Dayan Viciedo Impresses Alexei, Scout

is alexei teaching dayan the virtue of patience?

by onlysoxfaninboston on Feb 8, 2009 8:46 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Hoytsstash would think everybody from Cuba has patience...

but then again….

"wow, yeah. cubs ST should be awesome. have a great time."
-by Larry on Jan. 9, 2009 3:09 PM PST

by Hoytsstash on Feb 8, 2009 9:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

And pride

so much pride.

I don't need to look at fancy stats

to see if a guy is good or not. You might have to.

by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 30, 2008 4:16 PM CST

by omnipotent grab on Feb 8, 2009 10:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Feb. 25th needs to come sooner.

My president is white.

by JoeCoolMan24 on Feb 8, 2009 11:33 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

hey at least we have feb. 14th to look forward to.

I don't need to look at fancy stats

to see if a guy is good or not. You might have to.

by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 30, 2008 4:16 PM CST

by omnipotent grab on Feb 8, 2009 11:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

leave WU's wife out of this

Sox P&Cs report on the 15th anyway

;)

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Feb 9, 2009 12:03 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

and you run a white sox blog?

our schtick is old

by larry on Feb 9, 2009 9:07 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Could've sworn it was the 14th, sir.

What have you done with Cheat, Mr. Michaels?

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Feb 9, 2009 9:25 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

report on saturday, first workout on sunday

but now the white sox site says sunday. maybe they changed it out of love.

our schtick is old

by larry on Feb 9, 2009 9:26 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

OK - I just read it in this morning's Tribune-owned Orlando Sentinel

that it was still the 14th. Damn Cubs ownership, trying to fracture our solidarnosc.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Feb 9, 2009 9:33 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

PS Nice sig.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Feb 9, 2009 10:29 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

you mean "Pitchers and AJ", right?

"A good cigar is like a beautiful chick with a great body who also knows the American League box scores. "
Klinger

by Chiburb on Feb 9, 2009 10:38 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I am looking forward with a strange fascination

to the Unveiling of The Marquez.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Feb 9, 2009 10:59 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Sounds promising to me...

I hope this helps out Dayan in his transition

by i_like_turtles on Feb 8, 2009 11:51 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

about Alexi and Dayan (it’s what we do here), but they truly are great stories. Makes it easy to cheer for those guys. I have two young kids who are fans, and they always remind me how the personalities, the stories, a big smile, some enthusiasm, etc. make a difference to the young fans. We all like to get buried in the numbers (that’s fun too in its own sick way), but it sure is fun to replay that Alexi grand slam too.

by palehose67 on Feb 9, 2009 11:51 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

I agree with this mate

I don’t know about the fat kid, but Alexei was fun to watch last season. and if you can’t get someone better why not have someone who puts a smile on your face.

anytime you like sunshine

by hoodlight on Feb 9, 2009 12:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

He's not fat.

He’s a tank.

If we aren't careful, the leanness we now feel will be the starvation of those we serve.

by Chi 'Till I Die on Feb 9, 2009 2:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

He's an atom bomb

White Sox: Trying to roll a hard six.

by vince_ on Feb 9, 2009 3:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Someone may have posted, but 2009 PECOTA is out ...

Sox projected for 74-88, last in the AL Central (3rd worst in the AL).

Ah well, it’s just Nate Silver. It’s not like he’s ever right about anything.

by The Actual El Guapo on Feb 9, 2009 12:03 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

don't pin it on nate.

it’s davenport now.

our schtick is old

by larry on Feb 9, 2009 12:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

by The Actual El Guapo on Feb 9, 2009 12:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

image big enough?

our schtick is old

by larry on Feb 9, 2009 12:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

You win Wimbelton and the U.S. Open in back-to-back years then retire to do statistical modeling, you get a big picture.

by The Actual El Guapo on Feb 9, 2009 12:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

i hope your material gets better.

because your comeback is shit so far.

our schtick is old

by larry on Feb 9, 2009 12:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

That implies that it was ever better than shit.

by The Actual El Guapo on Feb 9, 2009 12:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

Another steaming pile from our contributing associate editors. You’ve set the bar fairly high for yourself, TAEG. Either come in as you left (or be more entertaining – perish the thought!) or I personally will pull a Chief to your Randall P. McMurphy and eliminate the breath from you with a Sox pillow.

Cheat is a rock. Cheat is an island.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Feb 9, 2009 12:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I always thought my contributions to the site were more consistent with this character.

by The Actual El Guapo on Feb 9, 2009 12:41 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs

All is well!

Yes, I agree – a bitter loathing combined with repressed sexual tension. That describes TAEG to a “t”.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Feb 9, 2009 12:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

maybe one of the scariest characters ever in a movie.

Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.

by colintj on Feb 9, 2009 12:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

AFI's got her as the 5th worst movie villain of all time.

Punto is #3.

by The Actual El Guapo on Feb 9, 2009 12:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Crawling from the wreckage...

Keep it going.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Feb 9, 2009 12:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Someone get me a sledgehammer and a bunch of melons.

by The Actual El Guapo on Feb 9, 2009 12:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Look down the thread for your melons.

You’ll have to supply the hammer.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Feb 9, 2009 12:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

so then who's martini?

I think Bull Durham was overrated.

by U-God on Feb 9, 2009 12:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Furby.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Feb 9, 2009 12:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

so i guess in this one you're the guy on the left?

I think Bull Durham was overrated.

by U-God on Feb 9, 2009 12:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I prefer Billy Bibbitt.

Great hair. Gets action, then dies. Just like in Catholicism.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Feb 9, 2009 12:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

he's too young to be you

I think Bull Durham was overrated.

by U-God on Feb 9, 2009 12:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

If you break it in half you don't get two nickels, YOU GET SHIT !

"wow, yeah. cubs ST should be awesome. have a great time."
-by Larry on Jan. 9, 2009 3:09 PM PST

by Hoytsstash on Feb 9, 2009 1:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

where is Wimbleton?

anytime you like sunshine

by hoodlight on Feb 9, 2009 12:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Near Lonton.

by The Actual El Guapo on Feb 9, 2009 12:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

haha

anytime you like sunshine

by hoodlight on Feb 9, 2009 12:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Yuck

I used to ballboy for the Virginia Slims/Ameritech Cup at the UIC Pavilion when a kid. Keep in mind this was back when she was an even bigger girl…yikes.
That said, she was cool about autographs, to anyone who actually wanted one.

by Crede's Crew on Feb 9, 2009 12:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

let's a have good looking tennis player

anytime you like sunshine

by hoodlight on Feb 9, 2009 12:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Nice, one of my faves

along w/ Golovin, Hantuchova, Sharapova, and Dementiva

by Crede's Crew on Feb 9, 2009 12:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I like jankovic

she’s not that good looking, but I bet she’s a fantastic shag.

anytime you like sunshine

by hoodlight on Feb 9, 2009 12:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Prob true, and she does have a great body

If you couldn’t tell from my list, I’m a blonde man.

My new girl is a brunette though, go figure

by Crede's Crew on Feb 9, 2009 12:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

You can paint whatever color onto that latex, CC.

Don’t bother me none.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Feb 9, 2009 12:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I don't think we will do that well next season

anytime you like sunshine

by hoodlight on Feb 9, 2009 12:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Mate? Surely you jest!

by Crede's Crew on Feb 9, 2009 12:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I missed an 'either' from the end of that statement

I was gonna say that the forecasting code I had written had them pegged for 73 wins but nobody would have believed me. It’s a transitional phase, I don’t think we will be competing for the division this season.

anytime you like sunshine

by hoodlight on Feb 9, 2009 12:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Interesting

Maybe I’m too optimistic, but I just don’t see our competition lighting the world on fire either. KC is KC, Detroit has no pitching and for all their accolades (on this site), I am not impressed by Cleveland’s Starting pitching or lineup. I think it comes down to us and MN once again. Should be interesting.

by Crede's Crew on Feb 9, 2009 12:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

i saw this before but thought there was some adjusting that needed to be done.

still could be but, shit, this is an atrocious projection for jerry.

.210/.270/.260.

and, for those who care, egbert is the pecota fav for best 5th starter.

our schtick is old

by larry on Feb 9, 2009 12:32 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

ick

I think Bull Durham was overrated.

by U-God on Feb 9, 2009 12:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Hey, BTW, nice Purdue butt-kicking this weekend.

Thanks a lot.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Feb 9, 2009 12:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

we can't beat wisconsin on the road

but can sweep a season series from you guys. makes no sense. i’m just happy we’re gonna be in the tournament this year

I think Bull Durham was overrated.

by U-God on Feb 9, 2009 12:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I saw that coming

Kohl Center has been a house of horrors for you guys, as I’m sure you know

by Crede's Crew on Feb 9, 2009 12:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

And we swept UW. Go figure.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Feb 9, 2009 12:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

MSU probably still wins the conference though

unless we take em down here

I think Bull Durham was overrated.

by U-God on Feb 9, 2009 12:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

i'd take .240/.300/.420 from BA that's fo sho.

Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.

by colintj on Feb 9, 2009 12:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

LOL

that has to be one of the worst projections ever. This confirms that JO is a FRINGE MINOR LEAGUER AT BEST.

Seriously, if this guy couldn’t run a 4.4 40 he’d be washing cars like 5 years ago.

by madvillian on Feb 9, 2009 1:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I think we're like 6 wins better than that.

Let’s say 2 more at the plate and another 4 pitching.

Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.

by colintj on Feb 9, 2009 12:33 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

What air did you pick those numbers out of, c?

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Feb 9, 2009 12:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

rarefied

our schtick is old

by larry on Feb 9, 2009 12:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

The same air that colin's interviews disappear into?

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Feb 9, 2009 12:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

undoubtedly.

Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.

by colintj on Feb 9, 2009 1:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

i have been keeping a spreadsheet, remembah?

and i’ve been looking at fangraphs. Kenny has maybe figured this pitching stuff out. And PECOTA seems to keep blowing Sox projections. I think we’re a .500 team atm.

Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.

by colintj on Feb 9, 2009 1:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Well I definitely don't buy 74.

The important point is the leader has 84. Its a shit division anyone can win. Oh and what a surprise Buerhle will suck again. And did they move the fences back at the Cell? I think they will exhibit a bit more power then projected….

"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."

by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."

by Tdogg on Feb 9, 2009 1:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

PECOTA keeps picking against our pitchers

and it hasn’t won in a while.

Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.

by colintj on Feb 9, 2009 1:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

You forgot.

When it comes to PECOTA the Sox have the 3rd most heart at overachieving.

"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."

by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."

by Tdogg on Feb 9, 2009 1:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Grindosity. Is there anything it can't do?

Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.

by colintj on Feb 9, 2009 1:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

PECOTA

Can’t predict being “Chicago Tough”.

So, if I am reading the two options correctly . . .
we can either a) keep dye or b) trade dye . . . is that you Phil Rogers?

by jc2313 on Dec 11, 2008 4:53 PM CST up reply recommended Unrec 1

by Where Triples Go to Die on Feb 9, 2009 3:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Or Cuban Pride

Replacing "Chicago Tough" with "Cuban Pride"

by Brush Back on Feb 9, 2009 4:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

HAH!

Although, I believe most Cubans who floated here on a beach ball would be considered “Chicago Tough” no?

So, if I am reading the two options correctly . . .
we can either a) keep dye or b) trade dye . . . is that you Phil Rogers?

by jc2313 on Dec 11, 2008 4:53 PM CST up reply recommended Unrec 1

by Where Triples Go to Die on Feb 10, 2009 8:35 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

PECOTA vs. White Sox, round 07

Is that recent enough?

by coffeepac on Feb 9, 2009 6:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Sox starters were worth 16 WAR in '07

Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.

by colintj on Feb 9, 2009 6:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

the Sox haven't had below average starting pitching since '02

they had merely average in ’04. so check there.

Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.

by colintj on Feb 9, 2009 6:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

If the Sox continue to add Cuban players

at what point does Brooks Boyer invite Castro to come throw out a first pitch?

I understand El Presidente is a big baseball fan.

"No one is sure what Colon has left in his 5-foot-11-inch, 250-plus-pound body." - Chicago Tribune 1/15/09

by tailgater on Feb 9, 2009 12:43 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Raul likes soccer.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Feb 9, 2009 12:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

el presidente?

no one called him that. he prefers el comandante.

our schtick is old

by larry on Feb 9, 2009 12:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

larry knows his Reds.

Call him John Reed.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Feb 9, 2009 12:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Si, Comandante

Apparently it’s also his military rank.

I believe Raul is officially “Acting President” until Fidel checks out.

"No one is sure what Colon has left in his 5-foot-11-inch, 250-plus-pound body." - Chicago Tribune 1/15/09

by tailgater on Feb 9, 2009 1:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

no, he was elected president last year.

our schtick is old

by larry on Feb 9, 2009 1:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Let me guess...by a landslide?

"No one is sure what Colon has left in his 5-foot-11-inch, 250-plus-pound body." - Chicago Tribune 1/15/09

by tailgater on Feb 9, 2009 1:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

El Presidente=Dennis Martinez

In 1991 he pitched the 13th Perfect Game in MLB history

by oahu420 on Feb 9, 2009 1:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

is he still alive?

anytime you like sunshine

by hoodlight on Feb 9, 2009 12:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

like there weren't already enough out of work middle infielders

adam kennedy released by cards.

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/stories.nsf/cardinals/story/32EA0199DADBAD4E86257558006575D7?OpenDocument

our schtick is old

by larry on Feb 9, 2009 12:44 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Damn Stimulus Package can't come fast enough

All I got to say is it is a good thing Juan Uribe swallowed his pride and accepted that Minor League deal from the Giants.

We got Kenny – flush out of nickels and watching the DOW every other minute. Turning into Randolph and Mortimer Duke….I can’t take this sh*t anymore. I got a new philosphy I am going to pass on to everyone, because I care. I am not going to buy anything during this time of need, unless I have a coupon.

I would recommend to Scott Boras that he start printing some coupons for his clients…maybe a buy one get one free, or a 10 for 10….something to get these FA’s off the street!

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Feb 9, 2009 1:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

no way

Kenny is Eddie Murphy in that scenario.

when moneyball came out he was fresh off the street, but now…

by e-gus on Feb 9, 2009 11:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

SHOCKING NEWS: AROD ADMITS HE USED STEROIDS!!!

http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=515992

our schtick is old

by larry on Feb 9, 2009 1:38 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

our schtick is old

by larry on Feb 9, 2009 1:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

larry never has a drink with one of his patrons.

Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.

by colintj on Feb 9, 2009 1:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I guess he called the union, eh?

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Feb 9, 2009 1:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

there was no other way out.

i gotta say, it was a pretty chickenshit tactic to ambush a guy with something like this while he’s working out at the gym. i mean, duh, of course he didn’t know what to say and gave you a silly answer. if you were legitimately interested in getting an actual response to the substance of your question you do the fucking professional thing and call him up, tell him/show him what you have, and ask him to respond, whether that be right then or at a later time.

our schtick is old

by larry on Feb 9, 2009 1:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

The reporter said she gave him 2 days to respond after the "ambush",

and he didn’t. If that is the case, 2 days seems like enough time to have tracked Boras down.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Feb 9, 2009 2:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

you don't ambush, period.

it was chickenshit. this isn’t TMZ or something. this is SI, a supposedly reputable news organization. flying down to miami and walking in unannounced on a guy doing his workout is a stunt, plain and simple.

our schtick is old

by larry on Feb 9, 2009 2:03 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs

Bad form, perhaps, but he had 2 days in which to respond

and chose not to.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Feb 9, 2009 2:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Boras said he was out of the country

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Feb 9, 2009 2:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, he was in the Himalayas, mountain-climbing. Sure.

I’m sure if his biggest client needed to get in touch with him it could’ve been done.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Feb 9, 2009 2:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

have to make a decision if you want to pre-empt/shape the coverage or respond to it.

also, you don’t necessarily know all of what you’re responding to until it comes out. debatable how you want to play it but i don’t think it was a bad idea to let the story get out, give it a news cycle to see how it plays, and then go to a “friendly” – or at least outside – reporter and then respond.

our schtick is old

by larry on Feb 9, 2009 2:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

my tongue was in cheek

But, you probably are right…he looks like a mountain climber.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Feb 9, 2009 2:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

not bullshit, chickenshit

you don’t pull that ambushing shit at all…..not cool…..hey he’s sorry to the fans in texas though….but he doesn’t know what he was on….what is this shit?

takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm

by furby2056 on Feb 9, 2009 2:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

i don't really care about whether he responded or not.

she, and others, started crucifying him for saying “talk to the union” and all these other quotes from when she ambushed him. wtf did they think he was going say then? between reps on the bench, he was going to spill the whole story?

our schtick is old

by larry on Feb 9, 2009 2:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

She didn't report any response for 2 days, right?

If that’s his response, what else is she gonna quote? An ambush would’ve been the lack of opportunity to respond. Who knew who else had the story? Do you think a tabloid would’ve waited? I’m no big fan of SI but I don’t think it was shoddy or unprofessional.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Feb 9, 2009 2:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

i really don't give a shit anymore now that i think about it....fuck a-rod...

i don’t care if he thought he was under pressure….grow a pair and step the fuck up then…like Q! <3

takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm

by furby2056 on Feb 9, 2009 2:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

oh, come on. the whole point of going down there was to put arod in an uncomfortable position and crucify him for it.

fucking joke.

our schtick is old

by larry on Feb 9, 2009 2:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Why was it uncomfortable? Because he lied?

Boo-effin’ hoo.

PS larry’s lawyer background comes in handy re: discussing the law:

http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2009/02/09/legal-trouble-could-be-in-store-for-the-a-rod-leakers/

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Feb 9, 2009 2:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

again, fuck him....he lied his ass off in that interview in 2007

shit caught up to him and he fucked himself

takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm

by furby2056 on Feb 9, 2009 2:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

do you expect someone to walk into your gym and start grilling you about a steroid test?

anyone would be uncomfortable. the whole fucking point of arriving unannounced.

our schtick is old

by larry on Feb 9, 2009 2:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

i agree that part is bullshit lare....

but he knew it was going to happen at one point or another….be prepared….or just get it taken care of and say something so you don’t get ambushed

takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm

by furby2056 on Feb 9, 2009 2:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

why did he "know" that.

and i don’t care how prepared you are – i’m not going to be able to recite my argument if the judge decides to walk into the men’s room of graham elliot restaurant while i’m pissing and asks to hear it.

our schtick is old

by larry on Feb 9, 2009 2:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

he knew it cuz he fucking took the performance enhancing drugs...

that shit is going to come back to you eventually if a test comes out like this

takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm

by furby2056 on Feb 9, 2009 2:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

He lied, and thus was uncomfortable in his comeback

to a question, “Did you lie? The tests say you did.” He should be uncomfortable. I bet you castigate the charade that is the process of “interviewing” these days. So you have someone caught in a lie and you want him to have his whole team (read: defense) assembled before he can be asked to respond? They should have drinks first? Yeah, that will bring out candor and honesty.

Fer Chrissakes.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Feb 9, 2009 2:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

it's a stunt. it's chickenshit. if you want information, you don't do it in this way. that wasn't what she wanted. the gotcha game that the media loves to play with baseball and steroids is silly.

and you’re right. it probably wouldn’t bring out candor and honestly. but the point is that ambushing him while he’s working out isn’t going to either. it’s a stunt.

our schtick is old

by larry on Feb 9, 2009 2:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

so is agreeing to an interview with katie couric

and then blatently lying to her.

i like the stunt. a-rod had it coming. so does every steroid user.

its like if person x shoots someone in the head, and gets away for a few years. would you call me an asshole if i asked him why he shot someone at a family gathering or a movie? no, you’d say “why the hell did he shoot someone to begin with”

by hugh on Feb 9, 2009 2:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

i'm aware that people like the stunt. i do live in this world and watch the silliness of the media and assume that there must be people like you who enjoy it.

our schtick is old

by larry on Feb 9, 2009 2:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Do you enjoy watching someone talking and

having to tell yourself that if it’s in the media it’s probably crap? Would it be refreshing to you to have someone be honest just because it’s the right thing to do?

You meet terrorists where they live and adopt their tactics. (And, yes, I called a Yankee a terrorist.)

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Feb 9, 2009 2:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

the yankees are terrorists

Terrorist: a radical who employs terror as a political weapon; usually organizes with other terrorists in small cells;

by hugh on Feb 9, 2009 3:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

of course i enjoy it. it's a game. no one is completely honest. the fun is finding the truth.

our schtick is old

by larry on Feb 9, 2009 3:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I don't have the energy to wade through it.

I also have a kid to teach to not believe anything at face value, right? THAT’s comforting.

“Trust no one.” “Gott ist tot.” Fer Chrissakes.

What about " change we all can believe in"? Huh?

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Feb 9, 2009 3:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

what, is this something new?

and change hit reality right around january 20. like anyone with a brain knew it would.

our schtick is old

by larry on Feb 9, 2009 3:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

You shall believe larry...at about

7pm Central time – all of our problems will be answered.

Checks will be mailed next week!

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Feb 9, 2009 3:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

You are a disciple of Nietzche.

Begone!

(I don’t bame you – it’s your training. All law degrees are signed by Beelzebub.)

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Feb 9, 2009 3:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

of course it's my training.

lawyers long ago figured out that ambush doesn’t ferret out the truth adequately. there’s a reason that sort of thing was abolished years ago.

our schtick is old

by larry on Feb 9, 2009 3:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

come on larry

A Rod is being a pussy about this.

You really think shes been stalking him? She tried to break into his house? He would lash out at whoever it was that let the cat out of the bag, it just happens to be her.

If it was an ambush, she would have shown up at the gym with a tv crew.

Im not surprised a bit. The only thing that i find hard to believe is that Canseco didnt out him in ‘juiced’ with the rest of the Rangers. The shocker is that he kept it from Jose in the locker room. I suppose he couldve greased Canseco to keep his name out of the book, but still.

Most of us knew these guys were on the sauce, the outrage of the media now is a joke. It was fairly obvious back then, MLB was slow to react because the juice essentially saves the sport after the 94 strike. Its all b.s., I liked baseball when I knew Sosa and McGwire were playing dueling-vats-of testosterone, and I like the cleaner version we see now with homeruns down significantly.

I dont believe that was the only time A Rod juiced, he might be on to some undetectable shit now that nobody has even heard of yet, it doesnt matter, Im still going to the cell in this year to see if Danks or whoever can strike his lying ass out.

by e-gus on Feb 9, 2009 11:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

has she been stalking him?

in the way a journalist who is obsessed with bringing down a player, yes. read. the lady has had it in for arod for a long time.

http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/shysterball/article/selena-and-a-rod/

our schtick is old

by larry on Feb 10, 2009 9:43 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

12/7/07 is a long time?

I agree it is disingenuous for her to criticize him and not disclose she has a book coming out in May. It does not lessen the disgust I feel for him and his lying/cheating ways or mitigate his bad behavior. It does mean that her hands are also dirty.

As you said yesterday, larry, in so many words, no one is above reproach. What a cesspool this whole story is.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Feb 10, 2009 10:29 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

didn't realize i needed to summarize an exhaustive history.

kind of a waste of my time.

our schtick is old

by larry on Feb 10, 2009 11:24 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

If you offer a reference point as

the focus of the contention that it is “long-standing” then make it meaningful. Kind of a waste of my time to click on the link unless it fully corroborates your point.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Feb 10, 2009 11:38 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

the post wasn't for you. fuck off.

our schtick is old

by larry on Feb 10, 2009 11:43 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Always a pleasure.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Feb 10, 2009 11:54 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

her story is

she was assigned to do a profile of him when he had the whole madonna/ex-wife thing going on. Tabloid journalism for sure, but then she uncovered an actual story.

anyway, lets bury the hatchet on this hatchet job because I was tired of this story before it broke. I just couldnt believe you were defending an obvious scumbag(temporarily forgetting your profession).

by e-gus on Feb 10, 2009 12:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

i'm not defending rodriguez. i don't care really care what he did or when he did it.

i think these tactics by the media are silly.

our schtick is old

by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

yes, larry

how DARE you defend an obvious scumbag, you’re just as silly as the media

;-)

by onlysoxfaninboston on Feb 10, 2009 1:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

hugh set me straight when he compared using steroids to murder.

i’ve seen the light.

our schtick is old

by larry on Feb 10, 2009 1:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

i'm always paranoid now when i start my car

by onlysoxfaninboston on Feb 10, 2009 1:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Get out of larry's conversation, OSFIB.

Oh, wait, you agreed with him…Carry on.

the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST

by winningugly on Feb 10, 2009 2:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

lol

by e-gus on Feb 10, 2009 10:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Ah, hugh, the kids today...

It’s all in the delivery, not about the end-game being right or wrong.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Feb 9, 2009 2:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

That's high-dollar larry

We are in a recession and your eating at GE. Hopefully you just asked to use the john and left.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Feb 9, 2009 2:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I don't believe larry ever asks.

He just whips it out and lets it fly.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Feb 9, 2009 2:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

That is a great way to live

He kind of reminds me of Kane – just walking the earth and doing whatever the F’ he pleases…I like that in larry.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Feb 9, 2009 3:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I'd be interested in Jim's take as a reporter.

Soxmachine, Soxmachine, come out and playyyyyyy…

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Feb 9, 2009 2:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

yeah Jim's expertise would be nice.

otoh, it’s yet another steroid-fueled shitfest. if this wasn’t SSS, i’d have rolled my eyes at the back-and-forth here. since it is, i want to get my hands dirty.

Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.

by colintj on Feb 9, 2009 3:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

you know what else would be nice

a certain chris getz interview….haha

takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm

by furby2056 on Feb 9, 2009 3:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

you gotta sell copies, baby.

and you don’t sell the steak – you sell the sizzle.

any journalist is going to want the big story and get the big attention. and if you have to aid and abet the illegal disclosure of sealed evidence and then ambush the guy who is the subject of it – go for it. you’d expect nothing less from your reporters.

our schtick is old

by larry on Feb 9, 2009 4:45 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs

Plenty of steak here.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Feb 9, 2009 6:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

If this somehow translates to a black eye for the Yankees

I’m all for it.

If the test was suppose to be anonymous and now they are going to name names, indeed, that is horseshit.

Meanwhile ARoid will continue to collect a big check for playing baseball…so, in the end, who really gives a rat’s ass? I say legalize the whole shabang and let’s see who can be the first musclehead to hit 100 dingers.

"No one is sure what Colon has left in his 5-foot-11-inch, 250-plus-pound body." - Chicago Tribune 1/15/09

by tailgater on Feb 9, 2009 2:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

That is the one thing that is very disturbing as a Libertarian:

Personal freedoms are being usurped, and legal rights are being trampled. I hope the leakers go to jail and are treated as women, Bubba-style.

But I weep not for A-Roid. (I believe larry is an A-Roid fan, BTW. This would be disappointing.)

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Feb 9, 2009 2:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Agreed. Has there been any 'stink' made of these "anonymous" (my ass) tests being, well, not anonymous?

by CWSKeith on Feb 9, 2009 2:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

i read the old CBA. and i don't see anything about the survey tests being anonymous.

the results should have been destroyed, sure, but the agreement specifically contemplates an initial test of a player and then a follow-up test the next week or so, to ensure that a player didn’t test positive in the initial test because of an OTC drug. can’t match up tests if there isn’t something saying who the player who gave those tests is.

our schtick is old

by larry on Feb 9, 2009 2:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

That confuses me, then, as I've been under the impression that the test this test was supposed to be anonymous and just a measuring stick for future testing?

Or are you saying that yes, they were (in the technical sense) supposed to be anonymous, but that realistically it couldn’t remain anonymous because of the follow-up tests?

And, ultimately — am I mistaken in thinking some type of breach did occur here, that someone pretty much shat all over the agreement made in 2003 (about keeping these names hush-hush)?

by CWSKeith on Feb 9, 2009 11:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

when they said anonymous testing in 03

I said to myself ‘yeah right.’

I want the whole list, and the results.

Alex Rodriguez – dirty
Barry Bonds – dirty
Roger Clemens – dirty
Frank Thomas – clean
etc.

by e-gus on Feb 9, 2009 11:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

it was naive work.

both the union and mlb (and the testing centers) never thought anyone outside of those three basic groups would ever look at the tests. it’s not like the samples were marked “mark texeira” or something – the steps to identify were a little more complex than that. the union fucked around, challenging the results of the tests in an attempt to get it back under 5%. this has all been covered ad nauseum elsewhere so you can look that up. so instead of the tests being destroyed promptly, they were still sitting around when the government got around to getting their search warrant.

and, yes, as a practical matter you need to be able to identify the tests. things being kept anonymous and things being truly anonymous are not the same thing.

our schtick is old

by larry on Feb 10, 2009 9:13 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Right.

Before you know it, someone will suggest putting a cap on executive pay or socializing medical care.

Defend your freedoms!

"No one is sure what Colon has left in his 5-foot-11-inch, 250-plus-pound body." - Chicago Tribune 1/15/09

by tailgater on Feb 9, 2009 2:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

agreed, who cares anyways?

MLB didn’t do anything about the problem, I hold Selig liable.

So, if I am reading the two options correctly . . .
we can either a) keep dye or b) trade dye . . . is that you Phil Rogers?

by jc2313 on Dec 11, 2008 4:53 PM CST up reply recommended Unrec 1

by Where Triples Go to Die on Feb 9, 2009 3:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

i agree, this is yet another example of the MSM digging its own grave

I’m sad — and quite scary — to see legit news organizations like the Times, Tribune, etc get swamped under the inertia of the 21st century, but god damn if most of them aren’t right their along side their executioners helping to dig the grave.

This is a chickenshit story plain and simple. Anon sources from a supposedly anon drug testing program.

I’ve had the distasteful job of doing some PR with my organization. Most of the reporters I spoke to were fair and open to “our side of the story.” But a few bad apples ruin it for the rest. This sort of “perp walk” has no place in a serious news organization, which SI claims to be.

by madvillian on Feb 9, 2009 5:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

At least he didn't pull a Clemens

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Feb 9, 2009 2:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

He, by all accounts, is a "pleaser" and will do whatever he thinks people want.

Clemens could give a flying leap.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Feb 9, 2009 2:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Everyone just needs to give the guy a break

he is just trying to live up to Jeter.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Feb 9, 2009 2:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

It even made the WSJ:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123420868427964779.html

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Feb 9, 2009 2:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I saw Goody Rodriguez with the devil!

by The Actual El Guapo on Feb 9, 2009 7:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

ichiro returns to the mound; still could strike everyone out if he only wanted to be a pitcher - darrin jackson

http://www.npbtracker.com/2009/02/ichiro-working-out-as-a-pitcher/

our schtick is old

by larry on Feb 9, 2009 1:47 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

we should trade for him and make him our fifth starter

larry has that system down to a science. Especially with the way the economy is….big wigs like larry coming in dressed in their mink coats and 24k gold cigarrete holders with pockets lined with coke make for a large draw during shift changes.
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs

by Jbasic89 on Feb 9, 2009 2:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

that shit would sell.

Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.

by colintj on Feb 9, 2009 3:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

bASEBALL prospectus has us winning 74 and finishing in last place.

by dantesox on Feb 9, 2009 2:39 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

thanks for the newsflash.

did you hear that alex rodriguez tested positive for steroids?

our schtick is old

by larry on Feb 9, 2009 2:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

You missed his response in the Abreu Fanpost (or chose not to comment).

Like the Christopher Walken “Don” character in “True Romance”, right before he whacks Dennis Hopper, I say “I love this guy!”.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Feb 9, 2009 2:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

wrong guy.

our schtick is old

by larry on Feb 9, 2009 2:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Nah, it's the right guy.

He is wide-eyed and filled with wonder. Not the other lunatic.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Feb 9, 2009 2:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Well....it just came out today. Anyway, even though I have us around 78, 79,

it’s still depressing to see a reputable outfit picking us last. I can certainly see it, though.

by dantesox on Feb 9, 2009 3:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

cuz that's never happened before...

Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.

by colintj on Feb 9, 2009 3:11 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs

nope they love the White Sox all the time

"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."

by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."

by Tdogg on Feb 9, 2009 3:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Nessie still an urban legend

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Feb 9, 2009 4:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I hope A-Roid can get through this dark period of his career

Bwaaaa…haaa haaa!

"No one is sure what Colon has left in his 5-foot-11-inch, 250-plus-pound body." - Chicago Tribune 1/15/09

by tailgater on Feb 9, 2009 2:45 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

She is easy on the eyes.

Not on the pocketbook.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Feb 9, 2009 2:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

But her knees are fucked up.

My president is white.

by JoeCoolMan24 on Feb 9, 2009 2:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

She took it in the a$$

Steroids that is….well, wait…I think I got her confused with Clemens’ wife….Gdammit, sorry.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Feb 9, 2009 3:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I can't stop referring to this picture.

And she’s Greek! I dig the Mediterranean look.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Feb 9, 2009 3:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

a-roid... and all the NY times could come up with was A-Fraud?

Hilarious.

So, if I am reading the two options correctly . . .
we can either a) keep dye or b) trade dye . . . is that you Phil Rogers?

by jc2313 on Dec 11, 2008 4:53 PM CST up reply recommended Unrec 1

by Where Triples Go to Die on Feb 9, 2009 3:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

well the post ran with "A-Hole" today, which was a clever touch.

by madvillian on Feb 9, 2009 5:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I saw that when I got home from work...

A-hole is even better!!! Although, I couldn’t care less, now that I am convinced that everyone in the game was on some sort of PED.

So, if I am reading the two options correctly . . .
we can either a) keep dye or b) trade dye . . . is that you Phil Rogers?

by jc2313 on Dec 11, 2008 4:53 PM CST up reply recommended Unrec 1

by Where Triples Go to Die on Feb 10, 2009 8:14 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

What does this mean?

Does this mean he might have been on a whole bunch of illegal sh*t and he doesn’t know what he tested positive for?

“It was such a loosey-goosey era. I’m guilty for a lot of things. I’m guilty for being negligent, naive, not asking all the right questions,” Rodriguez said. “And to be quite honest, I don’t know exactly what substance I was guilty of using.”

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Feb 9, 2009 3:28 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

well, hopefully he's telling the truth, because if word gets out that he was on a controlled regimen a la clemens

then he’s not doing himself any favors by feigning ignorance.

by onlysoxfaninboston on Feb 9, 2009 3:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

no one takes a single steroid. sort of defeats the purpose to not be cycling.

and if he really hasn’t been using in five years or whatever, i’m not sure i’d remember the name methenolone either.

our schtick is old

by larry on Feb 9, 2009 3:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Good points

I just saw the quote and didn’t know how to read into it, or if I should read into it at all.

Also, looks like half of the Rangers in 2001-2004 were on roids…I am pretty sure Pudge made the 104.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Feb 9, 2009 3:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

that said, I will never be convinced that a world class athlete isn't obsessed with anything

and everything that goes into his body. He knew precisely what he was doing and thought he could get away with it. I hardly blame the guy for doing roids, and I respect him for not pulling a Palmeiro or Sosa, but enough of this “I didn’t know what I was doing, just took some stuff to try and help my game”.

by madvillian on Feb 9, 2009 5:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

i think he meant

“i didn’t know the exact name of the stuff”

Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.

by colintj on Feb 9, 2009 6:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

yeah. i don't think he's pretending he didn't knowingly take steroids.

our schtick is old

by larry on Feb 9, 2009 7:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

for the lawyers

is there anyway the yanks can back out of the contract? doubtful i think..

i wonder what marvin miller thinks about the mlbpa’s handling of this matter.

by onlysoxfaninboston on Feb 9, 2009 3:28 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Couldn't with Giambi? Or didn't bother to go down that path....

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Feb 9, 2009 3:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

if i were a yankee fan, i still want a-rod on my team.

unless a-rod poorly handles the pr here on out. the fans could put management in a situation where they have to trade a-rod and get less in returns. bring him here to the cell i say, haha…

by onlysoxfaninboston on Feb 9, 2009 3:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Yes, if the Yanks want to cast his shameful ass away

I will welcome him with open arms.

Oh God…ARod and Q! on the same team? (Shudder).

"No one is sure what Colon has left in his 5-foot-11-inch, 250-plus-pound body." - Chicago Tribune 1/15/09

by tailgater on Feb 9, 2009 3:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I consider myself to be a huge fan, very knowledgeable, i respect the older players.....so is it wrong....

That I don’t really care if he used steroids? Or anyone else for that matter? I really honestly don’t. If it came out that Magglio Ordonez or Harold Baines or Ron Kittle or Frank Thomas took steroids they would still be 4 of my favorite white sox ever. So if I wouldn’t judge them that hard then why would I judge Arod or Bonds or Sosa? Maybe it’s because I am sick of hearing about it… but I don’t care.

This steroid crap has supposedly been going on since the mid 80s when I was starting to become a big fan…… so either I can erase everything I remember about baseball or say “fuck it who cares”. I choose to do that. Jose Canseco, Mark McGwire, Alex Rodriguez, Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens will always be Hall of Famers in my eyes.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Feb 9, 2009 5:38 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

although i gotta admit

Arod just answered “i can’t believe ESPN still quotes this guy” talking about Canseco…… uh assclown everyone he has named has been outed. I think he carries pretty big credibility.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Feb 9, 2009 5:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

yeah but no one likes a snitch

especially one who snitched for the money. and he’s borderline HoF at best in my eyes

But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.

by U-God on Feb 9, 2009 5:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Why do players take steroids?

anytime you like sunshine

by hoodlight on Feb 9, 2009 5:45 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

to get stronger, to recover faster from injuries, to overcome fatigue, etc.

But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.

by U-God on Feb 9, 2009 5:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

to cheat then?

anytime you like sunshine

by hoodlight on Feb 9, 2009 5:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

to have an advantage yeah

and if the substance you use to gain the advantage isn’t legal in the sport, then yeah, to cheat

But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.

by U-God on Feb 9, 2009 5:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

what about HGH?

they are all on that now so I have read, difficult to detect.

anytime you like sunshine

by hoodlight on Feb 9, 2009 5:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

why gaylord perry throw a spitball?

I mean, cheating in baseball is as old as the game itself. I played on some high level American legion teams when I was 15-18, guys were always trying to get an edge, whether it was the 1st base coach stealing signs or leaving the mound a little “loose” just where the other guy liked to stride out.

It’s all somewhere along a spectrum, and it’s damn hard not to do when everyone else is.

by madvillian on Feb 9, 2009 5:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

quit legitimizing cheating yo

it’s wrong, taking steroids is just plain wrong

by onlysoxfaninboston on Feb 9, 2009 6:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

wtf is wrong? we are talking about a sport here

Here is a hypothetical for you:

if 25% of your peers in the workplace are taking a rather easy to obtain quasi-illegal pill that makes them more productive and likely to get promotions before you (even the less naturely talented)

Management, happy with the increased productivity, turns the othter way. The chances of being caught by law enforcement are extremely low, around 5%.

Would you take the pill?

by madvillian on Feb 9, 2009 6:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

ignore the "if" -- bad edit.

by madvillian on Feb 9, 2009 6:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

c'mon yo, did i need to add clearly ;-)

by onlysoxfaninboston on Feb 9, 2009 6:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

exactly my point

taking the easy “drugs are bad cheating is wrong” road is dumb. Christ, the smartest people in the world struggle with the ethics of way more clear cut situations. Yet some people want these guys hung up on a string.

GMAFB.

by madvillian on Feb 9, 2009 8:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

dude you know i was joking right?

by onlysoxfaninboston on Feb 9, 2009 8:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

my sarcasm detector is broken, has been since i turned 25.

by madvillian on Feb 9, 2009 8:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Does the pill shrink my balls?

White Sox: Trying to roll a hard six.

by vince_ on Feb 9, 2009 9:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

And it's not like baseball was doing much to deter the 'cheaters', anyways...

so when you see guys recovering faster/getting stronger by popping some pills without consequence (as far as suspensions), it’s tough to avoid getting in the action yourself. Seems to be a pretty basic prisoner’s dilemma…

by CWSKeith on Feb 9, 2009 5:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

IR class today?

by madvillian on Feb 9, 2009 5:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I think they take steroids to mask all the cocaine that would show up in a random test

anytime you like sunshine

by hoodlight on Feb 9, 2009 6:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

OK....but take a good look at the steroid list

the overwhelming majority of them sucked with or without the gas. If you can hit you can hit…. if you can’t, you can’t. Steroids isn’t going to change that. We could give Larry a Giambi like cycle and he still won’t hit it past the pitcher. I think it is way overblown.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Feb 9, 2009 6:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

but if it makes you recover from injuries faster

it gives you an unfair advantage over players who don’t do it, it’s not all about how far you can hit the ball. As we now know, a player with durability is a very valuable asset to a MLB team.

anytime you like sunshine

by hoodlight on Feb 9, 2009 6:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Giambi?

like Jeremy Giambi?

yeah, he wouldve made it to the big leagues without juice for sure.

oh, wait, no he wouldnt.

by e-gus on Feb 9, 2009 11:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

for the sex drive

by onlysoxfaninboston on Feb 9, 2009 6:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Beanies

I think that MLB should ban all players that have taken all forms of performance enhancing drugs from the HoF, including speed. Oh wait, that would be like 60% of the current HoF and 90% of active players.

Steve

by the_steve on Feb 9, 2009 6:58 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

This argument is tired for me.

Its not same thing.

"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."

by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."

by Tdogg on Feb 9, 2009 7:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

but he's the_steve

it even says it in his sig. and i always thought amphetamines were called greenies

But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.

by U-God on Feb 9, 2009 7:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Read "Ball Four". You are correct re: greenies. (Rose used 'em, too.)

A great commentary on the mind of a MLB player and what he’d do to get an edge. (Shorten his life by 5 years to get a guaranteed 20 wins/year.)

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Feb 9, 2009 7:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

read it multiple times and own it

that was my second different baseball book after Moneyball. Bouton was a funny bastard.

But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.

by U-God on Feb 9, 2009 7:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Man the NFL is lucky - they don't have this issue

Replacing "Chicago Tough" with "Cuban Pride"

by Brush Back on Feb 9, 2009 7:23 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Only the occasional out-of-the-closet retired guy

with a tell-all book.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Feb 9, 2009 7:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Hmm maybe their union handled it a little differently?

You make your own luck or good grace in terms of treatment from Congress.

"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."

by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."

by Tdogg on Feb 9, 2009 7:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

their union isn't (and hasn't been) as powerful.

it was more of a cram down from the owners. but them’s the breaks. instead of treating it as an issue that needed to be dealt with, the union treated it as a bargaining chip with the owners. it took baseball fifteen years longer to get testing of any kind? what a joke. and they’re paying for it now.

baseball certainly gets treated differently in the press when it comes to steroids. and this is one of the reasons. nfl attacked it in the 80s and, whatever you might say about their testing, at least they had it and could point to it. it’s more of a PR thing than anything. and baseball blew it.

our schtick is old

by larry on Feb 9, 2009 7:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

if only the nfl could sell me nfl.tv and mlb could sell me the illusion of a clean sport. sigh

by madvillian on Feb 9, 2009 8:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I totally agree it is all perception now.

I think the best thing I heard this weekend was at some point for the union everything became why should we do anything and they stopped thinking about what is best for their members.

"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."

by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."

by Tdogg on Feb 9, 2009 8:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

People were dying (Tooz, Alzado)

and coming clean (Steve Courson) so it was seen as more urgent in the NFL, perhaps. Shriveled testes and acne don’t compare to guys in their 30’s and 40’s dying.

What amazes me is the amount of NFL guys who die in their 40’s and 50’s even today. Seems like an NFL linebacker in his 40’s died every other week last year. Not sure if it’s from the drugs ingested or the brutal pounding their bodies take, but the mortality of an NFL’er is not to be envied or emulated.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Feb 10, 2009 7:49 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs