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How Are Things on the West Coast?: A Seattle Mariners Preview

The first preview of a non-AL Central opponent in what will hopefully be a series of each team we play this season.  Note: These will not be as in-depth as larry's were, mostly because we play these teams far less often.

Dates we play them: 4/27-4/29 at home, 8/10-8/12 at Seattle, 9/15-9/17 at Seattle

Offense:  A potential line-up: Ichiro Suzuki-RF, Jose Lopez-2B, Ken Griffey Jr.-DH, Adrian Beltre-3B, Russell Branyan-1B, Franklin Gutierrez-CF, Kenji Johjima-C, Endy Chavez-LF, Ronny Cedeño-SS     Bench Players: Mike Sweeney 1B/DH, Yuniesky Betancourt-SS, Wladamir Balantien-LF/RF, Rob Johnson-C

Wow, that is just an incredibly uninspiring offense.  Seattle scored only 671 runs last season.  They do stand to improve on that this year.  No longer having to rely on the craptacular Jose Vidro and Richie Sexson at DH and 1B respectively and replacing them with Ken Griffey Junior, Russell Branyan, and the platoon-mate of both Mike Sweeney should help tremendously.  If they would swallow their pride and start Jeff Clement over Johjima at catcher, that would help greatly as well.  Losing Raul Ibañez's bat in left hurts, but not having to deal with stuff like this will more than make up for it.  In fact, while their outfielders (other than Ichiro) may not be all that impressive at the plate, this may very well be the best defensive outfield in baseball next season.  All three men could realistically play center for any team.  The greatest strength for the Mariners this season will most likely be their defense.  They are above-average defensively at every position except catcher, first, and second, with Jose Lopez being a decent fielder at second.  Cedeño and Lopez are good candidates to improve on their hitting, but don't look for too much.  Expect a big year from Adrian Beltre, as he's playing for a new contract.

Star-divide

Pitching:  A potential rotation and closer:Felix Hernandez-RHP, Erik Bedard-LHP, Carlos Silva-RHP, Jarrod Washburn-LHP, Ryan Rowland-Smith-LHP and Brandon Morrow-RHP.

Seattle's pitching didn't help matters much last year, as they gave up the fourth-most runs in the American League.  Due to a vastly improved defense and potential improvements/increase in starts from the 3/5 of the rotation that are actually talented, the Mariners could find themselves in the middle of the pack when it comes to runs allowed this season.  Felix Hernandez is a beast.  The soon-to-be 23 year old is now entering his fifth major league season.  If he can trim his BB/9 ratio back under 3, expect big things from the burgeoning ace.  Erik Bedard's health could be the fulcrum the Mariner's season rests upon.  If he puts up another year like last season, the M's will have a hard time competing in the weakened AL West.  If he can get back to his Baltimore self and pitch anything over 24 starts the M's will have one of the best 1-2 punches in baseball.  Bedard will benefit greatly from the improved outfield defense, as he 36.3% of the outs he's recorded are flyballs.  Silva and Washburn are bad pitchers with terrible contracts thanks to the old Bavasi regime.  Washburn should "improve" because an astonishing 43.7% of balls hit of him are flyballs.  Ryan Rowland-Smith is a capable fifth starter on a team that pretty much has three of them.  He wouldn't be in the rotation if Brandon Morrow didn't have to be a relief pitcher.  Unfortunately, Morrow's diabetes makes it incredibly hard for him to be anything other than a relief pitcher.  Morrow strikes out batters like an elite relief pitcher (9.91 K/BB), but walks far too many (4.73 BB/9 last season).  Last season marked an improvement on walks allowed and if Morrow can continue the trend, he could be a mid to middle-upper tier closer.

 

Outlook:  If everything goes right for the Mariners, they could actually make the playoffs this season.  A more realistic prediction would be third place with an outside shot of taking second and a sub-.500 record, something around 74-78 wins.  The Mariners are taking great strides towards improving but are still a year or two away from being a major threat.

[originally published prior to the season - bumped for timelinesss]

 

A quick update: Since this one was done before the season started, some things have obviously changed.  The offense has been bad as expected, the defense has been phenonemonal, also as expected.  The pitching has been lights out.  I doubt Bedard will keep pitching at such a high level (225 ERA+), but he will still be far above average.  They look really good right now and I wish we weren't playing them right after playing Toronto.

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quit previewing the damn mariners

and play the game 2 of the time machine tournament for god sake. I’m still pissy over my game 1 loss.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Apr 1, 2009 7:21 AM CDT reply actions  

that teacher joke was hilarious!

even when I rearrange your sentence it still makes absolutely no sense.

He also doesn’t care much for me, so I expect me posting on these things to piss him off.
by U-God on Feb 27, 2009 10:00 AM CST

by Where Triples Go to Die on Apr 1, 2009 8:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

emphasis on "the"

" the damn mariners and play the game 2 of the time machine tournament for god sake".

http://www.southsidesox.com/2009/4/2/819786/cactus-league-finale-white-sox-vs#13641879

by Where Triples Go to Die on Apr 2, 2009 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is this Lookout Landing?

Fer Chrissakes.

If hate were people, I'd be China.

by winningugly on Apr 1, 2009 7:40 AM CDT reply actions  

I still hate them from the 2000 playoffs.

also, I miss Kelly Wunsch.

I'm like a laser, six-string razor. I've got a mouth like an alligator

by Nordhagen on Apr 1, 2009 9:09 AM CDT reply actions  

I appreciate the effort

but how much interest will there really be for previews outside the AL Central? I’ll read them of course but Im not sure its worth it for you to do the work.

"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."

by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."

by Tdogg on Apr 1, 2009 9:11 AM CDT reply actions  

I'd rather have on on the Pirates,

since many of us will at least be seeing them live in May.

Mariners? I’m serious – Lookout Landing does a great job (I was just reading a gamethread of theirs last night).

If hate were people, I'd be China.

by winningugly on Apr 1, 2009 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

*have it on*

If hate were people, I'd be China.

by winningugly on Apr 1, 2009 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

Pirates? Why waste the space, type and energy (plus kill the environment?)

The Pirates Preview can be summed up in one word, “Suckitude”.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Apr 1, 2009 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

u-god is using this to learn more about teams, I guess at the same time he can plop it on SSS

Maybe teams like that can be left in the fan post area and not promoted to center field

by LT_sox_fan on Apr 1, 2009 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

+1

You are right. But larry is actually a prick too.
- HSA 01/07/09

by rhythm on Apr 1, 2009 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

I just liked that hoodie said, "so you can all go bollocks"

Crazy Scotsmen!

You are right. But larry is actually a prick too.
- HSA 01/07/09

by rhythm on Apr 1, 2009 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Scotsman - are you trying to wind me up?

I believe the common character of the universe is not harmony, but chaos, hostility, and murder.

by hoodlight on Apr 2, 2009 5:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

guilty as charged.

You are right. But larry is actually a prick too.
- HSA 01/07/09

by rhythm on Apr 27, 2009 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was going to call him Irish.

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Apr 27, 2009 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Indeed. That's quite funny, actually.

I didn’t notice that his reply was from April 2. I hadn’t seen it until earlier today.

You are right. But larry is actually a prick too.
- HSA 01/07/09

by rhythm on Apr 27, 2009 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

word to that.

screw the rest of y’all.

I can lead you to 4 Wisdom, but I can't free your brain from the evil of Punto.

by colintj on Apr 1, 2009 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

2 recs.

Stellar. I guess we should continue this POS concept.

If hate were people, I'd be China.

by winningugly on Apr 1, 2009 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

you cut me deep OPOS

like surgery

But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.

by U-God on Apr 1, 2009 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

POS stood for POSitive in this case.

And I second it.
You’d think at WU’s age he’d appreciate reading it again.

Until you've looked at an ant through a magnifying glass on a sunny day, you don't realize how often they go up in flames...

by Chiburb on Apr 27, 2009 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

i do like looking back on this

now that three more have been written

"2 years ago when I looked into my baseball magazine I saw the name Lars Anderson. I just thoguht, another draft pick that might not do anything. Also I though here might be the next Albert Pujols." -dasox313

by U-God on Apr 27, 2009 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

don't listen to 'em u-god!

i thoroughly enjoyed this preview and look forward to the next installment in the series.

by Ryno on Apr 1, 2009 10:09 AM CDT reply actions  

Thanks for putting this together U-God. Necessary? Nah. But nice anyway.

The Mariners are in for an interesting season, to say the absolute least.
Coming off of over 100 losses, there is hopefully only one direction to go…(not that the M’s are shy to 60 wins or less – in about 30 years of franchise history, they’ve had 13 seasons of >70 wins).

The excitement here over Griff-dog’s return is really taking the attention so far this season, but I am pretty sure that will die off by May 15th, when he’s either injured or has hit his 47th warning track ball. His presence, however, is undoubtedly important to the club and will inevitably draw fan support, which the M’s desperately need.

I think it was really a great move for him to go back to Seattle – even if he doesn’t do much, he’ll forever have that respect for finishing where his career was made. (I wish Big Frank could have ended his career with us…..)

From there, like I said yesterday, I think they’ll have an 80-win season. I think Sweeney will be a solid DH for them and will hopefully provide a good bat for their loss of Ibanez. I know he isn’t the “starting” DH, but if Griff is in LF (where I think they may play him) or if Griff slumps/gets injured, Sweeney will be the man.

Should be interesting to see how this season unfurls for the M’s with their new management and clearly (now-)bitching bullpen! And of course, I am thrilled that the Sox come here twice this season….good news for me and some other West-coast SSSers (which reminds me – there is another SSSer in Seattle with me now…woot!).

In any event, I look forward to sipping a beer at Safeco soon.

2000…..damn…. and they had Paniagua!

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Apr 1, 2009 10:31 AM CDT reply actions  

yeah, i worded that terribly

But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.

by U-God on Apr 1, 2009 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

Edit button exists.

I can lead you to 4 Wisdom, but I can't free your brain from the evil of Punto.

by colintj on Apr 1, 2009 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fix this, if you're in there already. ;)

“are bad pithcers with terrible”

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Apr 1, 2009 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why all this chatter about the M's?!

Are we that news deprived that we have to discuss the M’s?

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Apr 1, 2009 11:03 AM CDT reply actions  

I imagine he was going to continue with the other AL teams too. This is just the first, I believe.

But yeah – we are news-deprived right now!

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Apr 1, 2009 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

yeah

i just started with the m’s because they seemed like an easy enough spot to start. ideally, i’d like to cover every team

But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.

by U-God on Apr 1, 2009 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

But, and not to denigrate your obvious talents,

if others are covering this exhaustively through other SB Nation sites, unless you can provide a upgrade of information or perspective, or be more entertaining, isn’t it a better utilization of your time to focus on your other stuff here, or deliver a calf, or cut some pig’s nuts off? I mean, really, let’s get efficient as a society, fer Chrissakes.

;)

If hate were people, I'd be China.

by winningugly on Apr 1, 2009 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

idk

It’s like a fellow I once knew in El Paso. One day, he just took all his clothes off and jumped in a mess of cactus. I asked him that same question, “Why?”. He said, “It seemed to be a good idea at the time.”

But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.

by U-God on Apr 1, 2009 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

noted

But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.

by U-God on Apr 1, 2009 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

fuck that.

you got especially shat on cuz it’s the M’s. they’re probably the best covered baseball team on the planet. unless Cheat doesn’t think they’re FP worthy, keep it white. gray is for the hoi.

I can lead you to 4 Wisdom, but I can't free your brain from the evil of Punto.

by colintj on Apr 1, 2009 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

You racist piece of shit.

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Apr 1, 2009 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

old news.

I can lead you to 4 Wisdom, but I can't free your brain from the evil of Punto.

by colintj on Apr 1, 2009 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

you could have made this a fan shot even! look how I did it!

MARINERS = SUCKY

(Picture of the esteemed General)

THE END.

He also doesn’t care much for me, so I expect me posting on these things to piss him off.
by U-God on Feb 27, 2009 10:00 AM CST

by Where Triples Go to Die on Apr 1, 2009 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Only Leyland

On the decision to cut Gary Sheffield:

http://www.detnews.com/article/20090401/SPORTS0104/904010346/1129/rss15

“It was a gut-wrencher,” said manager Jim Leyland, who stayed up late thinking about the decision to release a likely Hall of Famer. "It’s not good when you light up two Marlboro’s at the same time at 3 a.m., washing it down with a glass of chocolate milk.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Apr 1, 2009 11:40 AM CDT reply actions  

"Chocolate milk" is code for "bourbon".

Old Grand Dad, I bet.

If hate were people, I'd be China.

by winningugly on Apr 1, 2009 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

I could just picture him sitting at his kitchen table

with two Marlboro’s lit and a gallon of chocolate milk next to him (or Bourbon)….with a little George Jones’ depressing sh*t on low in the background.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Apr 1, 2009 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

i thought it was code for jager-bombs!

He also doesn’t care much for me, so I expect me posting on these things to piss him off.
by U-God on Feb 27, 2009 10:00 AM CST

by Where Triples Go to Die on Apr 1, 2009 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

IAWTP, A+

WOULD READ AGAIN

I can lead you to 4 Wisdom, but I can't free your brain from the evil of Punto.

by colintj on Apr 1, 2009 3:38 PM CDT reply actions  

ps good job

I can lead you to 4 Wisdom, but I can't free your brain from the evil of Punto.

by colintj on Apr 1, 2009 3:38 PM CDT reply actions  

first person to mention it though

i was thinkin no one noticed it

But Frank Thomas was always his own guy, he always lived by some sort of code that wasn’t especially clear to anyone but him.

by U-God on Apr 1, 2009 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

i never got into Interpol

so that’s why i failed. recently been trying to get into TOtBL

I can lead you to 4 Wisdom, but I can't free your brain from the evil of Punto.

by colintj on Apr 1, 2009 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

bumped up to the top for timeliness.

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by larry on Apr 27, 2009 1:05 PM CDT reply actions  

There is oh so much more to say about this team now that they've been playing for a month....

I like to spell my racial slurs correctly. Otherwise, I may come across as ignorant.

by homesickalien on Apr 27, 2009 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Precisely.

I like to spell my racial slurs correctly. Otherwise, I may come across as ignorant.

by homesickalien on Apr 27, 2009 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

i added a small new paragraph

"2 years ago when I looked into my baseball magazine I saw the name Lars Anderson. I just thoguht, another draft pick that might not do anything. Also I though here might be the next Albert Pujols." -dasox313

by U-God on Apr 27, 2009 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

I like. However, having seen all but a few of the games, the "offense has been bad" is slightly misleading.

Their team line thus far may not be too impressive (.253/.306/.366), but they’ve gotten hits when they needed to get hits.
I know “clutch” is relatively immeasurable, but they have been able to produce runs when they’ve needed them…watching the games, I don’t get the sense that their offense is bad. Not great…but producing. (80 runs on the season so far, compared to our 88).

I like to spell my racial slurs correctly. Otherwise, I may come across as ignorant.

by homesickalien on Apr 27, 2009 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

"Suck" is a big word for such a small boy, colintj.

I like to spell my racial slurs correctly. Otherwise, I may come across as ignorant.

by homesickalien on Apr 27, 2009 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's into fisting too.....

I like to spell my racial slurs correctly. Otherwise, I may come across as ignorant.

by homesickalien on Apr 27, 2009 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gotta buy a ticket to see the show.

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Apr 27, 2009 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

their hitting wOBA is 29th in the majors according to LL

that’s pretty sucky

granted we’re only 20th, but it still outranks 29th

"2 years ago when I looked into my baseball magazine I saw the name Lars Anderson. I just thoguht, another draft pick that might not do anything. Also I though here might be the next Albert Pujols." -dasox313

by U-God on Apr 27, 2009 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not arguing that they are great offensively...their numbers are not impressive by any means. Just saying their offense has clicked at the right times and somehow put them in a position to win 12 out of 19 games.

Making the most of their baserunners…hitting to the gaps or bunting for singles….5 comeback wins….
They aren’t traditionally intimidating, but they are getting the job done. And in a way that should threaten our defense.

I like to spell my racial slurs correctly. Otherwise, I may come across as ignorant.

by homesickalien on Apr 27, 2009 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

nor are they intimidatingly traditional

now back to my hole!

BM: 'Oh, we've ruined millions of lives. They're just being babies about it." 8-Bit Theater

by Hazymania on Apr 28, 2009 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Write it up. Bump U-God.

Competition is good.

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Apr 28, 2009 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

huh.

I like to spell my racial slurs correctly. Otherwise, I may come across as ignorant.

by homesickalien on Apr 28, 2009 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

thank you

i was thinking about doing it, but figured it could look bad if i did it.

"2 years ago when I looked into my baseball magazine I saw the name Lars Anderson. I just thoguht, another draft pick that might not do anything. Also I though here might be the next Albert Pujols." -dasox313

by U-God on Apr 27, 2009 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

see? this is a public good. glad you're writing these. quick update:

Betancourt has remained the starting SS and is probably dragging down the defense. I wouldn’t trust a month’s worth of a team’s UZR, but between Beltre and the OF, that’s a good defensive team.

THIS STORY ONLY ENDS ONE WAY

by colintj on Apr 27, 2009 2:16 PM CDT reply actions  

i'm guessing that's backup quarterback disease more than anything

Cedeno’s career UZR at SS and wOBA are as bad or worse than anything Betancourt’s likely to put up.

THIS STORY ONLY ENDS ONE WAY

by colintj on Apr 27, 2009 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

That was the impression I got

More like they’ve been wronged by Betancourt teasing them with a solid UZR early on before getting out of shape and playing that position like a butcher and want a change.

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by UribeAuction on Apr 27, 2009 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

lineup: thome gets another day off.

White Sox

Lillibridge (2B)
Fields (3B)
Quentin (DH)
Dye (RF)
Konerko (1B)
Pierzynski ©
Anderson (CF)
Ramirez (SS)
Owens (LF)

Mariners

Suzuki (RF)
Chavez (LF)
Sweeney (DH)
Beltre (3B)
Branyan (1B)
Lopez (2B)
Johnson ©
Gutierrez (CF)
Betancourt (SS)

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by larry on Apr 27, 2009 2:44 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm glad to see that Pierzynski and Johnson have been copyrighted ;)

I get that stupid auto-correct error in Word and Excel all the time as well. Bastards.

You are right. But larry is actually a prick too.
- HSA 01/07/09

by rhythm on Apr 27, 2009 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why?

Is he hurt? This is the kind of guy he should absolutely not be out of the lineup for. So I suppose he’ll be back for Beddard. I don’t get it.

by dantesox on Apr 27, 2009 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

yes.

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by larry on Apr 27, 2009 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

it's excellent

1960s ’ Kitchen Sink ’ book, I love all that stuff, angry young working class men and all that

I believe the common character of the universe is not harmony, but chaos, hostility, and murder.

by hoodlight on Apr 27, 2009 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

An international loophole looms for the draft
A recent decision by a San Diego high school basketball player may have a lasting impact on the future of the international baseball free-agent market. This week, hoops phenom Jeremy Tyler, a high school junior, announced he would drop out of school in order to play pro basketball internationally. Several baseball agents with experience in the international market agree that it’s inevitable that an American-born baseball player will eventually exploit a similar opportunity by taking advantage of a loophole in Major League Baseball’s amateur signing system.

espn via mlbtr

how come boras hasn’t done it already?

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Apr 27, 2009 3:12 PM CDT reply actions  

A few reasons

Among them being baseball will address the international loophole soon I think. Even faster if a player tried this. The NFL and NBA’s crap on turning professional is un American as hell. High school kids do get their cash in hardball.

Basketball however, remains the best sport for this scenario, as the players skills and strength is probably the most ready. The leagues are more established in bball around the world.

"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."

by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."

by Tdogg on Apr 27, 2009 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah players Ive known who played overseas

all talk about the difficult adjustment culture wise. And these are grown ass men.

"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."

by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."

by Tdogg on Apr 27, 2009 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

i suppose baseball players could go to the netherlands or something. pretty sure that league is still going.

but there’s a difference between rome or athens or tel aviv, where you can play pro basketball (and a lot of people speak english, too, not to mention largely first world amenities) and playing baseball in mexico or the DR or something. you could put the millions of dollars as the carrot in front of the kid but i don’t know how many 17 year olds could actually handle it.

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by larry on Apr 27, 2009 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

And also

If a kid drops out of high school and blow out his arm overseas, his future is pretty much screwed.

It’s really like putting all your eggs in one basket and praying you don’t tear your labrum. With basketball, the risk of a career-threatening injury seems significantly lower.

Chicago White Sox Examiner — Your what hurts?

by UribeAuction on Apr 27, 2009 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

And I going to whoop that ass in our wagers this year.

"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."

by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."

by Tdogg on Apr 27, 2009 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

He did

wasn’t Drew the one who finished school early? I don’t think leaving the country will accomplish much. You graduated/matriculated/GEDuated in North America, you’re subject to the draft….

by The Cheat on Apr 27, 2009 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

which is why

it would be a high school junior who would do this…

and that was bonderman who got his GED “early”.

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by larry on Apr 27, 2009 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

the point is residency.

residents of the USA/US territories/puerto rico are subject to the draft. everyone else, for all intents and purposes, is not. theoretically, at least, you’d need to be out of the country for at least a year to establish residency somewhere else.

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by larry on Apr 27, 2009 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

forgot canada, too

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by larry on Apr 27, 2009 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Japan/Korea would be the best mix of modern comfort/competitive league

aside from the language/culture barrier, couldn’t one finish their HS equivalence somewhere over there?

THIS STORY ONLY ENDS ONE WAY

by colintj on Apr 27, 2009 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

i rather doubt the japanese are going to start poaching american high schoolers.

they’re the ones who complain about the gentleman’s agreement.

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by larry on Apr 27, 2009 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Quick comment on Colon/Contreras.

Right now, I’ve got a lot more confidence in Jose going forward. This bullshit the other night about Colon’s location is missing the point. With that velocity and the lack of vertical movement, not to mention throwing, like 95% fastballs, he doesn’t have much chance for sustained success. I didn’t think his location was that bad overall. Yeah, I know, Jose has to find that forker for the lefties, but I just think he has a better shot than Bart, though I’m not sayin’ I’m wildly optimistic.

by dantesox on Apr 27, 2009 4:35 PM CDT reply actions  

flagged.

lack of spelling errors and odd punctuation clearly means dantesox’ account has been hijacked.

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by larry on Apr 27, 2009 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think the true test will be where he replies.....

I like to spell my racial slurs correctly. Otherwise, I may come across as ignorant.

by homesickalien on Apr 27, 2009 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep. Definitely an outsourced dante.

I like to spell my racial slurs correctly. Otherwise, I may come across as ignorant.

by homesickalien on Apr 27, 2009 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

i can make a guess who's next

"2 years ago when I looked into my baseball magazine I saw the name Lars Anderson. I just thoguht, another draft pick that might not do anything. Also I though here might be the next Albert Pujols." -dasox313

by U-God on Apr 27, 2009 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hmmmmm.

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Apr 27, 2009 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

If they stay healthy both will be fine overall

That doesn’t mean you won’t see the occasional horrible start. Colon’s ground ball rate is up and line drive% is down. He just had a bad start.

"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."

by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."

by Tdogg on Apr 27, 2009 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

eras in the high 4s at season's end

It will jump around like crazy right now of course.

The FIPs right now are
Colon 4.28
Contreras 5.53

"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."

by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."

by Tdogg on Apr 27, 2009 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

I guess I'd take those ERA's....

as long as they’re comin’ with 25-30 starts and 150-175 innings or so.

by dantesox on Apr 27, 2009 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Be afraid, PPB.

We’re a pack of a-holes.
by rhythm on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT

by winningugly on Apr 27, 2009 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Back in Aurora...

I have 2 weeks left of this. But at least I get WCIU up here, its blacked out in Rockford.

"...and when it comes to baseball, we have two favorite clubs: the Go-Go White Sox...and whoever plays the Cubs!!!"

by 815Sox on Apr 27, 2009 5:15 PM CDT reply actions  

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