Carlos Quentin Community Projection Results
The Carlos Quentin projection was easily our most consistent effort so far. I only had to throw out one entry -- somebody who thought Q! would slug .340 while hitting 35 HR -- and as you can see by the spread from the standard deviations, there wasn't a whole lot of variation overall.
My own projection looks a lot like the low entry. I think Q! is gonna have a rough first half.
Full spreadsheet available here. Thoughts?
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Is there going to be a next post in this series?
But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.
only sss would need more than one post for a Q! community projection
Colon "toes" nothing. That implies a nimbleness akin to a Nureyev. I beleive he "platypussed" the shit out of that mound.
-winningugly
you misinterpret my question
But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.
you worded it improperly
Colon "toes" nothing. That implies a nimbleness akin to a Nureyev. I beleive he "platypussed" the shit out of that mound.
-winningugly
no i didn't
this isn’t the first community projection of the off-season, it has been a series. i asked if there would be another post.
But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.
since there was already more than one post for Q!, asking for another post without
naming it generally implies you are referrring to the previous
example, as the car drove around the building, it blew up.
what blew up, the car or the building, no one will know.
Colon "toes" nothing. That implies a nimbleness akin to a Nureyev. I beleive he "platypussed" the shit out of that mound.
-winningugly
once again
there were multiple posts for each player in the series so far. go back and look at them.
But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.
if there were really multiple posts for every player and not just Q!,
then i concede, but im not gonna check cause im too lazy
Colon "toes" nothing. That implies a nimbleness akin to a Nureyev. I beleive he "platypussed" the shit out of that mound.
-winningugly
Fields Results, Fields Opener, Che Results, Che Opener, Getz Results, Getz Opener
But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.
i believe the proper term is unclear antecedents
Colon "toes" nothing. That implies a nimbleness akin to a Nureyev. I beleive he "platypussed" the shit out of that mound.
-winningugly
you're wearing on me.
when a substantial amount of your posts are “fial” and nitpicking language, you’re doing this SSS posting thing wrong.
is he?
He also doesn’t care much for me, so I expect me posting on these things to piss him off.
by U-God on Feb 27, 2009 10:00 AM CST
by Where Triples Go to Die on Mar 26, 2009 8:09 AM CDT up reply actions
That's splendid. And as a language nitpicker, I do understand to what ambiguity you are referencing - it's actually called ambiguous antecedent, based on your example.
However, I’m pretty certain that Cheat (for whom this question was intended) would understand U-God’s question, just as I did and I’m sure others did too.
It’s a bit unnecessary for you to pounce on posters about language inconsistencies (I don’t even think this even falls into the ambiguous antecedent category anyhow) just because you personally feel it’s not written properly.
This is advice….I’d take it before larry is unleashed.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Mar 25, 2009 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
im sorry
i dont mean to bring any of you down
i can tell there is a lot of work put in this site and i respect that
Colon "toes" nothing. That implies a nimbleness akin to a Nureyev. I beleive he "platypussed" the shit out of that mound.
-winningugly
No worries.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Mar 25, 2009 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Also, if we didn't already know that last statement of yours, you'd be to the sharks by now. So that's a good sign.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Mar 25, 2009 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Like Judas Priest Unleashed.
(And then you find out they’re fronted by a poof.)
Sweet, I better start upping the suck.
by homesickalien on Mar 24, 2009 4:52 PM EDT
i bet you were surprised about Liberace too, huh
I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.
by thatshortkid on Mar 25, 2009 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions
I did not see that coming.
Sweet, I better start upping the suck.
by homesickalien on Mar 24, 2009 4:52 PM EDT
i was supposed to be in that poof!
I can lead you to 4 Wisdom, but I can't free your brain from the evil of Punto.
struck out again at the bars last weekend, huh
I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.
by thatshortkid on Mar 25, 2009 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions
they were going to make me into a bisque to feed the troops
I can lead you to 4 Wisdom, but I can't free your brain from the evil of Punto.
You've been drinking tonight, yes?
Sweet, I better start upping the suck.
by homesickalien on Mar 24, 2009 4:52 PM EDT
Arrested Development whooooosh. Your personal favorite!
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Mar 25, 2009 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Spent too much time reading the Bob Loblaw Law Blog
Twitter: @SouthSideCheat
SouthSideSox on Facebook
by The Cheat on Mar 25, 2009 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I highly recommend this.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Mar 25, 2009 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Killing my soul, BOS...killing my soul.....
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Mar 25, 2009 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions
forgive me for not knowing
but what is std dev?
Colon "toes" nothing. That implies a nimbleness akin to a Nureyev. I beleive he "platypussed" the shit out of that mound.
-winningugly
standard deviation
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_deviation
But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.
so you have no problem with unclear antecedents
but standard deviation gives you fits?
I can lead you to 4 Wisdom, but I can't free your brain from the evil of Punto.
The skills that make one good with sentence structure and good with statistics are very different
Yawn.
by reardenmettle on Mar 25, 2009 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions
and i possess both in spades! what luck!
I can lead you to 4 Wisdom, but I can't free your brain from the evil of Punto.
Must have been an English major
"You might be impressed with your analysis, but I am not. Stop wasting my time." - Chris De Luca
ooo thanks
Colon "toes" nothing. That implies a nimbleness akin to a Nureyev. I beleive he "platypussed" the shit out of that mound.
-winningugly
cheat, is it the projection minus the SD that's been similar to other projection systems for the other players?
by onlysoxfaninboston on Mar 25, 2009 6:05 PM CDT reply actions
iirc, there's a -5% rule for adjusting per Cheat.
it’s def not the SD. waaay too much.
I can lead you to 4 Wisdom, but I can't free your brain from the evil of Punto.
but it doesn't seem that ridiculous in this case because most projections systems i thought were taking injury history into account
but i think you’re right, 5%…
by onlysoxfaninboston on Mar 25, 2009 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions
it doesn't seem ridiculous in this case
because of the seriously high level of agreement from those who voted.
I can lead you to 4 Wisdom, but I can't free your brain from the evil of Punto.
502 ABs, WU, you think he's gonna miss playing time?
by onlysoxfaninboston on Mar 25, 2009 6:06 PM CDT reply actions
not as much as that anonymous person at the end thinks
But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.
Sure.
All those HBP will add up, to the extent that one might find a hand, ala BJ Upton.
Sweet, I better start upping the suck.
by homesickalien on Mar 24, 2009 4:52 PM EDT
The sheep in the flock have scattered...
no one had enough faith to predict a 1.000 OPS?
He will smite us all.
apparently i topped Cheat by 10 pts in every triple slash category
and UG was pretty much on average. also: JBasic won this last year and is more or less keeping his prediction from last season intact.
I can lead you to 4 Wisdom, but I can't free your brain from the evil of Punto.
there's a ton of community agreement about Q! though.
iiiiiinteresting.
I can lead you to 4 Wisdom, but I can't free your brain from the evil of Punto.
thanks
i didn’t want to point it out myself. this was also the first time i actually sat down and calculated out the slash stats instead of just making something up. obama4cntrfld was really close, but his numbers don’t make sense.
But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.
it takes forever to do that shit by hand
i wish cheat would just do slash line, PAs and maybe HR. but i’m of that confounded new school.
I can lead you to 4 Wisdom, but I can't free your brain from the evil of Punto.
idk, it was kinda fun
But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.
i always screw up arithmetic
I can lead you to 4 Wisdom, but I can't free your brain from the evil of Punto.
and yet you have spades of knowledge in the field of stats?
Colon "toes" nothing. That implies a nimbleness akin to a Nureyev. I beleive he "platypussed" the shit out of that mound.
-winningugly
there's a difference in knowing how to calculate something and actually being able to do it
colin knows more about baseball stats than just about everyone on here. he masturbates to numbers. you might want to lay off the attacks (even if you’re just kidding) until you are a little more established around here. you aren’t off to a very stellar start.
But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.
*numbers and midgets
I can lead you to 4 Wisdom, but I can't free your brain from the evil of Punto.
but of course
But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.
Contributing to the discussion = ftl
petulance is far more productive
Yawn.
by reardenmettle on Mar 25, 2009 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions
you tell him, steve-dave!
I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.
by thatshortkid on Mar 25, 2009 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions
doesn't your copy of excel add for you?
I can lead you to 4 Wisdom, but I can't free your brain from the evil of Punto.
and if it's not obvious, this projected line
would make Q! one of the best hitters in the game.
I can lead you to 4 Wisdom, but I can't free your brain from the evil of Punto.
thanks again for the book
finished it this morning. good stuff.
But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.
No larry, no HSA, no TAEG?
WTF?
Sweet, I better start upping the suck.
by homesickalien on Mar 24, 2009 4:52 PM EDT
I was busy making sandwiches...
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Mar 25, 2009 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions
No MM, either.
What a DB.
Sweet, I better start upping the suck.
by homesickalien on Mar 24, 2009 4:52 PM EDT
He ain't going to show on 5/22 either. Book it.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Mar 25, 2009 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah because without what that guy knows about baseball
we are surely screwed.
I can lead you to 4 Wisdom, but I can't free your brain from the evil of Punto.
Colon is scheduled to pitch Monday, but Cooper hasn’t decided whether he will pitch against the Los Angeles Angels or in a minor league game. Colon wouldn’t declare whether he was ready to join the starting rotation. The Sox need a fifth starter on April 11, and Colon and Jose Contreras are scheduled to pitch April 4 against Arizona in the final exhibition game.
“We’ll see next outing,” Colon said.
Colon said his elbow felt fine, and his change-up was effective. He admitted feeling a little timid in throwing his slider.
..
Colon’s status will affect the rest of the staff. If he is ready, left-hander Clayton Richard will move to the bullpen and leave only one spot open (assuming D.J. Carrasco makes the squad). Left-hander Randy Williams hasn’t allowed a run in nine of 10 spring outings, and he’s scheduled for work Friday, Saturday and or Sunday.
Jack Egbert and Mike MacDougal also are in the mix.
And it appears that Chris Getz will bat second, as he’s scheduled to hit in that spot for the third consecutive game on Thursday against Arizona’s Brandon Webb.
i like getz at second
i think we will see a lot of 2 run homers this year
Colon "toes" nothing. That implies a nimbleness akin to a Nureyev. I beleive he "platypussed" the shit out of that mound.
-winningugly
you and everyone else that realized we have no other options.
He also doesn’t care much for me, so I expect me posting on these things to piss him off.
by U-God on Feb 27, 2009 10:00 AM CST
by Where Triples Go to Die on Mar 26, 2009 8:13 AM CDT up reply actions
i also think that Egbert should have the fifth spot in the rotation
He has pitched just as well as Richard,
Richard could fill in a lefty spot in the bull pen,
and Egbert could prevent a rotation consisting of four southpaws assuming Poreda replaces Contreras next year.
Colon "toes" nothing. That implies a nimbleness akin to a Nureyev. I beleive he "platypussed" the shit out of that mound.
-winningugly
unhealthy Colon < Egbert
He also doesn’t care much for me, so I expect me posting on these things to piss him off.
by U-God on Feb 27, 2009 10:00 AM CST
by Where Triples Go to Die on Mar 26, 2009 8:14 AM CDT up reply actions
Former Sox (Waste of a) First-Round Pick Released
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2009/03/royce-ring-placed-on-waivers.html
But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.
Damn I didnt think I was going to have the highest HBP.
It's like he's a cyborg sent from the future to draw 22 walks a season or something.
by omnipotent grab on Mar 25, 2009 8:39 PM CDT reply actions
coxsie
This philosophical tidbit from 3B Coach Jeff Cox today:
“If at first you don’t succeed, don’t try skydiving.”
http://whitesoxpride.mlblogs.com/archives/2009/03/dog_days_of_spring.html
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
I would like to see Jerry Owens
go sky diving
at his rate of success, who knows what might happen?
Colon "toes" nothing. That implies a nimbleness akin to a Nureyev. I beleive he "platypussed" the shit out of that mound.
-winningugly
LOL
Hey, he was a decent football player…should’ve stuck to that
by Crede's Crew on Mar 25, 2009 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Q! re: Fantasy drafts
Are any of you guys picking him?
I haven’t so far in 2 leagues and I have my final draft Sunday. It’s with a lot of BoSox Masshole fans, so I bet they are expecting me to take him. Not to speak against his greatness, but I don’t know about using a second rd pick on him
tough call.
he was going to be the american league MVP pretty much as a rookie.
He also doesn’t care much for me, so I expect me posting on these things to piss him off.
by U-God on Feb 27, 2009 10:00 AM CST
by Where Triples Go to Die on Mar 26, 2009 8:39 AM CDT up reply actions
Lack of track record and the injury are scaring me
There are a lot more proven guys in the same range.
Guess I’m just risk averse in the early rounds
by Crede's Crew on Mar 26, 2009 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions
confirmation straight from our savior's mouth.
Beckham started hot but cooled off to finish with a .270 batting average. He said he would start the 2009 season as the shortstop at Double-A Birmingham.
so Q! is more of a prophet in this theology?
I can lead you to 4 Wisdom, but I can't free your brain from the evil of Punto.
i missed that sermon
i had to fix mrs. cowley’s plumbing that day.
I can lead you to 4 Wisdom, but I can't free your brain from the evil of Punto.
there is only 1 prophet
His name is Roman.
He also doesn’t care much for me, so I expect me posting on these things to piss him off.
by U-God on Feb 27, 2009 10:00 AM CST
by Where Triples Go to Die on Mar 26, 2009 8:40 AM CDT up reply actions
Got some autographs today.
Autographs from The Bridge, Harold, and Floyd. Jerry Owens wrote his name on something of mine.
Also, I went to go check out the fields beyond Camelback, and I found the Indians and Dodgers playing 2 games of minor league ball. Saw a couple people I thought were major leaguers (at some point), and exchanged plesentries with Tommy LaSorda as he drove past in his golfcart.
my president is white.
*Jerry Owens wrote his name on something of mine and instantly devalued it.
fixed.
I can lead you to 4 Wisdom, but I can't free your brain from the evil of Punto.
over troubled water
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Mar 26, 2009 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions
over the river kwai
But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.
to terabithia
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Mar 26, 2009 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions

I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.
by thatshortkid on Mar 26, 2009 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions
The one some people on this board may be looking for come June or July...

Alexander Hamilton shot Alexander Hamilton...
Well, I'll be running past that sign in July.
Sweet, I better start upping the suck.
by homesickalien on Mar 24, 2009 4:52 PM EDT
Ah, I get it.
I then prefer “on the River Kwai” – you know, the one we have to blow up to save mass US casualties.
Sweet, I better start upping the suck.
by homesickalien on Mar 24, 2009 4:52 PM EDT
F it.
To Joe CM.
Sweet, I better start upping the suck.
by homesickalien on Mar 24, 2009 4:52 PM EDT
by winningugly on Mar 26, 2009 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions
dammit
i did not look this far down
But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.
No sweat. Good call.
Sweet, I better start upping the suck.
by homesickalien on Mar 24, 2009 4:52 PM EDT
by winningugly on Mar 26, 2009 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions
what have i done?

But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.

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