Oakland Signs Orlando Cabrera, White Sox Receive Sandwich and 2nd Round Picks
by larry on Mar 2, 2009 1:27 PM CST
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The Oakland Athletics signed Orlando Cabrera to a 1 year, $4 Million contract. 
The White Sox will receive a supplemental first round pick (a/k/a sandwich pick) and Oakland's second round pick due to Cabrera's status as a Type A free agent who declined arbitration. The picks in the 2009 Draft are currently #38 and #61 but both could change if Manny Ramirez and/or Ben Sheets sign with a team other than the Dodgers and Brewers, respectively, prior to the draft and/or the latter pick could change if one of the remaining Type Bs sign with other teams.
This signing marks the closing of the book on the Cabrera-Jon Garland swap of last offseason. The White Sox were clear winners in the exchange of 1 year rentals, as Cabrera provided above average defense at a premium position, while Garland slid further into mediocrity, all at a dollar cost $4.5 million less than Garland. Further, Garland was a Type B free agent and will provide only a supplemental pick to the Angels (a pick which is also after the White Sox' supplemental pick).
After declining arbitration from the White Sox - a decision which meant foregoing a contract of $10 million or more (albeit non-guaranteed and with Kenny telling him he'd be on the bench) - Cabrera likely believed he would receive more than the two year, $18 million contract Edgar Renteria signed with the Giants in November. Despite what must be his obvious disappointment, Cabrera attempts to put lipstick on the pig known as his contract:
"That's a lot of money. A lot of money," he said of his $4 million contract. "It's an honor. I grew up watching (Oakland greats) Rickey Henderson, Carney Lansford and (Mark) McGwire.
Cabrera said he and his wife plan to drive from their home in South Carolina to the A's spring training camp in Phoenix.
"It's going to be fun. Giambi is one of my buddies."
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lame
But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.
by U-God on Mar 2, 2009 1:32 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
What does this mean as far as the draft pick goes?
Also, I would’ve liked to keep him around at that price. Oh well.
by Crede's Crew on Mar 2, 2009 1:34 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
sox get a's 2nd round pick and a supplemental. Obvs not the 1st rounder we all hoped for.
by madvillian on Mar 2, 2009 1:35 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
damn you larry
this wasn’t on the front page when i clicked “New FanShot.” guess i should’ve been quicker.
by Ryno on Mar 2, 2009 1:38 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Still a better return that what the Angels got for Garland, correct?
Also, kudos to Orca’s agent for putting the pressure on the A’s by playing the Blue Jays card. Asshole.
You are right. But larry is actually a prick too.
- HSA 01/07/09
by rhythm on Mar 2, 2009 1:43 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
fuckinaye.
oh well. at least the saga’s over.
how much to the have to pay the Players -- that's what she said -- of the league like BA?
by colintj on Mar 2, 2009 1:44 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I think it will be 37 and about 65 (ten ahead of Sox second rounder)
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by The Cheat on Mar 2, 2009 1:48 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
white sox record last year was in between jays and brewers.
1A starts at 33. ibanez (seattle), fuentes (colo), hudson (ariz), lowe (LA), and burnett (jays) gets me to cabrera (white sox) at #38.
as for the second round, not sure.
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by larry on Mar 2, 2009 1:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I haven't looked in about a month
they had us 38 as well, but with Manny in there so, I subtracted one because he’s signing w/ LA
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by The Cheat on Mar 2, 2009 2:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He is?
What are the numbers?
the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST
by winningugly on Mar 2, 2009 2:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
wait
Supplementals are based on the Elias rankings, not record, right?
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by The Cheat on Mar 2, 2009 2:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
no, it's not.
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by larry on Mar 2, 2009 2:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
my fault,
it is reverse order of win/loss for the supplemental round
by jc2313 on Mar 2, 2009 2:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
don't ever go against the family.
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by larry on Mar 2, 2009 2:26 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
omerta, motherfucker.
i knew you were going to drop the hammer on those two.
how much to the have to pay the Players -- that's what she said -- of the league like BA?
by colintj on Mar 2, 2009 2:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
One of my favorite lines
used on myself, well done.
by jc2313 on Mar 2, 2009 2:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Stop referencing obsure art house movies
No one watches that shit.
Confusion breeds success. If they don't know each other, opponents can't have strategy. GENIUS.
by Ozzie Montana on Mar 2, 2009 3:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
rec'd
great quote, great movie
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Mar 2, 2009 7:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
As it stands now, they get the 38th overall pick and the 63rd pick, according to a source.
http://blogs.dailyherald.com/node/1536
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by The Cheat on Mar 2, 2009 3:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
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by larry on Mar 2, 2009 3:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
nice looking sandwich
my Prime Minister is a boss eyed wanker
by hoodlight on Mar 2, 2009 4:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
ITALIAN SANDWICH
Smoked Turkey Breast, Ham, Salami, Provolone Cheese, Roasted Red Peppers, Shredded Iceberg Lettuce, And Sliced Tomato On A Hoagie Roll.
Cashing checks and having sex.
by MarketMaker on Mar 2, 2009 10:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Nice looking sandwich!
Somewhere Edgar Renteria is laughing his ass off.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Mar 2, 2009 1:53 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Game today?
Rumor is the game today is free online. True?
by iachifan on Mar 2, 2009 2:04 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
yes
free on mlbtv. bill melton doing the color.
brian anderson would've caught that...
by BuehrleMan on Mar 2, 2009 2:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
cool.
2 picks instead of possibly nothing is fine with me.
For $4 mil. thats a nice deal for the white elephants.
good riddance to the most infuriating Sox player I can recall.
Gordon Beckham 1.760 OPS so far this spring
by e-gus on Mar 2, 2009 2:05 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
"good riddance to the most infuriating Sox player I can recall."
And where the fuck have you been?
by Daniel Berlyn on Mar 2, 2009 2:06 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
i found swisher quite a bit more infuriating.
brian anderson would've caught that...
by BuehrleMan on Mar 2, 2009 2:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Jaimie Navarro used to piss me off
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Mar 2, 2009 2:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
George Bell used to get my goat when I was like 8 years old, dude sucked for us
by madvillian on Mar 2, 2009 2:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
George Bell used to nail my goat, too.
Horny b@st@rd.
the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST
by winningugly on Mar 2, 2009 2:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
darin erstad is my no. 1
fuckin beard
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Mar 2, 2009 3:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I am still baffled by this thinking.
It seems to me like this opinion mainly stems from calling to complain about being given an error. As if he’s just being egotistical and his future paychecks don’t depend on his numbers.
Settle down with the designer stats. This isn’t fucking algebra, it’s baseball..
by defensive indifference on Mar 2, 2009 2:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Damasco Marte, Lance Broadway,
any of the ’07 pen, Lerrin LaGrow, Ron LeFlore, Todd Ritchie, Canseco, BA in 2006-08, etc.
The Sox have had numerous players over the years who have been bigger lunkheads/rally killers/wastes of space than Cabrera. We got good value out of him.
the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST
by winningugly on Mar 2, 2009 2:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Why canseco... he was good in 2001.
and Damaso Marte.. I wish we had him til this day.
Rob Mackowiak, Todd Ritchie, Jamie Navarro, Phil Bradley, Scott Ruffcorn, Steve Sax, Chris Sabo….. all much more irritating than Cabrera.
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Mar 2, 2009 2:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Marte at the end of his time with us was completely infuriating. Like Politte.
Canseco was/is a boob.
Agree with Sax/Sabo, etc.
the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST
by winningugly on Mar 2, 2009 2:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
hmmm
additive to those already listed…Podsenik, Jim Parque
by southsideirish on Mar 2, 2009 2:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Canseco is one of my favorites.
gotta disagree.
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Mar 2, 2009 4:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You are a lunatic.
Go to your juice bar, jucie boy.
the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST
by winningugly on Mar 2, 2009 4:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Jeez, don't bust out your A-material all in one thread
Confusion breeds success. If they don't know each other, opponents can't have strategy. GENIUS.
by Ozzie Montana on Mar 2, 2009 4:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The only Sox jersey I wear is a Canseco #31 edition.
EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine
by Sox Machine on Mar 2, 2009 4:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I am so worried about you.
Maybe you should’ve called your book “White Sox :Juiced” and you’d sell a few more copies.
the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST
by winningugly on Mar 2, 2009 4:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i told him to put tits on the cover.
but nooooooooooo.
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by larry on Mar 2, 2009 4:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Mine aren't that impressive
EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine
by Sox Machine on Mar 2, 2009 6:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
IIRC SSH said they were positively Mickelsonesque.
the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST
by winningugly on Mar 2, 2009 6:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
gotta disagree you old SOB
Along with the pleasure of seeing Ken Griffey Jr in a Sox jersey…. I also enjoyed Jose’s time as well. 
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Mar 2, 2009 8:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
swing and a miss. he gone!
So, if I am reading the two options correctly . . .
we can either a) keep dye or b) trade dye . . . is that you Phil Rogers?
by jc2313 on Dec 11, 2008 4:53 PM CST up reply recommended Unrec 1
by Where Triples Go to Die on Mar 3, 2009 10:16 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
When Clayton Richard tries to throw to first
I tend to find the result infuriating
by billyok on Mar 2, 2009 3:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Those are still good picks to have
The more picks you can accumulate in the top 100 of the MLB draft… the more your chances at finding a stud. Sure they aren’t in the top 25.. but still. not bad
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by KenWo4LiFe on Mar 2, 2009 2:20 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
KW posts a victory on this trade
Maybe not a flawless victory, but one nonetheless.
White Sox: Trying to roll a hard six.
by vince_ on Mar 2, 2009 2:31 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
with the Sox recent scouting record looking up
i think this’ll help significantly in getting back what was lost in Swisher. i know KW is already over it, but it’s harder for me to get past DLS/Gio/Sweeney—>Marquez/Nunez/Betemit. hopefully Marquez has a legit heater.
how much to the have to pay the Players -- that's what she said -- of the league like BA?
by colintj on Mar 2, 2009 2:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm w/ KW on this one
I think Nunez could be a good reliever and I am not mourning the 3 we lost, particularly due to DLS’ injury. I could live easily w/o the other 2.
by Crede's Crew on Mar 2, 2009 2:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
if Masset's reported:actual velocity is any indication of what Marquez's will be
his heat will be a tick above 87
by Daniel Berlyn on Mar 2, 2009 2:42 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
you're on a roll.
how much to the have to pay the Players -- that's what she said -- of the league like BA?
by colintj on Mar 2, 2009 2:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Confusion breeds success. If they don't know each other, opponents can't have strategy. GENIUS.
by Ozzie Montana on Mar 2, 2009 4:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Don't know if it's been posted elsewhere
but MLB Network showing 1959 world series highlights at 4:30 eastern
by Crede's Crew on Mar 2, 2009 2:41 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Thanks.
I’m heading home now to see it.
the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST
by winningugly on Mar 2, 2009 2:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
watch out for mothra
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by larry on Mar 2, 2009 2:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No prob
I’m waiting for their white sox feature in the 30 clubs in 30 days series
by Crede's Crew on Mar 2, 2009 2:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
OMG LIVE BASEBALL
how much to the have to pay the Players -- that's what she said -- of the league like BA?
by colintj on Mar 2, 2009 2:50 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
i know colin isn't it craaaaaazy
takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm
by furby2056 on Mar 2, 2009 3:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
the benefit of waking up before 7 p.m.
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Mar 2, 2009 3:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Dave Cameron
In total, Cabrera should be about a +1 win upgrade over Crosby at shortstop for the A’s. Given their new roster, you can bump the A’s up to 82 or 83 projected wins, but they’re still a couple of games behind the Angels.
Is that win worth $4 million and a second round draft pick? Probably. The marginal value of wins rises significantly as a team gets close to playoff contention – the revenues generated from playing in October are significant to every organization. The A’s still aren’t the favorites in the AL West, but they’re not that far behind the Angels, and this move gives them one more weapon to try to bring down the Angels.
For $4 million and a second round pick, it’s a gamble worth taking.
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/as-sign-cabrera/
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Mar 2, 2009 9:55 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Fielding Bible
Now seems like a good time to bust out some quotes from John Dewan’s awesome new Fielding Bible Volume II. Here’s his opinion on Cabrera’s defense:
“Cabrera is a fundamentally sound shortstop who plays with a lot of energy and does everything well. He has above-average range and makes a lot of sliding plays, but he also led all shortstops in 2008 in defensive misplays (56).”
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2009/03/as-sign-orlando.html
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Mar 2, 2009 10:33 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
ocab
i like the motherfucker, he had tremendous moxie for his size. he moved to boston approximately when i did, august 1st 2004. without ocab, the red sox don’t win the series in 2004. i don’t think the white sox would have won the division in 2008 without him either, but maybe colin’s spreadsheets tell a different story. he could’ve stayed, i wouldn’t have bitched. all ya’ll who say otherwise are haters, or are insecure about holding on to their wives.
he may not have the money, but at least he can always relish the fact that he slept with joe cowley’s wife, nobody can take that away from him. i wish him luck.
by onlysoxfaninboston on Mar 3, 2009 12:11 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
i think that just made this worthy of the cowley's wife tag
But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.
by U-God on Mar 3, 2009 9:44 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
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