You Bet Your Pretty Patootie It's Back: White Sox Minor League Update
by larry on Mar 29, 2009 11:16 AM CDT
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And now we're fully authorized. Expect White Sox minor league coverage the likes of which you've never seen.
Something else the likes of which you've never seen is White Sox minor league talent concentrated at one level. The opening day Birmingham roster is going to be amazing. The consensus five top prospects - Gordon Beckham, Aaron Poreda, Dayan Viciedo, Tyler Flowers, and Brandon Allen - are all expected to start there.
The traditional model of handling first-round picks entering their first full seasons typically begins with an assignment in Class A, a nice and necessary feeder before prospects get sent into the teeth of the high minors.
However, when it comes to shortstop Gordon Beckham, there is apparently no need to wait.
Confident that he can handle an advanced league, particularly after his impressive showing in the Arizona Fall League, the White Sox will not tug on Beckham’s reins and instead are targeting Double-A Birmingham as a 2009 starting point.
http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/prospects/?p=2944
Cuban sensation Dayan Viciedo, who was optioned to Triple-A Charlotte on March 18, is working out with the Double-A Birmingham group and likely will open the season there, according to a White Sox source.
“He’s got tremendous tools,” said Charlotte manager Chris Chambliss, who watched Viciedo in big league camp and for a week while he remained in the Triple-A group. “He’s got a real quick bat and power and a good at third.”
Aaron Poreda, the lefthander that the White Sox safeguarded in trade talks last summer, says he is heading back to Birmingham and has no qualms about it.
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“I think they want me in a comfortable atmosphere and J.R. (Perdew) is one of the best pitching coaches in the organization,” Poreda said. “We really have good communication, so it’s going to be good to work with him again.”
On his to-do list is working on a changeup, even more so than his slider.
http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/prospects/?p=2946
In other news, Jordan Danks, as expected, is headed to High-A Winston Salem:
Asked if spring training has been going well, White Sox outfielder and 2008 seventh-round pick Jordan Danks on Wednesday smiled and nodded his head.
Yes, it’s been pretty nice. Well, sort of.
“I’ve been getting called ‘John’ a lot,” Danks said, referring of course to his brother, a righthander on the big league staff. “People will see ‘Danks’ on the back of my jersey and assume I’m John. Then they come up to me and I have to tell them.
“Then,” Danks added, “they don’t seem to be so interested anymore.”
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sweet
I enjoyed this last year, this season I’ll love it with us like having talent down there.
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by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."
by Tdogg on Mar 29, 2009 11:33 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i hadn't seen that note on Poreda or Viciedo
I’m glad that’s where Poreda’s headed because of JR Perdew. And AA was where I thought Viciedo should end up. It’s best to have him experiencing some success. And there was chance he was going to get killed by breaking balls in AAA.
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by The Cheat on Mar 29, 2009 12:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
viciedo was moved earlier this week sometime from the knights roster to the barons roster so i knew that was coming but had nothing official to post other than a link to the barons roster.
poreda was rumored. we won’t know anything for sure until the assignments/optioning actually comes down.
i’m also quite happy since i wrote my white sox minor league season preview a couple weeks back and the birmingham part was going to have to be changed if poreda and viciedo weren’t there. i like the idea of the expected future core moving through the system somewhat together.
by larry on Mar 29, 2009 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Danks switched arms?
It's like he's a cyborg sent from the future to draw 22 walks a season or something.
by omnipotent grab on Mar 29, 2009 1:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm glad somebody else noticed that.
Alexander Hamilton shot Alexander Hamilton...
by Hazymania on Mar 29, 2009 11:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
whoaaaaaaa. He's good.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Mar 30, 2009 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no CJ Retherford?!?!
I can lead you to 4 Wisdom, but I can't free your brain from the evil of Punto.
by colintj on Mar 29, 2009 3:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I believe I will pay attention to this segment
this year.
If hate were people, I'd be China.
by winningugly on Mar 29, 2009 4:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm glad someone finally posted something like this.
We’ve never had a minor league “section” before, have we?
"I never had sex with that Governor" -
Roland Burris
by Chiburb on Mar 30, 2009 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's ALIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Mar 30, 2009 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
we still don't
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Mar 30, 2009 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The opening day Birmingham roster is going to be amazing. The consensus five top prospects – Gordon Beckham, Aaron Poreda, Dayan Viciedo, Tyler Flowers, and Brandon Allen – are all expected to start there.
the birmingham fab five!
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Mar 30, 2009 12:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
'Farm system value rankings (Part 3)' by Victor Wang
My last two articles looked at farm system rankings based off of how a team’s prospects rated in various top 100 lists. In the next two parts of the series, I’ll look at a team’s complete set of prospects and use their prospect rankings to find the worth of each farm system in baseball. For a more in depth look at how I measure prospect value, I would recommend reading my article in the 2009 Hardball Times Annual. A quick note, the prospect to watch section shows a prospect not rated in the the top 100 (shown in the first article) who I think has a good shot to break out next year. Now let’s look at the bottom half of the THT farm system rankings.
http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/farm-system-value-rankings-part-3/
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Mar 30, 2009 1:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Donny Lucy and Cole Armstrong will split the catching duties at Triple-A Charlotte, but Williams was impressed with Lucy’s improvement in hitting and catching duties.
http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports_hardball/2009/03/white-sox-roster-review.html
by larry on Mar 30, 2009 3:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It'd be nice if one of those two turned into a capable major league starter
I realize this is not a probable outcome.
You are right. But larry is actually a prick too.
- HSA 01/07/09
by rhythm on Mar 31, 2009 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think Flowers and Armstrong is the plan for '11
perhaps even 2010
I can lead you to 4 Wisdom, but I can't free your brain from the evil of Punto.
by colintj on Mar 31, 2009 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Say Corky goes down, which one of Armstrong/Lucy gets the call?
Is the lefty/lefty thing important enough to keep Armstrong from the bigs as long as A.J. is around?
by iachifan on Apr 1, 2009 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's important if you want him to hit at all.
Cole doesn’t have much of a bat as it is, but only playing him when he’s got a platoon disadvantage seems particularly cuel.
I can lead you to 4 Wisdom, but I can't free your brain from the evil of Punto.
by colintj on Apr 1, 2009 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
another blog entry from gordon. usual warnings apply.
by larry on Apr 1, 2009 12:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
(sniffle sniffle)
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Apr 1, 2009 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i wonder what they make their skyscrapers out of down south.
Cashing checks and having sex.
by MarketMaker on Apr 1, 2009 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That tripped me up too....among other things.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Apr 1, 2009 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Becks es bato?
Where the writings of Pat Conroy float through the marsh breeze on the coast of the southern shore. Where thunderstorms are actually welcomed after two months of no clouds. But mainly, where baseball parks light up the bright red marinated sunset.
WTF?
If hate were people, I'd be China.
by winningugly on Apr 1, 2009 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chicago White Sox
Signed: RHP Kelvin Jimenez, RHP Mike MacDougal, 3B Dayan Viciedo
Released: RHP Matt Davis, RHP Juan Moreno, RHP Stuart Pomeranz, RHP Steven Spurgeon, LHP Ronnie Morales, LHP Erasmo Ramirez, LHP Kevin Skogley, OF Estee Harris
Traded: C Chris Stewart to Yankees for future considerations
Traded: SS Sergio Santos to Giants for future considerations
Optioned to Triple-A: RHP Adam Russell, RHP Ehren Wassermann
Option transferred: 3B Dayan Viciedo (Triple-A Charlotte to Double-A Birmingham)
by larry on Apr 1, 2009 5:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I found JorDanks quote funny
"People will see ‘Danks’ on the back of my jersey and assume I’m John. Then they come up to me and I have to tell them."
"Then," Danks added, "they don’t seem to be so interested anymore."
my president is white.
by JoeCoolMan24 on Apr 1, 2009 10:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
newsflash: the barons have talent
and viciedo is big, ego is small
"If they had this s--- when i was playing, I would have been the best f------ shortstop who ever lived." - Oswaldo Guillen
by larry on Apr 2, 2009 7:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Your sig sucks.
I picture you sitting bolt-upright in bed, screaming like Jack Woltz in "The Godfather" as he sees Khartoum’s severed head.
by winningugly on Apr 2, 2009 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you should have hoodie write you a script
I can lead you to 4 Wisdom, but I can't free your brain from the evil of Punto.
by colintj on Apr 3, 2009 12:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
One player receiving nearly universal praise was White Sox infielder Gordon Beckham, who was sent down to the minors (he’ll begin the year at Double-A) at the end of March after batting .270/.325/.568 in 37 at-bats. The 2008 first-round pick has just 14 pro games on his resumé, but he still almost made the team. “As a pro scout, I’d never seen him, so he came here with a lot of hype and I went in looking for something not to like,” said one evaluator. “I was totally knocked out by him. He works the count like a pro, centers the ball every time up—he’s just doing everything right,” he concluded. Another scout who saw Beckham was equally impressed, saying that only his lack of experience was working against him when it came to roster decisions. “If he was 24 and was a guy with a couple of years in the minors,” the scout explained, “he just flat-out would have made this team.”
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=8693
"If they had this s--- when i was playing, I would have been the best f------ shortstop who ever lived." - Oswaldo Guillen
by larry on Apr 3, 2009 10:41 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Smoak THAT, Wiz!
keep it to a game thread or something like that, people will want to look at this again and don’t want to see a pair of bollocks every time they come on, you fucking wanker.
by winningugly on Apr 3, 2009 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
what?
did I ever knock down beckham?
jeez…
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Apr 3, 2009 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, you lamented about Smoak.
Would he have not bumped Becks from our list had we taken Smoak?
keep it to a game thread or something like that, people will want to look at this again and don’t want to see a pair of bollocks every time they come on, you fucking wanker.
by winningugly on Apr 3, 2009 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
so?
I advocated drafting smoak, I didn’t say anything bad about beckham
saying pujols is awesome, doesn’t extrapolate to hanley sucks
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Apr 3, 2009 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes it does. Check your math, son.
You are right. But larry is actually a prick too.
- HSA 01/07/09
by rhythm on Apr 3, 2009 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
too late
I already am president of the Gordon Beckham fanclub
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Apr 3, 2009 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of course it does
You’re never allowed to like Beckham, draft pick traitor.
Confusion breeds success. If they don't know each other, opponents can't have strategy. GENIUS.
by Ozzie Montana on Apr 3, 2009 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i believe the technical term is heretic
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by U-God on Apr 3, 2009 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can't have both, Wiz.
Make your choice and live with it.
keep it to a game thread or something like that, people will want to look at this again and don’t want to see a pair of bollocks every time they come on, you fucking wanker.
by winningugly on Apr 3, 2009 7:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like both
and if you don’t like it shove it up your ass
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Apr 3, 2009 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My point was, you couldn't draft both.
You bemoaned not having Smoak, so that inherently means we would not have Becks had we gone with your pick. Thus, the “you can’t have both”, you front-runner.
Do you kiss your Mom with that mouth?
keep it to a game thread or something like that, people will want to look at this again and don’t want to see a pair of bollocks every time they come on, you fucking wanker.
by winningugly on Apr 4, 2009 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
duh!
You bemoaned not having Smoak, so that inherently means we would not have Becks had we gone with your pick.
I ackowledget that (“I advocated drafting smoak”)
my point is not that we could draft both
my point was that I like both players
ps. yes
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Apr 4, 2009 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
me too!
Cashing checks and having sex.
by MarketMaker on Apr 4, 2009 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
From the same article:
Another 2008 first-round pick earning glowing reports is Rangers first baseman Justin Smoak, who hit .280/.357/.600 over 25 at-bats in big-league camp. “He’s just fun to watch—he certainly looks like he belongs in big-league games, and the team doesn’t miss a beat with him out there,” said one scout, who had even stronger words for the former South Carolina star when the subject of Smoak being blocked by Chris Davis came up. “He’s going to be better than Davis,” the scout concluded. “He’s going to be an All-Star, no question about it.”
Beckham THAT! (that pun doesn’t work, obviously, since it isn’t a pun, but you get my point)… Smoak’s pretty good too!
by The Big Hurt on Apr 6, 2009 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
is this the sss meet-up thread? where am i? what is this?
sox machine?
Cashing checks and having sex.
by MarketMaker on Apr 3, 2009 4:54 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
international league preview
Charlotte Knights
2008 Results: 63-78
2009 Manager: Chris Chambliss
What’s on deck: Former Major League first baseman Chris Chambliss replaces Marc Bombard as manager of the Knights this season. Chambliss, who was a part of two World Series championship teams with the Yankees in 1977-‘78, also served as hitting coach in the Bronx for title-winning teams in 1996, ’98, ’99 and 2000. Chambliss spent the 2008 season as hitting coach for the Richmond Braves. … LHP Aaron Poreda, the White Sox’s first-round pick in ’07, could see time in Charlotte after going 8-9 with a 3.13 ERA in 27 starts between Class A Advanced Winston-Salem and Double-A Birmingham in ’08. … The White Sox signed Cuban teenager Dayan Viciedo to an $11 million deal this offseason, and he could reach Charlotte after beginning the year in Double-A Birmingham.
"If they had this s--- when i was playing, I would have been the best f------ shortstop who ever lived." - Oswaldo Guillen
by larry on Apr 6, 2009 9:59 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
So long Rock, Jr.
Chicago White Sox
Released: C Danny Jordan, OF Tim Raines Jr.
Placed on restricted list: LHP Eric Stephenson, C Francisco Hernandez
Optioned to Triple-A: RHP Lance Broadway, RHP Jack Egbert, RHP Jeff Marquez
Outrighthed to Triple-A and removed from 40-man: OF Jerry Owens
So much for Raines Jr. making an impact in Triple-A and possibly forcing his way into Chicago’s center-field picture. He signed with the independent Newark Bears, where he’ll play for his father Tim Raines, manager of the Atlantic League club.
http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/prospects/?p=3076
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Apr 6, 2009 1:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
exhibition: barons 8, university of montevallo 0
shelby, beckham, flowers, allen, cook, viciedo, gartrell, colina, retherford
harrell started (3 IP) followed by torres, nunez, mike johnston (?), f. hernandez, lujan, d. rodriguez (1 IP each).
initially, i’m surprised to see cook back at AA. while some of the players listed above may be heading on to charlotte, word is that cook apparently is not. while it doesn’t matter much, viciedo had three hits, allen and flowers both homered, and beckham had a double.
john ely also was sighted
http://www.montevallo.edu/athletics/baseball/2009Releases/04062009.shtm
by larry on Apr 6, 2009 10:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
this is the mike johnston.
apparently he has tourette’s so that should be interesting.
http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/J/Mike-Johnston.shtml
by larry on Apr 6, 2009 11:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chicago White Sox
The Incumbent: Gordon Beckham, the 2008 first-round pick, blew away scouts and his own team this spring. He begins the year at Double-A Birmingham, but nobody is ruling out some big-league time as early as this year. That’s almost the only way he’ll avoid being #1 this winter.
Other Possibilities: Like Beckham, 2007 first-round pick Aaron Poreda made a run at a big-league role before being sent out. Cuban import Dayan Viciedo has enormous potential, and a Double-A assignment for a 20-year-old with no pro experience shows how much confidence the organization has in him.
Trade Bait: General Manager Kenny Williams rarely shies away from trades, but their top prospects will likely be off the table, and the system falls off quickly from there. Outfielder John Shelby III has a well-rounded set of tools and might be an attractive commodity in a second-tier trade should the White Sox compete.
Best Chance To Move Into The Top 100: Viciedo came into the spring in shape after looking downright fat last year. He could rocket up prospect lists with a good spring.
Odds to be #1 in 2009:
Gordon Beckham: 4-3
Dayan Viciedo: 9-1
Aaron Poreda: 12-1
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=8709
by larry on Apr 7, 2009 10:30 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
is that number 1 in the White Sox organization or overall?
Colon "toes" nothing. That implies a nimbleness akin to a Nureyev. I beleive he "platypussed" the shit out of that mound.
-winningugly
by blackoutsox on Apr 7, 2009 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sox.
Ninety percent I’ll spend on good times, women and Irish whiskey. The other 10 percent I’ll probably waste.
by winningugly on Apr 7, 2009 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
southern league preview
Birmingham Barons
2008 results: 74-63, First-half South Division champions
2009 manager: Ever Magallanes
What’s on deck: The Barons will enter 2009 with a new manager as Ever Magallanes was tabbed skipper last November. He joins the White Sox organization after three years as a manager in the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim system. … Though they failed to advance past the opening round of the playoffs, the Barons received the Bob Freitas Award last year. The award, named after the longtime Minor League promoter and ambassador who died in 1989, is given annually to a team from each of the four baseball classifications based on a sustained display of excellence, including steady attendance, long-term consistency and contribution to the surrounding community. … The 14th annual Rickwood Classic will take place on May 27 at Rickwood Field when the Barons host the defending-champion Mississippi Braves. … Rickwood Field also will host the Southern League Home Run Derby and Celebrity Softball game on July 13. The event will be part of the festivities leading up to the Southern League All-Star Game at Regions Park on July 14. “Being able to showcase one of the finest modern-day baseball stadiums, Regions Park, along with America’s oldest ballpark, Rickwood Field, will be something special for baseball fans and the coaches and players participating in the All-Star Week festivities,” said Barons general manager Jonathan Nelson. … Highly touted C Tyler Flowers will be a regular in the Birmingham lineup after batting .387 with 12 homers and 23 RBIs in 20 games in the Arizona Fall League. … He’ll be joined by former No. 1 pick SS Gordon Beckham.
by larry on Apr 7, 2009 2:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That may be the worst and most uninformative season preview that I’ve ever read.
by The Big Hurt on Apr 8, 2009 7:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It has a picture of a Cub on the site.
What did you expect?
Ninety percent I’ll spend on good times, women and Irish whiskey. The other 10 percent I’ll probably waste.
by winningugly on Apr 8, 2009 7:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like this team.
I WOULD KILL MYSELF BUT I CAN TAKE OUT SO MANY MORE PEOPLE IN A EXPLOSION
by Robert on Jun 23, 2008 5:22 PM PDT
by winningugly on Apr 7, 2009 2:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
looks like the roster for charlotte was set.
no cassel, which is kind of a surprise.
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?t=t_ros&cid=494&stn=true&sid=t494
by larry on Apr 7, 2009 8:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeesh, the Barons roster looks amazing and then you look at the Knights...
Damn
It's like he's a cyborg sent from the future to draw 22 walks a season or something.
by omnipotent grab on Apr 7, 2009 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i did wonder what had become of keith ginter
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by U-God on Apr 7, 2009 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that is one old infield
I'm like a laser, six-string razor. I've got a mouth like an alligator
by Nordhagen on Apr 8, 2009 8:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
catcher defensive ratings
armstrong and tyler too.
http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2009/4/8/824406/catching-prospects-pop-guns-and
by larry on Apr 8, 2009 10:35 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow, that Weiters guy is good
no. a mime is when you don't talk, not when no one talks to you.
by MarketMaker on Apr 6, 2009 2:58 PM CDT
by jc2313 on Apr 8, 2009 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hes out for the season though with a knee injury
Colon "toes" nothing. That implies a nimbleness akin to a Nureyev. I beleive he "platypussed" the shit out of that mound.
-winningugly
by blackoutsox on Apr 8, 2009 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you gotta be kidding.
tommy hanson – maybe you’ve heard of him – will be starting against the knights on opening day. who is charlotte going with? john van benschoten.
by larry on Apr 8, 2009 11:32 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Should be a competitve game
that Knights roster is a powerhouse.
no. a mime is when you don't talk, not when no one talks to you.
by MarketMaker on Apr 6, 2009 2:58 PM CDT
by jc2313 on Apr 8, 2009 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
kanny's roster looks to be set now.
carter and hudson both in the rotation while gregory infante gets the opening day start. drew o’neil and leroy hunt also there.
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?t=t_ros&cid=487&stn=true&sid=t487
by larry on Apr 8, 2009 11:38 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i like that they list the height and weight of the coaches
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by U-God on Apr 8, 2009 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting team to follow as well
hopefully, O’Neil starts more like he finished last year. He needs to move up the ladder a little quicker than this as a reliever.
no. a mime is when you don't talk, not when no one talks to you.
by MarketMaker on Apr 6, 2009 2:58 PM CDT
by jc2313 on Apr 8, 2009 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was hoping Hudson and Carter might get pushed to W-S
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by The Cheat on Apr 8, 2009 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
if santo luis isn't going to be pushed to b-ham
they aren’t going to push those guys, either.
by larry on Apr 8, 2009 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was just going to say the same.
They are apparently being cautious with the pitching across the board. Cassel in AA, Luis in A+, Poreda in AA, Hudson/Carter in A- . . . hopefully, they will move them quickly if they perform well early.
no. a mime is when you don't talk, not when no one talks to you.
by MarketMaker on Apr 6, 2009 2:58 PM CDT
by jc2313 on Apr 8, 2009 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the assignments for cassel and luis are a sick joke.
by larry on Apr 8, 2009 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed
no reason for Cassel to repeat a league at age 24 given his performance and if Luis it is sink or swim time for Luis. Need to find out if the stuff plays at a higher level than A+ when you are 25.
no. a mime is when you don't talk, not when no one talks to you.
by MarketMaker on Apr 6, 2009 2:58 PM CDT
by jc2313 on Apr 8, 2009 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I need to reread before I hit post. Geez.
no. a mime is when you don't talk, not when no one talks to you.
by MarketMaker on Apr 6, 2009 2:58 PM CDT
by jc2313 on Apr 8, 2009 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it really looks like someone thinks the barons need to win the first half title or something.
cassel repeating and cook being demoted?
by larry on Apr 8, 2009 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ha
it’s gotta be something?
THIS STORY ONLY ENDS ONE WAY
by colintj on Apr 8, 2009 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
thank god.
the update charlotte roster has cassel on it.
by larry on Apr 8, 2009 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
so typographical error probably?
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by colintj on Apr 8, 2009 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
jr.
Kenny Williams Jr. was assigned to Class A Kannapolis, where he will serve as the designated hitter for a few weeks.
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Apr 8, 2009 3:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
And then as the bat boy the rest of the year?
no. a mime is when you don't talk, not when no one talks to you.
by MarketMaker on Apr 6, 2009 2:58 PM CDT
by jc2313 on Apr 8, 2009 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
baseball america is providing sort of live updates of the charlotte opener.
obviously they’re there for jerry owens.
by larry on Apr 9, 2009 10:56 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
CF Miguel Negron; SS Eider Torres; 1B Brian Myrow; LF Michael Restovich; DH Ben Broussard; RF Josh Kroeger; 3B Javier Castillo; C Cole Armstrong; 2B Keith Ginter. Pitcher: John Van Benschoten.
For what it’s worth, the rest of the series’ pitching matchups include: Jo-Jo Reyes (Gwinnett) vs. Wes Whisler on Friday, James Parr vs. Jeff Marquez on Saturday, and TBA against Charlotte’s Lance Broadway on Sunday.
by larry on Apr 9, 2009 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
1:30 p.m. ET: Well, Egbert had a forgettable day, giving up three runs and lasting just 1.2 IP, but his loss is our gain in that we get to see some John Link. The White Sox reliever got off to a strong start, striking out the first two G-Braves; when Kary joins me in the press box I’ll get velos from him. But Link then walked Joe Borchard, gave up a hit to J.C. Boscan, and gave up a two-run double to Reid Gorecki to make it 8-0 in the eighth. Hope the rest of the staff sees more competitive games. Official atendance, by the way, is 7,876.
by larry on Apr 9, 2009 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
one way to solve the charlotte catcher dilemma
John Manuel: Bad news for the “Good Guys.” White Sox prospect Cole Armstrong is taking himself out after singling off Tommy Hanson here in the bottom of the fifth, with an apparent leg injury.
http://www.baseballamerica.com/chat/chat.php?id=2009040901&rnd=1
by larry on Apr 9, 2009 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LHP Aaron Poreda, White Sox: Double-A Birmingham
After almost breaking camp in the bullpen with the big-league club, why is Poreda heading back to Double-A? It might be a matter of comfort, as the 2007 first-round pick’s strikeout rate rose dramatically at Birmingham last year, as pitching coach J.R. Perdew helped him refine his slider. Poreda’s goal this year will be further improvement of his off-speed offerings, and the message to White Sox fans and fantasy players is that while many scouts still see him as a late-innings power reliever in the end, the organization still wants him to be a starter.
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=8722
and that is absolutely the correct message.
by larry on Apr 9, 2009 12:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
but Zduriernafnvasdads knows best i thought?
shouldn’t you turn all first round picks into relievers?
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by colintj on Apr 9, 2009 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
FUCKING SHIT KILL ME NAO!!!!!
It's like he's a cyborg sent from the future to draw 22 walks a season or something.
by omnipotent grab on Apr 9, 2009 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
giving your first round draft choice an opportunity to reward your early commitment? priceless.
Cashing checks and having sex.
by MarketMaker on Apr 10, 2009 12:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
“I’ve been around the game 24 years,” said Barons hitting coach Andy Tomberlin. "He’s impressed me as much as anyone I’ve had. He has a lot of work to do, but there’s a big upside.
“Not only does he hit for average, but he has an awareness of the strike zone. He talks the game and learns fast. He’s able to focus.
“But one of the toughest things as a player is to learn your limitations and stay within yourself. He knows his limits and plays with a lot of maturity.”
The 6-foot, 190-pound Beckham grew up a lukewarm Braves fan. He’s a White Sox fan now.
He knows his new ballpark and some of his teammates, including ex-SEC rivals John Shelby (Kentucky) and Ryan Rote (Vanderbilt).
He patterns his game after a future Hall of Famer, Yankees shortstop Derek Jeter.
“He plays the game the right way. He handles himself the right way,” Beckham said. “He’s a class act. I just hope I show the people of Birmingham that that’s the way I play the game, too.”
http://blog.al.com/birmingham-news-sports/2009/04/top_prospect_gordon_beckham_ma.html
by larry on Apr 9, 2009 7:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
not a promising start for danks and the dash
indians prospect kelvin de la cruz – who features a low to mid 90s fastball and a snapping curve – apparently was dealing.
by larry on Apr 9, 2009 8:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
He did have an assist though.
It's like he's a cyborg sent from the future to draw 22 walks a season or something.
by omnipotent grab on Apr 9, 2009 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i was listening to that game and the kanny game.
now danks certainly has a good arm and so on. but guys do a lot of stupid shit on the basepaths in the low minors. for example, in the kanny game tonight, one guy literally walked off second base – after he was safe – towards third while eduardo escobar had the ball in his glove right next to him and was tagged out.
by larry on Apr 9, 2009 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow haha yeah good point.
It's like he's a cyborg sent from the future to draw 22 walks a season or something.
by omnipotent grab on Apr 9, 2009 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he forgot to call timeout?
Cashing checks and having sex.
by MarketMaker on Apr 10, 2009 12:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
kanny wins in odd extra inning bases loaded walk-off fashion
loaded the bases in the 10th with a bunt hit, reaching on error off of a bunt, bunting into an out at third, a strikeout but wild pitch which allows gilmore to reach first, and then tyler kuhn was first pitch swinging and gets a single to drive in escobar.
by larry on Apr 9, 2009 9:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
the barons hit some but were also swinging and missing quite a bit. all the hitting prospects struck out multiple times.
this game went to extras as well and, in the 11th, our savior did what he does.
by larry on Apr 9, 2009 10:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
our god is an awesome god...
Cashing checks and having sex.
by MarketMaker on Apr 10, 2009 12:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah i didn't like to see all the Ks
especially since i’ve never heard of any of those chatt pitchers
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by colintj on Apr 10, 2009 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Neither had they.
They’ll adjust.
I'll say it SSH be quiet
by The Cheat on Apr 9, 2009 4:16 PM EDT
by winningugly on Apr 10, 2009 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gordon Beckham, SS, White Sox (Double-A Birmingham)
One of the loudest buzzes in Arizona this spring involved Beckham, who made a real run at the big-league second-base job to begin the year despite having just 14 games of professional experience under his belt. Based on his first game at the upper levels, this one might not take long, as the 2008 first-round pick out of Georgia went 4-for-6 with a double, three runs scored, and an RBI in a 5-4 win over Chattanooga, and that RBI was the key one—a game-winning single in the 11th inning. Up by September? Don’t be surprised.
…
Gregory Infante, RHP, White Sox (Low-A Kannapolis)
Sleeper Alert! Infante is just one of those guys—and every organization has a few—a live-armed kid who for whatever reason just hasn’t put it all together. For Infante, it was certainly all together on Opening Night as the 21-year-old Venezuelan put up the best pitching line of the evening, striking out 11 over six no-hit innings while walking two, but still facing the minimum of 18 batters thanks to a caught stealing and a double play as the Intimidators edged Asheville 1-0 in ten innings. Long-armed and brimming with projection, Infante sits with plus velocity but can ramp it up to 94-96 mph with a clean delivery and excellent arm action. The White Sox need some prospects to step up in a shallow system, and Infante just made himself an excellent candidate for such a leap forward.
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=8731
by larry on Apr 10, 2009 2:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
beat me by 30 min.
i didn’t realize Infante had that kind of arm. his work in rookie ball was meh.
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by colintj on Apr 10, 2009 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
lots of guys have that kind of arm.
if you’re repeating at bristol, of all places, and the best you can do at age 21 is a k/bb of 3.0, i’m going to have to see more than one start at kanny before i start falling all over him. i’m aware of him but he certainly did not merit attention in a season preview – certainly not over hudson or carter who had far better numbers in what i would call a tougher league – as some posters seem to think. i can’t write about everyone who is kind of interesting in every article.
by larry on Apr 10, 2009 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love that last line, one start
and now he is an ‘excellent candidate’ to make a leap forward.
no. a mime is when you don't talk, not when no one talks to you.
by MarketMaker on Apr 6, 2009 2:58 PM CDT
by jc2313 on Apr 10, 2009 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i was listening to that game.
sounded like he was dealing pretty good. but it also sounded like guys were maybe a little overanxious, too (can maybe see that in the birmingham game and some of the other games with high strikeout totals yesterday). guys on both kanny and asheville were running around the bases like chickens with their heads cut off (see above for an example). show me a few more starts with that kind of command and i’ll notice.
by larry on Apr 10, 2009 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i wonder if there is anything to that
youngsters getting the jitters in the first couple games, that is.
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by colintj on Apr 10, 2009 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think you made a good call
i made a comment to one of the posters on your article with the heading “one start”
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by colintj on Apr 10, 2009 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that BA article he cited was ridiculous.
i posted that back when it came out – it’s not like we haven’t covered infante here. think about it for a second. he’s rated the 16 prospect in the app league. he’s 21. he’s repeating the level after bombing in his promotion at kanny. and he’s being hyped as a #3 starter. good one. yeah, he’s got that potential – just like hundreds of others do – but he’s shown little so far to justify such an assertion. interesting arm who is on my watch list but put some starts together – and then do it again at a more age appropriate league at W-S.
by larry on Apr 10, 2009 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i've learned at this point to take BA with a measure of salt
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by colintj on Apr 10, 2009 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh, jordan. please cut the Ks?
apparently he’s a two true outcomes hitter – extra bases or strikeout. and either the indians’ pitchers were throwing BP or there are some patience issues with the lineup. take a walk?
by larry on Apr 10, 2009 8:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
rain shortened affair for charlotte.
um, well. what’s there to post about. hmmm. jerry owens apparently doesn’t even start in charlotte.
by larry on Apr 10, 2009 8:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
yawn.
beckham with a couple hits. nice to see mcculloch still has a job.
by larry on Apr 10, 2009 9:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
beat Elbert too
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by colintj on Apr 10, 2009 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and TF with a stolen base!
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by colintj on Apr 10, 2009 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
game 1 from kanny.
the usual 7 inning affair for a twin bill. leroy hunt made his first relief appearance, with a scoreless 1K, 1BB save.
dexter carter starts the second game.
by larry on Apr 11, 2009 7:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
marquez absolutely lit up by gwinnett.
doesn’t get out of the second. and jerry makes his first appearance.
by larry on Apr 11, 2009 7:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
drew a walk too!
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Apr 11, 2009 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jesus
wave the white flag…
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by The Cheat on Apr 11, 2009 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i bet they're wishing they could get in on kanny's seven inning limits tonight.
by larry on Apr 11, 2009 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They should just bring in a fan from the stands... can't get much uglier
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by The Cheat on Apr 11, 2009 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's like 10:30pm.
i doubt there are any fans left. maybe a groundskeeper or something.
by larry on Apr 11, 2009 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i don't know what to do.
keep listening to the barons or listen to kanny for dexter carter’s start.
by larry on Apr 11, 2009 7:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Barons
what was Poreda doing?
His boxscore isn’t really something we should pay attention to right now, as it’s all about the development of secondary pitches…
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by The Cheat on Apr 11, 2009 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, you can read about it tomorrow in the this week in white sox minor league baseball post.
or, since you are the head man, you can just go in and read it now.
by larry on Apr 11, 2009 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Becks is 1-4
Flowers with a HR
Allen is 4-4
Viciedo, 2-4 with another error.
my president is white.
by JoeCoolMan24 on Apr 11, 2009 10:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
allen was 4-5, all singles (3 to LF, 1 to RF). viciedo continues to hit okay, but not with power.
flowers hit a legit home run to straightaway center. and beckham just can’t go hitless.
poreda had trouble with his command but he managed to limit the damage to two runs over a laborious four innings.
harrell gets the start tomorrow.
by larry on Apr 11, 2009 10:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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