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Chris Getz: Community Projection

Looking back through the archives, we had started our community projections at this time last year. Seeing as I don't feel a need to add to the cacophony of A-Roid chatter, this seems like as good a time as any to start once again.

We started off with "our two young second baseman," Alexei Ramirez and Danny Richar, last year, so that's where we'll begin again today.

Chris Getz is up first. Getz has no power. He hit a total of 6 home runs over his first 1000 minor league at bats, but slugged 11 last season. But all 11 of his '08 homers came at the Knights' castle, which has 350 foot power alleys. Getz' '08 season ended abruptly in September when it was revealed that he had a broken wrist, an injury that is known to sap power.

Getz game isn't about power, obviously. He is a tough-to-strike-out singles hitter whose greatest assets are his ability to control the zone, put the ball in play and post a high OBP.

Will Getz' wrist be healed enough to allow him to play at the major league level? Will he get off to a fast enough start to get a majority of starts at 2B?

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If this is our lead into the new season

and it represents the most exciting new face, we are effed. EFFED!

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Feb 10, 2009 7:51 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

I pumped about Jeff Marquez!!!

I am most excited about “The Shocker”…

So, if I am reading the two options correctly . . .
we can either a) keep dye or b) trade dye . . . is that you Phil Rogers?

by jc2313 on Dec 11, 2008 4:53 PM CST up reply recommended Unrec 1

by Where Triples Go to Die on Feb 10, 2009 8:47 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I hope so,

we gave up swisher for him. I have confidence in Kenny, Coop, and the scouting staff identifying pitchers who they believe could have success here. I used to doubt them on it but once I saw Floyd throw a curveball I was sold, and Danks took a little longer to sell me but looks pretty darn good.

So, if I am reading the two options correctly . . .
we can either a) keep dye or b) trade dye . . . is that you Phil Rogers?

by jc2313 on Dec 11, 2008 4:53 PM CST up reply recommended Unrec 1

by Where Triples Go to Die on Feb 11, 2009 10:29 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Not to fear

Q! is hear.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Feb 10, 2009 10:09 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Hear? Is he listening to us?

Are you still Red Bulled-and-vodka’ed up?

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Feb 10, 2009 10:21 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Wow

I got caught up in the moment.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Feb 10, 2009 10:22 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Q! is like the Holy Trinity

A mystery that a normal human can understand. His quietest whisper can destroy herds of water buffalo just like his determined yell soothes baby mice to sleep.
(makes the sign of the Q!ross)

I was in the shit too!

by thecip on Feb 10, 2009 12:44 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

That for the lack

of ARod chatter. Perhaps we can keep this an ARod-free zone today. I’m fascinated by Getz. I basd my projections on 400 AB. Not much fun in doing this if you think he’s only going to get 100 AB!

by palehose67 on Feb 10, 2009 8:31 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

I wonder when Travis Hafner will be exposed...

So, if I am reading the two options correctly . . .
we can either a) keep dye or b) trade dye . . . is that you Phil Rogers?

by jc2313 on Dec 11, 2008 4:53 PM CST up reply recommended Unrec 1

by Where Triples Go to Die on Feb 10, 2009 8:42 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

When they sneak up on him at a gym..."Travis Hafner you've been pronked!"

"No one is sure what Colon has left in his 5-foot-11-inch, 250-plus-pound body." - Chicago Tribune 1/15/09

by tailgater on Feb 10, 2009 9:05 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

This is difficult

If he has a decent start, Ozzie will embrace him and play him everyday. If he blows, by June Ozzie will become frustrated and limit his playing time.

I’ll bet Chris Getz feels the weight of the world on his shoulders right now. Too bad there wasn’t a way for him to gain an edge…maybe a supplement he could get at his local GNC…that would assure that he has a solid start.

"No one is sure what Colon has left in his 5-foot-11-inch, 250-plus-pound body." - Chicago Tribune 1/15/09

by tailgater on Feb 10, 2009 9:09 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Wow....didn't realize Ray Durham

had a .380 OBP in 426 PA’s last season.

by stanchar on Feb 10, 2009 9:16 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

someone reads mlbtr.

will anyone of substance ever sign with the nationals? it’s kind of funny to hear all these players cry when the nationals are out there trying to splash cash on anyone and everyone. i guess money truly isn’t everything.

our schtick is old

by larry on Feb 10, 2009 9:45 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

looks like i did indeed speak too soon about jerry owens' projection

he’s up to .211/.272/.258. glad we got that ironed out.

our schtick is old

by larry on Feb 10, 2009 9:19 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

That projection seems a bit insane, doesn't it?

I mean, he was .267/324/312 in 356 ABs in 93 Games in the magical year of 2007. Is there any real reason to thing he’d get that much worse???

by Crede's Crew on Feb 10, 2009 9:23 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

players like jerry don't age well. especially after injury.

but i’d take the over. he’s not that bad.

our schtick is old

by larry on Feb 10, 2009 9:25 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Our projected lineup is like the kindergarten joke

“Why was 6 afraid of 7? Because 7 8 9.” BWAHAHAHA!

I am afraid of 7, 8, 9, and 1 if Owens, Fields, and Getz start.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Feb 10, 2009 9:23 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I think Getz puts up on OBP around .330 worst case scenario, which makes him passable at 2B

And Field sprobably puts up like 240/300/430, which is similarly passable. It’s not good production from either spot, probably slightly above replacement level, but it’s young players that cost nothing and should improve. I’d have no problems starting either guy.

Owens is another story. I can’t stand that fact that he’s on this team.

by madvillian on Feb 10, 2009 9:25 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with the Getz OBP (I said .340),

but his slg will awful. His OPS won’t make .700. He’d better be able to field his position.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Feb 10, 2009 9:31 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

If the kid gets on base at

.340 or .350, he’s good to go. Of course, then Ozzie will make him steal all the time, and he’ll get tossed out a bunch, but that’s what grinding is all about. He’ll get his uniform nice and dirty.

by palehose67 on Feb 10, 2009 10:18 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Nice. Rec'd. Possibly a new niclname.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Feb 10, 2009 10:22 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

You make a good point.

What’s the over/under on Getz head-first slides into first base in 2009?

by palehose67 on Feb 10, 2009 10:22 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

how else would he get to first base?

I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.

by thatshortkid on Feb 10, 2009 3:19 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

If Getz can have an OBP of .340

have an adequate glove and put the ball in play (not too many k’s) I am happy.

I think The Shocker might surprise us this year – and if he can bring up the position from the Uribe/Crede combo last year – that is another positive.

I don’t see Owens lasting in CF all year, and I think he will at least platoon with Anderson. Remember we had Swisher swoon (especially in the second half) – he provided more pop, but by the end of the season he was horrible.

SOOOOOOOOOO……my final analysis is that I am more worried about the starting pitching than I am about 3B, 2B and CF. Even though CF is a black hole….I have (ugh) confidence that Fields and Getz will be adequate.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Feb 10, 2009 10:20 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm actually growing quite interested in this team.

If Fields and/or Getz can establish themselves and Ramirez build on a promising rookie season, you add in Beckham, Flowers, and/or Viciedo to a lineup centered around Carlos Quentin, you’ve got something.

Especially when you consider that Williams will have a ton of money to spend next winter.

If all goes well, the Sox might be mediocre this year, but then very good for several years after that.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on Feb 10, 2009 10:42 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with that

The season is a success if the Sox manage to determine whom among their younger players is MLB-worthy and what holes they need to fill next offseason. Position-wise, it should be interesting — Fields is still an interesting player to me and if any of Beckham, Viciedo, and Flowers make a debut this season that will be a very good sign.

It’s unfortunate that the Sox don’t have any better prospects to throw into the last two rotation slots for tryouts.

by hitlesswonder on Feb 10, 2009 10:48 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

If Beckham or Flowers

makes a debut this year – that probably is a bad sign. They need to be in the minors this year.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Feb 10, 2009 10:50 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I was taking it to mean they excelled in the minors, which would be good.

Beckham, in particular, I think has a good chance to debut this season.

Flowers is pretty doubtful.

by hitlesswonder on Feb 10, 2009 10:59 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Beckham? Really? Hoytsstash may be mistaken, but to have these guys

making a major league debut without a full season in the minors? Facing Major League pitching everyday? Hard to believe. I will gladly eat these words, but I hope they don’t ruin these young kids by bringing them up during their first year removed from college. Exception Cuba.

"wow, yeah. cubs ST should be awesome. have a great time."
-by Larry on Jan. 9, 2009 3:09 PM PST

by Hoytsstash on Feb 10, 2009 3:42 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

beckham likely doesn't need a full season.

advanced hitting prospects don’t. extreme but familiar example is frank thomas. tulowitzki is a more recent one.

our schtick is old

by larry on Feb 10, 2009 3:49 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

and Beckham has already impressed with the lumber

link

When Gordon Beckham was a sophomore at the University of Georgia, he looked like he could get drafted but maybe not raise eyebrows. He hit .307 with an aluminum bat that year (2007), which would get a lot of shrugs because of aluminum’s reputation for potency and producing .400 hitters.

Then Beckham picked up a wood bat in the Cape Cod League in the summer of 2007. There was a transformation. Beckham says he matured as a player and that swinging with a wood bat also had something to do with a jump in his productivity.

“Your hands and your wrists are where all your power comes from. And when you swing with a heavier wood bat all summer, it is going to make your swing better,” says Beckham, a shortstop. "It also trains your body to do the right things. There is not wasted motion; there is no wasted energy. If you watch the major leaguers with a wood bat, they have a compact swing.

“You don’t try and do too much with the wood bat, and you learn that you have to square the ball up and focus on every at-bat.”

by e-gus on Feb 10, 2009 10:52 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

WOW

I don’t think I have ever seen you write anything positive about the sox. I thought you were SSH2005’s neglected stepbrother.

So, if I am reading the two options correctly . . .
we can either a) keep dye or b) trade dye . . . is that you Phil Rogers?

by jc2313 on Dec 11, 2008 4:53 PM CST up reply recommended Unrec 1

by Where Triples Go to Die on Feb 11, 2009 10:44 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

sox fanology 101

if you’re generally optimistic and positive about the team, you’re a “homer”. if you’re generally a pessimistic chicken little, you’re “being realistic” and a “true sox fan”.

geez, man. it’s in the textbook, first chapter.

I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.

by thatshortkid on Feb 11, 2009 12:04 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

There is a difference between being realistic

and being a DB about it… see: ssh2005

So, if I am reading the two options correctly . . .
we can either a) keep dye or b) trade dye . . . is that you Phil Rogers?

by jc2313 on Dec 11, 2008 4:53 PM CST up reply recommended Unrec 1

by Where Triples Go to Die on Feb 11, 2009 3:01 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Ah, a classic "Wiggles" joke...my kids love that one

"No one is sure what Colon has left in his 5-foot-11-inch, 250-plus-pound body." - Chicago Tribune 1/15/09

by tailgater on Feb 10, 2009 9:28 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

BP is right...the Sox are not a good team on paper right now

The lineup sucks and the #3 starter should be #5 but the Sox have no #4 and #5 starters.

It’s a shame they couldn’t trade Dye.

All that being said, crazy shit happens and if the Sox can somehow snag 3 breakout seasons from new guys without any vets falling off a cliff they could compete. I

by hitlesswonder on Feb 10, 2009 10:37 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I am not sure the lineup sucks

what has really changed from last year?

1) lost OC – so Getz is replacing OC’s bat. Slight dropoff in OPS and steals, but not a major drop off.

2) Lost Uribe/Crede – Fields is probably replacing. I think Fields could be about the same or better with the bat.

3. Lost Swisher in CF – replaced by Owens and/or Anderson. This could be a downgrade, not sure.

4. Dye, Konerko, Thome, AJ….? Do any of them fall off the cliff – does Konerko have a better year? health? Lots of questions, but I could see a similar combined year of all 4.

5. Alexei and Q! – flukes or the start of something special? I would hope for the latter.

So, in summary I don’t know that our lineup sucks – I could see it being better than last year. I agree on the starters though – that is my concern.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Feb 10, 2009 10:49 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

OK, maybe "sucks" is too strong

How’s this: the Sox are unlikely to have a good offense in 2009

It’s not impossible, but there are way too many question marks combined with players with limited ceilings for it to be likely.

Consider that it would be easy for the Sox everyday lineup to feature 4 players with an OPS of .700 or below: AJ, Getz, Owens, Fields.

by hitlesswonder on Feb 10, 2009 10:58 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I would agree that there are a ton

of question marks in the lineup, the field and in the rotation. One thing I can probably predict is an Ozzie meltdown at some point in the season – this team could make him go gray fast.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Feb 10, 2009 11:12 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Here we go with that crap again.

"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."

by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."

by Tdogg on Feb 10, 2009 1:00 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

So in your mind its easy for the four above players

or 3.5 if you really count Owens to put up the worst scenario?

"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."

by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."

by Tdogg on Feb 10, 2009 1:04 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

just give up now, t

you and me next season.

our schtick is old

by larry on Feb 10, 2009 1:06 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

lol....

"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."

by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."

by Tdogg on Feb 10, 2009 1:07 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes

I don’t know what PECOTA says is likely for each of those guys, but saying that the four of them will be around .700 isn’t like predicting a meteor will hit USCF. AJ was at .728 last season, Owens is Owens. Getz slugging will be low, and Fields I really don’t know about.

But forget about any single guy. I’m just saying in aggregate the lineup is much more likely to be bad than good.

All that being said, your post before that the division sucks is true. If you flip things around, having 3 guys solidly exceed my expectations probably makes them competitive. The Sox could challenge for the division this season, I just don’t think it’s likely with this team.

Of course, if they have a hot start Williams could/will make moves to bolster the roster before the trade deadline…

by hitlesswonder on Feb 10, 2009 3:03 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Jerry Owens fits the definition of a toxic asset to me

No one knows what he’s worth, but the consensus is it’s probably not a lot.

White Sox: Trying to roll a hard six.

by vince_ on Feb 10, 2009 1:21 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

I don't think it's that bleak

Colon could be a nice guy in the 4 spot and w/ #5, I don’t think it’s that far fetched to get AL League avg quality (for a 5th) at the 5 spot.

Also, w/ AJ, Q, Thome, Dye, PK, Alexei, I think saying the lineup sucks is a reach.

by Crede's Crew on Feb 10, 2009 10:42 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

I don' think it's a reach

Of the players you mention, Q and Dye are the only ones I’m confident will have above-average production for their position.

AJ is not a particularly good offensive player at this point. PK was awful last season. I like Thome and Alexei but in each case I can’t say with confidence they will be good last season — Thome is old and Alexei could have had a flukey year (cough…plate discipline…cough).

by hitlesswonder on Feb 10, 2009 10:51 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I find these projections very hard

For players I assume will only get limited time. I had to do all the math and shit, and I still messed things up. At least for Q-uperman it is easy to predict 85 Homeruns without having to think.

My president is white.

by JoeCoolMan24 on Feb 10, 2009 11:12 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

So, apparently the market didn't like the bank bailout plan

…outstanding.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Feb 10, 2009 11:24 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Big shock.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Feb 10, 2009 11:35 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

so you lot are bailing out the banks too?

isn’t it cool, there is one particular bank here that the British taxpayer has just sunk £38 billion into to stop it going under and the fuckers who run it still want to be paid their bonuses.

anytime you like sunshine

by hoodlight on Feb 10, 2009 1:04 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Hoytsstash doesn't think it helped that our Presidential Sox fan

looked like a deer in the headlights at yesterday’s press conference…..

"wow, yeah. cubs ST should be awesome. have a great time."
-by Larry on Jan. 9, 2009 3:09 PM PST

by Hoytsstash on Feb 10, 2009 3:45 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

there seem to be two views on that.

yours and the one that says he fillibustered the press.

our schtick is old

by larry on Feb 10, 2009 3:50 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

good point

"wow, yeah. cubs ST should be awesome. have a great time."
-by Larry on Jan. 9, 2009 3:09 PM PST

by Hoytsstash on Feb 10, 2009 3:56 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The press that asked everything but the important questions on the economy??

A-Rod Question?

Dead US Soldiers being snuck back into the states?

Iran?

Questions that should be asked at a different press conference.

The deer in headlights look was most definetly Bush….Obama looked like he knows something we don’t…which is the economy is f’d and the monopoly money that is being printed isn’t even -going to band-aid it up short term.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Feb 11, 2009 3:11 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Or

he has staked his reputation on this economic plan long before he took office, if it didn’t pass and he doesn’t get the public’s buyoff (which is waning) then it would be a huge failure on his first major agenda.

by jc2313 on Feb 11, 2009 8:45 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Absolutely

Well, it passed – that was step one. The Bi-partisan politics that he said he would like to try and do away with to a degree are still there. I am not sure if it is because these political in roads are much deeper than anticipated or because the Republicans are really that much against the economic recovery plan. The so called “Plan” is the other issue here – there doesn’t seem to be one. Seems to just throw money at the problem like the prior administration did last year and you see where that got us.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Feb 11, 2009 9:21 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Hard to argue

with any of that . . . $800-900 billion is an unfathomable amount of money and I just don’t trust government at any level to use the funds appropriately. Of course, living in Illinois with our great history and with Daley still in office, I guess I may be a tad cynical.

And a ‘tax break’ by giving everyone $500 sure isnt going to fix the problem. Great, retailers get a one-two month spike in sales then back to the real issues with the ecnonomy.

by jc2313 on Feb 11, 2009 9:29 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

You are a realist. Don't apologize.

the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST

by winningugly on Feb 11, 2009 10:16 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Well, there could be one positive

There is difference in what the deficit is used for. If it finances the purchase of infrastructure rather than tax cuts, at this point, I think that’s a reasonable use of money. In recession/depression, the government should be able to buy labor and some materials cheaply. So building/fixing things like buildings, rail, bridges, roads, water and sewage systems should be a good buy right now. And it will create jobs. It seems better than doing nothing.

Of course, mismanagement could sabotage that. But I don’t think government is more likely to screw than private industry (the current times don’t support the notion that private companies handle funds more appropriately IMO). Fingers crossed that it works out.

by hitlesswonder on Feb 11, 2009 12:26 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, fuck Iran, they're not important...

as well as the economic stimulus questions and financial package assessments….
If tripping over your words and being angry at the questions is “knowing something we don’t”, Hoytsstash could have pulled the wool over everybody’s eyes during his adolescence…I would have built a tree house to the sky…..

"wow, yeah. cubs ST should be awesome. have a great time."
-by Larry on Jan. 9, 2009 3:09 PM PST

by Hoytsstash on Feb 11, 2009 10:15 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

?
According to the Chicago Tribune, the White Sox signed first baseman Ben Broussard to a minor league deal.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Feb 10, 2009 11:32 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

lol

So, if I am reading the two options correctly . . .
we can either a) keep dye or b) trade dye . . . is that you Phil Rogers?

by jc2313 on Dec 11, 2008 4:53 PM CST up reply recommended Unrec 1

by Where Triples Go to Die on Feb 11, 2009 10:46 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

kenny needs a backup for the band's horn section!

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Feb 10, 2009 8:53 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

lol

So, if I am reading the two options correctly . . .
we can either a) keep dye or b) trade dye . . . is that you Phil Rogers?

by jc2313 on Dec 11, 2008 4:53 PM CST up reply recommended Unrec 1

by Where Triples Go to Die on Feb 11, 2009 10:46 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Finally, he returns.

Welcome back, you POS. I’ll bet my left nut that your post goes green.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Feb 10, 2009 11:40 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Rec'd!

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Feb 10, 2009 11:52 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Thank you for saving my left nut.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Feb 10, 2009 11:57 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

you plan more additions to the family?

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Feb 10, 2009 8:56 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I just like my voice being deeper than my wife's,

and want to not start appreciating figure skating to the exclusion of baseball.

the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST

by winningugly on Feb 11, 2009 6:21 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

WU, you on figure skates, in tights

with only your right nut in tact would make for a great Youtube video.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Feb 11, 2009 9:22 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

2nded

"I am not going out like SSH. "
by WTGTD, 12/3/08

by ballyb on Feb 10, 2009 12:00 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Regression (understandably IMO).

AB 499
AVG .273
RBI 73
HR 21
R72
SB 5
OBP .363
SLG .485

I’m assuming what’s on BP’s site is ‘09 projection (not ’08 projection) — it seems to be, but it’s not entirely clear.

by The Actual El Guapo on Feb 10, 2009 11:53 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Carlos Quentin's tears can cure cancer.

Too bad he never cries.

"No one is sure what Colon has left in his 5-foot-11-inch, 250-plus-pound body." - Chicago Tribune 1/15/09

by tailgater on Feb 10, 2009 12:26 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Hey, 'gater (very OT, sorry)

my daughter just called to say she just lost her first tooth! Have your twins started that yet? IIRC they are the same age as mine (6).

the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST

by winningugly on Feb 10, 2009 1:19 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, they're 6...they seem to each have a couple of "wigglers"

but nothing ready to be extracted quite yet.

Expectations are high for the inaugural visit of The Tooth Fairy.

"No one is sure what Colon has left in his 5-foot-11-inch, 250-plus-pound body." - Chicago Tribune 1/15/09

by tailgater on Feb 10, 2009 1:30 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Fairy is the optimal word.

I don't need to look at fancy stats

to see if a guy is good or not. You might have to.

by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 30, 2008 4:16 PM CST

by omnipotent grab on Feb 10, 2009 7:13 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Note the Yankees hat in the background

’Nuf said.

"No one is sure what Colon has left in his 5-foot-11-inch, 250-plus-pound body." - Chicago Tribune 1/15/09

by tailgater on Feb 11, 2009 1:13 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Me, Red Sox Nation and any living Brooklyn Dodgers fans

"No one is sure what Colon has left in his 5-foot-11-inch, 250-plus-pound body." - Chicago Tribune 1/15/09

by tailgater on Feb 11, 2009 1:35 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

For all of you muppet fans

here are the stories behind 20-muppets. I always thought Beaker was taken after WU, but I guess I was wrong.

I know a little off subject…but I am researching my Chris Getz Shoebox Diorama.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/LIVING/wayoflife/02/10/mf.muppet.favorites.stories/index.html

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Feb 10, 2009 11:55 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

the least favorite part of the year

when it comes to baseball, this is my least favorite part of the year. All this projection talk and fairy tale batting averages and OBPs and stuff. People getting dissed, crowned, kicked, etc. I know I know, we need something to talk about, and I am glad this site is active and gives me sox talk all year long. Also people just love predicting stuff and see how close they can get. And some of them are really knowledgeable and good at it.

But since I know jack shit about predicting baseball numbers, I just patiently, very patiently, wait for spring training games.

Basically what I am saying, here is my line: 1.000 – 3 for 3. Ozzie will slap Getz three times and be right on target each time.

by LT_sox_fan on Feb 10, 2009 12:23 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

You're not alone

I’m not much of a stat person, so this prediction stuff is WAY beyond me.

"Carlos Quentin? Where's Hamilton?"
"I ate him."

by HappyHuman on Feb 10, 2009 5:54 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

You have to give Getz time to prove himself

Expectations for Alexei were low…and now look at his success!

Expectations for Q! were low…and now look at his success!

Expectations for Brian Anderson were low…and now, uh…well, maybe Jerry Owens will still work out.

"No one is sure what Colon has left in his 5-foot-11-inch, 250-plus-pound body." - Chicago Tribune 1/15/09

by tailgater on Feb 10, 2009 12:30 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Just wait until you see the movement

on Marquez’s 89MPH heater….only a few days to go.

Speaking of that…anyone making reservations for V-Day this year? Seems a lot easier than years past. Usually I wait until the last second and it bites me in the a$$, and we eat at 9:30pm or some sh*t. This year I called 3 respectable places and could get any time I wanted.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Feb 10, 2009 12:34 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Welcome to austerity.

My wife and I agreed to give each other nothing this year. (I still got her a gift certificate to a jewelry store – I don’t believe her for a minute.) I’m having foot surgery Thursday and we’d not be going out anyway on Saturday. I’ve talked with a lot of my clients who aren’t spending anything on V-Day this year.

the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST

by winningugly on Feb 10, 2009 12:41 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

ah, fuck.

and here i am not only dropping a couple grand on the wife but i have to come up with something for the mistress, too. you fuckers could have told me sooner that we were allowed to not give gifts this year. thanks. thanks a lot.

our schtick is old

by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I thought you knew everything.

the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST

by winningugly on Feb 10, 2009 12:48 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

larry has a wife?

The pillow talk must be fascinating.

"No one is sure what Colon has left in his 5-foot-11-inch, 250-plus-pound body." - Chicago Tribune 1/15/09

by tailgater on Feb 10, 2009 1:33 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

She's mute.

You think larry would marry someone who could voice a contrary optinion?

the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST

by winningugly on Feb 10, 2009 2:30 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Racist.

(Though I thought the same thing.)

the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST

by winningugly on Feb 11, 2009 6:16 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

LOL!

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Feb 11, 2009 3:12 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

gout is a real fucker

my mates got it, always screaming with pain

anytime you like sunshine

by hoodlight on Feb 10, 2009 12:49 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

A rich man's disease? Not me.

Heredity. Mom/Grandpa both had similar issues. Just a couple of screws in the joint (not metaphorically) and some shaving.

the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST

by winningugly on Feb 10, 2009 12:55 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

they shave your balls for foot surgery?!?

Your wife is going to love those doctors!

You are right. But larry is actually a prick too.
- HSA 01/07/09

by rhythm on Feb 10, 2009 5:52 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Question re: this subject

If I’m going on a 3rd date w/ a girl on Thursday, I don’t have to do anything/Acknowledge V-Day, do I?

by Crede's Crew on Feb 10, 2009 1:17 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

no - waste of money

I’d cancel if I were you, have nothing to do with the V day. Then shag her the day after.

anytime you like sunshine

by hoodlight on Feb 10, 2009 1:25 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

mate, it's just 6 hours

So Thurs night = Late Thurs night for you or in the wee hours of Friday (a time in which you’ll still prob be drinking)

by Crede's Crew on Feb 10, 2009 1:33 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

89?

you got the digits reversed

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Feb 10, 2009 9:02 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

niiiiiice.

just finished season 1 again. i left the room for wallace and kima. can’t take that shit again.

Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.

by colintj on Feb 10, 2009 1:20 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

yeah.

sat my new roommate down through season 1. season 2 starts today if i pick up disc 1 from the library. the whole of season 2 is en route via mail from my brother, supposedly.

Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.

by colintj on Feb 10, 2009 2:24 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, but didn't it just support the stereotype of corrupt unions as well (sure it gave it a more human touch)?

that said, i liked the 2nd season more after watching it the second time. i just introduce my bro, whose a labor organizer, to the wire. i’m waiting for his take if he makes it through the second season.

by onlysoxfaninboston on Feb 10, 2009 2:50 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

i'm hoping i like the second season better the second time around

because the first go through it was my least favorite

But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.

by U-God on Feb 10, 2009 4:38 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

apparently when BET airs season 2 episodes

they splice out the scenes involving the union and the docks. i guess they have like 15 minute episodes after that at best.

But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.

by U-God on Feb 10, 2009 4:46 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

i remember reading about that

still think its a shame. i always have a hard time telling people about the show because anytime they ask who was on it the only name i can hope they recognize is method man

But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.

by U-God on Feb 10, 2009 4:59 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Recently the actors have been getting some work on other shows.

Lance Reddick is on Fringe with guest spots on Lost.
John Doman (Rawls) is bringing his unique scumbag charm to Damages, which certainly is no The Wire, but it is twisty as hell without completely selling out plausibility. And Clarke Peters (Lester) just popped up in the last episode too.

by CatBrains on Feb 11, 2009 9:59 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

it totally weirds me out to see Wire characters on other shows

especially when they’ve been castrated of whatever their trademark awesomeness was on the show. like that Levy-Arby’s ad.

Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.

by colintj on Feb 11, 2009 10:41 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

i'm sure they do

my earlier point should be taken as a minor quibble. i think david simon knows that the plight of labor unions is a lot more complex than simple union corruption trying to make ends meet because the hand is forced against them, but i don’t think most viewers do.

by onlysoxfaninboston on Feb 10, 2009 10:10 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

They're all great, but I never expect to see anything on TV as good as the 1st season of the Wire.

The best ever season of the best ever show ever on TV ever ever ever, period. Ever.

by The Actual El Guapo on Feb 10, 2009 2:55 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

So you are recommending this show?

the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST

by winningugly on Feb 10, 2009 2:57 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

i liked the season with the school... 4?

"KenWO
no point in arguing with people who are blinded from reality..."
by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 29, 2008 6:49 PM

by Illini0509 on Feb 10, 2009 3:04 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

agreed

it’s hard to match the impact of the first season because everything’s new, and the quality blows you away, but i think season 4 is the greatest season of television ever made.

by Ryno on Feb 10, 2009 3:43 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm more of a lurker but I'll throw in my $.02

My order goes 4,1,2 and 3 (tie), 5… with season 5 still being in the top 10 greatest seasons of TV all-time (Deadwood seasons 1 and 2 are in there somewhere as well as The Shield season 5)

by CatBrains on Feb 10, 2009 3:52 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

MST3K Season 5

by ReservoirDog on Feb 10, 2009 4:11 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Hill Street Blues, #1

The Shield’s Grandfather.

the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST

by winningugly on Feb 10, 2009 4:12 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Not a lot of shows I would never miss,

but in it’s day that was one.

the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST

by winningugly on Feb 10, 2009 4:52 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

PS Had to go back to your "Jammer" treatise of 9/9/08.

Those were the days. MarketMaker, Toonderstrook. The old gang.

the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST

by winningugly on Feb 10, 2009 4:59 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

MM, where has *that* fucker been?

dropping like flies around here…..

I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.

by thatshortkid on Feb 10, 2009 5:31 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Oph seesin.

Get’s real quiet-like here on the farm. No varmints runnin’ to n’ fro, an’ the milkin’ machines look’n like a whole buncha old bony skeltons. Just the ol’ creaky porch swing, and a man alone with his thoughts. Kinda situation that’ll drive a feller to distraction.

by The Actual El Guapo on Feb 10, 2009 6:03 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

You live in Flori-duh, too?

the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST

by winningugly on Feb 10, 2009 8:00 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Ha... I don't know the seasons well enough

but the few episodes I have seen were mostly great. Obviously there is always going to be some downtown time with the format they set up, but the highs are definitely worth it.

by CatBrains on Feb 10, 2009 4:49 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

excellent show!

So, if I am reading the two options correctly . . .
we can either a) keep dye or b) trade dye . . . is that you Phil Rogers?

by jc2313 on Dec 11, 2008 4:53 PM CST up reply recommended Unrec 1

by Where Triples Go to Die on Feb 11, 2009 11:21 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with that order except I'd say that

1A) season 4
1B) season 1

2a season 2
2b season 3

3 season 5

Like you mentioned 5, for whatever reason, while still a hell of a show, just isn’t up to snuff with the rest of the seasons. Too contrived. That said, in contect of the rest of the show 5 is weak but it’s still amazing TV.

Season 4…wow.

by madvillian on Feb 10, 2009 10:04 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

i like that order

with the qualifier that i haven’t seen 2 yet. the entire series was on sale for about 89 bucks around christmas, i’m sure you can still find it relatively cheap for those looking to get into it.

"KenWO
no point in arguing with people who are blinded from reality..."
by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 29, 2008 6:49 PM

by Illini0509 on Feb 10, 2009 10:40 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

nope

that was a christmas time only deal. hbo cut prices huge on all their dvds the week after christmas. i pounced on that shit. whole series runs around $250 again i think.

that’s rentertainment has the whole series if you’re looking for a place to rent or i could maybe loan it to you.

But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.

by U-God on Feb 10, 2009 10:43 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

i felt $90 was fine for a hard copy of the entire show

its 23 discs

But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.

by U-God on Feb 10, 2009 11:29 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

agreed as well

i was only planning on buying season 1 at first until i saw that the whole series was under $100

But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.

by U-God on Feb 11, 2009 10:28 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Looks like the huge sale

ended 1/22, but amazon has the whole thing for 178… you can get it used for around 100.

"KenWO
no point in arguing with people who are blinded from reality..."
by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 29, 2008 6:49 PM

by Illini0509 on Feb 10, 2009 11:12 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

i also like this order.

and cosign the commentary. Contrived is right. Rushed, I’d also offer. He really hung the “bad” newspaper guys out to dry without giving anything more than the associated prizes and promotions to papers of higher repute. Rawls and Burrell and Davis are all infinitely more compelling and scary and real than…whoever the top guy was and Templeton. I could barely remember their names. They were not real people, nor really was Gus, in the same way that the rest of the show were. I obviously need to see it again to clarify my thoughts.

Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.

by colintj on Feb 10, 2009 11:22 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

those top newspaper guys were fucking hacks

but he needed more than 1 season to make his case on that..

by onlysoxfaninboston on Feb 11, 2009 10:28 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

i mean how about one scene at their homes or something?

they were Generic Hateable Seemingly Impotent White Dudes

Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.

by colintj on Feb 11, 2009 10:42 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

yeah i was all

WHAAAAAA?!?

Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.

by colintj on Feb 11, 2009 11:23 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

i was upset that never got picked up further down the line

But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.

by U-God on Feb 11, 2009 12:07 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

funny

i actually liked the fact that it never got picked up. it would’ve been predictable for him to be found out and blackmailed. instead, dude’s just gay.

i know it violates chekhov’s maxim about not showing a gun you’re never going to fire, but i usually like it when my expectations are confounded.

by Ryno on Feb 11, 2009 12:29 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

yeah i can see that

But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.

by U-God on Feb 11, 2009 12:30 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Well stated and agreed.

Nuts to Chekhov. A good story can always use a purposeful red herring or two.

by CatBrains on Feb 11, 2009 12:37 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Did you read Mark Bowden's take down of season 5?

It’s here. He basically thinks Simon’s anger, particularly at the newspaper industry, biases and diminishes the show.

I think that is true to some extent of season 5, but as whole I agree with everyone who thinks it’s the best thing that’s ever been on television. Whether or not the realism is questionable, the acknowledgment of complexity and the frailty of human nature and corrupting power of institutions simply kicked ass.

by hitlesswonder on Feb 11, 2009 12:34 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

i feel like season 1 could have been the end of the show and it would have been a complete and perfect series, but season 4 just hit so hard cuz of the kids

But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.

by U-God on Feb 10, 2009 4:39 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Season 4 all the way

2 really grew on me, and not just cuz I’m Polish. So, I’d go:

4
3
2
1
5

www.stallingtheman.blogspot.com

by Raf on Feb 10, 2009 11:27 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

EVER.

the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST

by winningugly on Feb 10, 2009 3:18 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

madmen season 1 is pretty outstanding as well

"KenWO
no point in arguing with people who are blinded from reality..."
by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 29, 2008 6:49 PM

by Illini0509 on Feb 10, 2009 11:18 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

have you seen season 2? that was outstanding.

both are great.

Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.

by colintj on Feb 10, 2009 11:24 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

agreed.

season 2 was even better.

by Craig Grebeck on Feb 10, 2009 11:33 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

wow

i’ll have to check it out… didn’t realize it had started when it did and was behind, so i didn’t want to jump in mid season

"KenWO
no point in arguing with people who are blinded from reality..."
by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 29, 2008 6:49 PM

by Illini0509 on Feb 10, 2009 11:36 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh yeah... that would actually have to find a way into my top 10 I think

Season 2 as well. This top 10 is going to have to become a top 15 pretty soon I think.

Oh and if any of Madmen fans haven’t seen Jon Hamm’s John Ham… do yourself a favor.

by CatBrains on Feb 11, 2009 10:10 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

yesssss

+1 to Jon Hamm’s John Ham.

Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.

by colintj on Feb 11, 2009 10:42 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

He reminds me of Will Ferrell in that spot.

the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST

by winningugly on Feb 11, 2009 11:24 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I got my buddy into it

By the time he got through season 1, he ordered the whole set of 1-5 and watched the whole 5 seasons in under a month…the kid is an animal.
But yeah, never seen anything as highly addictive on TV.

by Crede's Crew on Feb 10, 2009 4:21 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

My sister just killed it all in 3 weeks.

She works about 10 hours a week though.

by CatBrains on Feb 10, 2009 4:51 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

took me about a month and a half watching them solely online

But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.

by U-God on Feb 10, 2009 4:55 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Kris Honel Update

Kris would like you to know the following:
“Kris Honel is gonna make it official…Sorry to all my friends that are Sox fans..I’m a Minnesota Twin as of a week ago..Boo me at the Cell one day please..I’ll love it!”

by Crede's Crew on Feb 10, 2009 1:17 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Is that his facebook?

Any Sox players with one?

My president is white.

by JoeCoolMan24 on Feb 10, 2009 3:23 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

LOL !

"wow, yeah. cubs ST should be awesome. have a great time."
-by Larry on Jan. 9, 2009 3:09 PM PST

by Hoytsstash on Feb 10, 2009 3:54 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, it's his Facebook status

I’m also friends with John Danks, Kyle McCullough (does he still count?), and Fields’ wife.

Wait, how can I forget…I’m also friends with THE Jerry Owens. I actually IM’ed him once when drunk and he wrote back saying he appreciates the support.
Then I linked him to this site and he stopped writing back…

by Crede's Crew on Feb 10, 2009 4:22 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

ashleigh? nice.

our schtick is old

by larry on Feb 10, 2009 4:25 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

You guys are creepy.

the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST

by winningugly on Feb 10, 2009 4:34 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

i sometimes wonder if you aren't a fag, wu.

i’m glad i didn’t accept that margarita.

our schtick is old

by larry on Feb 10, 2009 4:35 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

So am I.

Saved me, what, $6?

the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST

by winningugly on Feb 10, 2009 4:36 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

and the horrors it saved me from are priceless.

if you don’t think ashleigh fields is hot, i question your straightness. we’ll have to tour the wife/girlfriend seats when you visit the cell just to make sure that you’re still operating properly.

our schtick is old

by larry on Feb 10, 2009 4:40 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not saying she's not hot. I've never seen her.

Just the fact that you guys keep track of the wives is creepy.

IIRC, yesterday I was slobbering over A-Rod’s soon-to-be-ex. I am still riveted to that picture.

the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST

by winningugly on Feb 10, 2009 4:53 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

i’ve seen her. she’s hot. how is that “keeping track”.

our schtick is old

by larry on Feb 10, 2009 6:14 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I know a "pants around the ankles" post when I see one.

(Fwap, fwap, fwap.) Perv.

the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST

by winningugly on Feb 10, 2009 8:01 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Have you memorized her first name?

or did you just look it up before posting?

by 3E8 on Feb 10, 2009 10:16 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

(And pleasure yourself to?)

the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST

by winningugly on Feb 11, 2009 10:22 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Denial, larry, will only get you in the same soup

as A-Rod and McGwire.

(Fwap, fwap, fwap.)

the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST

by winningugly on Feb 11, 2009 11:24 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

To add to both of your creepiness

Only reason to go to a Bulls game right now, Luvabull, Ms. Illinois, and currently featured in the SI Swimsuit issue:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009_swimsuit/dancers/shanon-lersch/09_shanon-lersch_1.html

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Feb 11, 2009 11:34 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Nice - I saw the issue last night.

After over 35 years of subscribing I’m finally letting it lapse. A nice issue ending a long relationship.

the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST

by winningugly on Feb 11, 2009 11:48 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

or take him to a steel mill to reinforce his masculinity

i can’t find the video clip of that from the simpsons..

by onlysoxfaninboston on Feb 10, 2009 4:56 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

what's creepier:

athlete WAG facebook stalking or HS football recruit facebook stalking?

Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.

by colintj on Feb 10, 2009 5:25 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

im friends with danks

larry has that system down to a science. Especially with the way the economy is….big wigs like larry coming in dressed in their mink coats and 24k gold cigarrete holders with pockets lined with coke make for a large draw during shift changes.
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs

by Jbasic89 on Feb 10, 2009 4:56 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

likewise

But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.

by U-God on Feb 10, 2009 4:57 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Kris Honel also wants us to know...

the Chicago White Sox were/are the Best/Worst thing to ever happen to him.

I cannot answer any more questions for you today. I has wickeds gas from drink too manys redbull.

by Marlafar on Feb 11, 2009 11:41 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Two people have Getz slugging .500

and another has him hitting 62 extra-base hits.

/I’m thinking we’re gonna have a tad optimistic projection

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Feb 10, 2009 1:41 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

name names.

our schtick is old

by larry on Feb 10, 2009 1:41 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Brush Back loves Getz

I wanted him up last season – you beat me down for it

Replacing "Chicago Tough" with "Cuban Pride"

by Brush Back on Feb 10, 2009 4:20 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Hmmm - it was suppose to be 32... but I hit submit a bit quickly

When I realized it – knew I’d probably catch shit for it too. I expect all but 1 to be a double.

Replacing "Chicago Tough" with "Cuban Pride"

by Brush Back on Feb 10, 2009 7:46 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

And that double will be a "leg" double.

Maybe even a “bunt” double.

the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST

by winningugly on Feb 10, 2009 8:02 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

or the ever so common, the-scorekeeper-is-drunk double

"wow, yeah. cubs ST should be awesome. have a great time."
-by Larry on Jan. 9, 2009 3:09 PM PST

by Hoytsstash on Feb 10, 2009 9:22 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

there are sometimes Black Swans...

"A good cigar is like a beautiful chick with a great body who also knows the American League box scores. "
Klinger

by Chiburb on Feb 10, 2009 2:20 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I enjoyed that book

A friend of mine got the book on tape and said Taleb sounds very angry on it.

I replied he may be angry but he was right about a lot of things.

White Sox: Trying to roll a hard six.

by vince_ on Feb 10, 2009 2:21 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

if he could write better and wasn't such a dick

maybe we’d all be better off.

Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.

by colintj on Feb 10, 2009 2:25 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Now there I agree with you 100%, colin.

the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST

by winningugly on Feb 10, 2009 2:29 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, he's a dick

Even if he was a really nice person, I’m not sure anyone would have listened anyway — no one was interested in rocking the boat.

White Sox: Trying to roll a hard six.

by vince_ on Feb 10, 2009 3:02 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

i read half the book and never got much more than

“complex systems will fail outside the bounds of our predictions”

michael fucking crichton took that notion, threw in a T-Rex and made millions. presentation is everything.

Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.

by colintj on Feb 10, 2009 5:25 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

There's a strong bit of discussion about types of risk

More precisely, that many financial models in use today assume a normal distribution (bell curve) of pricing movements, but its quite easy to show that this is not how markets act. In those kind of models, events like what we’ve been going through are supposed to be impossible. He states the problem is if a lot of people are using these models, they don’t understand how much risk they are exposing themselves too.

According to Mandelbrot and Taleb, markets have a fractal distribution of pricing movements. Taleb talks about this a lot more in his other book Fooled by Randomness. Another book I enjoyed which was written well before either of these and first developed many of the ideas of fractal behavior in markets was Benoit Mandelbrot’s The (Mis)Behavior of Markets.

That’s it for Vince’s Reading Rainbow today.

White Sox: Trying to roll a hard six.

by vince_ on Feb 10, 2009 5:34 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

fractal distribution?

Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.

by colintj on Feb 10, 2009 5:41 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The short version

is that the plot looks the same no matter what timeline you choose (i.e. it is self-similar). So an example would be is if you looked at the S&P 500 over 80 years, 8 years, 8 months, 8 weeks, or 8 days, you couldn’t identify which plot is which just by looking at them – they all look the same. That’s a fractal distribution.

White Sox: Trying to roll a hard six.

by vince_ on Feb 10, 2009 5:52 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

econ/finance is out of my league

but i’m interested. doesn’t this imply that there’s some fundamental structure of performance regardless of time?

Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.

by colintj on Feb 10, 2009 7:47 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I dunno

I make video games. All these books are just odd things I read for fun, so real econ/finance is beyond me to.

It is my understanding so far that no one has figured out how to use the fractal stuff in any sort of predictive fashion, or if they have, they are keeping it to themselves.

White Sox: Trying to roll a hard six.

by vince_ on Feb 10, 2009 7:57 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Nicely put.

He (rightly) trashed the VAR concept, or at least the amount of credence folks put in it and how they extrapolated right over the 1% that falls outside the bounds of a “normal” market.

He is quite the arrogant prick – like Peter Schiff. These guys who get it right sometimes (granted, it’s a BIG "right") ought to remain a little humble. (Roubini is also in this camp – now on his World Tour.) The tallest nail gets hammered down the fastest…

the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST

by winningugly on Feb 10, 2009 5:42 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Black Swans?

anytime you like sunshine

by hoodlight on Feb 10, 2009 6:02 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I looked it up

Black swan events, that are ‘undirected" and unpredicted’, trying to tag this kind of theory onto the current financial stuff is dumb, it was very predictable and lots of people saw it coming.

anytime you like sunshine

by hoodlight on Feb 10, 2009 6:41 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Remember the Swisher projection from last year?

The community here is usually pretty optimistic.

I’m a Getz fan, but I’m not expecting a whole bunch. I am bullish on Josh Fields, though…

by The Jerry Royster Experience on Feb 10, 2009 2:38 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

For the record

I gave him 266/316/316

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Feb 10, 2009 2:52 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Him who? Swish, Getz, or Fields?

the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST

by winningugly on Feb 10, 2009 2:56 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

jerry royster.

our schtick is old

by larry on Feb 10, 2009 2:58 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Dang...

That’s really close to what I gave Getz.

Really close.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on Feb 10, 2009 3:57 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

So was mine. And if I'm close, any idiot can get close.

I think it’s pretty easy to peg a guy who has no power and is “grindy”. Eckstein-lite.

the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST

by winningugly on Feb 10, 2009 4:36 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

aka, aaron miles.

our schtick is old

by larry on Feb 10, 2009 4:41 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

i went with 270/330/380

Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.

by colintj on Feb 10, 2009 5:21 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

i was close to that

i think it was 278/340/400

"KenWO
no point in arguing with people who are blinded from reality..."
by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 29, 2008 6:49 PM

by Illini0509 on Feb 10, 2009 5:33 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

srsly?

that’s a lot of pop and patience for his track record.

Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.

by colintj on Feb 10, 2009 11:28 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Going with 261/331/351

just thought 1 is more positive than 0.

I don't need to look at fancy stats

to see if a guy is good or not. You might have to.

by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 30, 2008 4:16 PM CST

by omnipotent grab on Feb 10, 2009 9:15 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

damn i thought i was overly optimistic

"KenWO
no point in arguing with people who are blinded from reality..."
by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 29, 2008 6:49 PM

by Illini0509 on Feb 10, 2009 2:45 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

im saving my rediculous prediction for someone else

larry has that system down to a science. Especially with the way the economy is….big wigs like larry coming in dressed in their mink coats and 24k gold cigarrete holders with pockets lined with coke make for a large draw during shift changes.
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs

by Jbasic89 on Feb 10, 2009 4:58 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Me too.

Goggles:

AB: 550
AVG: .394
HR: 64
RBI: 187
R: 203
SB: 53
OBP: .544
SLG: .858

by The Actual El Guapo on Feb 10, 2009 5:08 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

those numbers have to be at least 4 standard deviations away from his career numbers haha

larry has that system down to a science. Especially with the way the economy is….big wigs like larry coming in dressed in their mink coats and 24k gold cigarrete holders with pockets lined with coke make for a large draw during shift changes.
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs

by Jbasic89 on Feb 10, 2009 5:16 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

6 sigma event.

the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST

by winningugly on Feb 10, 2009 5:16 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

is that Lego Utilization for Negating Crisis Hierarchies

or Consuming Lunch And Simple Socializing?

I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.

by thatshortkid on Feb 10, 2009 5:47 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

30 Rock reference

White Sox: Trying to roll a hard six.

by vince_ on Feb 10, 2009 9:19 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

funniest show on tv right nao

Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.

by colintj on Feb 10, 2009 11:32 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

It’s main competition having falling off a bit last season (Always Sunny) and it’s predecessor becoming a complete bastardization of what it originally was (The Office). South Park is always right there for me too, but I would say that 30 Rock is more consistent these days.

by CatBrains on Feb 11, 2009 10:39 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Sunny's fourth season was still pretty great

but 30 Rock’s been outstanding for like 20 straight episodes now. I remember watching early eps of season 1 and thinking it was funny but needed a lot of work. It’s gotten it. Just a ton of greatness going on there.

Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.

by colintj on Feb 11, 2009 10:44 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Scrubs is in 2nd for me

the writing is solid, the switch from NBC to ABC is crazy, i cant remember any other shows doing that.

by e-gus on Feb 11, 2009 12:23 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

i feel like the writing has improved since the switch

i really didn’t care much for season 7

But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.

by U-God on Feb 11, 2009 12:31 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Note to makers of Scubs and Always Sunny:

FANTASY/HISTORY EPISODE IS ALWAYS A BAD IDEA

by CatBrains on Feb 11, 2009 12:40 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

yes

that fairy tale episode of scrubs was awful.

the always sunny musical was hilarious though

But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.

by U-God on Feb 11, 2009 12:47 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Unless Sarah Chalke (Elliot) ends up

in a skimpy outfit.

"No one is sure what Colon has left in his 5-foot-11-inch, 250-plus-pound body." - Chicago Tribune 1/15/09

by tailgater on Feb 11, 2009 1:18 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

i hate that show.

it’s totally done in by braff’s weird neuroses. way way too precious and/or contrived.

Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.

by colintj on Feb 11, 2009 1:57 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

THE TERM IS Z SCORES FOR FUCK'S SAKE JBASIC

JOIN THE REST OF US IN THE CIVILIZED WORLD YOU FUCKING NEANDERTHAL

by Craig Grebeck on Feb 10, 2009 10:26 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Larry

Is there anyway I can contact you (email or some other method)… that is, if you are willing to advise? It relates to law school and potentially career/interviewing stuff.

"KenWO
no point in arguing with people who are blinded from reality..."
by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 29, 2008 6:49 PM

by Illini0509 on Feb 10, 2009 5:09 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

well not really potentially career/interviewing stuff

but i guess it could have an impact on that

"KenWO
no point in arguing with people who are blinded from reality..."
by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 29, 2008 6:49 PM

by Illini0509 on Feb 10, 2009 5:13 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

illini05091@gmail.com

"KenWO
no point in arguing with people who are blinded from reality..."
by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 29, 2008 6:49 PM

by Illini0509 on Feb 10, 2009 7:13 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Get ready tobe spammed!!

I don't need to look at fancy stats

to see if a guy is good or not. You might have to.

by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 30, 2008 4:16 PM CST

by omnipotent grab on Feb 10, 2009 7:30 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

jk.

I don't need to look at fancy stats

to see if a guy is good or not. You might have to.

by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 30, 2008 4:16 PM CST

by omnipotent grab on Feb 10, 2009 7:31 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Rec'd. Big LOL, c.

the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST

by winningugly on Feb 10, 2009 8:04 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

like i'd actually give out my personal email?

thanks larry, i responded.

"KenWO
no point in arguing with people who are blinded from reality..."
by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 29, 2008 6:49 PM

by Illini0509 on Feb 10, 2009 8:04 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

oh great

now the Emperor has his Darth Vader

by e-gus on Feb 11, 2009 8:57 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Hello there, children. How would you like my Salisbury Steak?

I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.

by thatshortkid on Feb 11, 2009 1:01 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I forgot cleveland's pitching problems
The projected rotation of Cliff Lee (22-3, 2.34), Fausto Carmona (8-7, 5.44), Carl Pavano (2-4, 5.77), Anthony Reyes (4-2, 2.76) and Aaron Laffey (5-7, 4.23) needs a proven veteran, but Jake Westbrook (right elbow) won’t be back until midseason.

http://www.cleveland.com/tribe/index.ssf/2009/02/al_central_spring_prospectus_b.html

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Feb 10, 2009 9:24 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Really,

potentially ugly.

"I am not going out like SSH. "
by WTGTD, 12/3/08

by ballyb on Feb 11, 2009 6:40 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

This is why I don't get most people picking them to win the division.

It isn’t like their offense is all that good. Sox, Twins are still better teams.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Feb 11, 2009 7:21 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

David Huff could easily make that rotation . . .

and be better than Laffey/Reyes/Pavano . . . so, its not like those 5 are their only options. They have depth.

by jc2313 on Feb 11, 2009 8:48 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Who pitches more innings in 09?

Carl Pavano?
or
Bartolo Colon?

by e-gus on Feb 11, 2009 8:58 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

That is a great poll . . .

I think Colon has to be the favorite . . . will either break 40 IP is another question?

by jc2313 on Feb 11, 2009 9:00 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

colon

actual picture of pavano

But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.

by U-God on Feb 11, 2009 9:01 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Glass joe...

the only guy who is a bigger puss than Mackowiak

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Feb 11, 2009 7:54 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I have been preaching this for a while

Kenwo is right…Sox & Twins are better

by Crede's Crew on Feb 11, 2009 12:03 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

links

Pitch sequencing by Josh Kalk
http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/pitch-sequencing/

Categorizing Starting Pitchers by Strikeout and Groundball Rates – 2008 Edition By Rich Lederer
http://baseballanalysts.com/archives/2009/02/post_6.php

Categorizing Relief Pitchers by Strikeout and Groundball Rates – 2008 Edition By Rich Lederer
http://baseballanalysts.com/archives/2009/02/categorizing_re.php

Examining The Remaining Free Agent Hitters by WAR by xanthan
http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2009/2/10/754786/examining-the-remaining-fr

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Feb 10, 2009 9:28 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

just in case SSH still lurks
I am intrigued by de la Rosa, who was 5-2 with a 2.45 ERA and compelling peripheral stats in August and September, a period covering 11 games and nine starts (including five at Coors Field) and 58.2 innings.

from the starting pitcher article.

Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.

by colintj on Feb 10, 2009 11:43 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs


http://www.sox35th.com/index.php/409/the-concert-for-ozzie

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Feb 10, 2009 9:48 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

OT

Great bulls game tonight, one of the best if not the best game of the season.

I don't need to look at fancy stats

to see if a guy is good or not. You might have to.

by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 30, 2008 4:16 PM CST

by omnipotent grab on Feb 10, 2009 10:38 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

watched the last 2:15

They’re gonna win it all!

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Feb 10, 2009 10:59 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

T2 making strides

I hope they hold onto him… speaking of OT, how bout them hawks!

"KenWO
no point in arguing with people who are blinded from reality..."
by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 29, 2008 6:49 PM

by Illini0509 on Feb 10, 2009 11:12 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

No way, this is the time to trade him.

TT looks like he will actually be that above average player, but he will never be able to create his own baskets. Stoudemire is what we hope TT will become, albeit TT might be a better defensive player. If we don’t have to give up Noah AND TT, I say trade anyone and everyone. Trade them all.

Besides Rose, of course.

www.stallingtheman.blogspot.com

by Raf on Feb 10, 2009 11:36 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

if we were talking bosh

i would completely agree. it just seems that there are too many question marks surrounding STAT — not to mention he can (and said he will) opt out after next year and become an FA in 2010, we could lose him then (or acquire him then). But I guess either way, we’ll have that cap space to go after someone else in ’10.

"KenWO
no point in arguing with people who are blinded from reality..."
by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 29, 2008 6:49 PM

by Illini0509 on Feb 10, 2009 11:41 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

arguably better on defense

but they both suck. Sure TT blocks shots, but he is a terrible defender as he is consistently out of position. Amare paired with Rose would be incredibly difficult to stop.

by jc2313 on Feb 11, 2009 8:52 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

A Bulls comeback over the Pistons

MJ and Pippen in the house, a tribute to Red Kerr, and a special message from Obama? Oh it was definitely the best of the year.

Vinny Del Negro interviewed for the job today. I mean come on! Nobody else thinks this is nuts?
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 6, 2008 4:21 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs

by Ozzie Montana on Feb 10, 2009 11:57 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

All of this saving money is fine....

but if Abreau signs for like 5 mil or less, that irks me quite a little….if we assume he’d come here for that and we let budget get in the way….that’s bullshit….Dye or no Dye….that’s the kind of thing you do regardless of payroll or personnel make-up….it’s not like we’re adding to a 120 mil payroll now….I can say that the Sox are cheap if those are the facts.

by dantesox on Feb 11, 2009 8:19 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Unless....

they’re sold on Yasser Gomez and KNOW they will get him to play CF.

by dantesox on Feb 11, 2009 8:36 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

but seriously

But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.

by U-God on Feb 11, 2009 8:36 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

wHEREVER.

RF. Trust me, someone won’t be hitting…or underperforming….etc. I tdoesn’t matter. You get him at that price if that’s what it is.

by dantesox on Feb 11, 2009 8:39 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

because one can never have too many over-30 corner OF/DH/1B types

But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.

by U-God on Feb 11, 2009 8:41 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Where can Hoytsstash get his grubby little digits on a shirt like that ?

"wow, yeah. cubs ST should be awesome. have a great time."
-by Larry on Jan. 9, 2009 3:09 PM PST

by Hoytsstash on Feb 11, 2009 8:45 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

i do not know

i found it on google image search and it referenced back to older threads on here

But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.

by U-God on Feb 11, 2009 8:50 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

A signing or two like Abreau

allows us a reasonable chance in the division WITHOUT affecting the long-term plan.

by dantesox on Feb 11, 2009 8:44 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

because he will surely come to a team where he isn't guaranteed a starting spot or maximum play time

But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.

by U-God on Feb 11, 2009 8:49 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

He's not gonna get 5-600 plate appearances here?

I’ts too early to be smokin’ something that impairs ability to reason.

by dantesox on Feb 11, 2009 8:51 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Put down the meth today, DS.

You like Abreu. He’ll sign with the Angels. We don’t need/can’t use him if we have Dye/Thomer/Paulie. End of story.

the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST

by winningugly on Feb 11, 2009 8:54 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

we noticed

But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.

by U-God on Feb 11, 2009 8:56 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I know. Your position has been stated.

the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST

by winningugly on Feb 11, 2009 8:56 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

OT

wu, would you like to join our fantasy league?

But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.

by U-God on Feb 11, 2009 8:58 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for the invite.

Time is tight. When do you guys need to know? How much of a time commitment is it/week?

the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST

by winningugly on Feb 11, 2009 10:19 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

well only 3 people have joined so far, so you've got time

the draft won’t be til late march, and that is the biggest time commitment (1-2 hours), and if you can’t make it you can always pre-rank players to autodraft. only takes about 15-20 minutes a day. just gotta make sure you plug the right guys in each morning and watch the waiver wire.

But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.

by U-God on Feb 11, 2009 10:24 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

good one

but he isn’t going to sign here unless a spot frees up for him. he can get the same money from other teams that will contend and will give him more ABs. that is sound reason

But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.

by U-God on Feb 11, 2009 8:54 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Vlad in RF or Bobby?

You make the call.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Feb 11, 2009 9:26 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

vlad pretty much refuses to DH

But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.

by U-God on Feb 11, 2009 9:27 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Have you seen him move lately?

He moves like Phil Jackson trying to get to mid court to yell at Luke Walton to quit being a pussy and set some picks for Kobe.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Feb 11, 2009 9:31 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

oh i agree that he should be dhing

but he’s gonna throw one hell of a bitch fit

But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.

by U-God on Feb 11, 2009 9:33 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Kind of like my wife is going to do

when I tell her Obama canceled Valentine’s Day.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Feb 11, 2009 9:43 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Kobe needs picks?

"wow, yeah. cubs ST should be awesome. have a great time."
-by Larry on Jan. 9, 2009 3:09 PM PST

by Hoytsstash on Feb 11, 2009 4:17 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

LOL. Rec'd.

the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST

by winningugly on Feb 11, 2009 10:20 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

You really ought to develop a personality that is truly your own.

In any event, I believe the Sox are irrationally cheap with this non-move.

by dantesox on Feb 11, 2009 10:40 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

There was a unigue combination of need and appeal (seemimgly)

making this a very plausible acquisition vs. other free agents and in comparison to other teams he may have gone to. We’ll never know how strong a play, if any, the Sox made. Yes, I’m doing some assuming, but I think an overly strict adherence to payroll may have been the determining factor in us getting Abreu….and he could have made a real difference for us this year. Perhaps we’ll know more in the coming weeks.

by dantesox on Feb 11, 2009 1:33 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

questions

1. Where would he play?
2. What do you think we’d get for Dye with teams knowing we need to unload him?
3. What do you think we’d get for Dye, considering his salary is double what Abreu is getting?

Keep in mind, I’m a big Abreu fan.
Don’t see how it works given our current situation though.

by Crede's Crew on Feb 11, 2009 1:37 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

where is the need?

things the sox could be characterized as “needing”:
2B
SS
3B
CF
SP

Bobby Abreu is none of those

But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.

by U-God on Feb 11, 2009 1:37 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

you might be insane.

bob abreu had no place on this team. his only position is DH. he is a terrible terrible terrible terrible terrible corner OF. we already have those things, only they’re better in all regards. Dye and Abreu are functionally equivalent and the latter got half of what Dye is owed on the open market. every last one of these details should make it totally and utterly plain that there was no fucking place for Bobby Abreu on the Chicago White Sox in 2009.

Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.

by colintj on Feb 11, 2009 2:00 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

new rule - white sox get to field two DHs

curious to go with 2 lefties at that position but, shoot, that’s just ozzie going with his gut.

our schtick is old

by larry on Feb 11, 2009 2:02 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

so you're saying Bob Abreu

would take a role on the bench to wait out a possible injury for the White Sox and not take 5 mil to go start? how often does that ever happen? ever?

Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.

by colintj on Feb 11, 2009 2:06 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

that's really nice. i'd like to have lots of players, regardless of whether such things occur.

if i’m abreu, i’ve got no fucking idea why i would sign with the white sox.

our schtick is old

by larry on Feb 11, 2009 2:06 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

duh!

To hang out with Ozzie Jr.!

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Feb 11, 2009 2:08 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

And maybe that is what really happened.

If so, then, oh well. I’m not convinced that’s how it happened, though.

by dantesox on Feb 11, 2009 2:10 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Perhaps.

But it would be hard to believe there isn’t more to it given what we heard a week or so ago.

by dantesox on Feb 11, 2009 2:15 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

larry, your really are quite pissy today

President’s Day anxiety?

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Feb 11, 2009 2:15 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

guys I Hoytsstash is really having a lot of trouble tracking all of

the “happenings” in this fucking blog. Meaning Dantesox.

"wow, yeah. cubs ST should be awesome. have a great time."
-by Larry on Jan. 9, 2009 3:09 PM PST

by Hoytsstash on Feb 11, 2009 4:25 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I "is", we "is", he "be" Mr. Robinson..."WHO IS IT?!!!"

"wow, yeah. cubs ST should be awesome. have a great time."
-by Larry on Jan. 9, 2009 3:09 PM PST

by Hoytsstash on Feb 11, 2009 4:28 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

its about fucking TIME ! I been waiting for that since 1977 !

"wow, yeah. cubs ST should be awesome. have a great time."
-by Larry on Jan. 9, 2009 3:09 PM PST

by Hoytsstash on Feb 11, 2009 4:19 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

i'm pretty sure cocky smart-ass has been my personality since i was about 13

but whatever you say doc

But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.

by U-God on Feb 11, 2009 12:08 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

did your mother yell at you a lot?

was it impossible to ever please your father?

our schtick is old

by larry on Feb 11, 2009 12:10 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Illini0509,

your straitjacket has arrived…Dr. Mengele will see you now.

LOL.

the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST

by winningugly on Feb 11, 2009 12:16 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

fingers crossed that he just decides to exterminate

manual labor is so beneath me

"KenWO
no point in arguing with people who are blinded from reality..."
by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 29, 2008 6:49 PM

by Illini0509 on Feb 11, 2009 1:50 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

intriguing

and i’ll still pass on manual labor, at least it’ll be in the name of science, right?

"KenWO
no point in arguing with people who are blinded from reality..."
by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 29, 2008 6:49 PM

by Illini0509 on Feb 11, 2009 1:54 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

pseudoscience.

our schtick is old

by larry on Feb 11, 2009 1:55 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

i dont like the sound of that

"KenWO
no point in arguing with people who are blinded from reality..."
by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 29, 2008 6:49 PM

by Illini0509 on Feb 11, 2009 2:05 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

U-God's pop has a tiny g-spot?

Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.

by colintj on Feb 11, 2009 2:02 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

And the Swisher deal looks better and better...

(Or, perhaps, not as ludicrous.)

the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST

by winningugly on Feb 11, 2009 10:21 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

It indeed does

not a friendly contract in today’s environment.

by jc2313 on Feb 11, 2009 10:42 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

ummm jc?

My reference to A was regarding the bitching about Dye’s defense in right . . . so, we sign Abreu and have even worse defense in left. Don’t understand that at all.

And he made $16M last year, so I don’t think he will make anywhere near that . . . but thinking he is going to go much below $10M . . . if Nick Punto gets a 2yr $8.5M deal . . . do you really think that Abreu is going to get much below $10M?

And sorry, missed the joke . . . fair enough on that.

by jc2313 on Dec 11, 2008 9:13 PM CST to parent up actions actions 0 recs

"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."

by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."

by Tdogg on Feb 11, 2009 9:43 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Wow

You’ve had that loaded in the Gun ready to fire for weeks now. I am waiting patiently for the rebuttal.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Feb 11, 2009 9:45 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

lol

All in good fun.

"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."

by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."

by Tdogg on Feb 11, 2009 9:49 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Seriously, nice job keeping that

post in the back of your mind. You were right though . . . I did not think the market would deteriorate to this level . . . I would have never believed anyone if they told me, in December, Abreu would sign for 1yr/$5m.

by jc2313 on Feb 11, 2009 10:45 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

What kind of rebuttal was that?!

You just rolled over and died.

Stick up for yourself man! You should have come back with some ammo, like the contract is loaded with incentives and there is a chance he makes $10 mil next year….instead you just stuck your palms up and crapped yourself.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Feb 11, 2009 10:50 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

yeah i thought this was America

what the fuck jc. what. the. fuck.

Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.

by colintj on Feb 11, 2009 11:26 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Getting a presentation ready for

the president of our division . . . I honestly did not read the terms/negotations at all, probably should have before I replied. Though it looks like the deal is yet to be done and ‘could’ be worth $8M . . . which means it could end up being greater than the $7M I was referring to.

And since we are keeping track of rights and wrongs . . .

And I think people need to calm their expectations that Dye (via trade) is going to bring major league ready pitching that will provide a significant upgrade to what we see today.

by jc2313 on Dec 11, 2008 5:51 PM CST up 0 recs

A pitcher almost ready with significant upside
and cost control is fine by me. And regardless of what you think those types of deals do get done.

by Tdogg on Dec 11, 2008 6:07 PM CST up 0 recs

I think it is pretty clear that Dye could not fetch that aforementioned ‘pitcher almost ready with significant upside and cost control’. So, one for me . . . maybe one for you!!!

by jc2313 on Feb 11, 2009 12:39 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

And that

post is dedicated to America.

by jc2313 on Feb 11, 2009 12:39 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Thank you for your patriotism

I think we will end the case as a mistrial, as I don’t think it is going anywhere. Off to the strip club!

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Feb 11, 2009 1:40 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

We discussed this before
Larry. I just don’t feel confident in what I have seen with Danks. Maybe he turns into a great pitcher, but I just don’t see it. McCarthey has better stuff.
“Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no” to a hamburger…"
by BobbySouthSide on Jan 22, 2008 11:59 AM CST

Just by watching
the both of them pitch it seems that McCarthey has better stuff, knows how to pitch to batters and can control a game if his stuff is on, like 2005.
Danks never showed me anything to be excited about. His stuff never has really made me go, wow, this kid can be a top of the line rotation pitcher. It looks like he tries to aim pitches and hit the exact spot and ends up getting burned because his control still isn’t there.

This is just my opinion and I don’t really have the stats to back it up…just my observations.

“Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no” to a hamburger…"
by BobbySouthSide on Jan 22, 2008 12:18 PM CST

our schtick is old

by larry on Feb 11, 2009 1:44 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Posting projections/opinions on the Internet based on "observations" is a mother.

the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST

by winningugly on Feb 11, 2009 1:57 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

larry is satan's child.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Feb 11, 2009 1:58 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, that "search" function is available only to Mephisto.

the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST

by winningugly on Feb 11, 2009 1:59 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

dang bobby you really said all that??

So, if I am reading the two options correctly . . .
we can either a) keep dye or b) trade dye . . . is that you Phil Rogers?

by jc2313 on Dec 11, 2008 4:53 PM CST up reply recommended Unrec 1

by Where Triples Go to Die on Feb 12, 2009 10:26 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Hoytsstash thinks one of the reasons McCarthey got shipped

was because slick KW was texting his girlfriend and McCarthey confronted KW in his office and had to be physically restrained…..or is that old news, or a dream, or some drug-induced hallucination…..fist fighting the boss will get you nowhere, Danny. But the world needs ditch-diggers too….

"wow, yeah. cubs ST should be awesome. have a great time."
-by Larry on Jan. 9, 2009 3:09 PM PST

by Hoytsstash on Feb 11, 2009 4:34 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

NNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BRETT FAVRE IS RETIRING!!!! BUT HE WAS HAVING SO MUCH FUN!!!

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/football/nfl/02/11/favre.retirement/index.html

anyone want to set the over/under for his unretirement date?

our schtick is old

by larry on Feb 11, 2009 9:20 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

I take the under

It will be the weekend before the draft.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Feb 11, 2009 9:27 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

No, he will wait for the Jets

to draft a QB, or sign a FA, and then come back right before training camp to screw them just like he did the Packers . . . not that I minded.

by jc2313 on Feb 11, 2009 9:31 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm still sticking with the weekend before the draft

I can’t wait unti the “Favre to Chicago??” rumors start flying again.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Feb 11, 2009 9:47 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I would rather watch

Brett Basanez than Favre next year . . .

by jc2313 on Feb 11, 2009 10:40 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

DFA URIBE!

So, if I am reading the two options correctly . . .
we can either a) keep dye or b) trade dye . . . is that you Phil Rogers?

by jc2313 on Dec 11, 2008 4:53 PM CST up reply recommended Unrec 1

by Where Triples Go to Die on Feb 11, 2009 11:32 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Getz

I’m thinking similar to Willie Harris’s 2004 season.

by shaftr on Feb 11, 2009 11:55 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

they're...evolving.
here’s another quasi-interesting clause in the deal: If Garland is traded this season and if he is a Type A free agent, his new team cannot offer him salary arbitration.

http://www.azcentral.com/members/Blog/NickPiecoro/45908

i’d expect to see stronger such clauses in the future.

our schtick is old

by larry on Feb 11, 2009 1:16 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

and Free Agency begins to get as complicated

as the Government Bailout/Stimulus/Not Really there pay no attention to the man behind the curtain Plan.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Feb 11, 2009 1:51 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, so what's your point larry

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Feb 11, 2009 1:57 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

...that's what the aforementioned clause achieves.

yo.

Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.

by colintj on Feb 11, 2009 2:04 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

larry, the priest will be over tonight, just remember to remain calm

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Feb 11, 2009 2:10 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

you better watch yourself.

that next chauffered sedan isn’t going to have ozzie in it.

our schtick is old

by larry on Feb 11, 2009 2:13 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Nice

Didn’t know you rode around in a chauffered Lincoln when you had people run over. I best find a new route home.

For some reason I picture you like Mr. Burns in The Simpsons…rubbing your fingers together:

larry: Quick Smithers. Bring the mind eraser device!
Smithers:You mean the revolver, sir?
larry: Precisely.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Feb 11, 2009 2:25 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

other than owens leading off an aj batting second

i actually like his projected order

But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.

by U-God on Feb 11, 2009 1:38 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

with abreu minus thome?

So, if I am reading the two options correctly . . .
we can either a) keep dye or b) trade dye . . . is that you Phil Rogers?

by jc2313 on Dec 11, 2008 4:53 PM CST up reply recommended Unrec 1

by Where Triples Go to Die on Feb 11, 2009 3:02 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

no. just add abreu. and manny. and ray durham. fuck. we could have a sweet offense with 12 guys in it.

"Still, there is considerable evidence that Mr. Williams was truly sick, including the fact that he has since died."

by larry on Feb 11, 2009 3:04 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

well...realistically

I wouldn’t mind bringing Durham back on a 1 year deal … Then if I could trade thome or dye, I would rather have manny than bobby take their spot… Ideally I would trade Thome and sign Manny to a 3 year deal to DH.

So, if I am reading the two options correctly . . .
we can either a) keep dye or b) trade dye . . . is that you Phil Rogers?

by jc2313 on Dec 11, 2008 4:53 PM CST up reply recommended Unrec 1

by Where Triples Go to Die on Feb 11, 2009 3:07 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

realistically, it's certainly a snap to trade thome and dye when dunn is getting paid $10M and abreu is getting $5Mish.

"Still, there is considerable evidence that Mr. Williams was truly sick, including the fact that he has since died."

by larry on Feb 11, 2009 3:28 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

realistically, in the sense if we are playing fantasy baseball here,

and the rules state you can only have 9 position players (not 12) playing at once…than this is the team I would like to construct.

So, if I am reading the two options correctly . . .
we can either a) keep dye or b) trade dye . . . is that you Phil Rogers?

by jc2313 on Dec 11, 2008 4:53 PM CST up reply recommended Unrec 1

by Where Triples Go to Die on Feb 11, 2009 3:33 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

never took you for an adherent of fantastic realism.

"Still, there is considerable evidence that Mr. Williams was truly sick, including the fact that he has since died."

by larry on Feb 11, 2009 3:35 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

durham
aj
ramirez
quentin
dye
paul k.
ramirez
fields
anderson/owens

So, if I am reading the two options correctly . . .
we can either a) keep dye or b) trade dye . . . is that you Phil Rogers?

by jc2313 on Dec 11, 2008 4:53 PM CST up reply recommended Unrec 1

by Where Triples Go to Die on Feb 11, 2009 3:24 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Ben Broussard

jump started this whole thing. First Broussard, then Abreu, then Dunn and soon to be OC.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Feb 11, 2009 1:53 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

wha?

D Cabrera and Crystal Lake’s own Scott Olsen might get them 300 strikeouts and 200 walks.

or vice versa

by e-gus on Feb 11, 2009 3:34 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

CLC?

or the other one?

Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.

by colintj on Feb 11, 2009 3:58 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

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