was either Quentin or Floyd, if you want to bring pitchers into the MVP mix…
So, if I am reading the two options correctly . . .
we can either a) keep dye or b) trade dye . . . is that you Phil Rogers?
by jc2313 on Dec 11, 2008 4:53 PM CST up reply recommended Unrec 1
by Where Triples Go to Die on Feb 3, 2009 12:40 PM CST up reply actions
i think it's probably Q or Alexei if we're talking position players.
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
AJ is more dispensable because his skills are eroding.
Even if he plays an entire season, he’s a 1-1.5 WAR player.
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
Don't forget Mr. Intangible.
Until someone comes in and handles the pitching staff well and becomes Team A-Hole (other than Ozzie) and sucks up negative feedback, AJ’s my guy.
I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT
Armstrong, et. al. would've had his arm knocked off at the plate in the playoff game.
And no one spikes the ball out of anger like AJ. I’m serious – he brings the ’tude. Hard to replace that with a rookie.
I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT
Defensively better?
Owens CF
Q! LF
Dye RF
or
BA CF
Q! RF
Abreu LF
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
The latter.
BA’s a better CF. Dye/Q/Abreu are a wash, though Bobby and Q have better arms.
I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT
Wrong, try again
Owens (11) > Anderson (3) (Net of 8 plays at CF) and
Abreu (-52) > Dye (-72) at RF (from 2006 to 2008, a net of 20 plays)
Total OF Improvement = +28 plays better
yea Brian Anderson is a better fielder than Jerry Owens
larry has that system down to a science. Especially with the way the economy is….big wigs like larry coming in dressed in their mink coats and 24k gold cigarrete holders with pockets lined with coke make for a large draw during shift changes.
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Jerry Owens played a total of 18 innings in Centerfield last year
larry has that system down to a science. Especially with the way the economy is….big wigs like larry coming in dressed in their mink coats and 24k gold cigarrete holders with pockets lined with coke make for a large draw during shift changes.
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Not to mention the difference in arm strength between the two..
larry has that system down to a science. Especially with the way the economy is….big wigs like larry coming in dressed in their mink coats and 24k gold cigarrete holders with pockets lined with coke make for a large draw during shift changes.
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
let's try again:
In 726.6 Innings (from 2007-2008), J.O. was 11 plays above avg. at center
Anderson, in 471.3 innings during the same span was 2 plays above avg.
Arm strength is irrelevant if you can’t make plays with it.
Small. Sample. Size.
I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT
You sound like me
when I explain our budget to my wife.
I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT
OCab question
It was mentioned by Fox sports (not a great baseball source) but whatever, that the Dodgers could just wait until June to sign him to avoid giving up a draft pick. If it gets to May, wouldn’t the White Sox have to consider offering him their 2B job? He’s suggested he’s willing to play at 2B, he had a solid year, it seems better then losing him for nothing.
by Grinder in Training on Feb 3, 2009 11:56 AM CST reply actions
The Chemistry Between Us, maybe, is an issue.
Death Match between him and JD/Ozzie?
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by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT
Question
If he decides to move to 2B and is signed on a one-year deal by someone other than the Sox (Oakland maybe)…puts on similar stats to this year, is he still a Type A next year? Stat wise, I think he would be towards the top of the 2B tier…but I am not sure how you would compare him from prior years.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Feb 3, 2009 12:03 PM CST up reply actions
hmm i think you would still take the stats
as if he was still playing shortstop because hes played a majority of his abs there in the last three years.
larry has that system down to a science. Especially with the way the economy is….big wigs like larry coming in dressed in their mink coats and 24k gold cigarrete holders with pockets lined with coke make for a large draw during shift changes.
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
booom
larry has that system down to a science. Especially with the way the economy is….big wigs like larry coming in dressed in their mink coats and 24k gold cigarrete holders with pockets lined with coke make for a large draw during shift changes.
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Ah, thank you sir.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Feb 3, 2009 12:19 PM CST up reply actions
Mental note
I posted this entry to gauge your opinions, which I suspected would differ from my own.
I’ll write a post on it later — a real post — on why I think Chris Getz is the most important of the 3 to the Sox success.
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exactly
but it has more to do with my confidence that Jerry Owens does indeed suck
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wait. stop the presses.
jerry owens sucks? you’re sure about this. i mean, i know you’re a big boy and all. but are you sure you want to write a post, and put it on the front page of this site for all to see, where you argue that jerry owens sucks? i dunno. the last time you decided to take a controversial position that we all knew was batshit stupid and post if for all the world to see, you at least used a different name.
Is it because Getz' potential failure
means a large drop-off from last year’s production, and the other 2 positions could have Steve Hawking playing and be on par with last year’s performance?
That’d be my guess. You Anglophile, you.
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by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT
At least. A healthy Q! = 50 HRs
"No one is sure what Colon has left in his 5-foot-11-inch, 250-plus-pound body." - Chicago Tribune 1/15/09
We're in a recession/depression.
I bet MLB has “heavy” balls delivered this year. They will fly less far. HR’s will be down in an austerity push by owners. The players will be instructed to never throw foul balls to fans in the stands.
And bats will be shaped like 1899 bats so as to avoid splintering. Q will lead the league (if healthy) with 28.
;)
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by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT
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