Eric Gagne released
by dasox313 on Mar 8, 2009 5:35 PM CDT
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PrintCould the White Sox use Eric Gagne as a bullpen piece. he got released jst a few hours ago by the Brewers from his minor league contract. In the middle of spring training, he might sign cheap thinking he might be not on a team going into the year. If the Sox offer him a contract, I see a 1 year minor-league deal. What do you guys think about the Sox trying to sign Eric Gagne?
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they released him because his arm is shredded.
this was not worth a fanpost.
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Well i couldn't make a famshot of this, there is no url
Changing up the way you blog about baseball, one post at a time.
there must be some link about him getting released
you could have used that for the famshot, and don’t let the editors bully you, keep posting.
I want a strawberry spinke
not fanshot worthy, either.
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Why are you so mean to everyone?
I want to participate in this community more, but seeing someone like you as an editor is such a turn off. I almost never post because there is too much of this being a jerk crap. Guess what? You’re not that cool because you post on a blog and read stats. Guess what else? You’re not always right. Other people have opinions and ideas that also have value.
by BoxingHideout on Mar 8, 2009 10:20 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
okay. this wasn't meant to be mean. there are standards for what should be prominently displayed on the side bar of this site for a number of days.
a question about whether the white sox should sign to a minor league contract a guy with serious damage to both the labrum and rotator cuff in his throwing shoulder is not up to that standard. it seems clear that dasox wasn’t even aware of why gagne was released. some minor research and thought is generally required for a fanpost.
on the other hand, what dasox posted regarding his “A.L. Central Outlook” is a substantial and relevant topic that he clearly put some thought and time into and is certainly worthy of being on the side bar.
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by larry on Mar 8, 2009 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Larry just needs to get laid
get him a blowup doll for god sakes
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Mar 9, 2009 7:14 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I sewar this is the funniest post you've ever written.
Kinder and gentler larry. The world IS coming to an end.
the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST
Come on, youngster, grow some hair.
The world is a lot tougher than we are on this site – since this site isn’t life and death except to Cheat, larry, and colin.
So hang in there – this is excellent practice for you to grow into adulthood. Just stay away from Chiburb, who eats youngsters for breakfast. (Your lunch money will be gone in 3 minutes.) Keep your thoughts coming, just consider the feedback you receive.
the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST
yeah. now we have to watch our language too, right Uncle WU?
"I never had sex with that Governor" -
Roland Burris
don't be such a pussy
So, if I am reading the two options correctly . . .
we can either a) keep dye or b) trade dye . . . is that you Phil Rogers?
by jc2313 on Dec 11, 2008 4:53 PM CST up reply recommended Unrec 1
by Where Triples Go to Die on Mar 15, 2009 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree with BoxiingHideout
The bitchiness and irrelevancy of some of the conversations scream “few standards except in the mind of those who post day and night – every day and night”. I mean today, for god’s sake, comments on Brian Myrow, who a few short years ago was playing in the Northern League – which is just a shade below the minors – and wasn’t even the best, or 2nd best player on that team.
So comment away on whatever you want, and, although Gagne is done and not worth considering, maybe some of you want to look at the board in your own eye before talking about the toothpick in BoxingHideout.
by Dick Allen's batting helmet on Mar 8, 2009 11:19 PM CDT reply actions
I'm not sure what you are arguing about
Comments on this board have almost no standards, but fan posts do (see this helpful link).
White Sox: Trying to roll a hard six.
the pertinent difference is that the bitchiness and irrelevance occurred in the comments section and not as the topic of a fanpost (unless i missed a myrow post that was up).
rather part of the point is that, for those who don’t post here day and night, that the content that immediately grabs peoples’ attention when they visit, such as the front page stories or the stuff at the top of the sidebars, actually be as relevant and interesting as possible.
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toothpick?
But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.
Really....
So “Who hates the English more than Cheat” , “Roberts released by Giants” and various other tripe is more pertinent than dead arm Gagne?
by Dick Allen's batting helmet on Mar 8, 2009 11:50 PM CDT reply actions
That reply button is a doozy.
I don't need to look at fancy stats
to see if a guy is good or not. You might have to.
by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 30, 2008 4:16 PM CST
by omnipotent grab on Mar 9, 2009 6:16 AM CDT up reply actions
To my defense, at least it was a fanshot and I provided a link
You are right. But larry is actually a prick too.
- HSA 01/07/09
Oh, OK
So “the rule” is the topic must be “relevant”, except if it is “funny”. Any other rules we should all know?
As a regular reader of SSS, but rarely a poster, I have never found the sidebar fanpost topics a problem as there are many topics, by their title, I never bother with and the Gagne one only caught my interest because of its absurdity (i.e. we all know that Gagne’s arm is done, that getting released this early in spring training is telling, etc.).
On the other hand I didn’t read “Who hates the english more…” as it held no baseball related interest to me whatsover – my choice.
So either:
A) if you aren’t interested in a fanpost based on its title don’t look at it, or
B) If there are going to be “rules” for “fanposts” then perhaps these should be clarified, applied evenly, and “enforced” by an editor who reviews before it ever hits the webpage.
by Dick Allen's batting helmet on Mar 9, 2009 12:41 AM CDT reply actions
The guidelines for fanposts *were* clarified
They are on the link I posted above. They are in a sticky post at the top of the fanposts.
I’m not an editor or anything so this is just my opinion, but I don’t really see what bone you are trying to pick.
This post was barely over the 75 word limit, and didn’t contain much useful information beyond the fact that Gagne was released. Not everyone may know that his arm was shot, and doing a little due diligence makes a ‘meh’ fanpost a good one.
Sure, larry can be a jerk, and could have phrased the criticism more nicely, but that’s larry being larry. Might as well ask why fire is hot or water wet. I’m sure some day larry will refuse to write content and demand a trade to True Blue LA.
Ultimately this is coming down to you disagreeing with larry about the criticism of this particular fanpost. This is fine, but you are trying to spin it into some huge critique of the entire site, which I don’t think is warranted or deserved.
White Sox: Trying to roll a hard six.
Agreed.
"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."
by Shoeless In SC on Mar 9, 2009 3:11 AM CDT up reply actions
Well, coming from one of the editors
The entire point of fanposts and fanshots is to give non-editors and authors of the site a chance to write their own articles. Before he got the bump, larry used to do one hell of a series on the farm system and has continued to churn out quality front page stuff. I am still in the process (I swear WU, I will finish it) of two series of my own. And yeah, we do get the occasional music thread, or the “Who hates the English more than Cheat” thread, but that is a rather large part of what this website is. We are a community. We do crap like that. There are very few no-nonsense sites as a part of SBNation. The only time I feel like I should intervene in someone’s fanpost or fanshot is if they swear in the title or type something incredibly offensive. With all that being said, I agree that this was not fanpost worthy. If dasox had a URL, it would have been fine as a fanshot. Granted, it has very little to do with the Sox and I don’t see us going out to get him, it would have been fine down there. Dasox, you have been putting out a lot of content that you have spent more time on than this. And it is improving, it really is. Just next time you have something like this, maybe just make a fanshot.
But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.
Or maybe you shouldn't fear what an anonymous editor says
This isn’t larry’s site, nor does he profit or have anything to gain from it besides good White Sox discussion. If you want to post something, post it, but if it’s stupid or irrelevant then people will rag on it. If it’s funny or insightful, or reports some kind of breaking news, you’ll get good discussion.
Confusion breeds success. If they don't know each other, opponents can't have strategy. GENIUS.
by Ozzie Montana on Mar 9, 2009 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions
there is a balance which needs to be struck between things that are relevant to the "hardcore" posters of the community and what is relevant to the more casual / all readers.
unfortunately, this fanpost on signing a washed up injured pitcher is not even close to being relevant to either.
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Better to burn out than fade away...
the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST
I want to see the headline:
ERIC GAGNE, UNLEASHED! Or:
ERIC GAGNE, LIVE AT BUDOKAN!
That would grab my attention.
the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST
Kenny Powers....?
It's called Sex Panther by Odeon. It's illegal in nine countries... Yep, it's made with bits of real panther, so you know it's good.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
i'm gonna be a little sad when it ends in two weeks
But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.
I think Danny McBride is really good in it.
and the show is funny…. not great but, it really has it’s moments.
It's called Sex Panther by Odeon. It's illegal in nine countries... Yep, it's made with bits of real panther, so you know it's good.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
it's like if ricky bobby hadn't regained hisability to drive
i think six episodes is probably the perfect amount
But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.
Holy crap! Where is the cloaking machine when you need it?
"I never had sex with that Governor" -
Roland Burris
Who was the ad wizard who came up with THIS?
the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST
Compare and contrast:
“Eric Gagne just got released from his minor league contract by the Brewers a few hours ago, and if the Royals could get him signed to a cheap minor league deal, it might provide some upside. Having an old closer to teach the young players in the bullpen will be alone worth whatever his contract will be, an pitching help is an upside.”
“Could the White Sox use Eric Gagne as a bullpen piece. he got released jst a few hours ago by the Brewers from his minor league contract. In the middle of spring training, he might sign cheap thinking he might be not on a team going into the year. If the Sox offer him a contract, I see a 1 year minor-league deal. What do you guys think about the Sox trying to sign Eric Gagne?”
Can’t “contrast”? Because they say the same thing and are written by the same person?
Then there is this gem (from the other site):
“Also, I’ve reading, and they say Gagne’s arm is done, I just don’t beleive that Changing up the way you blog about baseball, one post at a time.”
by dasox313 on Mar 8, 2009 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jeez.
"I never had sex with that Governor" -
Roland Burris
there is a strong contrast in the general response, though
a couple commenters at Royals Rview think maybe he’s worth looking at…
I think they might need a “larry” over there.
I'm like a laser, six-string razor. I've got a mouth like an alligator
Or MORE larry here. He let this guy off too easily.
"I never had sex with that Governor" -
Roland Burris
Sans fangs now that he is on the payroll.
(And you have to think dasox is a youngster who could use a little support and mentoring.)
the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST
(And you have to think dasox is a youngster who could use a little support and mentoring.)
Ah! The son you never had…
Nope. I’d be supportive if he hadn’t posted the same thing at Royal’s Review, and then after being told (here) that Gagne is being sought by Dr. Richard Kimbal, he posts “I just don’t believe that”.
Young? Yes. Needs support and mentoring? Maybe when he’s in high school, but not until.
"I never had sex with that Governor" -
Roland Burris
There are laws preventing anal violation below a certain age.
You never know where the next Roger Angell or David Halberstam is coming from.
the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST
See?
I’m 14, i don’t have an older sister
Changing up the way you blog about baseball, one post at a time.
by dasox313 on Mar 9, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Give a young brother a break. (I thought he was 13.)
the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST
Yikes!
I wouldn’t wish that on my worst enemy
So, if I am reading the two options correctly . . .
we can either a) keep dye or b) trade dye . . . is that you Phil Rogers?
by jc2313 on Dec 11, 2008 4:53 PM CST up reply recommended Unrec 1
by Where Triples Go to Die on Mar 15, 2009 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions
well, that's true.
as you can see from what boxingguy said above, i’m certainly a divisive figure who makes some people not want to participate. i’m not supposed to be going after people, especially newer posters, with the same, shall we say, glee that i did in the past. of course, i have a feeling that i’m not the only one who people such as boxingguy should fear for that sort of thing. this site doesn’t tolerate half-assed opinions/research. whether that’s “being a jerk” or not, i don’t know. our community is certainly difficult to penetrate. we’re making an attempt to make it less so without losing the standard of quality posting and also understanding that our community is of a certain bent when it comes to a philosophy of baseball and how to act etc. however, we also have individuals – like kenwo and WTGTD – that buck this philosophy and provide a nice check on the rest of us. i forget WU’s specific metaphor but you have to be both strong and knowledgeable to thrive on this site.
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Shoot, this isn't testing for Harvard Law or Wharton business -
it’s supposed to be fun – we’re talking baseball, not rocket science or curing cancer (Obama has that covered). Some of the most hilarious posts have been in response to asinine things others have postulated as gospel. We mostly have a Chicago background, meaning most of us have a Chicago sense of humor – sarcastic, sardonic, and often fatalistic. Combine that with young idelaogues who may lack perspective/wisdom/knowledge but have unbridled enthusiasm and you have a very diverse, smart, and entertaining group.
Caveat emptor. If this site was like BCB or those that don’t allow swearing or poking fun at other opinions I’d have been canned long ago (and some – Pete, you there? – would love to see that) or gone on to greener pastures by choice. This site is fun, unless you lack confidence or a semblance of humility.
So kiss my a$$, DA’sbhelmet. My English-hater fanpost is green. I earned it. Go get your own. (Oh, you did! Congrats.) You POS. ;)
the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST
Agree.
I was a “reader / non poster” for a long time. It takes a while before you get familiar with the way things go around here. But what’s wrong with that?
SSS is an acquired taste. Being nicer to new posters wouldn’t improve the site. It would only cheapen it. I enjoy that I’m held accountable by the community for what I post. How else would I know when I had a good post (yet to happen)?
If Dasox313 is distraught over being called out, maybe he will think about what he post from now on. Or maybe he won’t and, he will continue to be called out. Either way is fine by me but, don’t expect the responses to stupid post to change.
Sidenote to larry I was worried when you took the editors job, that you would become to PC. Please don’t ever change. I remember thinking that you were such an asshole. and in all reality you are. But you’ve made me a much smarter baseball fan and sss poster (alcohol excluded).
It's called Sex Panther by Odeon. It's illegal in nine countries... Yep, it's made with bits of real panther, so you know it's good.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by ElDiablo on Mar 9, 2009 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
well, i have to change somewhat.
i agreed that i would not engage new posters. however, i think there are enough people on here to handle that area, if necessary. i also am supposed to stop arguing when the conversation starts to reach the big black thing on the right side (something about me arguing for arguments sake). i still will be going after the more seasoned posters.
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i like how this ended up tossed away in a parenthetical. rhetorical style indeed.
something about me arguing for arguments sake
you’re tossing away your very essence!
how much to the have to pay the Players -- that's what she said -- of the league like BA?
I don't think the kid is distraught about any of this
you should have seen the reaction some of his earlier fan posts got, he’s done all of this stuff with a lot of courage and good grace, and he’s kept coming back posting more and working on it.
It’s not Hemingway but nothing on here is.
I want a strawberry spinke
If you notice, he's signed up for every blog in the universe.
Lots of places for him to test his writing/baseball skills, probably nicer places to hang out too.
Bah effin humbug.
"I never had sex with that Governor" -
Roland Burris
Re reading the above post makes me sound like a real ass kisser...
anyway to get that removed…?
It's called Sex Panther by Odeon. It's illegal in nine countries... Yep, it's made with bits of real panther, so you know it's good.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
Yes, but you didn't kiss MY ass. So fuck off, I hope someone else rec's it.
"I never had sex with that Governor" -
Roland Burris
it's pertinent to my interests.
it stays.
how much to the have to pay the Players -- that's what she said -- of the league like BA?
i still don't see where anyone has wronged dasox
the first comment from larry was simple guidance. I see no ridicule, bullying, or “being a jerk” in it. It only turned into commentary on “how to gracefully edit” later.
I'm like a laser, six-string razor. I've got a mouth like an alligator
part of the issue, i think, is that people think that i'm such an asshole that everything i write is done with a sneer.
also, i should have been more precise with what i was getting at with “this is not fanpost worthy”.
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Nicht war?
No, I understand. And “non fanpost worthy” could be construed as harsh in some circles – like the WNBA, Cheat’s bike rack, and Wiz’ basement.
the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST
haha, you're a dork.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Mar 9, 2009 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions
sometimes people can't handle the truth larry.
you can lead a dead horse to water but he won’t drink.
So, if I am reading the two options correctly . . .
we can either a) keep dye or b) trade dye . . . is that you Phil Rogers?
by jc2313 on Dec 11, 2008 4:53 PM CST up reply recommended Unrec 1
by Where Triples Go to Die on Mar 15, 2009 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Dick'shelmet butted in and disparaged my FanPost.
dasox was treated properly – he was mildly called out on posting something that was not FanPost-worthy. No shame in that. Chiburb wanted a pelt at that point. Chiburb has the blood lust for young flesh. He is a disturbed man.
the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST
Chi pointed out the posting tendencies
specifically, the carbon copy fanpost at royalsreview.
And i agree that at minimum, that was a little wierd. So I think that also got the appropriate treatment from this community.
No one wants to give a young kid a rough go. I didn’t know the age/experience of the OP (still don’t I guess). I have trouble keeping track of the gender/occupation/location/mental makeup of the people here. Except for yous guys in the world of finance. But that’s cuz you talk about it every frickin day…. ;)
I'm like a laser, six-string razor. I've got a mouth like an alligator
Just saw a reply to hoodwink: he's only 14.
Jeez that explains a lot.
I swear he better stay off the lawn!
"I never had sex with that Governor" -
Roland Burris
That's right - if you average your 2 ages
we now have 2 AARP-eligible posters.
BWAHAHAHAHAHA! You OPOS.
the post wasn't for you. fuck off.
by larry on Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST
fuckinaright.
Just wish I was here for the real-time event.
"I never had sex with that Governor" -
Roland Burris
the one job you never leave, wu
until the feds find out you’re into kiddie porn anyway.
how much to the have to pay the Players -- that's what she said -- of the league like BA?
There are 65 posts in a fanpost...
about a washed up reliever getting released :)
Mission accomplished. Terrorists win.
"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."
by Shoeless In SC on Mar 10, 2009 12:48 PM CDT reply actions
I blame OM.
And a slew of sandy vagina-ed posters.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Mar 10, 2009 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't know why you're blaming Sanksrit
Confusion breeds success. If they don't know each other, opponents can't have strategy. GENIUS.
by Ozzie Montana on Mar 10, 2009 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions
I've seen larry be mean. I've called it out in the past when it's happened (and I don't mean jokingly). And this is not one of those occasions. People do need to understand when NOT to make something a fanshot/post.
dasox has made 75 comments on this site, and written about 65,000 fanposts. Obviously, he could translate a lot of these fanposts into comments.
Also, I thought it was hilarious to see him calling out someone else’s misuse of a fanpost here.
Hopefully that means that as of yesterday, he’s learned how to identify what is not worthy of a fanpost.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
I've seen that too
very funny, I like our friends polls though, I always get my vote in.
I want a strawberry spinke
nicely done, internet.
nicely done.
how much to the have to pay the Players -- that's what she said -- of the league like BA?
bravo - this was too fucking funny/missed all the fun til now
larry gives the kid a vicious clothesline just as he thought he was bursting through a gaping hole off tackle. Then the rest of SSS stands around taunting him while they bring out the stretcher. Forgive me god, I do love it so… Hang in there kid!
btw colin – GO BLUE! First tourney in your lifetime, cherish these days.
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