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White Sox vs. Padres Gamethread

Sox take on San Diego at 3:05 normal-time today

 

Here's a link to the live box score, there's no free video today.

 

Umpires: HP: David Rackley. 1B: Angel Campos. 2B: Chris Tiller. 3B: Casey Moser.
Weather: 80 degrees, sunny.
Wind: 1 mph, Varies.

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U the man.

the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST

by winningugly on Mar 13, 2009 2:38 PM CDT reply actions  

Line-ups:

Sox: Wise-CF, Nix-2B, Pierzynski-C, Konerko-1B, Fields-3B, Anderson-RF, Lillibridge-SS, Owens-LF, Floyd-P

Dads: Burke-SS, Rodriguez-3B, Giles-RF, Blanks-1B, Gerut-CF, Macias-LF, Hundley-C, Antonelli-2B, Young-P

But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.

by U-God on Mar 13, 2009 2:39 PM CDT reply actions  

I tell ya, U-God

this is a good crew we got out there today. I’m not naming names, but there are some crews, well, let’s just say I’m happy we got this crew out there today

by The Cheat on Mar 13, 2009 2:41 PM CDT reply actions  

i see why you hired this guy. very astute move.

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by larry on Mar 13, 2009 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

LITTLE ROCK, Ark. (AP) — Ten children at a day care center drank windshield wiper fluid after a staffer served it from a container mistaken for Kool-Aid and placed in a refrigerator, authorities said Friday. The day care owner surrendered her state license Friday.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/sns-ap-windshield-fluid-sickness,0,5187117.story

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by larry on Mar 13, 2009 3:15 PM CDT reply actions  

Welcome to my world

"...and when it comes to baseball, we have two favorite clubs: the Go-Go White Sox...and whoever plays the Cubs!!!"

by 815Sox on Mar 13, 2009 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks to all the young posters for educating me on Netspeak.

Our tech guy at work posted this term, with which I was unfamiliar until coming to SSS:

woot! Nothing if not professional.

the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST

by winningugly on Mar 13, 2009 3:18 PM CDT reply actions  

being grindy is dangerous
MESA, Ariz.—Cubs’ infielder Aaron Miles says his right shoulder “is just bruised” and that he expects to return very soon.

       “I dove into first base in a game over in Peoria,” he said. “It was just kind of jarred a little bit and was sore the next day. It’s a lot better and it shouldn’t be very long before I’m full tilt”

      A dive into first base?

       “It was a very awkward dive into first base, and probably unnecessary,” Miles said.“But it was just a reaction. I was trying to avoid the tag, not be Nick Punto.”

http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports_hardball/2009/03/cubs-infielder-aaron-miles-says-shoulder-not-serious.html

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by larry on Mar 13, 2009 3:22 PM CDT reply actions  

KONG!

1-0 Sox.

my president is white.

by JoeCoolMan24 on Mar 13, 2009 3:25 PM CDT reply actions  

buehrle
“That’s why I’m trying to throw too hard, because I feel too good,” Buehrle said. “Too much energy and adrenaline getting out there on the mound. I just need to settle down and focus on movement instead of trying to throw harder.”

http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=278477

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Mar 13, 2009 3:55 PM CDT reply actions  

Idiot.

Best current evidence points to the Big Rip in about 100 billion years, not the Big Squeeze. Jeez.

by BridgeportJoe on Mar 13, 2009 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

that only happens

when a team of brett favres plays against a team of brett favres

by blackoutsox on Mar 13, 2009 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow

Nice inning for the Sox.

Well, the HELL with this! I'm goin' home!

by HappyHuman on Mar 13, 2009 4:30 PM CDT reply actions  

Looks like BA is trying to play himself out of a position

Doesn’t he know he’s in AZ – shouldn’t he be hitting .400 – maybe Getz can play CF

Replacing "Chicago Tough" with "Cuban Pride"

by Brush Back on Mar 13, 2009 4:36 PM CDT reply actions  

please

CF is T-Flow’s to lose

But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.

by U-God on Mar 13, 2009 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

what about Nix?

Anyone know enough about his skill set.

by shaftr on Mar 13, 2009 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

nevermind

minor league track record suggests 2nd, 3rd & dh.

by shaftr on Mar 13, 2009 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks for playing, alleged asst. editor/Cheat's gay lover.

GOT to be the only reason for the title, Shaftr. Got to be.

the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST

by winningugly on Mar 13, 2009 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Didn't you know he was

trying the opposite approach this year? Crappy spring training so he can hit during the regular season . . . keep up with these things please!!

by jc2313 on Mar 13, 2009 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wise continues to strengthen his grasp on the leadoff job, homering in the fifth inning. 17 minutes ago

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by larry on Mar 13, 2009 4:57 PM CDT reply actions  

Leadoff guys shouldn't hit homers.

EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine

by Sox Machine on Mar 13, 2009 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

i don't think he was leading off that inning.

remember, ozzie said they need to be able to hit the ball hard and in the clutch and stuff when they’re not leading off.

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by larry on Mar 13, 2009 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

it says something about the padres

when our c team mops up their A team, reminds me of this

Home Depot Criticized For Pledging $10 Billion To American Cancer Society For Every Padres Home Run
 
SAN DIEGO—Home Depot has come under fire from cancer patients, baseball fans, and Padres players for the company’s recent “heartless and insulting” offer to donate “$10 billion in cash” to the American Cancer Society each time a Padres player hits a home run for the rest of the 2006 season. “This outrageous offer of ‘charity’ is a slap in the face to our organization,” said Jay Czarnecki, a spokesman for the ACS. “Having your donation depend upon a San Diego player hitting a baseball over 300 feet through the air is not only placing unfair and unrealistic expectations on the Padres, but is equivalent to telling everyone who has cancer to go off and die.” Czarnecki suggested that, if Home Depot truly supports the research and eradication of a disease that kills millions of Americans every year, they should pledge a dollar for each time a Padre strikes out or commits an error.

by blackoutsox on Mar 13, 2009 5:03 PM CDT reply actions  

just a suggestion

throw a link up under the block when you use block quotes

But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.

by U-God on Mar 13, 2009 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

heres the link

http://www.theonion.com/content/node/49527

but how do you mark it as a “link” because i dont like copying and pasting, takes up too much room

by blackoutsox on Mar 13, 2009 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

you type any word

highlight the word and click the link icon

But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.

by U-God on Mar 13, 2009 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

you have to copy and paste either way.

and i think it’s better for us to actually see the source on the screen. links generally don’t take up much room anyway.

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by larry on Mar 13, 2009 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

you are improving

its a good thing

But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.

by U-God on Mar 13, 2009 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

i wonder if matt will show up to talk about

jay czarnecki. i’ll pass for now.

how much to the have to pay the Players -- that's what she said -- of the league like BA?

by colintj on Mar 14, 2009 1:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hey larry: was Cheat taking a shot at the day crew? Meaning us?

If so, what’s he mean? Why is he mean? What is the mean?
Back to my gin.

"I never had sex with that Governor" -
Roland Burris

by Chiburb on Mar 13, 2009 5:33 PM CDT reply actions  

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Mar 13, 2009 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

FIAL x2

the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST

by winningugly on Mar 13, 2009 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

no

I posted what I intended to post

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Mar 13, 2009 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh. Whoosh for me.

the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST

by winningugly on Mar 13, 2009 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

my goodness

did MacDougal really pitch a full ininng with 2 SO’s?

by blackoutsox on Mar 13, 2009 5:59 PM CDT reply actions  

kenny digs hitting breaking balls to right-center field
Sox general manager Kenny Williams was asked about the possibility before the Sox’ 6-2 Cactus League victory over the Milwaukee Brewers. Would he consider taking a chance on a player with so little pro experience?

“Sure, if he’s the best guy to take,” Williams told the Daily Herald. “You can say 14 minor-league games, but I saw him play in the Arizona Fall League, and that’s a Double-A league. If you dominate in that league, you can play in the big leagues.”

Beckham, 22, batted .394 with 3 home runs and 13 RBI in 18 games in the AFL. Following an All-American career at the University of Georgia, the infielder hit .310 with 3 HR and 8 RBI with Kannapolis.

“I’m not putting any restrictions on whether this guy will or won’t be part of the team,” Williams said. “We’re taking the best.”

Needless to say, Beckham is making quite an impression on the White Sox’ GM.

“There are certain things, certain positions you get in as a hitter, certain things you are able to do,” Williams said. "For instance, driving the ball hard to right-center field, that’s an indicator you are able to stand in and take a good crisp breaking ball and have a chance to do some damage.

“But at the end of the day it’ll be what (manager) Ozzie (Guillen) likes as a fit in his lineup.”

At the beginning of the week, Guillen also gave Beckham a strong endorsement.

“I love making decisions like that,” said Guillen, who broke in with the Sox at 21. “I’m not afraid to play the kids; I’m not afraid to give those guys a chance as long as they know they can do this.”

Watching Beckham deliver again Wednesday apparently swayed Guillen even more.

“He’s got a lot of confidence now, and that’s the key,” Guillen said. “He’s good and he knows what he’s doing.”

http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=278476

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Mar 13, 2009 6:42 PM CDT reply actions  

Beckham vs Getz

Who do you think should be our starting second baseman? And if Beckham makes the roster, and starts naturally, shouldn’t he be our lead off hitter?

by onlysoxfaninboston on Mar 13, 2009 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

yes getz, I'm a believer of cheat's getz assessment

as far as the leadoff hitter question I don’t know, we don’t see the other sluggers we have hitting leadoff and beckham seems to have enough pop…

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Mar 13, 2009 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Getz.

Let Beckham start in the minors. If he tears it up for a few months and Getz is playing well, move Ramirez to CF and let Beckham play short.

"I am not going out like SSH. "
by WTGTD, 12/3/08

by ballyb on Mar 13, 2009 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gee, no one is talking about Smoak these days...

the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST

by winningugly on Mar 13, 2009 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

from sickels q&a

sickels:

rank

Smoak
G Beckham
Hosmer
Matusz
Holland
T Beckham

don’t like mixing hitters with pitchers. Two different species.

2010 Top 5….

Pedro Alvarez
Lars Anderson
Neftali Feliz
Rick Porcello
Justin Smoak.

http://www.minorleagueball.com/2009/3/6/783347/all-questions-answered-thr

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Mar 13, 2009 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

cuban pipeline
Q. How crucial of a role does Jose Contreras really play in aiding Alexei Ramirez and Dayan Viciedo?

Gregor: If Jose Contreras and Orlando “El Duque” Hernandez weren’t with the White Sox, Ramirez is probably playing for the Oakland A’s now (they offered more money) and Viciedo would likely be with one of the New York teams.

Hernandez is gone, but Contreras’ presence has been invaluable in helping the White Sox keep the Cuban pipeline open.

Ozzie also deserves a lot of credit, because there is no language barrier.

http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=278610

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Mar 13, 2009 6:46 PM CDT reply actions  

and we have a frontrunner
After Dewayne Wise hit a home run and drove in four runs Friday, manager Ozzie Guillen couldn’t avoid the obvious.

“I think right now, he looks better than the other guys,” Guillen said after Wise helped the Sox cruise to a 15-4 win and bolster his chances at becoming the Sox’s leadoff hitter. “If this continues, we have to make a decision. Right now, we still have a few games, but I think he looks better than the rest.”

http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports_hardball/2009/03/white-soxs-friday-recap-wise-the-leader-at-the-leadoff-spot.html

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Mar 13, 2009 8:16 PM CDT reply actions  

more leadoff stuff
"Our whole offensive plan centers around getting that pitcher into that deep pitch count as quickly as possible and getting that starter out of the game,‘’ White Sox general manager Ken Williams said. "Now, there are a lot of good teams that don’t have the traditional Rickey Henderson leadoff guy, and they’re successful. We’ve had to make do without one. But I’m going to keep working on it.‘’

’’It’s still early,‘’ Guillen said. ’’Owens, he’s improved a lot the last week and a half. Wise is the one that is swinging the bat real well out of that leadoff spot. We’ve put Beckham out there just to get at-bats. We hope we have the leadoff hitter we should have. That doesn’t mean we won’t go to Plan B or C.

‘’We wish we had the ideal one. It could be Owens, it could be Wise, we don’t care. Just go out there and do what a leadoff hitter does and give me something to start with. Our middle lineup is good, and a leadoff hitter will be a big part of our game.’’

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/1474764,CST-SPT-sox13.article

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Mar 13, 2009 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Getz going
Chris Getz still is the leading candidate to open the season as the White Sox’ starting second baseman.

In Thursday’s 9-3 exhibition loss to the Royals on Thursday, Getz (.304) was 1-for-2 with a walk. He also played a solid defensive game.

“Getz is getting into the groove,” manager Ozzie Guillen said.

Getz batted eighth against Kansas City. He’d likely stay at the bottom of the order if he breaks camp with the Sox.

“I’d rather for him to be like (Alexei) Ramirez, you know just stay down there (in the lineup), don’t put too much pressure on himself, make the plays, that’s what I expect from second base,” Ozzie Guillen said. “Just go up there and do your job.”

http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=278796

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Mar 13, 2009 8:27 PM CDT reply actions  

bp
Last week I noted that Nate Silver expanded upon Bill James’ initial work on aging patterns to show that hitters tend to peak between ages 25 and 29, cresting at 26 and 27, with some understandable variations by position. Speed-based players like middle infielders and center fielders peak toward the earlier side of that range, while catchers develop more slowly, and third basemen, who tend to be slower and thicker, peak later and retain a larger share of their value over a longer period of time.

Nate’s findings mesh with another concept that James introduced to the masses in the 1982 Baseball Abstract, the existence of a defensive spectrum which runs like so:

1B—LF—RF—3B—CF—2B—SS—C

The positions at the left end of the spectrum are easier to defend, but carry higher offensive demands, while the positions to the right prioritize defensive skill over hitting ability. Note how well the 2008 Equivalent Averages by position match up with that spectrum:


Pos EqA
1B .283
LF .276
RF .276
3B .270
CF .268
2B .264
SS .255
 C .252

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Mar 13, 2009 8:46 PM CDT reply actions  

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=8614

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Mar 14, 2009 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Farm system value rankings (Part 2)
15. Chicago White Sox, NPV: $75.89 million

Top 100 Prospects: Gordan Beckham (26), Aaron Poreda (56), Tyler Flowers (80), Dayan Viciedo (91)
The White Sox have done a pretty good job of restocking their farm system, though they still could use some more depth. However, they appear to be in a contending while trying to get younger stage, which can be quite difficult to execute successfully. The White Sox might be at the point where it’s best to just head in one direction.

http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/farm-system-value-rankings-part-2/

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by The Wizard on Mar 13, 2009 8:50 PM CDT reply actions  

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